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[79.66.158.223]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z2sm1514830wrn.89.2021.10.10.17.26.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HarfBuzz, Electron 12, Chromium and Code - OSS (was: Rollback ports to before mate update) To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <8d97e51b-2fcb-c13a-8106-b92510681be3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 01:26:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D92B88FA5013AFEEE76BDBDD" Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSKN561qhz3Q4T X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="eSrphk6/"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[15]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.66.158.223:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.30)[0.297]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42a:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D92B88FA5013AFEEE76BDBDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 10/10/2021 23:19, Mario Lobo wrote: > Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from > 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium. Is that still an issue for you? devel/electron12 bug 257378 affecting many people was Closed FIXED last week, devel/electron12 bug 258997 affects _some_ people, may be unusually sparse. is certainly sparser than usual. editors/vscode bug 258607 remains open, … I should probably edit its title but don't have the head space at the moment. --------------D92B88FA5013AFEEE76BDBDD-- From nobody Mon Oct 11 00:37:56 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E33817FE405 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 00:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "xray.he.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSKdg137jz3hYR for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 00:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1633912676; bh=c37vv3ZwIvic2iB9lDVNdAVxl2TmHXUBczwl6SLB+VM=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Subject: Content-Language:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rVRFnzjss3hsmFH2PxABMuKfjYbJ/+8l1HxcQlIOdxSfdgIxvbHHQs4C0fKTiUgT3 ebehNcpFlaoWOj+1lgSL3AloarR/PzwKiRV4aCJXjK9Yhb5eT4stT1mjHlaWvLVBUi 1wemCPyiST7fwjGKV+g4FSLWPFINOs6h84Ydrmrz6pwUDmMVjGxgIWUvF1Tj9YCFZo yzcMBziYKZfsvpeI9fta/hQy6GXPhT0aqiIMyQgIxNXbln0Dqxly5JSFfmlWUElLKo rQrdst35Iw2CA2k3ULb5rEkfkjdAOsT2Gz/ndGSvUit+PYvDGbGpPbFexDkyPprQX7 whfqdrdj5GrcErDAW5XDSeOlkvJ8jnhcEoxZBmrEDcykOSdQIQFVQIgzuS2yPvRpn7 UxSeR0585r5Av1teDX96ud53czeuY3a3NCQV+kfh0DqgXGZyLRPCxEn1YLQ9LVbUWy D0WPioH8aHpwjY95h/BPbFf4DL91G7Sedm8WE04IWR954FGFHzMwofoSfHCo5vTBa0 cR/CWgAfCyv+GERUpJka3W6kQuP17dorKiI0p1dJ785vErWP7thOLNk1OK6P+4CB1H ewYoNCyqGzdIlHxgQ6O7nCATBG0WpU48bK4f5SHXI2bv1j6iezb9qchEjbWmpqQVAr L8mvV4GTWuHiYM0E001v0aAY= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:37:56 -0700 Message-ID: <9fd7c5b4-cf27-9940-f058-0762c4fc4a97@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:37:56 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? 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Carter wrote: > I use a single machine to keep host specific files git vc'd, One Git project per host, or one Git project for everything? > and then I just write scripts What scripting language(s)? > for tasks and rsync them over and execute them from the config box via ssh. So, the configuration of each host is determined by installation (e.g. full configuration) followed by a sequence of task scripts (e.g. differential configuration)? What if a script fails? Rollback? Idempotentcy? Do you record what scripts have run for each host, and the outcome? How do you determine the configuration of a host at some point in the past? What if you perform configuration tasks by hand? David From nobody Mon Oct 11 00:55:59 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4EC1800973 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 00:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSL2m73V1z3ktd for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 00:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id k7so50281334wrd.13 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:56:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WRkzCf8wt+YyXaAwxTxDsCj7sEjCTluenW9QHaU4C6s=; b=CV/Xd9ECaNwOe1375BZb+xXrYB6sImyZxULojw8ophjpdBEMmyctN5tXSH8PSw6zZW PcXcMPKjnZhxL6towJAGKyrP4OSJrPyX1PyVkMDADXRLJSl2hKKaN9bxoNwmSyHHXSW7 +tZbiRF4l4kxfBpGk5Ic4fkJfwN9BxxPTIkR++BcohKt2YczKzXeSXs9AUmvzaztzPN2 RsfoBUJcVjPsGuyfTloO097NiAUA83AFgHNDmqVzsq18NIE/MQ0dHRteBudiH156K/q1 zUXg+Dz+a8ATZEi4MIN+TunUlzv6OQFiSd2YtFD6Eg82ul6bcbFWBJiIJ2om4S3J3vf5 EPSQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WRkzCf8wt+YyXaAwxTxDsCj7sEjCTluenW9QHaU4C6s=; b=eHvbj1JBi5Mhr0w31NP7gQEOiFwHGgz9SlYV0xos4UrG3QUr4BmITmaHqQYpggqdgC Tl3pJMArCCeJhLBK0/cHAVJazPa8Y7CIe8oBJIKJPGeUnaP5jEfndLwK5SJPvU6Vzcox d/R4+CWL+YQwmhC/0fZEfDb9YvCUtKWwTlQS3H/G5NClnKgleE2EQr6dNTObL0mtptIl F5l2JJ0XvCs9yf6dHSMeAO4m/YB84yh7yh/us5eTXAGN6NEjLRJdpYhAHcEjW51IxQY8 LFJW/FfPlCL50u3ge2fmi9XLMTY6OafHVLl6zDgQ5TyBEwfzO195ctsDdd3dE6N3B35v lw4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530QtT9EIpmpTeCIcTXlsc5ei2eRrA9499NyvXHrFjdLoifqDa5n TIhc7NH+hCQclQPEOL0mPgmIyezKdgUC8HM632UNrzSY3KE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxHe4kMictunG5YZahPk6THMdM4o7du2OSi5841FVvJPZL8kMgcjUpkVsoyQNMAhQCDRLoQ3j/3112axIbFaOY= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cf29:: with SMTP id m9mr17830873wmg.64.1633913775939; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:56:15 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:55:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rollback ports to before mate update To: Mario Lobo Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003564a405ce093245" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSL2m73V1z3ktd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000003564a405ce093245 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 3:20 PM Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 19:15 Mario Lobo wrote: > >> >> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 17:23 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> >>> Mate was updated to 1.26 and it blew up on me. I have no usable desktop >>> and >>> want to rollback my git clone of ports to its state yesterday. I have the >>> commit hash fron yesterday morning, but I'm not sure how to get there. I >>> really hate to completely blow my ports tree. >>> >>> I'm guessing "git reset" might be what I'm looking for, but I'm far from >>> sure. Help! >>> >> >> I think you can accomplish that by going to /usr/ports and run: >> >> git checkout hash-of-the-commit >> >> > Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from > 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium. > Thanks! To avoid any risk of damage, I cloned a new copy into another directory and did the checkout. I'm back in business and will open an issue with the update to mate. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --0000000000003564a405ce093245-- From nobody Mon Oct 11 01:03:25 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABD71801E2A for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 01:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com (mail-il1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSLCC5gF8z3mbR for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 01:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id k3so7869581ilu.2 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2F8+ldfeIzcX7ue2qSIV2wVWHKHaBFW/eqW2oLb04qk=; b=YOyZPai5V4P3gpocBYd+Q0XtoZevAvrsqz4mQO/r6tqXcrOMxwYNlkIX5z4EtvHsQ8 NdsregkfxTU2VzLM5jcewhBdhl1kalbBISeoQUQbMqQPeCrhHFLgzdtC+Jp//ynXtKkI XdkeWUUHKcpSAzOVdKTofMKcSIjmftz9G8SeE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2F8+ldfeIzcX7ue2qSIV2wVWHKHaBFW/eqW2oLb04qk=; b=AXkxUww8M01OFevgK/k4pPzORfohKY3EIHGfN5IuQK6w84AOYkiT5naCfYAZDjvel5 eEonOu0cYVBytJKDjWEubOyQXXjwkemMJ6M2nZmW9PAMWw8NJCME/D5lAN1HD9Q9Nmsx ThfbMwRP5PRE7CPVyYa7gOwbtOmqZeRsNJ5b0BkoRO4PGzbTmqVcZJ9/GAU49aX4JJJE EPJStSuxV0lIYun5/O8rvps0lwxGu2hHqAduLHKoyQdCP83t43AE1ap2v+aTtSM1CPXP 4XK8FnZyEogZC2Pj9DfnD9CvagBdhlYx9NsNy+oB3xk8okSbnd+VOrp09MLSpLxnt/H8 wzoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531qzeXXbehTMqekmLm2BBmsrVVJ4XdgV6FFPBEIoy8QBd3vg1AA eLiakU3YYkC0fcfjCqAGODHBccXzVQLfnDeBwmkcFMZggW8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyi99qKzBeWrnaklAQxRejr2QpE9Wv2PedLI0Xlxo+RqJen18FdHz2B8fGO3gA6qSQjF90I6v+F4s2oQFub/oA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:1ca5:: with SMTP id x5mr7309203ill.60.1633914214681; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:03:34 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8d97e51b-2fcb-c13a-8106-b92510681be3@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8d97e51b-2fcb-c13a-8106-b92510681be3@gmail.com> From: Mario Lobo Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:03:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HarfBuzz, Electron 12, Chromium and Code - OSS (was: Rollback ports to before mate update) To: Graham Perrin Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005c253e05ce094c07" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSLCC5gF8z3mbR X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000005c253e05ce094c07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 21:26 Graham Perrin wrote: > On 10/10/2021 23:19, Mario Lobo wrote: > > Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from > > 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium. > > Is that still an issue for you? > > devel/electron12 bug 257378 affecting many people was Closed FIXED last > week, > > > devel/electron12 bug 258997 affects _some_ people, > > > may be unusually > sparse. > > is certainly > sparser than usual. editors/vscode bug 258607 remains open, > =E2=80=A6 I = should > probably edit its title but don't have the head space at the moment. > Well, yes. Because: 1) I can`t compile chromium 92.x because of vulnerabilities 2) Updating firefox updated harfbuzz to 3.0.0 3) I needed my compiled old chromium to come back alive. > --0000000000005c253e05ce094c07-- From nobody Mon Oct 11 01:04:25 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEAA180280B for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 01:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe33.google.com (mail-vs1-xe33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSLDJ3nXbz3mxQ for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 01:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe33.google.com with SMTP id w13so17188766vsa.2 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:04:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=+Pnx5Yf4J0j4q2TPrRpmZjWXGLl9BZxYe12nVAo+iV0=; b=STZxhD9uOt4qAW1GG2uCHMA/ZaWzbMVI+il3SjjfpfsLzv0wqPvY+YQqn1d6oMRh8D RDO/HHH8VcuFMFdqeV2lHZCBKUK5kxWbVeHiWUeQrflwyAo3UYrPpj/zTqm4x6o7qlzW blVSob15rI8oWL4jAL596zhTj9+3MqsjFnrMwIAUioRI3OsJn2wErRSgo3zmIL9Jv4MC uXg5QFtws/N2zZLO0EfHgjLXjHnSqYoCSp7daun9X8+FZHE/FoCcMfmk6W5BwECZLrzN GiDKIHyDjmqo4VfV8kcHhhsnYgTWw5616hREsKiI3Pegwk6WFU5WGCFBDqnpzdXjKSG1 BDzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=+Pnx5Yf4J0j4q2TPrRpmZjWXGLl9BZxYe12nVAo+iV0=; b=LXXOsFHgIEa4HBPIhercBR8/wdvJF1eU2OmHrzAcbGDVR80nbwn/quE8Ca1Wwd6qP/ uTXB2wNIE0FyP3qO944hpk9aUQ+K7ddUtFxwn0mMGdT/Q9626sFul8Go7ZyJnf++ARSZ N58c9q/+TIiO4v/fBHKTkxSnd9BXipGD4ARBaJqNO+2qfNXVr+j+tfF9oD1xXnC7P5Mx xnUBA2C3xalnpkXv8g2VJGz4WoZpFuelD0YWNyfFpSuarauYvRAst/rxU0swQkJHXL1O F1/u/jZrzdQBQa95E16HX34jr8TPeGIZhefrY74pr9U4cGZCPolU0oWd2InvcUJx+wbj sFtg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532APlSwX+Q0vBmZlcMO0Svlkk9DOT3HG1YmYNWjT6LY/ctciK3q qdp5VG1UtbPGQd13p8OfvJCEwRDmHFfbzQY4t5T8m7cbpcIJE4XQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz1uqfFAGaP/EEZt4V8PCH26+r+veMQ9fLrw4vkTHZJGWpD2jKP4w4fqu7rH1QA1m8rDllQQY+PBuuSydxUIIA= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f48c:: with SMTP id o12mr21193075vsn.22.1633914265628; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:04:25 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a59:938c:0:b0:236:ed6d:8851 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Oct 2021 18:04:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ily41uju.wl-herbert@gojira.at> References: <87ily41uju.wl-herbert@gojira.at> From: grarpamp Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mailing list To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSLDJ3nXbz3mxQ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=STZxhD9u; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grarpamp@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grarpamp@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::e33:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > Where are the archives? As before, the entire FreeBSD mail archive is available for you to download and import into your favorite mail client. That way you can search for whatever you may be interested in, and can also use your reply button so that you maintain proper mail threading headers and subjects, that helps others find your posts on it in the future. rsync -nHaxi bit0.us-west.freebsd.org::FreeBSD-mailarchive/ > But yes, someone should update the handbook. If you like volunteer to contribute to docs, ask freebsd-docs@ to set you up, then can make sure this archive service is listed in the handbook in the email list section too. 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Content-Language: en-US To: David Christensen References: <31ee138b-243f-ad88-aa46-9cbf5204aa03@pinyon.org> <9fd7c5b4-cf27-9940-f058-0762c4fc4a97@holgerdanske.com> From: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9fd7c5b4-cf27-9940-f058-0762c4fc4a97@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.43 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSPLf4F1cz4T2n X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi David, On 10/10/21 17:37, David Christensen wrote: > On 10/10/21 15:26, Russell L. Carter wrote: >> I use a single machine to keep host specific files git vc'd, > > > One Git project per host, or one Git project for everything? I don't think it matters, does it? I just use one for now. I make a flat set of OS dirs, then underneath each of those the OS specific hostnames. That way I can share common OS assumptions, included in the lower sh(1) scripts. > >> and then I just write scripts > > > What scripting language(s)? sh(1) > >> for tasks and rsync them over and execute them from the config box via >> ssh. > > So, the configuration of each host is determined by installation (e.g. > full configuration) followed by a sequence of task scripts (e.g. > differential configuration)? Yes, this is basically what something like salt does under the hood. So things like postfix/dovecot or postgresql or yadifa/unbound are going to need a bunch of post install actions. You can write them in the CMS DSL or you can write them in whatever you like. I detest sh(1) for anything complex, but realized that simple sh(1) is just fine for almost everything in configuration space. > > What if a script fails? Fail stop. A failure needs a postmortem, and then a response. Best to halt on first failure. > > Rollback? I thought this might be important when I was starting out but for my non-mission-critical stance, I rely on fail stop. I ought to state explicitly that watching py-salt fail, made me realize that rollback only works if you have the resources to do 2-phase deployment. You've got to vet that the deployment will (should?) succeed in a test environment first. Could be live, but it's still a test environment. I should also add that rollback is part of an audited infrastructure, and no, the overhead of that is something that I am not going to worry about as the sole person responsible for my infrastructure. Add significant money and of course it is required. > > > Idempotentcy? Cattle, not pets? Yeah, I do care about this. Things like sysrc(8) are helpful here, but I still don't have a good password file management story. Basically I bring a big hammer to the job if it looks complex: if things fail, stop. Triage and then fix the script(s), and then restart from the beginning. > > Do you record what scripts have run for each host, and the outcome? I should; when I have been paid to make things succeed, I always did. But for my personal systems, nope, fail stop, then triage. Never had a reason to regret that. I did regret all the time on py-salt, before I rebuilt using the lessons it taught me. > > How do you determine the configuration of a host at some point in the past? That's what the git repo is for. > > What if you perform configuration tasks by hand? I think this is a great idea when you're just starting out, or you are deploying a new software configuration, etc. Automate what you already understand. Great questions! 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Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <31ee138b-243f-ad88-aa46-9cbf5204aa03@pinyon.org> <9fd7c5b4-cf27-9940-f058-0762c4fc4a97@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSRDW6rJtz4bWf X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b="o/HCzZS7"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:november.he.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/10/21 20:25, Russell L. 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The entire configuration repository is in gitlab, and salt distributes it from there. 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Since I've choosen Salt too (after trying Ansible and ditching it) and I'm (slowly) starting with it, can I ask which documentation you used or would reccomend? I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g. providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big picture). bye & Thanks av. 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From nobody Mon Oct 11 11:47:12 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B055180D618 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x72e.google.com (mail-qk1-x72e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HScVd5K0Dz4WT7 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x72e.google.com with SMTP id 77so14959929qkh.6 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 04:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=X7lMDl3WM+0F7DZ4pWE5bWMBsr7lBSkRBd/8fNHNy/U=; b=mfe+1ZMy7d6xB9RP4kXC22Bhp9ucBL0YiJo/AgzOwmseEvsX6M5VpCgIZgv4gAui3/ ueJsYuVIxV9NEkQzFewTfzoJW+ud0mPbKbGjSP1FbQg9Eo6n4ArFNd8PHeyrTdY9u27a M0AHRxhRmTinrh0FmuPTY0+1eYvQubicfZT/DTm1S8rMkBTX90ScTMadgEbjQSqEUAKY Cs2gKGuDUCvqAegT0nuWrvmrjoBPjSLQrIpHdshwpNyBwufXH/hZJnv9WlT6874b8E0a wK5epCcs5cRIB5uTMbTL2pM+CGBchqlnyzOzwfeYW1IcQQnWDYoKBiwdfWP7K21BbFjl Or+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=X7lMDl3WM+0F7DZ4pWE5bWMBsr7lBSkRBd/8fNHNy/U=; b=gCHNBer81XLpWCRWuRVDGj2VXn1B8XuBNdHjhoNfIo+Tf08Igb8bDWXpKHDKqenBsT WU/ORxbqrwEEObrThNc0mHd3bNeJhFUiKu8NhXXXnujcmrV5joLOdY+AB/iwkN2bzjvU KZMEvoAbdXTQYcyauo6yA4dxxSCHUYplKFBBoFz607Grp7pe6nXV+8p5yZs6XC87eA8C PoBlOh9gavYhv48tWumR/J6kE1qa8NM7S06pLfH6KWcJEkf7fe6degPJs82WImiFftgj R6KD2QmnEQ5XVrGThk1mPEKN2/ZuZrBSY17Y3+u3USO8ggQBKKy72VBmsQwG6iPqGwM7 APDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532LA9/zOCImAj+oDBn4orQrzcfCEcll8djQ4b+oGyjrID4KSmUL QgNKup2066tixzmQh1DWKuUhQa7R7Qzya06JmDTv1qAm9/JbPw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwmxYlGI/QmeLp0Y1CMl/lQIIJpFCMe2uIQa0KnGhQgeCKNRP7MCbMS0InT9b6aiqvCEs4c8C2jqk+vDMaXuX8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:532:: with SMTP id h18mr6486078qkh.132.1633952872523; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 04:47:52 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:47:12 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: [Bug 255979] fsck bad inode number 2 (256) to nextinode To: questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008beb1705ce124c55" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HScVd5K0Dz4WT7 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=mfe+1ZMy; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of odhiambo@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=odhiambo@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.980]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.28)[0.285]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000008beb1705ce124c55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, The suggestion below has sent shivers down my spine. I generally decided against running -STABLE version of FreeBSD because it involved compiling userland and kernel. >From the response below from a bugzilla issue: 1. You have updated to the original 13.0 release which does indeed have the problem that you note. 2. You need to update to the stable/13 release which has the fix in it. (a) You can either check out the stable/13 branch from git and build it yourself (b) Or you can download the latest snapshot of stable/13 from https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/13.0-STABLE/amd64/Latest It seems that this is taking me back to the days of buildworld/kernel, installworld/install kernel, no?? Or did I just misunderstand the recommendation? And what it entails?? ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Date: Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:57 PM Subject: [Bug 255979] fsck bad inode number 2 (256) to nextinode To: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255979 --- Comment #15 from Kirk McKusick --- (In reply to odhiambo@gmail.com from comment #14) You have updated to the original 13.0 release which does indeed have the problem that you note. You need to update to the stable/13 release which has the fix in it. You can either check out the stable/13 branch from git and build it yourself. Or you can download the latest snapshot of stable/13 from https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/13.0-STABLE/amd64/Latest -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' :-) --0000000000008beb1705ce124c55-- From nobody Mon Oct 11 12:30:35 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C18C13433F3 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSdS03jjLz4cZY for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.107] (helo=smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mZuRz-0005kp-DM for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:30:39 +0200 Received: from smtp.boosten.org ([84.25.247.31]) by smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with ESMTP id ZuRymP65zAZvPZuRzm7I5R; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:30:39 +0200 X-Env-Mailfrom: freebsd@boosten.org X-Env-Rcptto: questions@freebsd.org X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=HImgqqhv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=61642e6f cx=a_exe a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:117 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8gfv0ekSlNoA:10 a=YjiD98OGAAAA:8 a=xU7MZGYv1Ot6KqZZyt8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=N9aKFZEN-faBtzwTh5B5:22 Received: from mailserver.boosten.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B844D27D82 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:30:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at boosten.org Received: from [192.168.13.209] (guest-209.boosten.org [192.168.13.209]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F77E27D35 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 14:30:34 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.boosten.org 3F77E27D35 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=boosten.org; s=myselector; t=1633955434; bh=/DWrkpv2hHaPDqgUkmHbF8dIoqsYgkLU1es5lo3A/mE=; h=From:Subject:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=MYhAWCXWKvHg3gUIeGmrCb5D86qJJa0zUB1JuLW/H+6vaCicBIDiM44UFtdANGdsD Rg5CaNlxood+nJHhaqU2EYPvIc7x97G3bx6czS4Imtlcxs8QiW/2E5NaAzcwO/R2qY p92kf42eGHQEUWpeHo7HRg+U624Vi2aSovPIlefkKHV6rY8MbDXqnEwLgiSSv0RLzg TdeRaoqgXre7Gik8L1xxlu4MwmP21Uz4AOQ77QTa2Xg5DQpSgtsy8Dgqq78+171EGj VSciV35TRuotFPxiW7qdDi6Ca4FdN2mrROFqAOB1Wq9ogpG0+S7ipAKf8XeDHq3pA9 90KVapeI4DoEQ== Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? 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Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:01:33 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:00:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Intel 7265 Bluetooth VID=0x8087 PID=0x0a2a ng_ubt / firmware problem To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSmnp5HLhz3C6H X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=YOgi5CFW; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::329) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::329:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello world :-) I have problem running Intel Bluetooth adapter that seems to be a part of Intel WiFi AC7265 card (wifi works fine). This VID/PID seems to be already inside ng_ubt module. I have tried iwmbt-firmware with iwmbtfw utility but no success. Running 13.0-STABLE. # uname -a FreeBSD 0xCFMX4 13.0-STABLE FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE #1 stable/13-n247289-13b194766e2: Wed Sep 15 02:49:53 CEST 2021 root@0xCFMX4:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 # hccontrol -n ubt0hci inquiry hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes # hccontrol inquiry hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes # usbconfig (...) ugen0.6: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA) # grep -ri 0x0a2a /usr/src/* (...) sys/netgraph/bluetooth/drivers/ubt/ng_ubt_intel.c: { USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_INTEL2, 0x0a2a, UBT_INTEL_DEVICE_7260) }, # iwmbtfw -D -d ugen0.6 main: opening dev 0.6 iwmbtfw: main: device not found iwmbtfw: main: Firmware download failed! I even tried providing every single firmware file in a scripted loop but none matches. 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To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSnyT192xz3lml X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202108 header.b="b3nJD/IY"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202108]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.60)[-0.598]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/11/21 14:30, Peter Boosten via questions wrote: >> I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I >> always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g. >> providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big >> picture). Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage jails? Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing specific jail commands to base? bye & Thanks av. 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To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> From: Matthias Fechner Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 21:43:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Server: anny.lostinspace.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSq3d3wsFz4ZQ4 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=fechner.net header.s=default header.b=KNEDLfnB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=fechner.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of idefix@fechner.net designates 195.30.95.33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=idefix@fechner.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.09 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[fechner.net:s=default]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[156.67.130.210:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[fechner.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[fechner.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[fechner.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5539, ipnet:195.30.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[195.30.95.33:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Am 11.10.2021 um 20:54 schrieb Andrea Venturoli: > Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage > jails? > Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a > way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing > specific jail commands to base? I also just started to read the manual, but it seems that jail support is existing: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=011515552685726825874:ht0p8miksrm&q=jail I'm not sure if maybe CBSD is a better to to manage your jails and VMs and then maybe use salt to do the rest. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook From nobody Mon Oct 11 20:29:06 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595AA180D006 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com (mail-ot1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HSr4H2bn5z4n4b for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id u20-20020a9d7214000000b0054e170300adso23092408otj.13 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:29:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=soQr+WFwMQ7cve1r8PG+dO3LhHy9L4g3zxk8REwlf10=; b=S9U3CGZ8mdrxE3+Kro7Avk6Guvdq5tBMLXa7OLt9j6B5y8E6svXQFVhZs/aX/g2IGu wDmeFCYARUcki3YnGtMS/LhHRKfRIbrDUUl2uPwns0gvknJPjnux2m65yeOSN9ND7Rg6 X14sOTGRlpFUkY4X1cPl0h9QsaYgt2ZkFG17eWImypcuUEBKL6DBaKTZDaU6IPuraYoV m8IXydLmAuMQbvWq+9M/nWkEfYUCi5SyBirowsoUMKQC+Vcx7NGYex1i7Xu0nXH4FVwF v7WZxRuDHlGAeaQAJtjvMT9KEFSQ3A//rW4z7kFTGp3TJ1WwDy2VMXflt44wM58I5djl X0og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=soQr+WFwMQ7cve1r8PG+dO3LhHy9L4g3zxk8REwlf10=; b=Th7YcSjLOpUG9QhLrRtS3jh3+nHpj/Ga4tmrBZYvnhdtkrGIEGNqHGb11sNhFpQi9O gvCsN17TZF9sonSXfD0WkjsMkcaDHVBagTnRiyBOzelTRkZZ/RmpnGP+tFtDOCY/EbBG 2fpHQm4XIKEFCini2OkVUSIecL9WNYzBVnhPII+KKf4Qv4YI9Dgpst/TpjA4l9KhGXYa w5XhmkO70p57dtqF57GQpMqYffyaDnslcXzpBmZeR8kPP8ON5q/s1PSbW5OujeKyXBuD CC7BqwkMUTypxbIAdvB2yhtL+oHdm7yMcmrxggs7B8YHPohLbHbOHg1dFNbm9emxMbfy 6QGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530UTJt9hr45h00uIIbNNhjm/C389WU6LqVx+OzAx5NaK8k0nJmf wLt/ff2PW+2/OlWrKJMTG40Gti+rSCwfdxX5xyKTVNy6n6UHUw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz/3ve0qO8gH7TVJCbhFhSk8q8CkPOFO7bwVy4VfBG9ka9wov88+bH8K2Q93IxG6UmN8XHE0OR1LnTTITLfZ9Q= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:ee6:: with SMTP id 93mr1767032otj.340.1633984158247; Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:29:18 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 22:29:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Intel 7265 Bluetooth VID=0x8087 PID=0x0a2a ng_ubt / firmware problem To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org Cc: wulf@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HSr4H2bn5z4n4b X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=S9U3CGZ8; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::336) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.965]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.958]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::336:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:00 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > Hello world :-) > > I have problem running Intel Bluetooth adapter that seems to be a part > of Intel WiFi AC7265 card (wifi works fine). This VID/PID seems to be > already inside ng_ubt module. > > I have tried iwmbt-firmware with iwmbtfw utility but no success. > Running 13.0-STABLE. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD 0xCFMX4 13.0-STABLE FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE #1 > stable/13-n247289-13b194766e2: Wed Sep 15 02:49:53 CEST 2021 > root@0xCFMX4:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > # hccontrol -n ubt0hci inquiry > hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes > # hccontrol inquiry > hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes > > # usbconfig > (...) > ugen0.6: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA) > > # grep -ri 0x0a2a /usr/src/* > (...) > sys/netgraph/bluetooth/drivers/ubt/ng_ubt_intel.c: { > USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_INTEL2, 0x0a2a, UBT_INTEL_DEVICE_7260) }, > > # iwmbtfw -D -d ugen0.6 > main: opening dev 0.6 > iwmbtfw: main: device not found > iwmbtfw: main: Firmware download failed! > > I even tried providing every single firmware file in a scripted loop > but none matches. > > Did anyone run this interface with success on FreeBSD? :-) > > Any hints appreciated :-) > Tomek Allright, the new version of iwmbtfw from git supports 72XX BT interfaces and the firmware directory needs to be specified: iwmbtfw -D -d ugen0.3 -f /usr/local/share/iwmbt-firmware/ Also the /etc/devd/iwmbtfw.conf needs a tiny update so it also flashes firmware to PID=0x0a2a automaticaly with devd: match "product" "(0x0a2a|0x0a2b|0x0aaa|0x0025|0x0026|0x0029)"; Thank you for this stuff ! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From nobody Tue Oct 12 05:37:04 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EEC12D86BC for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 05:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HT4Dq2TQkz3rdG for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 05:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.42.106] (helo=smtp2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq6.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1maATa-0006gl-9A for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:37:22 +0200 Received: from smtp.boosten.org ([84.25.247.31]) by smtp2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with ESMTP id aATZmB5jNAfFsaATZmGFsF; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:37:22 +0200 X-Env-Mailfrom: freebsd@boosten.org X-Env-Rcptto: questions@freebsd.org X-SourceIP: 84.25.247.31 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=QrM9YX+d c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=61651f12 cx=a_exe a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:117 a=JWBJsaPp29SgP5DpYRBqZw==:17 a=8gfv0ekSlNoA:10 a=sEmZ3uXO_Ra9tTXgppQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=EJKyB-E2WMwiv3-y:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Received: from mailserver.boosten.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BD629AD7; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:37:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at boosten.org Received: from smtpclient.apple (amon.boosten.org [192.168.13.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.boosten.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC62729A67; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:37:06 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 smtp.boosten.org BC62729A67 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=boosten.org; s=myselector; t=1634017026; bh=dfT13lMWH2UFdpzXyEI+9gtzNmE6dZkwtGgzuIGs1Ag=; h=From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:References:From; b=dRQIqrewODgmKeqsvMY7A4hTqPH8dPppjqsMGL3A0SqimDB70G08ePvMcT7kJjNZS vdG039snAXsGkxxeMpaBt2BOcUoXRvoNm1Dhx1/WsAc71G1ZmwucIvL8w7OAVtJ5Jq 3+dqXUQARSWc5wPhjG18d4x0Rl65/Qc1wAHeZ8688yhDPBj6R/q9ckrKRD1DO2J1E2 xl9cPLYKSx0TpF8t5lWY6eEHPdG1FvpAyQWVGk7q9o4k5JfzapvRWTY4KpMk23lpqm dkUTSTd9VxzjtespjidE56rYeTMdDDMHqsahOpI1AxCbRDZtbSaZAKTsPFKJIYcrZa b9u6oMzVS4o7w== Message-Id: <35ADF5FE-E05D-428B-AD96-D8D231067C29@boosten.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B83E0CDC-6D6E-4381-A53A-AD9D02D113A1" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:37:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Andrea Venturoli To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfHwxg9+kxU2sc+EzA24MA4Ekh3tVJfO0SDtTxIFDJHybO/RWHHvIlmzTxnohyF/g1zn8P1URc42GDG9vJzHN/zt3RSY37z7AQ/S3mTEKCFxoNe34n+y6 jng14zxkc7tOPrszlgjTzfFTOX+UIgtyiaaBZgvIT5aoPBqh98Mr/8DYWyCTF3nAP6YaWlafe2QEVTFsM9ocMUQYsj5lAhofua4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HT4Dq2TQkz3rdG X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Reply-To: freebsd@boosten.org From: via questions X-Original-From: X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --Apple-Mail=_B83E0CDC-6D6E-4381-A53A-AD9D02D113A1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Op 11 okt. 2021, om 20:54 heeft Andrea Venturoli het = volgende geschreven: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage = jails? > Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a = way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing = specific jail commands to base? >=20 > bye & Thanks > av. >=20 I actually did install minions in every jail (17!). For me the choice = was easy: either perform a =E2=80=98pkg -j upgrade=E2=80=99 17 = times, or =E2=80=9Csalt =E2=80=98*=E2=80=99 pkg.upgrade=E2=80=9D once = (yeah, I=E2=80=99m lazy :) ). The latter command also updates the linux = boxes and the raspberry pi=E2=80=99s. And this is only one of the advantages. I have several directories = getting updates from git, and performing a =E2=80=9Chighstate=E2=80=9D = will automatically update those directories. 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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:44:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Matthias Fechner To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfDKmNGZN87S69nzlRzZYW+nrhqyWj1A8hFF65ePXSyUR0BlXWqhSexO7nOA96G+0LQ9bcrwjG4zRVrqNkco5n10GAAu9QsFrr1c0ywnHd7+aadrsKUcf EV0UhLU/z9D6H75zeMVPLNKU5wRW+2nvOFgmxXYFGP7mgiUbjJ8XSCWICXqGpnNrrnFDh2G03R8RVg4HCji4VtoJ9+Ig+ddiyCLEu8IgiafJA+Jgj/sN3gCk X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HT4Nq38lgz3vZj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Reply-To: freebsd@boosten.org From: via questions X-Original-From: X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --Apple-Mail=_C16704D8-5E2D-444C-BEF9-CDE61093A536 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Op 11 okt. 2021, om 21:43 heeft Matthias Fechner = het volgende geschreven: >=20 > Am 11.10.2021 um 20:54 schrieb Andrea Venturoli: >> Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you = manage jails? >> Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find = a way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing = specific jail commands to base?=20 >=20 > I also just started to read the manual, but it seems that jail support = is existing: > https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=3D011515552685726825874:ht0p8miksrm&q=3Dja= il >=20 That=E2=80=99s a different kind of jail-commands Andrea is probably = referring to: these are used to manage the jail configuration on the = jail-host, while Andrea was talking about configuration _in_ the jail. = However, I didn=E2=80=99t know of this module before, so thanks. The = modular approach however is very useful: so do I use the docker module = to create/maintain containers which will restart automatically when the = configuration changes. The yaml files make creating containers quite = fun. > I'm not sure if maybe CBSD is a better to to manage your jails and VMs = and then maybe use salt to do the rest. Never heard of CBSD, but this looks to me like another jail manager, = like ezjail. 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Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd@boosten.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <35ADF5FE-E05D-428B-AD96-D8D231067C29@boosten.org> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <35ADF5FE-E05D-428B-AD96-D8D231067C29@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HT4gS0xvHz4Txl X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/12/21 07:37, freebsd@boosten.org wrote: > I actually did install minions in every jail (17!). <:-O > But of course you pay the price in used memory and CPU cycles. ... and disk space, etc... Really, I tried this and I'm not going back to it :( bye & Thanks av. 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MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[web.de:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --Signature=_Tue__12_Oct_2021_08_04_54_+0200_Yn37L0Z.IHnl5A/w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,=20 I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance to route the traffic over the vpn Network? My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts=20 file but it will not work. Is there a chance to make it with pf? 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Is there a chance > to route the traffic over the vpn Network? >=20 > My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with = hosts=20 > file but it will not work. >=20 > Is there a chance to make it with pf? >=20 Is this inbound or outbound? For outbound, you just could deliver your outgoing mail to the = mailserver of your ISP (smarthost). Inbound is a bit more difficult: I solved that once by having a service = on the internet relaying inbound mail through their servers to port 2525 = of my server (which wasn=E2=80=99t blocked by ISP).=20 Peter =E2=80=94 It never hurts to help=20 - Eek the Cat! --Apple-Mail=_7FE00FB9-8CE2-4750-B338-22FDDDF8DB05-- From nobody Tue Oct 12 09:48:06 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C7F12DB678 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 09:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se) Received: from mailgate.leissner.se (mailgate.leissner.se [IPv6:2a02:920:3035::210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leissner.se", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HT9p904PYz4SDv for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 09:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se) Received: from mailgate.leissner.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.leissner.se (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 19C9m79R086273 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:48:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mailgate.leissner.se (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 19C9m76a086272 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:48:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se) Received: from pol.leissner.se(192.71.29.17), claiming to be "pol-server.leissner.se" via SMTP by mailgate.leissner.se, id smtpdjHHRaj; Tue Oct 12 11:48:06 2021 Received: from pol-server.leissner.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pol-server.leissner.se (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 19C9m6rM028686 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:48:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se) Received: (from pol@localhost) by pol-server.leissner.se (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 19C9m6kY028685 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:48:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se) X-Authentication-Warning: pol-server.leissner.se: pol set sender to list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se using -f Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:48:06 +0200 From: list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is there a way to get direct execution of java jar files in FreeBSD? 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It seems I need to do this with the command java -jar xxx.jar, since I can't find a way to get direct execution of jar files. The java -jar method works fine, but the problem is that xxx.jar needs to know the IP address of the connecting client, and it should get that via the function System.inheritedChannel(), but it doesn't. Could it be that the java -jar start method in inetd doesn't transfer the client socket to xxx.jar? Anyway, that's why I wonder if there is a way to start xxx.jar without java -jar. Thanks! Peter From nobody Tue Oct 12 10:35:53 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F47D17F2894 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa33.google.com (mail-vk1-xa33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTBsv2bDbz4gb2 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-xa33.google.com with SMTP id bb12so7146857vkb.5 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 03:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OaFRoHTa6ugcCm2FnZ96U7vU1JjpiXU4LmPdJ4MVDQM=; b=OErDxMQqkHIz2skDydqrI5CfU7HrO9V0vyjd8zyp0qABfLG+d7zcVZh1pTV14dt05I IlYCN4cdP4urOF7OMn0Wj8BEQf+i5g1DMu+Us+RLXvFe0ySSEYa8q8szkpkPDFbzdKct xL0ZeUh9HcV0td2+T0xdsfoquLbWmZGhvDe8ApqoC2ytb9sCFAKnIjaNnYcmn6ttflfB DqJ6nZccMWsEf93Z6Nqz07ySJLTQXQzjGIuF8iUGzyDc3YRdchTz9vrw5Syik4h0IBIG zsxl+9BYKvGr7YmJvwr5ogNhUv4CD5CHPKpt8JyPK49mi+yZEVTJ2DVaZvo1tGnhkuYs YftQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OaFRoHTa6ugcCm2FnZ96U7vU1JjpiXU4LmPdJ4MVDQM=; b=gw47W+ymA0WEgTRPEzwQb2dYXeYEWVVF4VO0sPHNQd3OxcPUQH23RSpzcA0L2Zbs8N OPSilOqspC8srZGS6ZTmjpoynONww2ZG3Q6v9GqEXE5uqjVhhlUpDPSOBL3TfNjhyvzd kuwai9onxmruNvHZTlrIEgh2MyKRgFkrAxVssuhSOZzS0ahZWN+TfsBwbpmvmpC/x57l Qgq+/BxbMsLl58gT8fmdEHBaXUTH6YLN+Ru+KN7kJmrgNLmvFGTBhtw3ozYUa1tmfl3C xcI1KI8SkXJ2bZKLlKwztugkX5k50SH3+hfCBJI/58dySlgGGSi+H7qPRFAIxgbAme1g pfUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531GCW5uOMWAR6Q+wgTu/85oxZ9xwt91ZtWyzp00h3cbJG57dZ83 RSx7ea1v1K/6KJdprEc9/ltnq0tzAgbGopxZvExt9DBnIKg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwLmwcGeaC6SaGvjs3kYnFBJDo0r6RBiLSHSxIp5jn3ou/1xErw+kZQczqx92/0ZemVLZ8BkYTg5RXXtiJn+EA= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:b417:: with SMTP id d23mr25192937vkf.8.1634034989647; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 03:36:29 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 13:35:53 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is there a way to get direct execution of java jar files in FreeBSD? To: list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001bc87f05ce256b31" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTBsv2bDbz4gb2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000001bc87f05ce256b31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Please see the following page : https://apropos-logic.com/books/wci/ Writing Compilers and Interpreters (3rd edition): A Software Engineering Approach In that page , the following parts : Download Compile Run with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javac javac Perhaps , the information in these pages may be useful for you to design your solution . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:49 PM wrote: > I want to start a java jar file from inetd in FreeBSD 12. > > It seems I need to do this with the command java -jar xxx.jar, > since I can't find a way to get direct execution of jar files. > > The java -jar method works fine, but the problem is that xxx.jar > needs to know the IP address of the connecting client, and it should > get that via the function System.inheritedChannel(), but it doesn't. > > Could it be that the java -jar start method in inetd doesn't transfer > the client socket to xxx.jar? > > Anyway, that's why I wonder if there is a way to start xxx.jar without > java -jar. > > Thanks! > > Peter > > --0000000000001bc87f05ce256b31-- From nobody Tue Oct 12 14:45:04 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFAD17FEE49 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTJNp6xxYz3C8g for ; 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Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:45:04 +0100 From: tech-lists To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Traffic Message-ID: References: <20211012080454.f14bb36b1d92b67aaf7e1c78@web.de> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/AbkRccFZ3LuRhj4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211012080454.f14bb36b1d92b67aaf7e1c78@web.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTJNp6xxYz3C8g X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=dShlGfM4; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=M7Ps6QYe; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net has no SPF policy when checking 66.111.4.28) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.45 / 15.00]; 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Is there a chance >to route the traffic over the vpn Network? > >My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts >file but it will not work. > >Is there a chance to make it with pf? I don't think you can vpn it unless you're in charge of the real external vpn ip, and it's a static ip. If it's to receive periodic(8) email from the vm then set up a mail server= =20 as usual and configure it to relay local email on port 587 to a smarthost,= =20 or use something like dma(8) to accomplish the same thing. Then read the email on whatever address you've aliased for root's email. Alternatively, configure local delivery and read email on the vm=20 with something like mutt. --=20 J. --/AbkRccFZ3LuRhj4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFln2cACgkQs8o7QhFz NAVANg//StkCoT95PvkxTqgUqzpSFFA/L6QqxaGM9rD7EroE2DNDAr32i+9KwVkL VTYibyZSUdfAwfAThu+7StylshaBlbcmfP+YuUsaDu7WguXbm4wrnjQSvXdCxfRq H51DkRDldDPhuZG6b02vjNLKgcL1OFFO9SgVf2WQ4v8J91rHb4y4lKGZxGWlluFw WQbK52L9sLuyBrYfOVlwuvj4SmwAx7axWTjxK83HnCyAaRtqvdidoxKDFezvnb9q TLBxOfjh56Bj3WKqWJnVU3W5l1FLNvQr3kmG72X6jJgNiVusQa+i8xp2cEvIn7lU LMn1D8FSpYFt6GqBlnq7Tqq8Eez2b70RB/f7oYY298C48wNryd0u5CqIf2f465Lq VLHXnxPfm+Khx5fwa4/Yv6JW9Jb2Xnc84TohqnGTwJ8tM96XnyOq3FwpZK4H60S+ 9tj7tqhK7q125rXFKAZCQz2rg4Fd5kLsV0c/xU1TjsgQx6KKkFEKefvqTGtYMWl8 90kuTpOOgtj3KH+y8QbZBKW7zCw0C9klK3XcI6omHiVJ1wI6E092wGWaycyHEcun cA/xpnnGxVB6IVVUmG7BD83ZXIgM5fouOL9H1Ce3tgjaPrazhN/D0ZUTW9rvC9aS dEN4aA85tOQEA8w/oOLBQ0HIYpkYVKhlZsZm/ATRYTC2T4JG290= =CvRy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/AbkRccFZ3LuRhj4-- From nobody Tue Oct 12 14:45:32 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A138417FF92E for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [66.165.241.226]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.nomadlogic.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTJPW2LwVz3CXX for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomadlogic.org; s=04242021; t=1634049933; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+AuCBBxZzYWmV9tezjolrlkYLVvk9EwgtjdEvPrBIZQ=; b=A6MomIBpbxDkFkCZGtamqCsaOxEF76TsIHGCSz419FKGlhqxWXIBr85+2JaMXvNelj3u7O vvHH5ZpW9ikUy2wK5na8gDVCDTXaLAKwjs/m1pBZj+rA0lgMXm2LI+t3ieQSWU1bBkdede iIloUAnjpN7tMdN7QhuwaLUb7VpW8jM= Received: from [192.168.1.160] (cpe-24-24-163-126.socal.res.rr.com [24.24.163.126]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 48020e09 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Is there a way to get direct execution of java jar files in FreeBSD? To: list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se, questions@freebsd.org References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:45:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTJPW2LwVz3CXX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Reply-To: pete@nomadlogic.org From: Pete Wright via questions X-Original-From: Pete Wright X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/12/21 2:48 AM, list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se wrote: > I want to start a java jar file from inetd in FreeBSD 12. > > It seems I need to do this with the command java -jar xxx.jar, > since I can't find a way to get direct execution of jar files. > > The java -jar method works fine, but the problem is that xxx.jar > needs to know the IP address of the connecting client, and it should > get that via the function System.inheritedChannel(), but it doesn't. > > Could it be that the java -jar start method in inetd doesn't transfer > the client socket to xxx.jar? > > Anyway, that's why I wonder if there is a way to start xxx.jar without > java -jar. it really depends on how the Java program itself expects to be executed.  I have some spring-boot services that work fine when started up via daemon(8) on FreeBSD.  I actually use a wrapper shell script to prepare the app's appropriate environment variables then just have it execute "java -jar my-app.jar". this should also work fine under inetd but i would be careful there as often times spinning up the JRE is an expensive and time consuming operations, so if possible i'd suggest just running as a long running daemon. from what you describe above it sounds like it may be a bug in the app itself getting the IP addresses of clients. -p -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA From nobody Tue Oct 12 14:55:50 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E359C1806419 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTJdC0MwMz3K4k for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57B9516BF6 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:55:51 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1634050551; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7kpKESuJ/dSx/n1bxNbQNnlkugPmm4r5N4FJmHx7QO8=; b=boz/lJ+lezCGKtN1P0B4xoSq/00n8F5zghjSVmi+mr72wNY7nc9Bq+qkUOM3mYD3UT4kRO bNT8fH8NK1yowR8nxEyR1VGbf6uYhvY2seCoP+Bz+CHP59CJ/QpRXSrK3y7K6Bd5jfd0f1 vh5P7Q2xLft1P21txCjk4keo7bxbyUo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:55:50 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <35ADF5FE-E05D-428B-AD96-D8D231067C29@boosten.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTJdC0MwMz3K4k X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b="boz/lJ+l"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Quite relevant to this discussion is today's HN topic "Solo-preneurs, how do you DevOps to save time?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838132 I see I'm not the only one who has fallen back to "spooky arcane oldhat sysadmin deploy techniques" I have to admit that I enjoyed watching my complex saltstack automation work, until it didn't. 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Is there a chance >> to route the traffic over the vpn Network? >> >> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts >> file but it will not work. >> >> Is there a chance to make it with pf? > > No. 192.168.0.x is non-routable by definition. The only way around this would be to have your perimeter firewall punch through stuff from the outside coming in on port 25 to your VPS instance. This is almost certainly not going to happen. A better way is to find a free/cheap external mail provider that will host mail for your domain. I believe namecheap.com will do it for $10 US/year if you use them as your domain registrar. You can then use automation on your FreeBSD box to poll the upstream server and pull in the inbound mail on a regular cadence. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From nobody Tue Oct 12 15:04:03 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions+bounces-98-260651812=qq.com@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B3517E56DE for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 260651812+auto_=freebsd-questions+bounces-98-260651812=qq.com=freebsd.org@qq.com) Received: from out162-62-57-210.mail.qq.com (out162-62-57-210.mail.qq.com [162.62.57.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTJtz04rXz3Qpy for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 260651812+auto_=freebsd-questions+bounces-98-260651812=qq.com=freebsd.org@qq.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Tue, 12 Oct 2021 09:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTLHv36nkz4YJX X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bferrell@baywinds.org designates 50.196.187.248 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bferrell@baywinds.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[baywinds.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:50.128.0.0/9, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/12/21 8:01 AM, Tim Daneliuk via questions wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 08:04:54AM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance >>> to route the traffic over the vpn Network? >>> >>> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts >>> file but it will not work. >>> >>> Is there a chance to make it with pf? >> > No. 192.168.0.x is non-routable by definition. The only way around > this would be to have your perimeter firewall punch through stuff > from the outside coming in on port 25 to your VPS instance. This > is almost certainly not going to happen. > > A better way is to find a free/cheap external mail provider that will > host mail for your domain. I believe namecheap.com will do it for $10 US/year > if you use them as your domain registrar. You can then use automation on > your FreeBSD box to poll the upstream server and pull in the inbound mail > on a regular cadence. > > I use pfSense with openvpn. The remote links all carry 192.168.xx.xx addresses. My internal network, behind my firewall, carries 192.0.2.x (old sunos test network... still not routable, but not one of the usual RFC networks.  Developers lose their minds over this) I use devices behind remote firewalls that carry 10.x.x.x and VPN back to my openvpn gateway. Those devices ARE reachable via the VPN link and my 192.0.2.x network is reachable from them via the VPN link (192.168.xx.xx VPN link endpoint). So to say that the RFC networks are absolutely unroutable is slightly not accurate. Manually placing a route for an "unroutable" network is perfectly possible, if a bit odd.  It's actually done all the time for commercial VPN networks (pulsesecure, Cisco etc ). From nobody Tue Oct 12 23:39:52 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231B1800C93 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from keymaster.home (ns1.xn--wesstrm-f1a.se [81.4.102.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz", Issuer "keymaster.pp.dyndns.biz" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTXHK3kpFz4qCt for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from [192.168.254.0] ([192.168.254.0]) by keymaster.home (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 19CNdqmG085849 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 01:39:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz) Subject: Re: Mail Traffic To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20211012080454.f14bb36b1d92b67aaf7e1c78@web.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=c3=b6m?= Message-ID: <619c32af-ff87-70ac-a02f-ae1c6f7ed319@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 01:39:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20211012080454.f14bb36b1d92b67aaf7e1c78@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTXHK3kpFz4qCt X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz has no SPF policy when checking 81.4.102.176) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-database@pp.dyndns.biz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.28 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.81)[-0.811]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.89)[0.891]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[keymaster.home]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[keymaster.home]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pp.dyndns.biz]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:198203, ipnet:81.4.100.0/22, country:NL]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_MIXED_CHARSET(1.00)[subject] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2021-10-12 08:04, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance > to route the traffic over the vpn Network? > > My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts > file but it will not work. > > Is there a chance to make it with pf? > > Thank you for ideas. > > Silvio > I didn't fully understand your first paragraph but this is how I do it and I hope I understood your question correctly. :) My ISP blocks outgoing port 25 too (like most ISPs do these days). I have a VPS on RamNode, who doesn't block anything, and I run my mail-server there. I connect my LAN and that VPS through an OpenVPN tunnel and I can now send and receive mail from any machine on my LAN with no problems. In pf I just do a pass all on the tun interfaces but nothing stops you from creating a rule that just pass the data on port 25/587. Regards Morgan From nobody Tue Oct 12 23:50:43 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724DF1804644 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTXVF6pp0z4sfK for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 23:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 508981734B for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:50:44 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1634082644; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=t3s2fCmM7URibYC1fcPBusQhTzk0vrcRe9zxZH8m5nU=; b=Bvqc41ho4D6w+sl9NDq6LmgozkaYvswHFzfyV4xdFeAxDZfrVEfFq6hYbQiU7svWajLyL5 lDno3OUjbTrtlY0Gfsa9RMlwx2uDdoqtTKZyzsC7i28sMxqaHLRGePs7nyRGdFv/W2Sh61 pHvdxOrVw3/fTKXZFJqqHxhPa9Lu4SY= Message-ID: <2d7b22a2-8452-702b-0ea9-4195deca8480@pinyon.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 16:50:43 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: Mail Traffic Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20211012080454.f14bb36b1d92b67aaf7e1c78@web.de> <619c32af-ff87-70ac-a02f-ae1c6f7ed319@pp.dyndns.biz> From: "Russell L. Carter" In-Reply-To: <619c32af-ff87-70ac-a02f-ae1c6f7ed319@pp.dyndns.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.23 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTXVF6pp0z4sfK X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b=Bvqc41ho; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.11 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.65)[-0.647]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.989]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/12/21 16:39, Morgan Wesström wrote: > On 2021-10-12 08:04, Silvio Siefke wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance >> to route the traffic over the vpn Network? >> >> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts >> file but it will not work. >> >> Is there a chance to make it with pf? >> >> Thank you for ideas. >> >> Silvio >> > > I didn't fully understand your first paragraph but this is how I do it > and I hope I understood your question correctly. :) > > My ISP blocks outgoing port 25 too (like most ISPs do these days). I > have a VPS on RamNode, who doesn't block anything, and I run my > mail-server there. I connect my LAN and that VPS through an OpenVPN > tunnel and I can now send and receive mail from any machine on my LAN > with no problems. > > In pf I just do a pass all on the tun interfaces but nothing stops you > from creating a rule that just pass the data on port 25/587. We had a related discussion back in February about this and the use of SMTP forwarders. I've been using duocircle's free tier and it so far is perfect. If you're interested I think this might be a good entry point in the archives: https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=47674+0+archive/2021/freebsd-questions/20210307.freebsd-questions Russell > > Regards > Morgan > From nobody Wed Oct 13 00:46:04 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753B17F2D4F for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42a.google.com (mail-wr1-x42a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTYk63nFJz3hbW for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42a.google.com with SMTP id m22so2692159wrb.0 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=E7kYggF0XpfDWFgZ6viWfPvmZcTNp+OPaWzsVQYEXSo=; b=eW1l4Nh9y+2LsWmy0lci3YNXMqPI+5OJgIP6EqgnrpkHz3aXqkGs9o5fLZUU45HBXP 3G+AcTRGJZUjLCyGabiCojbi64LtBS9RM5G3P2wounCRk8UUKe55vJZbsMM33QcZUl7e WlNGhbmfqvi8EvqyHSMyU4IROYlxsjaMmeCruZs0MnDL2n8kgcsP3LZwz10276B7JSQI +x5VeuDA0/lTKPjf4DQO9bCueP8MWjRZsFCShUR98rFxgCFdthipgS/tV+FrMzcxRxQY 8gHggwvhMjcXztu65CuhFytSFlLMfJaxvjLW2KCJTn37rDzqPfxosv+sr5ag6Anphyor GgrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=E7kYggF0XpfDWFgZ6viWfPvmZcTNp+OPaWzsVQYEXSo=; b=ogZ+qwzi5L/JsckowLaxWWFAfmw2Cw+mwLbbT5+0mu4hrW7p71ab+DUvyu93YWNBGK 1QmDvNwWQoFdiojCxQNVfSvRzcNKJxlzEBdMeKN7ntBR2I5h0XvPvbNHH2oHjaoDdtdE P3yh9GeSNAk/8iIBv4nDtUPPUW5YziW0MJOmsM8gMPt/JKmRQVVBZNKr8ZTlV/2owveY p8HgXAOe2hO5+A3nYqgTQGUg2MY6dS9QEMx8zwEQ/VY98Tcs/NEAYx5QI1LIlfpAuHwu NESyDjctB3y/fTRKj00Pb7o3WVIqm1ALq6kxWaxSS0kRIv4oIuNedq1WrnCe9m+K08Cc ty8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531+kfy1IfVLlB9VajrSyrmy+1HwFffMjSxJrZYPZMsncqUxzTFL QFU2VUghfeIjagdw0gzSTeBCcx5YPlI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwJ8B8xKgAV8KXCo9HRgkDBLaD1dXob73OfD2Feayc+dj4X8rEp4a5Oi7mfgHdeHg3B2whv6A== X-Received: by 2002:adf:8bd2:: with SMTP id w18mr35580212wra.432.1634085965246; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:470:1f1c:a0::2? 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[2001:470:1f1c:a0::2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o19sm12312549wrg.60.2021.10.12.17.46.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (259090) UFS soft update journaling (was: [Bug 255979] fsck bad inode number 2 (256) to nextinode) To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <546a1fc6-f167-46da-921d-a03ef88c8349@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 01:46:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C8C7FB46DB8EA5CD11CD5769" Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTYk63nFJz3hbW X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=eW1l4Nh9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.10)[0.096]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.80)[0.802]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42a:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C8C7FB46DB8EA5CD11CD5769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 11/10/2021 12:47, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > … > > 1. … > 2. You need to update to the stable/13 release which has the fix in it. > (a) 𠉧… > (b) Or you can download the latest snapshot of stable/13 from > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/13.0-STABLE/amd64/Latest > > … > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255979 > > … Probably not for Odhiambo's case, but where starting afresh with a FreeBSD-provided image: it might be preferable to begin with 12.2-RELEASE then update, then upgrade to stable/13. UFS: bad file descriptor: soft update journaling can not be enabled on FreeBSD-provided disk images for 13.0-RELEASE and 13.0-STABLE – failed to write updated cg --------------C8C7FB46DB8EA5CD11CD5769-- From nobody Wed Oct 13 09:07:26 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF41017F9F41 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=FaMR=PB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HTmrm0SGRz4nBW for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=FaMR=PB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from x1 (77.109.117.16.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.117.16]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01F281D4FC1B; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:07:26 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Message-ID: <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> Mail-Followup-To: Andrea Venturoli , questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="youdfg2nr2dwp5lz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTmrm0SGRz4nBW X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of "SRS0=FaMR=PB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be" designates 193.191.208.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=FaMR=PB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.97 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.48)[-0.482]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.970]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[perdition.city]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.987]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=FaMR=PB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[77.109.117.16:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[julien@perdition.city,SRS0=FaMR=PB=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2611, ipnet:193.191.192.0/19, country:BE] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --youdfg2nr2dwp5lz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:54:06PM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >=20 > On 10/11/21 14:30, Peter Boosten via questions wrote: >=20 > > > I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I > > > always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g. > > > providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big > > > picture). >=20 > Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage > jails? > Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a way > to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing specific ja= il > commands to base? I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail? That's what I'm doing here and it works well. There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion >=20 > bye & Thanks > av. >=20 --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTn5p2Ftxz4sML X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202108 header.b=aDmPFC15; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202108]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/13/21 11:07, Julien Cigar wrote: > I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula Thanks, I'll look into it. From the short description I think it doesn't suit my needs, but I'll look better. > What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail? Overhead, mainly. Having a lot of Salt process running consumes memory (which might be scarce in older systems). More packages to install/maintain/upgrade. Etc... > There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion Might be better, although I guess it would need enabling SSH in every jail (which is something I don't normally do). 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Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 14:49:57 +0100 From: tech-lists To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HaAj0ONhXy/iokaV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTv6b3XlDz3Jn5 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b="zyjPZ/cH"; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=nLKEWB1m; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net has no SPF policy when checking 66.111.4.29) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zyxst.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.0.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.29:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zyxst.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.111.4.29:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --HaAj0ONhXy/iokaV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various >userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most >important element is a networked version control system. I've only ever used cvs in a client context, so please forgive me for asking a question that might seem daft - but is there a cvs server on each machine you admin? if yes, are there security issues associated with cvs? thanks, --=20 J. --HaAj0ONhXy/iokaV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFm5AUACgkQs8o7QhFz NAWIhRAArpXDbeBb2FaGcax9vVUHq4O0Dk+pRR1Zf3fXvonFe31tn3XgQI8/myAb iEC4a9kkvnLbSl/wa32+TlaoGIahPHB7mryCY6xHc56E+81fT3sEVBKo9Qh1rXlJ nMgfHkAceBQIf927tyOsuFpcLZR2lURi2PF0PzK5h7XKRmZl94+5PdsSxqAqfxA6 b4UfhVZqG4HTO9rHhfN/b2b1rE6DWU1Au/Z6wmbE5NERTQtrs5zpOa2Eyz0FLnqP 0ZvE/91FBY80Z+y4k3lwZgINNFglVAG4N0uzN8WGYxzNg961jEP5Ae4fIaJtYDKS R7O/fvgVERo3qXzOajGnmjc1WjcfDmdBaSwobRhfLrmucFtPHsGCKWFIldYyE/xm 5fwILDsWPfytGgC+a9NSTMnXkIWWB7afcq3JpBvn/7TEDgt32qod2hTGzeneOksU BeCg4hw7qZAyuU/QC75AC8tvujE9/ztNBUZFA9Sjvdy80nswc+SeWJMB6wcCUKnX izptjcRLhhtdhZPX26oJesmtDZ0vDBxDnGjO5pUTgeeT6bBV7jurGQJwTyWae+cs RYErs/jpvuqfRMngoY8qrXrgupnklpNRBPcnEzN36wbQnG25uJFZdKIjjIhATv8i Rn7ri7s7p0MIVDIQ7DBJCk8SBUOESbHF5M5Q1Ju+FZeslkhqUrc= =vE6v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HaAj0ONhXy/iokaV-- From nobody Wed Oct 13 13:52:13 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D86180E931 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTv9C2VMHz3Lmr for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A6B5C00EA for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:52:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm3; bh=BuhPAnYfclcSQ+5upFaMir0HOV3 SrnU5GVQmQ5EDHAU=; b=I2/HEtS7A55mmAZD2lwYetLvj9pJyLO76AdMsAjZSHs nG9YG0QmqGkRE3W4dxUGykshtyu0iVU0RRnt/J7rOxGBtS3y+DII5JS6qdMd4EDG JP/TOkGFNE3KF3aVGJeTeoBqOwtJSpC5cotoVld1IPrDh6SY9MnAh8BEQnu8mtr5 YBckrMwxPtrGfJsNpLeYP4V3BLixmKk8rSC+gYHQ1K8l4vHg9yn8Yt5+tAnFt3wg /Mjf4NFaD5iAOEihttlTE6tksVZwZn0jsS2iqYhvgQ4zwRA1MTO+aJB2pMenenZt UM/fIGSAlYDJf2Jw0KRdZXE19C08uGYU6GPBg4B6v3A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=BuhPAn YfclcSQ+5upFaMir0HOV3SrnU5GVQmQ5EDHAU=; b=nNXVtaZfWHYV5OGNEXfT3g h+qwh3U2DaNZ3v75P/VytpzRN44L9cnjamPw5+VlG47ww1IF30swU5qcSREXD8eg Pw4k54Sw1Q3kXNALx/ghDtKSQuXNebje/y9oIXPOVfkbEHl3mSW/YdDsttQSYZx5 NPL4NfJJabDITbZ30slYqnktPtU2OWaOsl/iK1Z+0WG8wLZC8kEpHsfZDcMOmkDR 3LsdXtpGynEtCwA89PAtG2MpQsrwXNTenReznME0zsxvVhzRS57ps60r7qYYM8o7 NkfmqruyuogcMC1JpbiHd0UWvN7XUNezvb7pPavOahqLWRNpdcWXD9LJVOuNWLEQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvtddrvddutddgieekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtre ertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepthgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsuceothgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsseii hiigshhtrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedtheeigfdvudefkeekvddtfedvte dttdekuddvgeevlefftdekffdujedvhfduteenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecu rfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehtvggthhdqlhhishhtshesiiihgihsthdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 14:52:13 +0100 From: tech-lists To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lpjgBBpjzVELdnuD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTv9C2VMHz3Lmr X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b="I2/HEtS7"; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=nNXVtaZf; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net has no SPF policy when checking 66.111.4.29) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zyxst.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.0.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.29:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zyxst.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.111.4.29:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --lpjgBBpjzVELdnuD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 02:49:57PM +0100, tech-lists wrote: >On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >>I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various >>userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most >>important element is a networked version control system. > >I've only ever used cvs in a client context, so please forgive me for >asking a question that might seem daft - but is there a cvs server on >each machine you admin? > >if yes, are there security issues associated with cvs? > >thanks, >--=20 >J. ignore this i can see you've answered earlier in the thread --=20 J. --lpjgBBpjzVELdnuD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAmFm5I0ACgkQs8o7QhFz NAWhCg//RB2vCsUhWXIMPeU5vlRenYi2GpkzDNzdnDVFlKW3Ys+RRmUwNYw7fKEO ab3tI8Kfe6D2fR0M2zpfwcPUHNb0FZXJPMlQ+Wq7P9SwyKON1s+Dz+huaC4yGcuk 5ngFCJ4DvX0MSf53pSeGbqZ/HoRd9oz82WOsU4YjDjXjMQMZEcy55q6ojCO8z205 Jg7XiqbgOUF4xL4sxhnkm52/xZU+NASMa/AnD89M3CDodV6Edzczhb4CgALTI4eh S6+45qMxRviiG+uxakAtgmSF1LZlkXwngP+bScFcrSP5NN7InNaXRdZjlO0LCzfT 9UQdkyeGZbZ+rYQiEcXzqp+ANbzNQOHzLk1rEf0Nf2vPIrwN7HxZzFWUcpZ/BUNg p67hcTipAlcNxOVGtssBb5GqKAT9YX0iuA8KV0B/CZsP49Hx31aiiAKd7Xa+u9u2 03iq15GWK+ArejtHsH3gN+XqE31xXYH3Bjufvf7Pd+fCHsCi74lI0D3xFqdPUKrH VdW9/FJAiowlrSJeCRQMSkprxaaj0wGw7woFh0Ji6/em4TBTRAFYnE6m9XPCh4d8 AOvxmLZB3zOgbLqliZ1AunhD2NIJikXHwGBRHnTbh7xLG1Hb1kvC8zd0uiw+Y+93 nwp5mlQUCOA/XQhSIBuOSB9SVEW4vHG/YpSQ0ZckLF9/UzuAxSM= =8UWl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lpjgBBpjzVELdnuD-- From nobody Wed Oct 13 16:16:29 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C2A1802C97 for ; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I've tried searching for an authorative answer on this, but answers seem to vary between Oracle-ZFS, FreeBSD-ZFS and OpenZFS, and nothing really recent (context is recent stable/13) Using zfs send -R data/home/foo/bar@20211013 | pv | ssh remote.system zfs recv -dvu data/backup I can see it completes the sending of the snapshot but I'll see this as it just finishes, at the sending systems term: cannot receive mountpoint property on data/backup/home/foo/bar Is this just because the data/backup/home/foo/bar filesystem=20 was mounted on the sending system, and the snapshot inherited it?=20 In which case I guess it can be ignored? because I don't want it mounted at the receiving end (it wasn't mounted at the receiving end) For the received snapshot, all I care about is to be able to mount it should I need it. 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Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HV0xj6hpCz4RpF X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=gYjwtDiR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:november.he.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/13/21 06:49, tech-lists wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: >> I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various >> userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl).  The most >> important element is a networked version control system. > > I've only ever used cvs in a client context, so please forgive me for > asking a question that might seem daft - but is there a cvs server on > each machine you admin? The CVS repository is in a jail on the server. It is not really a service -- the clients connect via SSH and run the CLI. Putting CVS in a jail on the server can and has complicated sysadmin tasks when I need to work either or both the server and jail. A dedicated machine without the jail would be simpler. > if yes, are there security issues associated with cvs? I think there are security issues no matter how you run CVS: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=442&product_id=0&version_id=0&page=1&hasexp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=20&sha=94cfaaf625f54f37acad68e891f591329feb2260 David From nobody Wed Oct 13 23:29:09 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F161417FBA79 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 23:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HV7z04NH9z3vc7 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 23:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rockyhotas@post.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mail.com; s=dbd5af2cbaf7; t=1634167749; bh=+QJIqY1rZrUbRBs0j5sLnaQyWOmLfL5c0h6EwV4a+v4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=A85qBr0/CdjjMObjfmO9MLXzdJnJ02TzhTeWF2X3vrhrIDlY2hwK2tluhS536fgdB XnLpJDDVsscjgRDJP8NyFFdPrpWtxRkTmd1rWwNjmWfw71vHhycRcM1aNwG1Z1ru6/ ADgPhlCwJpIukpjqa7+mZawK3Nzn3HF0yv2gQsMo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 214d933f-fd2f-45c7-a636-f5d79ae31a79 Received: from [95.239.65.125] ([95.239.65.125]) by web-mail.mail.com (3c-app-mailcom-lxa09.server.lan [10.76.45.10]) (via HTTP); Thu, 14 Oct 2021 01:29:09 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Rocky Hotas To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: FreeBSD equivalent of ethtool Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 01:29:09 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ADWEK0TOyeYFFh0cc4HZ1SdqjYSpBGZ3JO9HwBbLVUscIVyvnHOCkY2Gzu//NY8Rg5H0b o3alQi0GrMlWzvrl8vl6FfVOdPiqpObiXPWNQJCQk04bNqjGpwDi31d4eUSdBWjFK8v//YXG0Odv AUMmtxdqIJOn5+n3A8lJH9FL0iEuOUgBKwo9SwqEy7gIm9lKIB8ksxMT16n51OqKEGnA9afPctGC GRvL0rRTTczY0JAqG7iCO0YRK0G3jJfER/sZh75iGRcLuLdL7D/PVw59Dmld/DwdslvBcxQMaayZ ic= X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cNcqPNn51lE=:iWYEyFi5I7tvBBgaVe3ntp E6ZrgGq7xjRXxaC9WvKOjehxg8TDFLcxqQ/wEiKYz3M37x6Cx9AYk3sNcla6d0xqFLP3SG7oW weoWi5ZOXj+tCll3kqD3oEaGZWNIrF9MK8lZn/6afXasbj85kxPP4GRA9OiE3f2H7DcUBgd7x aj0ufHCVOhXnuQvxcMEsEeXpSJC2In4AMIFkaV3I4f7il+0EPn8JPo1OiNwWrc8ewOQG0wi1A xcHb3aitIlEOR7L0/3Hpa+ecSUu6uRANIsyRY6qi4pWfLLYBSs2LNmXhgqEDX6HLfo6k3/ONr SKezyOddLXUWz8t1NvGI6fYKUZmhI33XtobOTFmT042j/sN4cBxxQfX5MF1oxa7Y4TkNZg/XI rptoDydP3XL0H5vm1QvHcOVBa7gqQVySL4HAVW77YTaKT04EPDDjA5uOquBX/+4AiPUpKDMEo 86hfNXYP/y9pW8+fp0j9/KcN08iVDgWtI594ANfe3TxsQvyXzKMxWc3WSVpDEBoEkxKqYBT1o VgFfC0GEYi7Cub0Cahw+fkqvH+E0OBsi/Mn3PWPd7lsrAAk2gxVSn0PGJXkNFfmPrK+R+qkzI OSlsF9ZWABBILZXolZeNHWuhiosA3qOp33BGFzRE+JyDGBh/YcKwZTv7IhuQK3gBV/ia8ZxGe Aj/EscAcYH3JV6fIaTJkO9EEiB76xKc9NhHo9SJ13zO5Sk/EwQ9VjDK7lf5l2T8l54l1uwFlj oIMps91NGBFoJiaoiSP19xu/jzsjvmJeyPThzeZl+Wlt60Y85azV5tLBlYnrrNjsUpePYbSL5 DJTViZ3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HV7z04NH9z3vc7 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mail.com header.s=dbd5af2cbaf7 header.b="A85qBr0/"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rockyhotas@post.com designates 74.208.4.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rockyhotas@post.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.38 / 15.00]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[74.208.4.200:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mail.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.46)[-0.460]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[95.239.65.125:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mail.com:s=dbd5af2cbaf7]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[mail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[post.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.94)[0.936]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello! `pkg search ethtool' provides no suitable results. Is there any executable in FreeBSD base system or ports which offers the same functionalities (or similar ones) as ethtool in Linux? Thank you, Rocky From nobody Wed Oct 13 23:37:17 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1C317FFA6D for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 23:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HV88L0x1vz4T2D for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 23:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1634168238; bh=ngurIM5X0IVdZLsPlSPCrHDNGnqB5+fnbeqjgqI1YaE=; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Language: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=t2BMkC6BWeU9Tc+x/2CU1J6Tz04ZI0pBXfwB+iSl/5eUlNPY8/2AaNMLQRg5Hto5I x24Q+Z0ns8/HcostgZUxgv27k2cc9eRlG6B0d5v9CB/nxh1gXArQJT2mZzZfzESQ1+ hVhQP0NYKuExyi9i4r6Mg3Ml7u45U0f7iIpwh8veSjxz7IHOqnxoGPxOs1k++z8KuL go2eGAigeDg+KScWOXL7TDiW/ljrCP8ed2rreLZiRbkhd0Sgtjbj4rG8l1Yvin2mh8 qIENEats6eChL0xjLq6ZQGlppW0/DCzMeO1W0W032ybSBYHUlR4QkbapJkbvyR7nGO XS8w+3wD//QiYHRrsFAUA01nXrXHh2pedPrmOJNAIsChlIhUbDM3ABSS+PIGtYIlWG e7lWHR7wERIXahtF2C3TaU7WSKUF8OuRZHad1QdsoQqINRAHvD1LXKQ/2+8znrS13s NpT3eL1mCjAJKAivc+hoLhOMNNM4IC7s3TJUQvapTe5Exk8eTry187CONnbcVjalA8 l+yISpbDqFx0aMG+9qtTlM9LmnD3JICZ21xN6Yp3Tm+OUkf1sn+vATJkpDI/vRBnnD oA7v/F0mWc7rwYfMEsOHgiGgdkD73itMSqX0LWJXC6x5dUa0cjhtGHlV/PdTPOvQlR 9vSJvrCLNCU44UvDI71DCJl8= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:37:17 -0700 Subject: Re: cannot receive mountpoint property on data/backup/home/foo/bar: permission denied To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:37:17 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HV88L0x1vz4T2D X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=t2BMkC6B; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.03 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SH_EMAIL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[1.52.101.69:email,1.52.101.68:email]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:november.he.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.957]; DBL_PROHIBIT(0.00)[1.52.101.69:email,1.52.101.68:email]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.925]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/13/21 9:16 AM, tech-lists wrote: > Hi > > I've tried searching for an authorative answer on this, but answers seem > to vary between Oracle-ZFS, FreeBSD-ZFS and OpenZFS, and nothing really > recent (context is recent stable/13) > > Using zfs send -R data/home/foo/bar@20211013 | pv | ssh > remote.system zfs recv -dvu data/backup What is 'pv'? Testing on a FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE VirtualBox VM: 2021-10-13 15:35:55 toor@vf1 ~ # freebsd-version ; uname -a 12.2-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD vf1.tracy.holgerdanske.com 12.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p7 GENERIC amd64 2021-10-13 15:59:20 toor@vf1 ~ # zpool list | egrep 'NAME|vf1zpool' NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT vf1zpool1 960M 2.36M 958M - - 15% 0% 1.00x ONLINE - vf1zpool2 960M 1.25M 959M - - 6% 0% 1.00x ONLINE - 2021-10-13 15:58:54 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs create vf1zpool1/home 2021-10-13 15:59:13 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs create vf1zpool1/home/foo 2021-10-13 15:59:17 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs create vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar 2021-10-13 16:00:15 toor@vf1 ~ # echo "hello, world!" > /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar/hello.txt 2021-10-13 16:01:36 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs snapshot -r vf1zpool1@20211012 2021-10-13 16:05:13 toor@vf1 ~ # echo "goodbye, cruel, world!" > /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar/goodbye.txt 2021-10-13 16:06:31 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs snapshot -r vf1zpool1@20211013 2021-10-13 16:16:38 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs send -R vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 | zfs recv -dvu vf1zpool2/backupcannot receive: specified fs (vf1zpool2/backup) does not exist Create the destination filesystem: 2021-10-13 16:17:54 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs create vf1zpool2/backup Try again: 2021-10-13 16:18:31 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs send -R vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 | zfs recv -dvu vf1zpool2/backup receiving full stream of vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211012 into vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211012 received 48.5KB stream in 1 seconds (48.5KB/sec) receiving incremental stream of vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 into vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211013 received 10.2KB stream in 1 seconds (10.2KB/sec) 2021-10-13 16:18:45 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs list -r -t all vf1zpool2 NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT vf1zpool2 1.52M 830M 88K /vf1zpool2 vf1zpool2/backup 456K 830M 96K /vf1zpool2/backup vf1zpool2/backup/home 360K 830M 96K /vf1zpool2/backup/home vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo 264K 830M 96K /vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar 168K 830M 112K /vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211012 56K - 100K - vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211013 0 - 112K - 2021-10-13 16:19:03 toor@vf1 ~ # mount | grep vf1zpool | sort vf1zpool1 on /vf1zpool1 (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool1/home on /vf1zpool1/home (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool1/home/foo on /vf1zpool1/home/foo (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar on /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool2 on /vf1zpool2 (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool2/backup on /vf1zpool2/backup (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool2/backup/home on /vf1zpool2/backup/home (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo on /vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo (zfs, local, nfsv4acls) The replication worked. Note that the replica leaf directory 'bar' is not mounted, but its parents are; per the zfs receive -u option. If I try to replicate again: 2021-10-13 16:19:29 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs send -R vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 | zfs recv -dvu vf1zpool2/backup cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar' exists must specify -F to overwrite it warning: cannot send 'vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211012': signal received warning: cannot send 'vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013': Broken pipe That failed, as it should; but not with the error message you are seeing (below). > I can see it completes the > sending of the snapshot but I'll see this as it just finishes, at the > sending systems term: > > cannot receive mountpoint property on data/backup/home/foo/bar > > Is this just because the data/backup/home/foo/bar filesystem was mounted > on the sending system, and the snapshot inherited it? > In which case I guess it can be ignored? because I don't want it > mounted at the receiving end (it wasn't mounted at the receiving end) > > For the received snapshot, all I care about is to be able to mount it > should I need it. But I won't usually need it. > > thanks, Do you see the replica on the receiving system? E.g.: # ssh remote.system zfs list -r -t all data/backup/home David From nobody Thu Oct 14 00:00:14 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3CA180A0FA for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [66.165.241.226]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.nomadlogic.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HV8fx2vh4z4cpZ for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomadlogic.org; s=04242021; t=1634169617; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=DCeZbyCuh6W57vbzZ1gRN1CSjIQDudflbWxUaqLxHH4=; b=fERUh+pUotk7ALbswL4Kj6Mk/b+wD+J1QpT+84Mz+W0H4yyyoNdopooYppyKQCgCKbwnHM QHXEcBsmzBI1OwNb/CfEomrJy2GRvt2+gpG1zZuV42dpvXsDgRMCTNFiQwYfh84rdWrO/N k1/5voSN14cK/OWfgSTE/lnyt3zk8fs= Received: from [192.168.1.160] (cpe-24-24-163-126.socal.res.rr.com [24.24.163.126]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id f4c2d8a7 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FreeBSD equivalent of ethtool To: Rocky Hotas , FreeBSD Questions References: Message-ID: <3d5a21ba-9502-0362-05ef-349dd57d3bf6@nomadlogic.org> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 17:00:14 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HV8fx2vh4z4cpZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Reply-To: pete@nomadlogic.org From: Pete Wright via freebsd-questions X-Original-From: Pete Wright X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/13/21 4:29 PM, Rocky Hotas wrote: > Hello! > `pkg search ethtool' provides no suitable results. Is there any executable > in FreeBSD base system or ports which offers the same functionalities > (or similar ones) as ethtool in Linux? I think it really depends on what your specific use-case is. I find that BSD ifconfig(8) covers most use cases for configuring interfaces (both physical and virtual), and the sysctl interface is also useful for pulling and setting device specific information. the latter is usually well documented in the man page for the interface (see if_em(4) for example). it should be noted that ifconfig(8) on bsd's tends to do much more than the old linux ifconfig and probably the new "ip" command as well. finaly, netstat(1) is very helpful for viewing information about the network stack itself, for example "netstat -m" to view memory stats. -p -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA From nobody Thu Oct 14 00:01:21 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions+bounces-113-260651812=qq.com@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987EF180AC34 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 260651812+auto_=freebsd-questions+bounces-113-260651812=qq.com=freebsd.org@qq.com) Received: from out203-205-251-66.mail.qq.com (out203-205-251-66.mail.qq.com [203.205.251.66]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HV8hH5pTgz4dVL for ; 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ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::936:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.09)[0.091]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000fccec905ce456adf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 3:52 AM parv/freebsd wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:20 PM parv/freebsd wrote: > > Hi me, > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:05 PM parv/freebsd wrote: >> >> (I have rearranged my quoted email) >> >> [CentOS 8 NFS v3 client sometimes prints ...] >> >>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 >>> stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:0:672075] >>> >>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:10:672632] >>> >>> ... > >> How do I go about investigating or solve this? >> >> ... > >> I have collected tcpdump output on both server & client ... >> >> https://github.com/parv/centos8-nfs3-issue/ >> > ... > > While trying to find if there is an update for CentOS 8 "nfs-utils" > package, I came upon the thread on "linux-nfs" mailing list ... > > CPU lockup in or near new filecache code, 201912, > https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157599524312895&w=2 ; > > a patch, 201912, > https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157609449120027&w=2 ; > > more to come, 202001 > https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157807452103938&w=2 ? > > > Now the question is will the fix be available on CentOS 8 anytime > soon, as above thread was concerned with, AIUI, kernel 5.5 (CentOS 8 > kernel is hovering around 4.18)? > > Not a FreeBSD issue anymore, however, seems like. > ... not quite. (In addition or stead of "uname -a", I should have mentioned "freebsd-version -kur" in hindsight.) Moving to FreeBSD 12.2-p9 or -p10 did not solve issue of FreeBSD NFS v3 server timing out on CentOS 8 client after ~13-14 minutes of file copying. But going back to -p8 did; there were no more "CPU stuck", stack traces on CentOS 8. 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It gives a progress bar and speed of the data through the pipe. The command to send was via interactive term and I wanted to see it max out my local LAN :D it's not something i'd put in a script. >The replication worked. Note that the replica leaf directory 'bar' is >not mounted, but its parents are; per the zfs receive -u option. Yes, that is the case here. >That failed, as it should; but not with the error message you are seeing >(below). >Do you see the replica on the receiving system? E.g.: > ># ssh remote.system zfs list -r -t all data/backup/home Yes, it's all there. Maybe zfs recv needs to be told mountpoint=3Dnoauto or something but my google-fu doesn't find it for recent stable/13 or stable/12 or OpenZFS. There's a couple of threads in the forum about it but they're for freebsd 9.x (and so no OpenZFS) and it doesn't appear=20 in the (stable/13) handbook in this sort of context. And IIRC the=20 forum threads didn't have a "fix" for it. I don't know if a fix is even required. 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[kworker/u24:0:672075] >>>> >>>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:10:672632] >>>> >>>> ... >> >>> How do I go about investigating or solve this? >>> >>> ... >> >>> I have collected tcpdump output on both server & client ... >>> >>> https://github.com/parv/centos8-nfs3-issue/ >>> >> ... >> >> While trying to find if there is an update for CentOS 8 "nfs-utils" >> package, I came upon the thread on "linux-nfs" mailing list ... >> >> CPU lockup in or near new filecache code, 201912, >> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157599524312895&w=2 ; >> >> a patch, 201912, >> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157609449120027&w=2 ; >> >> more to come, 202001 >> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157807452103938&w=2 ? >> > ... > Moving to FreeBSD 12.2-p9 or -p10 did not solve issue of FreeBSD NFS v3 >> server >> timing out on CentOS 8 client after ~13-14 minutes of file copying. >> >> But going back to -p8 did; there were no more "CPU stuck", stack traces >> on CentOS 8. >> >> Update of -p9 brought changes to libcasper >> > Bug filed: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=259163 - parv > --0000000000002e993e05ce461164-- From nobody Thu Oct 14 08:40:22 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8831803801 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=4dPI=PC=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from orval.bbpf.belspo.be (orval.bbpf.belspo.be [193.191.208.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4HVNBx6Pvvz4yFF for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 08:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=4dPI=PC=perdition.city=julien@bebif.be) Received: from x1 (77.109.117.16.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [77.109.117.16]) by orval.bbpf.belspo.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A8FB1D4FC1B; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:40:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:40:22 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Message-ID: <20211014084022.nzstpj4yflzbtwnt@x1> Mail-Followup-To: Andrea Venturoli , questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <20211013090726.5u7qsy5lo2iwwjud@x1> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uwwh2kk7dqswo3iz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HVNBx6Pvvz4yFF X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --uwwh2kk7dqswo3iz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:18:45AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >=20 > On 10/13/21 11:07, Julien Cigar wrote: >=20 > > I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula >=20 > Thanks, I'll look into it. > From the short description I think it doesn't suit my needs, but I'll look > better. >=20 (I'm the author of the formula) The formula currently doesn't support zfs clones-like and/or send/recv=20 jails (it currently fetches everything). >=20 >=20 > > What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail? >=20 > Overhead, mainly. > Having a lot of Salt process running consumes memory (which might be scar= ce > in older systems). That's true, although a salt-minion process consumes only ~60MB. Unless you have many many jails or older system with less RAM I would say that memory usage is not an issue. > More packages to install/maintain/upgrade. You can handle this with an orchestration script or ... > Etc... >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion >=20 > Might be better, although I guess it would need enabling SSH in every jail > (which is something I don't normally do). > I'll look into it anyway. >=20 >=20 >=20 > bye & Thanks a lot > Andrea Venturoli >=20 --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Sorry, I didn't specify it explicitly. In particular, `ethtool -d ', that is: dumping all the values in the internal registers of the NIC. > I find that BSD ifconfig(8) covers most use cases for configuring > interfaces (both physical and virtual), and the sysctl interface is also > useful for pulling and setting device specific information. the latter > is usually well documented in the man page for the interface (see > if_em(4) for example). So, maybe I can look in sysctl or ifconfig(8), if they also allow the register dumping. > it should be noted that ifconfig(8) on bsd's tends to do much more than > the old linux ifconfig and probably the new "ip" command as well. Yes, the BSD one is a very different and complex tool. Rocky From nobody Thu Oct 14 19:45:19 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D1C17FED5B for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 19:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HVfyJ1grNz3D1Y for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 19:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1634240720; bh=NpxWJE91O2iq7p382IIGPjHJ1L5QKPgzYKpTZJHWiJc=; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Language: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zmdrz3plc+l0MO2Q2pcLBZu4TC4VIWMIdFrGzM2zOkQel915Lq02aC74FVcawvP7r I5Y2Ou7fmTWJROpr8dNHRzV1uEMp5CIqjnejQQLVryghyOd78l4mH3nWwPytYnjQDZ Rqevmptnnzo4wLmvTq7y1BBSrRFbEMdNRjrgcVvo7pRMSnLGdhi3lwnrG2tSZBwRBl MHIiyUPRFvdVF+myqF4affRn/9K0bgEYwVYPF8pT+nXIU6aOqiOG0CL+anR3OQIWWG Jf+NAkNOQ7WAJHdfKRG6CMbYRvPTlwy8K+1g5vyZX+lW4LIMWzaq6Hh3M+F4Js0Kut n7XJhEieqFKUjjze7sRv+dpvaw1iu7AICTqvcWXbbBsCj8Pd/FiAD2Hj6rQ7FmCByr NhrtVFdGHrS399j1rw1X2b87KXTX43ZVj9hL/7E9QIVyLS3NLUX6FNujDEWxKD3cxR Z7F9chnNaf8/oiZp6N/v7CAvOg7mtXrZnD7pUemt/tIJbboP6Rga+tY+Fle4ePFhAS NkWlXPSNOtuXoUCT90vl7zZz6s8YBmXcmhFDCNwCYVT6Hw7vIg+TcUANbAffM6rnEd F0DM7tjv9f9AjXk+U1XKz9W/c8ovBWutlFd9BxtJJFEkadGbXTgGkLIGI0+6PmRhsO R08uPGqd971Otu0DA+R5UWo4= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 12:45:20 -0700 Subject: Re: cannot receive mountpoint property on data/backup/home/foo/bar: permission denied To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 12:45:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HVfyJ1grNz3D1Y X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=zmdrz3pl; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.01 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SH_EMAIL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[1.52.101.69:email,1.52.101.68:email]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 10/13/21 6:12 PM, tech-lists wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 04:37:17PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> What is 'pv'? > > sysutils/pv = pipe view monitor. It gives a progress bar and speed of > the data through the pipe. The command to send was via interactive > term and I wanted to see it max out my local LAN :D it's not > something i'd put in a script. > >> The replication worked.  Note that the replica leaf directory 'bar' is >> not mounted, but its parents are; per the zfs receive -u option. > > Yes, that is the case here. > >> That failed, as it should; but not with the error message you are seeing >> (below). > >> Do you see the replica on the receiving system?  E.g.: >> >> # ssh remote.system zfs list -r -t all data/backup/home > > Yes, it's all there. Maybe zfs recv needs to be told mountpoint=noauto > or something but my google-fu doesn't find it for recent stable/13 or > stable/12 or OpenZFS. There's a couple of threads in the forum about it > but they're for freebsd 9.x (and so no OpenZFS) and it doesn't appear in > the (stable/13) handbook in this sort of context. And IIRC the forum > threads didn't have a "fix" for it. I don't know if a fix is even > required. But I don't know why mountpoint should even be set, as it's a > snapshot. Have you checked the 'mountpoint' properties on the source and on the receiver? 2021-10-14 12:34:25 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs get -r mountpoint vf1zpool1/home NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE vf1zpool1/home mountpoint /vf1zpool1/home default vf1zpool1/home@20211012 mountpoint - - vf1zpool1/home@20211013 mountpoint - - vf1zpool1/home/foo mountpoint /vf1zpool1/home/foo default vf1zpool1/home/foo@20211012 mountpoint - - vf1zpool1/home/foo@20211013 mountpoint - - vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar mountpoint /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar default vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211012 mountpoint - - vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 mountpoint - - 2021-10-14 12:35:21 toor@vf1 ~ # zfs get -r mountpoint vf1zpool2/backup NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE vf1zpool2/backup mountpoint /vf1zpool2/backup default vf1zpool2/backup/home mountpoint /vf1zpool2/backup/home default vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo mountpoint /vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo default vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar mountpoint /vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar default vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211012 mountpoint - - vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211013 mountpoint - - Taking the idea one step further -- dump all of the properties to a file on the sender, do the same on the receiver, and then diff(1) the files. Same as above for the pool properties. Have you tried replicating from the receiver? Have you tried reproducing the issue with a 13.0-RELEASE sender and/or receiver? 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DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cisco.com:+,cisco.onmicrosoft.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[cisco.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[173.37.227.250:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:109, ipnet:173.37.64.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1] Reply-To: bmcgover@cisco.com From: Brian McGovern (bmcgover) via freebsd-questions X-Original-From: Brian McGovern (bmcgover) X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --_000_BL1PR11MB550964F8D69731BF98D7F325C5B89BL1PR11MB5509namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm running a software terminal server on Raspberry Pi 3s using FTDI->RJ45 = serial cables. Presently running FreeBSD 12.1, but honestly, version doesn'= t matter as I can move to anything, including 13. It appears there is some upper limit that is keeping the number of devices = I can connect to 20. When I add another device, I get the message "usbus0: = No free USB device index for new device". This lets me track it bak to usb_= device.c. >From there, however, it seems to spread out to a number of possible values = - EHCI_MAX_DEVICES, XHCI_MAX_DEVICES, OHCI_MAX_DEVICES, etc, based on the = controller and instance. It eventually seems to reconverge on USB_MAX_DEVIC= ES, which appears to be 128 in most cases. 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