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Subject: HarfBuzz, Electron 12, Chromium and Code - OSS (was: Rollback ports
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On 10/10/2021 23:19, Mario Lobo wrote:
> Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from
> 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium.
Is that still an issue for you?
devel/electron12 bug 257378 affecting many people was Closed FIXED last
week,
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257378#c17>
devel/electron12 bug 258997 affects _some_ people,
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=258997>
<https://www.freshports.org/www/chromium/#packages> may be unusually
sparse.
<https://www.freshports.org/editors/vscode/#packages> is certainly
sparser than usual. editors/vscode bug 258607 remains open,
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=258607> … I should
probably edit its title but don't have the head space at the moment.
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On 10/10/21 15:26, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> I use a single machine to keep host specific files git vc'd,
One Git project per host, or one Git project for everything?
> and then I just write scripts
What scripting language(s)?
> for tasks and rsync them over and execute them from the config box via ssh.
So, the configuration of each host is determined by installation (e.g.
full configuration) followed by a sequence of task scripts (e.g.
differential configuration)?
What if a script fails?
Rollback?
Idempotentcy?
Do you record what scripts have run for each host, and the outcome?
How do you determine the configuration of a host at some point in the past?
What if you perform configuration tasks by hand?
David
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Subject: Re: Rollback ports to before mate update
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 3:20 PM Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 19:15 Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 17:23 Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mate was updated to 1.26 and it blew up on me. I have no usable desktop
>>> and
>>> want to rollback my git clone of ports to its state yesterday. I have the
>>> commit hash fron yesterday morning, but I'm not sure how to get there. I
>>> really hate to completely blow my ports tree.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing "git reset" might be what I'm looking for, but I'm far from
>>> sure. Help!
>>>
>>
>> I think you can accomplish that by going to /usr/ports and run:
>>
>> git checkout hash-of-the-commit
>>
>>
> Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from
> 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium.
>
Thanks!
To avoid any risk of damage, I cloned a new copy into another directory and
did the checkout. I'm back in business and will open an issue with the
update to mate.
--
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From: Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:03:25 -0300
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Subject: Re: HarfBuzz, Electron 12, Chromium and Code - OSS (was: Rollback
ports to before mate update)
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 21:26 Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/2021 23:19, Mario Lobo wrote:
> > Forgot to mention that I did that 2 days ago to downgrade harfbuzz from
> > 3.0.0 to 2.9.1 because of chromium.
>
> Is that still an issue for you?
>
> devel/electron12 bug 257378 affecting many people was Closed FIXED last
> week,
> <https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D257378#c17>
>
> devel/electron12 bug 258997 affects _some_ people,
> <https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D258997>
>
> <https://www.freshports.org/www/chromium/#packages> may be unusually
> sparse.
>
> <https://www.freshports.org/editors/vscode/#packages> is certainly
> sparser than usual. editors/vscode bug 258607 remains open,
> <https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D258607> =E2=80=A6 I =
should
> probably edit its title but don't have the head space at the moment.
>
Well, yes. Because:
1) I can`t compile chromium 92.x because of vulnerabilities
2) Updating firefox updated harfbuzz to 3.0.0
3) I needed my compiled old chromium to come back alive.
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> Where are the archives?
As before, the entire FreeBSD mail archive is available for
you to download and import into your favorite mail client.
That way you can search for whatever you may be
interested in, and can also use your reply button so that
you maintain proper mail threading headers and subjects,
that helps others find your posts on it in the future.
rsync -nHaxi bit0.us-west.freebsd.org::FreeBSD-mailarchive/
> But yes, someone should update the handbook.
If you like volunteer to contribute to docs, ask freebsd-docs@
to set you up, then can make sure this archive service is
listed in the handbook in the email list section too.
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Hi David,
On 10/10/21 17:37, David Christensen wrote:
> On 10/10/21 15:26, Russell L. Carter wrote:
>> I use a single machine to keep host specific files git vc'd,
>
>
> One Git project per host, or one Git project for everything?
I don't think it matters, does it? I just use one for now.
I make a flat set of OS dirs, then underneath each
of those the OS specific hostnames. That way I can share common
OS assumptions, included in the lower sh(1) scripts.
>
>> and then I just write scripts
>
>
> What scripting language(s)?
sh(1)
>
>> for tasks and rsync them over and execute them from the config box via
>> ssh.
>
> So, the configuration of each host is determined by installation (e.g.
> full configuration) followed by a sequence of task scripts (e.g.
> differential configuration)?
Yes, this is basically what something like salt does under the hood.
So things like postfix/dovecot or postgresql or yadifa/unbound
are going to need a bunch of post install actions. You can write them
in the CMS DSL or you can write them in whatever you like. I detest
sh(1) for anything complex, but realized that simple sh(1) is
just fine for almost everything in configuration space.
>
> What if a script fails?
Fail stop. A failure needs a postmortem, and then a response.
Best to halt on first failure.
>
> Rollback?
I thought this might be important when I was starting out but for my
non-mission-critical stance, I rely on fail stop.
I ought to state explicitly that watching py-salt fail,
made me realize that rollback only works if you have the resources to
do 2-phase deployment. You've got to vet that the deployment will
(should?) succeed in a test environment first. Could be live, but it's
still a test environment. I should also add that rollback is
part of an audited infrastructure, and no, the overhead of that
is something that I am not going to worry about as the sole
person responsible for my infrastructure. Add significant
money and of course it is required.
>
>
> Idempotentcy?
Cattle, not pets? Yeah, I do care about this. Things like sysrc(8)
are helpful here, but I still don't have a good password file
management story. Basically I bring a big hammer to the job if
it looks complex: if things fail, stop. Triage and then fix
the script(s), and then restart from the beginning.
>
> Do you record what scripts have run for each host, and the outcome?
I should; when I have been paid to make things succeed, I always did.
But for my personal systems, nope, fail stop, then triage. Never had
a reason to regret that. I did regret all the time on py-salt, before
I rebuilt using the lessons it taught me.
>
> How do you determine the configuration of a host at some point in the past?
That's what the git repo is for.
>
> What if you perform configuration tasks by hand?
I think this is a great idea when you're just starting out, or you are
deploying a new software configuration, etc. Automate what you already
understand.
Great questions! HTH,
Russell
>
> David
>
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On 10/10/21 20:25, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> Hi David,
Hello. :-)
> Great questions! HTH,
As a coder, it's always good to hear the experiences of people who "eat
their own dogfood". Thanks for sharing. :-)
David
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Op 10-10-2021 om 21:20 schreef David Christensen:
> On 10/10/21 08:31, tech-lists wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> What, in the opinion of the list, is the best software for
>> orchestrating configs on freebsd & linux (mainly ubuntu or other
>> debian-based distro).
>>
>> offhand, I know of puppet but have never much used it. thanks,
I use saltstack to do exactly this: I administer a myriad of freebsd and
linux boxes.
The entire configuration repository is in gitlab, and salt distributes
it from there. I even do my package upgrades on both environments with
one 'push on the button'.
--
Peter
It never hurts to help
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On 10/11/21 7:29 AM, Peter Boosten via questions wrote:
> I use saltstack to do exactly this:
Hello.
Since I've choosen Salt too (after trying Ansible and ditching it) and
I'm (slowly) starting with it, can I ask which documentation you used or
would reccomend?
I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I
always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g.
providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big picture).
bye & Thanks
av.
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Hello,
The suggestion below has sent shivers down my spine.
I generally decided against running -STABLE version of FreeBSD because it
involved compiling userland and kernel.
>From the response below from a bugzilla issue:
1. You have updated to the original 13.0 release which does indeed have
the problem that you note.
2. You need to update to the stable/13 release which has the fix in it.
(a) You can either check out the stable/13 branch from git and build it
yourself
(b) Or you can download the latest snapshot of stable/13 from
https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/13.0-STABLE/amd64/Latest
It seems that this is taking me back to the days of buildworld/kernel,
installworld/install kernel, no??
Or did I just misunderstand the recommendation? And what it entails??
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--- Comment #15 from Kirk McKusick <mckusick@FreeBSD.org> ---
(In reply to odhiambo@gmail.com from comment #14)
You have updated to the original 13.0 release which does indeed have the
problem that you note. You need to update to the stable/13 release which has
the fix in it. You can either check out the stable/13 branch from git and
build
it yourself. Or you can download the latest snapshot of stable/13 from
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Op 11-10-2021 om 09:22 schreef Andrea Venturoli:
> On 10/11/21 7:29 AM, Peter Boosten via questions wrote:
>
>> I use saltstack to do exactly this:
>
> Hello.
>
> Since I've choosen Salt too (after trying Ansible and ditching it) and
> I'm (slowly) starting with it, can I ask which documentation you used
> or would reccomend?
>
> I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I
> always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g.
> providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big
> picture).
>
>
There's an ebook called 'Learning SaltStack Second Edition' which can be
downloaded freely (not sure if legal, btw):
https://www.programmer-books.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Learning-SaltStack-Second-Edition.pdf
Using this knowledge I tried to figure out how Security Onion does its
stuff (SO is completely configured with SaltStack, creates docker
images, keeps track of their states, and configures them) and then
you'll experience the real power of it.
And it helps when you have a walking SaltStack encyclopedia/nerd as your
colleague :)
But I would recommend starting with the book.
--
Met vriendelijke groet/Kind regards
Peter Boosten
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It never hurts to help
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Hello world :-)
I have problem running Intel Bluetooth adapter that seems to be a part
of Intel WiFi AC7265 card (wifi works fine). This VID/PID seems to be
already inside ng_ubt module.
I have tried iwmbt-firmware with iwmbtfw utility but no success.
Running 13.0-STABLE.
# uname -a
FreeBSD 0xCFMX4 13.0-STABLE FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE #1
stable/13-n247289-13b194766e2: Wed Sep 15 02:49:53 CEST 2021
root@0xCFMX4:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64
# hccontrol -n ubt0hci inquiry
hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes
# hccontrol inquiry
hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes
# usbconfig
(...)
ugen0.6: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA)
# grep -ri 0x0a2a /usr/src/*
(...)
sys/netgraph/bluetooth/drivers/ubt/ng_ubt_intel.c: {
USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_INTEL2, 0x0a2a, UBT_INTEL_DEVICE_7260) },
# iwmbtfw -D -d ugen0.6
main: opening dev 0.6
iwmbtfw: main: device not found
iwmbtfw: main: Firmware download failed!
I even tried providing every single firmware file in a scripted loop
but none matches.
Did anyone run this interface with success on FreeBSD? :-)
Any hints appreciated :-)
Tomek
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On 10/11/21 14:30, Peter Boosten via questions wrote:
>> I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I
>> always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g.
>> providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big
>> picture).
Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage
jails?
Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a
way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing
specific jail commands to base?
bye & Thanks
av.
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Am 11.10.2021 um 20:54 schrieb Andrea Venturoli:
> Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage
> jails?
> Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a
> way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing
> specific jail commands to base?
I also just started to read the manual, but it seems that jail support
is existing:
https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=011515552685726825874:ht0p8miksrm&q=jail
I'm not sure if maybe CBSD is a better to to manage your jails and VMs
and then maybe use salt to do the rest.
Gruß
Matthias
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:00 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote:
>
> Hello world :-)
>
> I have problem running Intel Bluetooth adapter that seems to be a part
> of Intel WiFi AC7265 card (wifi works fine). This VID/PID seems to be
> already inside ng_ubt module.
>
> I have tried iwmbt-firmware with iwmbtfw utility but no success.
> Running 13.0-STABLE.
>
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD 0xCFMX4 13.0-STABLE FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE #1
> stable/13-n247289-13b194766e2: Wed Sep 15 02:49:53 CEST 2021
> root@0xCFMX4:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64
>
> # hccontrol -n ubt0hci inquiry
> hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes
> # hccontrol inquiry
> hccontrol: Could not find HCI nodes
>
> # usbconfig
> (...)
> ugen0.6: at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA)
>
> # grep -ri 0x0a2a /usr/src/*
> (...)
> sys/netgraph/bluetooth/drivers/ubt/ng_ubt_intel.c: {
> USB_VPI(USB_VENDOR_INTEL2, 0x0a2a, UBT_INTEL_DEVICE_7260) },
>
> # iwmbtfw -D -d ugen0.6
> main: opening dev 0.6
> iwmbtfw: main: device not found
> iwmbtfw: main: Firmware download failed!
>
> I even tried providing every single firmware file in a scripted loop
> but none matches.
>
> Did anyone run this interface with success on FreeBSD? :-)
>
> Any hints appreciated :-)
> Tomek
Allright, the new version of iwmbtfw from git supports 72XX BT
interfaces and the firmware directory needs to be specified:
iwmbtfw -D -d ugen0.3 -f /usr/local/share/iwmbt-firmware/
Also the /etc/devd/iwmbtfw.conf needs a tiny update so it also flashes
firmware to PID=0x0a2a automaticaly with devd:
match "product" "(0x0a2a|0x0a2b|0x0aaa|0x0025|0x0026|0x0029)";
Thank you for this stuff ! :-)
--
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
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> Op 11 okt. 2021, om 20:54 heeft Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it> het =
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>=20
> Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage =
jails?
> Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a =
way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing =
specific jail commands to base?
>=20
> bye & Thanks
> av.
>=20
I actually did install minions in every jail (17!). For me the choice =
was easy: either perform a =E2=80=98pkg -j <jail-id> upgrade=E2=80=99 17 =
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And this is only one of the advantages. I have several directories =
getting updates from git, and performing a =E2=80=9Chighstate=E2=80=9D =
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But of course you pay the price in used memory and CPU cycles.=20
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> Op 11 okt. 2021, om 21:43 heeft Matthias Fechner <idefix@fechner.net> =
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> Am 11.10.2021 um 20:54 schrieb Andrea Venturoli:
>> Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you =
manage jails?
>> Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find =
a way to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing =
specific jail commands to base?=20
>=20
> I also just started to read the manual, but it seems that jail support =
is existing:
> https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=3D011515552685726825874:ht0p8miksrm&q=3Dja=
il
>=20
That=E2=80=99s a different kind of jail-commands Andrea is probably =
referring to: these are used to manage the jail configuration on the =
jail-host, while Andrea was talking about configuration _in_ the jail. =
However, I didn=E2=80=99t know of this module before, so thanks. The =
modular approach however is very useful: so do I use the docker module =
to create/maintain containers which will restart automatically when the =
configuration changes. The yaml files make creating containers quite =
fun.
> I'm not sure if maybe CBSD is a better to to manage your jails and VMs =
and then maybe use salt to do the rest.
Never heard of CBSD, but this looks to me like another jail manager, =
like ezjail.
Peter
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On 10/12/21 07:37, freebsd@boosten.org wrote:
> I actually did install minions in every jail (17!).
<:-O
> But of course you pay the price in used memory and CPU cycles.
... and disk space, etc...
Really, I tried this and I'm not going back to it :(
bye & Thanks
av.
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Hello,=20
I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
to route the traffic over the vpn Network?
My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts=20
file but it will not work.
Is there a chance to make it with pf?
Thank you for ideas.=20
Silvio
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> Op 12 okt. 2021, om 08:04 heeft Silvio Siefke <siefke_listen@web.de> =
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> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
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> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with =
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> Is there a chance to make it with pf?
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Is this inbound or outbound?
For outbound, you just could deliver your outgoing mail to the =
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Inbound is a bit more difficult: I solved that once by having a service =
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I want to start a java jar file from inetd in FreeBSD 12.
It seems I need to do this with the command java -jar xxx.jar,
since I can't find a way to get direct execution of jar files.
The java -jar method works fine, but the problem is that xxx.jar
needs to know the IP address of the connecting client, and it should
get that via the function System.inheritedChannel(), but it doesn't.
Could it be that the java -jar start method in inetd doesn't transfer
the client socket to xxx.jar?
Anyway, that's why I wonder if there is a way to start xxx.jar without
java -jar.
Thanks!
Peter
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Please see the following page :
https://apropos-logic.com/books/wci/
Writing Compilers and Interpreters (3rd edition): A Software Engineering
Approach
In that page , the following parts :
Download
Compile
Run
with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javac
javac
Perhaps , the information in these pages may be useful for you to design
your solution .
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:49 PM <list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se> wrote:
> I want to start a java jar file from inetd in FreeBSD 12.
>
> It seems I need to do this with the command java -jar xxx.jar,
> since I can't find a way to get direct execution of jar files.
>
> The java -jar method works fine, but the problem is that xxx.jar
> needs to know the IP address of the connecting client, and it should
> get that via the function System.inheritedChannel(), but it doesn't.
>
> Could it be that the java -jar start method in inetd doesn't transfer
> the client socket to xxx.jar?
>
> Anyway, that's why I wonder if there is a way to start xxx.jar without
> java -jar.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Peter
>
>
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Hi,
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 08:04:54AM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
>to route the traffic over the vpn Network?
>
>My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts
>file but it will not work.
>
>Is there a chance to make it with pf?
I don't think you can vpn it unless you're in charge of the real
external vpn ip, and it's a static ip.
If it's to receive periodic(8) email from the vm then set up a mail server=
=20
as usual and configure it to relay local email on port 587 to a smarthost,=
=20
or use something like dma(8) to accomplish the same thing. Then read the
email on whatever address you've aliased for root's email.
Alternatively, configure local delivery and read email on the vm=20
with something like mutt.
--=20
J.
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On 10/12/21 2:48 AM, list-freebsd-questions@jyborn.se wrote:
> I want to start a java jar file from inetd in FreeBSD 12.
>
> It seems I need to do this with the command java -jar xxx.jar,
> since I can't find a way to get direct execution of jar files.
>
> The java -jar method works fine, but the problem is that xxx.jar
> needs to know the IP address of the connecting client, and it should
> get that via the function System.inheritedChannel(), but it doesn't.
>
> Could it be that the java -jar start method in inetd doesn't transfer
> the client socket to xxx.jar?
>
> Anyway, that's why I wonder if there is a way to start xxx.jar without
> java -jar.
it really depends on how the Java program itself expects to be
executed. I have some spring-boot services that work fine when started
up via daemon(8) on FreeBSD. I actually use a wrapper shell script to
prepare the app's appropriate environment variables then just have it
execute "java -jar my-app.jar".
this should also work fine under inetd but i would be careful there as
often times spinning up the JRE is an expensive and time consuming
operations, so if possible i'd suggest just running as a long running
daemon.
from what you describe above it sounds like it may be a bug in the app
itself getting the IP addresses of clients.
-p
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Quite relevant to this discussion is today's
HN topic "Solo-preneurs, how do you DevOps to save time?"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838132
I see I'm not the only one who has fallen back to
"spooky arcane oldhat sysadmin deploy techniques"
I have to admit that I enjoyed watching my complex
saltstack automation work, until it didn't.
Russell
On 10/11/21 22:56, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
>
> On 10/12/21 07:37, freebsd@boosten.org wrote:
>
>> I actually did install minions in every jail (17!).
>
> <:-O
>
>
>
>> But of course you pay the price in used memory and CPU cycles.
>
> ... and disk space, etc...
>
> Really, I tried this and I'm not going back to it :(
>
>
>
> Â bye & Thanks
> Â Â Â Â av.
>
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> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 08:04:54AM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
>> to route the traffic over the vpn Network?
>>
>> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts
>> file but it will not work.
>>
>> Is there a chance to make it with pf?
>
>
No. 192.168.0.x is non-routable by definition. The only way around
this would be to have your perimeter firewall punch through stuff
from the outside coming in on port 25 to your VPS instance. This
is almost certainly not going to happen.
A better way is to find a free/cheap external mail provider that will
host mail for your domain. I believe namecheap.com will do it for $10 US/year
if you use them as your domain registrar. You can then use automation on
your FreeBSD box to poll the upstream server and pull in the inbound mail
on a regular cadence.
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On 10/12/21 8:01 AM, Tim Daneliuk via questions wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 08:04:54AM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
>>> to route the traffic over the vpn Network?
>>>
>>> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts
>>> file but it will not work.
>>>
>>> Is there a chance to make it with pf?
>>
> No. 192.168.0.x is non-routable by definition. The only way around
> this would be to have your perimeter firewall punch through stuff
> from the outside coming in on port 25 to your VPS instance. This
> is almost certainly not going to happen.
>
> A better way is to find a free/cheap external mail provider that will
> host mail for your domain. I believe namecheap.com will do it for $10 US/year
> if you use them as your domain registrar. You can then use automation on
> your FreeBSD box to poll the upstream server and pull in the inbound mail
> on a regular cadence.
>
>
I use pfSense with openvpn.
The remote links all carry 192.168.xx.xx addresses.
My internal network, behind my firewall, carries 192.0.2.x (old sunos test network... still not routable, but not one of the usual RFC networks. Developers lose their minds over this)
I use devices behind remote firewalls that carry 10.x.x.x and VPN back to my openvpn gateway.
Those devices ARE reachable via the VPN link and my 192.0.2.x network is reachable from them via the VPN link (192.168.xx.xx VPN link endpoint).
So to say that the RFC networks are absolutely unroutable is slightly not accurate.
Manually placing a route for an "unroutable" network is perfectly possible, if a bit odd. It's actually done all the time for commercial VPN networks (pulsesecure, Cisco etc
).
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On 2021-10-12 08:04, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
> to route the traffic over the vpn Network?
>
> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts
> file but it will not work.
>
> Is there a chance to make it with pf?
>
> Thank you for ideas.
>
> Silvio
>
I didn't fully understand your first paragraph but this is how I do it and I
hope I understood your question correctly. :)
My ISP blocks outgoing port 25 too (like most ISPs do these days). I have a VPS
on RamNode, who doesn't block anything, and I run my mail-server there. I
connect my LAN and that VPS through an OpenVPN tunnel and I can now send and
receive mail from any machine on my LAN with no problems.
In pf I just do a pass all on the tun interfaces but nothing stops you from
creating a rule that just pass the data on port 25/587.
Regards
Morgan
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On 10/12/21 16:39, Morgan Wesström wrote:
> On 2021-10-12 08:04, Silvio Siefke wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have VPS as webhost which blocked port 25 by ISP. Is there a chance
>> to route the traffic over the vpn Network?
>>
>> My Mailserver had the internal IP 192.168.0.109. I had try it with hosts
>> file but it will not work.
>>
>> Is there a chance to make it with pf?
>>
>> Thank you for ideas.
>>
>> Silvio
>>
>
> I didn't fully understand your first paragraph but this is how I do it
> and I hope I understood your question correctly. :)
>
> My ISP blocks outgoing port 25 too (like most ISPs do these days). I
> have a VPS on RamNode, who doesn't block anything, and I run my
> mail-server there. I connect my LAN and that VPS through an OpenVPN
> tunnel and I can now send and receive mail from any machine on my LAN
> with no problems.
>
> In pf I just do a pass all on the tun interfaces but nothing stops you
> from creating a rule that just pass the data on port 25/587.
We had a related discussion back in February about this and
the use of SMTP forwarders. I've been using duocircle's free tier
and it so far is perfect. If you're interested I think this might
be a good entry point in the archives:
https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=47674+0+archive/2021/freebsd-questions/20210307.freebsd-questions
Russell
>
> Regards
> Morgan
>
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On 11/10/2021 12:47, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> …
>
> 1. …
> 2. You need to update to the stable/13 release which has the fix in it.
> (a) 𠉧…
> (b) Or you can download the latest snapshot of stable/13 from
> https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/VM-IMAGES/13.0-STABLE/amd64/Latest
>
> …
>
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255979
>
> …
Probably not for Odhiambo's case, but where starting afresh with a
FreeBSD-provided image: it might be preferable to begin with
12.2-RELEASE then update, then upgrade to stable/13.
<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=259090>
UFS: bad file descriptor: soft update journaling can not be enabled on
FreeBSD-provided disk images for 13.0-RELEASE and 13.0-STABLE – failed
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 08:54:06PM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
>=20
> On 10/11/21 14:30, Peter Boosten via questions wrote:
>=20
> > > I think I like Salt, but when I try reading the official manuals, I
> > > always get the feeling the were written "the other way round" (e.g.
> > > providing a lot of nit-picky detail, but failing to give the big
> > > picture).
>=20
> Also, a thing I planned on asking since a long time: how do you manage
> jails?
> Of course I don't want to install a minion into each... did you find a way
> to target a jail directly in some way or are you just issuing specific ja=
il
> commands to base?
I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula
What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail? That's what I'm
doing here and it works well. There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to
install a minion
>=20
> bye & Thanks
> av.
>=20
--=20
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On 10/13/21 11:07, Julien Cigar wrote:
> I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula
Thanks, I'll look into it.
From the short description I think it doesn't suit my needs, but I'll
look better.
> What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail?
Overhead, mainly.
Having a lot of Salt process running consumes memory (which might be
scarce in older systems).
More packages to install/maintain/upgrade.
Etc...
> There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion
Might be better, although I guess it would need enabling SSH in every
jail (which is something I don't normally do).
I'll look into it anyway.
bye & Thanks a lot
Andrea Venturoli
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various
>userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most
>important element is a networked version control system.
I've only ever used cvs in a client context, so please forgive me for
asking a question that might seem daft - but is there a cvs server on
each machine you admin?
if yes, are there security issues associated with cvs?
thanks,
--=20
J.
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 02:49:57PM +0100, tech-lists wrote:
>On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>>I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various
>>userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most
>>important element is a networked version control system.
>
>I've only ever used cvs in a client context, so please forgive me for
>asking a question that might seem daft - but is there a cvs server on
>each machine you admin?
>
>if yes, are there security issues associated with cvs?
>
>thanks,
>--=20
>J.
ignore this i can see you've answered earlier in the thread
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Hi
I've tried searching for an authorative answer on this, but answers seem
to vary between Oracle-ZFS, FreeBSD-ZFS and OpenZFS, and nothing really
recent (context is recent stable/13)
Using zfs send -R data/home/foo/bar@20211013 | pv | ssh
remote.system zfs recv -dvu data/backup I can see it completes the
sending of the snapshot but I'll see this as it just finishes, at the
sending systems term:
cannot receive mountpoint property on data/backup/home/foo/bar
Is this just because the data/backup/home/foo/bar filesystem=20
was mounted on the sending system, and the snapshot inherited it?=20
In which case I guess it can be ignored? because I don't want it
mounted at the receiving end (it wasn't mounted at the receiving end)
For the received snapshot, all I care about is to be able to mount it
should I need it. But I won't usually need it.
thanks,
--=20
J.
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On 10/13/21 06:49, tech-lists wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 12:20:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>> I have a SOHO network that I administer using SSH, Vim, CVS, various
>> userland tools, and homebrew scripts (Bourne, Bash, and Perl). The most
>> important element is a networked version control system.
>
> I've only ever used cvs in a client context, so please forgive me for
> asking a question that might seem daft - but is there a cvs server on
> each machine you admin?
The CVS repository is in a jail on the server. It is not really a
service -- the clients connect via SSH and run the CLI.
Putting CVS in a jail on the server can and has complicated sysadmin
tasks when I need to work either or both the server and jail. A
dedicated machine without the jail would be simpler.
> if yes, are there security issues associated with cvs?
I think there are security issues no matter how you run CVS:
https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=442&product_id=0&version_id=0&page=1&hasexp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=20&sha=94cfaaf625f54f37acad68e891f591329feb2260
David
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Hello!
`pkg search ethtool' provides no suitable results. Is there any executable
in FreeBSD base system or ports which offers the same functionalities
(or similar ones) as ethtool in Linux?
Thank you,
Rocky
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On 10/13/21 9:16 AM, tech-lists wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've tried searching for an authorative answer on this, but answers seem
> to vary between Oracle-ZFS, FreeBSD-ZFS and OpenZFS, and nothing really
> recent (context is recent stable/13)
>
> Using zfs send -R data/home/foo/bar@20211013 | pv | ssh
> remote.system zfs recv -dvu data/backup
What is 'pv'?
Testing on a FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE VirtualBox VM:
2021-10-13 15:35:55 toor@vf1 ~
# freebsd-version ; uname -a
12.2-RELEASE-p9
FreeBSD vf1.tracy.holgerdanske.com 12.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD
12.2-RELEASE-p7 GENERIC amd64
2021-10-13 15:59:20 toor@vf1 ~
# zpool list | egrep 'NAME|vf1zpool'
NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP DEDUP
HEALTH ALTROOT
vf1zpool1 960M 2.36M 958M - - 15% 0% 1.00x
ONLINE -
vf1zpool2 960M 1.25M 959M - - 6% 0% 1.00x
ONLINE -
2021-10-13 15:58:54 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs create vf1zpool1/home
2021-10-13 15:59:13 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs create vf1zpool1/home/foo
2021-10-13 15:59:17 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs create vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar
2021-10-13 16:00:15 toor@vf1 ~
# echo "hello, world!" > /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar/hello.txt
2021-10-13 16:01:36 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs snapshot -r vf1zpool1@20211012
2021-10-13 16:05:13 toor@vf1 ~
# echo "goodbye, cruel, world!" > /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar/goodbye.txt
2021-10-13 16:06:31 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs snapshot -r vf1zpool1@20211013
2021-10-13 16:16:38 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs send -R vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 | zfs recv -dvu
vf1zpool2/backupcannot receive: specified fs (vf1zpool2/backup) does not
exist
Create the destination filesystem:
2021-10-13 16:17:54 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs create vf1zpool2/backup
Try again:
2021-10-13 16:18:31 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs send -R vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 | zfs recv -dvu
vf1zpool2/backup
receiving full stream of vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211012 into
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211012
received 48.5KB stream in 1 seconds (48.5KB/sec)
receiving incremental stream of vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 into
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211013
received 10.2KB stream in 1 seconds (10.2KB/sec)
2021-10-13 16:18:45 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs list -r -t all vf1zpool2
NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
vf1zpool2 1.52M 830M 88K /vf1zpool2
vf1zpool2/backup 456K 830M 96K
/vf1zpool2/backup
vf1zpool2/backup/home 360K 830M 96K
/vf1zpool2/backup/home
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo 264K 830M 96K
/vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar 168K 830M 112K
/vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211012 56K - 100K -
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211013 0 - 112K -
2021-10-13 16:19:03 toor@vf1 ~
# mount | grep vf1zpool | sort
vf1zpool1 on /vf1zpool1 (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool1/home on /vf1zpool1/home (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool1/home/foo on /vf1zpool1/home/foo (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar on /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool2 on /vf1zpool2 (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool2/backup on /vf1zpool2/backup (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool2/backup/home on /vf1zpool2/backup/home (zfs, local, nfsv4acls)
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo on /vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo (zfs, local,
nfsv4acls)
The replication worked. Note that the replica leaf directory 'bar' is
not mounted, but its parents are; per the zfs receive -u option.
If I try to replicate again:
2021-10-13 16:19:29 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs send -R vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 | zfs recv -dvu
vf1zpool2/backup
cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination
'vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar' exists
must specify -F to overwrite it
warning: cannot send 'vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211012': signal received
warning: cannot send 'vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013': Broken pipe
That failed, as it should; but not with the error message you are seeing
(below).
> I can see it completes the
> sending of the snapshot but I'll see this as it just finishes, at the
> sending systems term:
>
> cannot receive mountpoint property on data/backup/home/foo/bar
>
> Is this just because the data/backup/home/foo/bar filesystem was mounted
> on the sending system, and the snapshot inherited it?
> In which case I guess it can be ignored? because I don't want it
> mounted at the receiving end (it wasn't mounted at the receiving end)
>
> For the received snapshot, all I care about is to be able to mount it
> should I need it. But I won't usually need it.
>
> thanks,
Do you see the replica on the receiving system? E.g.:
# ssh remote.system zfs list -r -t all data/backup/home
David
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On 10/13/21 4:29 PM, Rocky Hotas wrote:
> Hello!
> `pkg search ethtool' provides no suitable results. Is there any executable
> in FreeBSD base system or ports which offers the same functionalities
> (or similar ones) as ethtool in Linux?
I think it really depends on what your specific use-case is.
I find that BSD ifconfig(8) covers most use cases for configuring
interfaces (both physical and virtual), and the sysctl interface is also
useful for pulling and setting device specific information. the latter
is usually well documented in the man page for the interface (see
if_em(4) for example).
it should be noted that ifconfig(8) on bsd's tends to do much more than
the old linux ifconfig and probably the new "ip" command as well.
finaly, netstat(1) is very helpful for viewing information about the
network stack itself, for example "netstat -m" to view memory stats.
-p
--
Pete Wright
pete@nomadlogic.org
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 14:45:58 -1000
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 3:52 AM parv/freebsd wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:20 PM parv/freebsd wrote:
>
> Hi me,
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:05 PM parv/freebsd wrote:
>>
>> (I have rearranged my quoted email)
>>
>> [CentOS 8 NFS v3 client sometimes prints ...]
>>
>>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0
>>> stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:0:672075]
>>>
>>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:10:672632]
>>>
>>> ...
>
>> How do I go about investigating or solve this?
>>
>> ...
>
>> I have collected tcpdump output on both server & client ...
>>
>> https://github.com/parv/centos8-nfs3-issue/
>>
> ...
>
> While trying to find if there is an update for CentOS 8 "nfs-utils"
> package, I came upon the thread on "linux-nfs" mailing list ...
>
> CPU lockup in or near new filecache code, 201912,
> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157599524312895&w=2 ;
>
> a patch, 201912,
> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157609449120027&w=2 ;
>
> more to come, 202001
> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157807452103938&w=2 ?
>
>
> Now the question is will the fix be available on CentOS 8 anytime
> soon, as above thread was concerned with, AIUI, kernel 5.5 (CentOS 8
> kernel is hovering around 4.18)?
>
> Not a FreeBSD issue anymore, however, seems like.
>
... not quite.
(In addition or stead of "uname -a", I should have mentioned
"freebsd-version
-kur" in hindsight.)
Moving to FreeBSD 12.2-p9 or -p10 did not solve issue of FreeBSD NFS v3
server
timing out on CentOS 8 client after ~13-14 minutes of file copying.
But going back to -p8 did; there were no more "CPU stuck", stack traces on
CentOS 8.
Update of -p9 brought changes to libcasper.
- parv
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 04:37:17PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>What is 'pv'?
sysutils/pv =3D pipe view monitor. It gives a progress bar and speed of
the data through the pipe. The command to send was via interactive
term and I wanted to see it max out my local LAN :D it's not
something i'd put in a script.
>The replication worked. Note that the replica leaf directory 'bar' is
>not mounted, but its parents are; per the zfs receive -u option.
Yes, that is the case here.
>That failed, as it should; but not with the error message you are seeing
>(below).
>Do you see the replica on the receiving system? E.g.:
>
># ssh remote.system zfs list -r -t all data/backup/home
Yes, it's all there. Maybe zfs recv needs to be told mountpoint=3Dnoauto
or something but my google-fu doesn't find it for recent stable/13 or
stable/12 or OpenZFS. There's a couple of threads in the forum about it
but they're for freebsd 9.x (and so no OpenZFS) and it doesn't appear=20
in the (stable/13) handbook in this sort of context. And IIRC the=20
forum threads didn't have a "fix" for it. I don't know if a fix is even
required. But I don't know why mountpoint should even be set, as it's a
snapshot.
--=20
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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:32:26 -1000
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Subject: Re: NFS v3 - FreeBSD 12 server connection getting timed out on CentOS
8 client- bug filed #259163
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:45 PM parv/freebsd wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 3:52 AM parv/freebsd wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:20 PM parv/freebsd wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:05 PM parv/freebsd wrote:
>>>
>>> (I have rearranged my quoted email)
>>>
>>> [CentOS 8 NFS v3 client sometimes prints ...]
>>>
>>>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0
>>>> stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:0:672075]
>>>>
>>>> Aug 21 08:31:04 [CLIENT] kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [kworker/u24:10:672632]
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>
>>> How do I go about investigating or solve this?
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>>> I have collected tcpdump output on both server & client ...
>>>
>>> https://github.com/parv/centos8-nfs3-issue/
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> While trying to find if there is an update for CentOS 8 "nfs-utils"
>> package, I came upon the thread on "linux-nfs" mailing list ...
>>
>> CPU lockup in or near new filecache code, 201912,
>> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157599524312895&w=2 ;
>>
>> a patch, 201912,
>> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157609449120027&w=2 ;
>>
>> more to come, 202001
>> https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=157807452103938&w=2 ?
>>
> ...
> Moving to FreeBSD 12.2-p9 or -p10 did not solve issue of FreeBSD NFS v3
>> server
>> timing out on CentOS 8 client after ~13-14 minutes of file copying.
>>
>> But going back to -p8 did; there were no more "CPU stuck", stack traces
>> on CentOS 8.
>>
>> Update of -p9 brought changes to libcasper
>>
>
Bug filed: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=259163
- parv
>
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:18:45AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
>=20
> On 10/13/21 11:07, Julien Cigar wrote:
>=20
> > I'm using Saltstack with https://github.com/silenius/jails-formula
>=20
> Thanks, I'll look into it.
> From the short description I think it doesn't suit my needs, but I'll look
> better.
>=20
(I'm the author of the formula)
The formula currently doesn't support zfs clones-like and/or send/recv=20
jails (it currently fetches everything).
>=20
>=20
> > What's wrong with installing a minion in each jail?
>=20
> Overhead, mainly.
> Having a lot of Salt process running consumes memory (which might be scar=
ce
> in older systems).
That's true, although a salt-minion process consumes only ~60MB. Unless
you have many many jails or older system with less RAM I would say
that memory usage is not an issue.
> More packages to install/maintain/upgrade.
You can handle this with an orchestration script or ...
> Etc...
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > There is salt-ssh too if you don't want to install a minion
>=20
> Might be better, although I guess it would need enabling SSH in every jail
> (which is something I don't normally do).
> I'll look into it anyway.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> bye & Thanks a lot
> Andrea Venturoli
>=20
--=20
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> Subject: Re: FreeBSD equivalent of ethtool
[...]
> I think it really depends on what your specific use-case is.
Sorry, I didn't specify it explicitly. In particular, `ethtool -d
<network_interface>', that is: dumping all the values in the internal
registers of the NIC.
> I find that BSD ifconfig(8) covers most use cases for configuring
> interfaces (both physical and virtual), and the sysctl interface is also
> useful for pulling and setting device specific information. the latter
> is usually well documented in the man page for the interface (see
> if_em(4) for example).
So, maybe I can look in sysctl or ifconfig(8), if they also allow the
register dumping.
> it should be noted that ifconfig(8) on bsd's tends to do much more than
> the old linux ifconfig and probably the new "ip" command as well.
Yes, the BSD one is a very different and complex tool.
Rocky
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On 10/13/21 6:12 PM, tech-lists wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 04:37:17PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>
>> What is 'pv'?
>
> sysutils/pv = pipe view monitor. It gives a progress bar and speed of
> the data through the pipe. The command to send was via interactive
> term and I wanted to see it max out my local LAN :D it's not
> something i'd put in a script.
>
>> The replication worked. Note that the replica leaf directory 'bar' is
>> not mounted, but its parents are; per the zfs receive -u option.
>
> Yes, that is the case here.
>
>> That failed, as it should; but not with the error message you are seeing
>> (below).
>
>> Do you see the replica on the receiving system? E.g.:
>>
>> # ssh remote.system zfs list -r -t all data/backup/home
>
> Yes, it's all there. Maybe zfs recv needs to be told mountpoint=noauto
> or something but my google-fu doesn't find it for recent stable/13 or
> stable/12 or OpenZFS. There's a couple of threads in the forum about it
> but they're for freebsd 9.x (and so no OpenZFS) and it doesn't appear in
> the (stable/13) handbook in this sort of context. And IIRC the forum
> threads didn't have a "fix" for it. I don't know if a fix is even
> required. But I don't know why mountpoint should even be set, as it's a
> snapshot.
Have you checked the 'mountpoint' properties on the source and on the
receiver?
2021-10-14 12:34:25 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs get -r mountpoint vf1zpool1/home
NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE
vf1zpool1/home mountpoint /vf1zpool1/home
default
vf1zpool1/home@20211012 mountpoint - -
vf1zpool1/home@20211013 mountpoint - -
vf1zpool1/home/foo mountpoint /vf1zpool1/home/foo
default
vf1zpool1/home/foo@20211012 mountpoint - -
vf1zpool1/home/foo@20211013 mountpoint - -
vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar mountpoint /vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar
default
vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211012 mountpoint - -
vf1zpool1/home/foo/bar@20211013 mountpoint - -
2021-10-14 12:35:21 toor@vf1 ~
# zfs get -r mountpoint vf1zpool2/backup
NAME PROPERTY VALUE
SOURCE
vf1zpool2/backup mountpoint /vf1zpool2/backup
default
vf1zpool2/backup/home mountpoint
/vf1zpool2/backup/home default
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo mountpoint
/vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo default
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar mountpoint
/vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar default
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211012 mountpoint -
-
vf1zpool2/backup/home/foo/bar@20211013 mountpoint -
-
Taking the idea one step further -- dump all of the properties to a file
on the sender, do the same on the receiver, and then diff(1) the files.
Same as above for the pool properties.
Have you tried replicating from the receiver?
Have you tried reproducing the issue with a 13.0-RELEASE sender and/or
receiver?
David
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I'm running a software terminal server on Raspberry Pi 3s using FTDI->RJ45 =
serial cables. Presently running FreeBSD 12.1, but honestly, version doesn'=
t matter as I can move to anything, including 13.
It appears there is some upper limit that is keeping the number of devices =
I can connect to 20. When I add another device, I get the message "usbus0: =
No free USB device index for new device". This lets me track it bak to usb_=
device.c.
>From there, however, it seems to spread out to a number of possible values =
- EHCI_MAX_DEVICES, XHCI_MAX_DEVICES, OHCI_MAX_DEVICES, etc, based on the =
controller and instance. It eventually seems to reconverge on USB_MAX_DEVIC=
ES, which appears to be 128 in most cases.
Before I go and blow an overnight building an updated kernel on a Pi, I'm c=
urious if anyone can tell me if just bumping up USB_MAX_DEVICES will get me=
a handful more ports - say, setting it to 160 or 192 - or if I'm just goin=
g to start breaking things, and the "right answer" (tm) is to start breakin=
g up the hardware at, say, 16 ports each to stay under the limits?
-Brian
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