From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Sun Apr 18 21:00:02 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6A05F4FD1 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FNj4y0lyRz4XKy for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1840C5F519C; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180ED5F5293 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FNj4y0Dnzz4X46 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF5D212ABF for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 13IL01Dk008556 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:01 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 13IL01Jl008555 for xfce@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:01 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202104182100.13IL01Jl008555@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: xfce@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for xfce@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:00:02 -0000 To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 240810 | x11-wm/xfce4-session: x11/xscreensaver Has same n 1 problems total for which you should take action. 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ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dons.net.au:s=default]; RBL_SENDERSCORE_FAIL(0.00)[2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00:server fail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[xfce@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dons.net.au:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dons.net.au,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4764, ipnet:2403:5800:5000::/36, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[xfce] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 02:56:41 -0000 Hi, I had to recompile xfce4-terminal for a client because they weren't = getting UPS notifications (via wall) - I had to add '--with-utempter' to = 'CONFIGURE_ARGS'. This system is a bit old but it seems the current port does not have = that flag either (although I am not sure if perhaps it would be auto = detected in the latest ports). If it isn't picked up, can the flag be added to the port? With that done = it because a user configuration item (defaults to off though it seems). -- Daniel O'Connor "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 07:44:56 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A61A5E9C1C for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPbLc0vfpz3vyp for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1F0905E9A71; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED575E997D for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPbLb6w9gz3vkp for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPbLS32zdz6dQP; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:44:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 3T0tQaogHngp; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:44:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: XFCE terminal + utempter To: Daniel O'Connor , "xfce@freebsd.org" References: From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 09:44:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FPbLb6w9gz3vkp X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:44:56 -0000 On 20/04/21 04:56, Daniel O'Connor via freebsd-xfce wrote: > Hi, > I had to recompile xfce4-terminal for a client because they weren't getting UPS notifications (via wall) - I had to add '--with-utempter' to 'CONFIGURE_ARGS'. While I understand the need this looks like an ancient way of doing such things. Also if I have ten terminal windows open I'd get ten notifications? > > This system is a bit old but it seems the current port does not have that flag either (although I am not sure if perhaps it would be auto detected in the latest ports). > > If it isn't picked up, can the flag be added to the port? With that done it because a user configuration item (defaults to off though it seems). It is not automatically detected. Upstream has the flag off by default and the port is simply leaving it there. Just looking at the xfce4-terminal configure file I'm not sure how you got it working though, since the configure file does not look for the correct library on FreeBSD. ( at least according to utempter_add_record(3) ) Please notice I am not an expert on utmp/wtmp/utmpx and such so I'm not sure of the implications right away, I need research to get a clear understanding. Anyway I can do some testing, but I'd rather avoid any default behaviour changes, so I'd evaluate adding this as an option turned off by default. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 07:58:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B43D5E9F4A for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPbdh142Fz3wQc for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 249475EA1FA; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245C75EA1F9 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (midget.dons.net.au [IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "dons.net.au", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPbdg49N2z3w5k for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 13K7vlgA024635 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:27:47 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by midget.dons.net.au (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 13K7vWAl024624 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:27:32 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) X-MIMEDefang-Relay-f0f0b4ff001831caa5b8ac39868c4c7e9b4d12fc: 2001:44b8:1d2:8900:ad47:dea5:ead1:1cf7 Received: from [IPv6:2001:44b8:1d2:8900:ad47:dea5:ead1:1cf7] ([IPv6:2001:44b8:1d2:8900:ad47:dea5:ead1:1cf7] [2001:44b8:1d2:8900:ad47:dea5:ead1:1cf7]) by midget.dons.net.au (envelope-sender ) (MIMEDefang) with ESMTP id 13K7vWIn024619; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:27:32 +0930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: XFCE terminal + utempter From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:27:32 +0930 Cc: "xfce@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <712C0AD2-EE1B-43C6-9853-C27B7BF834F6@dons.net.au> References: To: Guido Falsi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (*) No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HELO_NO_DOMAIN, RDNS_NONE, T_SPF_PERMERROR autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 on 10.0.2.1 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FPbdg49N2z3w5k X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 07:58:00 -0000 > On 20 Apr 2021, at 17:14, Guido Falsi wrote: > On 20/04/21 04:56, Daniel O'Connor via freebsd-xfce wrote: >> Hi, >> I had to recompile xfce4-terminal for a client because they weren't = getting UPS notifications (via wall) - I had to add '--with-utempter' to = 'CONFIGURE_ARGS'. >=20 > While I understand the need this looks like an ancient way of doing = such things. Also if I have ten terminal windows open I'd get ten = notifications? Yep, it's pretty old school. Personally I don't understand why the client wants it either since if = you are logged in locally you can *hear* the UPS beep, however.. For what it's worth xterm, tmux and SSHing in write utmp entries. This = means all those terminals get notifications (although you can suppress = them with 'mesg n'). >> This system is a bit old but it seems the current port does not have = that flag either (although I am not sure if perhaps it would be auto = detected in the latest ports). >> If it isn't picked up, can the flag be added to the port? With that = done it because a user configuration item (defaults to off though it = seems). >=20 > It is not automatically detected. Upstream has the flag off by default = and the port is simply leaving it there. OK. > Just looking at the xfce4-terminal configure file I'm not sure how you = got it working though, since the configure file does not look for the = correct library on FreeBSD. ( at least according to = utempter_add_record(3) ) Yes, I was a bit confused about that too, however it works in practise. > Please notice I am not an expert on utmp/wtmp/utmpx and such so I'm = not sure of the implications right away, I need research to get a clear = understanding. >=20 > Anyway I can do some testing, but I'd rather avoid any default = behaviour changes, so I'd evaluate adding this as an option turned off = by default. Even if it is compiled in it is still off until the user enables in the = preferences window. -- Daniel O'Connor "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 08:08:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBB15EA9E8 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPbsh4cgPz4R9g for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9E82A5EAA70; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4FF5EAEB3 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPbsg5jyBz4R9f for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPbsf1pR9z6dSn; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id KdxBYQLH9yhX; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:08:19 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: XFCE terminal + utempter To: Daniel O'Connor , "xfce@freebsd.org" References: From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <1fa947fe-c114-2304-0a74-9a1f145fbb62@madpilot.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:08:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FPbsg5jyBz4R9f X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[159.69.1.99:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[madpilot.net:s=bjowvop61wgh]; RBL_SENDERSCORE_FAIL(0.00)[159.69.1.99:server fail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[159.69.1.99:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[madpilot.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[madpilot.net,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[xfce] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:08:24 -0000 On 20/04/21 09:44, Guido Falsi via freebsd-xfce wrote: > On 20/04/21 04:56, Daniel O'Connor via freebsd-xfce wrote: >> Hi, >> I had to recompile xfce4-terminal for a client because they weren't >> getting UPS notifications (via wall) - I had to add '--with-utempter' >> to 'CONFIGURE_ARGS'. [...] >> >> This system is a bit old but it seems the current port does not have >> that flag either (although I am not sure if perhaps it would be auto >> detected in the latest ports). >> >> If it isn't picked up, can the flag be added to the port? With that >> done it because a user configuration item (defaults to off though it >> seems). [...] > > Please notice I am not an expert on utmp/wtmp/utmpx and such so I'm not > sure of the implications right away, I need research to get a clear > understanding. For some context: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13710 After reading this I'm less worried about enabling the feature. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 10:42:30 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC2B5F0491 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPgHV3ZY3z4ZZf for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7AC815F00D3; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9315F0490 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPgHV2PTbz4Zcq for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPgHS0H6Xz6dQP; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:42:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ifAFIkx_lMcB; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:42:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: XFCE terminal + utempter To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: "xfce@freebsd.org" References: <712C0AD2-EE1B-43C6-9853-C27B7BF834F6@dons.net.au> From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <39ebecbb-5839-0d88-b1ad-01ed4ddd4ec9@madpilot.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:42:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <712C0AD2-EE1B-43C6-9853-C27B7BF834F6@dons.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FPgHV2PTbz4Zcq X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:42:30 -0000 On 20/04/21 09:57, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > >> On 20 Apr 2021, at 17:14, Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 20/04/21 04:56, Daniel O'Connor via freebsd-xfce wrote: >> Just looking at the xfce4-terminal configure file I'm not sure how you got it working though, since the configure file does not look for the correct library on FreeBSD. ( at least according to utempter_add_record(3) ) > > Yes, I was a bit confused about that too, however it works in practise. I found out we do have a link from libutempter to libulog, so this explains how it can compile and run. > >> Please notice I am not an expert on utmp/wtmp/utmpx and such so I'm not sure of the implications right away, I need research to get a clear understanding. >> >> Anyway I can do some testing, but I'd rather avoid any default behaviour changes, so I'd evaluate adding this as an option turned off by default. > > Even if it is compiled in it is still off until the user enables in the preferences window. > I noticed. I'm proceeding with some testing, I'm now convinced that turning this on is the correct thing to do. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 10:48:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7584D5F059C for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPgQj1pm9z4ZMk for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3E2025F059B; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE605F04D0 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (midget.dons.net.au [IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "dons.net.au", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPgQh5S6Jz4ZKB for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 13KAmHb1046746 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:18:31 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by midget.dons.net.au (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 13KAm8ul046740 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:18:08 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) X-MIMEDefang-Relay-f0f0b4ff001831caa5b8ac39868c4c7e9b4d12fc: 2403:5800:5101:0:4932:71d9:224d:f9f1 Received: from [IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:4932:71d9:224d:f9f1] ([IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:4932:71d9:224d:f9f1] [2403:5800:5101:0:4932:71d9:224d:f9f1]) by midget.dons.net.au (envelope-sender ) (MIMEDefang) with ESMTP id 13KAm8Uh046735; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:18:08 +0930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: XFCE terminal + utempter From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <39ebecbb-5839-0d88-b1ad-01ed4ddd4ec9@madpilot.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:18:08 +0930 Cc: "xfce@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2EB0F6D9-720E-4B19-AA38-A0F93C53D1C7@dons.net.au> References: <712C0AD2-EE1B-43C6-9853-C27B7BF834F6@dons.net.au> <39ebecbb-5839-0d88-b1ad-01ed4ddd4ec9@madpilot.net> To: Guido Falsi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Spam-Score: -1 () No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 on 10.0.2.1 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FPgQh5S6Jz4ZKB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 10:48:45 -0000 > On 20 Apr 2021, at 20:12, Guido Falsi wrote: >=20 > On 20/04/21 09:57, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >>> On 20 Apr 2021, at 17:14, Guido Falsi wrote: >>> On 20/04/21 04:56, Daniel O'Connor via freebsd-xfce wrote: >>> Just looking at the xfce4-terminal configure file I'm not sure how = you got it working though, since the configure file does not look for = the correct library on FreeBSD. ( at least according to = utempter_add_record(3) ) >> Yes, I was a bit confused about that too, however it works in = practise. >=20 > I found out we do have a link from libutempter to libulog, so this = explains how it can compile and run. Ahh that would explain it. >>> Please notice I am not an expert on utmp/wtmp/utmpx and such so I'm = not sure of the implications right away, I need research to get a clear = understanding. >>>=20 >>> Anyway I can do some testing, but I'd rather avoid any default = behaviour changes, so I'd evaluate adding this as an option turned off = by default. >> Even if it is compiled in it is still off until the user enables in = the preferences window. >=20 > I noticed. I'm proceeding with some testing, I'm now convinced that = turning this on is the correct thing to do. Great :) -- Daniel O'Connor "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Tue Apr 20 22:02:26 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E15C5EB2A5 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FPyN20jwzz3ndF for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 189255EB388; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185A95EB2A4 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FPyN16jVyz3ndD for ; 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REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:02:26 -0000 On 20/04/21 12:48, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > Great :) > Committed in hash 4e648b520916 -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Wed Apr 21 00:26:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8A25EF1D7 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FQ1Yk3zz7z3vDs for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 88E9A5EF1D6; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: xfce@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B125EF111 for ; 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Wed, 21 Apr 2021 09:55:31 +0930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: XFCE terminal + utempter From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <0f3fce78-d871-8442-8334-711222f5fda3@madpilot.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 09:55:31 +0930 Cc: "xfce@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <692D4A93-2133-439A-92F4-74F838205B27@dons.net.au> References: <712C0AD2-EE1B-43C6-9853-C27B7BF834F6@dons.net.au> <39ebecbb-5839-0d88-b1ad-01ed4ddd4ec9@madpilot.net> <2EB0F6D9-720E-4B19-AA38-A0F93C53D1C7@dons.net.au> <0f3fce78-d871-8442-8334-711222f5fda3@madpilot.net> To: Guido Falsi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Spam-Score: -1 () No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 on 10.0.2.1 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FQ1Yk01W8z3vNJ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:26:03 -0000 > On 21 Apr 2021, at 07:32, Guido Falsi wrote: > > On 20/04/21 12:48, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > >> Great :) > > Committed in hash 4e648b520916 Thanks very much Guido! -- Daniel O'Connor "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum