From nobody Fri Dec 3 11:07:37 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E8818BB382; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 11:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gubai2559@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb41.google.com (mail-yb1-xb41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J595v4vTMz4rZN; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 11:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gubai2559@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb41.google.com with SMTP id e136so8221401ybc.4; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 03:07:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OS+FrGULpWfSDu9oR02FsoIXudh5WYGCUZ2o9Z3FGQI=; b=gU0vxiJtK4ELxyK88JVq3jinqIdGO0li4dCuYusVodBF5+T4X9+QgrpTNGbOfTZfUa 0ScU9cUGpa3XBuKjJon2dY11km0DAj/6z36gkeIr/GuO1U+iESIJw+GWb6JW0ACul5pa mYtot+qvqheWBQrGWdyJYN2MgDPOF/vV4tN/cZbACWchMmIEYGfZ1zviWQXeJi6ShOex yeWw9MOlDq5/Madp10KrQ4HRRTjgMrTVNO24wwAvEV7rSApHvZXq6rolqxaA6OEQaM66 DF5KqNr+q7jRhTwQQBy/4aI90Z2vPBP3JRftP1IEIBxvaz1wJTh+m1x8TpX8Eu0yT5Wg RKAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OS+FrGULpWfSDu9oR02FsoIXudh5WYGCUZ2o9Z3FGQI=; b=Z+igFSX9n7VjUVs3gSkx0pk4y7xhZJ6DxxSy4m5SKoVSiUhOT/uFINDbGqKDx7VnXl vlhvOrMY6do1DEmp078aE2Dn3bFP/N+c8ZEomsWU78BvLup22hh3gPCU96+hbuN/rch2 BpXrB62PtdjslInBsOKfeE8VvPf1PRektLf8i0dCItu88eT0LRGCqp0oQC8WBGxkBSSa MX83U6I097mgT76HRu4L+ZIqGUXVXWkAz5hMyCwtB6Do9dJHi3MW5Js3F4PVbU7l4FR0 2XMnwOIdaRQzLNrx5roUR5iDzQtFcMdOpBFNb4zXjn3/xOMf7cOW+KPrw7xF/6nFEuWQ JaQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531D/qpZru0li2d5suNqjFi+iMMeqmxUSslEK57A8s4dL4WTPViw nhU5J/piT1UiKVTy9dUwYdB2Q2wpYc6U965jPSgBMG5AQAMGqhlpoEs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJybhClVC/FSHNNPSmgqMhMZcMgIX8KtdXT71WyMnqTYvFvEIJv3UvZQ8kjCXuwPWHwtVhRdlJ1TUDWMnWmhV/c= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:724:: with SMTP id l4mr22679407ybt.544.1638529667121; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 03:07:47 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: kaik haven Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:07:37 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, lug@ustc.edu.cn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c3470805d23bea14" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J595v4vTMz4rZN X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=gU0vxiJt; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gubai2559@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b41 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gubai2559@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.18 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.82)[-0.822]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b41:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --000000000000c3470805d23bea14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello! We call ourselves the "FreeBSD Chinese Community", a team from China, and we have been working to get more people to use FreeBSD in China. Of course, we have encountered a lot of problems, such as: Chinese users always have trouble installing FreeBSD on their computers, because there is no official mirror site, and the closest one to mainland China is in Taiwan, and we have no way to connect to an official mirror site for policy reasons; there is no official documentation in Chinese for users to review, and the website for the official Chinese documentation translation project is There is no official Chinese documentation available to users, and the official Chinese documentation translation project website is inaccessible and unmanaged; there is no unified mainland China user group or foundation to help mainland FreeBSD users. We have contacted you and the University of Science and Technology of China LUG has offered to mirror FreeBSD and be one of the official mirror sites, but in the end, no one cared and it went away. Also, we would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China and contribute to the FreeBSD open source community by providing mirror sites, Chinese documentation translations, etc. for Chinese FreeBSD users in China. --000000000000c3470805d23bea14-- From nobody Fri Dec 3 17:50:15 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB4018AB02D; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 17:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J5L2J4Wj6z4syc; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 17:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@freebsd.org) Received: from phe.ftfl.ca.ftfl.ca (drmons0544w-156-34-187-65.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.ns.bellaliant.net [156.34.187.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jrm/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2DD74A963; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 17:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@freebsd.org) From: Joseph Mingrone To: kaik haven Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, lug@ustc.edu.cn Subject: Re: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China References: Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:50:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (kaik haven's message of "Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:07:37 +0800") Message-ID: <861r2tvaqw.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (berkeley-unix) List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638553816; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Tl2ZTth/VvWkXFyyoRla7usK2++nbJweOzr4o+RxsUE=; b=v74u2kokvd/YTpt4IDLfnFtG2WNbl1zEg54stQJYwDyPZNQuib6jRJEovuWC9p2t64u0jw HDAK0l4PalIw9wFl/pAxkVu7kMhE2wSfXhX8gMixYzbdjQoDhmELfXOWbELgRsN+YvjHpI beDjBhGBPL3DPlgblpjLfRQ85GBYSSo2EDpjUA1jGHNxKVFOsEi1NckqOgQMspWIf3LG6E ZXerTvhoFNbu45+Gmwnu4wCAbO4sNosnOYeTPyapJX5QKBZCPsJ5XpsSb9wH7utm+jMW/K RvrgB7o3jIWDKbAAQA/wbFIVpkuyrgWj6d8FC1BZTRlJe/l146rKP5/YRUodXA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638553816; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YF1IUcG2Nfh7WLX+fC9jC9oervXwc7o1kjvQvsN8Kk3ZVfP5zErkGpnNEQRmeDFD5CVFNN 34jn2ALQCrK4BEB2becYUe0UHDV2Q1RkOAr6r0Ao7kfjVjIhF/v/9RyX7GKfjCyyzjfCFv WVgIq3QtwmCEI7y5Dp9EVwR5mIymLvpxA5IV4Pbfv/CUq0GYSsgTZ1Y4QywAp0Ca+Cn+QT 0X7dUw0M2i2iYaOZwsdlxPMlj9dLZbefGBD5sEZ5i7aN4e3EiKnctw3DgSFEO0mYMmG65+ ByGrweAxT47e28mc6XCNho1rsiMuhU6NV6yT8ZRkyGKQqzbFnSHyykE6hEMZww== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N [Sorry if you receive this twice. I sent the original from the wrong address so it was blocked from the mailing lists.] On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 19:07, kaik haven wrote: > Hello! > We call ourselves the "FreeBSD Chinese Community", a team from China, and > we have been working to get more people to use FreeBSD in China. Of course, > we have encountered a lot of problems, such as: Chinese users always have > trouble installing FreeBSD on their computers, because there is no official > mirror site, and the closest one to mainland China is in Taiwan, and we > have no way to connect to an official mirror site for policy reasons; there > is no official documentation in Chinese for users to review, and the > website for the official Chinese documentation translation project is There > is no official Chinese documentation available to users, and the official > Chinese documentation translation project website is inaccessible and > unmanaged; there is no unified mainland China user group or foundation to > help mainland FreeBSD users. We have contacted you and the University of > Science and Technology of China LUG has offered to mirror FreeBSD and be > one of the official mirror sites, but in the end, no one cared and it went > away. > Also, we would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China and contribute to > the FreeBSD open source community by providing mirror sites, Chinese > documentation translations, etc. for Chinese FreeBSD users in China. Hello! Thank for the update on the "FreeBSD Chinese Community". We certainly appreciate any efforts to promote FreeBSD in China. There are official Chinese translations of the main page, the Handbook, and other documentation, however I am not able to gauge the quality. https://www.freebsd.org/zh-cn/ https://docs.freebsd.org/zh-cn/books/handbook/ We welcome translation updates. For anyone able and interested in contributing to documentation translation, here is a resource: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Doc/Translation/Weblate Are you saying that all these page are inaccessible from mainland China? Apologies if past queries were missed about hosing a FreeBSD mirror site at University of Science and Technology. We certainly care and if that would improve the situation for Chinese users it's very welcome. How can we help with that? Joe From nobody Fri Dec 3 19:15:46 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5A118ABB9C; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ygy@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J5MxB0VBcz3rgT; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ygy@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-wr1-f53.google.com (mail-wr1-f53.google.com [209.85.221.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: ygy) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0EFCBB93; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 19:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ygy@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-wr1-f53.google.com with SMTP id q3so7710855wru.5; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533DiO+sA1kZE0gR+gy1oLFnnMnvg5fdM2zo5MkG9LUuBxmx8aqY 8cZKmPTV7IEg5uYF79aHI3kVQkmZ6PwPzml/yE0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxcuY5RjF2fbyZSjjJ++6ZqOya9AMjeGSzDQEbV5xuZgbTRzYppCWNArGtVtIJL+5L0VklfSIxlDZ4eGW1ZtZE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:1c2:: with SMTP id t2mr22949768wrx.378.1638558956878; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 11:15:56 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86r1attun8.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> In-Reply-To: <86r1attun8.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> From: Guangyuan Yang Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:15:46 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Joseph Mingrone] Re: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China To: kaik haven Cc: Joseph Mingrone , Xin LI , Li-Wen Hsu , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, lug@ustc.edu.cn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638558958; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IElY9DnF1QYA97nPj+1v+dYrNlxWkbTEwbE2U/Jk1XE=; b=qKA+flxYZXYsfi4lP/Dk00HOj/MtbbxwSKh8NQVZBF/MD7RAo7h/CDB8jRf+IJ8sPf5vAV j53BunaqlhWWcsFAnzLkLeFu8XBiXHK77qpejb2UUycRg0tjtRM1vtfByO9HhbgThbUh6I 5Hl8ln3ZnLXmJwXoyQhh5IQRPA7WwLAbNXUUTsflsYg6ey/hy3IFVtI9b36/M5CkRszB+3 e2JQv/VHUfoKr7l4v9XY3LTBD3ctd3TXVgYwYJDCJiCdQ7hEg5Qq3VnNVZn1SyaPfDL1Ts fx9XwQUWBO81t0/KcMmrTbEO27TXgMyl9yKJ9qtwwQPQ33mocIZGWaUlVJgaSA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638558958; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OQvB6Duj0wOO/Q/y0tmFSRzsdZH5SXX27y5RHqtVMwUoZGv2jSdVtR9wm+uk2PNQnNGUrI lLsFuLEBWZJ9wyz1XIF3x58qbr96PJJgi4ZIyV+IMzwlF1yYofpBSvHglm1YxucyUsp5Lx 8mPontZL4GwR1zaeYYK18XDppCq/RS4oKaY2kW2oAsmTqLS1HPcfv1PsRtksI3OpI2I2u2 LBzhKCKlO4Tc1qBmGPnk941ji1uQ0jHFRl6Zp/jSq3axbzYH1BTmETiXda08UiBPSpWaiD t+O6xzOEHyshgONLBINKHdCIEpcPvaWxkWzz5D9lhusZ1D6HwY8xdcdZGiJAjA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Joseph Mingrone =E4=BA=8E2021=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=883=E6=97= =A5=E5=91=A8=E4=BA=94 13:23=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > Hi delphij@ and ygy@, > > I suspect you may have more knowledge on this subject than me. If there > is any chance of hosting a mirror site in mainland China, it would be > great for Chinese users and the Project. I'm told there are big > hurdles, but it may be possible. What do you think? Are you able to > help? Thanks Joe for looping me in - I CC'ed delphij@ (since the last CC was not successful) and lwhsu@ (for further mirror-related questions). > On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 19:07, kaik haven wrote: > > > We call ourselves the "FreeBSD Chinese Community", a team from China, a= nd > > we have been working to get more people to use FreeBSD in China. Of cou= rse, > > we have encountered a lot of problems, such as: Chinese users always ha= ve > > trouble installing FreeBSD on their computers, because there is no offi= cial > > mirror site, and the closest one to mainland China is in Taiwan, and we > > have no way to connect to an official mirror site for policy reasons; > > there is no unified mainland China user group or foundation to > > help mainland FreeBSD users. We have contacted you and the University o= f > > Science and Technology of China LUG has offered to mirror FreeBSD and b= e > > one of the official mirror sites, but in the end, no one cared and it w= ent > > away. I understand the hassle of trying to connect to an official mirror in mainland China. As far as I know, there are a couple of usable unofficial mirrors there (not an advice), including: - https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/ - https://mirrors.nju.edu.cn/ We also had extensive discussions about having official mirrors in mainland China in the past, however, we have concluded that it is currently not possible due to regulatory reasons - if anything changes, we'd be happy to revisit this. For the maintainers of unofficial mirrors, please feel free to let clusteradm@ know (and CC me) if there is anything we can do to help improve your experience. > > there is no official documentation in Chinese for users to review, and = the > > website for the official Chinese documentation translation project is T= here > > is no official Chinese documentation available to users, and the offici= al > > Chinese documentation translation project website is inaccessible and > > unmanaged This is not true. As jrm@ pointed out, we have an official website and document translation project in Simplified Chinese. Some of the content is outdated, but the project is still active and can be accessed in mainland China: - https://www.freebsd.org/zh-cn/ - https://docs.freebsd.org/zh-cn/books/handbook/ Anyone interested in contributing can simply register and start translating on the following page: - https://translate-dev.freebsd.org/ You can contact me for any further questions related to document translation, I am happy to provide any assistance for current and future contributors. Best, --=20 Guangyuan Yang ygy@FreeBSD.org From nobody Mon Dec 6 03:51:26 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E4C18B3994; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 03:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J6qH35wCkz3JcX; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 03:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@freebsd.org) Received: from phe.ftfl.ca.ftfl.ca (drmons0544w-156-34-187-65.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.ns.bellaliant.net [156.34.187.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jrm/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 543EB7F20; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 03:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@freebsd.org) From: Joseph Mingrone To: Jiawei Fu at USTC LUG Cc: lug@ustc.edu.cn, kaik haven , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, delphij@FreeBSD, ygy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China References: <861r2tvaqw.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 23:51:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jiawei Fu at USTC's message of "Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:26:59 +0800") Message-ID: <86y24yqtkx.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (berkeley-unix) List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1638762687; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4zBZZ1Tuq9ZhBu73JKyxnxNvTz5lkxRlIja4LHVGQkk=; b=ttOJQkfOd7on2Akh6aJyGoAnM2xIcQr2XWDwBUQE2IdrP3SmaHkXh3kIbP1YVHDQBn5NFq 12SdjFx2gYdwfiya1CEt0eVPBleDeWwiq2xDeVu3mwzPTV1nxQQekdwupVG3EMhyalwzTD +/DtfaVEUhOU0p8t81UGEQLqGEX60OUxRTPQSgd0P1vM3NbKxB4dkhbtBhjybuzCUD3oQ1 1IdcbBO45gQUdQGvoe7JCdLi8mdx1bMH/iJpcgE/go2l30eg5gFwFvO+TXJzNRBZe6ptnL JFoLfAgwxeepeBDvq+M6nUlCRkuC6JHadfWwhgQ56PCU8lwxe51Wkc21KWxJ9w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1638762687; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=vA02vmSiTZPscJ/dXajBSyrXHoAjup2WlRLPup3nHDPxI5oou2cwqXHf1NbETsZX0giXA0 tsZXZ9W/xE7igtxzOg9z9J+mbtjYRfpIG9vvpD8Ad4yKvYGX8XyaHuM+pRjVwgW/3ukpco r+jn9mpQ7+44OI7oQOdcGyYnn6iY46Ori4zyz0yxzCEDWQFyiNfi/IAW8FMmSQTIRLNeP2 aOUb1ZrI3611ky7GCd0iTibSQVXrwp4+dkyfXfBU77IaAcl0cOfUj2S5HvLgXS//1LrAgF fgAveNSP5kTuC+0zO6R8q8xbquGEepkfiyWJdLtqLiijegfbqUOfAv5Fa1WTeg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2021-12-04 at 15:26, Jiawei Fu at USTC LUG wrote: > Hi Joe, > I am from the maintenance team of mirrors.ustc.edu.cn, the mirror site > at University of Science and Technology of China (USTC). > Thank you for your prompt. I just checked all three links and > confirmed that they're all accessible from mainland China. > We're currently hosting an unofficial FreeBSD repository mirror ( > https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/freebsd/ ), and from your website we learn > that FreeBSD is not accepting new mirrors at this time, which was the > primary reason we refrained from applying for one. Also, we'd like to > note that a few years ago we declined Debian's CNAME for official > mirrors (ftp.cn.debian.org, ftp2.cn.debian.org) for precisely > regulatory reasons. > By the way, in case of any misunderstanding, we do *not* know or have > any affiliation with the original poster of this thread. > Linux User Group > University of Science and Technology of China > Homepage: https://lug.ustc.edu.cn/ > E-Mail: lug@ustc.edu.cn > Jiawei Fu (=E4=BB=98=E4=BD=B3=E4=BC=9F) Hi Jiawei (=E4=BB=98=E4=BD=B3=E4=BC=9F), It's good to know those unofficial mirrors are accessible and that https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/freebsd/ is available for Chinese FreeBSD users as well. I contacted the team that oversees our mirrors and they tentatively said that if the regulatory hurdles could be overcome, an official Chinese mirror is possible. If this is something that your group is interested in and equipped to handle, perhaps we could discuss details off-list. 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been helping out at Eu= roBSDCon 2015 in Stockholm too and visited the one 2016 in Serbia and the o= ne online last year, and the BSD Meetups in Stockholm so some people might = recognize=C2=A0me already, but never thinked about joining or posting to th= e mailing lists until now=C2=A0=C2=A0
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List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 20:56:40 +0300 Message-Id: <1056311644688600@sas8-94b1a863fa47.qloud-c.yandex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Jwyq72mv0z4tcY X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b="v+cdid/N"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yandex.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doariekna@yandex.com designates 2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:101 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doariekna@yandex.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.com:s=mail]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-chat@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a02:6b8:0:1000::/52]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-chat]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:208722, ipnet:2a02:6b8::/32, country:FI]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:101:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Your vote is not like paying your money into a proprietary-algorithm investing robo-advisor, an arbitrarily-managed mutual fund, a clothing subscription service, jelly of the month club, assorted farm produce delivery, or randomized donation giving fund. Even worse, imagine a purchase where your money cannot be tracked, because there is no log of the specific transactions, no delivery of the exact specified purchase, and no accountability. For decades, flaws in voting systems have been widely documented and frequently identified and exploited. Many countries have had widely reported fraud examples, court cases, and disputes. This past six years, the United States has had continuous discussion and news. United States Representative Mark Pocan, Senator Ron Wyden, Senator Amy Klobuchar, Senator Elizabeth Warren, and many others shared their concerns about vulnerabilities and a lack of transparency in the election technology industry. In particular, there were concerns with the few voting machine and software vendors used for 90% of all eligible voters. Many examples of fraud over many years had been highlighted. The book, "Securing the Vote: Protecting American Democracy" (2018), was a committee-driven analysis of election system problems, then-current technologies, and recommendations. This set of election researchers and famed computer scientists concluded "There is no realistic mechanism to fully secure vote casting and tabulation computer systems from cyber threats." Fifteen months ago, 59 computer scientists and specialists in election security (including consultants for the above book and many of which are your peers) were signatories for a statement again warning about security weaknesses in voting systems, advocating for better security for election systems, and recommending post-election risk-limiting audits. While the 2020 general election was still being counted in multiple states, they also collectively stated that no technical vulnerability had altered the outcome of any US election and that "no credible evidence has been put forth that supports a conclusion that the 2020 election outcome in any state has been altered through technical compromise." This could be considered disingenuous as many of their personal and professional writings were biased to one election outcome and they never shared any of their own research about how their previous elections issues or other fraud findings no longer applied. Since at least one of the signatories is someone I respect and have participated in projects with and had specifically and personally contributed to my own work, I was interested and more curious about this. I soon found a plethora of issues widely and extensively documented. I am your peer, your co-developer. I am honored to use your open source contributions and the entire Internet world uses software that I personally committed and contributed to. I spent time doing my own research, I collected data, I wrote simple analysis tools, and I found thousands and thousands of anomalies. For example, for one state: applications dated before possible, applications applied for after ballot was received, applications after deadlines, applications dated after ballots mailed out, applications dated after already processed, ballots dated before applications were submitted, ballots dated after original and extended deadlines, missing application dates, missing voter birthdates, missing voting district details, huge county or district variations in percentage of voters doing mail-in ballots, high percentage of unique surnames beyond normal citizen rates, many birth months and days matching application month and days, unknown or inconsistent party affiliations or application types, impossibly too old ages (such as 35 voters over 110 years old), voters born in 1800s (and not using default 1/1 type dates), over 3000 voters over 90 years old voted in primary election but not popular general election (even if all died, another 3000 voters would have aged up), and even an infant and young teenager voted. In one state, there appeared to be over 322 thousand unique voter identifiers for mail-in ballots in a primary election that did not exist in the general election a few months later. 22% of primary mail-in voters decided to vote in person (during pandemic), or died, or moved, or decided not to vote, or data was lost. Some counties had no or very few anomalies, while others had tens of thousands. The total number of voters should not effect whether one county has different quality assurance processes. Subsequent voter databases fixed typos or changed problem dates, but continued to introduce many more mistakes. Also anomalies were seen from 57 counties with 1.4 times one applicant party designation over the rest combined. Voter registration databases over several time periods with full identification details and dates for elections voted in had counties that weren't updated even for months after the specific general election. (So counties had many anomalies, many mistakes recorded in some records, while other databases chose not to record the same significant counties at all.) The documentation for the databases didn't cover the amount of provided details nor explain how anomalies were allowed or why there was significant missing data. Many attempted communications with county elections management staffs to gain clarifications and even FOIA documentation requests went unanswered. At least one state FOIA was responded to which provided several documents and elections email communications but specifically stated that the documentation for management to my specific areas were proprietary and could not be disclosed. This is just a small vague summary of my own research. I also reviewed many others' research. For example, one state's own contracted audit report appeared to be written and published many months after the state reported its results which was only a validation that software wasn't modified because their undisclosed SHA-256 values has not changed (and it didn't include the system kernel, other shared libraries, plugins, nor configuration files). This state provided no other public audit results other than this hash match. If quality and correctness is not a focus, if transparency is not a focus, then fraud is certainly easier. I want a standards setting process that is open to any technical contributor with the goal to provide debated, high quality, open documents on managing, implementing, and proving elections. I want competing open source softwares that are peer-reviewed, continually tested, and always audited for managing, implementing, and proving elections, Imagine the IETF and FreeBSD. The most significant problem in common elections is no identified individual tracking of voted selections within context of entire identified population's individual voted selections. If a single person's results can be shown by itself without all the others, you have no way to know if that vote is presented individually the real way, while counted a different way within the group. And if the entire target population of voters' individual identities and votes are not available, you have no idea if voters are excluded and phantom voters are inserted. The main arguments against disclosing identity with corresponding vote selections are coercion, harassment, and payoff for proving they voted the way another desired. Those are risks. What else can be done? I had defined a detailed proposal which includes public logging of every vote and merged votes and every decision with checksums and crypto-signatures at every step fully output for all to read or collect in near real-time. One uses non-easily-identifiable tokens provided both by the system and by the voter, where voters can track their own votes in the final results and intermediate stages. But this does not answer for the (many) others' tokens if they are real voters. Closed black-box elections can easily see that some percentage of a possible registered pool did not vote and can insert additional "tokens" with votes. (And using tokens can still be abused for proof for payments or coercion.) The original Internet was developed with the assumptions of trust and honor. It was soon seen there was no honor system and for 30 years, new -- even experimental -- Internet technologies have been overlayed over the former infrastructures to help prove identities of senders and recipients while also anonymizing and de-identifying communications, to encrypt communications, and more designed to not trust everything. There is no acceptable technical way for anonymous voting to be done via any way whether it is software or hand counted. Once the ballot is separated from the voter (without any link), you have no way to prove that any vote counts accurately represent the original voters decision. Currently, the assumption of checks and balances is done by multiple human monitors or software solutions. But again, this is faulty due to relying entirely on a honor system. Is there any way to have anonymous voting? What are your solutions? Who is openly designing and developing open standards and open source software for voting systems? Does anyone care? Do you like non-standardized, proprietary, closed-box elections? Using open source software, providing thousands of documents, thousands of eyeballs, and thousands of steps for hardening elections does not make an election correct. Any time there is a software, there is a bug. Any time there is a human, there is a flaw. 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The pandemic has not been kind to meetups and whatnot. I tried to get onto their mailing lists directly but only get nginx redirect errors. --67d1cf12c9e141c98d5f81512043029f Content-Type: text/html
Hello there,
What is the status of NYC*BUG these days? The pandemic has not been kind to
meetups and whatnot.

I tried to get onto their mailing lists directly but only get nginx redirect errors.

--67d1cf12c9e141c98d5f81512043029f-- From nobody Thu May 12 14:38:21 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E301AC5C7C for ; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [66.165.241.226]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.nomadlogic.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KzZCC0Sdfz4nqs for ; Thu, 12 May 2022 14:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomadlogic.org; s=04242021; t=1652366303; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=8nCDmkkAO8KeIRuhZUQbVIZK+/j8GLStRHADPWYxtt0=; b=j7uF+Frx1zEgPsA57R8O5mGiWk0n/g2MPRw7K8oS+c2C6Q9AcL6CyHB/vzdp9k+pVNaCuZ 0NvG1DQjOpmFHOD39zzSDswM1Vgm72L1By7ZQhNZ+0BM6RoD7GknYugVEim21YAPMaOM66 GUi5v4N9AWemJyCgXV5/ZKLih+ZVQmo= Received: from [192.168.1.160] (cpe-24-24-168-214.socal.res.rr.com [24.24.168.214]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 55f06acc (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Thu, 12 May 2022 14:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------fUTaUB1k8FG9Sn0x402xt01r" Message-ID: <2d8e24a5-ec75-54e3-e4ca-0e7cfd27e9ad@nomadlogic.org> Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 07:38:21 -0700 List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-chat List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.0 Subject: Re: nycbug status Content-Language: en-US To: Eric Melville , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: From: Pete Wright In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KzZCC0Sdfz4nqs X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nomadlogic.org header.s=04242021 header.b=j7uF+Frx; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=nomadlogic.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pete@nomadlogic.org designates 66.165.241.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pete@nomadlogic.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nomadlogic.org:s=04242021]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nomadlogic.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nomadlogic.org,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-chat]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29802, ipnet:66.165.240.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------fUTaUB1k8FG9Sn0x402xt01r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 5/12/22 05:31, Eric Melville wrote: > Hello there, > What is the status of NYC*BUG these days? The pandemic has not been > kind to > meetups and whatnot. > > I tried to get onto their mailing lists directly but only get nginx > redirect errors. > we are still active (i say we but i am virtual member having moved out of NYC some years ago).  there have been a handful of virtual meet-ups during the pandemic, and #nycbug on libera.chat is actually pretty active.  in fact i just pinged the admins there to verify the listserv is working, so hopefully it'll be back up shortly. -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA --------------fUTaUB1k8FG9Sn0x402xt01r Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 5/12/22 05:31, Eric Melville wrote:
Hello there,
What is the status of NYC*BUG these days? The pandemic has not been kind to
meetups and whatnot.

I tried to get onto their mailing lists directly but only get nginx redirect errors.


we are still active (i say we but i am virtual member having moved out of NYC some years ago).  there have been a handful of virtual meet-ups during the pandemic, and #nycbug on libera.chat is actually pretty active.  in fact i just pinged the admins there to verify the listserv is working, so hopefully it'll be back up shortly.


-pete

-- 
Pete Wright
pete@nomadlogic.org
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Thanks! On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Pete Wright wrote: > > > On 5/12/22 05:31, Eric Melville wrote: >> Hello there, >> What is the status of NYC*BUG these days? The pandemic has not been kind to >> meetups and whatnot. >> >> I tried to get onto their mailing lists directly but only get nginx redirect errors. >> > > we are still active (i say we but i am virtual member having moved out of NYC some years ago). there have been a handful of virtual meet-ups during the pandemic, and #nycbug on libera.chat is actually pretty active. in fact i just pinged the admins there to verify the listserv is working, so hopefully it'll be back up shortly. > > > -pete > > > -- > Pete Wright > pete@nomadlogic.org > @nomadlogicLA --5567ec0cf19e423da4eb8a10ad161bae Content-Type: text/html
Awesome. Thanks!

On Thu, May 12, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Pete Wright wrote:


On 5/12/22 05:31, Eric Melville wrote:
Hello there,
What is the status of NYC*BUG these days? The pandemic has not been kind to
meetups and whatnot.

I tried to get onto their mailing lists directly but only get nginx redirect errors.


we are still active (i say we but i am virtual member having moved out of NYC some years ago).  there have been a handful of virtual meet-ups during the pandemic, and #nycbug on libera.chat is actually pretty active.  in fact i just pinged the admins there to verify the listserv is working, so hopefully it'll be back up shortly.


-pete


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I just broke my wrist and find typing (coding) very hard (= took me 5 mins to type this sentence for example).=C2=A0=C2=A0 Any ideas on= how to make it easier to type/input code (Java, HTML and JavaScript)?

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