From nobody Sun Dec 24 04:04:29 2023 X-Original-To: enlightenment@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SyS8s3qm5z53jd3 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 04:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SyS8s2CLRz3gF0 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 04:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1703390669; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YbNCTwioOI7TiLUTWKEG/ZFzuduQ/S8WXDBvTX6HbHnL3BDg5mCL0+qn/r/ClG8N9XSRe8 H4AWdmMSpi+3HfE9M3VCLuikYgrDbjsf1b/Sp5aKe12m2RlSBvMYFIbD/0GY7bPXc/9jt7 /ON1ua4RQ+vmCGy0PXmvAMoYZYu9R7mr52w9qBs1RIsRI1+q7UM0CiRg59zmEdWYUV+c3b WP9JMA25Z3DksmtjI7f9/oYskxzSehlPjTPcpOGhLjYLohqpVi0vNg6wqXp9w1pADLVye1 +mYxg3Ulx4fpr88nf0ycoD4Yower7Mo2maKMfYIK9bbvwqisa6H4umUB2U/pxQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1703390669; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0bzlhu7X5zfz7z9l20CsbFLKn1VWOVsa4w0ufrpFJfI=; b=DRKVNWwOp1dlaNibtXdMD/u6OXseH9gdoLQj5cNXxihxSgceYoYsQi+CjhmrtXS9Wfk/Iy HGkjIlPpAgCCKr57+/AWQPmjje6eW3JBfx9eqo/CTYKFt/s9Wd6hDUnJJ+5PSfYlCQtTfa SLeKNvTFiZBjELE94um+xaADZi4bqFUUx1W8Mnsn5WBy3OMcGmcd/y6gBrcdz952GNl3p6 1t7NLsHBhSpN3Vt4Xka5hDFkQNI+/WX30AqCXzlSD7uVrQlGOszxXibqdbqxjTrJpCzoE6 wT5xJPpAqk9Slq7HKisJK6bX8YBwK/2QO6RkE7SkVdWTTSUV6zi+K45BnNifxg== Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (portscout.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SyS8s1JVMz1RnG for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 04:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.10]) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTP id 3BO44Tta030673 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 04:04:29 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 3BO44TqN030672; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 04:04:29 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202312240404.3BO44TqN030672@portscout.nyi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.nyi.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain List-Id: Enlightenment for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-enlightenment List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-enlightenment@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 04:04:29 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: enlightenment@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. 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From nobody Sun Dec 24 21:00:52 2023 X-Original-To: enlightenment@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Sytjd6kQRz54ThZ for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Sytjc6vZ6z3Htd for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1703451653; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=u/IYH/0+YIQbKDSkewGhbpsA7Ns36+7j1lJjWMVaxeio/jxU803Py6KW9RGyU12U118Sp1 9UsRfmwzGIPFF6H4il7wuCm6ZTUvdSkPwbxQHAVY9zAJVsErQFXLT7fXbbmsx35tJwNUm1 4bGqMcWcqz0rkDmYTjCudAxdiIJwr+T4IohVv3tzMC2ate0LcXUWzanMuAi5hBal+rLAiN GPkv/GI+ehUYNo2j0r4tHLEsH0RabEKS27Dt/ezNW8fs9D0s/4+urZ0kPnZte87kDLpIMY KcCUTdZBbfWCOPxQY0GUN4wnodA2mO6oNMaZUBtqPkGQIPMvayx1bL+dux3Qug== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1703451653; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iVeACOK/8g/aJCpN6PQ9NpcwJX/7sjTHWhflMiIg0yY=; b=JnMi42IS/XImLFOatMMqwQzQU6GtImQCwtm53aOEK/Z5FGyYbtXBT8Th0KqvpUsBH5t70X aeZBmrVEkuBLbBK9psoxhyhdgLTjGXeNfZlvUEem8i8RsChG9NGsfZWjsSkx0bNaQc+pD6 R1vKubIQh89xu0J9CEciZOAMbMt+uHFBIc22hcWDtHi5shZjTanVn6OdtNI+mg8/jKu/yH YMIYUsSq3DMNqWXvPFaEBXPzM6N2OEs2N50X/OlxLPrr5NOxma5iiCbULZU723fqZ+3HZQ OeBzsu5ofNA4jQ2fe4wHDQWtNjikfVnTEYcjYL61JEAAuqSBb+Bi1sddmwTFxQ== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Sytjc611WzjpF for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 3BOL0qdU074987 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 3BOL0qcP074985 for enlightenment@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202312242100.3BOL0qcP074985@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: enlightenment@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for enlightenment@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 +0000 List-Id: Enlightenment for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-enlightenment List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-enlightenment@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="17034516521.d41F54a.69967" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --17034516521.d41F54a.69967 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 267656 | x11-wm/enlightenment multimedia/obs-studio: luaji 1 problems total for which you should take action. --17034516521.d41F54a.69967 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 21:00:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
------------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------
Open        |    267656 | x11-wm/enlightenment multimedia/obs-studio: luaji

1 problems total for which you should take action.
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I upgraded my system to FreeBSD14  this afternoon and performed all package upgrades as one should when upgrading between major versions, and uppon going back into X and Enlightenment I have a couple of programs that I had added to my startup  (Firefox and Thunderbird) which started fine however I noticed when trying to start a terminal emulator such as terminology, xterm or eterm, they start but then seem like they are stuck in a crash loop where it is trying to start then disappears then tries to start again over and over until I kill it , I tried a few other applications with similar result smost seem to not be able to place a stable window on the desktop, so I tried to remove my E profile and ran through the Enlightenment set up again but after answering all of the setup questions the screen seems to just go blank and never lands me on a usable desktop, I was hoping someone might have a suggestion to assist with this weird issue, I'm totally fine with sending over any output or logs that might help with diagnosing the problem or if you can point me to a possible log file I may have overlooked maybe I'll get lucky and it's a quick fix? anyway thanks in advance for any help. Jason From nobody Fri Dec 29 08:42:37 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-enlightenment@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T1f686ySKz55dfK for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@flytrace.com) Received: from mail.flytrace.com (mail.flytrace.com [161.97.166.100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T1f683D22z4lr3 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@flytrace.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.flytrace.com Received: from mail.flytrace.com (mail1.flytrace.com [192.168.101.226]) by mail.flytrace.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC7F826C for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:42:54 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=flytrace.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :from:from:content-language:references:to:subject:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:date:message-id; s=dkim; t= 1703839370; x=1706431371; bh=IlxoXwy6uL/QDLvNUT37CyRP49GsG6yQEDU uUmvwBx0=; b=CLSCNcQefDxXvb993GXsF3zT4x+Ry3QKGyK5QwUzF7XkqvwaDXs UeiQS4+Vcfx7u6Pnf7VZ8eBkahzYsIuIrgf0RkUlIW9jclcnXulKW5uSTV9S0FIa Fhhka9Kml4EU+4BZ4tmOLL6UvpgQYE98lN8RlLXcCElbnRyHXE5pz8hE= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.flytrace.com Received: from mail.flytrace.com ([192.168.101.226]) by mail.flytrace.com (mail.flytrace.com [192.168.101.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id qEw_BCXOon8q for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:42:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.flytrace.com Received: from [192.168.211.66] (85-31-109-70.netw.fr [85.31.109.70]) by mail.flytrace.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EC2882AB; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:42:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:42:37 +0100 List-Id: Enlightenment for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-enlightenment List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-enlightenment@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: weird enlightenment behavior after upgrade to Freebsd 14 To: freebsd-enlightenment@freebsd.org, Jason Selwitz References: Content-Language: en-US From: Peter In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51167, ipnet:161.97.160.0/20, country:DE] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T1f683D22z4lr3 Hello Jason, Unfortunately, there are some issues running the Enlightenment (version=20 present in ports/packages) on FreeBSD 14. All the issues were fixed in new versions of EFL and Enlightenment,=20 actually I'm running the last versions on both 13.2 and 14.0 without any=20 problem. We'll try to update the ports this weekend. Waiting for the updates, you=20 can build EFL and Enlightenment from sources, no FreeBSD-specific=20 patches are needed. The sources are available on enlightenment.org site: https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2023-12-23-efl-1.27.0 https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2022-12-23-enlightenment-0.26.0 You have FreeBSD-specific meson configuration scripts in sources:=20 conf/freebsd.sh (for both EFL and Enlightenment) Once configured, you need just run 'ninja -C build' to build and 'sudo=20 ninja -C build install' to install the software. The detailed instructions can be found here: https://www.enlightenment.org/download Don't hesitate to ask here if you have any problems during build/install. Best regards, Peter On 29/12/2023 04:18, Jason Selwitz wrote: > Hello I was wondering if anyone might have some suggestions, I'm=20 > entirely open to it being something other than enlightenment.. > > I upgraded my system to FreeBSD14=C2=A0 this afternoon and performed al= l=20 > package upgrades as one should when upgrading between major versions,=20 > and uppon going back into X and Enlightenment I have a couple of=20 > programs that I had added to my startup=C2=A0 (Firefox and Thunderbird)= =20 > which started fine however I noticed when trying to start a terminal=20 > emulator such as terminology, xterm or eterm, they start but then seem=20 > like they are stuck in a crash loop where it is trying to start then=20 > disappears then tries to start again over and over until I kill it , I=20 > tried a few other applications with similar result smost seem to not=20 > be able to place a stable window on the desktop, so I tried to remove=20 > my E profile and ran through the Enlightenment set up again but after=20 > answering all of the setup questions the screen seems to just go blank=20 > and never lands me on a usable desktop, I was hoping someone might=20 > have a suggestion to assist with this weird issue, I'm totally fine=20 > with sending over any output or logs that might help with diagnosing=20 > the problem or if you can point me to a possible log file I may have=20 > overlooked maybe I'll get lucky and it's a quick fix? anyway thanks in=20 > advance for any help. > > Jason > > From nobody Fri Dec 29 08:50:17 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-enlightenment@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T1fGN4rq6z55f19 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jselwitz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x729.google.com (mail-qk1-x729.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::729]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T1fGN2xB0z4mDt for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 08:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jselwitz@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-qk1-x729.google.com with SMTP id af79cd13be357-781753f52afso88061085a.2 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 00:50:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703839819; x=1704444619; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:autocrypt:from :content-language:references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date :message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=BGZIP9tceVJSAKaGNurX7HvEF0bycDAkycEIx3f+UGM=; b=SCNgdvoI88cLyfdKBfGPhysqifi40kyja8d65g57a+UM7GFvql3bavsVslhzFO8J87 3gOnzwflBjZZsQ6NOzplTa3Y0xd+5F/Y5U1NbrRfRb7kuwQQA2xuhhWSmYThkop19hKw mYbSevFfMu+TTAlsMdZ/ovYyBa1NoeCZvAGolhMF3hSuijZAQuMO0y40o6zvRkQAdZ7O cFmDxVuOYZg/LRG5YDmiPVJotzP+7aT6v6Ub6OiFisWpPY66oHKe3nANLFTWh0eyITBf LRV8ey91alljn2qb8x9EkyICSQmA0FXa5d1bs572rlu9gEbVYd8XZkQHCICj8bkm36CE YTVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703839819; x=1704444619; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:autocrypt:from :content-language:references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date :message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=BGZIP9tceVJSAKaGNurX7HvEF0bycDAkycEIx3f+UGM=; b=ZoWl+kxQosAfNgLdjYAFI2hiWvHamMMlYFMVf/mh7goY/U6PDn77zyX5KZIvYK88i9 a3ewbzkPQ7LAzSdmXmopb4LONSy2/tiCcqsF+j3vfhTtBpQKbVVK8+uazRyRav3OwdH1 cb2F94pr4bgiTfauwDIFj7Ymidcd3jjCgPHCFodQeOhpko/zYX3oJxsvgnhNfSUMtMuK 6yvr3V6qFKcmeADW3sMNyCsOTgJO/KL619i0LU9RTjAx0ok92QoT7LNd70Qk7rGZJu2u KX6ouAbx8gdzntHS7I3f1bUGv3LDNnVZi+JLnC3vR5JJQ1I0keBKMbgLvgr8zxZKigvI bKeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YylgGQsazg87tKFrj7Rd+84F4TLa7mHkh6a4O8DfI+JffmiH9rp lpcg+ntsv19/p2VUe5ZMDlpVIOWX4Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEkX2nvIQ+7W/mNZMQ2jwoEHs295RvE8EF02Uev4/cI3IyDwDqYVoEB2KFhoO+W1SRahJGg7A== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:30d:b0:781:5661:e537 with SMTP id s13-20020a05620a030d00b007815661e537mr5618276qkm.90.1703839819303; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 00:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (pool-108-44-16-199.albyny.east.verizon.net. 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That explains it! I've tried it on two different systems this week with similar results, I have a workaround in place at ten moment, If I get a chance I'll give that method a shot, otherwise I can certainly wait for updates to be pushed to packages/ports. Thanks so much for your response. Take care! Jason On 12/29/23 03:42, Peter wrote: > Hello Jason, > > Unfortunately, there are some issues running the Enlightenment > (version present in ports/packages) on FreeBSD 14. > > All the issues were fixed in new versions of EFL and Enlightenment, > actually I'm running the last versions on both 13.2 and 14.0 without > any problem. > > We'll try to update the ports this weekend. Waiting for the updates, > you can build EFL and Enlightenment from sources, no FreeBSD-specific > patches are needed. > > The sources are available on enlightenment.org site: > > https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2023-12-23-efl-1.27.0 > > https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2022-12-23-enlightenment-0.26.0 > > You have FreeBSD-specific meson configuration scripts in sources: > conf/freebsd.sh (for both EFL and Enlightenment) > > Once configured, you need just run 'ninja -C build' to build and 'sudo > ninja -C build install' to install the software. > > The detailed instructions can be found here: > > https://www.enlightenment.org/download > > Don't hesitate to ask here if you have any problems during build/install. > > Best regards, > > Peter > > > On 29/12/2023 04:18, Jason Selwitz wrote: >> Hello I was wondering if anyone might have some suggestions, I'm >> entirely open to it being something other than enlightenment.. >> >> I upgraded my system to FreeBSD14  this afternoon and performed all >> package upgrades as one should when upgrading between major versions, >> and uppon going back into X and Enlightenment I have a couple of >> programs that I had added to my startup  (Firefox and Thunderbird) >> which started fine however I noticed when trying to start a terminal >> emulator such as terminology, xterm or eterm, they start but then >> seem like they are stuck in a crash loop where it is trying to start >> then disappears then tries to start again over and over until I kill >> it , I tried a few other applications with similar result smost seem >> to not be able to place a stable window on the desktop, so I tried to >> remove my E profile and ran through the Enlightenment set up again >> but after answering all of the setup questions the screen seems to >> just go blank and never lands me on a usable desktop, I was hoping >> someone might have a suggestion to assist with this weird issue, I'm >> totally fine with sending over any output or logs that might help >> with diagnosing the problem or if you can point me to a possible log >> file I may have overlooked maybe I'll get lucky and it's a quick fix? >> anyway thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Jason >> >>