Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 17:58:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Richard Perini <rpp@ci.com.au> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, rscheff@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: low TCP speed, wrong rtt measurement Message-ID: <202304090058.3390wrE1020757@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <ZDHuz%2B/p3EemMnK7@jodi.ci.com.au>
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> On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 02:46:34PM -0000, Peter 'PMc' Much wrote:
> > ** maybe this should rather go the -net list, but then
> > ** there are only bug messages
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to transfer backup data via WAN; the link bandwidth is
> > only ~2 Mbit, but this can well run for days and just saturate the spare
> > bandwidth.
> >
> > The problem is, it doesn't saturate the bandwidth.
> >
> > I found that the backup application opens the socket in this way:
> > if ((fd = socket(ipaddr->GetFamily(), SOCK_STREAM, 0)) < 0) {
> >
> > Apparently that doesn't work well. So I patched the application to do
> > it this way:
> > - if ((fd = socket(ipaddr->GetFamily(), SOCK_STREAM, 0)) < 0) {
> > + if ((fd = socket(ipaddr->GetFamily(), SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP)) < 0) {
> >
> > The result, observed with tcpdump, was now noticeably different, but
> > rather worse than better.
> >
> > I tried various cc algorithms, all behaved very bad with the exception
> > of cc_vegas. Vegas, after tuning the alpha and beta, gave satisfying
> > results with less than 1% tradeoff.
> >
> > But only for a time. After transferring for a couple of hours the
> > throughput went bad again:
> >
> > # netstat -aC
> > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) CC cwin ssthresh MSS ECN
> > tcp6 0 57351 edge-jo.26996 pole-n.22 ESTABLISHED vegas 22203 10392 1311 off
> > tcp4 0 106305 edge-e.62275 pole-n.bacula-sd ESTABLISHED vegas 11943 5276 1331 off
> >
> > The first connection is freshly created. The second one runs for a day
> > already , and it is obviousely hosed - it doesn't recover.
> >
> > # sysctl net.inet.tcp.cc.vegas
> > net.inet.tcp.cc.vegas.beta: 14
> > net.inet.tcp.cc.vegas.alpha: 8
> >
> > 8 (alpha) x 1331 (mss) = 10648
> >
> > The cwin is adjusted to precisely one tick above the alpha, and
> > doesn't rise further. (Increasing the alpha further does solve the
> > issue for this connection - but that is not how things are supposed to
> > work.)
> >
> > Now I tried to look into the data that vegas would use for it's
> > decisions, and found this:
> >
> > # dtrace -n 'fbt:kernel:vegas_ack_received:entry { printf("%s %u %d %d %d %d", execname,\
> > (*((struct tcpcb **)(arg0+24)))->snd_cwnd,\
> > ((struct ertt *)((*((struct tcpcb **)(arg0+24)))->osd->osd_slots[0]))->minrtt,\
> > ((struct ertt *)((*((struct tcpcb **)(arg0+24)))->osd->osd_slots[0]))->marked_snd_cwnd,\
> > ((struct ertt *)((*((struct tcpcb **)(arg0+24)))->osd->osd_slots[0]))->bytes_tx_in_marked_rtt,\
> > ((struct ertt *)((*((struct tcpcb **)(arg0+24)))->osd->osd_slots[0]))->markedpkt_rtt);\
> > }'
> > CPU ID FUNCTION:NAME
> > 6 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 11943 1 11943 10552 131
> > 17 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 22203 56 22203 20784 261
> > 17 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 22203 56 22203 20784 261
> > 3 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 11943 1 11943 10552 131
> > 5 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 22203 56 22203 20784 261
> > 17 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 11943 1 11943 10552 131
> > 11 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 11943 1 11943 10552 106
> > 15 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 22203 56 22203 20784 261
> > 13 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 22203 56 22203 20784 261
> > 16 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 11943 1 11943 10552 106
> > 3 17478 vegas_ack_received:entry ng_queue 22203 56 22203 20784 261
> >
> > One can see that the "minrtt" value for the freshly created connection
> > is 56 (which is very plausible).
> > But the old and hosed connection shows minrtt = 1, which explains the
> > observed cwin.
> >
> > The minrtt gets calculated in sys/netinet/khelp/h_ertt.c:
> > e_t->rtt = tcp_ts_getticks() - txsi->tx_ts + 1;
> > There is a "+1", so this was apparently zero.
> >
> > But source and destination are at least 1000 km apart. So either we
> > have had one of the rare occasions of hyperspace tunnelling, or
> > something is going wrong in the ertt measurement code.
> >
> > For now this is a one-time observation, but it might also explain why
> > the other cc algorithms behaved badly. These algorithms are widely in
> > use and should work - the ertt measurement however is the same for all of
> > them.
>
> I can confirm I am seeing similar problems transferring files to our various
> production sites around Australia. Various types/sizes of links and bandwidths.
> I can saturate the nearby links, but the link utilisation/saturation decreases
> with distance.
>
> I've tried various transfer protocols: ftp, scp, rcp, http: results are
> similar for all. Ping times for the closest WAN link is 2.3ms, furthest is
> 60ms. On the furthest link, we get around 15% utilisation. Transfer between
> 2 Windows hosts on the furthest link yields ~80% utilisation.
Windows should be using cc_cubic, you say above you had tried all the
congestion algorithims, and only cc_vegas after tuning gave good results.
>
> FreeBSD versions involved are 12.1 and 12.2.
I wonder if cc_cubic is broken in 12.X, it should give
similiar results to windows if things are working correctly.
I am adding Richard Scheffenegger as he is the most recent expect
on the congestion control code in FreeBSD.
> --
> Richard Perini
> Ramico Australia Pty Ltd Sydney, Australia rpp@ci.com.au +61 2 9552 5500
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "The difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no
> difference, but in practice there is"
--
Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
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