a newbie in FreeBSD here trying to install a RAIDZ2 on a server with mps SA= S controller with drives which are not visible in the boot order in BIOS.

So, I cannot install directly on the drives, despite that the installer &qu= ot;sees" them, because the BIOS does not see the controller and its dr= ives as option.

On the other hand, I have a card reader with a flash card on it (4gigs) fro= m which I can boot and where I can have my /boot partition with the kernel.=

I've a lot of questions and I still cannot find the answers to most of them= , despite going through the handbook, the boot process explanation, the ins= tallation process handbook and a lot of more reading.

How should the flash c= ard be partitioned and with what mountpoints? The server is BIOS capable.
How should= the rest of the drives be partitioned with ZFS and the mountpoints? The st= andard configuration from the installer on RAIDZ2 is good for me.

I've experience with Linux but is not helping a lot here. The se= tup looks quite different .... probably because of the ZFS.

Any help, links, ideas and comments will be much appreciated!

Cyberly yours,

deragoth

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Otherwise it won't install a BIOS fragment to run at boot, and the drives won't be seen. On the other hand, I have a card reader with a flash card on it (4gigs) > from which I can boot and where I can have my /boot partition with the > kernel. > I've a lot of questions and I still cannot find the answers to most of > them, despite going through the handbook, the boot process explanation, t= he > installation process handbook and a lot of more reading. > > > - How should the flash card be partitioned and with what mountpoints? > The server is BIOS capable. > - How should the rest of the drives be partitioned with ZFS and the > mountpoints? The standard configuration from the installer on RAIDZ2 i= s > good for me. > > I've experience with Linux but is not helping a lot here. The setup looks > quite different .... probably because of the ZFS. > > Any help, links, ideas and comments will be much appreciated! > That's a workaround, but you should be able to enable the BIOS part of the mps/mpr cards and boot off them. I've done that before. Warner > > Cyberly yours, > deragoth > > > --00000000000090295c0607634752 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 2:36=E2=80=AF= PM azathanai@icloud.com <azathanai@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi all,

a newbie in FreeBSD here trying to install a RAIDZ2 on a server with mps SA= S controller with drives which are not visible in the boot order in BIOS.
So, I cannot install directly on the drives, despite that the installer &qu= ot;sees" them, because the BIOS does not see the controller and its dr= ives as option.

Have you = enabled the BIOS on the mps card itself? Otherwise it won't install a B= IOS fragment to run at boot, and the drives won't be seen.

On the other hand, I have a card reader with a flash c= ard on it (4gigs) from which I can boot and where I can have my /boot parti= tion with the kernel.=C2=A0

I've a lot of questions and I still cannot find the answers to most of = them, despite going through the handbook, the boot process explanation, the= installation process handbook and a lot of more reading.

How should the flash car= d be partitioned and with what mountpoints? The server is BIOS capable.

How should t= he rest of the drives be partitioned with ZFS and the mountpoints? The stan= dard configuration from the installer on RAIDZ2 is good for me.
=

I've experience with Linux but is not helping a lot here. Th= e setup looks quite different .... probably because of the ZFS.

Any help, links, ideas and comments will be much appreciated!

That's a w= orkaround, but you should be able to enable the BIOS part of the mps/mpr ca= rds and boot off them. I've done that before.

= Warner

=C2=A0

Cyberly yours,

deragoth

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From: "Andrey V. Elsukov" Subject: Re: driver support for USB WiFi RTL8188GU In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.48 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.52)[0.525]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.ru,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.ru:s=mail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:178.154.239.144/28]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[178.154.239.146:from]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yandex.ru:dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.ru:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yandex.ru]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:200350, ipnet:178.154.224.0/19, country:RU]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yandex.ru]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S57yB1Czrz4KCs On 10.10.2023 12:18, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > 1) is this idProduct = 0xb711 the ID I should try to add somewhere? > 2) is there a way to avoid manual eject every time I try to use this > dongle? (I tried usbconfig -d ugen1.4 add_quirk UQ_MSC_IGNORE with no luck) In linux 0xb711 device is handled by rtl8xxxu driver: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/1c8b86a3799f7e5be903c3f49fcdaee29fd385b5/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtl8xxxu/rtl8xxxu_core.c#L7792 The most corresponding our analog seems to be rtwn(4) driver. But it lacks support for rtl8710b. Even if you add device id, it won't work. -- WBR, Andrey V. 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To: "Andrey V. Elsukov" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) > On 11 Oct 2023, at 12:18, Andrey V. Elsukov wrote: >=20 > On 10.10.2023 12:18, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >> 1) is this idProduct =3D 0xb711 the ID I should try to add somewhere? >> 2) is there a way to avoid manual eject every time I try to use this = dongle? (I tried usbconfig -d ugen1.4 add_quirk UQ_MSC_IGNORE with no = luck) >=20 > In linux 0xb711 device is handled by rtl8xxxu driver: > = https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/1c8b86a3799f7e5be903c3f49fcdaee29fd= 385b5/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtl8xxxu/rtl8xxxu_core.c#L7792 >=20 > The most corresponding our analog seems to be rtwn(4) driver. But it = lacks support for rtl8710b. Even if you add device id, it won't work. 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In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42000, ipnet:94.124.104.0/21, country:CZ] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S5Df23bBgz3QYF On 11/10/2023 14:02, azathanai@icloud.com wrote: > Hey Warner, > the box is very featureLESS (an old Xyratex HS-1235T box, as far as I > researched it). > T2029_QR v1.3.ai (hackspace.org.uk) > > (5) Xyratex 0944037-03 Motherboard Mystery SOLVED : homelab (reddit.com) > > > Through the POST process and the BIOS there is no option to get into the > SAS controller and enable its BIOS. I would love to install FreeBSD > directly on the drives and not to deal with the flash card, but I > suppose the lack of controller BIOS is the reason the box comes with > reader and card directly. [..] This depends on at what stage the computer starts to see the disk behind the SAS controller. I had an old HP server that only saw one disk out of four in the BIOS, so it couldn't boot from RAIDZ, but it was enough to make a 10GB partition on each disk as a 4 way ZFS mirror, boot from that and use the rest of each disk for the main RAIDZ storage (4x 8TB). Maybe it would have been enough to use a USB flash drive for the freebsd-boot partition in GPT scheme and then continue boot from the disks on the SAS controller. gpart create -s GPT da0 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr da0 gpart add -b 40 -s 512 -t freebsd-boot da0 gpart bootcode -p /boot/zfsgptboot -i 1 da0 As long as the computer boots from the installer CD, FreeBSD with RAIDZ can be installed on the disks behind the SAS controller without any modification, only the USB flash drive must provide the boot. If the USB flash drive must also contain a UFS /boot partition, then copy an image that can be downloaded from the web as a "mini-memstick" to the USB flash drive https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.2R/announce/ (use dd according to the instructions) Or again, create a complete installation from the FreeBSD installer on the USB flash drive. But the installation to big drives with RAIDZ should be done normally from the FreeBSD installer. No modifications needed. Kind regards Miroslav Lachman From nobody Wed Oct 11 15:44:10 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S5HBf1yVjz4wJmH for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52c.google.com (mail-ed1-x52c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S5HBd3md4z3dBV for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ed1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5230a22cfd1so4002a12.1 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:44:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1697039062; x=1697643862; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=MgJCt797c6zDcxkIMPWcioHp1rW1/yxzo9DdNbkPc70=; b=pcDKJwsELQ+EByz5ToGXJ26zcBiR7Ozaob0hAw4/pldKj6G34TyNhlBv6q+BLX7Dux FI8cmSk9Kj6bJqQx1TgTW5FS2Ykf5YcwYIvm547SbeH6qsA45Et6POfiPwVKuN/ntfU3 PbSfIlysfYmH0dYyHZfsfZPUXM/xx1RIsrUQ1wW9rI8sNzj0UET9DgRV0my+Mn0IKzDB 1ZFEKPR2p1U1GNQ1IGnk8ler2o+76na5GpXm1s1JDIyTmx65nymeCi/mibKjXSu7NZlF pCL7pmJR8TBrDLoy12sphjJtfp0/sDcDS+hDD/jlALQApwyo8SK2bQbzkfubyShzjo+1 +vdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697039062; x=1697643862; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=MgJCt797c6zDcxkIMPWcioHp1rW1/yxzo9DdNbkPc70=; b=Re1SLP7WEIP4OAVQ+O3k7TEDGL9t3yjcQWC/5JQZ/Vv5CEFmVRw27EBq297hXjtGcK 9iAG7vcD8iP9GIwX+iNBIbJUO//18b2uj5MGN47HWrlObojSa6h9xPDXCUx67Zbe3Ah5 bYPnisyXC+VVVux2b26WFRWNX3bIuF5wNhIcCLa6AkcO7UDjRPjn6G7OET+S99kUQl+e 5w81d3wvs81DNZiBe6WP8d2Z9169ht3Ieq9GXEOdcxDFuE3PQMJ+TovtJZT3P+4KfIBb LFeRcB0YXN+++GazEAWPqoJMKbQ43LL3Vda1MqhO5TEMINVTCvbfJjmlnIC/Lm9Z1zfn XMzw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YybmvuX2vKlXU+KUX0JMcWDGwZRgP8x7shlEFY0f7kRpR0GfH2O 3IOHVANoFCba4BA0qePJdavP3WK8+GVYg370ZxAVP6tf2Rg+OXGOiiJn/w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHysJbQPIhrZiJvRCh1gXMc9Qs90+2HkIkqymlNRRk7U9wjIlEONSQeErFJ292JWYh8M0QfXezcSaGVhwG0ATA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5d82:b0:53d:ea81:d021 with SMTP id if2-20020a0564025d8200b0053dea81d021mr1270341edb.37.1697039061582; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:44:21 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:44:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question of installing over SAS controller and USB flash To: "azathanai@icloud.com" Cc: "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006fa25e060772b2de" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S5HBd3md4z3dBV --0000000000006fa25e060772b2de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's not a FreeBSD port/pkg for lsiutil, but I'ved used it at $WORK for things. https://github.com/thomaslovell/LSIUtil has an archive of sources. I've not used this at all, and it hasn't been ported to FreeBSD in this repo. But I know it allows one to turn on/off the POST / BIOS in the card, which is what you need. It runs under Linux for sure (again, don't know what packages are available there). I don't think I can share what I have for $WORK with the public since I think we got it in a way that doesn't let me disclose the sources. One might also be able move the code lsiutil that enables it to mpsutil. It's going to be sending a raw command to the device. It shouldn't be too hard.... Warner On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 6:02=E2=80=AFAM azathanai@icloud.com wrote: > Hey Warner, > the box is very featureLESS (an old Xyratex HS-1235T box, as far as I > researched it). > T2029_QR v1.3.ai (hackspace.org.uk) > > (5) Xyratex 0944037-03 Motherboard Mystery SOLVED : homelab (reddit.com) > > > Through the POST process and the BIOS there is no option to get into the > SAS controller and enable its BIOS. I would love to install FreeBSD > directly on the drives and not to deal with the flash card, but I suppose > the lack of controller BIOS is the reason the box comes with reader and > card directly. > > As I'm new to FreeBSD and ZFS I'm struggling to set up the partitioning. = I > was thinking to: > > 1. Partition the entire FLASH card (4gigs) on MBR with freebsd-ufs and > mount /boot. As I've read there should not be ESP (efi) partition as t= his > is flash, thus MBR, which is "legacy" and without ESP. > 2. Partition one of the drives (3tera) with GPT, freebsd-zfs stripe > and mount / > 3. When the system is up and running, add the rest of the drives (11 > more) to the pool and change the pool to RAIDZ2. However I'm not sure = this > is possible, to change the type of the pool without erasing everything= . > Logical thinking says it is not possible. > 4. After all of these comes the mounting of filesystems and creating > fstab to continue the installation, which is full darkness at the mome= nt, > as I'm still struggling with the initial start and not have read anyth= ing > on that. > > > All of these should be done in shell with the gpart utility during instal= l > and I cannot figure out, how to make points 2 and 3 on one go having > directly the RAIDZ2. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org < > owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> on behalf of Warner Losh < > imp@bsdimp.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 00:20 > *To:* azathanai@icloud.com > *Cc:* freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org > *Subject:* Re: Question of installing over SAS controller and USB flash > > > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 2:36=E2=80=AFPM azathanai@icloud.com > wrote: > > Hi all, > a newbie in FreeBSD here trying to install a RAIDZ2 on a server with mps > SAS controller with drives which are not visible in the boot order in BIO= S. > So, I cannot install directly on the drives, despite that the installer > "sees" them, because the BIOS does not see the controller and its drives = as > option. > > > Have you enabled the BIOS on the mps card itself? Otherwise it won't > install a BIOS fragment to run at boot, and the drives won't be seen. > > On the other hand, I have a card reader with a flash card on it (4gigs) > from which I can boot and where I can have my /boot partition with the > kernel. > I've a lot of questions and I still cannot find the answers to most of > them, despite going through the handbook, the boot process explanation, t= he > installation process handbook and a lot of more reading. > > > - How should the flash card be partitioned and with what mountpoints? > The server is BIOS capable. > - How should the rest of the drives be partitioned with ZFS and the > mountpoints? The standard configuration from the installer on RAIDZ2 i= s > good for me. > > I've experience with Linux but is not helping a lot here. The setup looks > quite different .... probably because of the ZFS. > > Any help, links, ideas and comments will be much appreciated! > > > That's a workaround, but you should be able to enable the BIOS part of th= e > mps/mpr cards and boot off them. I've done that before. > > Warner > > > > Cyberly yours, > deragoth > > > --0000000000006fa25e060772b2de Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There's not a FreeBSD port/pkg for lsiutil, but I'= ved used it at $WORK for things.

https://github.com/thomaslovell/LSIUtil

has an archive of sources. I've not used thi= s at all, and it hasn't been ported to FreeBSD in this repo.

= But I know it allows one to turn on/off the POST / BIOS in the card, which = is what you need.=C2=A0 It runs

under Linux for sure (again, don&= #39;t know what packages are available there). I don't think I can shar= e

what I have for $WORK with the public since I think we got it i= n a way that doesn't let me disclose the

sources.

<= br>

One might also be able move the code lsiutil that enables it = to mpsutil. It's going to be sending a raw

command to the dev= ice. It shouldn't be too hard....

Warner

= On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 6:02=E2=80=AFAM azathanai@icloud.com <a= zathanai@icloud.com> wrote:

Hey Warner,

the box is very featureLESS (an old Xyratex HS-1235T box, as far as I resea= rched it).=C2=A0

T2029_QR v1.3.ai (hackspace.org.uk)

(5) Xyratex 0944037-03 Moth= erboard Mystery SOLVED : homelab (reddit.com)

Through the POST process and the BIOS there is no option to get into the SA= S controller and enable its BIOS. I would love to install FreeBSD directly = on the drives and not to deal with the flash card, but I suppose the lack o= f controller BIOS is the reason the box comes with reader and card directly.

As I'm new to FreeBSD and ZFS I'm struggling to set up the partitio= ning. I was thinking to:

Partition the entire FL= ASH card (4gigs) on MBR with freebsd-ufs and mount /boot. As I've read = there should not be ESP (efi) partition as this is flash, thus MBR, which i= s "legacy" and without ESP.
Partition one of the drives (3tera) with GPT, fre= ebsd-zfs stripe and mount /
When the system is up and=C2=A0running, add the rest of the= drives (11 more) to the pool and change the pool to RAIDZ2. However I'= m not sure this is possible, to change the type of the pool without erasing= everything. Logical thinking says it is not possible.
After all of these comes the mounting of filesystems and c= reating fstab to continue the installation, which is full darkness at the m= oment, as I'm still struggling with the initial start and not have read= anything on that.

All of these should be done in shell with the gpart utility duri= ng install and I cannot figure out, how to make points 2 and 3 on one go ha= ving directly the RAIDZ2.

From: = owne= r-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org <owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>= on behalf of Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 00:20
To: azatha= nai@icloud.com <azathanai@icloud.com>
Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject: Re: Question of installing over SAS controller and USB flas= h
=C2=A0

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 2:36=E2=80=AFPM azathanai@icloud.com <azathanai@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi all,

a newbie in FreeBSD here trying to install a RAIDZ2 on a server with mps SA= S controller with drives which are not visible in the boot order in BIOS.
So, I cannot install directly on the drives, despite that the installer &qu= ot;sees" them, because the BIOS does not see the controller and its dr= ives as option.

Have you enabled the BIOS on the mps card itself? Otherwise it won'= ;t install a BIOS fragment to run at boot, and the drives won't be seen= .

On the other hand, I have a card reader with a flash card on it (4gigs) fro= m which I can boot and where I can have my /boot partition with the kernel.= =C2=A0

I've a lot of questions and I still cannot find the answers to most of = them, despite going through the handbook, the boot process explanation, the= installation process handbook and a lot of more reading.

How should the flash car= d be partitioned and with what mountpoints? The server is BIOS capable.

How should t= he rest of the drives be partitioned with ZFS and the mountpoints? The stan= dard configuration from the installer on RAIDZ2 is good for me.
=

I've experience with Linux but is not helping a lot here. Th= e setup looks quite different .... probably because of the ZFS.

Any help, links, ideas and comments will be much appreciated!

That's a workaround, but you should be able to enable the BIOS par= t of the mps/mpr cards and boot off them. I've done that before.

Warner

=C2=A0

Cyberly yours,

deragoth

--0000000000006fa25e060772b2de-- From nobody Fri Oct 13 03:51:00 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4S6CGn6p1Sz4wMrd for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 03:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mogensenn@sou.edu) Received: from mail-vs1-xe31.google.com (mail-vs1-xe31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4S6CGn1sddz3Jg6 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 03:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mogensenn@sou.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sou.edu header.s=google header.b="Z/4pF3Hg"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mogensenn@sou.edu designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e31 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mogensenn@sou.edu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sou.edu Received: by mail-vs1-xe31.google.com with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-45271a44cc4so713850137.2 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:51:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sou.edu; s=google; t=1697169072; x=1697773872; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QdSe635Bt1xY7nESOkBLWK7fpj3JmtWgwBPaIyOG8nY=; b=Z/4pF3HgaAlCUvXkDXzXLfRbxWYvPka2Rh/rvof2uOw/u/BxP+e/AQhpkS0WVYDHr8 7C/FEcaPsv/rMOCSP9QdzZozs8CDX1iQetQRn2EU8jhIXAPySQHMrrwcbe7uiBmbEnck 2NkbrRwANkf9WuGWZjeeO5sz+z5/1k1pPrUXtMS0g3zOYX3/wYkyqSapnrLMn8RnEzMP 2febbJoKNmTbak7QT1Dpb97HjQcKykO9h0Xyh7IKZWEtbpV7Ye8DHVruXSlQQgH+4fTj uIp/c0jdFzKeTQ4MfbMbL5MNCFl15DVIc5oCEkmQbDKKxvI7Go5pGzc85dcv7+gOPHgk ZJBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697169072; x=1697773872; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=QdSe635Bt1xY7nESOkBLWK7fpj3JmtWgwBPaIyOG8nY=; b=AfhKCzozNh/ol+EPwWCyOPTnZcux4PM0QS70KDmcNFhqOYsrcnr8qRbAZUaEgsxTcQ wzq/CqUh1FgwW09MJ3RFOgFq/J+lDtpQuDuPhq8VSrOVh9VOuwZnn6E11HNpV4pW+Y60 6IyuvJl18h6Bs+qA5CtaUI9tn9iDPQLDDd7ZlLD3mx+L7jDsHTYd+XX5zvqX0Zn/H5Mo 662t86Y7IZIQjAAOjbcjFoTnj7s16eLH6FIStnXPE/sppnI+lBvJBR5XJZqjXXAF+cRk Qv9PCRvhB7t+je2a+HYsEMXDmYDO3uosuKZNaYQDyeZCmxA6DJiJPz1nNAT0//O969vS F1dQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YweNYiEJVwAh5MtBE6PhgyWlyFZ34D6h+RvFGKVQByH0bhE7lbN SWhqRODZJZ9Da6+fL4k9xaVfQ4/bR0A/zkjMxBG+n/6KtqZM6Wxg7a8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG8e5Z3raS185/WObjlrxF6RSi1chDP1TdeFszLsYnKOvkL5LXPrsenMQ1tVUhFUwPHqXd5xssqDNmiRq4O+H4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:3668:b0:44d:5e09:e387 with SMTP id bg8-20020a056102366800b0044d5e09e387mr22804871vsb.20.1697169071922; Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:51:11 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Noah Mogensen Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:51:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: SCPS, Space Communication Protocol Standards To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a81eaa060790f780" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sou.edu,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sou.edu:s=google]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::e31:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sou.edu:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4S6CGn1sddz3Jg6 --000000000000a81eaa060790f780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, myself and a few other students are interested in taking on a project, and the SCPS implementation project from the ideas page seemed interesting to us. I was wondering whether this would still be a relevant, useful project? I had to use the wayback machine to get what little information was available on the protocols (beyond the actual spec), and I couldn't find any info about its adoption elsewhere. We're still discussing possible projects, and if this particular project is outdated, we can rule it out and find something else that piques our common interest. But, as I said before, SCPS seemed particularly interesting. --000000000000a81eaa060790f780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello, myself and a few other students are interested in t= aking on a project, and the SCPS implementation project from the ideas page= seemed interesting to us. I was wondering whether this would still be a re= levant, useful project? I had to use the wayback machine to get what little= information was available on the protocols (beyond the actual spec), and I= couldn't find any info about its adoption elsewhere.
We're stil= l discussing possible projects, and if this particular project is outdated,= we can rule it out and find something else that piques our common interest= . But, as I said before, SCPS seemed particularly interesting.

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