Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 21:10:36 +0100 From: Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net> To: Paul Floyd <paulf2718@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trying initial boot of FreeBSD (main so: 15) of Ryzen 9 7950X3D on an ASUS Prime X670-P WIFI: various dmesg -a lines; more Message-ID: <4165447c9324f1ab40f9b25121acc912@mail.infomaniak.com> In-Reply-To: <bc324f3f-0e60-42ce-8fd1-7ec5a2bd2f17@gmail.com> References: <A7AB0048-40EA-49FE-B204-CD32C79AD8D8.ref@yahoo.com> <A7AB0048-40EA-49FE-B204-CD32C79AD8D8@yahoo.com> <bc324f3f-0e60-42ce-8fd1-7ec5a2bd2f17@gmail.com>
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--_=_swift_1699128636_066fae79db3bbf0cad819126ccaf34d2_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2023-11-03T17:26:05.000+01:00, Paul Floyd <paulf2718@gmail.com> wrote:= >=C2=A0On=C2=A001/11/2023=C2=A007:00,=C2=A0Mark=C2=A0Millard=C2=A0wro= te: >=C2=A0 >>=C2=A0=C2=A0FreeBSD=C2=A0context: >>=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>= =C2=A0=C2=A0#=C2=A0uname=C2=A0-apKU >>=C2=A0=C2=A0FreeBSD=C2=A0amd64-ZFS= =C2=A015.0-CURRENT=C2=A0FreeBSD=C2=A015.0-CURRENT=C2=A0#126=C2=A0main-n2661= 30-d521abdff236-dirty:=C2=A0Tue=C2=A0Oct=C2=A024=C2=A018:17:40=C2=A0PDT= =C2=A02023=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0root@amd64-ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main= -amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG=C2=A0amd64= =C2=A0amd64=C2=A01500002=C2=A01500002 >>=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>=C2=A0=C2=A0I= =C2=A0moved=C2=A0my=C2=A0FreeBDSS=C2=A0boot=C2=A0media=C2=A0from=C2=A0a= =C2=A0ThreadRipper=C2=A01950X=C2=A0to=C2=A0a=C2=A0Ryzen=C2=A09=C2=A07950X3D= =C2=A0and=C2=A0tried >>=C2=A0=C2=A0booting.=C2=A0It=C2=A0booted=C2=A0but= =C2=A0some=C2=A0of=C2=A0the=C2=A0following=C2=A0might=C2=A0be=C2=A0of=C2= =A0some=C2=A0note.=C2=A0Is=C2=A0any=C2=A0of=C2=A0it=C2=A0likely >>=C2= =A0=C2=A0to=C2=A0be=C2=A0problematical?=C2=A0Any=C2=A0of=C2=A0it=C2=A0of= =C2=A0particular=C2=A0interest=C2=A0to=C2=A0anyone? >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0Hi= =C2=A0Mark >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0I'm=C2=A0interested.=C2=A0I=C2=A0recently= =C2=A0started=C2=A0speccing=C2=A0a=C2=A0new=C2=A0system=C2=A0to=C2=A0replac= e >=C2=A0my=C2=A0ancient=C2=A0Solaris=C2=A011=C2=A0AMD=C2=A0Opteron=C2= =A0system >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0I'm=C2=A0thinking=C2=A0of=C2=A0the=C2=A07950X3= D=C2=A0and=C2=A0an=C2=A0x670=C2=A0or=C2=A0x670e=C2=A0board.=C2=A0I'm=C2= =A0planning >=C2=A0on=C2=A0using=C2=A0the=C2=A0onboard=C2=A0graphics,= =C2=A0which=C2=A0I=C2=A0understand=C2=A0don't=C2=A0work=C2=A0in >=C2= =A0accelerated=C2=A0mode=C2=A0requiring=C2=A0the=C2=A0use=C2=A0of=C2=A0scfb= .=C2=A0I'm=C2=A0not=C2=A0too=C2=A0bothered >=C2=A0with=C2=A0the=C2=A0wifi= =C2=A0as=C2=A0long=C2=A0as=C2=A0ethernet=C2=A0works.=C2=A0I=C2=A0don't= =C2=A0often=C2=A0use=C2=A0the >=C2=A0DVD-ROM=C2=A0drive=C2=A0but=C2=A0it= =C2=A0would=C2=A0ne=C2=A0nice=C2=A0if=C2=A0it=C2=A0worked.=C2=A0I=C2=A0thin= k=C2=A0I=C2=A0can >=C2=A0finally=C2=A0lay=C2=A0to=C2=A0rest=C2=A0the= =C2=A0floppy=C2=A0drive=C2=A0(I=C2=A0said=C2=A0that=C2=A0it=C2=A0was=C2= =A0old). >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0I'll=C2=A0keep=C2=A0following=C2=A0this=C2= =A0thread=C2=A0and=C2=A0the=C2=A0bugzi=C2=A0atime=C2=A0that=C2=A0was >= =C2=A0mentioned. >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0A+ >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0Paul Hi, = AM5 works pretty well in general but there are some issues you might w= ant to be aware of. As mentioned this https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/s= how_bug.cgi?id=3D272507 seems to plauge various models and BIOS versions.= I'm not sure it's the same for B650 series as I only have one data point= being ASRock B650M PG WiFi running Beta BIOS 1.30.AS02/AGESA 1.0.0.7c wh= ich according to the reporter works fine. As far as WIFI goes most uses "= AMD RZ616" which is a Mediatek controller and unsupported however there's= work being done bringing in the mt76 driver that should to my knowledge = support this controller. Regarding ethernet you more or less have three= options using the builtin controllers, Intel i225-V, Realtek RTL8125BG= or Marvell AQC113(C). Intel works out of the box using 14.0, no idea a= bout Realtek but I suspect that you need to use the port to get it going = and the Marvell controller lacks a driver. There's a NetBSD developer hac= king on a driver if you're interested getting that going by porting it, h= ttps://github.com/ryo/aquantia .=20 A word of advice, you'll need a beef= y CPU cooler for the 95W+ "rated" CPUs as they boost very aggressively an= d mid-sized air cooler might cause it to throttle. Most Asus boards also = supports ECC memory which can be a nice feature. Here's a good round= -up of most if not all available models. https://docs.google.com/sprea= dsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit#gid=3D0 I'= m personally happy with my ASUS ProArt X670E-CREATOR with 128Gb of ECC me= mory (4 x MTC20C2085S1EC48BR) however be aware that you'll see much slowe= r memory clocks with 4 memory sticks especially dual rank due to how DDR5= and current memory controllers works. Using the latest BIOS available as= of writing (1710) breaks SATA and USB among a few other things while 160= 2 works fine. Best regards, Daniel --_=_swift_1699128636_066fae79db3bbf0cad819126ccaf34d2_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>On 2023-11-03T17:26:05.000+01:00, Paul Floyd <paulf2718@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"ik_mail_quote answerContentMessage"><block= quote class=3D"ws-ng-quote"><div class=3D"ws-ng-mail-style--5667eJzz9HPyjwA= ABGYBgQ"><p><br></p><div class=3D"">On 01/11/2023 07:00, Mark Millard wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><pre class=3D"" wrap=3D"">F= reeBSD context: # uname -apKU FreeBSD amd64-ZFS 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #126 main-n266130-d521a= bdff236-dirty: Tue Oct 24 18:17:40 PDT 2023 <a class=3D"defaultMailLink= " href=3D"mailto:root@amd64-ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main-amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/= main-src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG">root@amd64-ZFS:/usr/obj/BUILDs/main= -amd64-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODBG</a> amd64 amd= 64 1500002 1500002 I moved my FreeBDSS boot media from a ThreadRipper 1950X to a Ryzen 9 7950X= 3D and tried booting. It booted but some of the following might be of some note. Is any = of it likely to be problematical? Any of it of particular interest to anyone?<br></pre><= /blockquote><p><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;"></span><br></p><p><spa= n style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;">Hi Mark</span><br></p><p><span style=3D"w= hite-space:pre-wrap;"></span><br></p><p><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap= ;">I'm interested. I recently started speccing a new system to replace my a= ncient Solaris 11 AMD Opteron system</span><br></p><p><span style=3D"white-= space:pre-wrap;">I'm thinking of the 7950X3D and an x670 or x670e board. </= span>I'm planning on using the onboard graphics, which I understand don't work in accelerated mode requiring the use of scfb. I'm not too bothered with the wifi as long as ethernet works. I don't often use the DVD-ROM drive but it would ne nice if it worked. I think I can finally lay to rest the floppy drive (I said that it was old).<br= ></p><p>I'll keep following this thread and the bugzi atime that was mentioned.<br></p><p>A+<br></p><p>Paul<br></p></div></blockquote></di= v><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>AM5 works pretty well in general bu= t there are some issues you might want to be aware of. As mentioned this <a= href=3D"https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D272507" target= =3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" data-ik=3D"ik-secure">https://bugs.= freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D272507</a> seems to plauge various m= odels and BIOS versions. I'm not sure it's the same for B650 series as I on= ly have one data point being ASRock B650M PG WiFi running Beta BIOS 1.30.AS= 02/AGESA 1.0.0.7c which according to the reporter works fine. As far as WIF= I goes most uses "AMD RZ616" which is a Mediatek controller and unsupported= however there's work being done bringing in the mt76 driver that should to= my knowledge support this controller. Regarding ethernet you more or less = have three options using the builtin controllers, Intel i225-V, Realtek RTL= 8125BG or Marvell AQC113(C). Intel works out of the box using 14.0, no idea= about Realtek but I suspect that you need to use the port to get it going = and the Marvell controller lacks a driver. There's a NetBSD developer hacki= ng on a driver if you're interested getting that going by porting it, <a hr= ef=3D"https://github.com/ryo/aquantia" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener no= referrer" data-ik=3D"ik-secure">https://github.com/ryo/aquantia</a>; . <br><= /div><div><br></div><div>A word of advice, you'll need a beefy CPU cooler f= or the 95W+ "rated" CPUs as they boost very aggressively and mid-sized air = cooler might cause it to throttle. Most Asus boards also supports ECC memor= y which can be a nice feature.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Here's a good r= ound-up of most if not all available models.<br></div><div><a href=3D"https= ://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8= sPs/edit#gid=3D0" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" data-ik=3D"= ik-secure">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJ= oBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit#gid=3D0</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm perso= nally happy with my ASUS ProArt X670E-CREATOR with 128Gb of ECC memory (4 x= MTC20C2085S1EC48BR) however be aware that you'll see much slower memory cl= ocks with 4 memory sticks especially dual rank due to how DDR5 and current = memory controllers works. Using the latest BIOS available as of writing (17= 10) breaks SATA and USB among a few other things while 1602 works fine.<br>= </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Daniel<br></div> --_=_swift_1699128636_066fae79db3bbf0cad819126ccaf34d2_=_--
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