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I also missed https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/milestones Cheers Moin Rahman escreveu no dia s=C3=A1bado, 23/09/2023 =C3= =A0(s) 13:26: > > > > On Sep 23, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > For more than a year that poudriere ports don't have updates. > > Is there any specific reason since there is activity upstream? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Nuno Teixeira > > FreeBSD Committer (ports) > > It mostly works hence there is no updates. :P > > One of the major developer is MIA but we are looking into it. > > Kind regards, > Moin(bofh@ with portmgr@ hats on) > --=20 Nuno Teixeira FreeBSD Committer (ports) --000000000000a0d45706060604c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for info.


Cheers
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Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org<= /a>> escreveu no dia s=C3=A1bado, 23/09/2023 =C3=A0(s) 13:26:
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> On Sep 23, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> For more than a year that poudriere ports don't have updates.
> Is there any specific reason since there is activity upstream?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Nuno Teixeira
> FreeBSD Committer (ports)

It mostly works hence there is no updates. :P

One of the major developer is MIA but we are looking into it.

Kind regards,
Moin(bofh@ with portmgr@ hats on)


--
Nuno Teixeira
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--000000000000a0d45706060604c3-- From nobody Sun Sep 24 00:48:11 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RtS6d3wfLz4vW7w for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 00:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RtS6b26fzz4M4p for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 00:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp has no SPF policy when checking 153.125.133.21) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp; dmarc=none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-80-101.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.80.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.16.1/8.16.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 38O0mBmk035301; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:48:12 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 09:48:11 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2 fails to compile/link Message-Id: <20230924094811.f98b1ff6079b70ca4682c740@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.21 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.709]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RtS6b26fzz4M4p On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 17:45:56 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > =>> Building x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2 > build started at Fri Sep 22 14:14:59 CEST 2023 > port directory: /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2 > package name: p5-Gtk2-1.24993_3 > building for: FreeBSD 140-CURRENT-ports20230806-job-04 14.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT 1400094 amd64 > maintained by: perl@FreeBSD.org > Makefile datestamp: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 904 Aug 6 17:51 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2/Makefile > Ports top last git commit: 1a898a009 > Ports top unclean checkout: yes > Port dir last git commit: c84214246 > Port dir unclean checkout: no > Poudriere version: poudriere-git-3.3.99.20220831 > Host OSVERSION: 1400094 > Jail OSVERSION: 1400094 > > ... > > Creating stock items POD... > Creating enum POD... > Can't find 'boot_Gtk2' symbol in blib/arch/auto/Gtk2/Gtk2.so > at tools/podifystockitems.pl line 0. > Compilation failed in require. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted. > gmake[1]: *** [Makefile:1306: build/stock_items.podi] Error 2 > gmake[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... > Can't find 'boot_Gtk2' symbol in blib/arch/auto/Gtk2/Gtk2.so > at tools/podifyenums.pl line 0. > Compilation failed in require. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted. > > The full log is here: http://www.unixarea.de/p5-Gtk2-1.24993_3.log > > Do you want me to file a PR? > > matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 > Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub Maybe there is no INDIVIDUAL maintainer for this. perl@freebsd.org should be an alias of freebsd-perl@freebsd.org ML [1], just like freebsd-ports ML here has an alias ports@freebsd.org for accepting posts. There are already a plenty of failure reports from package builder [2] but no one have been taking action. Filing PR and reporting its bug ID here possibly attracts attentions of whom possible to understand and propose patch (unfortunately, it's not me who is possible.) So please go for it. [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-perl/ [2] https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-perl/2023-September/ Regards. -- Tomoaki AOKI From nobody Sun Sep 24 15:15:48 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RtqMb23rdz4v5S0 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 15:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RtqMb0B3Hz3Gyc for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [188.174.50.129] (helo=c720-1400094.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1qkQpq-00Etj7-Rh; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 17:15:51 +0200 Received: from c720-1400094.fritz.box (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c720-1400094.unixarea.de (8.17.1/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 38OFFoqs002381; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 17:15:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by c720-1400094.fritz.box (8.17.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 38OFFnav002380; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 17:15:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: c720-1400094.fritz.box: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2023 17:15:48 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Tomoaki AOKI Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2 fails to compile/link Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Tomoaki AOKI , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20230924094811.f98b1ff6079b70ca4682c740@dec.sakura.ne.jp> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20230924094811.f98b1ff6079b70ca4682c740@dec.sakura.ne.jp> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT r1400094 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.50.129 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.0.0/19, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RtqMb0B3Hz3Gyc El día domingo, septiembre 24, 2023 a las 09:48:11a. m. +0900, Tomoaki AOKI escribió: > Maybe there is no INDIVIDUAL maintainer for this. > perl@freebsd.org should be an alias of freebsd-perl@freebsd.org ML [1], > just like freebsd-ports ML here has an alias ports@freebsd.org for > accepting posts. > > There are already a plenty of failure reports from package builder [2] > but no one have been taking action. > > Filing PR and reporting its bug ID here possibly attracts attentions of > whom possible to understand and propose patch (unfortunately, it's not > me who is possible.) > So please go for it. 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I don't want qt5 at all. Is there a way to do this? 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PORTREVISION is bumped on toolchain update so the ports get rebuilt with the new version of the toolchain and receive whatever standard library patches the update comes with. Yours, Robert Clausecker Am Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 01:07:52AM +0000 schrieb qroxana: > Just curious, what is reason for bumping up the PORTREVISION of > the GO and Rust ports, after lang/go or lang/rust is updated? > > Thanks. -- () ascii ribbon campaign - for an 8-bit clean world /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments From nobody Mon Sep 25 14:52:08 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvQp70pbXz4rQn8 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Received: from mail.lordcow.org (lordcow.org [IPv6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "devaux.za.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvQp554qHz4Twl for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ports@lordcow.org designates 2c0f:fb18:402:5::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ports@lordcow.org; dmarc=none Received: from lordcow.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 38PEqE1w092657 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:52:14 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow@lordcow.org) X-Authentication-Warning: lordcow.org: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lordcow.org Received: (from lordcow@localhost) by lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2/Submit) id 38PEq8d9092398 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:52:08 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:52:08 +0200 From: Gareth de Vaux To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: net-p2p/transmission installation failure Message-ID: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on lordcow.org X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.20 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.10)[0.102]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lordcow.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37199, ipnet:2c0f:fb18::/32, country:ZA]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvQp554qHz4Twl Hi all, transmission fails to build/install with the following: # make -C /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission install clean .. ===> Staging for transmission-default-4.0.4_1 ===> transmission-default-4.0.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.11 - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Creating groups. ===> Creating users [ 0% 1/1] cd /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/.build && /usr/local/bin/cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_DO_STRIP=1 -P cmake_install.cmake -- Install configuration: "Release" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/index.html -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/images -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/images/favicon.ico -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/images/webclip-icon.png -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/images/favicon.png -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/transmission-app.js -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/transmission/public_html/transmission-app.js.LICENSE.txt -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-cli -- Set runtime path of "/usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-cli" to "/usr/local/lib" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/man/man1/transmission-cli.1 -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-daemon -- Set runtime path of "/usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-daemon" to "/usr/local/lib" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/man/man1/transmission-daemon.1 -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-create -- Set runtime path of "/usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-create" to "/usr/local/lib" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/man/man1/transmission-create.1 -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-edit -- Set runtime path of "/usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-edit" to "/usr/local/lib" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/man/man1/transmission-edit.1 -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-remote -- Set runtime path of "/usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-remote" to "/usr/local/lib" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/man/man1/transmission-remote.1 -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-show -- Set runtime path of "/usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/bin/transmission-show" to "/usr/local/lib" -- Installing: /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/man/man1/transmission-show.1 /bin/mkdir -p /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/etc/transmission/home ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man) ===> Staging rc.d startup script(s) ===> Installing for transmission-default-4.0.4_1 ===> Checking if transmission-default is already installed ===> Registering installation for transmission-default-4.0.4_1 pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/doc/transmission/AUTHORS:No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/doc/transmission/COPYING:No such file or directory pkg-static: Unable to access file /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/doc/transmission/README.md:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission *** Error code 1 Due to some missing staging files: # ls /usr/ports/net-p2p/transmission/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/doc ja From nobody Mon Sep 25 15:06:54 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvR6x3dqgz4rRs8 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Received: from mail.lordcow.org (lordcow.org [IPv6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "devaux.za.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvR6w3hHMz4bDB for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ports@lordcow.org designates 2c0f:fb18:402:5::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ports@lordcow.org; dmarc=none Received: from lordcow.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 38PF6xn8038876 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:59 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow@lordcow.org) X-Authentication-Warning: lordcow.org: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lordcow.org Received: (from lordcow@localhost) by lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2/Submit) id 38PF6saw038772 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:54 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:54 +0200 From: Gareth de Vaux To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-ID: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on lordcow.org X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.15 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2:c]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.15)[0.147]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lordcow.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37199, ipnet:2c0f:fb18::/32, country:ZA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvR6w3hHMz4bDB Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down since it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have ever remotely expected to need for a ports build. My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM These are the top level dependencies: # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf /usr/ports/security/openssl /usr/ports/converters/libiconv /usr/ports/devel/libuv /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 /usr/ports/devel/json-c /usr/ports/databases/lmdb /usr/ports/devel/libedit Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. Which itself would be crazy that just a manpage would trigger this kind of intense build. From nobody Mon Sep 25 15:07:57 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvR866GlHz4rSFM for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Received: from mail.lordcow.org (lordcow.org [IPv6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "devaux.za.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvR8565ttz4bZV for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ports@lordcow.org designates 2c0f:fb18:402:5::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ports@lordcow.org; dmarc=none Received: from lordcow.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 38PF83GR042006 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:08:03 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow@lordcow.org) X-Authentication-Warning: lordcow.org: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lordcow.org Received: (from lordcow@localhost) by lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2/Submit) id 38PF7vXr041908 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:07:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:07:57 +0200 From: Gareth de Vaux To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: sysutils/devcpu-data deprecated Message-ID: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on lordcow.org X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.11 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2:c]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.19)[0.186]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lordcow.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37199, ipnet:2c0f:fb18::/32, country:ZA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvR8565ttz4bZV Hi all, since sysutils/devcpu-data has been deprecated what is the process to upgrade to sysutils/cpu-microcode ? Should devcpu-data be removed (or left as is) and then cpu-microcode installed? Presumably this will just change the firmware file to be loaded at boot time and not affect the currently running system? 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: Gareth de Vaux , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25/09/23 17:06, Gareth de Vaux wrote: > Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down since > it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed > around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have ever > remotely expected to need for a ports build. > > My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: > > # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM > > These are the top level dependencies: > > # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list > /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx This one, which calls in py-cryptography which requires rust. > /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf > /usr/ports/security/openssl > /usr/ports/converters/libiconv > /usr/ports/devel/libuv > /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 > /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 > /usr/ports/devel/json-c > /usr/ports/databases/lmdb > /usr/ports/devel/libedit > > Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect > MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. Which itself would > be crazy that just a manpage would trigger this kind of intense build. > That's it actually. sphynx is quite heavy. There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world software is now almost universally build using CI systems and buildboxes, people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers don't care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. 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A patch for this bug was pushed > yesterday. Please update your ports tree and try again. Thanks, confirmed working in 4.0.4_2. From nobody Mon Sep 25 17:35:51 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvVQs1019z4tqW0 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Received: from mail.lordcow.org (lordcow.org [IPv6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "devaux.za.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvVQr4t10z4tgY; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from lordcow.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 38PHZvZg070607 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:35:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow@lordcow.org) X-Authentication-Warning: lordcow.org: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lordcow.org Received: (from lordcow@localhost) by lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2/Submit) id 38PHZp60071699; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:35:51 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:35:51 +0200 From: Gareth de Vaux To: Guido Falsi Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/devcpu-data deprecated Message-ID: References: <98ac46fa-c2d3-8115-7c59-e93a3c92974d@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98ac46fa-c2d3-8115-7c59-e93a3c92974d@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on lordcow.org X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37199, ipnet:2c0f:fb18::/32, country:ZA] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvVQr4t10z4tgY On Mon 2023-09-25 (17:38), Guido Falsi wrote: > UPDATING entry 20230906 has all the details. UPDATING entry 20230906 is the reason for the question - it does not say how to safely migrate - do you uninstall devcpu-data and then install cpu-microcode? From nobody Mon Sep 25 17:50:38 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvVlr2CJRz4trC2 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Received: from mail.lordcow.org (lordcow.org [IPv6:2c0f:fb18:402:5::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "devaux.za.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvVlq69B0z3CWH; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@lordcow.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from lordcow.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 38PHohVd030180 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:50:43 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow@lordcow.org) X-Authentication-Warning: lordcow.org: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be lordcow.org Received: (from lordcow@localhost) by lordcow.org (8.17.2/8.17.2/Submit) id 38PHoc6q030054; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:50:38 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from lordcow) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 19:50:38 +0200 From: Gareth de Vaux To: Guido Falsi Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-ID: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on lordcow.org X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37199, ipnet:2c0f:fb18::/32, country:ZA] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvVlq69B0z3CWH On Mon 2023-09-25 (17:38), Guido Falsi wrote: > This one, which calls in py-cryptography which requires rust. Thanks > There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world > software is now almost universally build using CI systems and buildboxes, > people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers don't > care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports > tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. Understood. Though the situation you point out has been around for decades and this is the first time I've encountered such a chaotic result. From nobody Mon Sep 25 17:56:25 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvVtT70cBz4trcD for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvVtT4Xv6z3F6x for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010581934B; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 10:56:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roble.com; s=rs060402; t=1695664586; bh=yc3p6AgfOehoFPsvyqCH2cXpVq8l1L2NKZTWvYgiMCs=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=RvAgmOhxMt42Y8c3BaMIcaqWDsB/8vMdLBm8c6+UxIfOaUoHma2IPuse15AriDpV5 E709K9Zyk+KsHLgiGXfFqfnJasUkO3GCM4FU6GEW67tq5BFIL94DjBZjK6yT2mH+NI kTQL/WtCKjEeKDbd/EExaldjEARoFnvnAQtGZR3c= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 10:56:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: Gareth de Vaux cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17403, ipnet:209.237.0.0/18, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvVtT4Xv6z3F6x You might also try: echo "CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--without-python --disable-linux-caps" >> /usr/ports/dns/bind916 before building. Heads-up as these CONFIGURE_ARGS won't persist a "make config". Roger Marquis > Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down since > it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed > around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have ever > remotely expected to need for a ports build. > > My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: > > # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM > > These are the top level dependencies: > > # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list > /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx > /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf > /usr/ports/security/openssl > /usr/ports/converters/libiconv > /usr/ports/devel/libuv > /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 > /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 > /usr/ports/devel/json-c > /usr/ports/databases/lmdb > /usr/ports/devel/libedit > > Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect > MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. 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I don't get the question. You just run the commands suggested in the updating entry, and then can remove the old devcpu packages. Or vice versa. 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In the rest of the unix world >> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and buildboxes, >> people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers don't >> care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports >> tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. > > Understood. Though the situation you point out has been around for decades > and this is the first time I've encountered such a chaotic result. > One can drive a car without using seat belts for years without any injury [1], dies this mean seat belts are unnecessary? 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In the rest of the unix world >>> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and >>> buildboxes, >>> people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers >>> don't >>> care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports >>> tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. >> >> Understood. Though the situation you point out has been around for >> decades >> and this is the first time I've encountered such a chaotic result. >> Anyway, in this specific case, simply be ready to see rust being requested as a build dependency of more and more software. Not that I approve, or disapprove, for that matter, of it, but this is the direction we're headed to. > > One can drive a car without using seat belts for years without any > injury [1], dies this mean seat belts are unnecessary? > > [1] if he is lucky enough to never cause or be involved (without any > blame) in a crash, even minor one. > -- Guido Falsi From nobody Mon Sep 25 20:03:24 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvYj66bbxz4v14s for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvYj63ZwHz3Vys; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 38PK3P84030610; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 13:03:24 -0700 From: Chris To: Guido Falsi Cc: Gareth de Vaux , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <343f2abb-6a3e-0193-f4bc-5db69c8021f5@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: portmaster@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvYj63ZwHz3Vys On 2023-09-25 11:38, Guido Falsi wrote: > On 25/09/23 20:33, Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 25/09/23 19:50, Gareth de Vaux wrote: >>> On Mon 2023-09-25 (17:38), Guido Falsi wrote: >>>> This one, which calls in py-cryptography which requires rust. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>>> There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world >>>> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and buildboxes, >>>> people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers don't >>>> care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports >>>> tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. >>> >>> Understood. Though the situation you point out has been around for decades >>> and this is the first time I've encountered such a chaotic result. >>> > > Anyway, in this specific case, simply be ready to see rust being requested > as a > build dependency of more and more software. > > Not that I approve, or disapprove, for that matter, of it, but this is the > direction we're headed to. Couldn't one overcome this problem by using an antioxidant, or even a rust remover? ;-) Sorry. 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Hausen" In-Reply-To: <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:29:04 +0200 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> To: George Mitchell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.77 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.968]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.29.32.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16188, ipnet:217.29.32.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[2003:a:d59:3800:3535:7779:6bbe:dd75:server fail,217.29.41.227:server fail]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[punkt.de]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvZGq35hDz3ZsX Hi all, > Am 25.09.2023 um 22:21 schrieb George Mitchell = : >=20 > On 9/25/23 11:38, Guido Falsi wrote: >> [...] >> There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world = software is now almost universally build using CI systems and = buildboxes, people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. = Developers don't care to keep low overhead in their builds and with = dependency. The ports tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. >> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad = practice for a lot of reasons. >> [...] > And yet it mostly works for some of us. I'd be overjoyed to sign up > with the program (using packages only) if packages not using CUPS > (that would run with unassisted lpr) were available, let's say as a > flavor. But until then ... -- George really not intending to be the wise guy, but if you have any significant number of machines to manage and special package requirements, please by all means run poudriere. It's a marvelous piece of software. We went that way early 2017 and never looked back. Kind regards, Patrick --=20 punkt.de GmbH Patrick M. 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In the rest of the unix world >> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and >> buildboxes, people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. >> Developers don't care to keep low overhead in their builds and with >> dependency. The ports tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. >> >> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad >> practice for a lot of reasons. >> [...] > And yet it mostly works for some of us.  I'd be overjoyed to sign up > with the program (using packages only) if packages not using CUPS > (that would run with unassisted lpr) were available, let's say as a > flavor.  But until then ...                               -- George > Just for the record I did not say that people should use precompiled packages. In fact there is nothing bad in building your own packages with custom options. The bad practice is running "make install" on a live server or live machine, for various reasons. Building things can fill ram/disk/cpu, interfere with other software, other installed software can interfere with the build, etc. building should be done on a dedicated machine. By hand or using custom scripts or specific tools, this would avoid a lot of issues that are going to byte. But apart from these considerations anyone is obviously free to do whatever he wants with his machines. What I am trying to convey is that installing software via "make install" in port directories is becoming more and more problematic as time goes on due to pressures coming from outside the ports tree and FreeBSD world, on which we have very little power. -- Guido Falsi From nobody Mon Sep 25 20:39:06 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvZVC6wLZz4v3Kg for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [74.104.188.4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "m5p.com", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvZVC1GSdz3cmZ for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of george+freebsd@m5p.com designates 74.104.188.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=george+freebsd@m5p.com; dmarc=none Received: from [IPV6:2001:470:1f07:15ff::26] (court.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff:0:0:0:26]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 38PKd60o090270 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:39:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Message-ID: <6fd5dbf4-3fc5-a728-d751-d58deeabe933@m5p.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:39:06 -0400 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: ports@freebsd.org References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> From: George Mitchell In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HELO_NO_DOMAIN,NICE_REPLY_A autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:74.104.0.0/16, country:US]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[m5p.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvZVC1GSdz3cmZ On 9/25/23 16:29, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > [...] > really not intending to be the wise guy, but if you have any significant > number of machines to manage and special package requirements, > please by all means run poudriere. It's a marvelous piece of software. > > We went that way early 2017 and never looked back. > [...] I tried it when it was first made available and it caused a crash of the whole system. No doubt it is much better now, but it's also a huge heavyweight operation by my standards, and my unapproved method (update packages when they develop security problems, using partmaster) works well enough for me. -- George From nobody Mon Sep 25 20:41:14 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvZXg651gz4v3Lt for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [74.104.188.4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "m5p.com", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvZXf3XcVz3dY0 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f400::/48]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvbJ434Cjz4GvD On 9/25/23 13:39, George Mitchell wrote: > On 9/25/23 16:29, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >> [...] >> really not intending to be the wise guy, but if you have any significant >> number of machines to manage and special package requirements, >> please by all means run poudriere. It's a marvelous piece of software. >> >> We went that way early 2017 and never looked back. >> [...] > > I tried it when it was first made available and it caused a crash of > the whole system.  No doubt it is much better now, but it's also a > huge heavyweight operation by my standards, and my unapproved method > (update packages when they develop security problems, using partmaster) > works well enough for me.                                    -- George Poudriere still causes crashes in my experience depending on hardware, poudriere configuration, and what you tell it to build; I have to change defaults to use it and then it is fine. With only 32GB of RAM, if I have it operate the whole build process in RAM (USE_TMPFS=all>/usr/local/etc/poudriere) then I have to limit myself to 2 build jobs (PARALLEL_JOBS=2, though I specify it on the poudriere command line) or I 'may' have issues. Within that I can have multiple jobs per build (ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=yes>/usr/local/etc/poudriere, MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=4>/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf) which gets through each compile job much faster so no one job is as likely to be running 'alone' holding up other jobs while cores sit idle. I usually use `/usr/bin/nice -n 18 /usr/sbin/idprio 31 ` at the start of my poudriere command and move on with my life letting it run in the background while using the same computer with usually little impact observed other than 'it takes a while'. On my system, MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=# of cpu cores which combined with PARALLEL_JOBS means I should have up to 2 compile tasks per core coming in from poudriere. I heard synth was a lighter build process/environment compared to poudriere which wants to reset the build environment to be fresh per package but never tested it out myself. Switching from portmaster and portupgrade avoided a lot of nuisance failures as a decent # of ports 'silently' use things outside the ports tree that they are not supposed to use so should be marked as build isn't compatible with that port being installed; when a port like avahi (if my memory serves) needs to be marked incompatible with itself and it is a dependency of many ports, it meant either downtime during rebuild or software would be flakey if trying to continue using it while the rebuild of it + dependent software was rebuilt. Technically software that is accessing local tools and files dynamically at compile time should all be forced to not do so if we want any package consistency and software that is incompatible should be fixed to stop accessing already installed files that it is supposed to be the one to provide or at least be marked as broken for doing so. Usually I only found these build failures occasionally when 'incompatibilities' arose between installed version vs what the build preemptively makes or dynamic dependencies changed what gets installed leading to untracked files. It hit much worse when I upgraded from i386 to amd64 in place instead of remove+reinstall; many packages were caught 'reaching out' to i386 counterparts that they were not supposed to touch by the failures that resulted. Unless these issues are actively being found+fixed, tools like portmaster and portupgrade need manual steps always called out in UPDATING (which did 'not' call nearly as many of these as I found) or shouldn't be recommended unless teaching users of such pitfalls and give them an idea to notice+fix them. If any porters know of ways to avoid calling local tools and libraries when the correct ones should only be called form the build directory I would really appreciate learning. I doubt anyone cares enough but installing i386 package then trying to locally build the amd64 port looked like the easiest way I knew of to catch these issues but would also like knowing a better way (only catches binary incompatibilities and not the general accessing files that shouldn't be) and don't know if pkgng would even let me test such a run. From nobody Mon Sep 25 21:41:07 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvbsm5WChz4v6WT for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (fuz.su [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:e508::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "fuz.su", Issuer "fuz.su" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rvbsm2nVkz4Jw2 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fuz.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 38PLf7UY008830 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Sep 2023 23:41:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: (from fuz@localhost) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 38PLf7P5008829; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 23:41:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 23:41:07 +0200 From: Robert Clausecker To: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-ID: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> <6fd5dbf4-3fc5-a728-d751-d58deeabe933@m5p.com> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rvbsm2nVkz4Jw2 Am Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 02:15:19PM -0700 schrieb Edward Sanford Sutton, III: > Poudriere still causes crashes in my experience depending on hardware, > poudriere configuration, and what you tell it to build; I have to change > defaults to use it and then it is fine. With only 32GB of RAM, if I have it > operate the whole build process in RAM > (USE_TMPFS=all>/usr/local/etc/poudriere) then I have to limit myself to 2 > build jobs (PARALLEL_JOBS=2, though I specify it on the poudriere command > line) or I 'may' have issues. Within that I can have multiple jobs per build > (ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=yes>/usr/local/etc/poudriere, > MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=4>/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf) which gets through > each compile job much faster so no one job is as likely to be running > 'alone' holding up other jobs while cores sit idle. Ports tend to eat more and more storage for their source and dependencies these days. I encountered the same issue you had. A simple fix is to switch to USE_TMPFS="data localbase" which keeps the source code and objects of the package to be built on disk while placing dependencies into RAM. This does not actually reduce performance by much as the biggest spike in disk usage is when dependencies are installed and the distfile is extracted. This setting helps with the former while not doing much to the latter. During the build, compilers infrequently write small objects to disk, which gets handled very well by the write cache, so having the WRKDIR on disk doesn't hurt. The cache also quickly picks up on frequently needed source files, so there's little penalty in having to read them from disk every once in a while. After I configured Poudriere like this, I never had any whole-system crashes again. As for the number of jubs, I recommend overcommitting by a factor of 1.5. So for n CPUs, 1.5n jobs should run in total. E.g. on an 8 CPU machine I use PARALLEL_JOBS=6 with MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=2. This works well for when there are many small packages, but can be a bit annoying if you are only waiting for one big dependency (like LLVM) to build. Enabling ccache can help here. I hope this helps you improve your setup. Yours, Robert Clausecker -- () ascii ribbon campaign - for an 8-bit clean world /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments From nobody Mon Sep 25 21:58:23 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvcG15MwDz4v7Y2 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [IPv6:2620:137:6000:10::142]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "prime.gushi.org", Issuer "RapidSSL Global TLS RSA4096 SHA256 2022 CA1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvcG12pxJz4LVs for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple ([IPv6:2601:602:87f:b05d:2108:9e3c:b4d0:ae26]) (authenticated bits=0) by prime.gushi.org (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPSA id 38PLwhcG091944 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:58:44 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 prime.gushi.org 38PLwhcG091944 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gushi.org; s=prime2014; t=1695679124; bh=ECAKrAWdFCtm1Icnbo8cpMf27hP1L3SD090U5gLQcdk=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; z=Subject:=20Re:=20dns/bind916=20builds=20rust=20unexpectedly|From: =20Dan=20Mahoney=20|In-Reply-To:=20|Date:=20Mon,=2025=20Sep=202023=2014:58:23=20-0700|Cc :=20"Edward=20Sanford=20Sutton,=20III"=20,= 0D=0A=20ports@freebsd.org|References:=20=0D=0A=20<1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org>=0D =0A=20<11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<6fd5dbf4-3fc5- a728-d751-d58deeabe933@m5p.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20|To:=20Robert=20Clausecker=20; b=heIsyHdZ+yGfT31R8WnWpzgxLEQVZH0QFiWtWA79bhpNkjYAAkorkEa38GiUIne4b jDjxriNA7t2Mz480LEyVeIVKo4JU63rdIO5nUWGJFAmWdot2POL8C+bAY+mBUG1fc1 JMicE9Uk8zwnltsR1ZA0hDmxZi6q1Nhz/mpSmEcRdIeRHnYnOASSwhjvjRkiyT/WNY TyCeKZV6aYK6SpRsYViVxN3Bn9oxwnvBWjkD3wk3BjLgeDVaZj9ZtlihBP6o5UFjU2 xknIBkXX4lLjuILdSZHEPpoeKqrtp74RnhGffxJnpLX5aRbxejooyvAb/sFG2drHMe BVQSwEr7ttPgQ== X-Authentication-Warning: prime.gushi.org: Host [IPv6:2601:602:87f:b05d:2108:9e3c:b4d0:ae26] claimed to be smtpclient.apple Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly From: Dan Mahoney In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:58:23 -0700 Cc: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" , ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> <6fd5dbf4-3fc5-a728-d751-d58deeabe933@m5p.com> To: Robert Clausecker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:393507, ipnet:2620:137:6000::/44, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvcG12pxJz4LVs > On Sep 25, 2023, at 14:41, Robert Clausecker wrote: >=20 > Am Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 02:15:19PM -0700 schrieb Edward Sanford = Sutton, III: >> Poudriere still causes crashes in my experience depending on = hardware, >> poudriere configuration, and what you tell it to build; I have to = change >> defaults to use it and then it is fine. With only 32GB of RAM, if I = have it >> operate the whole build process in RAM >> (USE_TMPFS=3Dall>/usr/local/etc/poudriere) then I have to limit = myself to 2 >> build jobs (PARALLEL_JOBS=3D2, though I specify it on the poudriere = command >> line) or I 'may' have issues. Within that I can have multiple jobs = per build >> (ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes>/usr/local/etc/poudriere, >> MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3D4>/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf) which gets = through >> each compile job much faster so no one job is as likely to be running >> 'alone' holding up other jobs while cores sit idle. >=20 > Ports tend to eat more and more storage for their source and = dependencies these > days. I encountered the same issue you had. A simple fix is to = switch to > USE_TMPFS=3D"data localbase" which keeps the source code and objects = of the package > to be built on disk while placing dependencies into RAM. This does = not actually > reduce performance by much as the biggest spike in disk usage is when = dependencies > are installed and the distfile is extracted. This setting helps with = the former > while not doing much to the latter. During the build, compilers = infrequently > write small objects to disk, which gets handled very well by the write = cache, so > having the WRKDIR on disk doesn't hurt. The cache also quickly picks = up on > frequently needed source files, so there's little penalty in having to = read them > from disk every once in a while. I really, really wish the ports tree supported the option of: "I am building package X, but it requires dependency A, B, and C, which = I will build as completely standard, so pretty friggin please, just pkg = install them." So often have I done the dance of "Make...crap, ^c^c^c, pkg install = autoconf...Make, ...dammit... pkg install = dialog4ports....make....dammit, crap install bison...." pkg, as far as I know, has no concept of tracking the build-dependencies = of a thing, but I would love the option of pkg = --install-all-build-deps-for foo. 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That's fine if you can afford a spare system just for building... -- Dave From nobody Mon Sep 25 22:06:26 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvcQs1BFpz4v7yL for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (fuz.su [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:e508::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "fuz.su", Issuer "fuz.su" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvcQr6zxxz4Nm7 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fuz.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 38PM6Qa6008950 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:06:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: (from fuz@localhost) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 38PM6QsI008949; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:06:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:06:26 +0200 From: Robert Clausecker To: Dan Mahoney Cc: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-ID: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> <6fd5dbf4-3fc5-a728-d751-d58deeabe933@m5p.com> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvcQr6zxxz4Nm7 Hi Dan, Am Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 02:58:23PM -0700 schrieb Dan Mahoney: > I really, really wish the ports tree supported the option of: > > "I am building package X, but it requires dependency A, B, and C, > which I will build as completely standard, so pretty friggin please, > just pkg install them." I think you can do "make install-missing-packages" for that. > "Just run poudriere" is a really crappy option when you just have a > single box on an AWS t2-tiny install. Funnily enough, recent Poudriere also has an option to just download all packages except the ones you want to build from online. Check poudriere-bulk(8) for the new -b option. 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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5716, ipnet:202.12.127.0/24, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protected-networks.net:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvcY30PL4z4PqQ On 9/25/23 18:06, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Guido Falsi wrote: > >> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad practice >> for a lot of reasons. > > That's fine if you can afford a spare system just for building... .. and identical architectures, specifications and usage, Michael From nobody Mon Sep 25 22:33:55 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvd321XpJz4v9TJ for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rvd3120TGz4SZW; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-80-101.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.80.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.16.1/8.16.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 38PMXtdE020239; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:33:56 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:33:55 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: Chris Cc: Guido Falsi , Gareth de Vaux , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-Id: <20230926073355.a3fc4bbc3595fd08e1080470@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <343f2abb-6a3e-0193-f4bc-5db69c8021f5@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rvd3120TGz4SZW On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 13:03:24 -0700 Chris wrote: > On 2023-09-25 11:38, Guido Falsi wrote: > > On 25/09/23 20:33, Guido Falsi wrote: > >> On 25/09/23 19:50, Gareth de Vaux wrote: > >>> On Mon 2023-09-25 (17:38), Guido Falsi wrote: > >>>> This one, which calls in py-cryptography which requires rust. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>>> There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world > >>>> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and buildboxes, > >>>> people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers don't > >>>> care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports > >>>> tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. > >>> > >>> Understood. Though the situation you point out has been around for decades > >>> and this is the first time I've encountered such a chaotic result. > >>> > > > > Anyway, in this specific case, simply be ready to see rust being requested > > as a > > build dependency of more and more software. > > > > Not that I approve, or disapprove, for that matter, of it, but this is the > > direction we're headed to. > > Couldn't one overcome this problem by using an antioxidant, or even a rust > remover? ;-) > Sorry. Couldn't resist. The largest pain about rust for me is that all dependencies (including BUILD_DEPEND'ed ones) are bumped when rust is updated. It's maybe because of (forcibly) statically linked object, like crt.o in C, is incorporated. If it's true, splitting them into individual port would decrease the needs to bump dependencies, to only when the source for those objects are modified and/or changes in such as code generator makes the resulting objects backwward incompatible way. > >> One can drive a car without using seat belts for years without any injury > >> [1], dies this mean seat belts are unnecessary? > >> > >> [1] if he is lucky enough to never cause or be involved (without any blame) > >> in a crash, even minor one. -- Tomoaki AOKI From nobody Mon Sep 25 22:43:02 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvdF62cZ4z4v9YM; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from smtp.burggraben.net (smtp.burggraben.net [88.198.69.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.burggraben.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvdF537PQz4THJ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cmt@burggraben.net designates 88.198.69.140 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cmt@burggraben.net; dmarc=none Received: from elch.exwg.net (elch.exwg.net [IPv6:2001:470:7120:1:127b:44ff:fe4f:148d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "elch.exwg.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAC39C0030C; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elch.exwg.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4EF0F3AB06; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 00:43:02 +0200 From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder To: perl@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2 fails to compile/link Message-ID: References: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.12 (2023-09-09) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:88.198.69.140]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[88.198.69.140:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org,perl@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[burggraben.net]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[cmt]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:88.198.0.0/16, country:DE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvdF537PQz4THJ ## Matthias Apitz (guru@unixarea.de): > Creating enum POD... > Can't find 'boot_Gtk2' symbol in blib/arch/auto/Gtk2/Gtk2.so > at tools/podifystockitems.pl line 0. That's fallout from devel/pkgconf - it got botched in 8e3a5d951e, fixed in 4a1614a51d and broken again in 041cacb90b (same problem as in the first commit, only now upstream carries the problematic patch themselves (instead of the working patch), meh). 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 000a40542b26bd22becd8bb8158865d1; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 01:02:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:02:31 -0700 To: freebsd@gushi.org, FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) References: X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.32:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.32:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvhLG0v15z3CmB Dan Mahoney wrote on Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 21:58:23 UTC : > > . . . >=20 > I really, really wish the ports tree supported the option of: >=20 > "I am building package X, but it requires dependency A, B, and C, = which I will build as completely standard, so pretty friggin please, = just pkg install them." This seems to presume that the packages currently available and the ports tree subset involved for them are still fully/well matching. But it takes so long to build (and distribute) the 30,000+ packages (or any large incremental subset or subset that involves huge builds) that a fair number ports have had updates before the distribution completes and starts being available. This can lead to it being difficult to have the overall result not end up with mismatches that matter. (Identifying those is nontrivial of itself.) As I understand, some folks look up the ports commit that was used to do the package builds being distributed and check out the ports tree commit that exactly matches what was used to build the distribution materials that they got. But then progressing specific things of interest can be involved for starting from that coherent state. (It can be messy to know which build the active distribution materials are based on as well.) Dependency hell on this scale is messy to deal with by all paths, different tradeoffs involved for each as far as I can tell. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Tue Sep 26 01:23:11 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvhnt33SNz4vLlm for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 01:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rvhns6Rtxz3HJ9 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 01:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291251A38E; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roble.com; s=rs060402; t=1695691391; bh=aT3MwLO2G0hWBWIVawLLWnGDNUPlJnExt7VvKXMl7go=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=g27kRHp+fqx25HtBuKZo2MLOMBhFZpp0TxDtWR94QOZJObR3lp0A/2lH8GkIXovvR f3LFgJjdmS/9KNsIjFJAxBvjcAJxAATbMZrrWi+knagMSVwMSU20aMdTtrt3iy0CQZ gZV/NiHysEOcgXGbJfwls7lodZCabg7Xvp5Rjmhg= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: Mark Millard cc: freebsd@gushi.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8834n7o7-pns7-5r31-oo33-rr52q2n01s64@mx.roble.com> References: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17403, ipnet:209.237.0.0/18, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rvhns6Rtxz3HJ9 On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Mark Millard wrote: > ... it takes so long to build (and distribute) the 30,000+ > packages (or any large incremental subset or subset that > involves huge builds) that a fair number ports have had > updates before the distribution completes and starts being Even just getting the ports tree updated can take days (or more) even after vulnerabilities are patched. Take bind9 for example. We use Poudriere for most updates but not bind9 as it often should be patched as soon as updates are are available. If you wait for gitup or Poudriere to pull a new Makefile, even with nothing more than a new version string, it can take days (2 or 3 days for the most recent patch). It's not an issue here as we a) edit the Makefile to specify the current version, b) make makesum, c) make sure the build does not use python (by manually editing the port's options file, d) make package and e) pkg install (or update), which takes maybe 10 minutes. It sounds like what we really need om this case is just a way to maintain options keys and values that are not specified in the Makefile. Of course that won't work for all bloated packages but it would help. Roger Marquis From nobody Tue Sep 26 01:24:19 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvhq918Tjz4vLRx for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 01:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rvhq90546z3Hwr for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 01:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54D21A1AF; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:24:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roble.com; s=rs060402; t=1695691459; bh=r9JqXMtcvqyrKnOx9Kz/1fyfnyZ4jqbv+ZJN2TSrSfo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=K3Zk+HvqMwCrG8AaAKdmzHKxx6RihSSau+t8U4kHgP2pM+NvG9X1gKi6jNMl2F44K S/ZRNA45nr4v5sPpdIqYBHDCSjnmUisq45YNtfdQYAjAuajxNaFNOqgObSM491eFoV wM+EmI7ZdFNLjqEAoU3x3kS1BM6AuEKrDKwKEIuI= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:24:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: Dave Horsfall cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0r0nrsnr-2954-r260-04o4-2458205pn5n7@mx.roble.com> References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17403, ipnet:209.237.0.0/18, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rvhq90546z3Hwr Dave Horsfall wrote: >> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad practice > That's fine if you can afford a spare system just for building... Or $5/mo for a Digitalocean VM. 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From nobody Tue Sep 26 06:53:18 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvr6z2b44z4tjyy for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 06:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Received: from nuc.oldach.net (hmo.in-vpn.de [IPv6:2001:67c:1407:60::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "hmo.in-vpn.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rvr6x6rbwz4Kl8 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 06:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@oldach.net designates 2001:67c:1407:60::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@oldach.net; dmarc=none Received: from nuc.oldach.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nuc.oldach.net (8.17.2/8.17.2) with ESMTPS id 38Q6rIb6011934 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:53:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by nuc.oldach.net (8.17.2/8.17.2) id 38Q6rISB011933; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:53:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@oldach.net) Message-Id: <202309260653.38Q6rISB011933@nuc.oldach.net> Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: from Gareth de Vaux at "25 Sep 2023 17:06:54" To: ports@lordcow.org (Gareth de Vaux) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: freebsd@oldach.net (Helge Oldach) X-No-Archive: Yes List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (nuc.oldach.net [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:53:19 +0200 (CEST) for IP:127.0.0.1 DOMAIN:localhost HELO:nuc.oldach.net FROM:freebsd@oldach.net RCPT: X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.67)[-0.671]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29670, ipnet:2001:67c:1400::/45, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[2001:67c:1407:60::1:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[oldach.net]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rvr6x6rbwz4Kl8 Gareth de Vaux wrote on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:54 +0200 (CEST): > Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down since > it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed > around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have ever > remotely expected to need for a ports build. > > My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: > > # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM > > These are the top level dependencies: > > # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list > /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx > /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf > /usr/ports/security/openssl > /usr/ports/converters/libiconv > /usr/ports/devel/libuv > /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 > /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 > /usr/ports/devel/json-c > /usr/ports/databases/lmdb > /usr/ports/devel/libedit > > Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect > MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. Which itself would > be crazy that just a manpage would trigger this kind of intense build. > Indeed, it's py-sphinx, requiring py-openssl at some stage, which is in turn requiring py-cryptography which needs rust. DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=pycryptography=legacy in make.conf fixed this BS for me. Beware of the dogs, you might get bitten by software that requires the new py-cryptography - I did stumble over py-certbot and py-awscli for example. 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With only 32GB of RAM, if I have it >>> operate the whole build process in RAM >>> (USE_TMPFS=all>/usr/local/etc/poudriere) then I have to limit myself to 2 >>> build jobs (PARALLEL_JOBS=2, though I specify it on the poudriere command >>> line) or I 'may' have issues. Within that I can have multiple jobs per build >>> (ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=yes>/usr/local/etc/poudriere, >>> MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=4>/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf) which gets through >>> each compile job much faster so no one job is as likely to be running >>> 'alone' holding up other jobs while cores sit idle. >> >> Ports tend to eat more and more storage for their source and dependencies these >> days. I encountered the same issue you had. A simple fix is to switch to >> USE_TMPFS="data localbase" which keeps the source code and objects of the package >> to be built on disk while placing dependencies into RAM. This does not actually >> reduce performance by much as the biggest spike in disk usage is when dependencies >> are installed and the distfile is extracted. This setting helps with the former >> while not doing much to the latter. During the build, compilers infrequently >> write small objects to disk, which gets handled very well by the write cache, so >> having the WRKDIR on disk doesn't hurt. The cache also quickly picks up on >> frequently needed source files, so there's little penalty in having to read them >> from disk every once in a while. > > I really, really wish the ports tree supported the option of: > > "I am building package X, but it requires dependency A, B, and C, which I will build as completely standard, so pretty friggin please, just pkg install them." > > So often have I done the dance of "Make...crap, ^c^c^c, pkg install autoconf...Make, ...dammit... pkg install dialog4ports....make....dammit, crap install bison...." > > pkg, as far as I know, has no concept of tracking the build-dependencies of a thing, but I would love the option of pkg --install-all-build-deps-for foo. > > "Just run poudriere" is a really crappy option when you just have a single box on an AWS t2-tiny install. > There is work in poudriere development to support using binary packages for dependencies. [1] Poudriere already has a -S flag to avoid rebuilding things when a run dependency changes. I see there is ongoing work related with this flag, but it should be usable most of the time, although it exposes to some of the same risks that building manually causes. [2] DISLAIMER: Everyone is free to manage his own machines as he sees fit, there is really no sanctioned way to do that, and building ports on live machines is supported, and I have fixed bugs in the ports I maintain that failed to build properly in such an environment, and will keep doing that to the best of my abilities. But I also must state that doing things like that is a way to look for unnecessary trouble. Poudriere is resource hungry, because building software is resource hungry and will get even hungrier. I started computing on a Spectrum 48K and am still baffled by how we got to a condition where 48K is not even enough for a simple configuration file, but here we are. 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: Helge Oldach , Gareth de Vaux Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <202309260653.38Q6rISB011933@nuc.oldach.net> From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: <202309260653.38Q6rISB011933@nuc.oldach.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26/09/23 08:53, Helge Oldach wrote: > Gareth de Vaux wrote on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:54 +0200 (CEST): >> Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down since >> it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed >> around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have ever >> remotely expected to need for a ports build. >> >> My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: >> >> # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE >> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM >> >> These are the top level dependencies: >> >> # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list >> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg >> /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx >> /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf >> /usr/ports/security/openssl >> /usr/ports/converters/libiconv >> /usr/ports/devel/libuv >> /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 >> /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 >> /usr/ports/devel/json-c >> /usr/ports/databases/lmdb >> /usr/ports/devel/libedit >> >> Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect >> MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. Which itself would >> be crazy that just a manpage would trigger this kind of intense build. >> > > Indeed, it's py-sphinx, requiring py-openssl at some stage, which is in > turn requiring py-cryptography which needs rust. > > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=pycryptography=legacy > > in make.conf fixed this BS for me. Beware of the dogs, you might get > bitten by software that requires the new py-cryptography - I did stumble > over py-certbot and py-awscli for example. py-cryptography was kept at an old version for a long time, for various reasons, the new mandatory dependency on rust being the main one. But that old version does not work with OpenSSL 3, so the update of OpenSSL in FreeBSD 14 imposed the update of py-cryptography. This is the perfect example of why I say: - there are external pressures we have little power on (keeping an old OpenSSL indefinitely is not an option) - keeping old version of software (to avoid heavy dependencies or whatever) is a landmine waiting to go off The problem showed up now because the landmine of keeping an old version of py-cryptography in the tree finally went off. 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It means that rust is so pervasive that rust builds are unavoidable :) During the build of rust, we can take off and do some light exercise. That is to avoid strained back :) If you are using a combination of poudriere and portmaster and do not want to build rust twice, the following spells it out. sh -c 'pkg version -q -l \< | cut -f 1 -w | xargs -- pkg query %n:%n-%v | while IFS=":'\$'{IFS}" read n nv ; do find /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages/ -regex "\(^.*/\)*All/'\$'{n}-[^-/]*.pkg" -not -name "'\$'{nv}" ; done' This allows us to collect the paths of packages that need updating and have already been built by poudriere. Then replace them with pkg delete and pkg add. If autoremove needs to work effectively, a little more arrangement is required. I will omit that :) Regards. From nobody Tue Sep 26 07:44:51 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvsGF14HZz4tmn9 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvsGF0QBxz4TS5; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695714293; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n1Xi3y1ZOGuj8MRwVI7cV4QB7a177Owm91LHH9Uqj1E=; b=E8PTP9UQXkGHuEwzlSd5ay+xiNP/UiBYAIJA9/qq6j2gK8RVwFJFdG0MJRXIItyCMKVxR9 ZT2JNPO12YYf7xHLY5/mvaVYquJKi0nzNhXejnBu/ZOJ0JHIVU2cuJlelX0T9NcRQm/kBm FLH8ekRPgYS5h4ijzrgsT/h4wHq0EIvB+iPfI0CZhr1/PqRsh8qiC5Ya9ZRRBtLFC6ZFcr VnZAJ68djdl9Et3mpaKqStQ7E2mGaQNfQ1vZUo7jeV71CxtcuB71Eb8E0uZmC4LmAoK9fe MFsqmaFyp3so6NrNryyHbeqtIax1NzGfT6/SDWXTuGaOD1F3UR7hICuIhRRYgw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1695714293; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oesofmktpRs4XbKeBroTO6KpjnE/BCywgcu5XZ4J6H5Lv5moc7vd+2iRqTvkGjZzGawUFV rxw08rPgaQk89YgmmqsGhjBk+Ek/Q/LF5LZ6X5++pbMe0HsfEBnSsAdcywObZNk9f9N0J2 ebqs29imPgOLGE0H/+wPetVd4d/6n+gnSGHq7zL0xFIATdhT8EOSOJ5eV8t5ScdVO4zs6i UYhtIityZIN/CWCsSgVkc+syKRMLRl4is0JoZ0LcTTYlc+H6izri7sLoRK89p4M64jWJaJ kROEDsT9FgT79r6gjr35ZZD0g/rGxAK4OLG0He5vmDWOrMrg7pUJTbGZnw5GRQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695714293; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n1Xi3y1ZOGuj8MRwVI7cV4QB7a177Owm91LHH9Uqj1E=; b=Hg32rszy7G+5SblaD0XHRFphCRCJy3b3PoMVDUsUKZI/mbzq9tQm/sC7smP2TPLTSpt/Oa Qa5tbdxGagsyJ/lWqP8jhKPW6dCb9r3v2RLTma6fsZXX9JlSYHJbcIJMqiFAe+xtXxGh86 e3IK67NkG4ll3mZCA5yC2wnQbWvCv2o3sCbqcHg4LrT2DKyMyz9VfAI0nUy5tWNUj6ltZj A6bQa0IrGBvmOmjNu52rFbe1Kc4ghLitlIuvnB4tZWKKRPrY4fK06MEl25ClJNI9R03n0i Hjg9slpEjNfGy/VnZzUpdlcKXf7+kxA6ts2glwBZt5uCwjE7xCSd/L1r/2bS6g== Received: from [IPV6:2a01:e11:2002:4280::13:1] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e11:2002:4280::13:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: madpilot/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4RvsGD49sBz6XC; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:44:51 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US To: Tatsuki Makino , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" References: From: Guido Falsi Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26/09/23 09:30, Tatsuki Makino wrote: > Hello. > > It means that rust is so pervasive that rust builds are unavoidable :) Actually it's much worse than that. It's not only rust per se. My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed up thanks to ccache) etc. I do not approve of this, but the world is going in that direction, especially for desktop oriented software but not only. My conclusion is, I have no power to stop this, so I can only adapt, with effort, but still less effort than resisting alone for no benefit. -- Guido Falsi From nobody Tue Sep 26 11:46:06 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvydD3nMLz4v3SL for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 11:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (bastille.leidinger.net [89.238.82.207]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvydD1XLLz3Pk3; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 11:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1695728787; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=pfC8yMG4fgwMT5yEGmRWWpGxJEjXykrdp8Nv11veNtc=; b=P68LevpNY/+IF1V7xw99McOYlzFxHGZhz2VUApaW5HDGSQ0mJ2z0quTpa9ziO+8fJVfEcc V4bXuwBaKZyx+yYOUHEz7n3OV/42+shrNPWxCxb0wu+41SFTbI//OPFlzuf2MeKAmaqaCR GXM9w0YF5ynDIAanFgQFL/YShomDZYq+Uz8B36QPfO4Bqe/c/IlpXnuWv1sqLyi5o25y5Q P8Hp2FdR3yIXhvjbXZP0fXx4F/0SXMO4aePo409hSs+5Rl7VFGkuWfFGwNQBR4+vDjXUDS G9p3LSfTaxm7ndVgGP0GlVDsCt+C8P6VEAmhGd4paCWH4n8zc9F0tZEPLWbbDg== Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:46:06 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Guido Falsi Cc: Tatsuki Makino , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: Alexander@Leidinger.net Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_0e8254eda83fdb7f69944dff0760726a"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RvydD1XLLz3Pk3 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_0e8254eda83fdb7f69944dff0760726a Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-09-26 09:44, schrieb Guido Falsi: > My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one > or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, > qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single > threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox > and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up > from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed up > thanks to ccache) etc. ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay is supposed to handle rust with poudriere-devel. I haven't tried it yet, but it's on my list to try to get the rust build time down. Bye, Alexander. -- http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander@Leidinger.net: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild@FreeBSD.org : PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF --=_0e8254eda83fdb7f69944dff0760726a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc; size=833 Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEER9UlYXp1PSd08nWXEg2wmwP42IYFAmUSxJAACgkQEg2wmwP4 2IafVRAAk8XlV4ZXxscpw3a9Mdj5psuP7x7kUOAJ/ucHgIazOsT+qTt4+DHyrbZE 0MeYyzjhRJh0ik+Q8GxLzlQMCMYHq+vQYPRV7Of3D3v+1JGTP3/ZPdYGw1LhEtvr YzMp37UdhKeife22dbkyj6SaWssNAWFgJ3TBJFdUczh0JHRb1btlASxk0yop7fcd zscJlObhJEgJ50Rgf6R7KbGSxGukGGuOscvoHUUrgnqYdqf3B+8MNoWs+H9hyDbW OvkHygSSB4kObgFNdilR6tAJ4Bda185ppIRuDHolQyFCRCLv3zvpzcCTBBPPo4rk Vw0Do7q4j6ghx6D5vMZeUVg6bM1+DWx4SluMA8Kmdd7Er4KnGF3QUrWXr9TyWqWU AS7xv/cqTnsteHtx0Ghi6v2PoY3hZOuQCTV7HxX+RY1O1DJfznrgM5RtvNm4oLgA LIvFhRn38WrD3p4iXYENcSfXgTVm9H2iumm9lEnEYX7by1tbQgooCz1Vx33F3L3y JFTChqkjxnvr94v5vv8xuTijT8KWXdNVYqyajhHh4SYiO1iU37Oj5FfkPYrVWo+j OnQLXKOINW9ldM6iREkuxJVu4jIehjdfo6d9ZLWMTMxIA0YccdQ7cyHga2UuRO5a k+OYqJRiFjRze94YRAx8Mx2UfagH5pShXQNjhjZB5UubDS2P7kA= =8OrE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_0e8254eda83fdb7f69944dff0760726a-- From nobody Tue Sep 26 12:03:28 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvz0f4VX6z4v4Rm for ; 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Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <109973d1-8865-7373-1703-d5b87bd9ad1b@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:03:28 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: Tatsuki Makino , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26/09/23 13:46, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Am 2023-09-26 09:44, schrieb Guido Falsi: > >> My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one >> or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, >> qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single >> threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox >> and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up >> from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed >> up thanks to ccache) etc. > > ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay is supposed to handle rust with > poudriere-devel. I haven't tried it yet, but it's on my list to try to > get the rust build time down. > Ah, thank you for the information. I did not notice this existed. I'll check on it! -- Guido Falsi From nobody Tue Sep 26 12:06:30 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rvz4J1QhQz4v4dl for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from fc.opsec.eu (fc.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200:4::4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rvz4H63L1z3SF8 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from pi by fc.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.96 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ql6pi-000Ixt-2n; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:06:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:06:30 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-ID: References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12502, ipnet:2001:14f8::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rvz4H63L1z3SF8 Hi! > Am 2023-09-26 09:44, schrieb Guido Falsi: > > > My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one > > or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, > > qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single > > threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox > > and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up > > from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed > > up thanks to ccache) etc. > > ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay is supposed to handle rust with > poudriere-devel. I haven't tried it yet, but it's on my list to try to get > the rust build time down. sccache-overlay upstream is at 0.5.4, the port is at 0.2.15 -- do you know why it diverges that much ? -- pi@FreeBSD.org +49 171 3101372 Now what ? From nobody Tue Sep 26 13:05:33 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rw0NP5mgjz4v7hw for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rw0NN1P0Nz3bNg for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp has no SPF policy when checking 153.125.133.21) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp; dmarc=none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-80-101.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.80.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.16.1/8.16.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 38QD5Xd4047738 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:05:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:05:33 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-Id: <20230926220533.2eeba7d5cda6a651f6cc8532@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <109973d1-8865-7373-1703-d5b87bd9ad1b@FreeBSD.org> References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> <109973d1-8865-7373-1703-d5b87bd9ad1b@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.48 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.983]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rw0NN1P0Nz3bNg On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 14:03:28 +0200 Guido Falsi wrote: > On 26/09/23 13:46, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Am 2023-09-26 09:44, schrieb Guido Falsi: > > > >> My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one > >> or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, > >> qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single > >> threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox > >> and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up > >> from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed > >> up thanks to ccache) etc. > > > > ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay is supposed to handle rust with > > poudriere-devel. I haven't tried it yet, but it's on my list to try to > > get the rust build time down. > > > > Ah, thank you for the information. I did not notice this existed. I'll > check on it! > > -- > Guido Falsi IIRC, poudriere pulls it in on its first build for rust, before I've switched to -devel. Not sure it's actually used or not. But running rustc itself is very, very, very heavy job. It eats up all 6C12T even if only one rustc "process" is running, watching ps. Maybe it is multithreaded and attemps to use all core, including HTT ones, available. hurts severly with UI experience. This is why I try as much proposals as possible for scheduler. -- Tomoaki AOKI From nobody Tue Sep 26 13:37:58 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rw16q5Cs0z4v9rr for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (mailgate.leidinger.net [IPv6:2a00:1828:2000:313::1:5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rw16q2cC9z4Cxt; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1695735526; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=qg8P6tNJQDz6Va3MxJu2sVrisa3Or+RniSKa4I0myGo=; b=Vgxf96N8QkxdfNqS1g07NU+L38wXijZ/2jXJGBTbla8oFDLDIKFV1Hj07l/Gc5V9XN32XW ot2o7kjNzZxS9Z5CbhlOEYGYmjKio6wNGhxoJCw9GrYGrIg56c0IjSpLe4tRNZvk4VutAa YKc23dNVD5b5LSsfrwtIhaysARy9M7suviix2hpD+BS7cvNgSziwUbjcpq8Ckhq3LKXteg Tapn+WDL1+iq6erBP2LpT6pINjaR7Fi2cFPmRH87wareJT0P2X4f5KS0rkXDqtJXDrnxGB TqsH6VLO582zdlNoDOJ88b3/udlp2JbNj0tRTyUstMQ2TPnhmcYZnx9uc2UB9A== Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:37:58 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , pizzamig@freebsd.org, rust@freebsd.org Subject: sccache(-overlay) to speed up rust builds in poudriere (was: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly) In-Reply-To: References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <3fc3bf626fa452be730bcc96d2c10508@Leidinger.net> X-Sender: Alexander@Leidinger.net Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_2e94ecd982ca72ddc73707d445840647"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:2a00:1828::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rw16q2cC9z4Cxt This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_2e94ecd982ca72ddc73707d445840647 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-09-26 14:06, schrieb Kurt Jaeger: > Hi! > >> Am 2023-09-26 09:44, schrieb Guido Falsi: >> >> > My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one >> > or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, >> > qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single >> > threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox >> > and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up >> > from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed >> > up thanks to ccache) etc. >> >> ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay is supposed to handle rust with >> poudriere-devel. I haven't tried it yet, but it's on my list to try to >> get >> the rust build time down. > > sccache-overlay upstream is at 0.5.4, the port is at 0.2.15 -- > do you know why it diverges that much ? devel/sccache is maintained by pizzamig@ (CCed) and at v0.5.4, whereas the ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay port is maintained by rust@ (CCed). Maybe they can shed some light on this... Bye, Alexander. -- http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander@Leidinger.net: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild@FreeBSD.org : PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF --=_2e94ecd982ca72ddc73707d445840647 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc; size=833 Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEER9UlYXp1PSd08nWXEg2wmwP42IYFAmUS3sUACgkQEg2wmwP4 2IbvZw//XQ3oin3JZWHmyfU7H+lr6zSy706t2walb+5zy8aLwm7QeK+UvkqH/hMm xbRZFslWD3eL0V/OFWTgXk9z1AOLNleY3WSDDBLQ2T1L4GwvUMLx8YfxCDr/acN4 fAeAaJfdAfW3wF1CEPHT/g/NXoUYCSG/6H4IzpMuLt5Jt7Rr05XVU2azQ1PRPQzt UPysS4HSzzQ9ln/ausB+pFepMJ+rKg6aAuSiogdQghtaOD7AGHmNT0hnu77UgecZ IiNCXtJj3vB/Udzb0mSjXtPmfvptYkiQbBNKkni4e3hkU3dwULIP3PpyrBSyckXX 2YRVntPZ4ZX4OZ0mgZ7oqpxJnJJrG89GkSUAuzYKkOZLJ6nD9lSDINYMU8iAtQN6 xcWJurleU4QKY2W/yqS+tkCWSgcV/oLDF0BbeopBMthnEUtmvFNLgEJUPaBEtgK3 EM9GzfdxR4J+5AbZz/GYZOa5fPJkJeqEBv4poVzOdPkHcl4Y9m2Xke93AexEki7Q uotPYbuTP1U/VccKRR3uwmOL/JlKMFvIkARFrztimQNWeVjLbYbZuYPW75088n9i 9q/GrOVCK2vOixYTaNNiWC4HlSE1ZMXQy87BIEd0H0nkCQiU3TBr1bca/XAZ4d2i 5vWYKUdHZXuHBQYU4ZPHhEvai3ItpbUjaEW+yWMe3N0jlB4VgVk= =/Tq1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_2e94ecd982ca72ddc73707d445840647-- From nobody Tue Sep 26 15:26:36 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rw3W3448Lz4vHgZ for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@quinteiro.org) Received: from mx2.quinteiro.org (mx2.quinteiro.org [71.19.154.200]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rw3W307thz4SQL for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@quinteiro.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=quinteiro.org header.s=default header.b=acVdTvFy; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@quinteiro.org designates 71.19.154.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@quinteiro.org; dmarc=none Received: from www.quinteiro.org (www.quinteiro.org [204.109.56.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.quinteiro.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24EFC21D9A6 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@quinteiro.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=quinteiro.org; s=default; t=1695741998; bh=lbqQExS8pO6zKNSMM15U9a5mc76qJ3plT7x3woytRlE=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=acVdTvFyVFvkxFcBt+birD2guXjj5/OgfTVnTXk1KxNsm5YyPEjtnJfRjmAsYiWEd 1p9yvhegZanDFfqMf3FgYqKbmzjIyDtS8TwRF/yUrMJ1P7jPzO6Xc+6HWjyxtvaJ3Q utF2fqBdz83FE+jjzEbbQf8tapDdHHBHSnx1+bmI= Received: from [172.16.1.231] (157-131-78-27.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net [157.131.78.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by www.quinteiro.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0319D30AE5 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <0f15aeeb-54f0-e902-9eaa-0c22a17fbe97@quinteiro.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:26:36 -0700 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: ports@freebsd.org References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> From: Jose Quinteiro In-Reply-To: <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[quinteiro.org:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[quinteiro.org:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47066, ipnet:71.19.154.0/24, country:US]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[quinteiro.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rw3W307thz4SQL On 9/25/23 13:21, George Mitchell wrote: > On 9/25/23 11:38, Guido Falsi wrote: >> [...] >> There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world >> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and >> buildboxes, people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. >> Developers don't care to keep low overhead in their builds and with >> dependency. 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Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <646911f3-be02-c078-2833-f8af04299af3@quinteiro.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:44:00 -0700 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: ports@freebsd.org References: <202309260653.38Q6rISB011933@nuc.oldach.net> <6d9121e9-87ac-1a2a-3cb8-b9bccaab4e96@FreeBSD.org> From: Jose Quinteiro In-Reply-To: <6d9121e9-87ac-1a2a-3cb8-b9bccaab4e96@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[quinteiro.org:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[71.19.154.200:server fail,204.109.56.22:server fail,157.131.78.27:server fail]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[quinteiro.org:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47066, ipnet:71.19.154.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[quinteiro.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rw3v76Mw6z4WHy On 9/26/23 00:17, Guido Falsi wrote: > On 26/09/23 08:53, Helge Oldach wrote: >> Gareth de Vaux wrote on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:54 +0200 (CEST): >>> Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down >>> since >>> it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed >>> around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have >>> ever >>> remotely expected to need for a ports build. >>> >>> My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: >>> >>> # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE >>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM >>> >>> These are the top level dependencies: >>> >>> # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list >>> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg >>> /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx >>> /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf >>> /usr/ports/security/openssl >>> /usr/ports/converters/libiconv >>> /usr/ports/devel/libuv >>> /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 >>> /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 >>> /usr/ports/devel/json-c >>> /usr/ports/databases/lmdb >>> /usr/ports/devel/libedit >>> >>> Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect >>> MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. Which itself >>> would >>> be crazy that just a manpage would trigger this kind of intense build. >>> >> >> Indeed, it's py-sphinx, requiring py-openssl at some stage, which is in >> turn requiring py-cryptography which needs rust. >> >> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=pycryptography=legacy >> >> in make.conf fixed this BS for me. Beware of the dogs, you might get >> bitten by software that requires the new py-cryptography - I did stumble >> over py-certbot and py-awscli for example. > > py-cryptography was kept at an old version for a long time, for various > reasons, the new mandatory dependency on rust being the main one. > > But that old version does not work with OpenSSL 3, so the update of > OpenSSL in FreeBSD 14 imposed the update of py-cryptography. > And yet I remember a proposal that would have prevented this requirement on one of these lists. Separate base SSL from ports SSL. Force ports to use ports SSL and prune back base SSL to the bare minimum required for base. This would have given FreeBSD the freedom to try alternative things like LibreSSL. It was proposed when the "upgrade" to Openssl 3 delayed the release of 14. > This is the perfect example of why I say: > > - there are external pressures we have little power on (keeping an old > OpenSSL indefinitely is not an option) > - keeping old version of software (to avoid heavy dependencies or > whatever) is a landmine waiting to go off > > The problem showed up now because the landmine of keeping an old version > of py-cryptography in the tree finally went off. > > I'm sure there are more similar landmines waiting to explode under our > feet in the ports tree. > The problem with bending over backwards to accommodate a project that treats its users with contempt is that they'll overwhelm you eventually. I'm willing to bet the Python community is at least an order of magnitude larger than the FreeBSD community. The creeping Rustification of open source projects is marginalizing projects that are already marginal. The brunt of the damage caused by these capricious changes is borne by communities that are already small. Those communities have no chance to win if they fight back, but if they work to adapt to the changes the larger projects are imposing on them they only accelerate their demise and make hegemony more likely. The effort would be better spent in either exorcising the dependencies that are causing breakage, or fork the projects involved. Yes, these are work too, but there's a slim hope that if enough marginal communities do this, the large projects will feel back pressure and become more accommodating. Yes, it's a small chance. I know myself well enough in my advanced age to know I have a sometimes unhealthy instinct to swim against the current. Take the above with a grain of salt, but I suspect that if you're using FreeBSD we may share some of the same instinct. 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In the rest of the unix world >>> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and >>> buildboxes, people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. >>> Developers don't care to keep low overhead in their builds and with >>> dependency. The ports tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. >>> >>> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad >>> practice for a lot of reasons. >>> [...] >> And yet it mostly works for some of us.  I'd be overjoyed to sign up >> with the program (using packages only) if packages not using CUPS >> (that would run with unassisted lpr) were available, let's say as a >> flavor.  But until then ...                               -- George >> > The sudden appearance of a Rust requirement broke at least some CI systems: > https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/5771#issuecomment-774997087 > For the record, the comment you're referencing (and so the breakage) was happening two years ago. 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: Jose Quinteiro , ports@freebsd.org References: <202309260653.38Q6rISB011933@nuc.oldach.net> <6d9121e9-87ac-1a2a-3cb8-b9bccaab4e96@FreeBSD.org> <646911f3-be02-c078-2833-f8af04299af3@quinteiro.org> From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: <646911f3-be02-c078-2833-f8af04299af3@quinteiro.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26/09/23 17:44, Jose Quinteiro wrote: > On 9/26/23 00:17, Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 26/09/23 08:53, Helge Oldach wrote: >>> Gareth de Vaux wrote on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:06:54 +0200 (CEST): >>>> Hi all, I've just upgraded bind916 which brought half my system down >>>> since >>>> it suddenly required a mountain of python packages and rust which needed >>>> around 13GB (and hours) to build - space which I didn't have nor have >>>> ever >>>> remotely expected to need for a ports build. >>>> >>>> My bind configuration options are basically the defaults: >>>> >>>> # grep OPTIONS_FILE_SET /var/db/ports/dns_bind916/options >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=IDN >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=JSON >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=LMDB >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=MANPAGES >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=TCP_FASTOPEN >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=GSSAPI_NONE >>>> OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=DLZ_FILESYSTEM >>>> >>>> These are the top level dependencies: >>>> >>>> # make -C /usr/ports/dns/bind916 build-depends-list >>>> /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg >>>> /usr/ports/textproc/py-sphinx >>>> /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf >>>> /usr/ports/security/openssl >>>> /usr/ports/converters/libiconv >>>> /usr/ports/devel/libuv >>>> /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2 >>>> /usr/ports/dns/libidn2 >>>> /usr/ports/devel/json-c >>>> /usr/ports/databases/lmdb >>>> /usr/ports/devel/libedit >>>> >>>> Does anyone know which option/dependency is causing this? I suspect >>>> MANPAGES -> py-sphinx since it has 'py' but who knows. Which itself >>>> would >>>> be crazy that just a manpage would trigger this kind of intense build. >>>> >>> >>> Indeed, it's py-sphinx, requiring py-openssl at some stage, which is in >>> turn requiring py-cryptography which needs rust. >>> >>> DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=pycryptography=legacy >>> >>> in make.conf fixed this BS for me. Beware of the dogs, you might get >>> bitten by software that requires the new py-cryptography - I did stumble >>> over py-certbot and py-awscli for example. >> >> py-cryptography was kept at an old version for a long time, for various >> reasons, the new mandatory dependency on rust being the main one. >> >> But that old version does not work with OpenSSL 3, so the update of >> OpenSSL in FreeBSD 14 imposed the update of py-cryptography. >> > > And yet I remember a proposal that would have prevented this requirement > on one of these lists. Separate base SSL from ports SSL. Force ports to > use ports SSL and prune back base SSL to the bare minimum required for > base. This would have given FreeBSD the freedom to try alternative > things like LibreSSL. It was proposed when the "upgrade" to Openssl 3 > delayed the release of 14. > Great idea, we now only need to see the patches to base and ports allowing this to happen. Test them, commit them... 14.0 has already been delayed long enough. >> This is the perfect example of why I say: >> >> - there are external pressures we have little power on (keeping an old >> OpenSSL indefinitely is not an option) >> - keeping old version of software (to avoid heavy dependencies or >> whatever) is a landmine waiting to go off >> >> The problem showed up now because the landmine of keeping an old version >> of py-cryptography in the tree finally went off. >> >> I'm sure there are more similar landmines waiting to explode under our >> feet in the ports tree. >> > > The problem with bending over backwards to accommodate a project that > treats its users with contempt is that they'll overwhelm you eventually. > I'm willing to bet the Python community is at least an order of > magnitude larger than the FreeBSD community. Not sure what project you are talking about. Rust is just s programming language. I am neutral towards rust itself, although slightly annoyed by the time it takes to build it (on the other hand rust is not slow at building things, but most projects compiled in rust are big ones and would take long with any language compiler). That said what is the alternative? (shipping old software or custom versions stripped of rust when we do not have the manpower to actually maintain forks is not really an option) > > The creeping Rustification of open source projects is marginalizing > projects that are already marginal. The brunt of the damage caused by > these capricious changes is borne by communities that are already small. > Those communities have no chance to win if they fight back, but if they > work to adapt to the changes the larger projects are imposing on them > they only accelerate their demise and make hegemony more likely. > > The effort would be better spent in either exorcising the dependencies > that are causing breakage, or fork the projects involved. Yes, these are > work too, but there's a slim hope that if enough marginal communities do > this, the large projects will feel back pressure and become more > accommodating. Yes, it's a small chance. > > I know myself well enough in my advanced age to know I have a sometimes > unhealthy instinct to swim against the current. Take the above with a > grain of salt, but I suspect that if you're using FreeBSD we may share > some of the same instinct. > I used to have that kind of instinct when I was much younger. The instinct is partly there still, but I have learned to evaluate if I am fighting a current I can manage, or a stronger one that will swipe me away anyway. You say we "bend" to rustification, but the way you suggest means ports should bend to anti rustification, by removing features causing rust dependencies, pinning software to old versions, and so on. This would make the ports tree less useful for a lot of users. We would end up with old packages. Not something we can force on all the user base. On the other hand you suggest forking projects, but we barely have manpower to keep the ports updated as is. Let alone actually develop the ported software. Anyway forking can be done outside of the ports tree. Nothing stops you from forking, say, librsvg and keep your fork updated and at feature parity with the rust version. If this is your battle you can fight it outside of the ports tree. I'd add that the "ports" tree is just that "ports" not the place for forking or original development; we port what outside projects deliver with as little judgment as possible, for the users to use. A ports tree is not the proper ground for this battle. -- Guido Falsi From nobody Tue Sep 26 20:03:18 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rw9fT0gXjz4vbDs; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Received: from edna.lautre.net (edna.lautre.net [80.67.160.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "lautre.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rw9fS1RK2z3S9x; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thierry@pompo.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of thierry@pompo.net designates 80.67.160.88 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=thierry@pompo.net; dmarc=none Received: from graf.pompo.net (graf.pompo.net [82.66.0.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by edna.lautre.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8332010CF60; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:03:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by graf.pompo.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 050CB51EE1B; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:03:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:03:18 +0200 From: Thierry Thomas To: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" Cc: rust@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , rust@freebsd.org References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/4E4Q4lQ3s2GGek/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.2-STABLE amd64 Organization: Kabbale Eros X-Face: (hRbQnK~Pt7$ct`!fupO(`y_WL4^-Iwn4@ly-.,[4xC4xc;y=\ipKMNm<1J>lv@PP~7Z<.tKjAnXLs: X-PGP: 0xF1C516B3C8359753 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.46 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.36)[-0.357]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[thierry@freebsd.org,thierry@pompo.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org,ports@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20766, ipnet:80.67.160.0/19, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[thierry]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[thierry@freebsd.org,thierry@pompo.net]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rw9fS1RK2z3S9x --/4E4Q4lQ3s2GGek/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le mar. 26 sept. 23 =C3=A0 9:44:51 +0200, Guido Falsi =C3=A9crivait=C2=A0: > Actually it's much worse than that. It's not only rust per se. >=20 > My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one or > more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, qt[56]-webengin= e, > py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single threaded unluckily). Also it > often ends up having to rebuild firefox and thinderbird (these two heavily > use rust, and get little speed up from ccache), libreoffice (this one at > least get a very strong speed up thanks to ccache) etc. This is true, but rust is very heavy, and it seems to be updated quiet frequently. Just an idea: maybe it could be possible to repocopy lang/rust to e.g. lang/rust-devel (we already have rust-nightly), lang/rust being a stable release, used to compile the depending ports, and rust-devel being used by rust developers and updated more frequently. I do not know if these ports would be installed at the same place, with CONFLICTS_INSTALL, or if would be better to install the -devel port with some suffix=E2=80=A6 [rust@FreeBSD.org added to Cc:] --=20 Th. 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It's not only rust per se. >=20 > My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one or > more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, qt[56]-webengin= e, > py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single threaded unluckily). Also it > often ends up having to rebuild firefox and thinderbird (these two heavily > use rust, and get little speed up from ccache), libreoffice (this one at > least get a very strong speed up thanks to ccache) etc. This is true, but rust is very heavy, and it seems to be updated quiet frequently. Just an idea: maybe it could be possible to repocopy lang/rust to e.g. lang/rust-devel (we already have rust-nightly), lang/rust being a stable release, used to compile the depending ports, and rust-devel being used by rust developers and updated more frequently. I do not know if these ports would be installed at the same place, with CONFLICTS_INSTALL, or if would be better to install the -devel port with some suffix=E2=80=A6 [rust@FreeBSD.org added to Cc:] --=20 Th. 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It's not only rust per se. > >=20 > > My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one or > > more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, qt[56]-webeng= ine, > > py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single threaded unluckily). Also= it > > often ends up having to rebuild firefox and thinderbird (these two heav= ily > > use rust, and get little speed up from ccache), libreoffice (this one at > > least get a very strong speed up thanks to ccache) etc. >=20 > This is true, but rust is very heavy, and it seems to be updated quiet > frequently. >=20 > Just an idea: maybe it could be possible to repocopy lang/rust to e.g. > lang/rust-devel (we already have rust-nightly), lang/rust being a stable > release, used to compile the depending ports, and rust-devel being used > by rust developers and updated more frequently. >=20 > I do not know if these ports would be installed at the same place, with > CONFLICTS_INSTALL, or if would be better to install the -devel port > with some suffix? [rust@FreeBSD.org added to Cc:] > --=20 > Th. Thomas. There is lang/rust-nightly [1] [2], which may be the -devel version. IIRC, this is not so frequently updated. currently, the latest update was to 1.72.0.20230612 at Jun.20, 2023, while lang/rust 1.72.0 landed at Sep.08, 2023. The problem, I think, is that all BUILD_DEPEND'ed ports are basically bumped when lang/rust is updated. I'm not at all a rust developer nor porter, but if possible, files causing the rebuild (would be statically linked files like crt0.o in C) would be better splitted into individual port(s) and updated only when its source code is updated (and, if applicable, the behaviour of resulting binary is ACTUALLY changed WITH BACKWARD-INCOMPATIBLE WAY by rust code generator or optimizer) and all rust[-nightly] consumers LIB_DEPEND to them. [1] https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/lang/rust-nightly [2] https://www.freshports.org/lang/rust-nightly/ --=20 Tomoaki AOKI From nobody Tue Sep 26 21:42:18 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwCrd2Zyvz4vhW2 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from clamta19.bpe.bigpond.com (clamta19.bpe.bigpond.com [203.42.22.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwCrb6ccNz3fTL for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dave@horsfall.org designates 203.42.22.35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dave@horsfall.org; dmarc=none Received: from claprdcmr07 by claprdomr19 with esmtp (envelope-from ) id 1qlFox-0001kQ-1t for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:42:19 +1000 Received: from [110.141.193.233] (helo=aneurin.horsfall.org) by claprdcmr07 with esmtp (envelope-from ) id 1qlFox-0009Eg-1X for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:42:19 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 38QLgIWE038505 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:42:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 38QLgI21038502 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:42:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:42:18 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-tce-ares-id: e{0309ac57-5769-4607-a875-c6af1ec8a9f4}1 X-tce-spam-action: no action X-tce-spam-score: 0.0 X-Cm-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=NJoTuW2g c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=6513503b a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zNV7Rl7Rt7sA:10 a=IZfe6czEDwCiupBH8S4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-Cm-Envelope: MS4xfGP3VsNuEyWzqCHa3mpQWf5gd4fXStngLlHXnOYUwxlmVZLP1y/+SHzWdq3G39GQx5WqgOo4TnN0rHv+ePYmCY4/oVq9OMLGMIRfkqoIN+6K9vXPrSMi NROMqjO690wTHKANdAARIDU4uitb4arMxgxd3EUXJPEqaLPib7PqssnDiW6TcMJpHXSWFde/mWas0g== X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.36 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:203.42.22.0/25]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[203.42.22.35:from]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[horsfall.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwCrb6ccNz3fTL On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Roger Marquis wrote: > Or $5/mo for a Digitalocean VM. They host spammers, so I cannot use them (the Boulder Pledge etc); there are probably other VMs around, should I feel the need. On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Guido Falsi wrote: > > That's fine if you can afford a spare system just for building... > > Again, anyone can do things the way he prefer, but to do things properly > there are minimum requirements, if you can't get those, you will have to > accept compromises and the issues that come with those compromises. > > What you can't do is expect others to fix your own self imposed issues. That was an observation, not a complaint; are you always this narky? No wonder I'm starting to favour the Mac... -- Dave From nobody Tue Sep 26 22:41:11 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwF8d5MN3z4vlZl for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Received: from bit0.com (chunkhead.bit0.com [52.14.199.164]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.bit0.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwF8c01K1z4H8n for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandrews@bit0.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bit0.com header.s=boogity header.b=mCdQ4SJi; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mandrews@bit0.com designates 52.14.199.164 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mandrews@bit0.com; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=bit0.com Received: from chunkhead.bit0.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bit0.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DA03A1D8 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=bit0.com; s=boogity; t=1695768072; bh=EbcSKeUhQh3si11wKwTgmY497a9RAJfXmXXIf2DqU/o=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=mCdQ4SJiMcqAlKQAZ3pWBWnap6KJj7W9eUo/esZV7j+M0MCK6fGugLrB+NGsYXoTy ZDAJWj+TszDkZElIq6QnDKQDBO97trCHfRv3D4OQmfzy+nmZZnW8TM7jL2K+HPJw/c uxEoPbcY3nktEQ25hdfqq4duedukVzpcjGWO0fDA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bit0.com Received: from bit0.com ([127.0.0.1]) by chunkhead.bit0.com (chunkhead.bit0.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YbUkjuNfJ5pO for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bit0.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bit0.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [IPV6:2603:6010:3200:5c0f:a0eb:d636:abfa:eead] ([2603:6010:3200:5c0f:a0eb:d636:abfa:eead]) by bit0.com with ESMTPSA id NgN5BwheE2XYlAAAAwslWA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:41:12 -0400 Message-ID: <6b6476ee-eda6-2185-61c9-3a292b756a63@bit0.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:41:11 -0400 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly To: ports@freebsd.org References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <0r0nrsnr-2954-r260-04o4-2458205pn5n7@mx.roble.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Mike Andrews In-Reply-To: <0r0nrsnr-2954-r260-04o4-2458205pn5n7@mx.roble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[bit0.com,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bit0.com:s=boogity]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bit0.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.14.0.0/16, country:US]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwF8c01K1z4H8n On 9/25/23 9:24 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: > Or $5/mo for a Digitalocean VM. They dropped FreeBSD support last year.  (And simultaneously raised their prices.) 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Wed, 27 Sep 2023 00:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1b5ad463-0793-74b8-efbf-55f1a96257b9@quinteiro.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:28:30 -0700 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly To: ports@freebsd.org References: <202309260653.38Q6rISB011933@nuc.oldach.net> <6d9121e9-87ac-1a2a-3cb8-b9bccaab4e96@FreeBSD.org> <646911f3-be02-c078-2833-f8af04299af3@quinteiro.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Jose Quinteiro In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[quinteiro.org:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[quinteiro.org:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47066, ipnet:71.19.154.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[quinteiro.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwHXN0NXgz4Q8c On 9/26/23 09:14, Guido Falsi wrote: (snip) >> >> And yet I remember a proposal that would have prevented this requirement >> on one of these lists. Separate base SSL from ports SSL. Force ports to >> use ports SSL and prune back base SSL to the bare minimum required for >> base. This would have given FreeBSD the freedom to try alternative >> things like LibreSSL. It was proposed when the "upgrade" to Openssl 3 >> delayed the release of 14. > > Great idea, we now only need to see the patches to base and ports > allowing this to happen. Test them, commit them... > This was not my idea, it was presented by a member of the Core Team.(1) > 14.0 has already been delayed long enough. > I do not question the decision to "upgrade" OpenSSL instead. I have put in neither the time nor the effort to have an educated opinion on this. >> >>> This is the perfect example of why I say: >>> >>> - there are external pressures we have little power on (keeping an old >>> OpenSSL indefinitely is not an option) >>> - keeping old version of software (to avoid heavy dependencies or >>> whatever) is a landmine waiting to go off >>> >>> The problem showed up now because the landmine of keeping an old version >>> of py-cryptography in the tree finally went off. >>> >>> I'm sure there are more similar landmines waiting to explode under our >>> feet in the ports tree. >>> >> >> The problem with bending over backwards to accommodate a project that >> treats its users with contempt is that they'll overwhelm you eventually. >> I'm willing to bet the Python community is at least an order of >> magnitude larger than the FreeBSD community. >> > > Not sure what project you are talking about. Rust is just s programming > language. > I beg to differ. It's a large runtime that changes quickly, a package manager and build tool that create enormous binaries from even tiny pieces of code, and the answer to all your problems, according to some. In any case, I was talking about py-cryptography in particular, and Python in general. > I am neutral towards rust itself, although slightly annoyed by the time > it takes to build it (on the other hand rust is not slow at building > things, but most projects compiled in rust are big ones and would take > long with any language compiler). > I was neutral until it started consuming more and more time and resources on my Poudriere builds, and until I tried to write a simple program to query a Mysql database. I'm also wary of the fact that it appears to have tied us to the FreeBSD 11 ABI forever(2). > That said what is the alternative? > Why do I need an alternative? >> The creeping Rustification of open source projects is marginalizing >> projects that are already marginal. The brunt of the damage caused by >> these capricious changes is borne by communities that are already small. >> Those communities have no chance to win if they fight back, but if they >> work to adapt to the changes the larger projects are imposing on them >> they only accelerate their demise and make hegemony more likely. >> >> The effort would be better spent in either exorcising the dependencies >> that are causing breakage, or fork the projects involved. Yes, these are >> work too, but there's a slim hope that if enough marginal communities do >> this, the large projects will feel back pressure and become more >> accommodating. Yes, it's a  small chance. >> >> I know myself well enough in my advanced age to know I have a sometimes >> unhealthy instinct to swim against the current. Take the above with a >> grain of salt, but I suspect that if you're using FreeBSD we may share >> some of the same instinct. > > I used to have that kind of instinct when I was much younger. The > instinct is partly there still, but I have learned to evaluate if I am > fighting a current I can manage, or a stronger one that will swipe me > away anyway. > > You say we "bend" to rustification, but the way you suggest means ports > should bend to anti rustification, by removing features causing rust > dependencies, pinning software to old versions, and so on. This would > make the ports tree less useful for a lot of users. We would end up with > old packages. Not something we can force on all the user base. > > On the other hand you suggest forking projects, but we barely have > manpower to keep the ports updated as is. Let alone actually develop the > ported software. > > Anyway forking can be done outside of the ports tree. Nothing stops you > from forking, say, librsvg and keep your fork updated and at feature > parity with the rust version. > > If this is your battle you can fight it outside of the ports tree. > I never suggested doing this in the ports tree? The only change I mentioned was to base, and that was not my idea as I pointed out above. > > I'd add that the "ports" tree is just that "ports" not the place for > forking or original development; we port what outside projects deliver > with as little judgment as possible, for the users to use. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 27/09/23 02:28, Jose Quinteiro wrote: > On 9/26/23 09:14, Guido Falsi wrote: > (snip) >>> >>> And yet I remember a proposal that would have prevented this requirement >>> on one of these lists. Separate base SSL from ports SSL. Force ports to >>> use ports SSL and prune back base SSL to the bare minimum required for >>> base. This would have given FreeBSD the freedom to try alternative >>> things like LibreSSL. It was proposed when the "upgrade" to Openssl 3 >>> delayed the release of 14. >> >> Great idea, we now only need to see the patches to base and ports >> allowing this to happen. Test them, commit them... >> > This was not my idea, it was presented by a member of the Core Team.(1) I was simply stating that ideas and practice are two different things. For the idea of moving ports to ports only OpenSSL there were some big problems regarding ports crossing the boundary between base and ports (can't link to two different SSL implementations at the same time) and the need of a lot of testing and work. There simply was not enough time in the 14.0 rleease timeframe. It can still be done though, nothing is lost. >>> >>>> This is the perfect example of why I say: >>>> >>>> - there are external pressures we have little power on (keeping an old >>>> OpenSSL indefinitely is not an option) >>>> - keeping old version of software (to avoid heavy dependencies or >>>> whatever) is a landmine waiting to go off >>>> >>>> The problem showed up now because the landmine of keeping an old version >>>> of py-cryptography in the tree finally went off. >>>> >>>> I'm sure there are more similar landmines waiting to explode under our >>>> feet in the ports tree. >>>> >>> >>> The problem with bending over backwards to accommodate a project that >>> treats its users with contempt is that they'll overwhelm you eventually. >>> I'm willing to bet the Python community is at least an order of >>> magnitude larger than the FreeBSD community. >>> >> >> Not sure what project you are talking about. Rust is just s programming >> language. >> > I beg to differ. It's a large runtime that changes quickly, a package > manager and build tool that create enormous binaries from even tiny > pieces of code, and the answer to all your problems, according to some. > > In any case, I was talking about py-cryptography in particular, and > Python in general. > >> I am neutral towards rust itself, although slightly annoyed by the time >> it takes to build it (on the other hand rust is not slow at building >> things, but most projects compiled in rust are big ones and would take >> long with any language compiler). >> > I was neutral until it started consuming more and more time and > resources on my Poudriere builds, and until I tried to write a simple > program to query a Mysql database. I'm also wary of the fact that it > appears to have tied us to the FreeBSD 11 ABI forever(2). This can change, anyway. Also, the thread you linked shows the proposal was formally accepted, let's see how things evolve. > >> That said what is the alternative? >> > Why do I need an alternative? Yes you do in the sense that one need to do one thing or some other thing between two or more options. Regarding "rustification" the options are, we upgrade ports of software being moved to rust or gaining rust dependency (which is what we are doing and I think is the correct thing for a ports collection that has no role being judgemental about the ported software). Or we do something else. For example we abstain from upgrading software that moves to rust or gaining rust dependencies (keeping the last non "rustified" version). [1] Or we do something else that I have not thought about. (I'm not trying to trap the discussion in a false dicotomy, but I see no other possible courses of action) In other words, what are the options we have? [1] I also think this is wrong for the ports tree because it's giving value judgements about ported software which is not the ports tree role and would be a bad service to all users except the ones which strictly agree with such value judgement > >>> The creeping Rustification of open source projects is marginalizing >>> projects that are already marginal. The brunt of the damage caused by >>> these capricious changes is borne by communities that are already small. >>> Those communities have no chance to win if they fight back, but if they >>> work to adapt to the changes the larger projects are imposing on them >>> they only accelerate their demise and make hegemony more likely. >>> >>> The effort would be better spent in either exorcising the dependencies >>> that are causing breakage, or fork the projects involved. Yes, these are >>> work too, but there's a slim hope that if enough marginal communities do >>> this, the large projects will feel back pressure and become more >>> accommodating. Yes, it's a  small chance. >>> >>> I know myself well enough in my advanced age to know I have a sometimes >>> unhealthy instinct to swim against the current. Take the above with a >>> grain of salt, but I suspect that if you're using FreeBSD we may share >>> some of the same instinct. >> >> I used to have that kind of instinct when I was much younger. The >> instinct is partly there still, but I have learned to evaluate if I am >> fighting a current I can manage, or a stronger one that will swipe me >> away anyway. >> >> You say we "bend" to rustification, but the way you suggest means ports >> should bend to anti rustification, by removing features causing rust >> dependencies, pinning software to old versions, and so on. This would >> make the ports tree less useful for a lot of users. We would end up with >> old packages. Not something we can force on all the user base. >> >> On the other hand you suggest forking projects, but we barely have >> manpower to keep the ports updated as is. Let alone actually develop the >> ported software. >> >> Anyway forking can be done outside of the ports tree. Nothing stops you >> from forking, say, librsvg and keep your fork updated and at feature >> parity with the rust version. >> >> If this is your battle you can fight it outside of the ports tree. >> > I never suggested doing this in the ports tree? The only change I > mentioned was to base, and that was not my idea as I pointed out above. > Actually the change you mentioned is to both base and ports, I stil lthink it would be a good idea, but requires time and a lot of work/testing. Also that proposal can be applied and has no real relation to rust. It is a good proposal in itself. It would only marginally address the rust issue. BTW (I have not thoroughly checked or tested this) we do have a DEFAULT_VERSIONS= pycryptography=legacy flag, and latest head (and 14.0 I guess) should have compatibility shims to make it work. 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There is also a way to mix packages made elsewhere :) # First, bring the package from somewhere else. # package name should be estimated with the right command :) -> make -C /usr/ports/lang/rust -V PKGNAME -V PKGFILE fetch https: //pkg.freebsd.org /FreeBSD:12:amd64/latest/All/ rust-1.72.0.pkg # Move package to package directory of poudriere. # chmod, chown properly as well. mv rust-1.72.0.pkg /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages/jailname-default/All/ # Recreate pkg repository. # by striking out rebuilding of pkg, which is always present :) poudriere bulk -j jailname -p default ports-mgmt/pkg # Check to see if the package has been successfully inserted. poudriere bulk -j jailname -p default -n lang/rust # If there is a reason why it was targeted for deletion, resolve the reason. # e.g. Deleting rust-1.72.0.pkg: missing dependency: curl-8.. poudriere bulk -j jailname -p default ftp/curl As I recall, I was once able to successfully fake such a procedure :) Regards. 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Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_7c04ebd466742dcaa737c938016e2f7c"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:2a00:1828::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwYR64bgdz3bKP This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_7c04ebd466742dcaa737c938016e2f7c Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-09-27 10:56, schrieb Charlie Li: > In poudriere, apart from the fetch phase, network access is not allowed > by default so spawning a server that listens on an IP that does not > necessarily exist that clients, individual compiler invocations, talk > to isn't tenable. At the very least, one would need to architect and > implement Unix domain socket support there, which they are happy to > consider. How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? I tried the port in the mean time, and the sccache cache directory contains 573 files after a test run with poudriere-devel. 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Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <99e008c3-4047-4fb6-92df-d0a16a637efb@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:57:17 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: sccache(-overlay) to speed up rust builds in poudriere To: Alexander Leidinger , Charlie Li Cc: Kurt Jaeger , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , pizzamig@freebsd.org, rust@freebsd.org References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> <3fc3bf626fa452be730bcc96d2c10508@Leidinger.net> <3997509d72dcdbd9075274bee41cf255@Leidinger.net> Content-Language: en-US From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: <3997509d72dcdbd9075274bee41cf255@Leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 27/09/23 12:54, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Am 2023-09-27 10:56, schrieb Charlie Li: > >> In poudriere, apart from the fetch phase, network access is not >> allowed by default so spawning a server that listens on an IP that >> does not necessarily exist that clients, individual compiler >> invocations, talk to isn't tenable. At the very least, one would need >> to architect and implement Unix domain socket support there, which >> they are happy to consider. > > How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? two (undocumented) guesses: - removing interfaces (including lo0) - no routing The only way to know for sure is reading the source code. -- Guido Falsi From nobody Wed Sep 27 10:57:27 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwYVS71Qhz4vJCt for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (bastille.leidinger.net [89.238.82.207]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwYVS4y9lz3cZv; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1695812266; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4HpLFTLzIHU81OwiAogave+aEfEsji1TA1AF9+w9Hdc=; b=DnRDeACIM0B3RuXQVJHKvp6xphvElsK/kdJrRPxtuo6cE5AUV/NA+tpevSVA0JSKHH/TXJ bwLDSj8KJiRwYcUzdxjqjsMUvLywX4qT6V6bY/414lfnv31eMoQYd18gFhgjl386bmZAvD fwAQGGW3f7ZHv6SS4oBoGvrglpoRQAh53WLI33u2M9vgd5t/JE08ABIE/NMX7x/Ev8aa7h hzIgzySgqEwQ/6kaJf3+6lPNJ9ssx2eRu5ODyN3vcb1vb54iUlQ5oou/zV2HVsaf8qDX9r JO/eRTZnugqaVYGqeZnkz/HwW+2XntcWrU9nE+8gf34wkM1eiWkA62i4S0Gj0A== Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 12:57:27 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Charlie Li Cc: Kurt Jaeger , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , pizzamig@freebsd.org, rust@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sccache(-overlay) to speed up rust builds in poudriere In-Reply-To: References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> <3fc3bf626fa452be730bcc96d2c10508@Leidinger.net> Message-ID: <61e77ceeefcca1ba1fe28b73fd5802b5@Leidinger.net> X-Sender: Alexander@Leidinger.net Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_9948919bcbf0cc0c9601131c535ed95a"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwYVS4y9lz3cZv This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_9948919bcbf0cc0c9601131c535ed95a Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-09-27 10:56, schrieb Charlie Li: > ports-mgmt/sccache-overlay's functionality that allows it to work in a > poudriere/port build environment relies on code that was never > submitted upstream to sccache. More than the mk file and the install into a different location suitable for the overlay infrastructure? Depending on how it is done, it may be feasible to host the additional stuff locally, e.g. in the devel/sccache port and use a feature flag or a slave port to enable it. Bye, Alexander. -- http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander@Leidinger.net: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild@FreeBSD.org : PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF --=_9948919bcbf0cc0c9601131c535ed95a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc; size=833 Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEER9UlYXp1PSd08nWXEg2wmwP42IYFAmUUCqgACgkQEg2wmwP4 2IZQHRAAj1UEII61ZynSc7dRmiYHlzqe6G7MxVbqNC0ohfURv+erTm5q7PLDCadX ayRyk+4ugeA1Uy1g8HNSjgkTVM/w8kZIyMQmx3OWu2bVQvMAprsOueey/2M6E9uK 8caa6NeYFrEJy6i1GRK7qmKDo9N2Pjo/RfuGVpuVR4OYTO+T4vxFBCtkwu63ikjU HgVWm/5Gmw5WegpCvFcMstJ1du54CiN50N5X0XOiRPxu3jdox6g0K2Eht2u67EqG 2UhyJnORjNYJkkVEDOV/wysukHb8K2Ff6colCdu7N1D5nb/Gu5CzpVSWb4Q91654 SRo8mDs31DhhwbyrsUqpQtVGq4ydTaK1bMAe5XAalNRxvev2v2QEyt5l2jGPUBRS hRHf/OETeXxXFBQrqgqeMojjaplW8u43nrz1X9PnaO8X1d2AElPiBUL2KNPsCAZd r6VAr0HKCHO2aRfdTCDTcL7aspIG/bhnkdo9G4RC8SRmRvr9hvWVDzBKFI4lxXa+ EycHmRVqnft3rR1igG+1yueadSutEexVZuKkftOb6gpnEdK83ODxy05oDaI5dWu+ eCIkphQpetKpmA0XXIiltUyIGtTf471Zm0CUCxf4Lc3BzOVSfDrZEk+HPQsS7otO jOCGG6KwmET7V1Q72BeQ/51ys5aWlz91ykOjoYvJpzJO44vJWvw= =mqUM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_9948919bcbf0cc0c9601131c535ed95a-- From nobody Wed Sep 27 11:00:04 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwYY21Nxtz4vJ6D for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Received: from fc.opsec.eu (fc.opsec.eu [IPv6:2001:14f8:200:4::4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwYY20g9Bz3dBh for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pi@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from pi by fc.opsec.eu with local (Exim 4.96 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1qlSGy-0004S8-1p; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:00:04 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:00:04 +0200 From: Kurt Jaeger To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sccache(-overlay) to speed up rust builds in poudriere Message-ID: References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> <3fc3bf626fa452be730bcc96d2c10508@Leidinger.net> <3997509d72dcdbd9075274bee41cf255@Leidinger.net> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3997509d72dcdbd9075274bee41cf255@Leidinger.net> X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12502, ipnet:2001:14f8::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwYY20g9Bz3dBh Hi! > How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? I think by starting the builder jail without IP. -- pi@FreeBSD.org +49 171 3101372 Now what ? 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At the very least, one would need >>> to architect and implement Unix domain socket support there, which >>> they are happy to consider. >> >> How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? > > two (undocumented) guesses: > > - removing interfaces (including lo0) > - no routing > > The only way to know for sure is reading the source code. > https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/97404baad0c41f1007f971c4a19c89b7c594d89f/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L691C59-L692C32 This looks like the relevant line of code, one has obviously to check all the involved variables definitions. This is a good starting point for this kind of research though. -- Guido Falsi From nobody Wed Sep 27 11:00:31 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwYZZ5Qkgz4vJHS for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (bastille.leidinger.net [89.238.82.207]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwYZZ3cY8z3f9t; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1695812480; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=kIfYEpp7djZGLc1RKXNykVaBlA8mCgLJphsLv9tAaSQ=; b=pKIUVj+ThTpVpoc/Sh2hNVhjRxzCYOoxaTB+0aAdB23uWKxqmKEJLmsHQz/SpYGxijmfQ7 Sbvi4JQojnYkg7CYOwwe5BhWrGjRG8iMXinmo1nRBFRCT2YF48egtoMka5/SOfeHWzkzpt cDLaiBrhzNZ+p5toW6zlSDrMyv2kYwzTtN4GyKL1LU9kgW50Tw83SiYgUTX6dJdKXHzmDg aI9RT71fRMKiH3vWkFAn59J+dZWqVNSijAj19kbPDE/E/GL/aIevkwD0QRtsKF8JPAqsjB Ktrlu691rFsc0GgUdh+hPw9R7oMICjb4NwRtOU5109yKKeAGkQJUtb4sl0EBqA== Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 13:00:31 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Guido Falsi Cc: Charlie Li , Kurt Jaeger , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , pizzamig@freebsd.org, rust@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sccache(-overlay) to speed up rust builds in poudriere In-Reply-To: <99e008c3-4047-4fb6-92df-d0a16a637efb@FreeBSD.org> References: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> <3fc3bf626fa452be730bcc96d2c10508@Leidinger.net> <3997509d72dcdbd9075274bee41cf255@Leidinger.net> <99e008c3-4047-4fb6-92df-d0a16a637efb@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <671c7d2e704afc4a29cb45461311fcc3@Leidinger.net> X-Sender: Alexander@Leidinger.net Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_f6c4c9b7723e13241de864b5b8a67507"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwYZZ3cY8z3f9t This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_f6c4c9b7723e13241de864b5b8a67507 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-09-27 12:57, schrieb Guido Falsi: > On 27/09/23 12:54, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Am 2023-09-27 10:56, schrieb Charlie Li: >> >>> In poudriere, apart from the fetch phase, network access is not >>> allowed by default so spawning a server that listens on an IP that >>> does not necessarily exist that clients, individual compiler >>> invocations, talk to isn't tenable. At the very least, one would need >>> to architect and implement Unix domain socket support there, which >>> they are happy to consider. >> >> How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? > > two (undocumented) guesses: > > - removing interfaces (including lo0) Then the sccache cache directory shouldn't contain files in my test. > - no routing Then the localhost connection still works and sccache should work (which would match my empirical test results). 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format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 27/09/23 13:00, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Am 2023-09-27 12:57, schrieb Guido Falsi: >> On 27/09/23 12:54, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>> Am 2023-09-27 10:56, schrieb Charlie Li: >>> >>>> In poudriere, apart from the fetch phase, network access is not >>>> allowed by default so spawning a server that listens on an IP that >>>> does not necessarily exist that clients, individual compiler >>>> invocations, talk to isn't tenable. At the very least, one would >>>> need to architect and implement Unix domain socket support there, >>>> which they are happy to consider. >>> >>> How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? >> >> two (undocumented) guesses: >> >> - removing interfaces (including lo0) > > Then the sccache cache directory shouldn't contain files in my test. > >> - no routing > > Then the localhost connection still works and sccache should work (which > would match my empirical test results). > I'm not completely sure we;re talking about the same thing. The scccache version you're using is an older version with non standard changes (as vishin pointed out, did not check it or the nature of the changes or differences with newer versions). Maybe that version is not network driven thanks to patches, you should check that before assuming that the sccache-overlay version requires networking. -- Guido Falsi From nobody Wed Sep 27 11:11:11 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwYpC0qlxz4vJkr for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vishwin@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwYpC0MSpz4FMr; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vishwin@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; 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Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_0202e1093b9a05451211eb10a3d285be"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:2a00:1828::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwYt90Jncz4GSk This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_0202e1093b9a05451211eb10a3d285be Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2023-09-27 13:04, schrieb Guido Falsi: > I'm not completely sure we;re talking about the same thing. The > scccache version you're using is an older version with non standard > changes (as vishin pointed out, did not check it or the nature of the > changes or differences with newer versions). Maybe that version is not > network driven thanks to patches, you should check that before assuming > that the sccache-overlay version requires networking. True, I shouldn't assume it behaves as documented right now. But the operlay has code to start and stop the server... I agree that it may be interesting to know what the difference is on a code-level. I do not have the spare cycles right now to find the corresponding original code and compare it against the -overlay version (and to try to understand a programming language I have no clue about). 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REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47066, ipnet:71.19.154.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Rwdwy6ldlz3Blt On 9/27/23 01:42, Charlie Li wrote: > Jose Quinteiro wrote: >> The sudden appearance of a Rust requirement broke at least some CI >> systems: >> https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/5771#issuecomment-774997087 >> > And that's not py-cryptography's or anyone else's problem except for > those CI systems. > > cryptography switched from C to Rust for the non-SSL/TLS bits like > X.509. There were good technical reasons for the change from their point > of view despite all the ensuing backlash. > Sure, blame the victim. Thanks, Jose From nobody Wed Sep 27 21:31:43 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RwqZ02gg1z4v1qt for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 21:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RwqYz20L6z4SH1 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 21:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of david@catwhisker.org designates 107.204.234.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=david@catwhisker.org; dmarc=none Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 38RLVhvl092478; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 21:31:43 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 38RLVhtH092477; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:31:43 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Build failure: using poudriere-devel to build www/chromium Message-ID: Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2Cxs5U7RRiJKeZLk" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.36 / 15.00]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.956]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RwqYz20L6z4SH1 --2Cxs5U7RRiJKeZLk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was while the build host was running stable/12 (stable/12-n236282-b083794291d2). A subsequent attempt whlie it was running stable/13 (stable/13-n256426-d03af6473e64) was OK. Log is in https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/ports/chromium/; there's a compressed copy and an uncompressed one. I also stuck a "uname" file in there to show the uname string. Anyway: the acual whine appears to be: =2E.. c++ -MMD -MF obj/net/dns/dns/address_info.o.d -DUSE_AURA=3D1 -DUSE_GLIB=3D1= -DUSE_OZONE=3D1 -DOFFICIAL_BUILD -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_= MACROS -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=3D64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -= D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -DNO_UNWIND_TABLES -D_GNU_SOURCE -DNDEBUG -DNVALGRIND = -DDYNAMIC_ANNOTATIONS_ENABLED=3D0 -DGLIB_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=3DGLIB_VERSION= _2_56 -DGLIB_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=3DGLIB_VERSION_2_56 -DBASE_USE_PERFETTO_C= LIENT_LIBRARY=3D1 -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_NO_RTTI -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_NO_STATIC_INI= TIALIZER -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_INTERNAL_DONATE_STEAL_INLINE=3D0 -DHAVE_PTHREAD = -DUSE_SYSTEM_LIBEVENT=3D1 -DNET_IMPLEMENTATION -DENABLE_BUILT_IN_DNS -DUSE_= GIO -DUSING_SYSTEM_ICU=3D1 -DICU_UTIL_DATA_IMPL=3DICU_UTIL_DATA_STATIC-DU_F= INAL=3Dfinal -DU_NOEXCEPT=3Dnoexcept -DU_OVERRIDE=3Doverride -DU_IMPORT=3DU= _EXPORT -I../.. -Igen -I../../third_party/perfetto/include -Igen/third_part= y/perfetto/build_config -Igen/third_party/perfetto -Igen/shim_headers/libev= ent_shim -Igen/shim_headers/icui18n_shim -Igen/shim_headers/icuuc_shim -I..= /../net/third_party/quiche/overrides -I../../net/third_party/quiche/src/qui= che/common/platform/default -I../../net/third_party/quiche/src -I../../thir= d_party/protobuf/src -Igen/protoc_out -I../../third_party/abseil-cpp -I../.= =2E/third_party/boringssl/src/include -Igen/net/third_party/quiche/src -I..= /../third_party/zlib -I../../third_party/ced/src -I../../third_party/brotli= /include -Wall -Wextra -Wimplicit-fallthrough -Wextra-semi -Wunreachable-co= de-aggressive -Wthread-safety -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused-p= arameter -Wno-psabi -Wloop-analysis -Wno-unneeded-internal-declaration -Wen= um-compare-conditional -Wno-ignored-pragma-optimize -Wshadow -fno-delete-nu= ll-pointer-checks -fno-ident -fno-strict-aliasing --param=3Dssp-buffer-size= =3D4 -fstack-protector -fno-unwind-tables -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -= fPIC -pthread -fcolor-diagnostics -fmerge-all-constants -m64 -msse3 -Xclang= -fdebug-compilation-dir -Xclang . -no-canonical-prefixes -ftrivial-auto-va= r-init=3Dpattern -O2 -fdata-sections -ffunction-sections -fno-unique-sectio= n-names -fno-omit-frame-pointer -g0 -fprofile-use=3D../../chrome/build/pgo_= profiles/chrome-linux-5938-1694193273-92041abba5ed60196170382dbce223833adce= 5c9.profdata -Wno-profile-instr-unprofiled -Wno-profile-instr-out-of-date -= Wno-backend-plugin -fvisibility=3Dhidden -Wheader-hygiene -Wstring-conversi= on -Wtautological-overlap-compare -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include= /glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -DPROTOBUF_ALLOW_DEPRECATED=3D1= -Wexit-time-destructors -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0= -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/includ= e -std=3Dc++20 -Wno-trigraphs -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fvisibility-inline= s-hidden -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -isystem /usr/local/include -fn= o-strict-aliasing -isystem /usr/local/include -c ../../net/dns/address_in= fo.cc -o obj/net/dns/dns/address_info.o =2E./../net/dns/address_info.cc:81:47: error: use of undeclared identifier = 'EAI_NODATA' if (os_error !=3D EAI_NONAME && os_error !=3D EAI_NODATA) ^ 1 error generated. =2E... Is this ... fixable, somehow? Sorry; I'm recently back home after some weeks of being away from my normal regular updates & FreeBSD, so there may be a few things I haven't yet caught up on. Thanks! Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org "I don=E2=80=99t want people to know we lost, Mark. This is embarrassing." - Donald J. 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The following fix need to be made. https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2023-September/004440.html Regards. 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Charlie Li wrote on 2023/09/27 20:11: > Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 27/09/23 12:57, Guido Falsi wrote: >>> On 27/09/23 12:54, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>>> Am 2023-09-27 10:56, schrieb Charlie Li: >>>> >>>>> In poudriere, apart from the fetch phase, network access is not allowed by default so spawning a server that listens on an IP that does not necessarily exist that clients, individual compiler invocations, talk to isn't tenable. At the very least, one would need to architect and implement Unix domain socket support there, which they are happy to consider. >>>> >>>> How is poudriere preventing network access outside the fetch phase? >>> >> https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/97404baad0c41f1007f971c4a19c89b7c594d89f/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L691C59-L692C32 >> >> >> This looks like the relevant line of code, one has obviously to check all the involved variables definitions. This is a good starting point for this kind of research though. >> > Yes, RESTRICT_NETWORKING=yes by default and is the relevant setting here. > It is done by launching and using two jails (jail-porttree-job-01, jail-porttree-job-01-n), right? However, sometimes escape is attempted :) It happens when it looks like ppp nat is enabled. And it seems to be caused by the port using libxslt during the build. 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I am replying here again because there are so many statements present that I don't know where to hang. My poudriere is collecting the time costs required to build the package by means of an experiment. Well, although it's simply the number of seconds it took to build :) Sorting through it... "graphics/blender": 3906, "devel/py-qt5-pyqt@py38": 4542, "devel/py-qt5-pyqt@py311": 4653, "devel/py-qt5-pyqt@py310": 5253, "www/webkit2-gtk4": 5552, "www/qt5-webkit": 5682, "lang/ghc": 8223, "www/webkit2-gtk3": 8638, "www/firefox-esr": 8722, "www/firefox": 10173, "devel/llvm15": 11051, "lang/rust": 11079, "devel/llvm16": 13258, "devel/llvm13": 13557, "lang/gcc12": 24829, It goes like this. The official poudriere also means that if firefox, blender, chromium, chromium, chromium or chromium is not built, it will turn in a much shorter cycle. How about an official pkg repository for quick builds limited to just llvm, gcc, and rust, which are the key parts of the build? Regards. 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Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:21:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_408FCF5D-5C10-4336-A25C-938C31A86C4D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Reply-To: Dan Langille List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) Subject: FreshPorts UTF-8 problem Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:20:33 -0400 To: FreeBSD Ports X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.44 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(-0.40)[66.111.4.27:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.34)[-0.335]; 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If you are committing, or notice a commit, to a port which contains = UTF-8 in the COMMENT or pkg-descr, please compare the port page at both = https://dev.freshports.org and https://www.freshports.org - dev should = properly display the UTF-8 and www should be wrong. 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charset=us-ascii List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.100.2.1.4\)) Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly From: Dan Mahoney In-Reply-To: <8834n7o7-pns7-5r31-oo33-rr52q2n01s64@mx.roble.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 17:58:11 -0700 Cc: Mark Millard , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6096FAFA-A5C7-4F0F-80A4-74C7A82AD6CF@gushi.org> References: <8834n7o7-pns7-5r31-oo33-rr52q2n01s64@mx.roble.com> To: Roger Marquis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.100.2.1.4) X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[gushi.org:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.897]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gushi.org,none]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gushi.org:s=prime2014]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[2620:137:6000:10::142:from]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:393507, ipnet:2620:137:6000::/44, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gushi.org:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Ry83Y1sPHz4D40 > On Sep 25, 2023, at 18:23, Roger Marquis wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Mark Millard wrote: >> ... it takes so long to build (and distribute) the 30,000+ >> packages (or any large incremental subset or subset that >> involves huge builds) that a fair number ports have had >> updates before the distribution completes and starts being >=20 > Even just getting the ports tree updated can take days (or more) even > after vulnerabilities are patched. Let's assume for most systems, you're dealing with a quarterly ports = tree, and thus a quarterly pkg tree. If you're using a -current ports = tree, all bets are off, but portsnap (in base) should qualify you for = this. > Take bind9 for example. We use Poudriere for most updates but not = bind9 > as it often should be patched as soon as updates are are available. = If > you wait for gitup or Poudriere to pull a new Makefile, even with > nothing more than a new version string, it can take days (2 or 3 days > for the most recent patch). It's not an issue here as we a) edit the > Makefile to specify the current version, b) make makesum, c) make sure > the build does not use python (by manually editing the port's options > file, d) make package and e) pkg install (or update), which takes > maybe 10 minutes. This was my precise reason for setting up poudriere to keep building a = constant set of quarterly builds -- even if we don't use them at all. = By default, we stick with the base packages, but we want to be able to = mode-switch over, in the event we have a critical patch we need to = apply. -Dan > It sounds like what we really need om this case is just a way to > maintain options keys and values that are not specified in the = Makefile. > Of course that won't work for all bloated packages but it would help. >=20 > Roger Marquis From nobody Sat Sep 30 04:02:57 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RyD8K6wW8z4vVQ2 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RyD8K571mz4gWf for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1696046577; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=iXLtnNwbiRfEQgOu2YcypyDL6k4ZJZ3h1n4vPDpgu//0Sv+hZDbHPi+UdrE9AuAYE4SxnN 7gkLccByD8YcrGsMUK42twhgFMsTJl+VY4fwtPGKNdj2vbANd3IgdC9B3b9+P47kZxAqoZ x3AUVC6YAivGwhsepOMDeP4HGC4NIja4xoPRF8+kke5agaNfr9idfLyP1PpL/JzWSfaOME vJYn465BwmtOyyanKg8oNBDhNK6Mrg7xhCjh8Q++hSC4or8O8K+v0jjk7fGCWcYENN41+K p4OHwlX9IuXjB24NSuLjPgukH0ehY767tOhdn4Rlzl3iv/K9VN6jWrSzqExGuw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1696046577; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5f+H2WcGECrOmsvr/O3sfVpCRdzNNk4v0Cd23QrPwMc=; b=Hz/tCaJPHfZyzkDpDvO+bz0dzMTCzZQf1KM3Jp/TvnxvMktRPNZS/FAM+XLvGSopHwD3Gw 2+0HAlnNYtguQJerG0plXu5X07hCovJf15l9L3SNaWrMFS+K62kj0Fqtk+PiRJB7+VOPXe Aqw1lo20LlRA8CIhP6w3utidTEa7q8CbtIvhK7bYm+46kUxijwGnrW0k51l1+qQ5GgKFTT 8hPHQ0mn6G5+S/aH57H/01WQoD5uzjZz5tsj6SBbd+bQs3GKDJ4v/05WrNeoLy5No+PAra jQYaV8WQ0j3Dh3iImLo/Eyw/emcbjYiE+GJRoG838+ORpHdC2FJtdcQhoE00Tw== Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (portscout.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RyD8K44VhzYJx for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.10]) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 38U42vvI093355 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 04:02:57 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 38U42vpf093354; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 04:02:57 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202309300402.38U42vpf093354@portscout.nyi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.nyi.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2023 04:02:57 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Unmaintained FreeBSD ports which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 Dear port maintainers, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more unmaintained ports appears to be out of date. 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From nobody Sat Sep 30 13:38:24 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RySwL6Srbz4w61y for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 13:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (mail.rcn.syn-alias.com [129.213.13.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RySwK70vKz4FpC for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 13:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=cLJ29jZr; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 129.213.13.252 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1696081105; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=C/xXS4M0BQDTpjhTwI1yu4kabfA=; b=cLJ29jZrpy/7Ty31OFxcg4DEi1nyXZZJBE4U39YYTvXnIjBVMsERIO6AQH6Oo0Kh /NjYvqN2lZ2CYH26BPhkZiflsbB3IQqjjm3AanFgkt09zxyy6zIVNm3NHkZTt2Va rwqWwdocMkljhLLrA6m89/F9wtmJPNQcgQTrsl/b4zNfyM6lLsi41tBnF7/8INge d7rMU9bxTRyYmdDzIUHGGaSgHwz0/WHH6kAaMRAuTFx9/EjS1xHSPGvFDRCq5d0a CDFxCANJlDD8A+zM+E6BHlCK3zofsZnVEZXqbLjYw4O45PoPS7olQXrRO2Cmgfnu MwXi/1kw7tjCMvhP/vAZEQ==; X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [130.44.151.156] ([130.44.151.156:12587] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 4.4.1.20033 r(msys-ecelerity:tags/4.4.1.0^0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id BA/53-05311-1D428156; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:38:25 -0400 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <25880.9424.185373.229455@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:38:24 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: quick git question X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 29.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis-1: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedruddugddthecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhf X-Vade-Analysis-2: ihhlvgemucfujgfpteevqfftpdftvefppdfgpfggqdftvefppdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucef X-Vade-Analysis-3: tddunecunecujfgurhepgggtgffkfffhvffuofesthejredtredtvdenucfhrhhomheptfhosggvrhht X-Vade-Analysis-4: ucfjuhhffhcuoehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffhesrhgtnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudef X-Vade-Analysis-5: udegteeiledufefhiedtffetkeegjefhkeeukeegveffkeelvdejvdelgeefnecukfhppedufedtrdeg X-Vade-Analysis-6: gedrudehuddrudehieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedufedt X-Vade-Analysis-7: rdeggedrudehuddrudehiedphhgvlhhopehjvghruhhsrghlvghmrdhlihhtthgvrhgrthhushdrohhr X-Vade-Analysis-8: ghdrlhhithhtvghrrghtuhhsrdhorhhgpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhfsehrtghn X-Vade-Analysis-9: rdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepphhorhhtshesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghdpmhhtrghhohhsthepshhm X-Vade-Analysis-10: thhptddvrdhrtghnrdgvmhgrihhlqdgrshhhuddrshihnhgtrdhlrghnpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedu X-Vade-Analysis-11: pdhishgpnhgrpehtrhhuvgdprghuthhhpghushgvrheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhf X-Vade-Client: RCN X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:129.213.13.252/32]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[129.213.13.252:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31898, ipnet:129.213.8.0/21, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RySwK70vKz4FpC Hello: On a system running: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #0 main-f0a15aafcb Mon Oct 31 08:19:54 EDT 2022 amd64 I upgrade ports daily using portmaster and a fully populated ports tree, which is updated nightly using "git pull --ff-only". About a week ago, Something Happened(tm) and the contents of www/chromium got mangled to the point they had to completely scrubbed. (The directory and permissions are still intact.) I want to: a) re-pull just the contents of that directory. b) deal with the (git) bookkeeping so I can go back to using the usual update procedure. What is the correct set of commands to do this? (Obviously, not a git guru - I mostly cut-and-pasted stuff from the Handbook and went on to other matters.) Respectfully, Robert Huff From nobody Sat Sep 30 13:46:52 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RyT6G19CDz4w6Bm for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 13:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Received: from mail.protected-networks.net (mail.protected-networks.net [202.12.127.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.protected-networks.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RyT6F6PVHz4Gt9 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 13:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= protected-networks.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:in-reply-to:from:from:content-language:references :subject:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:date:message-id; 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5716, ipnet:202.12.127.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RyT6F6PVHz4Gt9 On 9/30/23 09:38, Robert Huff wrote: > > Hello: > On a system running: > > FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT #0 main-f0a15aafcb > Mon Oct 31 08:19:54 EDT 2022 > amd64 > > I upgrade ports daily using portmaster and a fully populated ports > tree, which is updated nightly using "git pull --ff-only". > About a week ago, Something Happened(tm) and the contents of > www/chromium got mangled to the point they had to completely scrubbed. > (The directory and permissions are still intact.) > I want to: > a) re-pull just the contents of that directory. > b) deal with the (git) bookkeeping so I can go back to using the > usual update procedure. > What is the correct set of commands to do this? > (Obviously, not a git guru - I mostly cut-and-pasted stuff from > the Handbook and went on to other matters.) cd /usr/ports/www/chromium rm -rf * git restore . .. will likely get you back to consistency. You may also wish to check the output of .. cd /usr/ports git status git diff .. for any wider scale issues, Michael From nobody Sat Sep 30 19:33:45 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RycpM6Pbtz4vkRD for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (mail.rcn.syn-alias.com [129.213.13.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RycpM4bnkz3GM6 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1696102426; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=W40/LATWqLkDJSe/Mc8n+PgWjQY=; b=XjlqbbcvZwl+K6UXFLlRB6OFDMtb2S1FXjwrwswovkt/5loFE2wGGJh9yUK2XQMz +1AVMj4LvmSqOKVnJZnejL1K5GhCeb89Key2+9OjKe5D5YULs5z3ZAosxuhyBr2w 8GJ6KtjV/WKJWXqoQC+sSwTwDHE2mZB0YCvbn7BRgrQx89v526L0gkmJ5Nco1Bla i4Aq31DfHQbxus0VIWA8te9b9Nd8kHG6POlSDDlvMDyTmcVHBM6lC4BKQoAk3qGs ifR/7UR31ymu8oTs+xesBmSH2W0lcARFTaMQQQx+w2EO+0MLC+XMMHP8yt5/X/yD sd9KZXbT4PKszMDmlEKD6A==; X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Received: from [130.44.151.156] ([130.44.151.156:23120] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 4.4.1.20033 r(msys-ecelerity:tags/4.4.1.0^0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id C7/EF-05311-A1878156; Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:33:46 -0400 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <25880.30745.551446.23317@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2023 15:33:45 -0400 From: Robert Huff To: Michael Butler , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick git question In-Reply-To: <4cc0a474-d3a3-454e-87cd-d9d0de649c63@protected-networks.net> References: <25880.9424.185373.229455@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4cc0a474-d3a3-454e-87cd-d9d0de649c63@protected-networks.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 29.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis-1: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrudefgdduvdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhf X-Vade-Analysis-2: ihhlvgemucfujgfpteevqfftpdftvefppdfgpfggqdftvefppdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucef X-Vade-Analysis-3: tddunecunecujfgurhepgggtgffkfffhvffujghfofesthejredtredtvdenucfhrhhomheptfhosggv X-Vade-Analysis-4: rhhtucfjuhhffhcuoehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffhesrhgtnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhep X-Vade-Analysis-5: tddtleektefhgeeggfevleeugedvleduheeuuedvgeejiedvffeiffeftefhgfeunecukfhppedufedt X-Vade-Analysis-6: rdeggedrudehuddrudehieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedu X-Vade-Analysis-7: fedtrdeggedrudehuddrudehiedphhgvlhhopehjvghruhhsrghlvghmrdhlihhtthgvrhgrthhushdr X-Vade-Analysis-8: ohhrghdrlhhithhtvghrrghtuhhsrdhorhhgpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhfsehr X-Vade-Analysis-9: tghnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepphhorhhtshesfhhrvggvsghsugdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopehi X-Vade-Analysis-10: mhgssehprhhothgvtghtvgguqdhnvghtfihorhhkshdrnhgvthdpmhhtrghhohhsthepshhmthhptddv X-Vade-Analysis-11: rdhrtghnrdgvmhgrihhlqdgrshhhuddrshihnhgtrdhlrghnpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhishgp X-Vade-Analysis-12: nhgrpehtrhhuvgdprghuthhhpghushgvrheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhf X-Vade-Client: RCN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31898, ipnet:129.213.8.0/21, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RycpM4bnkz3GM6 Michael Butler: > cd /usr/ports/www/chromium > rm -rf * > git restore . That did it! Respectfully, Robert Huff