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Since the end of December, I haven't been able to get a working desktop that way, sddm-greeter reproducibly dumps core on me in the newly created BE. Following the approach above *without* "pkg update" results in a working BE, so I conclude the procedure as such is sound. Is this a known issue (initial research doesn't indicate it)? AFAICT, sddm itself hasn't changed in a while (I haven't worked with ports so far, I found "make extract" command online and did that, Changelog stops in 2020) How do I go about debugging greeter-core in /var/lib/sddm/ (meaningfully)? I so far got a backtrace sans symbols ... I know my way around gdb, lldb not so much, and both not on FreeBSD TIA for any advice, pointer ... Michael -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ recursion, n: see 'recursion' --000000000000b2840605f3f6b1ac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

currently running FreeBSD 13.1-RE= LEASE-p3 on an AMD- and renoir-based laptop, everything ZFS.

my routine update of goes something like this:
- create a new boot env based off the current one, mount on /mnt<= br>
- pkg update on /mnt ("pkg -c= /mnt update")
- activate new BE, umount it and reboot.

Since the end of Decembe= r, I haven't been able to get a working desktop that way, sddm-greeter = reproducibly dumps core on me in the newly created BE.
Following the approach above *without* "pkg update" resu= lts in a working BE, so I conclude the procedure as such is sound.

Is this a known issue= (initial research doesn't indicate it)?
AFAICT= , sddm itself hasn't changed in a while (I haven't worked with port= s so far, I found "make extract" command online and did that, Cha= ngelog stops in 2020)
How do I go about debugging g= reeter-core in /var/lib/sddm/ (meaningfully)? I so far got a backtrace sans= symbols ... I know my way around gdb, lldb not so much, and both not on Fr= eeBSD
TIA f= or any advice, pointer ...
Michael
-- <= br>
recursion, n: see 'recursion'
=
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 6:49 AM Michael Schuster=C2=A0 w= rote:
Hi Mich= ael,
=
cur= rently running FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE-p3 on an AMD- and renoir-based l= aptop, everything ZFS.

my routine update of go= es something like this:
- create a new boot env based off the = current one, mount on /mnt
<= span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif">- pkg update on /mnt ("pkg= -c /mnt update")
= - activate new BE, umount it and reboot.

Since th= e end of December, I haven't been able to get a working desktop that wa= y, sddm-greeter reproducibly dumps core on me in the newly created BE.=C2= =A0
...=C2=A0
How do I go about debugging greeter-core= in /var/lib/sddm/ (meaningfully)? I so far got a backtrace sans symbols ..= . I know my way around gdb, lldb not so much, and both not on FreeBSD

If symbols are missing, then at the very leas= t ssdm
ne= eds to be locally compiled from The Ports=20 & installed
without stripping the resulting files. That may possibly
include compiling (s= ome|all) dependencies locally too.

See ...

Using the Ports Collection,
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/= books/handbook/ports/#ports-using

Building Packages with Poudriere,
https://docs.freebsd.= org/en/books/handbook/ports/#ports-poudriere

... you may start the festivities by in= stalling "git" (or "got",
never used myself) package.


- parv

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On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 1:36 PM parv/FreeBSD=C2=A0 wrote= :
On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 6:49 AM Michael Schuster=C2=A0 wrote:
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Sorry, "ssdm" should have been "sddm".


- parv


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Does freebsd support the cloud stack ( OpenStack ) to deploy a private cloud environment? ( Using FreeBSD as a base Operating System like Linux with KVM or go ahead with Linux+KVM+Openstack?) 2. Heard about bhyve ( Is this a Type 1 or Type 2 ?) If type 2 does it have performance bottlenecks(?) compared to a type 1 hypervisor like KVM or ESXi from VMWare. 3. To make an HCI of 3 node cluster does any specific Hardware requirements need to met related to the Server nodes ? ( Consider to form a HCI cluster of 3 nodes with Heterogeneous server nodes from different vendors to avoid vendor lock in ( Eg. one node from X, one from Y and third one from Z ) ? ( Not in the context of FreeBSD (if not supported), but in the context of VMware suite ( ESXi,vSAN etc.) I am sorry if anything is irrelevant asked.. Regards, Krish --00000000000025214e05f414391d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
List,

1. Does freebsd support the=C2=A0= cloud stack ( OpenStack ) to deploy a private cloud environment?
( Using FreeBSD as a base Operating System like Linux with KVM=C2=A0 or=C2= =A0 go ahead with Linux+KVM+Openstack?)=C2=A0

2. H= eard about bhyve=C2=A0 ( Is this a Type 1 or Type 2 ?) If type 2=C2=A0 does= it have performance bottlenecks(?) compared to a type 1 hypervisor like KV= M or ESXi from VMWare.

3. To make an HCI of 3 node= cluster does=C2=A0 any specific=C2=A0 Hardware requirements need to met re= lated to the Server nodes ? ( Consider to form a HCI cluster of 3 nodes wit= h Heterogeneous server nodes from different=C2=A0vendors to avoid vendor lo= ck in ( Eg. one node from X, one from Y and=C2=A0 third one from Z ) ?=C2= =A0
( Not in the context of FreeBSD (if not supported), but in th= e context of=C2=A0 VMware suite ( ESXi,vSAN etc.)

= I am sorry if anything is irrelevant asked..=C2=A0

Regards,
Krish

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Does freebsd support the cloud stack ( OpenStack ) to deploy a private > cloud environment? > ( Using FreeBSD as a base Operating System like Linux with KVM or go > ahead with Linux+KVM+Openstack?) > > https://freebsdfoundation.org/project/openstack-on-freebsd/ 2. Heard about bhyve ( Is this a Type 1 or Type 2 ?) If type 2 does it > have performance bottlenecks(?) compared to a type 1 hypervisor like KVM or > ESXi from VMWare. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhyve https://b3n.org/vmware-vs-bhyve-performance-comparison/ https://klarasystems.com/articles/virtualization-showdown-freebsd-bhyve-linux-kvm/ 3. To make an HCI of 3 node cluster does any specific Hardware > requirements need to met related to the Server nodes ? ( Consider to form a > HCI cluster of 3 nodes with Heterogeneous server nodes from > different vendors to avoid vendor lock in ( Eg. one node from X, one from Y > and third one from Z ) ? > ( Not in the context of FreeBSD (if not supported), but in the context of > VMware suite ( ESXi,vSAN etc.) > > Closest thing you'll get is probably this: https://cbsd.io/ At least, it's the only thing I'm aware of that's working towards an HCI goal of any sorts. > I am sorry if anything is irrelevant asked.. > > Nothing is irrelevant. I may suggest using google however as it's exactly how I pulled the answers to your questions. > Regards, > Krish > > ~Paul -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --000000000000a116c005f4154ec0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:03 PM = KK CHN <kkchn.in@gmail.com>= wrote:
List,

1. Does freebsd support the=C2=A0 cloud s= tack ( OpenStack ) to deploy a private cloud environment?
( Using= FreeBSD as a base Operating System like Linux with KVM=C2=A0 or=C2=A0 go a= head with Linux+KVM+Openstack?)=C2=A0




2. Heard about bhyv= e=C2=A0 ( Is this a Type 1 or Type 2 ?) If type 2=C2=A0 does it have perfor= mance bottlenecks(?) compared to a type 1 hypervisor like KVM or ESXi from = VMWare.

3. To make an HCI of 3 node cluster does=C2=A0 any specifi= c=C2=A0 Hardware requirements need to met related to the Server nodes ? ( C= onsider to form a HCI cluster of 3 nodes with Heterogeneous server nodes fr= om different=C2=A0vendors to avoid vendor lock in ( Eg. one node from X, on= e from Y and=C2=A0 third one from Z ) ?=C2=A0
( Not in the contex= t of FreeBSD (if not supported), but in the context of=C2=A0 VMware suite (= ESXi,vSAN etc.)


Closest thing you'll get is probably this:=C2=A0 https://cbsd.io/
At least, it's the only thin= g I'm aware of that's working towards an HCI goal of any sorts.
=

=C2=A0
I am sorry if anything is irr= elevant asked..=C2=A0


Nothing is irrelevant.=C2=A0 I may suggest using google however as it= 's exactly how I pulled the answers to your questions.
=C2=A0=
Regards,
Krish


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Would love to understand if anyone has a different viewpoint. The configuration is such that the disks (NVMe) are only 4-8x the size of physical RAM, and there is a lot of RAM + cores (128GB/1TB & 256GB/1TB). Working sets will fit easily into RAM. From the handbook: * the swap partition should be about double the size of physical memory (RAM) From the Architecture Handbook: * You should have at least 2x the swap space as you have main memory, and possibly even more if you do not have a lot of memory. * You should also size your swap partition based on the maximum memory configuration you ever intend to put on the machine so you do not have to repartition your disks later on. Using ZFS: * enabling mirror swap will break crash dumps My previous typical setup: * tweaked bsdinstall to create freebsd-swap partition * use gmirror + geli to mirror and encrypt swap * no dumps currently enabled * zfs mirror + stripe data/root volume I've reviewed both: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/exploring-swap-on-freebsd.78418/ and the message archives. I found the thread talking about ANON mmap'd pages, curious how those go with swap disabled, mmap(2) doesn't mention anything. It seems like with "large" RAM, no dumps, and "small" NVMe-backed storage, there is no reason to enable swap - and certainly not the official recommended 2xRAM. What am I missing here? 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To: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000bd5b2905f422dd1a" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PBGXG6C79z3Mck X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000bd5b2905f422dd1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:49 PM Derek (freebsd lists) < 482254ac@razorfever.net> wrote: > About to configure some new servers for production, and it feels like > for this configuration, there is no good reason to enable or provision > swap. Would love to understand if anyone has a different viewpoint. > > For what it's worth, I haven't configured swap on any of my systems for a long while. Memory is plentiful and so long as you operate within the bounds of your physical memory then there's nothing to fear. There may be some edge cases that I am personally unaware of where swap is actually useful, but I haven't ran into any. I know the above isn't much, but just a comment from my personal perspective. ~Paul -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --000000000000bd5b2905f422dd1a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:49 PM D= erek (freebsd lists) <482254a= c@razorfever.net> wrote:
About to configure some new servers for production, and it = feels like
for this configuration, there is no good reason to enable or provision
swap.=C2=A0 Would love to understand if anyone has a different viewpoint.

For what it's worth, I haven't= configured swap on any of my systems for a long while.
Memo= ry is plentiful and so long as you operate within the bounds of your physic= al memory then there's nothing to fear.
There may be some edge= cases that I am personally unaware of where swap is actually useful, but I= haven't ran into any.

I know the= above isn't much, but just a comment from my personal perspective.
=
~Paul

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To: Paul Procacci Cc: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net>, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000022307705f423e8ac" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PBJBD01xkz3kwl X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000022307705f423e8ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:31 PM Paul Procacci wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:49 PM Derek (freebsd lists) < > 482254ac@razorfever.net> wrote: > >> About to configure some new servers for production, and it feels like >> for this configuration, there is no good reason to enable or provision >> swap. Would love to understand if anyone has a different viewpoint. >> >> > For what it's worth, I haven't configured swap on any of my systems for a > long while. > Memory is plentiful and so long as you operate within the bounds of your > physical memory then there's nothing to fear. > There may be some edge cases that I am personally unaware of where swap is > actually useful, but I haven't ran into any. > > I know the above isn't much, but just a comment from my personal > perspective. > > ~Paul > > -- > __________________ > > The swap is usually for computers with less memory in the past to make computers usable when too many jobs are running. The two times of physical memory is ideally for maximum two sets of processes using the entire memory. More swap area means more time will be spent on swapping. If a machine has 1TB DDR, then 2TB swap makes no sense at all because the time of swapping 2TB memory with disk is significant. For some critical servers, I configure a few GB swap in case the little swap happens or the partition needs expansion. In the real world, swap area helps for some small and short life processes, but not useful for large and long life processes. For example, a 3-D imaging process needs 10GB memory to run and can finish in an hour on a PC with 16GB DDR, but will not finish in months on a PC that has a 8GB DDR + 16+GB swap because every row or column operation involves cache miss, fetch DDR, and swap, which cost 1000 or even more times of cycles than normal operations. -Jin --00000000000022307705f423e8ac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:31 PM Paul Proca= cci <pprocacci@gmail.com> = wrote:


On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:49 PM Derek (fr= eebsd lists) <482254ac@razorfever.net> wrote:
About to configure some new servers for productio= n, and it feels like
for this configuration, there is no good reason to enable or provision
swap.=C2=A0 Would love to understand if anyone has a different viewpoint.

For what it's worth, I haven't= configured swap on any of my systems for a long while.
Memo= ry is plentiful and so long as you operate within the bounds of your physic= al memory then there's nothing to fear.
There may be some edge= cases that I am personally unaware of where swap is actually useful, but I= haven't ran into any.

I know the= above isn't much, but just a comment from my personal perspective.
=
~Paul

--
_____= _____________

The swap is usuall= y for computers with less memory in the past to make computers usable when = too many jobs are running. The two times of physical memory is ideally for = maximum two sets of processes using the entire memory. More swap area means= more time will be spent on swapping.
If a machine has 1TB DDR, = then 2TB swap makes no sense at all because the time of swapping 2TB memory= with disk is significant.

For some critical serve= rs, I configure a few GB swap in case the little swap happens or the partit= ion needs expansion.

In the real world, swap= area helps for some small and short life processes, but not useful for lar= ge and long life processes. For example, a 3-D imaging process needs 10GB m= emory to run and can finish in an hour on a PC with 16GB DDR, but will not = finish in months on a PC that has a 8GB DDR + 16+GB swap because every row = or column operation involves cache miss, fetch DDR, and swap, which cost 10= 00 or even more times of cycles than normal operations.

-Jin
--00000000000022307705f423e8ac-- From nobody Wed Feb 8 12:07:36 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PBdzk3jfNz3n5Y8 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 12:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PBdzj3RRMz47lb for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 12:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it Received: from [192.168.113.67] (martin.centrocontabilebiesse.it [151.69.5.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 318C7YbZ065760 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 13:07:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host martin.centrocontabilebiesse.it [151.69.5.121] claimed to be [192.168.113.67] Message-ID: <5cdc2ef0-33e2-9465-0e65-6589b62e4256@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 13:07:36 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 Subject: Re: Current swap configuration: best practices? Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5cd5040b-d6c9-7c5f-9eae-e7e8a098eaca@chezmarcotte.ca> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <5cd5040b-d6c9-7c5f-9eae-e7e8a098eaca@chezmarcotte.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.86 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.73 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.935]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PBdzj3RRMz47lb X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/7/23 19:48, Derek (freebsd lists) wrote: > Using ZFS: > * enabling mirror swap will break crash dumps Ugh! Why so? Any pointer? I've got several gmirror-based swap partitions: these boxes did not crash in a long time, but I'd expect a coredump, should that happen... Any way to test this, instead of waiting for it to happen? bye & Thanks av. From nobody Wed Feb 8 13:33:48 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PBgvT08Ntz3nQFX for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 13:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.126.123]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PBgvS5964z4J1q for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e15b:23::23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 01C8641A91; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 08:34:00 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.400.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: Current swap configuration: best practices? From: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: <5cdc2ef0-33e2-9465-0e65-6589b62e4256@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 08:33:48 -0500 Cc: User Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <99898374-C698-4077-B52F-54CE547267B8@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> References: <5cd5040b-d6c9-7c5f-9eae-e7e8a098eaca@chezmarcotte.ca> <5cdc2ef0-33e2-9465-0e65-6589b62e4256@netfence.it> To: Andrea Venturoli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.400.51.1.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PBgvS5964z4J1q X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1312, ipnet:128.173.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:07 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 2/7/23 19:48, Derek (freebsd lists) wrote: >=20 >> Using ZFS: >> * enabling mirror swap will break crash dumps >=20 > Ugh! > Why so? Any pointer? > I've got several gmirror-based swap partitions: these boxes did not = crash in a long time, but I'd expect a coredump, should that happen... > Any way to test this, instead of waiting for it to happen? I also have gmirror-based swap partitions set up and have not had = problems with crash dumps being generated after kernel panics. There is a special note in the gmirror(8) man page on setting up crash = dumps. It's near the end of the man page (on my 13-STABLE system), and = begins with the sentence, "Doing kernel dumps to gmirror providers is = possible, but some conditions have to be met." 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To: questions@freebsd.org References: <5cd5040b-d6c9-7c5f-9eae-e7e8a098eaca@chezmarcotte.ca> <5cdc2ef0-33e2-9465-0e65-6589b62e4256@netfence.it> Content-Language: en-US From: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> In-Reply-To: <5cdc2ef0-33e2-9465-0e65-6589b62e4256@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.razorfever.net X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.29 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.995]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:162.250.196.0/24]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[razorfever.net]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:40788, ipnet:162.250.196.0/22, country:CA]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PBhvk15SKz4Lsg X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2023-02-08 07:07, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 2/7/23 19:48, Derek (freebsd lists) wrote: > >> Using ZFS: >> * enabling mirror swap will break crash dumps > > Ugh! > Why so? Any pointer? > I've got several gmirror-based swap partitions: these boxes did not > crash in a long time, but I'd expect a coredump, should that happen... > Any way to test this, instead of waiting for it to happen? > I think this is if you're using the ZFS-install path of the installer. I used to do this custom (e.g. dedicated partition on drive with gmirror), not sure what you get when you go this path through the installer: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall/ ZFS Partitioning Menu * Mirror Swap? - Whether to mirror the swap between the disks. Be aware that enabling mirror swap will break crash dumps. Press the Enter key to activate it or not. Wish I could give you more detail. 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Before the real network interface was added to the bridge, slaac was worki= ng correctly (on the device of the real interface). Once the interface is added to the bridge s= laac does not work anymore (on the bridge interface). However, it is possible to add an IPv6 address manually on the bridge. The= command "ifconfig bridge0 inet6 accept rtv_adv" succeed (return code 0) but the address is not set. The command "rtsol -d bridge0" return a strange message about "failed capabilities". All the other parameters in the file /etc/rc.conf have not been changed bu= t the bridge is built in a script and not defined in the file /etc/rc.conf. Do you have some ideas about the causes of this problem? 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Far too many exploits/bugs have happened that way around world. Use a VM or disposable, or remap IP ports, an unpriviledged user, etc. If people want to explore or make more ports, FreeBSD will compile and run many of the newer distributed sharing/filestorage/chat/crypto apps beyond amule too. Have fun :) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWAwK2fHArc https://duckduckgo.com/?ia=videos&iax=videos&q=voluntaryism https://odysee.com/@Anarchast:2 https://bitchute.com/ || https://rumble.com/ https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247 From nobody Thu Feb 9 01:41:22 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PC02X3Vftz3ng81 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 01:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PC02W4KhJz4NfF for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 01:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) Received: from [192.168.12.191] (unknown [172.56.249.7]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0AAF74E42A for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 19:41:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <5f35ad74-e690-3d99-249f-1b3615c083b8@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 20:41:22 -0500 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 Subject: Re: Running Apps As Root Considered Unwise [re: # amule, distributed apps] Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.07 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.971]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[128.135.20.70:from]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PC02W4KhJz4NfF X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/8/23 6:44 PM, grarpamp wrote: > On 2/8/23, Luciano Mannucci wrote: >> root@marietto:/usr/home/marietto # amule > > Users should probably not be running random applications > that they downloaded from the untrustable internet as root. Wow, this sounds like an advise from MS world. In case of UNIX when user was saying "I crashed the machine" I replied: you do not have admin/root privileges. If something went wrong it is not your fault, but the fault of the system, and my - sysadmin's - who didn't configure the system secure enough, so regular user can not do damage to the system or work of other users on the machine. Just my 2 cents. Valeri > Far too many exploits/bugs have happened that way around world. > Use a VM or disposable, or remap IP ports, an unpriviledged user, etc. > > If people want to explore or make more ports, FreeBSD will compile > and run many of the newer distributed sharing/filestorage/chat/crypto > apps beyond amule too. Have fun :) > > > > > > -- > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWAwK2fHArc > https://duckduckgo.com/?ia=videos&iax=videos&q=voluntaryism > https://odysee.com/@Anarchast:2 > https://bitchute.com/ || https://rumble.com/ > https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247 From nobody Thu Feb 9 01:44:06 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PC05h0twVz3ngdC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 01:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PC05g4yHsz4PPm for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 01:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) Received: from [192.168.12.191] (unknown [172.56.249.7]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 456294E44A for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 19:44:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <62910b27-6ed5-0ed4-50be-7bc78a079ac3@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 20:44:06 -0500 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 Subject: Re: Running Apps As Root Considered Unwise [re: # amule, distributed apps] Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <5f35ad74-e690-3d99-249f-1b3615c083b8@kicp.uchicago.edu> From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <5f35ad74-e690-3d99-249f-1b3615c083b8@kicp.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.07 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.971]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[128.135.20.70:from]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PC05g4yHsz4PPm X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/8/23 8:41 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 2/8/23 6:44 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> On 2/8/23, Luciano Mannucci wrote: >>> root@marietto:/usr/home/marietto # amule >> >> Users should probably not be running random applications >> that they downloaded from the untrustable internet as root. > My apologies, I 100% agree with you, just managed to miss your mentioning "root". You are 100% right, and my comment below is irrelevant. Valeri > Wow, this sounds like an advise from MS world. In case of UNIX when user > was saying "I crashed the machine" I replied: you do not have admin/root > privileges. If something went wrong it is not your fault, but the fault > of the system, and my - sysadmin's - who didn't configure the system > secure enough, so regular user can not do damage to the system or work > of other users on the machine. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Valeri > >> Far too many exploits/bugs have happened that way around world. >> Use a VM or disposable, or remap IP ports, an unpriviledged user, etc. >> >> If people want to explore or make more ports, FreeBSD will compile >> and run many of the newer distributed sharing/filestorage/chat/crypto >> apps beyond amule too. Have fun :) >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWAwK2fHArc >> https://duckduckgo.com/?ia=videos&iax=videos&q=voluntaryism >> https://odysee.com/@Anarchast:2 >> https://bitchute.com/  ||  https://rumble.com/ >> https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247 From nobody Thu Feb 9 08:23:32 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PC8yv30gCz3n2Hv for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 08:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4f900059c9326.b50d1e35823c7a9f94ead377c63d1de9@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PC8yt2prFz4Cr0 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 08:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4f900059c9326.b50d1e35823c7a9f94ead377c63d1de9@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1675931030; x=1678523030; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=DvtB34lYCYQbXqo91N98249btWJVuMCM+7g9Z4mC998=; b=R5T3Kcj8OH3kiHhPrTEVKyWBO5SABitfJp+e6YKfTp4iu48bqkdwi7GRnKcZ0wAaVKJ1sKDcYb8VVxQGv7ZEOz9pcCW/mMHjHnELziZAZuC2hMVngMyAiOYwkzDTBeSIbhxt3WZAbnhNGrVxV3bY14MPnPFc6QnC3l1GnXRFzZA= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRmOTAwMDU5YzkzMjYucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r1.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.190.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 9 Feb 2023 03:23:37 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 9 Feb 2023 03:23:35 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1pQ2DM-000IXG-W1; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 08:23:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 08:23:32 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: grarpamp Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running Apps As Root Considered Unwise [re: # amule, distributed apps] Message-Id: <20230209082332.11c7ca7f0c28a39005c8ff62@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PC8yt2prFz4Cr0 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 18:44:24 -0500 grarpamp wrote: > Users should probably not be running random applications > that they downloaded from the untrustable internet as root. Certainly not in any environment that's doing anything else or is trusted in any way. If the only thing at risk is a dedicated (virtual perhaps) machine connected only to the public internet then being root doesn't matter - otherwise it matters a lot. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From nobody Thu Feb 9 09:32:30 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCBVB4BN5z3nQP3 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 09:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 76nemo76@gmx.ch) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCBV928j1z4MSV for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 09:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 76nemo76@gmx.ch) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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It is described in the following quotation from the shell script used to create and activate the bridge. #By default and even, if in the file "/etc/rc.conf" #the variable 'ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"YES"' #is defined, the interface will be created with IPv6 #disabled. No local-link address is generated #and thus no IPv6 networking is possible. ifconfig bridge0 inet6 -ifdisabled ifconfig bridge0 inet6 auto_linklocal ifconfig bridge0 inet6 accept_rtadv best regards On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 21:12:13 +0100 Pierre Dupond <76nemo76@gmx.ch> wrote: > Hi All, > I am trying to configure a bridge with one real network interface a= nd one > tap interface (to make a virtual machine run with behyve). > > Before the real network interface was added to the bridge, slaac was wor= king correctly (on the > device of the real interface). Once the interface is added to the bridge= slaac does not > work anymore (on the bridge interface). > > However, it is possible to add an IPv6 address manually on the bridge. T= he command > "ifconfig bridge0 inet6 accept rtv_adv" succeed (return code 0) but > the address is not set. The command "rtsol -d bridge0" return a strange > message about "failed capabilities". > > All the other parameters in the file /etc/rc.conf have not been changed = but > the bridge is built in a script and not defined in the file /etc/rc.conf= . > > Do you have some ideas about the causes of this problem? > > Thanks for your help, > > > regards > From nobody Thu Feb 9 19:04:47 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCRBk2JK9z3nPPp for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-qt1-x82e.google.com (mail-qt1-x82e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCRBj3DNrz3MC6 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b="YB/P7xVO"; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info; dmarc=none Received: by mail-qt1-x82e.google.com with SMTP id h24so3104897qta.12 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:05:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=n2y3CAjWHHe6yx9c/PTOdFUPV1n9BaA9zAXTnB0IGTw=; b=YB/P7xVOASyyqTSZQFAa7BScS4YJv//A9sDNWt5S+6rHhjxP4+Jt9Z8TuFxFM8kW/i A7j9Cn9H1Tx1f3K/XLIlsFtx24wRuJf5e9XrSKMgTp0ZPJVWcx4ezzgR3hpiy413mY25 lPt8kfyGhORRL70u7LZJVbjcCq5HHeJ+wSmijsCLHQVcMPe5rTowXRAxM1peNcCF+oFr AahwlTV2b+dAVT1l4gScpHvGcdBN+Ve4dmyhGHpOVUHpUw8C6H+Ikbg5GzeJXpCdVRG8 ZuTBASikYrnRWtua3S6md62hnoboVw/2wIXP0jyGOzKQeYu+giuy3JT80UCtmvmd4Xgf LZnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=n2y3CAjWHHe6yx9c/PTOdFUPV1n9BaA9zAXTnB0IGTw=; b=ELSvlsjmL/tCV9vobobHsZwqTRflaxXTgS/CjwCkgQUE09xaYT3nOTxjZsufibcqY5 +pczYZdOMHnW6EefUqB9amGJZ9QaD8XhKa5q+jLs2SlblooYd4kxOwiDe4LfUe8AMSu0 cShNF0uYGvj1sESaTWzy2sJ5SmPEboOVD9pTLkyjZ0UshMLAWVDVgJqOLzBlgoXFTOSs rtz4rHR4DU2mpuaGB8nKvcTGP6/exTeiOWdYahuP2K7hoB2yk0gtwCOImkRBPp1ugzff YC3KbEdtKOwzNXc1AfmJVnK6E6qQP1z9OOD0vFrBToPAoQGCuovrwsVIUvro9CoDJMMI R61Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKUeYuQKtiTKEgipNVMXf83QU4RhL0EvRPZNoe7qINnmC3mWBKn3 s3lU97VVNELjJ8lNWklY3bvKHXevOFnb3fba X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9yLk+8HETB+LqG4I+oc9A8TSLgaeAOwAG0qEO3Y3Ujr4B6tD/ppdQ6WCZzMDbLX3P5ElvdLg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:588:b0:3b9:b7c9:f0d3 with SMTP id c8-20020a05622a058800b003b9b7c9f0d3mr17355816qtb.43.1675969500421; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yb1-f174.google.com (mail-yb1-f174.google.com. [209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6-20020a376506000000b0071c535f3ff3sm1952891qkb.6.2023.02.09.11.04.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id g2so3560551ybk.8 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:04:59 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:343:b0:861:d599:c834 with SMTP id e3-20020a056902034300b00861d599c834mr1524200ybs.402.1675969499572; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:04:59 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:04:47 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: installer live cd general computer service features To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e:from,209.85.219.174:received]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PCRBj3DNrz3MC6 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello world :-) Is it possible to mount fuse filesystem with installer's live cd? Usually when servicing a client's computer I just need to boot off the usb drive and dump a filesystem onto external drive or simply rescue some files. I have some medical equipment at hand with some castrated pc i386 bios that does not boot linux but it boots the FreeBSD! :-) External drives are usually formatted to exfat or ntfs. These are available with fuse on FreeBSD. That seems not be available on Installer's LiveCD set. Would that be possible to add some nice computer service tools to the LiveCD (i.e. only to full DVD image)? This image is already often over single layer dvd image (I have switched to DVD DL 8GB disks already) or simply the USB stick image. It would be really nice _not_ to use Linux images at all anymore but the FreeBSD itself to perform generic servicing tasks from a bootable image :-) Any hints welcome :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From nobody Thu Feb 9 19:19:04 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCRW63Tckz3nRC6 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCRW534Vkz3RKT for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 319JJ4uI019598 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:19:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:19:04 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.1 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Language: en-US From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Upgrading 12.3 + OpenZFS from ports to 13.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.80 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PCRW534Vkz3RKT X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello. I'm about to upgrade a 12.3 machine which had OpenZFS from ports installed (in order to have encryption on some datasets) to 13.1 and thought I might ask before hitting my head... Any caveat? Is it just a matter of changing openzfs_load="YES" back to zfs_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf before booting the new kernel? Other things to check? bye & Thanks av. From nobody Thu Feb 9 23:34:10 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCY9K57mHz3pJr2 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 23:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCY9K4QgRz3Jkj for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 23:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D73A3200958; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 09 Feb 2023 18:34:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=langille.org; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1675985652; x= 1676072052; bh=KiPQc65XG5AMV+RzhD35/5GY9kMLIzs1lIjLjYnkM+I=; b=W xC6dRD9MjFOKCE26W1oZQ+sIZ/23QQXSgOEraW7j+/KdTjjpGy4ant0AYNFNV2Ki KUdifxxMKF7erVE1DeG4uv16zt+XwgHDFudjVTix3yEixOfHRQfETnFHAyOgP+/d fS/fE6BKpcc0fGY2zYMbz2PfCVf2t8MBt4qyb5/2Gj6I4d6KLyZFoREzGiu20DsS K1xvhcKekbrE07AtqnF71Elw2QaeIcqlhyIFDdJcuIEv7aZMwilthf9UCNo95yyf 45se4TSvrJn6rx82Q+CDcXfolXy5DKhBgTG7NG98SbjLjh3wfCBNeJUVQc0RqbSV MYeZtLZ/TBwwa4Sd3a20g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1675985652; x= 1676072052; bh=KiPQc65XG5AMV+RzhD35/5GY9kMLIzs1lIjLjYnkM+I=; b=i NSu8QFiACc6pB0kMdLyQWf/oihdBW0xu24bM5dYQ3BF9KhypYYDJmh3Vfp4P5pVw 8fSVNCvSzmSzR6f7byRmeIy5loRp+HeDCQeYtDDBoZm8hDwzCn9/sqZ5ebzkQbKz 4VdH7D2LXHfBd5oiMPwbjZAY9Di3MLJeRNAjr/i3y7En6teyMrr5uW/+/3BySAxC JwECaH/9k9oiVHLLBZJjLDmT1H42uDntZvhuPuWkn+kbFt6asQNqLMWKyCuGIVlj xppaO7cIN7WieG4FdBhK0A+PVNYG1wktrOb3VDBrsJojlHfp+y8lAoFhEQESdzSp vITTltgnZkSLpZa+eApJw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrudehgedgudduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepuffvvehfhffkffgfgggjtgfgsehtjeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghn ucfnrghnghhilhhlvgcuoegurghnsehlrghnghhilhhlvgdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepgeegteetjeevfedttdduledvteetvedugedvudfhtdeutedvfeeiieefhfev ieehnecuffhomhgrihhnpehlrghnghhilhhlvgdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiii gvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegurghnsehlrghnghhilhhlvgdrohhr gh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ifbf9424e:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:34:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Upgrading 12.3 + OpenZFS from ports to 13.1 To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: From: Dan Langille Message-ID: <1a606ad7-1379-a0b9-c3e5-3d01272a197c@langille.org> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:34:10 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.59 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PCY9K4QgRz3Jkj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29838, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Andrea Venturoli wrote on 2/9/23 2:19 PM: > Hello. > > I'm about to upgrade a 12.3 machine which had OpenZFS from ports > installed (in order to have encryption on some datasets) to 13.1 and > thought I might ask before hitting my head... > Any caveat? > > Is it just a matter of changing openzfs_load="YES" back to > zfs_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf before booting the new kernel? > Other things to check? You could try "zfs checkpoint" before starting, just in case. I do that. 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I've been running my own mail server for perhaps 15 or 20 years now, so I've been working with sendmail for a long time. PLEASE do not suggest I switch to postfix or one of the MTAs. I know sendmail and have lots of configuration established, and I don't want to go through that learning curve all over again. So, to the problem at hand. I've done lots of googling and reading, and this is what I've done: I think I understand that one must build sendmail from ports because the sendmail from pkg does not have TLS compiled in. (Why the hell not, I don't know). I have both a 12.3-RELEASE-p6 machine and a 13.1-RELEASE-p3 machine, and both act identically badly. I downloaded the latest ports tree (using git) and ran "make config", which presents these options: =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80 sendmail-8.17.1_6 =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=90 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=8C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=90 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] SHMEM System V shared memory support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] SEM POSIX semaphores support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] LA load averages support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] NIS Network Information Services/YP = support =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] IPV6 IPv6 protocol support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] TLS SMTP-TLS and SMTPS support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] DANE Enable DANE support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] SASL SASL authentication support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] SASLAUTHD SASLAUTHD support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] LDAP LDAP protocol support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] BDB Berkeley DB version 4+ support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] GDBM GNU dbm library support (option = COMPAT needed)=E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] SOCKETMAP Enable socketmap feature = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] CYRUSLOOKUP Enable cyruslookup feature = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] BLACKLISTD Enable blacklistd support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] SMTPUTF8 Enable unicode address support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] PICKY_HELO_CHECK Enable picky HELO check = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] MILTER Enable milter support = =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] MTA_STS Enable MTA-STS support (option S= OCKETMAP and T=E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [ ] TLS_CERT_CHAIN Enable certificate chain file su= pport (incompa=E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 [x] DOCS Build and/or install documentati= on =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=98 =E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80= =E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2= =94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94= =80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=80=E2=94=A4 =E2=94=82 < OK > =E2=94=82 I didn't change any options. Should I have? Then, of course, "make" and "make install", and then follow the instructions that are printed out at the conclusion of the last step. Next, in my freebsd.mc file, I added this: define(`CERT_DIR', `/usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live/my-site-name.com')dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH', `CERT_DIR')dnl define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/chain.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/privkey.pem')dnl define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `CERT_DIR/privkey.pem')dnl (except of course, I changed "my-site-name.com" to the actual directory where my certs are) (I've been using letsencrypt since late 2017 to generate certificates for the few websites I host.) I changed mailer.conf (both copies) to this: sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail hoststat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail purgestat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail So that the sendmail from ports is chosen. I run "make" in the /etc/mail directory, and "make stop" and "make start" to restart sendmail. I found that I had to "chmod 600 privkey.pem" to get sendmail to not complain about that file being group readable: Feb 9 19:51:39 my-site sm-mta[38802]: STARTTLS=3Dclient: file /usr/local/etc/letse ncrypt/live/my-site-name.com-0001/privkey.pem unsafe: Group readable file when I run this test: openssl s_client -connect localhost:25 -starttls smtp -showcerts I get this response, showing that STARTTLS isn't announced. CONNECTED(00000003) Didn't find STARTTLS in server response, trying anyway... 547012608:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number:ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:332: --- no peer certificate available --- No client certificate CA names sent --- SSL handshake has read 323 bytes and written 326 bytes Verification: OK --- New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE) Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported Compression: NONE Expansion: NONE No ALPN negotiated Early data was not sent Verify return code: 0 (ok) --- If I telnet into my server, I see this: Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.casano.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.17.1/8.17.1; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:36:46 -0500 (EST) ehlo m2.casano.com 250-mail.casano.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP quit So no announcement of STARTTLS there, either. The sendmail version is the one from ports. The "stock" version is 8.16.1, as seen here from an earlier test before I enabled the ports version: 220 mail.casano.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.16.1/8.16.1; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 16:34:35 -0500 (EST) I do see this in /var/log/maillog: Feb 9 19:51:14 my-site sm-mta[38691]: STARTTLS=3Dclient, relay=3D aero4.stememail.com ., version=3DTLSv1.3, verify=3DFAIL, cipher=3DTLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, bits= =3D128/128 which looks promising, but then why do the other tests not show STARTTLS present? I think this recitation includes all the changes I made to try to get this working. What am I missing? Are there any tutorials written in this decade for doing this? 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(authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 31A7MKII038503 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Feb 2023 08:22:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: <7036e259-cedf-ff79-57cf-f0ac785de10a@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 08:22:20 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.7.2 Subject: Re: Upgrading 12.3 + OpenZFS from ports to 13.1 Content-Language: en-US To: Dan Langille Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <1a606ad7-1379-a0b9-c3e5-3d01272a197c@langille.org> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <1a606ad7-1379-a0b9-c3e5-3d01272a197c@langille.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PClYW5Kbvz3DBV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/10/23 00:34, Dan Langille wrote: > You could try "zfs checkpoint" before starting, just in case. I do that. Uh! https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=268100 Luckily I'm not using UEFI here... In any case I always take ZFS snapshots (even when I don't take checkpoints). > I've updated a few hosts from 12.3 to 13.1 - and I also had VMware > snapshots of them. :) Sorry, physical machine here :) bye & Thanks av. 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I do that. > > Uh! > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=268100 > > Luckily I'm not using UEFI here... > In any case I always take ZFS snapshots (even when I don't take > checkpoints). Oh wow, I remember hearing about that one now. :/ > I've updated a few hosts from 12.3 to 13.1 - and I also had VMware > snapshots of them. :) > > Sorry, physical machine here :) Good luck. 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I did that with both "base" sendmail and ports sendmail, and got this: base sendmail: Version 8.16.1 Compiled with: DNSMAP IPV6_FULL LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS TLS_EC TLS_VRFY_PER_CTX USERDB XDEBUG ports sendmail: Version 8.17.1 Compiled with: DANE DNSMAP IPV6_FULL LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PICKY_HELO_CHECK PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS TLS_EC TLS_VRFY_PER_CTX USERDB XDEBUG So despite various claims on "the internet", base sendmail IS compiled with STARTTLS. What is missing in the base version is SASLv2. So, one mystery solved. I still can't get STARTTLS to "work", but I understand a little more. As to permissions: as stated in the original email, I was getting a permissions complaint from sendmail until I made some of the cert files 600. Bill Dudley On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 5:19 AM wrote: > Hello! > > I'm no expert, but I think your configuration below looks fine. > > You have the [x] on TLS, and your mc define lines are identical > to mine (except different path in CERT_DIR), and I also use > LetsEncrypt. I don't remember doing anything else than that > to get STARTTLS working. > > What do you see with "/usr/local/sbin/sendmail -d0.1"? > Do you see STARTTLS in the "Compiled with" lines? > If you do, then double check that you are running the sendmail > from ports and not from base. > (But I don't think that ports sendmail is necessary, I think > that base sendmail also has the TLS option compiled in.) > > Could possibly be a permissions thing. > My CERT_DIR is 700 root:wheel and the cert files in it are 600 root:wheel. > > Peter Olsson > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 08:21:28PM -0500, William Dudley wrote: > > I cannot get STARTTLS to "work", and all the tutorials I find on the web > > seem to > > be using FreeBSD 4 or 5? I've been running my own mail server for > > perhaps 15 or 20 years now, so I've been working with sendmail for > > a long time. > > > > PLEASE do not suggest I switch to postfix or one of the MTAs. I know > > sendmail and have lots of configuration established, and I don't > > want to go through that learning curve all over again. > > > > So, to the problem at hand. I've done lots of googling and reading, and > > this is what I've done: > > > > I think I understand that one must build sendmail from ports because > > the sendmail from pkg does not have TLS compiled in. (Why the hell not, > > I don't know). > > > > I have both a 12.3-RELEASE-p6 machine and a 13.1-RELEASE-p3 machine, > > and both act identically badly. > > > > I downloaded the latest ports tree (using git) and ran "make config", > which > > presents these options: > > > > > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > sendmail-8.17.1_6 > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > ??? > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] SHMEM System V shared memory support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] SEM POSIX semaphores support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] LA load averages support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] NIS Network Information Services/YP support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] IPV6 IPv6 protocol support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] TLS SMTP-TLS and SMTPS support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] DANE Enable DANE support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] SASL SASL authentication support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] SASLAUTHD SASLAUTHD support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] LDAP LDAP protocol support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] BDB Berkeley DB version 4+ support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] GDBM GNU dbm library support (option COMPAT > needed)??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] SOCKETMAP Enable socketmap feature > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] CYRUSLOOKUP Enable cyruslookup feature > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] BLACKLISTD Enable blacklistd support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] SMTPUTF8 Enable unicode address support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] PICKY_HELO_CHECK Enable picky HELO check > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] MILTER Enable milter support > ??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] MTA_STS Enable MTA-STS support (option SOCKETMAP > and T??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [ ] TLS_CERT_CHAIN Enable certificate chain file support > (incompa??? > > ??? > > ??? ??? [x] DOCS Build and/or install documentation > ??? > > ??? > > ??? > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > ??? > > > > > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > ??? < OK > > > ??? > > > > I didn't change any options. Should I have? > > Then, of course, "make" and "make install", and then follow the > > instructions that are printed out > > at the conclusion of the last step. > > > > Next, in my freebsd.mc file, I added this: > > > > define(`CERT_DIR', `/usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live/my-site-name.com > ')dnl > > define(`confCACERT_PATH', `CERT_DIR')dnl > > define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/chain.pem')dnl > > define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl > > define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/privkey.pem')dnl > > define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl > > define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `CERT_DIR/privkey.pem')dnl > > > > (except of course, I changed "my-site-name.com" to the actual directory > > where my certs are) > > (I've been using letsencrypt since late 2017 to generate certificates for > > the few > > websites I host.) > > > > I changed mailer.conf (both copies) to this: > > > > sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > hoststat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > purgestat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > > > So that the sendmail from ports is chosen. > > > > I run "make" in the /etc/mail directory, and "make stop" and "make start" > > to restart sendmail. > > I found that I had to "chmod 600 privkey.pem" to get sendmail to not > > complain about that file being > > group readable: > > > > Feb 9 19:51:39 my-site sm-mta[38802]: STARTTLS=client: file > > /usr/local/etc/letse > > ncrypt/live/my-site-name.com-0001/privkey.pem unsafe: Group readable file > > > > when I run this test: > > > > openssl s_client -connect localhost:25 -starttls smtp -showcerts > > > > I get this response, showing that STARTTLS isn't announced. > > > > CONNECTED(00000003) > > Didn't find STARTTLS in server response, trying anyway... > > 547012608:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version > > number:ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:332: > > --- > > no peer certificate available > > --- > > No client certificate CA names sent > > --- > > SSL handshake has read 323 bytes and written 326 bytes > > Verification: OK > > --- > > New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE) > > Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported > > Compression: NONE > > Expansion: NONE > > No ALPN negotiated > > Early data was not sent > > Verify return code: 0 (ok) > > --- > > > > If I telnet into my server, I see this: > > > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > > Connected to localhost. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > 220 mail.casano.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.17.1/8.17.1; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 > 18:36:46 > > -0500 (EST) > > ehlo m2.casano.com > > 250-mail.casano.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > > 250-PIPELINING > > 250-8BITMIME > > 250-SIZE > > 250-DSN > > 250-ETRN > > 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN > > 250-DELIVERBY > > 250 HELP > > quit > > > > So no announcement of STARTTLS there, either. The sendmail version is > the > > one from ports. The "stock" > > version is 8.16.1, as seen here from an earlier test before I enabled the > > ports version: > > > > 220 mail.casano.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.16.1/8.16.1; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 > 16:34:35 > > -0500 (EST) > > > > I do see this in /var/log/maillog: > > > > Feb 9 19:51:14 my-site sm-mta[38691]: STARTTLS=client, relay= > > aero4.stememail.com > > , version=TLSv1.3, verify=FAIL, cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, > bits=128/128 > > > > which looks promising, but then why do the other tests not show STARTTLS > > present? > > > > I think this recitation includes all the changes I made to try to get > this > > working. > > What am I missing? Are there any tutorials written in this decade for > > doing this? > > > > If you want to poke at my mail server, feel free: mail.casano.com > > > > Thanks, > > Bill Dudley > > New Jersey, USA > > > > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > --0000000000005f830305f459d7af Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter,

Thanks for the tip about "s= endmail -d0.1".=C2=A0 I did that with both "base" sendmailand ports sendmail, and got this:

base sendmail= :

Version 8.16.1
=C2= =A0Compiled with: DNSMAP IPV6_FULL LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAME= D_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PIPELINING SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS TLS_EC TL= S_VRFY_PER_CTX
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 U= SERDB XDEBUG

ports sendmail:

Version 8.17.1
=C2=A0Compiled with: DANE DNSMAP IPV6_FU= LL LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX = NEWDB NIS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PICKY_= HELO_CHECK PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLS_EC TLS_VRFY_PER_CTX USERDB XD= EBUG

So despite various claims on "the i= nternet", base sendmail IS compiled with STARTTLS.
What is missing in= the base version is SASLv2.

So, one mystery solved.=C2=A0 I still c= an't get STARTTLS to "work", but I understand a little more.<= /div>

As to permissions: as stated in the original email, I was getting a = permissions complaint from
sendmail until I made some of the cert files 60= 0.

Bill Dudley


On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 5:= 19 AM <list-freebsd-= questions@jyborn.se> wrote:
Hello!

I'm no expert, but I think your configuration below looks fine.

You have the [x] on TLS, and your mc define lines are identical
to mine (except different path in CERT_DIR), and I also use
LetsEncrypt. I don't remember doing anything else than that
to get STARTTLS working.

What do you see with "/usr/local/sbin/sendmail -d0.1"?
Do you see STARTTLS in the "Compiled with" lines?
If you do, then double check that you are running the sendmail
from ports and not from base.
(But I don't think that ports sendmail is necessary, I think
that base sendmail also has the TLS option compiled in.)

Could possibly be a permissions thing.
My CERT_DIR is 700 root:wheel and the cert files in it are 600 root:wheel.<= br>
Peter Olsson

On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 08:21:28PM -0500, William Dudley wrote:
> I cannot get STARTTLS to "work", and all the tutorials I fin= d on the web
> seem to
> be using FreeBSD 4 or 5?=C2=A0 I've been running my own mail serve= r for
> perhaps 15 or 20 years now, so I've been working with sendmail for=
> a long time.
>
> PLEASE do not suggest I switch to postfix or one of the MTAs.=C2=A0 I = know
> sendmail and have lots of configuration established, and I don't > want to go through that learning curve all over again.
>
> So, to the problem at hand.=C2=A0 I've done lots of googling and r= eading, and
> this is what I've done:
>
> I think I understand that one must build sendmail from ports because > the sendmail from pkg does not have TLS compiled in.=C2=A0 (Why the he= ll not,
> I don't know).
>
> I have both a 12.3-RELEASE-p6 machine and a 13.1-RELEASE-p3 machine, > and both act identically badly.
>
> I downloaded the latest ports tree (using git) and ran "make conf= ig", which
> presents these options:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????? sendmail-8.17.1_6 ????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ??????
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] SHMEM=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= System V shared memory support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] SEM=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 POSIX semaphores support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] LA=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0load averages support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] NIS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Network Information Services/YP support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0??= ?
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] IPV6=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0IPv6 protocol support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] TLS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 SMTP-TLS and SMTPS support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] DANE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Enable DANE support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] SASL=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0SASL authentication support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] SASLAUTHD=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 SASLAUTHD= support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] LDAP=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0LDAP protocol support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] BDB=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Berkeley DB version 4+ support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] GDBM=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0GNU dbm library support (option COMPAT needed)???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] SOCKETMAP=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Enable so= cketmap feature=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] CYRUSLOOKUP=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Enable cyruslo= okup feature=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] BLACKLISTD=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Enable bl= acklistd support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] SMTPUTF8=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Enab= le unicode address support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] PICKY_HELO_CHECK Enable picky HELO check=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] MILTER=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0Enable milter support=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] MTA_STS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Enab= le MTA-STS support (option SOCKETMAP and T???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [ ] TLS_CERT_CHAIN=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enable certificate = chain file support (incompa???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??? [x] DOCS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Build and/or install documentation=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 ???
> ???
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0??? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ??????
> ???
>
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????= ??
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0???=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<=C2=A0 OK=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0<Cancel>
>=C2=A0 ???
>
> I didn't change any options.=C2=A0 Should I have?
> Then, of course, "make" and "make install", and th= en follow the
> instructions that are printed out
> at the conclusion of the last step.
>
> Next, in my freebsd.mc file, I added this:
>
> define(`CERT_DIR', `/usr/local/etc/letsencrypt/live/my-site-name.com= ')dnl
> define(`confCACERT_PATH', `CERT_DIR')dnl
> define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/chain.pem')dnl
> define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl
> define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/privkey.pem')dnl
> define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl
> define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `CERT_DIR/privkey.pem')dnl
>
> (except of course, I changed "my-site-name.com" to the act= ual directory
> where my certs are)
> (I've been using letsencrypt since late 2017 to generate certifica= tes for
> the few
> websites I host.)
>
> I changed mailer.conf (both copies) to this:
>
> sendmail=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
> send-mail=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
> mailq=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/local/sbin/sendmail=
> newaliases=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
> hoststat=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
> purgestat=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
>
> So that the sendmail from ports is chosen.
>
> I run "make" in the /etc/mail directory, and "make stop= " and "make start"
> to restart sendmail.
> I found that I had to "chmod 600 privkey.pem" to get sendmai= l to not
> complain about that file being
> group readable:
>
> Feb=C2=A0 9 19:51:39 my-site sm-mta[38802]: STARTTLS=3Dclient: file > /usr/local/etc/letse
> ncrypt/live/my-site-name.com-0001/privkey.pem unsafe: Group readable f= ile
>
> when I run this test:
>
> openssl s_client -connect localhost:25 -starttls smtp -showcerts
>
> I get this response, showing that STARTTLS isn't announced.
>
> CONNECTED(00000003)
> Didn't find STARTTLS in server response, trying anyway...
> 547012608:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version > number:ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:332:
> ---
> no peer certificate available
> ---
> No client certificate CA names sent
> ---
> SSL handshake has read 323 bytes and written 326 bytes
> Verification: OK
> ---
> New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
> Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported
> Compression: NONE
> Expansion: NONE
> No ALPN negotiated
> Early data was not sent
> Verify return code: 0 (ok)
> ---
>
> If I telnet into my server, I see this:
>
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220 mail.casano.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.17.1/8.17.1; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:= 36:46
> -0500 (EST)
> ehlo m2.casano.com
> 250-mail.casano.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet = you
> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250-SIZE
> 250-DSN
> 250-ETRN
> 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
> 250-DELIVERBY
> 250 HELP
> quit
>
> So no announcement of STARTTLS there, either.=C2=A0 The sendmail versi= on is the
> one from ports.=C2=A0 The "stock"
> version is 8.16.1, as seen here from an earlier test before I enabled = the
> ports version:
>
> 220 mail.casano.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.16.1/8.16.1; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 16:= 34:35
> -0500 (EST)
>
> I do see this in /var/log/maillog:
>
> Feb=C2=A0 9 19:51:14 my-site sm-mta[38691]: STARTTLS=3Dclient, relay= =3D
> aero4.stememail.com
> , version=3DTLSv1.3, verify=3DFAIL, cipher=3DTLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, b= its=3D128/128
>
> which looks promising, but then why do the other tests not show STARTT= LS
> present?
>
> I think this recitation includes all the changes I made to try to get = this
> working.
> What am I missing?=C2=A0 Are there any tutorials written in this decad= e for
> doing this?
>
> If you want to poke at my mail server, feel free:=C2=A0 mail.casano.com
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Dudley
> New Jersey, USA
>
> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
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I am sure plenty of you have done this before... I've gotten as far as find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; find: rename: No such file or directory The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. 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I've gotten as far as > > find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; > find: rename: No such file or directory > > The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. > The usual utility to rename a file is "mv" (no quotes :-)) Does that help? > > Thanks, > Per > > > --0000000000001498fe05f46e33ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 15:59 Per olof Ljungmark <peo@nethead.se> wrote:
Hi all,

A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote ("= ;)
character from all files in a directory structure containing hundreds of thousands of files.

I am sure plenty of you have done this before... I've gotten as far as<= br>
find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g'= ; {} \;
find: rename: No such file or directory

The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there.

The usual= utility to rename a file is "mv" (no quotes :-))=C2=A0

Does that help?=C2=A0

Thanks,
Per


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I've gotten as far as > > find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; > find: rename: No such file or directory > > The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. > Some years ago I set about to write the mother of all renaming utilities exactly because I didn't want to have to go through endless contortions of sed, gerp, awk, ag, and so forth to do simple renaming tasks like yours. The result is 'tren' which does what you want rather trivially: find ./ -name '*"*' -exec tren -r'"'=X {} \; tren can do way more than this (and probably has plenty of undiscovered edge cases and/or bugs), but I use it regularly and it has vastly simplified my renaming tasks. Code and extensive docs here: https://gitbucket.tundraware.com/tundra/tren HTH... 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Untested. for f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do echo mv $f $(echo $f | tr -d '"'); done On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 10:23 AM Michael Schuster wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 15:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote (") >> character from all files in a directory structure containing hundreds of >> thousands of files. >> >> I am sure plenty of you have done this before... I've gotten as far as >> >> find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; >> find: rename: No such file or directory >> >> The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. >> > > The usual utility to rename a file is "mv" (no quotes :-)) > > Does that help? > >> >> Thanks, >> Per >> >> >> --00000000000063dc5805f46e7b15 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Remove the= first echo command to actually do any changes. Untested.
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 15:59 Per olof Ljungmark &= lt;peo@nethead.se&g= t; wrote:
Hi all= ,

A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote ("= ;)
character from all files in a directory structure containing hundreds of thousands of files.

I am sure plenty of you have done this before... I've gotten as far as<= br>
find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g'= ; {} \;
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The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there.

The usual= utility to rename a file is "mv" (no quotes :-))=C2=A0

Does that help?=C2=A0

Thanks,
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I've gotten as far as > > find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; > find: rename: No such file or directory > > The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. There's no rename command in the base system. 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DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PDZh20H5xz43jf X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/11/23 09:40, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 15:59 Per olof Ljungmark > wrote: >> >>     Hi all, >> >>     A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote (") >>     character from all files in a directory structure containing hundreds of >>     thousands of files. >> >>     I am sure plenty of you have done this before... I've gotten as far as >> >>     find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; >>     find: rename: No such file or directory >> >>     The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. >> > > > > > Some years ago I set about to write the mother of all renaming utilities > exactly because I didn't want to have to go through endless contortions > of sed, gerp, awk, ag, and so forth to do simple renaming tasks like yours. > The result is 'tren' which does what you want rather trivially: > >       find ./ -name '*"*' -exec tren -r'"'=X {} \; > > tren can do way more than this (and probably has plenty of undiscovered > edge cases and/or bugs), but I use it regularly and it has vastly simplified > my renaming tasks. > > Code and extensive docs here: > >       https://gitbucket.tundraware.com/tundra/tren > > > HTH... > I should have mentioned that - unless you also want your directories renamed - you need to restrict find to pattern matching only on files. Also - it is REALLY STRONG RECOMMENDED - that you do a full backup of the directory tree you're fiddling with. It's very easy to clobber file names during renaming which can wreak all manner of havoc. If you use tren, use the test option extensively until you are CERTAIN it will do what you want. 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I've gotten as far as >> >> find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; >> find: rename: No such file or directory >> >> The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. > > There's no rename command in the base system. Perhaps you meant to > install the sysutils/rename pkg but forgot? > No, I thought rename was part of the base system stupid me. So, without installing more ports I suppose sed(1) could do the job? From nobody Sat Feb 11 16:43:07 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PDby84FLsz3pM4v for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Received: from ns1.nethead.se (ns1.nethead.se [5.150.237.139]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature ECDSA (P-384)) (Client CN "ns1.nethead.se", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PDby76HGWz4Dnf for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nethead.se header.s=NETHEADSE header.b=yICLm0jV; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of peo@nethead.se designates 5.150.237.139 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=peo@nethead.se; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=nethead.se X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Nethead AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nethead.se; s=NETHEADSE; t=1676133789; bh=UoraNgx8tFSezdI9lG4c0fa5aWZTsw4kjU6Gi4HZwGA=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=yICLm0jV6KRZm6WRBGciQbWEG8qGRQIZ3tYQmY7zgZViloD5YpQwLoyRNqp3cv6ez hGLUvkgIR4epcukQz3nT9ITscU5T0/ZIfuPLtJ2JfpbxjpwS8gE8Jisfo/favoCV7+ C+7tziMPWphMFYAEWA1y3Jaa3UkAzKvUSlqkv3Mg= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:43:07 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.1 Subject: Re: remove double quote character from file names Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Per olof Ljungmark In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nethead.se,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:5.150.237.139:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nethead.se:s=NETHEADSE]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8473, ipnet:5.150.192.0/18, country:SE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nethead.se:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PDby76HGWz4Dnf X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/11/23 16:43, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > > Remove the first echo command to actually do any changes. 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Something like the following _completely_ _untested_ > code: > > ``` > #!/bin/sh > > for oldfname in $( find . -type f -name '*"*' -print ); do > newfname=$( echo $oldfname | sed -e 's/"/in/g' ) > echo mv -nv $oldfname $newfname > done > ``` > > This prints out a list of 'mv' commands to effect the change you want. > Which, as someone else wisely said you should examine closely to ensure > it is actually doing the right thing. Then, when you're satisfied that > it is, change 4 to read: > > mv -nv $oldfname $newfname > > obvious, I expect, but when I have done this, I > it all to a file and then review it, add the mv or whatever command to each line, and then feed that to the shell. --000000000000c99eb205f46ffeb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 9:29 AM Matth= ew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:

The tools from the base system that you need here are find(1), sed(1),
mv(1) and sh(1).=C2=A0 Something like the following _completely_ _untested_= code:

```
#!/bin/sh

for oldfname in $( find . -type f -name '*"*' -print ); do
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0newfname=3D$( echo $oldfname | sed -e 's/"/in/= g' )
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0echo mv -nv $oldfname $newfname
done
```

This prints out a list of 'mv' commands to effect the change you wa= nt.
Which, as someone else wisely said you should examine closely to ensure it is actually doing the right thing. Then, when you're satisfied that =
it is, change 4 to read:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mv -nv $oldfname $newfname



--000000000000c99eb205f46ffeb5-- From nobody Sat Feb 11 17:36:38 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PDd7v5pvZz3pjC2 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Received: from ns1.nethead.se (ns1.nethead.se [5.150.237.139]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-384) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "ns1.nethead.se", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PDd7t6FFTz4Q7f for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nethead.se header.s=NETHEADSE header.b=WJRoldbf; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of peo@nethead.se designates 5.150.237.139 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=peo@nethead.se; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=nethead.se X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Nethead AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nethead.se; s=NETHEADSE; t=1676136999; bh=m/x/q7KIEtFi0CbRaTgV1CVRUOMvoAtRIAgp52UhLfU=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=WJRoldbfew9YHNztCf5Igvi0Qm9jhf+4ClVNBFFtgibvAwzdx67mCwXL9siOJBzwc mVwOYMQUvqTxhnWdcQAz7nBeHXdo4KeHxzPpDCLsteU2r5l+GRxrxFi+a8YQ0iifuW dr/UseiHp3pEr1OpzccrbNFWRr3Lsn9+BrWZIhEA= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:36:38 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.1 Subject: Re: remove double quote character from file names Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <105187d9-2510-9209-8b35-c273aa20076b@qeng-ho.org> <119961fa-c43e-d78c-a0a1-0565535d0bb6@FreeBSD.org> From: Per olof Ljungmark In-Reply-To: <119961fa-c43e-d78c-a0a1-0565535d0bb6@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nethead.se,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:5.150.237.139:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nethead.se:s=NETHEADSE]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8473, ipnet:5.150.192.0/18, country:SE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nethead.se:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PDd7t6FFTz4Q7f X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2/11/23 18:28, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 11/02/2023 16:13, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> On 2/11/23 16:45, Arthur Chance wrote: >>> On 11/02/2023 14:58, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote >>>> (") >>>> character from all files in a directory structure containing >>>> hundreds of >>>> thousands of files. >>>> >>>> I am sure plenty of you have done this before... I've gotten as far as >>>> >>>> find . -type f -name '*"*' -exec rename 's|"|in|g' {} \; >>>> find: rename: No such file or directory >>>> >>>> The find part works but not renaming so I'm missing something there. >>> >>> There's no rename command in the base system. Perhaps you meant to >>> install the sysutils/rename pkg but forgot? >>> >> >> No, I thought rename was part of the base system stupid me. So, >> without installing more ports I suppose sed(1) could do the job? >> > > The tools from the base system that you need here are find(1), sed(1), > mv(1) and sh(1).  Something like the following _completely_ _untested_ > code: > > ``` > #!/bin/sh > > for oldfname in $( find . -type f -name '*"*' -print ); do >     newfname=$( echo $oldfname | sed -e 's/"/in/g' ) >     echo mv -nv $oldfname $newfname > done > ``` > > This prints out a list of 'mv' commands to effect the change you want. > Which, as someone else wisely said you should examine closely to ensure > it is actually doing the right thing. Then, when you're satisfied that > it is, change 4 to read: > >    mv -nv $oldfname $newfname > > ensure you have good backups, and go for it. > Exactly what I needed, thanks a lot! 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Untested. > > for f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do echo mv $f $(echo $f | tr -d > > '"'); done > > Produced "No such file or directory" errors. You must have spaces in the filenames. You can deal with that using IFS. > > > --0000000000001cef6f05f470639e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 11:43 AM Per olo= f Ljungmark <peo@nethead.se> wr= ote:
On 2/11/23 = 16:43, Scott Ballantyne wrote:
>
> Remove the first echo command to actually do any changes. Untested. > for f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do echo mv $f $(e= cho $f | tr -d
> '"'); done

Produced=C2=A0 "No such file or directory" errors.

You must have spaces in the filenames. You can deal with = that using IFS.

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--0000000000001cef6f05f470639e-- From nobody Sat Feb 11 18:31:49 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PDfMf4Sk8z3pqPf for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PDfMd5SLtz4YFy for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=panix.com header.s=panix header.b=eaAUe8rG; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=panix.com Received: from rain.cave (unknown [73.142.21.0]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4PDfMW3fK3zGq3 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 13:31:51 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1676140311; bh=GZy4pA0WKOYkRlNC4ajgGlg8c+E/eeX/j51EzTsvV7Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=eaAUe8rGAggemb9AmshlSLtoy7GKR1DnxHKk1605AcpcRK2HYna00tG/4SSYA1epy 2G/J4351uS8KB+y9e62O6q5nhecahcsCTdeyCQ3tztkzCv9+EkOPOl+/gQK7HcxCqP 8XeKC2WZgQ5JPz6dHfGG58OOURU+s8/+yEsL++w8= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 13:31:49 -0500 From: Kurt Hackenberg To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove double quote character from file names Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.9 (2022-11-12) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[panix.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[panix.com:s=panix]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.1.64/26]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[166.84.1.89:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[panix.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PDfMd5SLtz4YFy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 03:58:50PM +0100, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote (") >character from all files in a directory structure containing hundreds of >thousands of files. That's nasty. Be careful, keep backups. I might use a full-on programming language -- maybe Python or Ruby -- to avoid the difficulties of shell parsing and quoting. 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Be careful, keep backups. > > I might use a full-on programming language -- maybe Python or Ruby -- > to avoid the difficulties of shell parsing and quoting. However, if you > want to do it through a shell, this might be helpful: > > > > My way. Doesn't account for spaces in filenames, but that's easily added with -print0 flags to find and -0 flags to xargs: ls *\"* | perl -lne '$n=$_;$n=~tr/"//d;rename($_,$n);' ~Paul -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --0000000000004642f905f470f34e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 1:32 PM = Kurt Hackenberg <kh@panix.com> wr= ote:
On Sat, Feb= 11, 2023 at 03:58:50PM +0100, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:

>A little help on the way, I need to find and remove the double quote (&= quot;)
>character from all files in a directory structure containing hundreds o= f
>thousands of files.

That's nasty. Be careful, keep backups.

I might use a full-on programming language -- maybe Python or Ruby --
to avoid the difficulties of shell parsing and quoting. However, if you want to do it through a shell, this might be helpful:

<https://dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shel= l.html>


My way.=C2=A0 Doesn't account for spaces in file= names, but that's easily added with -print0 flags to find and -0 flags = to xargs:

ls *\"* | perl -lne '$n=3D$_;$n=3D~tr/"//d;rename($_,$n);'= ;

~Paul

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charset="UTF-8" Script started on Sat Feb 11 13:17:38 2023 $ touch \"f\"o\"o $ touch \"bar\" $ touch \"f\ o\ o\" $ ls "bar" "f o o" "f"o"o typescript $ for f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do mv $f $(echo $f | tr -d '"'); done mv: rename ./"f to ./f: No such file or directory mv: rename o to o: No such file or directory mv: rename o" to o: No such file or directory $ S="$IFS" $ IFS="\n" $ for f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do mv $f $(echo $f | tr -d '"'); done $ ls bar f o o foo typescript $ IFS="$S" $ exit Script done on Sat Feb 11 13:21:41 2023 On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 1:00 PM Scott Ballantyne wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 11:43 AM Per olof Ljungmark > wrote: > >> On 2/11/23 16:43, Scott Ballantyne wrote: >> > >> > Remove the first echo command to actually do any changes. Untested. >> > for f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do echo mv $f $(echo $f | tr -d >> > '"'); done >> >> Produced "No such file or directory" errors. > > > You must have spaces in the filenames. You can deal with that using IFS. > > >> > >> >> --000000000000c8d7ff05f47109c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Script started on Sat Feb 11 13:17:38 2023
$ touch \&q= uot;f\"o\"o
$ touch \"bar\"
$ touch \"f\ o\ = o\"
$ ls
"bar" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &quo= t;f o o" =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "f"o"o =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0typescript
$ for f in $(find . -type f -n= ame '*"*'); do =C2=A0mv $f $(echo $f | tr -d '"')= ; done
mv: rename ./"f to ./f: No such file or directory
mv: ren= ame o to o: No such file or directory
mv: rename o" to o: No such f= ile or directory
$ S=3D"$IFS"
$ IFS=3D"\n"
$ f= or f in $(find . -type f -name '*"*'); do mv $f $(echo $f | tr= -d '"'); done
$ ls
bar =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 f o o =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 foo =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 typescript
$ IFS=3D"$S"
$ e= xit
Script done on Sat Feb 11 13:21:41 2023

--000000000000c8d7ff05f47109c8-- From nobody Sat Feb 11 18:50:29 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PDfnD73Ljz3pt8H for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0x1eef@protonmail.com) Received: from mail-40133.protonmail.ch (mail-40133.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PDfnD4yyDz4kyl for ; Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 0x1eef@protonmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:50:29 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1676141438; x=1676400638; bh=ztdA13RZfg2T6ftFk5evNC9BL8I1wTpiVDudRxhLjwU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=QYXPggKa9horkpw34uKt28CY+6s3S3BYSitXZ5CkZ497/uEhoUyI4AdP2WcXGebU+ bbKoDCa1wRqI+hTX681OQDJQgZY1iEgq9rxn8OwaKnrAC4KjZP36VF4SMwtBAbB/Lg PVuQWyApKUG20HylSnqwyWoQ34g7yNbYGvmfY8s5VjKYvNpAipBfvSJ/GOdJ45OylG ehnjzua6Ugfk37CYcNKgy1EuuIXjMbdsgf7Ez9o2E5hw4otzK6Hk7YVI4QVlOIPk0h +spZb49HIFyQm/M+Pa0z+OH4K1nAmmvV9x3+3sX0Ql4IFZ6bDNKxoz/s49JdEhEebe SGI2rVoq4y2pA== To: Kurt Hackenberg From: 0x1eef <0x1eef@protonmail.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove double quote character from file names Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 39071764:user:proton List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PDfnD4yyDz4kyl X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:CH] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > However, if you want to do it through a shell,=20 > this might be helpful: >=20 > https://dwheeler.com/essays/filenames-in-shell.html Indeed, helpful ! Informative, and served to remind me that=20 I need to start using "shellcheck" sooner rather than later.=20 Thanks. 0x1eef