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freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote= :
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

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I used freebsd-update to upgrade. root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU 13.2-RELEASE-p1 13.2-RELEASE-p1 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001 root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # > Graham Perrin > June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM > > freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU > > What's reported? > > > On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote: > > That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1. > > When you updated, which guide did you follow? > > Tom Everett > June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM > Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, > perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on > previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console > output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and > stops responding to network traffic. > > The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help > the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? > > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 > CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 > Features=0x178bfbff > Features2=0x7ef8320b >   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >   AMD > Features2=0x75c237ff > Structured Extended > Features=0x219c91a9 > Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 > XSAVE Features=0xf >   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID > EBX=0x108b657 > SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) > avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware > threads > > > Tom Everett > June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM > Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, > perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on > previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console > output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and > stops responding to network traffic. > > The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help > the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? > > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 > CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 > Features=0x178bfbff > Features2=0x7ef8320b >   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >   AMD > Features2=0x75c237ff > Structured Extended > Features=0x219c91a9 > Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 > XSAVE Features=0xf >   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID > EBX=0x108b657 > SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) > avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware > threads > > -- Sent from Postbox --------------40578CBE380481946B2323C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #



June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads


June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads



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While I was gone, I ordered a new HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-3055xt as a replacement and bought from FreeBSD Mall the 13.2 AMD64 DVD. The Pavilion is running UEFI, but oddly it wasn't recognizing the DVD as a boot media until I went into the boot menu at startup and specifically selected the DVD drive. I also noticed that there was also the "Windows Boot Manager" listed which it seemed UEFI was default. The Pavilion came with a 500G SSD and a 2T HD. It seems that Windows OS has been installed on the SSD leaving the HD as available storage. I have also installed the system disk from the old server (1T HD) but it was formatted for the old bios (no UEFI boot partitions). After I booted up the FreeBSD DVD and entered shell mode I see (using gpart show) that nvd0 (SSD) shows the following partitions: efi (260M) ms-reserved (16M) ms-basic-data (476G) ms-recovery (5.3M) The ada0 drive is my old system disk with the following partitions: freebsd-ufs (/) (50G) swap (16G) freebsd-ufs (/var) (100G) freebsd-ufs (/tmp) (100G) freebsd-ufs (/usr) (200G) freebsd-ufs (/home) (465G) The ada1 drive is the 2TB with the following partitions: ms-basic-data (1.8T) So my questions are - 1) What the heck is this "Windows Boot Manager" and can I use it or must I destroy it? 2) Do I need to add the loader.efi to the efi directory on nvd0? 3) Can I mount nvd0? What mount type (FAT32?) do I use? That should get me over my first hump. My current plan is to install to the 2T hard drive and use the old system disk as a reference point to retrieve my DNS/Mail/Firewall stuff. Thanks for any help, Patrick --00000000000040142205fef7f0fa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I run my own domain which lost its main server (hardware i= ssue) about two weeks ago right as I was leaving for a two week family vaca= tion.=C2=A0 While I was gone, I ordered a new HP Pavilion=C2=A0Desktop TP01= -3055xt as a replacement and bought from FreeBSD Mall the 13.2 AMD64 DVD.
The Pavilion is running UEFI, but oddly it wasn't rec= ognizing the DVD as a boot media until I went into the boot menu at startup= and specifically=C2=A0selected the DVD drive.=C2=A0 I also noticed that th= ere was also the "Windows Boot Manager" listed which it seemed UE= FI was default.

The Pavilion came with a 500G SSD = and a 2T HD.=C2=A0 It seems that Windows OS has been installed on the SSD l= eaving the HD as available storage.=C2=A0 I have also installed the system = disk from the old server (1T HD) but it was formatted=C2=A0for the old bios= (no UEFI boot partitions).

After I booted up the = FreeBSD DVD and entered shell mode I see (using gpart=C2=A0show) that=C2=A0<= /div>
nvd0 (SSD) shows the following partitions:
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 efi (260M)
ms-reserved (16M)
ms-basic-data (476G)
ms-recovery (5.3M)

The ada0 drive is my o= ld system disk with the following partitions:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freebs= d-ufs (/) (50G)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0swap (16G)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0fr= eebsd-ufs (/var) (100G)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/tmp) (100G)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/usr) (200G)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0freeb= sd-ufs (/home) (465G)

The ada1 drive is the 2TB wi= th the following partitions:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ms-basic-data (1.8T)

So my questions are -

1) W= hat the heck is this "Windows Boot Manager" and can I use it or m= ust I destroy it?
2) Do I need to add the loader.efi to the efi d= irectory on nvd0?
3) Can I mount nvd0?=C2=A0 What mount type (FAT= 32?) do I use?

That should get me over my first hu= mp.=C2=A0 My current plan is to install to the 2T hard drive and use the ol= d system disk as a reference point to retrieve my DNS/Mail/Firewall stuff.<= /div>

Thanks for any help,

Patr= ick
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On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote= :
Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
= 13.2-RELEASE-p1
= 13.2-RELEASE-p1
= 13.2-RELEASE-p1
= FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
= root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #


Thanks. Do you still get hangs?


Do you still get the following line when you boot?

FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64


I get this, with 1302001:

root@fuji:~ #= head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today
Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The Regents of the Univ= ersity of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)


=


June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett= wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.=C2=A0 Since that= time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.=C2= =A0 There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic.=C2=A0

The system specifics are below.=C2=A0 Is there anything I can d= o to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Cop= yright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-proje= ct.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768=
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
=C2=A0 Origin=3D"AuthenticAMD"=C2=A0 Id=3D0x870f10=C2=A0 Family=3D0x17=C2=A0 Model=3D0x71=C2=A0 St= epping=3D0
=C2=A0 Features=3D0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR= ,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
=C2=A0 Features2=3D0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2= ,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
=C2=A0 AMD Features=3D0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP= ,LM>
=C2=A0 AMD Features2=3D0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch= ,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
=C2=A0 Structured Extended Features=3D0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,= SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
=C2=A0 Structured Extended Features2=3D0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
=C2=A0 XSAVE Features=3D0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
=C2=A0 AMD Extended Feature Extension= s ID EBX=3D0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSB= D>
=C2=A0 SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=3D32768
=C2=A0 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory=C2=A0 =3D 68717379584 (65= 534 MB)
avail memory =3D 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads


June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.=C2=A0 Since that= time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.=C2= =A0 There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic.=C2=A0

The system specifics are below.=C2=A0 Is there anything I can d= o to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Cop= yright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-proje= ct.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768=
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
=C2=A0 Origin=3D"AuthenticAMD"=C2=A0 Id=3D0x870f10=C2=A0 Family=3D0x17=C2=A0 Model=3D0x71=C2=A0 St= epping=3D0
=C2=A0 Features=3D0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR= ,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
=C2=A0 Features2=3D0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2= ,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
=C2=A0 AMD Features=3D0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP= ,LM>
=C2=A0 AMD Features2=3D0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch= ,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
=C2=A0 Structured Extended Features=3D0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,= SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
=C2=A0 Structured Extended Features2=3D0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
=C2=A0 XSAVE Features=3D0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
=C2=A0 AMD Extended Feature Extension= s ID EBX=3D0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSB= D>
=C2=A0 SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=3D32768
=C2=A0 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory=C2=A0 =3D 68717379584 (65= 534 MB)
avail memory =3D 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
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I don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. I issue: host slimline Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Here's the /etc/hosts: # $FreeBSD$ # # Host Database # # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts that # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of your # machine. # # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution order. # # ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org # # Imaginary network. #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend # # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: # # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 # # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own network # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or AfriNIC.) # # local additions 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra 192.168.2.3 Brother laser 192.168.2.4 AppleTV 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY 192.168.2.6 PS5 192.168.2.7 PS4 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline 192.168.2.10 Pi4B 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux 192.168.2.12 iPhone 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop and /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by resolvconf nameserver 192.168.2.1 nameserver 127.0.0.1 options edns0 and /etc/nsswitch.conf # # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file # $FreeBSD$ # group: compat group_compat: nis hosts: files dns netgroup: compat networks: files passwd: compat passwd_compat: nis shells: files services: compat services_compat: nis protocols: files rpc: files Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? -- FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed /usr/ports/.git/HEAD ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 From nobody Sun Jun 25 21:22:40 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qq3pt3zP4z4j7dg for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.200.34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qq3pt00bDz46VL; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAC9E115C; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:22:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo08-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo08-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3RFw-NdVdKqG; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gargamel-2.ascot.khubla.lan (d198-166-24-90.abhsia.telus.net [198.166.24.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E0A0E0E65; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 13.2-p1 hanging To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <280960a2-6406-97bc-173b-0ddc7a2ce75a@khubla.com> From: Tom Everett Message-ID: <90c9f1e5-b1eb-3c54-2f37-fc35ae1570af@khubla.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:22:40 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.60 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------98F4796B72338D4C7022968D" Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qq3pt00bDz46VL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------98F4796B72338D4C7022968D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit No hangs since yesterday afternoon.  I'll email back if it happens again. I'm on amd64.  I get: ---<>--- Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994     The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > Graham Perrin > June 25, 2023 at 1:16 PM > On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote: >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> I used freebsd-update to upgrade. >> >> >> root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >> 1302001 1302001 >> root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # > > > Thanks. Do you still get hangs? > > > Do you still get the following line when you boot? > > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > > > I get this, with 1302001: > > root@fuji:~ # head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > > >> >> >> >>> Graham Perrin >>> June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM >>> >>> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >>> >>> What's reported? >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote: >>> >>> That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1. >>> >>> When you updated, which guide did you follow? >>> >>> Tom Everett >>> June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM >>> Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, >>> perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice. Prior to that on >>> previous kernel versions, it had never hung. There is no console >>> output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and >>> stops responding to network traffic. >>> >>> The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help >>> the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights >>> reserved. >>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >>> FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 >>> FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 >>> (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git >>> llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) >>> VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 >>> CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz >>> K8-class CPU) >>>   Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 >>> Features=0x178bfbff >>> Features2=0x7ef8320b >>>   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >>>   AMD >>> Features2=0x75c237ff >>>   Structured Extended >>> Features=0x219c91a9 >>>   Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 >>>   XSAVE Features=0xf >>>   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID >>> EBX=0x108b657 >>>   SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 >>>   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >>> real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) >>> avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) >>> Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 >>> ACPI APIC Table: >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware >>> threads >>> >>> >>> Tom Everett >>> June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM >>> Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, >>> perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice. Prior to that on >>> previous kernel versions, it had never hung. There is no console >>> output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and >>> stops responding to network traffic. >>> >>> The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help >>> the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights >>> reserved. >>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >>> FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 >>> FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 >>> (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git >>> llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) >>> VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 >>> CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz >>> K8-class CPU) >>>   Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 >>> Features=0x178bfbff >>> Features2=0x7ef8320b >>>   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >>>   AMD >>> Features2=0x75c237ff >>>   Structured Extended >>> Features=0x219c91a9 >>>   Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 >>>   XSAVE Features=0xf >>>   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID >>> EBX=0x108b657 >>>   SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 >>>   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >>> real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) >>> avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) >>> Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 >>> ACPI APIC Table: >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware >>> threads >>> >>> >> > > Graham Perrin > June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM > > freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU > > What's reported? > > > On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote: > > That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1. > > When you updated, which guide did you follow? > > Tom Everett > June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM > Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, > perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on > previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console > output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and > stops responding to network traffic. > > The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help > the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? > > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 > CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 > Features=0x178bfbff > Features2=0x7ef8320b >   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >   AMD > Features2=0x75c237ff > Structured Extended > Features=0x219c91a9 > Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 > XSAVE Features=0xf >   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID > EBX=0x108b657 > SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) > avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware > threads > > > Tom Everett > June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM > Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, > perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on > previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console > output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and > stops responding to network traffic. > > The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help > the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? > > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 > CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 > Features=0x178bfbff > Features2=0x7ef8320b >   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >   AMD > Features2=0x75c237ff > Structured Extended > Features=0x219c91a9 > Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 > XSAVE Features=0xf >   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID > EBX=0x108b657 > SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) > avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) > Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware > threads > > -- Sent from Postbox --------------98F4796B72338D4C7022968D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit No hangs since yesterday afternoon.  I'll email back if it happens again. 

I'm on amd64.  I get:

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Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)




June 25, 2023 at 1:16 PM
On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #


Thanks. Do you still get hangs?


Do you still get the following line when you boot?

FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64


I get this, with 1302001:

root@fuji:~ # head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today
Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
       The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)





June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads


June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads




June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads


June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads



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Do you need/want it? If no, then I would suggest simply wiping all that cruft and go with the FreeBSD's installer defaults (either UFS of ZFS). Best, Holger From nobody Mon Jun 26 02:45:21 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqBzK4gdnz4hNtx for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 02:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x332.google.com (mail-ot1-x332.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::332]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqBzK2wVmz4019 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 02:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ot1-x332.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-6b5d57d7db9so2173022a34.3 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:45:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1687747532; x=1690339532; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=q7EiFRXZnm631j2er6s/vbaBaMqxC6UZ62VPQ8Yvvxw=; b=fryd/gWC5NsWG5fy+lSLcneL7RaWrAN0x/hbSjpjcPK1IjtVL+7u+ZfSedQQvCj2Z5 HyPkenLB9tYKwPiZjKHiAFT3W8t7v2D62kC1MttzIFyrn17NNHkcO0dHPjmwUwwm9ns7 CzhKhweZAQeWh9uvIqkCc/EbGg3w23pXFEgsSoEw77Gu2G/xgv7OSQKgtPAyvxmjko/A HEQV9GX9BTKBKqL8TdYLvzr//eqnSB4L317wnX9Tn8/bbg2muPyTYnfi8l86j+WpiHJ2 nmv+A3mbpPcKRfIrRTeddCsFnkYLi4+FaWyO1ECHnR4uskzK7xpBFKUUCLjKk2u9Ydce Q7Fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1687747532; x=1690339532; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=q7EiFRXZnm631j2er6s/vbaBaMqxC6UZ62VPQ8Yvvxw=; b=fsuk/zANs82ndhUxgtXXVZ2DS0JO/nCzUUjLNItV1hXsKO1imt0fNpJKBjMuPwkpaB sRCR/avlrB/zAHk105eqPNpsxjPl5UxecawrWfsovz0ukADZSKtAXJ2Xu1dN2E3gBlms R0QCzBfBjUO9dVtzn5mEGUr7c+i1aO7BcrkHqQ20RCoLkSdcK9xsNgEDn7kXtq1RI3g2 orDKyXT5omPq3CgfRSGebQt8MtpQLvuPwwSiCIO2Sj9dnFjylFkNP7SscdNw+jmJj3PR 25dslNhSyn1LOT/qqVM9q9YxWHPIteQfoVCROhn2YDWIPoA8+15X6k42/FHsobeWsB7I WNcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDx9RROFCUAvGQ/Q4Ch4Urc8HX+QRfJcxXxaAYTy567OjHXAkguZ 3zZjibv27QPASYfDE3ZYG9ovupjMGYmzkSYoxulAcazg X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ69MrUy6/MX2ezJ2OkjyL/RjIxSnj/Bwlzm1ZDRu4M6EKQeAAX4xrPrwGgMwqPLXzHhaB92R9b0vEwuVyYDqzw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:4a2:b0:6b1:6b1b:a430 with SMTP id l2-20020a05683004a200b006b16b1ba430mr18907242otd.0.1687747532139; Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:45:32 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <032e9da0-9436-3328-effd-463203a1eefa@mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: <032e9da0-9436-3328-effd-463203a1eefa@mailbox.org> From: Patrick Mahan Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:45:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for some guidance To: Holger Sebert Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001fafec05feff5872" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqBzK2wVmz4019 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000001fafec05feff5872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 5:00=E2=80=AFPM Holger Sebert wrote: > On 6/25/23 19:55, Patrick Mahan wrote: > > I run my own domain which lost its main server (hardware issue) about > two weeks ago right as I was leaving for a two week family vacation. Whi= le > I was gone, I ordered a new HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-3055xt as a > replacement and bought from FreeBSD Mall the 13.2 AMD64 DVD. > > > > The Pavilion is running UEFI, but oddly it wasn't recognizing the DVD a= s > a boot media until I went into the boot menu at startup and > specifically selected the DVD drive. I also noticed that there was also > the "Windows Boot Manager" listed which it seemed UEFI was default. > > > > The Pavilion came with a 500G SSD and a 2T HD. It seems that Windows O= S > has been installed on the SSD leaving the HD as available storage. I hav= e > also installed the system disk from the old server (1T HD) but it was > formatted for the old bios (no UEFI boot partitions). > > > > After I booted up the FreeBSD DVD and entered shell mode I see (using > gpart show) that > > nvd0 (SSD) shows the following partitions: > > efi (260M) > > ms-reserved (16M) > > ms-basic-data (476G) > > ms-recovery (5.3M) > > > > The ada0 drive is my old system disk with the following partitions: > > freebsd-ufs (/) (50G) > > swap (16G) > > freebsd-ufs (/var) (100G) > > freebsd-ufs (/tmp) (100G) > > freebsd-ufs (/usr) (200G) > > freebsd-ufs (/home) (465G) > > > > The ada1 drive is the 2TB with the following partitions: > > ms-basic-data (1.8T) > > > > So my questions are - > > > > 1) What the heck is this "Windows Boot Manager" and can I use it or mus= t > I destroy it? > > 2) Do I need to add the loader.efi to the efi directory on nvd0? > > 3) Can I mount nvd0? What mount type (FAT32?) do I use? > > > > That should get me over my first hump. My current plan is to install t= o > the 2T hard drive and use the old system disk as a reference point to > retrieve my DNS/Mail/Firewall stuff. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > > Patrick > > Sounds like you have pre-installed Windows on your new Pavillion > machine. Do you need/want it? > > If no, then I would suggest simply wiping all that cruft and go > with the FreeBSD's installer defaults (either UFS of ZFS). > > I got it installed on the 2T hard drive and left the SSD alone. Once I had a drive with a GPT for UEFI, it now shows up in the UEFI boot menu as a bootable device. I've since shuffled the order of what boot device to query first, moving the windows boot manager to the bottom of the list. It now boots without intervention by me into FreeBSD. Now I have to get all my services back up. I've gotten DNS up and NTP is working. I'm currently installing all of my packages I need to function (bash, emacs, python, dovecot, postfix, etc). So we shall see how it goes. 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On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 5:00=E2=80=AFPM H= olger Sebert <holger.sebert= @mailbox.org> wrote:
On 6/25/23 19:55, Patrick Mahan wrot= e:
> I run my own domain which lost its main server (hardware issue) about = two weeks ago right as I was leaving for a two week family vacation.=C2=A0 = While I was gone, I ordered a new HP Pavilion=C2=A0Desktop TP01-3055xt as a= replacement and bought from FreeBSD Mall the 13.2 AMD64 DVD.
>
> The Pavilion is running UEFI, but oddly it wasn't recognizing the = DVD as a boot media until I went into the boot menu at startup and specific= ally=C2=A0selected the DVD drive.=C2=A0 I also noticed that there was also = the "Windows Boot Manager" listed which it seemed UEFI was defaul= t.
>
> The Pavilion came with a 500G SSD and a 2T HD.=C2=A0 It seems that Win= dows OS has been installed on the SSD leaving the HD as available storage.= =C2=A0 I have also installed the system disk from the old server (1T HD) bu= t it was formatted=C2=A0for the old bios (no UEFI boot partitions).
>
> After I booted up the FreeBSD DVD and entered shell mode I see (using = gpart=C2=A0show) that
> nvd0 (SSD) shows the following partitions:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 efi (260M)
> ms-reserved (16M)
> ms-basic-data (476G)
> ms-recovery (5.3M)
>
> The ada0 drive is my old system disk with the following partitions: >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/) (50G)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0swap (16G)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/var) (100G)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/tmp) (100G)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/usr) (200G)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-ufs (/home) (465G)
>
> The ada1 drive is the 2TB with the following partitions:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ms-basic-data (1.8T)
>
> So my questions are -
>
> 1) What the heck is this "Windows Boot Manager" and can I us= e it or must I destroy it?
> 2) Do I need to add the loader.efi to the efi directory on nvd0?
> 3) Can I mount nvd0?=C2=A0 What mount type (FAT32?) do I use?
>
> That should get me over my first hump.=C2=A0 My current plan is to ins= tall to the 2T hard drive and use the old system disk as a reference point = to retrieve my DNS/Mail/Firewall stuff.
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Patrick

Sounds like you have pre-installed Windows on your new Pavillion
machine. Do you need/want it?

If no, then I would suggest simply wiping all that cruft and go
with the FreeBSD's installer defaults (either UFS of ZFS).


I got it installed on the 2T hard driv= e and left the SSD alone.=C2=A0 Once I had a drive with a GPT for UEFI, it = now shows up in the UEFI boot menu as a bootable device.=C2=A0 I've sin= ce shuffled the order of what boot device to query first, moving the window= s boot manager to the bottom of the list. It now boots without intervention= by me into FreeBSD.=C2=A0 Now I have to get all my services back up.=C2=A0= I've gotten DNS up and NTP is working.=C2=A0 I'm currently install= ing all of my packages I need to function (bash, emacs, python, dovecot, po= stfix, etc).=C2=A0 So we shall see how it goes.

Th= anks,

Patrick
--0000000000001fafec05feff5872-- From nobody Mon Jun 26 02:47:15 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqC1c6pMVz4hR0r for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 02:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [IPv6:2620:137:6000:10::142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "prime.gushi.org", Issuer "RapidSSL Global TLS RSA4096 SHA256 2022 CA1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqC1c5g4Xz41Tt for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 02:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple ([149.20.66.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by prime.gushi.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 35Q2lQgc036385 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 prime.gushi.org 35Q2lQgc036385 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gushi.org; s=prime2014; t=1687747649; bh=5mRE7//cXEsB/rhcRiGWTq7IeRY3wVJpUts38wdckR0=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; z=Subject:=20Re:=20Using=20/etc/hosts,=20not=20dns|From:=20"Dan=20M ahoney=20(Ports)"=20|In-Reply-To:=20<846f37ec-c 0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com>|Date:=20Sun,=2025=20Jun=2020 23=2019:47:15=20-0700|Cc:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20Mailing=20List=2 0|References:=20<846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a -6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com>|To:=20Steven=20Friedrich=20; b=bqOiVw72ZCuApREovcek7S567Feg0i44i7VpPHVHZQMqZPReEiSPZXtmlLO7ZFmFS JYJGjLtiojL405RYEJeR/ldDqE0ButtcMfehNzO9j/cPDqyyAu9j67T29Bwq4y9htr EkPRmI5fNiCK3P2eB8u6m4+GZydnRLpdKIu0WGz/YGLmzPyrlmdiwF21nVRNMZsuYH H0ROEXZI3TvL6CeEmpVxgWDWxmV1iR9eoC5iBSgRBxX5gk4C/JZUSL+FMxSRHbeKWF yUQkx3ec+A4L/YzzRqZgWTc98JuZu2bIJW3ouaCjteIZ8ULmtaQYjrgqxij44J/U0i hPZddG4cr5M0g== X-Authentication-Warning: prime.gushi.org: Host [149.20.66.196] claimed to be smtpclient.apple Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.600.7\)) Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns From: "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" In-Reply-To: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:47:15 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <198956D1-6B93-4E35-AAC9-872AC146C538@gushi.org> References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.600.7) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (prime.gushi.org [149.20.68.142]); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 02:47:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqC1c5g4Xz41Tt X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:393507, ipnet:2620:137:6000::/44, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On Jun 25, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Steven Friedrich = wrote: >=20 > I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I = don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. >=20 > I issue: host slimline > Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >=20 > Here's the /etc/hosts: >=20 > # $FreeBSD$ > # > # Host Database > # > # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts = that > # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of = your > # machine. > # > # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may > # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution = order. > # > # > ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org > 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org > 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org > # > # Imaginary network. > #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname > #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend > # > # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for > # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: > # > # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 > # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 > # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 > # > # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need > # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own = network > # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or > # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or = AfriNIC.) > # > # local additions > 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet > 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router > 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra > 192.168.2.3 Brother laser > 192.168.2.4 AppleTV > 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY > 192.168.2.6 PS5 > 192.168.2.7 PS4 > 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline > 192.168.2.10 Pi4B > 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux > 192.168.2.12 iPhone > 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop >=20 > and /etc/resolv.conf > # Generated by resolvconf > nameserver 192.168.2.1 >=20 > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > options edns0 >=20 > and /etc/nsswitch.conf >=20 > # > # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file > # $FreeBSD$ > # > group: compat > group_compat: nis > hosts: files dns > netgroup: compat > networks: files > passwd: compat > passwd_compat: nis > shells: files > services: compat > services_compat: nis > protocols: files > rpc: files >=20 > Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? Because you also have to put it in /etc/hosts as its shortname, as the = two =E2=80=9Clocalhost=E2=80=9D examples above should have suggested. -Dan From nobody Mon Jun 26 03:36:58 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqD742Kz0z4jNFx for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from h1.out2.mxs.au (h1.out2.mxs.au [110.232.143.236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqD734zggz4P5H for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au (s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au [103.27.34.4]) by out2.mxs.au (Halon) with ESMTPS id b8f2be1c-13d2-11ee-b689-00163c1ebd60; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:06 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nimnet.asn.au; s=default; h=Message-ID:From:CC:To:Subject: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To: Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=l6KBwk0PxefSaS1p/RIWsVaFNZ7HZgbOVMtkwt7AlDM=; b=HoY5ZJfxm9tb44HVM9C2FgKseS GYpxAXfckN0wG88I3fssx8dKDm6583Py8sJbr0FpzQRbyOkW/ljQ6L1Abhd4/9ahKkwQ/NwbZirG3 fQy6Qk3zvbCG6ioLsEPy2Da3jhr245vLeEenbBZFuyHMOhS4mH9lV1kSVVFKBeeOkOLvVGU6iTiBC NYpzqOwIxjxfDSvp5FoljwovGxHg6KKmkTDEn2j2moLdkGcp7gctrXCMCH3eNUSBFEJWAHq0cN//B qqpwTvCHR8H14mtSS5Rd9OLihFO+Z7j1E67hxZ1E6HSTCrs2AcVCRUv0LOq2a2r8HJkfmUuDjpR6P bMbUvQbg==; Received: from [1.129.248.241] (port=60197 helo=Galaxy-J5-Pro) by s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qDd2H-003Z2W-2b; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:06 +1000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:36:58 +1000 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <198956D1-6B93-4E35-AAC9-872AC146C538@gushi.org> References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <198956D1-6B93-4E35-AAC9-872AC146C538@gushi.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns To: "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" ,Steven Friedrich CC: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List From: Ian Smith Message-ID: <8140CE7E-9AEF-450E-821C-86308F627A6F@nimnet.asn.au> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nimnet.asn.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au: authenticated_id: smithi@nimnet.asn.au X-Authenticated-Sender: s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au: smithi@nimnet.asn.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqD734zggz4P5H X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:45638, ipnet:110.232.143.0/24, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 26 June 2023 12:47:15 pm AEST, "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Steven Friedrich > wrote: > >=20 > > I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts=2E= =20 > I don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario=2E > >=20 > > I issue: host slimline > > Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > >=20 > > Here's the /etc/hosts: [=2E=2E=2E] > > ::1 localhost localhost=2EFriedrich=2Eorg > > 127=2E0=2E0=2E1 localhost localhost=2EFriedrich=2Eorg > > 127=2E0=2E1=2E1 Slimline=2EFriedrich=2Eorg [=2E=2E=2E] > > 192=2E168=2E2=2E9 Slimline=2EFriedrich=2Eorg Slimline > > Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? > Because you also have to put it in /etc/hosts as its shortname, as > the two =E2=80=9Clocalhost=E2=80=9D examples above should have suggeste= d=2E And from the second entry it would appear to be case-sensitive, though hos= ts(5) makes no such mention? 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On 25/06/2023 22:22, Tom Everett wrote:

No hangs since yesterday afternoon.=C2=A0 I'll email back if it happen= s again.=C2=A0

I'm on amd64.=C2=A0 I get:

---<= <BOOT>>---
= Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
= Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
= FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
=E2=80=A6

Thanks. Since you now get what's expected at boot time, my guess is that you previously had an incomplete update.

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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I tried=C2=A0[system=3D10]=C2=A0+=C2=A0devfs_system_rulese= t=3D"localrules",=C2=A0[system=3D10]=C2=A0+=C2=A0devfs_system_rul= eset=3D"system", and=C2=A0
[localrules=3D10]=C2=A0+=C2=A0devf= s_system_ruleset=3D"localrules", but no one works :-(
F= rom regular user, it always says:
%=C2=A0 =C2=A0env LIBUSB_DEBUG= =3D1 aft-mtp-cli
LIBUSB_FUNCTION: libusb_init complete
device not = found (filter =3D ''

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:46=E2=80=AFAM V= lad Markov <dvoich@optonline.net= > wrote:
= On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 19:47:47 +0200
Tomek CEDRO <tomek= @cedro.info> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 7:13=E2=80=AFPM Jin Guojun[VFF] wrote:
> > Thanks for help and LIBUSB_DEBUG=3D0 makes cli quiet.
> >
> > One slight issue is that the android-file-transfer has to be run = as root.=C2=A0
>
> That is up to USB file permissions in /dev.. you can set this up with<= br> > devfs, example below :-)
>
> Add your user to operator group:
>
> # pw groumod operator -m your_username
>
> Add this to /etc/devfs.rules:
>
> [system=3D10]
> add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator
>
> Then add this to /etc/rc.conf:
>
> devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules"
> devfs_enable=3D"YES"
>
> :-)
>
> --
This is close but:

devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules" should be devfs_system_rulese= t=3D"system"

It has to match what is in the brackets.

Next question:

How do I get thumbnails to show up in the app?

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Skuhra" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns Message-ID: References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.13 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.63)[-0.629]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqJ6r1Qmhz3jV0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 04:51:05PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I don't > want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. According to truss/ktrace the command host doesn't read /etc/nsswitch.conf and queries only DNS servers. See also host(1). > I issue: host slimline > Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Use 'getent hosts slimline' instead. -- Herbert From nobody Mon Jun 26 08:58:13 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqMFp5lKQz4hN3n for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Received: from mail2.paztec.nl (mail2.paztec.nl [IPv6:2001:1af8:4700:a116:1::42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail2.paztec.nl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqMFp36QGz4JtX for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:58:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter Received: from smtpclient.apple (gaspode [IPv6:2a02:a461:283f:4:0:0:0:22]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.paztec.nl (8.17.2/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 35Q8wNPm065601 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:58:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vps4.vanderzwan.org: Host gaspode [IPv6:2a02:a461:283f:4:0:0:0:22] claimed to be smtpclient.apple Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.600.7\)) Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns From: freebsd@vanderzwan.org In-Reply-To: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:58:13 +0200 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.600.7) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on vps4.vanderzwan.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqMFp36QGz4JtX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:60781, ipnet:2001:1af8::/32, country:NL] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi > On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:51, Steven Friedrich = wrote: >=20 > I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I = don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. >=20 > I issue: host slimline > Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >=20 Man page for host command starts with:=20 NAME host - DNS lookup utility So that means it specifically queries DNS, just like nslookup. To use the normal lookup methods configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf you = should use the getent command: NAME getent - get entries from administrative database SYNOPSIS getent database [key ...] So 'getent hosts slimline=E2=80=99 should give you the result you want. Cheers, Paul > Here's the /etc/hosts: >=20 > # $FreeBSD$ > # > # Host Database > # > # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts = that > # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of = your > # machine. > # > # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may > # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution = order. > # > # > ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org > 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org > 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org > # > # Imaginary network. > #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname > #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend > # > # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for > # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: > # > # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 > # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 > # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 > # > # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need > # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own = network > # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or > # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or = AfriNIC.) > # > # local additions > 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet > 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router > 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra > 192.168.2.3 Brother laser > 192.168.2.4 AppleTV > 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY > 192.168.2.6 PS5 > 192.168.2.7 PS4 > 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline > 192.168.2.10 Pi4B > 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux > 192.168.2.12 iPhone > 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop >=20 > and /etc/resolv.conf > # Generated by resolvconf > nameserver 192.168.2.1 >=20 > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > options edns0 >=20 > and /etc/nsswitch.conf >=20 > # > # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file > # $FreeBSD$ > # > group: compat > group_compat: nis > hosts: files dns > netgroup: compat > networks: files > passwd: compat > passwd_compat: nis > shells: files > services: compat > services_compat: nis > protocols: files > rpc: files >=20 > Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? > --=20 > FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 = GENERIC amd64 > SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed > /usr/ports/.git/HEAD > ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >=20 From nobody Mon Jun 26 09:21:14 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqMm74zcwz4jJ3b for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d5020000ceeb8a.1d1e75b8b46f38767a6cd0839e34f28d@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqMm66BF8z4TPd for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d5020000ceeb8a.1d1e75b8b46f38767a6cd0839e34f28d@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=e6uKS+sa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d5020000ceeb8a.1d1e75b8b46f38767a6cd0839e34f28d@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d5020000ceeb8a.1d1e75b8b46f38767a6cd0839e34f28d@email-od.com; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1687771287; x=1690363287; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=UbJWV4nWxNEW7MxdGrHQT/6woQen5ldDflhjVBkQwTQ=; b=e6uKS+saKscWwEWDABTKlWlLICr7BTLZTvut80+n8vAKgnERNW0qF9O5LZPAtKkBNhWAv4gj2Q1D5aI04KP1Ctz7GeuIe03CbjkiX0Bitya8mz3iYn+SR/Gfam3Fh6+R1sD9FEDzc95SYjNuV/PShXq6c2+2s2FawPir6+J81vw= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDUwMjAwMDBjZWViOGEucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 05:21:16 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 05:21:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1qDiPK-000MJr-JX for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:21:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:21:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns Message-Id: <20230626102114.5dfbf42560e24648338adcd2@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.64 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.943]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d5020000ceeb8a.1d1e75b8b46f38767a6cd0839e34f28d@email-od.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.191.2:received]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d5020000ceeb8a.1d1e75b8b46f38767a6cd0839e34f28d@email-od.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqMm66BF8z4TPd X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:37:15 +0200 "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > Use 'getent hosts slimline' instead. 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I have passed my GeForce 1030 (bottom of the line GPU for AI work it seems) but since it appears that no one can get tensorflow, pytorch or anything else that runs ANN's on a GPU to work on FreeBSD (I have tracked down to the fact nvidia never ported CUDA to FreeBSD)... the problem is sometimes during heavy work on the guest then the host slows down and if the the host is doing heavy work (especially resource intensive things like compiling lang/rust) that the host will kill the guest if it runs out of available memory+swap (speaking of that does wiring the memory at least prevent this?) -- Aryeh M. 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> > -S Wire guest memory > > > Anyway, OS does not have another choice than kill a process to free some = memory > when RAM+swap is fully used (assume kernel already scanned Inactive memor= y). > > As recommendation: > > Look at an another memory consumers like ZFS, another processes > Increase swap > Tune vm.overcommit sysctl. See tuning(7) for details. > > > So in short, there is no good way to run applications that fully use 10 G= B > memory on a systems with just 1 GB RAM + 1 GB swap. You should have > enough resources to do that. You completely mischaracterize the situation I want to reserve 16GB or 24GB for the VM and the other 8 are for the host (and the host alone).. I have already used the -S flag since it is required by passthru Also the memory is successfully reserved accoring to top(1) but yet it still runs out (i.e. it shows 19GB are wired). -- Aryeh M. 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The only thing I can assume is firefox is caching file:/// url's how do I turn this off. This firefox 114.0.2_1_2 (installed last night)... so how do I turn this off? -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org From nobody Mon Jun 26 12:20:49 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqRl94HxYz4kKYD for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xpetrl@beepc.ch) Received: from srv.fastssdserver.com (srv.fastssdserver.com [45.83.22.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqRl85dyrz43T3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xpetrl@beepc.ch) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=beepc.ch header.s=default header.b=jhRHgFe+; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of xpetrl@beepc.ch designates 45.83.22.82 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=xpetrl@beepc.ch; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beepc.ch; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From: References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=N2IAicwU2S78OIshJiJuDY40acrS0c8C+2ajcuLLuek=; b=jhRHgFe+aOKMqcYSzbSpbQgJfi fzX9x50WxX1hUgeTTLgKsZmwvsd62KNwZ+QJcUsAfZyWvMU2z9rwYn8Yl0J9xOUrfJ6l3x03RWysW CJRjMLW/S/uhopJfl5pOTHpMzFZmBNcEuof568Kgc/2tiuHBWqos9MTqcVgdliyrGk9X5ZLfNLxh8 r5IuSi8dCgttmtcjkNB3f3rLIn95P5A/CW2QlEytJ4hE4lJqG+ok3R8zvHYUVGI8yRUAPOL99ZRSJ 0SCUYqQ/MSC+y9PLBnUj/az7V01v1weXVYPgtvNIHmzzzCFsBTP6hEQFnRdmLnH1sZvhFO9ZFfOt7 1fhNS2dQ==; Received: from 85.245.43.185.wifx.net ([185.43.245.85]:35910 helo=[10.5.52.92]) by srv.fastssdserver.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qDlD9-00039H-2c for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:20:52 +0500 Message-ID: <0a723f18-6605-6897-1849-ecc644fbcbbe@beepc.ch> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:20:49 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Subject: Re: OT(?): Prevent firefox caching local files To: questions@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: "beepc.ch" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - srv.fastssdserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - beepc.ch X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: srv.fastssdserver.com: authenticated_id: xpetrl@beepc.ch X-Authenticated-Sender: srv.fastssdserver.com: xpetrl@beepc.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.33 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.955]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.80)[0.802]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.32)[0.319]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:45.83.22.82]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[beepc.ch:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[xpetrl@beepc.ch]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[beepc.ch]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[xpetrl@beepc.ch]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[beepc.ch:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35913, ipnet:45.83.22.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqRl85dyrz43T3 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 26.06.23 14:12, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have a jpg that is the generated output of a process I run and it > does very from run to run but when ever I try to load it in firefox I > get the cached version not the local generated version (i.e. > file:///.../.../foo.jpg) but when I view it in something like gnome > image viewer it is in fact updated! > > The only thing I can assume is firefox is caching file:/// url's how > do I turn this off. This firefox 114.0.2_1_2 (installed last > night)... so how do I turn this off? > A work around wold be to install FF plugin « Empty Cache Button » : "Cache clearing made easy. 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See tuning(7) for details. >> ... > You completely mischaracterize the situation I want to reserve 16GB or > 24GB for the VM and the other 8 are for the host (and the host > alone).. I have already used the -S flag since it is required by > passthru >=20 > Also the memory is successfully reserved accoring to top(1) but yet it > still runs out (i.e. it shows 19GB are wired). >=20 You can try with protect(1): protect =E2=80=93 protect processes from being killed when swap = space is exhausted --Apple-Mail=_B5C82297-31F2-4C2B-AAD4-9E27C2C3F604 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On 26 Jun = 2023, at 15:06, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> = wrote:

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at = 7:50=E2=80=AFAM Vitaliy Gusev <gusev.vitaliy@gmail.com> = wrote:
...
As recommendation:

Look at an = another memory consumers like ZFS, another processes
Increase = swap
Tune vm.overcommit sysctl. See tuning(7) for = details.
...
You = completely mischaracterize the situation I want to reserve 16GB = or
24GB for the VM and the = other 8 are for the host (and the host
alone).. I have already used the -S flag since it is = required by
passthru

Also the memory is successfully reserved = accoring to top(1) but yet it
still = runs out (i.e. it shows 19GB are wired).


You can = try with protect(1):

     protect =E2=80=93 = protect processes from being killed when swap space is

   =   = exhausted




= --Apple-Mail=_B5C82297-31F2-4C2B-AAD4-9E27C2C3F604-- From nobody Mon Jun 26 13:37:29 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqTRg5gZ4z4kkq1 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.200.34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqTRg1dbmz3mYQ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3E260BB0; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo09-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo09-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BrVI5h7aqfK6; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gargamel-2.ascot.khubla.lan (d198-166-24-90.abhsia.telus.net [198.166.24.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D22960AE4; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 13:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 13.2-p1 hanging To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <280960a2-6406-97bc-173b-0ddc7a2ce75a@khubla.com> <90c9f1e5-b1eb-3c54-2f37-fc35ae1570af@khubla.com> <48201e39-f3d1-488a-9d9a-7342ef91a54e@freebsd.org> From: Tom Everett Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:37:29 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.60 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <48201e39-f3d1-488a-9d9a-7342ef91a54e@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3E5C94ACE20B79774D9C58E3" Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqTRg1dbmz3mYQ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3E5C94ACE20B79774D9C58E3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That is possible.  Thanks! > Graham Perrin > June 25, 2023 at 9:51 PM > > On 25/06/2023 22:22, Tom Everett wrote: > > > Thanks. Since you now get what's expected at boot time, my guess is > that you previously had an incomplete update. > > Tom Everett > June 25, 2023 at 3:22 PM > No hangs since yesterday afternoon.  I'll email back if it happens again. > > I'm on amd64.  I get: > > ---<>--- > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >     The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > > > > > > Graham Perrin > June 25, 2023 at 1:16 PM > On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote: >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> I used freebsd-update to upgrade. >> >> >> root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >> 1302001 1302001 >> root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # > > > Thanks. Do you still get hangs? > > > Do you still get the following line when you boot? > > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > > > I get this, with 1302001: > > root@fuji:~ # head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > > >> >> >> >>> Graham Perrin >>> June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM >>> >>> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >>> >>> What's reported? >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote: >>> >>> That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1. >>> >>> When you updated, which guide did you follow? >>> >>> Tom Everett >>> June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM >>> Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, >>> perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice. Prior to that on >>> previous kernel versions, it had never hung. There is no console >>> output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and >>> stops responding to network traffic. >>> >>> The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help >>> the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights >>> reserved. >>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >>> FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 >>> FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 >>> (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git >>> llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) >>> VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 >>> CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz >>> K8-class CPU) >>>   Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 >>> Features=0x178bfbff >>> Features2=0x7ef8320b >>>   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >>>   AMD >>> Features2=0x75c237ff >>>   Structured Extended >>> Features=0x219c91a9 >>>   Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 >>>   XSAVE Features=0xf >>>   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID >>> EBX=0x108b657 >>>   SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 >>>   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >>> real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) >>> avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) >>> Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 >>> ACPI APIC Table: >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware >>> threads >>> >>> >>> Tom Everett >>> June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM >>> Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, >>> perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice. Prior to that on >>> previous kernel versions, it had never hung. There is no console >>> output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and >>> stops responding to network traffic. >>> >>> The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help >>> the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights >>> reserved. >>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >>> FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 >>> FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 >>> (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git >>> llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) >>> VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 >>> CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz >>> K8-class CPU) >>>   Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 >>> Features=0x178bfbff >>> Features2=0x7ef8320b >>>   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >>>   AMD >>> Features2=0x75c237ff >>>   Structured Extended >>> Features=0x219c91a9 >>>   Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 >>>   XSAVE Features=0xf >>>   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID >>> EBX=0x108b657 >>>   SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 >>>   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >>> real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) >>> avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) >>> Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 >>> ACPI APIC Table: >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware >>> threads >>> >>> >> > > Tom Everett > June 25, 2023 at 10:15 AM > Thanks for your reply. > > I used freebsd-update to upgrade. > > > root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU > 13.2-RELEASE-p1 > 13.2-RELEASE-p1 > 13.2-RELEASE-p1 > FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > 1302001 1302001 > root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # > > > > > Graham Perrin > June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM > > freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU > > What's reported? > > > On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote: > > That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1. > > When you updated, which guide did you follow? > -- Sent from Postbox --------------3E5C94ACE20B79774D9C58E3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That is possible.  Thanks!


June 25, 2023 at 9:51 PM

On 25/06/2023 22:22, Tom Everett wrote:


Thanks. Since you now get what's expected at boot time, my guess is that you previously had an incomplete update.

June 25, 2023 at 3:22 PM
No hangs since yesterday afternoon.  I'll email back if it happens again. 

I'm on amd64.  I get:

---<<BOOT>>---
Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)





June 25, 2023 at 1:16 PM
On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #


Thanks. Do you still get hangs?


Do you still get the following line when you boot?

FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64


I get this, with 1302001:

root@fuji:~ # head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today
Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
       The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)





June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads


June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads




June 25, 2023 at 10:15 AM
Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #




June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?


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This firefox 114.0.2_1_2 (installed last > night)... so how do I turn this off? you can try to open the developer tools in firefox (network tab) and check the box disable cache, as long as you have the developer tool open there should be no cache. But if that works with file:// you need to test. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. 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[75.221.217.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7-20020a92d847000000b003459d60aaeasm1270338ilq.45.2023.06.26.06.50.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 06:50:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Friedrich X-Google-Original-From: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:50:14 -0400 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns To: freebsd@vanderzwan.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqTkL5qZkz3v2h X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N BTW, this anomaly only happens on my Raspberry Pi 4B (debian) and FreeBSD. Works as historically worked on Linux Mint and KDE Neon. On 6/26/23 4:58 AM, freebsd@vanderzwan.org wrote: > Hi > >> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:51, Steven Friedrich wrote: >> >> I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. >> >> I issue: host slimline >> Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >> > > Man page for host command starts with: > NAME > host - DNS lookup utility > > So that means it specifically queries DNS, just like nslookup. > > To use the normal lookup methods configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf you should use the getent command: > > NAME > getent - get entries from administrative database > > SYNOPSIS > getent database [key ...] > > > So 'getent hosts slimline’ should give you the result you want. > > Cheers, > Paul > > > > >> Here's the /etc/hosts: >> >> # $FreeBSD$ >> # >> # Host Database >> # >> # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts that >> # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of your >> # machine. >> # >> # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may >> # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution order. >> # >> # >> ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >> 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org >> # >> # Imaginary network. >> #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname >> #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend >> # >> # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for >> # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: >> # >> # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 >> # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 >> # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 >> # >> # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need >> # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own network >> # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or >> # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or AfriNIC.) >> # >> # local additions >> 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet >> 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router >> 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra >> 192.168.2.3 Brother laser >> 192.168.2.4 AppleTV >> 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY >> 192.168.2.6 PS5 >> 192.168.2.7 PS4 >> 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline >> 192.168.2.10 Pi4B >> 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux >> 192.168.2.12 iPhone >> 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop >> >> and /etc/resolv.conf >> # Generated by resolvconf >> nameserver 192.168.2.1 >> >> nameserver 127.0.0.1 >> options edns0 >> >> and /etc/nsswitch.conf >> >> # >> # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file >> # $FreeBSD$ >> # >> group: compat >> group_compat: nis >> hosts: files dns >> netgroup: compat >> networks: files >> passwd: compat >> passwd_compat: nis >> shells: files >> services: compat >> services_compat: nis >> protocols: files >> rpc: files >> >> Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? >> -- >> FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >> SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed >> /usr/ports/.git/HEAD >> ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >> > -- FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed /usr/ports/.git/HEAD ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 From nobody Mon Jun 26 17:08:01 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqZ6x1JXTz4kGX2 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Received: from mail2.paztec.nl (mail2.paztec.nl [IPv6:2001:1af8:4700:a116:1::42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail2.paztec.nl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqZ6w62d7z3CFV for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter Received: from smtpclient.apple (2a02-a461-283f-4-dca0-57bc-4ef9-96f7.fixed6.kpn.net [IPv6:2a02:a461:283f:4:dca0:57bc:4ef9:96f7]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.paztec.nl (8.17.2/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 35QH8EaD068417 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:08:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vps4.vanderzwan.org: Host 2a02-a461-283f-4-dca0-57bc-4ef9-96f7.fixed6.kpn.net [IPv6:2a02:a461:283f:4:dca0:57bc:4ef9:96f7] claimed to be smtpclient.apple Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.600.7\)) Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns From: freebsd@vanderzwan.org In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:08:01 +0200 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.600.7) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on vps4.vanderzwan.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqZ6w62d7z3CFV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:60781, ipnet:2001:1af8::/32, country:NL] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi > On 26 Jun 2023, at 15:50, Steven Friedrich = wrote: >=20 > BTW, this anomaly only happens on my Raspberry Pi 4B (debian) and = FreeBSD. > Works as historically worked on Linux Mint and KDE Neon. >=20 I have been using getent in Solaris since the 90s, before Linux even = existed and history section of getent mentions: HISTORY A getent command appeared in NetBSD 3.0, and was imported into FreeBSD 7.0. It was based on the command of the same name in = Solaris and Linux. So I suspect Linux Mint and KDE Neon might be the anomalies ;-) Cheers=20 Paul > On 6/26/23 4:58 AM, freebsd@vanderzwan.org wrote: >> Hi >>> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:51, Steven Friedrich = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I = don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. >>>=20 >>> I issue: host slimline >>> Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >>>=20 >> Man page for host command starts with: >> NAME >> host - DNS lookup utility >> So that means it specifically queries DNS, just like nslookup. >> To use the normal lookup methods configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf you = should use the getent command: >> NAME >> getent - get entries from administrative database >> SYNOPSIS >> getent database [key ...] >> So 'getent hosts slimline=E2=80=99 should give you the result you = want. >> Cheers, >> Paul >>> Here's the /etc/hosts: >>>=20 >>> # $FreeBSD$ >>> # >>> # Host Database >>> # >>> # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts = that >>> # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of = your >>> # machine. >>> # >>> # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may >>> # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution = order. >>> # >>> # >>> ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >>> 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org >>> # >>> # Imaginary network. >>> #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname >>> #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend >>> # >>> # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for >>> # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: >>> # >>> # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 >>> # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 >>> # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 >>> # >>> # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need >>> # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own = network >>> # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or >>> # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or = AfriNIC.) >>> # >>> # local additions >>> 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet >>> 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router >>> 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra >>> 192.168.2.3 Brother laser >>> 192.168.2.4 AppleTV >>> 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY >>> 192.168.2.6 PS5 >>> 192.168.2.7 PS4 >>> 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline >>> 192.168.2.10 Pi4B >>> 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux >>> 192.168.2.12 iPhone >>> 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop >>>=20 >>> and /etc/resolv.conf >>> # Generated by resolvconf >>> nameserver 192.168.2.1 >>>=20 >>> nameserver 127.0.0.1 >>> options edns0 >>>=20 >>> and /etc/nsswitch.conf >>>=20 >>> # >>> # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file >>> # $FreeBSD$ >>> # >>> group: compat >>> group_compat: nis >>> hosts: files dns >>> netgroup: compat >>> networks: files >>> passwd: compat >>> passwd_compat: nis >>> shells: files >>> services: compat >>> services_compat: nis >>> protocols: files >>> rpc: files >>>=20 >>> Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? >>> --=20 >>> FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD = 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >>> SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed >>> /usr/ports/.git/HEAD >>> ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >>>=20 >=20 > --=20 > FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 = GENERIC amd64 > SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed > /usr/ports/.git/HEAD > ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >=20 From nobody Mon Jun 26 17:08:01 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqZ6x1JWkz4kGqX for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Received: from mail2.paztec.nl (mail2.paztec.nl [IPv6:2001:1af8:4700:a116:1::42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail2.paztec.nl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QqZ6w62dqz3CVf for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter Received: from smtpclient.apple (2a02-a461-283f-4-dca0-57bc-4ef9-96f7.fixed6.kpn.net [IPv6:2a02:a461:283f:4:dca0:57bc:4ef9:96f7]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.paztec.nl (8.17.2/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 35QH8EN1068416 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:08:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@vanderzwan.org) X-Authentication-Warning: vps4.vanderzwan.org: Host 2a02-a461-283f-4-dca0-57bc-4ef9-96f7.fixed6.kpn.net [IPv6:2a02:a461:283f:4:dca0:57bc:4ef9:96f7] claimed to be smtpclient.apple Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.600.7\)) Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns From: freebsd@vanderzwan.org In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:08:01 +0200 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.600.7) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on vps4.vanderzwan.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqZ6w62dqz3CVf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:60781, ipnet:2001:1af8::/32, country:NL] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi > On 26 Jun 2023, at 15:50, Steven Friedrich = wrote: >=20 > BTW, this anomaly only happens on my Raspberry Pi 4B (debian) and = FreeBSD. > Works as historically worked on Linux Mint and KDE Neon. >=20 I have been using getent in Solaris since the 90s, before Linux even = existed and history section of getent mentions: HISTORY A getent command appeared in NetBSD 3.0, and was imported into FreeBSD 7.0. It was based on the command of the same name in = Solaris and Linux. So I suspect Linux Mint and KDE Neon might be the anomalies ;-) Cheers=20 Paul > On 6/26/23 4:58 AM, freebsd@vanderzwan.org wrote: >> Hi >>> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:51, Steven Friedrich = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I = don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. >>>=20 >>> I issue: host slimline >>> Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >>>=20 >> Man page for host command starts with: >> NAME >> host - DNS lookup utility >> So that means it specifically queries DNS, just like nslookup. >> To use the normal lookup methods configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf you = should use the getent command: >> NAME >> getent - get entries from administrative database >> SYNOPSIS >> getent database [key ...] >> So 'getent hosts slimline=E2=80=99 should give you the result you = want. >> Cheers, >> Paul >>> Here's the /etc/hosts: >>>=20 >>> # $FreeBSD$ >>> # >>> # Host Database >>> # >>> # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts = that >>> # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of = your >>> # machine. >>> # >>> # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may >>> # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution = order. >>> # >>> # >>> ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >>> 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org >>> # >>> # Imaginary network. >>> #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname >>> #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend >>> # >>> # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for >>> # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: >>> # >>> # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 >>> # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 >>> # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 >>> # >>> # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need >>> # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own = network >>> # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or >>> # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or = AfriNIC.) >>> # >>> # local additions >>> 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet >>> 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router >>> 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra >>> 192.168.2.3 Brother laser >>> 192.168.2.4 AppleTV >>> 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY >>> 192.168.2.6 PS5 >>> 192.168.2.7 PS4 >>> 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline >>> 192.168.2.10 Pi4B >>> 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux >>> 192.168.2.12 iPhone >>> 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop >>>=20 >>> and /etc/resolv.conf >>> # Generated by resolvconf >>> nameserver 192.168.2.1 >>>=20 >>> nameserver 127.0.0.1 >>> options edns0 >>>=20 >>> and /etc/nsswitch.conf >>>=20 >>> # >>> # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file >>> # $FreeBSD$ >>> # >>> group: compat >>> group_compat: nis >>> hosts: files dns >>> netgroup: compat >>> networks: files >>> passwd: compat >>> passwd_compat: nis >>> shells: files >>> services: compat >>> services_compat: nis >>> protocols: files >>> rpc: files >>>=20 >>> Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? >>> --=20 >>> FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD = 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >>> SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed >>> /usr/ports/.git/HEAD >>> ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >>>=20 >=20 > --=20 > FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 = GENERIC amd64 > SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed > /usr/ports/.git/HEAD > ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >=20 From nobody Mon Jun 26 18:35:06 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qqc324rx3z4k5qb for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlouisville@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oo1-xc2f.google.com (mail-oo1-xc2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qqc3212Klz46gy for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlouisville@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-oo1-xc2f.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-56368c40e8eso381223eaf.0 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:35:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1687804509; x=1690396509; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:content-language:references :cc:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9uQWOlZyPrzHyfi43ZrRUeQ5pdWSYvQDFr2qXguYQfs=; b=RBVk1mB50XTZXT1CezIB3NclTaTosUSuU6KldUc88k91o6viqQeUOKPjtvgrrV3jxm R/64K/agY7Y98tykDgrrqZ2IaZjA8brro7/PakYCtaHIQHQn4FfvKW7S8UBpOZLgQpdE DEIGq3bCVJtn4T8NnECEXBmNHOOJ5ZtyWeVjs5nwDH6umI0Y8mFYsyr3P8ciHqRvt9uM IzY75fLkoEl1yHn0V9/6S61jeCdGHWM7VQc58NySrpG4M2fz+7kp/ckhzF7eT0vlMbD4 liCjke4fVrbEodsgYv3hNF/Yr702l99DpEsXEKYZt6TXEtR7Jtzvniil6JptlarZPtps lzKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1687804509; x=1690396509; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:content-language:references :cc:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9uQWOlZyPrzHyfi43ZrRUeQ5pdWSYvQDFr2qXguYQfs=; b=HMWUcndjKjoiQJroJnlvVp8x1EPdEQmbOcsJK1yz7nXQQnfV5sUtCReTh4M2nsU5Yy VxAQrxc5AHUdHwbqUjpHwKxOcjVBqp9QW0bA4teuRRQG9Ux47FFIAy8Bd49BdrggrfQB RZlw2mLWnYWx5rtQel+tF948n4oacveKmQIEbzWxhGtmYUoMYreyII8WDO+TuEQsCI8O HHOt32ASj6oEzgkHVf6bfofK6u848IYhHtmorsv8tDS41Dmsb6JBRgxeYExoR7q/ZAJW ng8oroNoWK5mjjHMES8I039KB3rEi87o+O69JwoN0jX8fdNSdH5rbs1+aGXpkt6QipnW BydA== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDzKeZdahLBpJwRrXqBB50u2r3Q6E0KtcyKogR0gz+OMPrhorRaK mWUNLhsI1vw22ZlDP5dB7rJT47hVt4m2ew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7iYD1AX8zmi8qrajCBIjJ7Bsdf8LPndYA6p51Wjbn4ZzxjwlpGYgEoEw1kBWS+AXN1vB9Hcg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6358:5197:b0:132:fe11:698a with SMTP id 23-20020a056358519700b00132fe11698amr3717640rwk.15.1687804508816; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.15] (34.sub-75-221-217.myvzw.com. [75.221.217.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a21-20020ac844b5000000b00400aa16bf38sm1291606qto.82.2023.06.26.11.35.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:35:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Friedrich X-Google-Original-From: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <6c840288-0446-122d-7d97-d6b02982e27c@Gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:35:06 -0400 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns To: freebsd@vanderzwan.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qqc3212Klz46gy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Correct, Linux still works. After all these years and my extensive Unix experience, I am abandoning FreeBSD. You have completely abandoned common sense. On 6/26/23 1:08 PM, freebsd@vanderzwan.org wrote: > > Hi > >> On 26 Jun 2023, at 15:50, Steven Friedrich wrote: >> >> BTW, this anomaly only happens on my Raspberry Pi 4B (debian) and FreeBSD. >> Works as historically worked on Linux Mint and KDE Neon. >> > > I have been using getent in Solaris since the 90s, before Linux even existed and history section of getent mentions: > > HISTORY > A getent command appeared in NetBSD 3.0, and was imported into > FreeBSD 7.0. It was based on the command of the same name in Solaris and > Linux. > > So I suspect Linux Mint and KDE Neon might be the anomalies ;-) > > Cheers > Paul > > > >> On 6/26/23 4:58 AM, freebsd@vanderzwan.org wrote: >>> Hi >>>> On 25 Jun 2023, at 22:51, Steven Friedrich wrote: >>>> >>>> I have been using /etc/hosts for decades to identify local hosts. I don't want the complexity of dns for this simple scenario. >>>> >>>> I issue: host slimline >>>> Host slimline not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) >>>> >>> Man page for host command starts with: >>> NAME >>> host - DNS lookup utility >>> So that means it specifically queries DNS, just like nslookup. >>> To use the normal lookup methods configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf you should use the getent command: >>> NAME >>> getent - get entries from administrative database >>> SYNOPSIS >>> getent database [key ...] >>> So 'getent hosts slimline’ should give you the result you want. >>> Cheers, >>> Paul >>>> Here's the /etc/hosts: >>>> >>>> # $FreeBSD$ >>>> # >>>> # Host Database >>>> # >>>> # This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts that >>>> # share this file. Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of your >>>> # machine. >>>> # >>>> # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may >>>> # not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution order. >>>> # >>>> # >>>> ::1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >>>> 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.Friedrich.org >>>> 127.0.1.1 Slimline.Friedrich.org >>>> # >>>> # Imaginary network. >>>> #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname >>>> #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend >>>> # >>>> # According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for >>>> # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: >>>> # >>>> # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 >>>> # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 >>>> # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 >>>> # >>>> # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need >>>> # real official assigned numbers. Do not try to invent your own network >>>> # numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or >>>> # from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or AfriNIC.) >>>> # >>>> # local additions >>>> 192.168.1.1 Verizon Internet >>>> 192.168.2.1 RAX80 Netgear router >>>> 192.168.2.2 NAS WDMyCloudEX2Ultra >>>> 192.168.2.3 Brother laser >>>> 192.168.2.4 AppleTV >>>> 192.168.2.5 HP-ENVY >>>> 192.168.2.6 PS5 >>>> 192.168.2.7 PS4 >>>> 192.168.2.9 Slimline.Friedrich.org Slimline >>>> 192.168.2.10 Pi4B >>>> 192.168.2.11 Dell Inspiron3668 MATE Cinnamon Neon Xfce PCLinux >>>> 192.168.2.12 iPhone >>>> 192.168.2.15 XPS XPS-9320 laptop >>>> >>>> and /etc/resolv.conf >>>> # Generated by resolvconf >>>> nameserver 192.168.2.1 >>>> >>>> nameserver 127.0.0.1 >>>> options edns0 >>>> >>>> and /etc/nsswitch.conf >>>> >>>> # >>>> # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file >>>> # $FreeBSD$ >>>> # >>>> group: compat >>>> group_compat: nis >>>> hosts: files dns >>>> netgroup: compat >>>> networks: files >>>> passwd: compat >>>> passwd_compat: nis >>>> shells: files >>>> services: compat >>>> services_compat: nis >>>> protocols: files >>>> rpc: files >>>> >>>> Why won't host lookup slimline in /etc/hosts? >>>> -- >>>> FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >>>> SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed >>>> /usr/ports/.git/HEAD >>>> ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >>>> >> >> -- >> FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >> SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed >> /usr/ports/.git/HEAD >> ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 >> > -- FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed /usr/ports/.git/HEAD ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 From nobody Mon Jun 26 18:40:54 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qqc9p01Bgz4k9Qb for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d5020000e66df4.564ed86218feab60c7cefbbb6dcaa9a3@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qqc9n0NJnz49gd for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d5020000e66df4.564ed86218feab60c7cefbbb6dcaa9a3@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=NioV7riY; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d5020000e66df4.564ed86218feab60c7cefbbb6dcaa9a3@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d5020000e66df4.564ed86218feab60c7cefbbb6dcaa9a3@email-od.com; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1687804861; x=1690396861; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=FvapxZTodRXeJQPf7rgoCW5I7YgGx80wnMibWmr1zVY=; b=NioV7riYI89sn/qr244Ndb+slcLFYZ6WEwd9GGCdIo2QsaQtAujgmWJ3dm5X8HrAFR2bE6Q1EC6FHJNI/1KKghpYq/ykoJkSYqd8fD+2PfDl6LFfOLoFjr0UVwHedLZ/9V1rXlMzZNQJ8LjcHbHAEEXG8273D1hS3Olqu2kx6Ug= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDUwMjAwMDBlNjZkZjQucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r1.h.in.socketlabs.com (r1.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.11]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:40:56 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:40:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1qDr8w-0007os-BR for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:40:54 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:40:54 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns Message-Id: <20230626194054.6a3119f50513650f249b2312@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <6c840288-0446-122d-7d97-d6b02982e27c@Gmail.com> References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> <6c840288-0446-122d-7d97-d6b02982e27c@Gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d5020000e66df4.564ed86218feab60c7cefbbb6dcaa9a3@email-od.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d5020000e66df4.564ed86218feab60c7cefbbb6dcaa9a3@email-od.com]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[185.202.17.215:server fail,142.0.176.198:server fail,142.0.180.11:server fail]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qqc9n0NJnz49gd X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:35:06 -0400 Steven Friedrich wrote: > Correct, Linux still works. After all these years and my extensive Unix > experience, I am abandoning FreeBSD. You have completely abandoned > common sense. The host command has been specified to only use DNS for as long as it has existed. 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Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:04:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:04:32 -0400 From: Vlad Markov To: jin guojun , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fusefs-jmtpfs-g20190420 cannot mount smartphone after FreeBSD 13 Message-ID: <20230626150432.777dc041@happy.dwarf7.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20230623114629.48cd8656@happy.dwarf7.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qqcj04Wy5z4MDB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31898, ipnet:65.20.63.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 22:24:05 -0700 jin guojun wrote: > I > tried [system=3D10] + devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules", [system=3D10] + > devfs_system_ruleset=3D"system", > and > [localrules=3D10] + devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules", but no one works= :-( > From regular user, it always says: > % env LIBUSB_DEBUG=3D1 aft-mtp-cli > LIBUSB_FUNCTION: libusb_init complete > device not found (filter =3D '' >=20 > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:46=E2=80=AFAM Vlad Markov wrote: >=20 > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 19:47:47 +0200 > > Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > =20 > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 7:13=E2=80=AFPM Jin Guojun[VFF] wrote: =20 > > > > Thanks for help and LIBUSB_DEBUG=3D0 makes cli quiet. > > > > > > > > One slight issue is that the android-file-transfer has to be run as= =20 > > root. =20 > > > > > > That is up to USB file permissions in /dev.. you can set this up with > > > devfs, example below :-) > > > > > > Add your user to operator group: > > > > > > # pw groumod operator -m your_username > > > > > > Add this to /etc/devfs.rules: > > > > > > [system=3D10] > > > add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator > > > > > > Then add this to /etc/rc.conf: > > > > > > devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules" > > > devfs_enable=3D"YES" > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > -- =20 > > This is close but: > > > > devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules" should be devfs_system_ruleset=3D"s= ystem" > > > > It has to match what is in the brackets. > > > > Next question: > > > > How do I get thumbnails to show up in the app? > > > > My phone requires me to open the phone. Provided that the usb is plugged in, it then has me select from a few choic= es. If I do not select "transfer files", then the phone is not found by android= _file_transfer. You don't say whether root can access the phone, can root access the phone? my setup: devfs.rules: [system=3D10] add path 'unlpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'ulpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'lpt*' mode 0660 group cups add path 'usb/X.Y.Z' mode 0660 group cups add path 'usb/*' mode 0660 group operator add path 'da*s*' mode 0660 group operator rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset=3D"system" devfs_enable=3D"YES" Perhaps the user is not part of the operator group? --=20 I dream of a better tomorrow, where chickens can cross the road and not be = questioned about their motives.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 Ralph Waldo Emerson From nobody Tue Jun 27 01:38:26 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqnRh70XBz4kDY1 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QqnRg4bj0z3PdB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=ilk.org (policy=none) Received: from lowell-Ubuntu.lan (lowell-Ubuntu.lan [172.30.250.95]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8523821409 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 21:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-Ubuntu.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3DB981080107; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 21:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> <6c840288-0446-122d-7d97-d6b02982e27c@Gmail.com> <20230626194054.6a3119f50513650f249b2312@sohara.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 21:38:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20230626194054.6a3119f50513650f249b2312@sohara.org> (Steve O'Hara-Smith's message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:40:54 +0100") Message-ID: <44y1k5n0q5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[ilk.org : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QqnRg4bj0z3PdB X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Steve O'Hara-Smith writes: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:35:06 -0400 > Steven Friedrich wrote: > >> Correct, Linux still works. After all these years and my extensive Unix >> experience, I am abandoning FreeBSD. You have completely abandoned >> common sense. > > The host command has been specified to only use DNS for as long as > it has existed. If there's an implementation of host that reads the hosts > file then it is that implementation which is anomalous not the FreeBSD one. And it's documented to be a DNS lookup utility on my (Ubuntu) Linux system also. But that version also first gives a result from /etc/hosts, in the form: theserver has address 172.30.250.1 It looks like the Ubuntu host(1) program comes from ISC, just like the one in the bind-tools package on FreeBSD, but it's been modified to check /etc/hosts as well. I suspect that Linux distributions vary on this, although I'm too lazy to go around checking. I don't think this is necessarily a bad piece of functionality, but given that host(1) is specifically a DNS lookup tool, it should definitely indicate when it is giving results that don't come from doing a DNS lookup. As far as I know, "host" is not a POSIX standard command, so it can be anything its host (no pun intended) system wants it to be. However, all of the versions I can find (easily) either come from the ISC codebase or are trying to imitate ISC, so I think it's only reasonable to assume that its results reflect a DNS query. My take is that what the original poster expects isn't unreasonable, but people with that superficial an understanding of how things work probably shouldn't be editing /etc/hosts in the first place. Be well. 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[75.221.217.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l14-20020a02a88e000000b00423076f5442sm622684jam.2.2023.06.26.19.49.00 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Friedrich X-Google-Original-From: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <4f8bffcb-84d3-70fd-e42a-bf533daba6d6@Gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:48:58 -0400 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> <6c840288-0446-122d-7d97-d6b02982e27c@Gmail.com> <20230626194054.6a3119f50513650f249b2312@sohara.org> <44y1k5n0q5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44y1k5n0q5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.43 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.96)[0.960]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.71)[0.713]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.24)[-0.243]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20221208]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35:from]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qqq0v3lRgz4Dj2 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N I've been doing it since 1985. When were you born? Snarky is why people hate "gurus". When I was connecting to the Internet with a 2400 baud modem, I created my own local caching DNS. I don't want to do that now. I just want the host command to work as it did for twenty-odd years. As a couple posters suggested, I am now using getent ahosts. On 6/26/23 9:38 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > My take is that what the original poster expects isn't unreasonable, but > people with that superficial an understanding of how things work > probably shouldn't be editing /etc/hosts in the first place. > -- FreeBSD slimline.friedrich.org 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 SLIMLINE is GENERIC with unnecessary drivers removed /usr/ports/.git/HEAD ref: refs/heads/2023Q2 From nobody Tue Jun 27 18:14:10 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrCXP31XQz4jqyp for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw1-x112e.google.com (mail-yw1-x112e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrCXP2fKNz47X9 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jguojun@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x112e.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-573491c4deeso51342097b3.0 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:14:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1687889653; x=1690481653; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=n1geg5axxGr5HQfkQVoWu1rwCRO9S8+ylOIy5IJibos=; b=JXH2TikKl1fKrlXvOzMomHRz+jnKuo10L5t9uLpZRXQVAyzJB+Wo9bE0ZDAJTiKNWD 6gd2jTddxd85Ns0cddoWYLQeflHeThxRzLs+RckkN7JhpkYXu5QNwJeNZEkHPcAL8rS7 R4fNf4zDoLsk9ow2SnCHuChc7jubQYnUwvy5HXNocJGb4758LJPhtNk52UwF0cXbvwXW LyfUPwzWCZuOqVVAqKTZCEWohMls5CrdOmYmQfkLT3oFuMfalnDiEzFxErvYNWL17Ucl /HykjU5s5hCQXrPKXNwOlQMyd9yqIWiMNgiEseKQ42h1s5FcJO6dhxPXOmfA58dB5QEv Iasw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1687889653; x=1690481653; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=n1geg5axxGr5HQfkQVoWu1rwCRO9S8+ylOIy5IJibos=; b=aQNRw9idZKaMQ2KzEQ/M7lGAWW8NC4Uvl0SuUNTH02ALgckeZZ741jEH4Owwclbfyy 47Z5x7SoyJpiCYflpTiUeBSsDctw5RSC2pbdmzCEiddzU7aPp7+tFAZoTRZRU0yeImMz IOejLpMMLD/CwvKa8rXYHmRPWyAn2W3hXt80cwo3amO4HDbigpO+d50eb4Il87T1AwzU /8Cd1EKpmv372dSFiosx3CfgIisgQWJVZAd+et8Tb+0IGQkZQyGYqhk0zMHCS0Y6axqu BRCso8EDGCEio8WQeD9TZz+uHbNRTc0UpkPW/OTzAGEukSQ327HUlZOf7f5EQ5B3Oy/G PNXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDwIV7NfqYQuDipq6PpJbDD0p2T48pmB/jlM58OVWivlQDbKNrgv afP99wVw8N9piJ9KPlut9DqZVQKP/+// X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ6jli/c/TxDyGLjRSv0baLtsbMtfO9KgV3Ca9dRf5buSh+5RGANQg01IiJa8vIlLTfRgD2z4g== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:da46:0:b0:573:400f:959 with SMTP id c67-20020a0dda46000000b00573400f0959mr26524971ywe.27.1687889652712; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.220] (76-218-103-166.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [76.218.103.166]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x132-20020a81638a000000b00576beffe858sm1242156ywb.97.2023.06.27.11.14.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6d5f5716-f3e6-08f2-b0f7-14396b9687d2@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:14:10 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 Subject: Re: fusefs-jmtpfs-g20190420 cannot mount smartphone after FreeBSD 13 To: Vlad Markov , questions@freebsd.org References: <20230623114629.48cd8656@happy.dwarf7.net> <20230626150432.777dc041@happy.dwarf7.net> Content-Language: en-US From: "Jin Guojun[VFF]" In-Reply-To: <20230626150432.777dc041@happy.dwarf7.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrCXP2fKNz47X9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 6/26/23 12:04, Vlad Markov wrote: > You don't say whether root can access the phone, can root access the > phone? The original question is for how to avoid being root access, which you probably missed. Yes, root has no issue to access, but regular users cannot. From nobody Tue Jun 27 22:45:14 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrKZ70Dd8z4k2f8 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 22:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Received: from actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au (actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au [103.11.147.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrKZ42Rd7z43rj for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 22:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=telaman.net.au header.s=default header.b=vDv9b8CW; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@telaman.net.au designates 103.11.147.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@telaman.net.au; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telaman.net.au; s=default; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gW8hNFIAufzzTnl3Rk6LvL2/B/abFx5BVtR6NwLvkdc=; b=vDv9b8CWopvkZ2ony7iaTHwe7E Gdshpe1qnHHge4YuhxLimEdVjnuQGmciqUxFaTcES84FU1AJAztJxiG4pkpV68GvrMYvBTmxh7BJU QaX/Bb8PwNFy4qx1gNoGlg8WvURs2fp5IJDNSYVF0D1HsrbiOg9SC6tJPVs1hpdyrV5IMw7hDByoV ALwWJEFWv3s8j5HdpOC/IV81nya/Ch50sUSLd03fBRIBBNm8iOdeSBLLIsYOsyNIAoayMEvQYeY3H b9XRV9pfUOkTrJXgcTNeVmxu4rSIdAmuaPAeKjdtaGGxBsncoj4FISxV7kHAasZ5n3qQ+x4dwYPIC B24JgsCg==; Received: from 116-250-233-13.pool.activ8me.net.au ([116.250.233.13]:46075 helo=[192.168.20.2]) by actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qEHRY-0095Vv-1h for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:45:54 +1000 Message-ID: <132735c0a861896a9ba3e1fb93ae24f62a24be78.camel@telaman.net.au> Subject: Of interest ... 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From nobody Wed Jun 28 00:35:44 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrN151G1Nz4jtWQ for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 00:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Received: from actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au (actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au [103.11.147.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrN132rTjz3wSb for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 00:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=telaman.net.au header.s=default header.b=goyGqsxf; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@telaman.net.au designates 103.11.147.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@telaman.net.au; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telaman.net.au; s=default; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ChEsaP1rSLsbESJNB3fKKLQuctONWxZo+T0WXFyTQWU=; b=goyGqsxfHvU3OjwxvAX8rY1wFU wa6xhLnDFLz6Nwgjr5ra6avdk5el+SlV9fnEUeY9HKWFLIyECWU5xZh76yNfdn0l/JtZs8F/dVW0k 2Ksw9QnUcwBz9TgUEv08VOieJ/poAklDEmFZeXfWHbIn3jROuBDOBzfBrYlMlXSKD6s5yce/4pXii lcQ0XgHBCyHBTRAob3u+HDtoKDtvUAu51p3Xb5lcSHz94zuj6mV4Y/uRjnZsWjO73L1qG+jX96m9R MIvxlFWIhfRpcvLpYGxhjoZ+MwDN3xbeXkKCZ3F4nQR/Ml5GQfUPn4AJfUdTZEfJR9xBFO7+B5jnR /TssWSjQ==; Received: from 116-250-233-13.pool.activ8me.net.au ([116.250.233.13]:37189 helo=[192.168.20.2]) by actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qEJA8-00A768-2Y for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:36:01 +1000 Message-ID: <42f1b9dfe6fc98c815aa248d198ed9733070c999.camel@telaman.net.au> Subject: Markdown editors. From: David To: freebsd-questions Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 10:35:44 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - telaman.net.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: authenticated_id: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Authenticated-Sender: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.37 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.977]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.892]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[telaman.net.au:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.11.147.171]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[freebsd@telaman.net.au]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9290, ipnet:103.11.144.0/22, country:AU]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[telaman.net.au:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[telaman.net.au]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[freebsd@telaman.net.au] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrN132rTjz3wSb X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hullo all, I'm used to using apostrophe on Debian, but that doesn't appear to be available in the FreeBSD repositories, so I was wondering what users here recommend? Thanks for any time. Cheers! 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To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <132735c0a861896a9ba3e1fb93ae24f62a24be78.camel@telaman.net.au> Content-Language: en-US From: Yuri In-Reply-To: <132735c0a861896a9ba3e1fb93ae24f62a24be78.camel@telaman.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrPFQ0SNWz3CBm X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.40 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.25]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[aetern.org:s=fm2,messagingengine.com:s=fm2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19151, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[aetern.org:+,messagingengine.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; local_wl_from(0.00)[yuri@aetern.org] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_from X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a "user questions" list, not a "offtopic chat", and really not a "let's start yet another heated discussion" one. 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From: David To: Yuri , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 11:59:32 +1000 In-Reply-To: References: <132735c0a861896a9ba3e1fb93ae24f62a24be78.camel@telaman.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - telaman.net.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: authenticated_id: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Authenticated-Sender: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrPsv1nT6z3hPM X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9290, ipnet:103.11.144.0/22, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 03:31 +0200, Yuri wrote: > This is a "user questions" list, not a "offtopic chat", and really > not a > "let's start yet another heated discussion" one. I don't think you'll find your narrow opinion would be a prevailing one. I think many would be interested in the situation, and even interested in taking a look at the code, building on it, and perhaps even creating something for the repositories. Cheers! 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So it has no place on this list. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM David wro= te: > On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 03:31 +0200, Yuri wrote: > > This is a "user questions" list, not a "offtopic chat", and really > > not a > > "let's start yet another heated discussion" one. > > I don't think you'll find your narrow opinion would be a prevailing > one. > I think many would be interested in the situation, and even interested > in taking a look at the code, building on it, and perhaps even creating > something for the repositories. > Cheers! > > > --0000000000003cd43405ff270877 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I assume that a link with no explanation, no context, no i= ntroduction is just spam.

So it has no place on this lis= t.

Bill Dudley
This email i= s free of malware because I run Linux.

On Tue, J= un 27, 2023 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM David <freebsd@telaman.net.au> wrote:
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 03:31 +0200, Yuri wr= ote:
> This is a "user questions" list, not a "offtopic chat&q= uot;, and really
> not a
> "let's start yet another heated discussion" one.

I don't think you'll find your narrow opinion would be a prevailing=
one.
I think many would be interested in the situation, and even interested
in taking a look at the code, building on it, and perhaps even creating
something for the repositories.
Cheers!


--0000000000003cd43405ff270877-- From nobody Wed Jun 28 02:27:21 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrQTp6Vbjz4kkGV for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 02:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Received: from actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au (actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au [103.11.147.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrQTp4kmsz3wVm for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 02:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telaman.net.au; s=default; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6F2fqn1o5xoF49oMVVmrTk55typuxm9BVcSD4P7OeD0=; b=ICmUn2svx6/3X6op91yxufMAI0 Ymp6WBqwth1N3KDE4ZLvlTpUEn3xcqnbxELfMJWOxjx6xrp1Fno92mCRYNR4qcvu/f802AOL1qsRD Sz90eOu9SmaqJc4dKWxNLxZRLJ0dDuaiNOtuyA3nD6zfnzDdK8PlsonNzQTzxmcJIUSBITroAMi5E NXIEOJsKLcbf06oJm2wzmaS02wSrYOZ45nWHZ9vlFW8uhkkFx1JuOyuW/Y5X5Abossor5NXL0VUoC AAJ01fd5FvwhZ8npEZ5SUYgES7fWnRsUnMMpdQuNw0lm53z/pjMma7NLabxnMwuAcoBU5EZH0Zhbe g9nTG4JQ==; Received: from 116-250-233-13.pool.activ8me.net.au ([116.250.233.13]:40303 helo=[192.168.20.2]) by actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qEKuA-00B9Lk-0K; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:27:39 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Of interest ... From: David To: William Dudley Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:27:21 +1000 In-Reply-To: References: <132735c0a861896a9ba3e1fb93ae24f62a24be78.camel@telaman.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - telaman.net.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: authenticated_id: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Authenticated-Sender: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrQTp4kmsz3wVm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9290, ipnet:103.11.144.0/22, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 22:05 -0400, William Dudley wrote: > I assume that a link with no explanation, no context, no introduction > is just spam. Then don't read it. It's a free world. Myself, I don't believe HTML has a place on mailing lists, but that's just me. I don't impose my standards on others. Cheers! > So it has no place on this list. >=20 > Bill Dudley > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:00=E2=80=AFPM David > wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 03:31 +0200, Yuri wrote: > > > This is a "user questions" list, not a "offtopic chat", and > > > really > > > not a > > > "let's start yet another heated discussion" one. > >=20 > > I don't think you'll find your narrow opinion would be a prevailing > > one. > > I think many would be interested in the situation, and even > > interested > > in taking a look at the code, building on it, and perhaps even > > creating > > something for the repositories. > > Cheers! > >=20 > >=20 From nobody Wed Jun 28 03:02:52 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrRGr2T5Vz4kPf3 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pat@patmaddox.com) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrRGr0SRRz4H69 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pat@patmaddox.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4055F32004AE; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap41 ([10.202.2.91]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:03:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=patmaddox.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender :subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1687921393; x=1688007793; bh=bv el8dBdn/zpPCitXGJE7JBYT4SCjqnA/HenVJh9fs8=; b=jEv3mSwSJw2EryJMCc 4CGk8uNXBAvptNjBQ9skpUW7S3OV55vYyIwCyobEi/EGI2iVHTgyLWO9nTfjYlBh EVpjkrpEYx8mdlxk4tohFKUDtdyHzPZ6RAf3D5cZ2E5YKeHmdNXylyxkrQdT4jtF GMuxZ+4YSMQ7qMPiOLv1e/TPNqVgbE8f+T5jzWzCzcxjktE6+hmvMdVW0Xk6o67J Fe0jLCvd36Fgyzmd56NCX+kyiPTG4JzkQ5v0W1HQGaqSUuVlAKBl9jxwPwskc7F8 7ZUvrfcvQDuMUSJc4bIDtliMRzqO5rz7YtZ+nr/Y+Bpr6RUyI2K5wGkFjdMePb6V 7Leg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1687921393; x=1688007793; bh=bvel8dBdn/zpP CitXGJE7JBYT4SCjqnA/HenVJh9fs8=; b=IWPNNgb/nO2gqRKgLA+svfYHqHDeM a5w0r3ijXHxKNOczPC0URklPikMsqL7++2NpXt8UtXJrIKAUNkhuZBxUL093yLbb Ed3GInYqLuFNmbZZMizL+PmT+EXjJPYkbSneFhq+8Bf5sfQ5S+bVsEcyvCylaBIP AmX55bry+7To5b8bFoKN/hs/rdJBIx+1rmwDTkUmLvF761PrLUDr/yhXm+Ehyewc qkT9o6g9aZaxxpSn96vodtscMhn9PwOApf9ETdxn+3hM11bOrSFIz9gFGaJERRYK yWdSva+dCzSKQWffIq1ZKqp1rBhuWNpOixHFavr48JFmkYsBjj//uyHWg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedrtddugdeiiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsehttdertderredtnecuhfhrohhmpedfrfgrthcu ofgrugguohigfdcuoehprghtsehprghtmhgrugguohigrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpeehueetudekveeljefghfduleekvdfhieeljeevhfekiefhgedtleelgfekhfel ueenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehprg htsehprghtmhgrugguohigrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i8b6c40f9:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5902D234007B; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:03:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.9.0-alpha0-499-gf27bbf33e2-fm-20230619.001-gf27bbf33 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <68051de5-8cbb-46ba-8207-1eb859d3dc1b@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42f1b9dfe6fc98c815aa248d198ed9733070c999.camel@telaman.net.au> References: <42f1b9dfe6fc98c815aa248d198ed9733070c999.camel@telaman.net.au> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 20:02:52 -0700 From: "Pat Maddox" To: David , "User Questions" Subject: Re: Markdown editors. Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrRGr0SRRz4H69 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29838, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 5:35 PM, David wrote: > Hullo all, > > I'm used to using apostrophe on Debian, but that doesn't appear to be > available in the FreeBSD repositories, so I was wondering what users > here recommend? > Thanks for any time. > Cheers! I use emacs with markdown-mode.el Pat From nobody Wed Jun 28 03:07:32 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrRMy0rpwz4kT0W for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Received: from actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au (actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au [103.11.147.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrRMx6GRLz4K7b for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@telaman.net.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telaman.net.au; s=default; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tThIOQMGxnkeobDyTxNwA0dg+9v2YJI1bX/sBS+dbs0=; b=HsYGDrUNzKHUrxjHw2nxmoYg8I CZ6GGyWMM4dEADd+6l7Qj7zDTpdZ0nAvlXV/K5zNZxVOms15wQzIypJFc2usFak98Exi5N5TNOLaU N36ovyOkmn5CYAUHwQD+PlTpSK3ykxpjJD33v7f26onjWsWFTCre+corL3iDAMzYwInAPD0dOqU/Y gLxMec2vbEUhMLxEvEHjZAgK4vd7pAmZAOClnSUqV8gbpxTSr3b28W54lBvjV6CnIpXfL/4FZQyEN UHx2dx41LMj7YvN7e24QmLkvmmIjDaatB5DnEMliqXCLIhMPpfMvkcSDS4OHvdORWWnSVTqGAlxdX LpJYoryA==; Received: from 116-250-233-13.pool.activ8me.net.au ([116.250.233.13]:62690 helo=[192.168.20.2]) by actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1qELWr-00BWrc-3D; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:07:38 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Markdown editors. From: David To: Pat Maddox , User Questions Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:07:32 +1000 In-Reply-To: <68051de5-8cbb-46ba-8207-1eb859d3dc1b@app.fastmail.com> References: <42f1b9dfe6fc98c815aa248d198ed9733070c999.camel@telaman.net.au> <68051de5-8cbb-46ba-8207-1eb859d3dc1b@app.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4 FreeBSD GNOME Team List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - telaman.net.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: authenticated_id: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Authenticated-Sender: actcsvr17.gohosting.com.au: freebsd@telaman.net.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrRMx6GRLz4K7b X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:9290, ipnet:103.11.144.0/22, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 20:02 -0700, Pat Maddox wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 5:35 PM, David wrote: > > Hullo all, > >=20 > > I'm used to using apostrophe on Debian, but that doesn't appear to > > be > > available in the FreeBSD repositories, so I was wondering what > > users > > here recommend? > > Thanks for any time. > > Cheers! >=20 > I use emacs with markdown-mode.el Thanks for that. I've since found Ghostwriter and Mindforger, which are good to a point, but I'd really like .pdf export, which neither seem to have, so far in investigations. Cheers! From nobody Wed Jun 28 03:19:10 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrRdT49s4z4kgtC for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrRdS3scJz3CVk for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 03:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=ilk.org (policy=none) Received: from lowell-Ubuntu.lan (unknown [172.30.250.33]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7A021459; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-Ubuntu.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CD8D71080108; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:19:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using /etc/hosts, not dns References: <846f37ec-c0b3-0b1a-6294-1da6a9260777@Gmail.com> <1ED24C4A-FABF-4096-970D-4017616FC124@vanderzwan.org> <6c840288-0446-122d-7d97-d6b02982e27c@Gmail.com> <20230626194054.6a3119f50513650f249b2312@sohara.org> <44y1k5n0q5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <4f8bffcb-84d3-70fd-e42a-bf533daba6d6@Gmail.com> CC: Steven Friedrich Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:19:10 -0400 Message-ID: <44edlwmfyp.fsf@Be-Well.Ilk.Org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.60 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org,Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[ilk.org : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org,Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrRdS3scJz3CVk X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Steven Friedrich writes: > I've been doing it since 1985. Well, yes, of course we edited hosts.txt in 1985. At the time that was the *sole* directory of hosts and their addresses; the first implementation of the DNS hadn't been released yet. But we didn't use the "host" command to look up hostnames, because it wouldn't be invented until years and years later. > I just want the host command to work as it did for twenty-odd years. >From a quick look around, Unix-ish machines where "host" returns information from /etc/hosts are doing it by running a local resolver, even if just a small one. > When I was connecting to the Internet with a 2400 baud modem, I > created my own local caching DNS. I don't want to do that now. Fair enough, but then "host" on other types of machines (including Linux distributions and, apparently, Apple Macs) generally won't give you results from /etc/hosts either. Like I said before, I wouldn't be against having host(1) return some information that it didn't get from a DNS query. But it should mark that as such, because "host" is, quite specifially and intentionally, a DNS lookup tool. > As a couple posters suggested, I am now using getent ahosts. Seems reasonable. As another alternative, I tend to rely on what I consider the ultimate lazy approach: just pinging the hostname. What people are actually looking for most of the time is just knowing that they can reach the named host. Be well. From nobody Wed Jun 28 04:24:05 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrT4K6H0Kz4kRb8 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 04:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from little.analyst892@aceecat.org) Received: from beesty.loosely.org (beesty.loosely.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrT4J4rgzz3y1K for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 04:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from little.analyst892@aceecat.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=aceecat.org header.s=rsa header.b=AbLsQPz9; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of little.analyst892@aceecat.org designates 2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=little.analyst892@aceecat.org; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aceecat.org ; s=rsa; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UotRnpAqiZocEonEYxZPwOqkM4iYCAQv4v5eBYQaEno=; b=AbLsQPz9Vw5+0xt8828CLPBPSg uVVQa6a6jRWNm+v87S9d83iXORGZ8N2rlHsnGhHr5Pm9+3dOQhQkcw8GltXQcL9msMZ+8H+3D81Sp zl5GrvH01wVCwuLvboaoiD69GyLOSna2ouvfUddTErFF8rsAz4uoJDuTnkiGJd/RQ2DZ7ppvzHDS/ EzDGMkJWl+9/Y4kskq3BFlExr7vtjT+gMgQiXtvglXQW42KYeY5MJ58jueiQVgxxNmsCHS/nJFgfK qRs8mB0nKqGW4OTdXWcCDM7X01m6WxTvnqOlYdWEwqAZTTHjchLBLTKhMI8W9MqfxPHX9/Krp8p2l MgEEn5hA==; Received: from [::1] (helo=beesty ident=itz) by beesty.loosely.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96-10-042a28abf) (envelope-from ) id 1qEMit-00007r-1i for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:24:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:24:05 -0700 From: little.analyst892@aceecat.org To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT(?): Prevent firefox caching local files Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.995]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[aceecat.org:s=rsa]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:63949, ipnet:2600:3c01::/32, country:SG]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[aceecat.org:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[aceecat.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrT4J4rgzz3y1K X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 08:12:35AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have a jpg that is the generated output of a process I run and it > does very from run to run but when ever I try to load it in firefox > I get the cached version not the local generated version (i.e. > file:///.../.../foo.jpg) but when I view it in something like gnome > image viewer it is in fact updated! > The only thing I can assume is firefox is caching file:/// url's how > do I turn this off. This firefox 114.0.2_1_2 (installed last > night)... so how do I turn this off? Is the mtime of the file changing (rising, one hopes) when it gets modified? If yes, this looks like a bug. I'm currently too ill to go searching for it, but I may later. -- Ian From nobody Wed Jun 28 07:40:50 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrYRD6dKlz4kGXR for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrYRC5BK5z41LW for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=KSxnwWyY; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews01-sea.riseup.net (fews01-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrYR93jzzz9sws for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:40:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1687938053; bh=iluxMhQuhh7XO0Dm2fR//1cMdX3sZBzcTUzTk/G1ymM=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=KSxnwWyYqvv4KQLkd6Ta0tYbN2s2KYOsgKJCmJPNMgYCVTTk+2iyGs2iQhhAX6nrj XYoSt6k0b2QbXnYAEdzYZegT9ZTfauEUlASuXNEIjQUQbPWvYH+uzj8qKQsPYaE8Nq pe2wh4zspR2pu7EHXwy3bRi1w+Yp8KL64xMKgm0k= X-Riseup-User-ID: 8F5D6A46E36C2828EE548B795808D7ED9B3E38E2FE2E5E617DDCD2BC3D1952E8 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews01-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4QrYR86L7XzJq9Y for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8055b22a6a3d592c2c26b0515cd603b2f2514d66.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Markdown editors. From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:40:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <42f1b9dfe6fc98c815aa248d198ed9733070c999.camel@telaman.net.au> <68051de5-8cbb-46ba-8207-1eb859d3dc1b@app.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.95 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.980]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.867]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QrYRC5BK5z41LW X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:07 +1000, David wrote: > but I'd really like .pdf export, which neither seem to have Hi, Markdownify might run on FreeBSD. https://markdownify.js.org/ I've got the following installed on Arch Linux from it's user repository, but Markdownify isn't maintained anymore by this repository. It's installed, while I don't use it. electron-markdownify 1.4.1 electron7-bin 7.3.3 However, electron7 seems to be running on FreeBSD. https://www.freshports.org/devel/electron7 Markdownify supports PDF export, but it also supports executing arbitrary code remotely on any client attempting to view a malicious markdown file. https://fluidattacks.com/advisories/adams/ It's not a recommendation, just an information. Your own markdown files are probably not malicious. I don't know if this is useful information. Regards, Ralf From nobody Wed Jun 28 17:21:06 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QrpJh2rRFz4jqtZ for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 87f918bc367b9c42361ed314d25d7d77@ludikovsky.name) Received: from ludikovsky.name (ludikovsky.name [IPv6:2a03:f80:ed15:158:255:212:178:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QrpJg4yY3z3nS6 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 87f918bc367b9c42361ed314d25d7d77@ludikovsky.name) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 87f918bc367b9c42361ed314d25d7d77@ludikovsky.name designates 2a03:f80:ed15:158:255:212:178:1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=87f918bc367b9c42361ed314d25d7d77@ludikovsky.name; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ludikovsky.name Received: from [10.9.8.123] (unknown [185.50.232.30]) by ludikovsky.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D3D34279 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5a6c4583-ae4b-4dc8-c50b-ef5afb0d6c62@ludikovsky.name> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:21:06 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Of interest ... 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Works fine. qownnotes may also be worth a look Dave From nobody Fri Jun 30 06:47:43 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qsm986gtgz4kTV4 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oo1-xc33.google.com (mail-oo1-xc33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qsm974wBMz3GGg for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plmahan@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b=C9UuJtrQ; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of plmahan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::c33 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=plmahan@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-oo1-xc33.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-5636ab8240cso859590eaf.3 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:47:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1688107674; x=1690699674; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=L4rz0Z1H2YfSsZjRO7hXfHMRWbyNaZIEpFp+y6e+nWc=; b=C9UuJtrQSYui7c4nUa7UzT4wgrkomsVM6usKjXrzaz0oIDM+/kncIAxpVJbBJZMcX7 6dqsQ6SHBZSn/Ah3IerMZoc7ZIllZUlIgutvDa/zqYHQ6AKiK0HRPm58b/tdwElLp6oM zhCX1ey/T91FZ1CJUuHFYBXemOL8EHp+GVU9fJlFezuXIu3G7oyJ/ksXKeWE3ZfaWQi/ RYeHhO5kY/ydUjLzs1e/QtOHOVfLMvhYxE6n6nLSMIA8yXdMDNbIKdSKq4bVzcYp2MV/ KTC+UGcBaLGAQoSvMJAJkfxnStYyoq64fV35G+OY/CCh9KQpgTgVLMvYPBazlrSyndpR 1Gjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1688107674; x=1690699674; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=L4rz0Z1H2YfSsZjRO7hXfHMRWbyNaZIEpFp+y6e+nWc=; b=hiPnPl1ZlUDvKPzJGZril3t+ZDpYtLncQBP+AYwicWtIp+NFE4mkMI/IhMZTEIOKoO nbFlOxuROuU86Jv183j+IUto9JxijFGwi92ARaqTXcKqRyAnn8nbhq+SJQHqvVN9twvo OOB3IXgio/3WMLJCRawybfVActurT2WiMgaRWt+cqPVY+Y0htpuktWordTemYLdZKDTC KydxSX64RIQdNw0aeNpvDrH6czf2bz7wxW0PF3FAxku7FnO4L+q6XEeFzOvloX5lVjmC a+jfAsxC8jj0ozeK1uiVP5hvz5R52TNS9heIqd5jAJXQDYBPslV1yplljz8RuQFyDa6f TK6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDznv9M6yXTeRRZDC4imesVFiysTJgmcZTxYocNQyjh/lfhzhW+G kT4YGR1IFKXbUFl4myMs+xUoVm4GCDN6ybeHfUpRYrbn4mo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ42tFNmGFWosb6Im4hzdyxFgAIcRmo9vJBVHXFc/H9b+noi7JRdUeertcFEXMPyOC3VN4Fllz7lub7cfVcSN0M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:b3b:b0:3a1:de61:d414 with SMTP id t27-20020a0568080b3b00b003a1de61d414mr1449682oij.51.1688107674332; Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:47:54 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Mahan Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 23:47:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Cannot install package dcc-dccd To: User Questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000045778b05ff533293" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.83 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.965]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.83)[0.832]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20221208]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.03)[0.031]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::c33:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qsm974wBMz3GGg X-Spamd-Bar: / X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000045778b05ff533293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I am puzzled. I need to install dcc-dccd in order to get dccifd for postfix. I had this installed on 11.x, but I am setting up a new system with 13.2. I can find it via the search function on the ports page, but when I attempt to install it, I am told it does not exist - root@ns:/mnt/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg install dcc-dccd Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date. pkg: No packages available to install matching 'dcc-dccd' have been found in the repositories Obviously I am not holding my mouth right, or typing with the proper hand... Pointers are welcomed. Thanks, Patrick --00000000000045778b05ff533293 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am puzzled.=C2=A0 I need to install dcc-dccd in order to= get dccifd for postfix.=C2=A0 I had this installed on 11.x, but I am setti= ng up a new system with 13.2.

I can find it via the sear= ch function on the ports page, but when I attempt to install it, I am told = it does not exist -

root@ns:/mnt/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg inst= all dcc-dccd

Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue...<= /p>

FreeBSD repository is up to date.

All repositories are up to date.

pkg: No packages available to install matching &= #39;dcc-dccd' have been found in the repositories

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Obviously I am not holding my mouth right, or typing with th= e proper hand...

Pointers are welcomed.
=
Thanks,

Patrick
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:47=E2=80=AF= AM Patrick Mahan <plmahan@gmail.com= > wrote:
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I am puzzled.=C2=A0 I need to install dcc-dccd in order to= get dccifd for postfix.=C2=A0 I had this installed on 11.x, but I am setti= ng up a new system with 13.2.

I can find it via the sear= ch function on the ports page, but when I attempt to install it, I am told = it does not exist -

root@ns:/mn= t/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg install dcc-dccd

Updating Fr= eeBSD repository catalogue...

FreeBSD rep= ository is up to date.

All reposit= ories are up to date.

pkg: No pac= kages available to install matching 'dcc-dccd' have been found in t= he repositories


Obviously I am not hold= ing my mouth right, or typing with the proper hand...

Because of the license, we can't create a pkg fo= r it. You will need to build it from source:

L= ICENSE_PERMS=3D =C2=A0no-pkg-sell no-dist-mirror no-pkg-mirror no-dist-sell=
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# pkg-mirror =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Free redistrib= ution of package is permitted

HTH
= =C2=A0

Pointers are welcomed.

Tha= nks,

Patrick
--000000000000882caf05ff538e58-- From nobody Fri Jun 30 07:14:38 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qsmmb0PPQz4km6T for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from white-wolf@blues-softwares.net) Received: from mx.franceserv.fr (mx.franceserv.fr [62.4.19.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QsmmY4Lcfz3R16 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:15:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from white-wolf@blues-softwares.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=blues-softwares.net header.s=fsh1 header.b=GsEH4h6L; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of white-wolf@blues-softwares.net designates 62.4.19.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=white-wolf@blues-softwares.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=blues-softwares.net Message-ID: <17f868b99bd5690a1715c330be2030cfd4a04f31.camel@blues-softwares.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=blues-softwares.net; s=fsh1; t=1688109307; bh=QwPNkibEFXEr5mLEoxpt8qnSoMDwk6tM1eotmUsVmaQ=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:From; b=GsEH4h6Ly1lrBml4fhQ4am+aAkLZBiE9EJlFOJuk1Fu5SYbHioCDPK/c0ZCvQn4Bn XbY2kGRxl4Ye//rnVV6JF3HLRf5x+kWm6FinOy9tO9Lvo8Rm6hfWhf2yBMAhA8II6Q /d/f7ns323/j0JiCsKd90JsAFXvGMq5igX0YGWz7LrPXDZo5RgS3/4TLelISHBrEtQ +4lHIdVu737v3glnSInpv8jaWJS/e9dGuCJS9uegUKasdDJR+LxOC4h5Y6LQUIotEl PZRG47GXkeUTwBVYT0wYazPW03+ciw+CWkfjXVUUUTzeH3wkPGYJvf+O+CdrRdeNIp 3yZ8ZC8N1i2sQ== Subject: change 3-Clause licensing to GPL-3 ? From: White Wolf To: User Questions Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:14:38 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-vqC4/uW63HOdQkxky3XR" User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4-0ubuntu1 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Abuse-Reports-To: abuse@franceserv.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.90 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: NO, score=0.90 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blues-softwares.net,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:franceserv.fr]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blues-softwares.net:s=fsh1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[62.4.19.99:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:62.4.0.0/19, country:FR]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blues-softwares.net:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QsmmY4Lcfz3R16 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --=-vqC4/uW63HOdQkxky3XR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello, i have an big project on Ubuntu, i don´t forget FreeBSD but i need to learn first and Ubuntu work out of box my project : https://github.com/jean-loups/Ubuntu-Minix-2.0 i would like know if it's that isn't problem to pass BSD 3-Clause to GPL-v3 or... stay on BSD 3-Clause but Apple isn´t longer i would like develop on https://beagleboard.org/ai-64 it's a learning project but FreeBSD isn´t enough oriented Desktop... no wifi selection, and so more else, it's for internet and server. please say me is possible to as of point of licensing. best regard, jean-loups. --=-vqC4/uW63HOdQkxky3XR Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello,
i have an= big project on Ubuntu, i don=C2=B4t forget FreeBSD but i need to learn fir= st and Ubuntu work out of box

i would like know if it's that i= sn't problem to pass BSD 3-Clause to GPL-v3 or...
stay on BSD 3-C= lause but Apple isn=C2=B4t longer

i would like dev= elop on https://beagleboard.= org/ai-64
it's a learning project but FreeBSD isn=C2=B4t enou= gh oriented Desktop...
no wifi selection, and so more else, it's = for internet and server.

please say me is possible= to as of point of licensing.
best regard,
jean-loups.<= /div>
--=-vqC4/uW63HOdQkxky3XR-- From nobody Fri Jun 30 07:32:11 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qsn8X26hnz4kvVm for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d502000193b521.314f713db5e50106da78f854df66f1cd@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qsn8W6MHbz4Gvf for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d502000193b521.314f713db5e50106da78f854df66f1cd@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1688110348; x=1690702348; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=6mR8QYFmMT/GcPjz4J15sgWMRY0+Cj5XxRHU+E1HKqM=; b=BSTXGqmLa9S/OcCnCzkw1BAvHtxHRTImjP55xAkeGYhiRiYBmn3sc3DhbuYyEyythREyZBtr5LTJlkcCq+EmUnNnvjLM3q0Hv4paOmg9wcqgIEsorwDhtQWHw2uBvDaX/ePBjFdOXT2Sd8quQnY2gMsMSrjq0E54RLSvJwsxFQk= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDUwMjAwMDE5M2I1MjEucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 30 Jun 2023 03:32:13 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 30 Jun 2023 03:32:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1qF8bz-000CgE-78; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 08:32:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 08:32:11 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: White Wolf Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: change 3-Clause licensing to GPL-3 ? Message-Id: <20230630083211.a86c77970ba14b283d7cee13@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <17f868b99bd5690a1715c330be2030cfd4a04f31.camel@blues-softwares.net> References: <17f868b99bd5690a1715c330be2030cfd4a04f31.camel@blues-softwares.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qsn8W6MHbz4Gvf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:14:38 +0200 White Wolf wrote: > please say me is possible to as of point of licensing. > best regard, Mixed license issues can be subtle, trust no advice but that of a competent lawyer of it really matters. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From nobody Fri Jun 30 07:41:09 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QsnLc3Bx1z4kxJH for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from white-wolf@blues-softwares.net) Received: from mx.franceserv.fr (mx.franceserv.fr [62.4.19.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QsnLb6XSgz4JxG for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from white-wolf@blues-softwares.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=blues-softwares.net header.s=fsh1 header.b=HYq4oMjY; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of white-wolf@blues-softwares.net designates 62.4.19.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=white-wolf@blues-softwares.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=blues-softwares.net Message-ID: <4174bac9bbd9c71d86f63ab5ecbcb86e2272c4df.camel@blues-softwares.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=blues-softwares.net; s=fsh1; t=1688110870; bh=XL5BC7w+iXsJnQli1CjaksTj99iTn+omntyjogT7DHo=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=HYq4oMjYsKlEFcp96V6Ui90uO6yWXpU4kexmvrPElEFo3f/3mstLUQS8osWfS900V +oYhX9dikbAZ7idB05CP+QJH5lZbu4I2Tr2pk9WoSULsGOvs/jo5/1WD+aLPtHXlpf NeTTcKBJP1LTYvL1l+xYnqX1cRfSxupYex0xKn7+qmCBkna0lZqk1O4ARTJlqFIEPL lGEswZAZTR/7pKQ/YhzJXC49o+yhkBGXMOzkF4P5fy08UCoD4xo0EPcdt7sUSzzlmo 01ybVelFOljbHYi1+Ov0D3s9JScrg2X10QgY/pNWyRAKQa8RCs2UJ4Dza2TXwWDHS6 K2llxpyNZui2g== Subject: Re: change 3-Clause licensing to GPL-3 ? 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i speak about minix 2.0 under 3-Clauses BSD l= icence

Le vendredi 30 juin= 2023 =C3=A0 08:32 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith a =C3=A9crit :
On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:14:38 +0200
White Wolf <white-wol= f@blues-softwares.net> wrote:

please say me is possible to as of point of licensing.
best regard,

 &n= bsp;      Mixed license issues can be subtle,= trust no advice but that of a
competent lawyer of it really = matters.

--=-DSVKqyzk+UkkiQjUBeHZ-- From nobody Fri Jun 30 07:44:21 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QsnQg01Fxz4kyHb for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from mailout.qeng-ho.org (mailout.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.244]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QsnQd3NkBz4LM1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [IPV6:2a02:8010:64c9:1::2] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:64c9:1::2]) by mailout.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E043D9A2; Fri, 30 Jun 2023 08:44:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20667d9f-3560-abe0-1367-a5be7519755b@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 07:44:21 +0000 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.12.0 Subject: Re: change 3-Clause licensing to GPL-3 ? Content-Language: en-GB To: White Wolf , User Questions References: <17f868b99bd5690a1715c330be2030cfd4a04f31.camel@blues-softwares.net> From: Arthur Chance In-Reply-To: <17f868b99bd5690a1715c330be2030cfd4a04f31.camel@blues-softwares.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QsnQd3NkBz4LM1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13037, ipnet:217.155.0.0/16, country:GB] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 30/06/2023 07:14, White Wolf wrote: > hello, > i have an big project on Ubuntu, i don´t forget FreeBSD but i need to > learn first and Ubuntu work out of box > my project : https://github.com/jean-loups/Ubuntu-Minix-2.0 > > > i would like know if it's that isn't problem to pass BSD 3-Clause to > GPL-v3 or... > stay on BSD 3-Clause but Apple isn´t longer > > i would like develop on https://beagleboard.org/ai-64 > > it's a learning project but FreeBSD isn´t enough oriented Desktop... > no wifi selection, and so more else, it's for internet and server. > > please say me is possible to as of point of licensing. If you mean "can you use BSD licensed code on a system that otherwise uses GPL licensing", yes you can. BSD code can be used almost everywhere (Microsoft used to use BSD licensed networking code in Windows). If you mean "can I change a BSD license to a GPL one", IANAL but generally only the copyright holder can change the license under which they release their code. 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I need to install dcc-dccd in order to get dccifd for >> postfix. I had this installed on 11.x, but I am setting up a new system >> with 13.2. >> >> I can find it via the search function on the ports page, but when I >> attempt to install it, I am told it does not exist - >> >> root@ns:/mnt/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg install dcc-dccd >> >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> >> FreeBSD repository is up to date. >> >> All repositories are up to date. >> >> pkg: No packages available to install matching 'dcc-dccd' have been foun= d >> in the repositories >> >> Obviously I am not holding my mouth right, or typing with the proper >> hand... >> > > Because of the license, we can't create a pkg for it. You will need to > build it from source: > > LICENSE_PERMS=3D no-pkg-sell no-dist-mirror no-pkg-mirror no-dist-sell > > ^^^^^^^^^ > And from bsd.licenses.mk: > > # pkg-mirror - Free redistribution of package is permitted > > Ah, did not notice that since I did not have a local ports tree (I prefer to rely on installable packages). I will pull a new ports tree and build it locally. Thanks, Patrick --0000000000006a4c7a05ff615bbd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:13=E2=80=AFAM = Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com> wrote:


On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:47=E2=80=AFAM Patrick Mahan= <plmahan@gmail.c= om> wrote:
I am puzzled.=C2=A0 I need to install dcc-dccd in order = to get dccifd for postfix.=C2=A0 I had this installed on 11.x, but I am set= ting up a new system with 13.2.

I can find it via the se= arch function on the ports page, but when I attempt to install it, I am tol= d it does not exist -

root@ns:/mn= t/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg install dcc-dccd

Updating Fr= eeBSD repository catalogue...

FreeBSD rep= ository is up to date.

All reposit= ories are up to date.

pkg: No pac= kages available to install matching 'dcc-dccd' have been found in t= he repositories


Obviously I am not hold= ing my mouth right, or typing with the proper hand...

Because of the license, we can't create a pkg fo= r it. You will need to build it from source:

L= ICENSE_PERMS=3D =C2=A0no-pkg-sell no-dist-mirror no-pkg-mirror no-dist-sell=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ^^^^^^^^^
And from bsd.licenses.mk:

# pkg-mirror =C2=A0 =C2= =A0- Free redistribution of package is permitted

=

Ah, did not notice that since I did = not have a local ports tree (I prefer to rely on installable packages).=C2= =A0 I will pull a new ports tree and build it locally.

=
Thanks,

Patrick

--0000000000006a4c7a05ff615bbd-- From nobody Sat Jul 1 01:36:56 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QtQql0RQlz4jqXx for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 08:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [IPv6:2620:137:6000:10::142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "prime.gushi.org", Issuer "RapidSSL Global TLS RSA4096 SHA256 2022 CA1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QtQqk2d9cz4Jyh for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 08:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (vpn-us.f.root-servers.org [149.20.8.9]) (authenticated bits=0) by prime.gushi.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 3611b1EP017067 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 30 Jun 2023 18:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 prime.gushi.org 3611b1EP017067 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gushi.org; s=prime2014; t=1688175423; bh=KD/HBXuzaYKaF0aH7us06Euhey2BeP/833g5yFSWKAo=; h=From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:References; z=From:=20"Dan=20Mahoney=20(Ports)"=20|Subject:= 20Re:=20Cannot=20install=20package=20dcc-dccd|Date:=20Fri,=2030=20 Jun=202023=2018:36:56=20-0700|In-Reply-To:=20|Cc:=20=3D?utf-8?Q? 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I need to install dcc-dccd in order to get dccifd for = postfix. I had this installed on 11.x, but I am setting up a new system = with 13.2. >>>=20 >>> I can find it via the search function on the ports page, but when I = attempt to install it, I am told it does not exist - >>>=20 >>> root@ns:/mnt/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg install dcc-dccd >>> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >>> FreeBSD repository is up to date. >>> All repositories are up to date. >>> pkg: No packages available to install matching 'dcc-dccd' have been = found in the repositories >>>=20 >>> Obviously I am not holding my mouth right, or typing with the proper = hand... >>=20 >> Because of the license, we can't create a pkg for it. You will need = to build it from source: >>=20 >> LICENSE_PERMS=3D no-pkg-sell no-dist-mirror no-pkg-mirror = no-dist-sell >> = ^^^^^^^^^ >> And from bsd.licenses.mk : >>=20 >> # pkg-mirror - Free redistribution of package is permitted >>=20 >=20 > Ah, did not notice that since I did not have a local ports tree (I = prefer to rely on installable packages). I will pull a new ports tree = and build it locally. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Patrick --Apple-Mail=_7318011B-96A6-435C-B1C6-01FFBA8A9F92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It would be = cool, I suppose, if ports like this could install a =E2=80=9Cstub=E2=80=9D= package that at least let you see the version in the ports tree, and = could tell you when a new version was available to = build.

-Dan

On Jun 30, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Patrick Mahan = <plmahan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 12:13=E2=80=AFAM = Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.co= m> wrote:


On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 8:47=E2=80=AFAM Patrick = Mahan <plmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
I am = puzzled.  I need to install dcc-dccd in order to get dccifd for = postfix.  I had this installed on 11.x, but I am setting up a new = system with 13.2.

I can find it via the search = function on the ports page, but when I attempt to install it, I am told = it does not exist -

root@ns:/mnt/oldsysusr/local/etc/rc.d # pkg = install dcc-dccd
Updating FreeBSD = repository catalogue...
FreeBSD = repository is up to date.
All repositories = are up to date.
pkg: No packages = available to install matching 'dcc-dccd' have been found in the = repositories

Obviously I am not = holding my mouth right, or typing with the proper = hand...

Because of the = license, we can't create a pkg for it. You will need to build it from = source:

LICENSE_PERMS=3D  no-pkg-sell = no-dist-mirror no-pkg-mirror = no-dist-sell
        &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;            = ;            <= span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> ^^^^^^^^^
And from bsd.licenses.mk:

# = pkg-mirror    - Free redistribution of package is = permitted


Ah, did not notice that since I did not have a local ports tree (I = prefer to rely on installable packages).  I will pull a new ports = tree and build it = locally.

Thanks,

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= --Apple-Mail=_7318011B-96A6-435C-B1C6-01FFBA8A9F92-- From nobody Sat Jul 1 15:37:02 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QtbsK14NZz4l3HK for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Received: from mailout.easymail.ca (mailout.easymail.ca [64.68.200.34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QtbsJ1YR1z47M9; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@khubla.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tom@khubla.com designates 64.68.200.34 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tom@khubla.com; dmarc=none Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A1461989; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:37:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo09-pco.easydns.vpn Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (emo09-pco.easydns.vpn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id po4NNrgY1om4; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gargamel-2.ascot.khubla.lan (d198-166-24-90.abhsia.telus.net [198.166.24.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE60A60D4E; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 13.2-p1 hanging From: Tom Everett To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <280960a2-6406-97bc-173b-0ddc7a2ce75a@khubla.com> <90c9f1e5-b1eb-3c54-2f37-fc35ae1570af@khubla.com> <48201e39-f3d1-488a-9d9a-7342ef91a54e@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <6fd724c5-1ac7-39a7-b805-91dcdcd73927@khubla.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 09:37:02 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/7.0.60 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5A3A140DF51453A21BE531C3" Content-Language: en-US X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.68.200.0/22]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[64.68.200.34:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16686, ipnet:64.68.200.0/22, country:CA]; BLOCKLISTDE_FAIL(0.00)[198.166.24.90:server fail]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[tom]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[khubla.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QtbsJ1YR1z47M9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5A3A140DF51453A21BE531C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Graham just a follow-up that things have been stable, until this morning when I woke up to essentially the same; system hung and unresponsive to the keyboard or ssh. > Tom Everett > June 26, 2023 at 7:37 AM > That is possible.  Thanks! > > > > Graham Perrin > June 25, 2023 at 9:51 PM > > On 25/06/2023 22:22, Tom Everett wrote: > > > Thanks. Since you now get what's expected at boot time, my guess is > that you previously had an incomplete update. > > Tom Everett > June 25, 2023 at 3:22 PM > No hangs since yesterday afternoon.  I'll email back if it happens again. > > I'm on amd64.  I get: > > ---<>--- > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >     The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > > > > > > Graham Perrin > June 25, 2023 at 1:16 PM > On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote: >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> I used freebsd-update to upgrade. >> >> >> root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> 13.2-RELEASE-p1 >> FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 >> 1302001 1302001 >> root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # > > > Thanks. Do you still get hangs? > > > Do you still get the following line when you boot? > > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 > > > I get this, with 1302001: > > root@fuji:~ # head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today > Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git > llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) > > >> >> >> >>> Graham Perrin >>> June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM >>> >>> freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU >>> >>> What's reported? >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote: >>> >>> That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1. >>> >>> When you updated, which guide did you follow? >>> >>> Tom Everett >>> June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM >>> Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, >>> perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice. Prior to that on >>> previous kernel versions, it had never hung. There is no console >>> output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and >>> stops responding to network traffic. >>> >>> The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help >>> the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights >>> reserved. >>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >>> FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 >>> FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 >>> (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git >>> llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) >>> VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 >>> CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz >>> K8-class CPU) >>>   Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 >>> Features=0x178bfbff >>> Features2=0x7ef8320b >>>   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >>>   AMD >>> Features2=0x75c237ff >>>   Structured Extended >>> Features=0x219c91a9 >>>   Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 >>>   XSAVE Features=0xf >>>   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID >>> EBX=0x108b657 >>>   SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 >>>   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >>> real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) >>> avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) >>> Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 >>> ACPI APIC Table: >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware >>> threads >>> >>> >>> Tom Everett >>> June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM >>> Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, >>> perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice. Prior to that on >>> previous kernel versions, it had never hung. There is no console >>> output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and >>> stops responding to network traffic. >>> >>> The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help >>> the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue? >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project. >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights >>> reserved. >>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >>> FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64 >>> FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 >>> (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git >>> llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c) >>> VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768 >>> CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz >>> K8-class CPU) >>>   Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0 >>> Features=0x178bfbff >>> Features2=0x7ef8320b >>>   AMD Features=0x2e500800 >>>   AMD >>> Features2=0x75c237ff >>>   Structured Extended >>> Features=0x219c91a9 >>>   Structured Extended Features2=0x400004 >>>   XSAVE Features=0xf >>>   AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID >>> EBX=0x108b657 >>>   SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 >>>   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics >>> real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB) >>> avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB) >>> Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 >>> ACPI APIC Table: >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs >>> FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware >>> threads >>> >>> >> > > Tom Everett > June 25, 2023 at 10:15 AM > Thanks for your reply. > > I used freebsd-update to upgrade. > > > root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU > 13.2-RELEASE-p1 > 13.2-RELEASE-p1 > 13.2-RELEASE-p1 > FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 > 1302001 1302001 > root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # > > > > -- Sent from Postbox --------------5A3A140DF51453A21BE531C3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Graham just a follow-up that things have been stable, until this morning when I woke up to essentially the same; system hung and unresponsive to the keyboard or ssh.



June 26, 2023 at 7:37 AM
That is possible.  Thanks!



June 25, 2023 at 9:51 PM

On 25/06/2023 22:22, Tom Everett wrote:


Thanks. Since you now get what's expected at boot time, my guess is that you previously had an incomplete update.

June 25, 2023 at 3:22 PM
No hangs since yesterday afternoon.  I'll email back if it happens again. 

I'm on amd64.  I get:

---<<BOOT>>---
Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)





June 25, 2023 at 1:16 PM
On 25/06/2023 17:15, Tom Everett wrote:
Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #


Thanks. Do you still get hangs?


Do you still get the following line when you boot?

FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64


I get this, with 1302001:

root@fuji:~ # head -n 6 /var/log/dmesg.today
Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
       The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)





June 24, 2023 at 6:53 PM

freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU

What's reported?


On 24/06/2023 23:54, Tom Everett wrote:

That seems inconsistent with 13.2-p1.

When you updated, which guide did you follow?

June 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads


June 24, 2023 at 4:46 PM
Hello. I recently upgraded to FreeBSD 13.2-p1.  Since that time, perhaps a couple days ago my system has hung twice.   Prior to that on previous kernel versions, it had never hung.  There is no console output when it hangs it simply stops responding at the console and stops responding to network traffic. 

The system specifics are below.  Is there anything I can do to help the kernel devs find the (presumably) new issue?

Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64
FreeBSD clang version 14.0.5 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-14.0.5-0-gc12386ae247c)
VT(efifb): resolution 1024x768
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor             (3793.06-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x870f10  Family=0x17  Model=0x71  Stepping=0
  Features=0x178bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT>
  Features2=0x7ef8320b<SSE3,PCLMULQDQ,MON,SSSE3,FMA,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND>
  AMD Features=0x2e500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,Page1GB,RDTSCP,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x75c237ff<LAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8,ABM,SSE4A,MAS,Prefetch,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX,ADMSKX>
  Structured Extended Features=0x219c91a9<FSGSBASE,BMI1,AVX2,SMEP,BMI2,PQM,PQE,RDSEED,ADX,SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,CLWB,SHA>
  Structured Extended Features2=0x400004<UMIP,RDPID>
  XSAVE Features=0xf<XSAVEOPT,XSAVEC,XINUSE,XSAVES>
  AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x108b657<CLZERO,IRPerf,XSaveErPtr,RDPRU,WBNOINVD,IBPB,STIBP,SSBD>
  SVM: (disabled in BIOS) NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 68717379584 (65534 MB)
avail memory = 66762330112 (63669 MB)
Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
ACPI APIC Table: <ALASKA A M I >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 cache groups x 3 core(s) x 2 hardware threads




June 25, 2023 at 10:15 AM
Thanks for your reply.

I used freebsd-update to upgrade.


root@yogi:/tank/home/tom # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
13.2-RELEASE-p1
FreeBSD yogi 13.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p1 GENERIC amd64 1302001 1302001
root@yogi:/tank/home/tom #





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--------------5A3A140DF51453A21BE531C3-- From nobody Sat Jul 1 16:26:52 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qtcyn1d9Qz4kZQn for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 16:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qtcym6l1Qz3C2S for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 16:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 66118 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2023 16:26:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=10242.64a053ce.k2307; bh=96wOA1oGSTh0zSG+sz8ms1lxNLCGLO3qbtAX0/9Vjho=; b=ko4EJ9hcAz6nR8SwdKhoZ2/7wwwFA5aTmdAKZvjiwjauXz5veRm0Ap4FnjIdeP0r0c3TNDVKPNEYqB27dFYDdsmYhFCmDvBPGgbkz9zwLuB4RLW9gRpxdsw4YgdsT2/BdND/haefaryBkzxSkxchpG5hwmKMQQ0bX/GqaPr+uDPRLj7vXP3urzehJyxCUibX1Js3L0/sS2kK5nMgKbtf47IuGIh1CZygA0bBGh6brO0LuZhCkqYnchBmHDyUzNFkrKB6hlkf/2ROHwi7ib/v2ocBivkRBdZg/ILXEpA1rEm3R7VivmSOaUxcLj99D9DtZE/0Kx4Cw4kizohASCPeSw== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD) via TCP6; 01 Jul 2023 16:26:53 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2F70CFD36DFE; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 12:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: 1 Jul 2023 12:26:52 -0400 Message-Id: <20230701162653.2F70CFD36DFE@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd@gushi.org Subject: Re: Cannot install package dcc-dccd In-Reply-To: <4AE19679-7017-41F9-AB0B-77ECA1EB7603@gushi.org> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qtcym6l1Qz3C2S X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N It appears that Dan Mahoney (Ports) said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >It would be cool, I suppose, if ports like this could install a “stub” package that at least let you see the version in the ports >tree, and could tell you when a new version was available to build. That would be horrible -- every time the package was updated, the real DCC would go away and all that would be left is the stub. Every system I've used has had a few ports I build from source because I need something other than the default config. I use pkg -l to keep the package system from changing them and look every once in a while to see if the port has changed. 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 9:27=E2=80=AFAM John Levine wrote: > It appears that Dan Mahoney (Ports) said: > >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > > > >It would be cool, I suppose, if ports like this could install a =E2=80= =9Cstub=E2=80=9D > package that at least let you see the version in the ports > >tree, and could tell you when a new version was available to build. > > That would be horrible -- every time the package was updated, the real DC= C > would go away > and all that would be left is the stub. > > Every system I've used has had a few ports I build from source because I > need something > other than the default config. I use pkg -l to keep the package system > from changing > them and look every once in a while to see if the port has changed. > > While I agree with you here about not having a port, I would like the description to be updated to state it requires a private build. If the package is listed as an available port, that, in my opinion, indicates it is available as a package. I realize that is a deficiency in my understanding of what the ports website entails, but since the clue as to why was in the makefile and not in the description, then I had to ask the group mind for help. Thanks, Patrick > R's, > John > > --0000000000001556d205ff726866 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 9:27=E2=80=AFAM Jo= hn Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrot= e:
It appears that Dan Mahoney (Ports) <freebsd@gushi.org> said:
>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
>
>It would be cool, I suppose, if ports like this could install a =E2=80= =9Cstub=E2=80=9D package that at least let you see the version in the ports=
>tree, and could tell you when a new version was available to build.

That would be horrible -- every time the package was updated, the real DCC = would go away
and all that would be left is the stub.

Every system I've used has had a few ports I build from source because = I need something
other than the default config.=C2=A0 I use pkg -l to keep the package syste= m from changing
them and look every once in a while to see if the port has changed.


While I agree with you here about not = having a port, I would like the description to be updated to state it requi= res a private build.=C2=A0 If the package is listed as an available port, t= hat, in my opinion, indicates it is available as a package.=C2=A0 I realize= that is a deficiency in my understanding of what the ports website entails= , but since the clue as to why was in the makefile and not in the descripti= on, then I had to ask the group mind for help.

Tha= nks,

Patrick
=C2=A0
R's,
John

--0000000000001556d205ff726866-- From nobody Sat Jul 1 20:07:53 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Qtjsn2hJyz4kfKM for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 20:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Qtjsn0Mv6z3Mps for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 20:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 83909 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2023 20:07:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; s=147c3.64a0879a.k2307; bh=nhQBdrmhk8upsWXchx1wE0KAQ/kyAe+4TL5gl+4Msdc=; b=lt4H9nr2XQP5lY6XyMbNEhh3B9ByBwdx19QDUNOdLFD+aJUQ+cepjxdX24pHLxGPzqLwkWIJPLLBEkdArIV1EMXKzDrbuDmXKmBe/L+AzSn5mBo3zj/T/M2/124m7VVzTwJ8b4DFUGwvmlhs7ZmXIP62Gj9Dh5+84xu+7X2uHluKrRcTPnGBLYSUhn8Pp4Ja8ESZ1v07WxUdyEqRi1IGExH8d3o2jAiHf5pcRupFiplJlweayMeX0aUzWSefULY7PWQ0gXG7tDSri0bkBBTtt6UvLJb+jKG0pWsRZsFcDQWzpF1qCF7F6M3FZSylD2QjUbpG3Rkdd9K/0F8IsWkl1A== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD) via TCP6; 01 Jul 2023 20:07:54 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7E5FCFD38AFB; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ary.qy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B7AFD38ADD; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 16:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: 1 Jul 2023 16:07:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Patrick Mahan" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@gushi.org X-X-Sender: johnl@ary.qy Subject: Re: Cannot install package dcc-dccd In-Reply-To: References: <4AE19679-7017-41F9-AB0B-77ECA1EB7603@gushi.org> <20230701162653.2F70CFD36DFE@ary.qy> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Qtjsn0Mv6z3Mps X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, 1 Jul 2023, Patrick Mahan wrote: > While I agree with you here about not having a port, I would like the > description to be updated to state it requires a private build. That's what the LICENSE_PERMS line in the Makefile says. Details here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/LicenseInfrastructure If you'd like some sort of tombstone in the package system, we're all volunteers here and we all have the source code. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly