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ASN(0.00)[asn:2514, ipnet:219.118.64.0/20, country:JP]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[219.118.72.102:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rim.or.jp]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PnJTL3Mmqz4LGt X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 草地＠リムネットと申します。 普段は FreeBSDをデスクトップ環境として使ってはいないのですが、少し古い手元で 動くデスクトップ環境 (FreeBSD 11.4 + xorg 7.7 + xfce4-wm 4.16 + emacs 27.2 + screen 4.8.0) で確認すると xfce-terminal で screen を起動して emacs -nw を実 行すると同じ様にモードラインの表示が見えなくなると言う現象は確認出来ました。 更に調べてみるとどうも普通にターミナル内で emacs -nw で起動した場合と screen 内で実行した場合ではどうも emacs のカラーマップが変わってしまう様でモードライ ンの background colorと foreground colorが同じになってしまって見えない状態に なっている様です。 とりあえず、emacs を screen内で起動した時にだけ強制的にモードラインの色を変更 する様なコードを書いてみましたので、.emacs に追記して確認してみて下さい。 ;; ;; mode-line-color (screen) ;; (when (string= "TERM=screen" (format "%s" (nth 0 (nth 0 (list (mapcan #'(lambda (e) (and (string-match "^TERM=" e) (list e))) initial-environment)))))) (progn (set-face-foreground 'mode-line "black") (set-face-background 'mode-line "darkslategrey") ) ) これでとりあえず、emacs の mode-lineが見える様にはなるのですが、emacsの ターミナル設定の問題なのか screenの問題なのかは原因不明です。 # 普段は emacs -nw --color=never で使っているので全く気が付きませんでした。 なお、mode-line に指定している色については M-x list-colors-display で表示 される色の名前を設定しています。 とりあえず参考まで。 On 2023.03.30 11:24, 丸山直昌 wrote: > 丸山です。 > > screen の元ではTERM 環境変数の値は screen です。これは太古の昔からそうで > した。私は > >> screen も emacs(前身の Nemacs も含めて)もかれこれ30年使っていますが、こ >> んな経験は初めてです。最近まで使っていた10.2ではこんなことはありませんで >> した。 > > と書きましたが、具体的には、以下の環境で "screen"+"emacs -nw" を使って、 > これまでこの種の問題に遭遇することなく使えていたのです。 > > SunOS4.1上のkterm > FreeBSD1.1.5.1上のkterm > FreeBSD2.2.6上のkterm > FreeBSD4.4上のkterm > FreeBSD4.7上のkterm > FreeBSD5.5上のkterm > FreeBSD6.4上のkterm > FreeBSD7.4上のkterm > FreeBSD9.1上のkonsole > FreeBSD9.2上のkonsole > FreeBSD9.2上のxfce-terminal > FreeBSD10.2上のkonsole > FreeBSD10.2上のxfce-terminal > > ただし、FreeBSD4.4 より前の３つについては、 emacs の日本語対応がない時代 > だったので、emacs の日本語化(多言語化)バージョンである mule で、mule -nw > とやっていました。 > > それが最近FreeBSD13.1に version up してみたら、この現象に遭遇したので、 > 私は「これは最近入り込んだバグだ」と申し上げているのです。最近10年間ほど > は.screenrc はいじっていません。ただバグがscreenの termcap にあるのか、 > screen自体にあるのか、 emacs にあるのか、ncurses(3X)にあるのか、私には判 > 別がつきません。 > > Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:51:00 +0900 > Hajimu UMEMOTO writes: > >> 端末と screen 環境下の差は TERM 環境変数の値の違いによるものと思います。 >> Konsole は使ったことがないのでどのような値になるのかわかりませんが、 > > 私はバグレポートのつもりで書いているので、実際に使ってみて検証してからリ > プライして欲しかったです。 > >> xterm あるいはそれに類するものになっていると思います。screen はデフォ >> ルトでは screen になっています。 >> term コマンドで TERM を設定できます。例えば xterm と設定したいのであれば、 >> >> term xterm >> >> と ~/.screenrc ファイルに書いておきます。 > > これは、私の理解では > > env TERM=xterm emacs -nw > > とたいして変わりないと思いますが、やはりダメです。 > >> 今時の端末なら、xterm-256color と指定したいかもしれません。 >> >> TERM=screen でなぜモードラインが反転しないのかはわからないですが、おそ >> らく emacs の設定によるのではないかと推測します。 >> >> -- >> 梅本 肇 >> ume@mahoroba.org ume@FreeBSD.org >> プログラムは書いた人の意図ではなく書かれた通り動く I hate Modula-3 :-) > > -------- > 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ > メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp > -- 草地　薫 (Kaoru Kusachi) tika@st.rim.or.jp Nakno,Tokyo,Japan. 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Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:20:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:20:08 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: users-jp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: screen and emacs Message-Id: <20230330212008.e4a743c160742bdbded5e66a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.2) List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-users-jp List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.44 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.982]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.79)[0.791]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.77)[-0.768]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PnMv73wlYz3Kwk X-Spamd-Bar: / X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:46:11 +0900 Kaoru Kusachi wrote: 青木@名古屋です。 sysutils/screenは使っていないのですが、FreshPortsで該当の項目を 見てみたところ、デフォルトではportsのものが入っていればそちら、 入っていなければbaseのncursesを使うようです。 となると、termcapの設定に問題があるのかもしれませんね。 　https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/share/termcap/termcap?h=releng/13.1 2757行目あたりからscreen用の設定になっているようですが、 　https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/share/termcap/termcap?h=releng/13.1&id=e47f1857b2499eaf33c65f6b437f0e564ef4a371 上記が直近の変更で、まさにscreenのエントリを行進しています ので、このとき元になったscreen同梱のterminfoなりそこからの 変換でなにかあったのかもしれません。 2020年の更新なので、最終更新が2015年1月のreleng/10.2には 入っていませんし。 > 草地＠リムネットと申します。 > > 普段は FreeBSDをデスクトップ環境として使ってはいないのですが、少し古い手元で > 動くデスクトップ環境 (FreeBSD 11.4 + xorg 7.7 + xfce4-wm 4.16 + emacs 27.2 + > screen 4.8.0) で確認すると xfce-terminal で screen を起動して emacs -nw を実 > 行すると同じ様にモードラインの表示が見えなくなると言う現象は確認出来ました。 > > 更に調べてみるとどうも普通にターミナル内で emacs -nw で起動した場合と screen > 内で実行した場合ではどうも emacs のカラーマップが変わってしまう様でモードライ > ンの background colorと foreground colorが同じになってしまって見えない状態に > なっている様です。 > > とりあえず、emacs を screen内で起動した時にだけ強制的にモードラインの色を変更 > する様なコードを書いてみましたので、.emacs に追記して確認してみて下さい。 > > ;; > ;; mode-line-color (screen) > ;; > (when (string= "TERM=screen" > (format "%s" (nth 0 (nth 0 (list > (mapcan #'(lambda (e) (and (string-match "^TERM=" e) (list e))) > initial-environment)))))) > (progn > (set-face-foreground 'mode-line "black") > (set-face-background 'mode-line "darkslategrey") > ) > ) > > これでとりあえず、emacs の mode-lineが見える様にはなるのですが、emacsの > ターミナル設定の問題なのか screenの問題なのかは原因不明です。 > > # 普段は emacs -nw --color=never で使っているので全く気が付きませんでした。 > > なお、mode-line に指定している色については M-x list-colors-display で表示 > される色の名前を設定しています。 > > とりあえず参考まで。 > > On 2023.03.30 11:24, 丸山直昌 wrote: > > 丸山です。 > > > > screen の元ではTERM 環境変数の値は screen です。これは太古の昔からそうで > > した。私は > > > >> screen も emacs(前身の Nemacs も含めて)もかれこれ30年使っていますが、こ > >> んな経験は初めてです。最近まで使っていた10.2ではこんなことはありませんで > >> した。 > > > > と書きましたが、具体的には、以下の環境で "screen"+"emacs -nw" を使って、 > > これまでこの種の問題に遭遇することなく使えていたのです。 > > > > SunOS4.1上のkterm > > FreeBSD1.1.5.1上のkterm > > FreeBSD2.2.6上のkterm > > FreeBSD4.4上のkterm > > FreeBSD4.7上のkterm > > FreeBSD5.5上のkterm > > FreeBSD6.4上のkterm > > FreeBSD7.4上のkterm > > FreeBSD9.1上のkonsole > > FreeBSD9.2上のkonsole > > FreeBSD9.2上のxfce-terminal > > FreeBSD10.2上のkonsole > > FreeBSD10.2上のxfce-terminal > > > > ただし、FreeBSD4.4 より前の３つについては、 emacs の日本語対応がない時代 > > だったので、emacs の日本語化(多言語化)バージョンである mule で、mule -nw > > とやっていました。 > > > > それが最近FreeBSD13.1に version up してみたら、この現象に遭遇したので、 > > 私は「これは最近入り込んだバグだ」と申し上げているのです。最近10年間ほど > > は.screenrc はいじっていません。ただバグがscreenの termcap にあるのか、 > > screen自体にあるのか、 emacs にあるのか、ncurses(3X)にあるのか、私には判 > > 別がつきません。 > > > > Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:51:00 +0900 > > Hajimu UMEMOTO writes: > > > >> 端末と screen 環境下の差は TERM 環境変数の値の違いによるものと思います。 > >> Konsole は使ったことがないのでどのような値になるのかわかりませんが、 > > > > 私はバグレポートのつもりで書いているので、実際に使ってみて検証してからリ > > プライして欲しかったです。 > > > >> xterm あるいはそれに類するものになっていると思います。screen はデフォ > >> ルトでは screen になっています。 > >> term コマンドで TERM を設定できます。例えば xterm と設定したいのであれば、 > >> > >> term xterm > >> > >> と ~/.screenrc ファイルに書いておきます。 > > > > これは、私の理解では > > > > env TERM=xterm emacs -nw > > > > とたいして変わりないと思いますが、やはりダメです。 > > > >> 今時の端末なら、xterm-256color と指定したいかもしれません。 > >> > >> TERM=screen でなぜモードラインが反転しないのかはわからないですが、おそ > >> らく emacs の設定によるのではないかと推測します。 > >> > >> -- > >> 梅本 肇 > >> ume@mahoroba.org ume@FreeBSD.org > >> プログラムは書いた人の意図ではなく書かれた通り動く I hate Modula-3 :-) > > > > -------- > > 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ > > メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp > > > > -- > 草地　薫 (Kaoru Kusachi) tika@st.rim.or.jp > Nakno,Tokyo,Japan. > > -- 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI] From nobody Thu Mar 30 12:30:34 2023 X-Original-To: users-jp@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PnN791Xn7z42x7w for ; 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Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-users-jp List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20230330212008.e4a743c160742bdbded5e66a@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Forwarder: mhsmtpd (Ver. 1.02b) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 01:09:35 +0900 Sender: shirai@mx1.unixusers.net Message-Id: <20230330160935.3098120048AFE@mx1.unixusers.net> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.95 / 15.00]; FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.943]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.910]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[shirai@unixusers.net,shirai@mx1.unixusers.net]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24282, ipnet:210.134.48.0/20, country:JP]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unixusers.net]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[shirai@unixusers.net,shirai@mx1.unixusers.net] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PnSzq6Y4fz4Jyn X-Spamd-Bar: / X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 　しらいです。 　TERM 変数を変えることで挙動が変わるんだったら、それはもう emacs のせいでも screen のせいでもなくて termcap library の せいでしょうね。 　ncurses にバグがあるか、termcap/terminfo の記述が間違って いるか。 On 23/03/30 21:20, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > 青木@名古屋です。 > sysutils/screenは使っていないのですが、FreshPortsで該当の項目を > 見てみたところ、デフォルトではportsのものが入っていればそちら、 > 入っていなければbaseのncursesを使うようです。 > となると、termcapの設定に問題があるのかもしれませんね。 　未だに FreeBSD は ncurses を termcap ベースで使ってるんで すね。頑なだなー。まぁこういう検証時は tic 不要の termcap の 方がだいぶ楽ですね。 > 　https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/share/termcap/termcap?h=releng/13.1&id=e47f1857b2499eaf33c65f6b437f0e564ef4a371 > > 上記が直近の変更で、まさにscreenのエントリを行進しています > ので、このとき元になったscreen同梱のterminfoなりそこからの > 変換でなにかあったのかもしれません。 > 2020年の更新なので、最終更新が2015年1月のreleng/10.2には > 入っていませんし。 　もしこれが原因だとしたら、OS 標準の termcap を ~/.termcap にコピーして、上記の差分を patch -R でリバースパッチしてやれ ば、そのユーザだけ 10.2 以前の環境を再現出来ると思います。 　それで直るようなら、「termcap の screen エントリがおかしい」 と具体的な指摘が出来るので、core team にフィードバックするに しても話が早いんじゃないでしょうか。 　余裕があれば行単位や単語単位で編集を繰り返して、capability レベルで原因究明してあげると喜ばれるんじゃないでしょうか。斜 め読み程度ですが「hs」の追加なんて怪しそうですね。 しらい たかし From nobody Thu Mar 30 18:03:46 2023 X-Original-To: users-jp@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PnWWj45ZTz426dL for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.53 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.936]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Pp0Rp6NRTz3sBg X-Spamd-Bar: - X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 19:04:05 +0900 bluesky wrote: 青木@名古屋です。 このあたりはターミナルエミュレータにもよりそうです。 Mate（その前はGnome2）の更新で挙動がおかしくなった時の 予備環境の変遷や、MATE端末が一時期挙動不審になっていた 頃にいろいろ代替を試した関係でいろいろ入っているので 確認してみました。　概ねMATE端末と同じか＋αですが、 違っているものもあります。 stable/13, amd64のcommit bfd32571efc73fdb7f0614dd94f86402680983b3 です。　screenは入っていませんので未テストです。 テキストコンソール（vt[efifb]）だと TERM=xterm Mate＋compiz上の MATE端末: TERM=xterm-256color COLORTERM=truecolor XFCE端末: COLORTERM=truecolor TERM=xterm-256color qterminal: COLORTERM=truecolor TERM=xterm-256color konsole: COLORTERM=truecolor TERM=xterm-256color rxvt-unicode: TERM=rxvt COLORTERM=rxvt-xpm kitty: TERM=xterm-kitty COLORTERM=truecolor TERMINFO=/usr/local/lib/kitty/terminfo wezterm: COLORTERM=truecolor TERM=xterm-256color TERM_PROGRAM=WezTerm TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION=20230326-111934-3666303c WEZTERM_CONFIG_DIR=/home/junchoon/.config/wezterm WEZTERM_CONFIG_FILE=/home/junchoon/.config/wezterm/wezterm.lua WEZTERM_EXECUTABLE=/usr/local/bin/wezterm-gui WEZTERM_EXECUTABLE_DIR=/usr/local/bin WEZTERM_PANE=0 xterm: XTERM_SHELL=/bin/tcsh TERMCAP=xterm|X11 terminal emulator:@7=\EOF:@8=\EOM:F1=\E[23~:F2=\E[24~:K2=\EOE:Km=\E[M:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:k5=\E[15~:k6=\E[17~:k7=\E[18~:k8=\E[19~:k9=\E[20~:k;=\E[21~:kI=\E[2~:kN=\E[6~:kP=\E[5~:kd=\EOB:kh=\EOH:kl=\EOD:kr=\EOC:ku=\EOA:am:bs:km:mi:ms:ut:xn:AX:Co#8:co#80:kn#12:li#24:pa#64:AB=\E[4%dm:AF=\E[3%dm:AL=\E[%dL:DC=\E[%dP:DL=\E[%dM:DO=\E[%dB:LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC:UP=\E[%dA:ae=\E(B:al=\E[L:as=\E(0:bl=^G:cd=\E[J:ce=\E[K:cl=\E[H\E[2J:cm=\E[%i%d; %dH:cs=\E[%i%d; %dr:ct=\E[3g:dc=\E[P:dl=\E[M:ei=\E[4l:ho=\E[H:im=\E[4h:is=\E[!p\E[? 3;4l\E[4l\E>:kD=\E[3~:ke=\E[?1l\E>:ks=\E[? 1h\E=:kB=\E[Z:le=^H:md=\E[1m:me=\E[m:ml=\El:mr=\E[7m:mu=\Em:nd=\E[C:op=\E[39;49m:rc=\E8:rs=\E[! p\E[? 3;4l\E[4l\E>:sc=\E7:se=\E[27m:sf=^J:so=\E[7m:sr=\EM:st=\EH:ue=\E[24m:up=\E[A:us=\E[4m:ve=\E[? 12l\E[?25h:vi=\E[?25l:vs=\E[?12;25h:ZH=\E[3m:ZR=\E[23m:kb=\010: XTERM_LOCALE=ja_JP.UTF-8 XTERM_VERSION=XTerm(379) TERM=xterm > 悸村です。 > screen を殆ど使用した経験のない者です。 > > いま、テスト用に FreeBSD-13.2-RC4 (amd64) > をインストールしていたのですが、試しに TERM 関係の環境変数を > 調べてみました。 > > $ printenv | grep TERM > TERM=xterm > > という結果で、COLORTERM は設定されていません。 > TERM も xterm-256color (記憶による)になっていません。 > > (FreeBSD 13.2 は、既に RC5 が出ていて、日本時間明日ころには > RC6 が出る予定のようですが…。) > > -- > 悸村成一 > -- 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI] From nobody Fri Mar 31 13:16:56 2023 X-Original-To: users-jp@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Pp16522p4z42TyB for ; 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PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Pp1640ZDHz3wlS X-Spamd-Bar: - X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:13:19 +0900 masa@amogha.jp (丸山直昌) wrote: > 年金生活者 丸山です。 > > 以上2件は、13.1の問題というよりは、 package の問題でしたが、ここでは13.1 > の bsdinstall の機能を話題にします。 > > 大変残念なことに 13.1 の bsdinstall では gptスキームのfreebsd-zfs のパー > ティションにインストールができません。freebsd-ufsのパーティションにはで > きますが、freebsd-zfs はできないのです。ディスク丸ごと1本を zfs にするイ > ンストールはできますが、既存のパーティションは保存したまま、空き領域に > freebsd-zfs パーティションを作って、そこにインストールして欲しいと思って > も、 13.1のbsdinstallは使えないのです。zfs をこよなく愛する私としてはこ > れは悲しいことです。 ufs は newfs コマンド一発でファイルシステムが作れま > すが、zfs プールを一個作るための newzfs のようなコマンドは(私が知る限り) > 無く、プールの初期作成が面倒なので、 bsdinstall にその機能を期待したいの > です。 > > 13.2 でサポートされていたら嬉しいのですが。 > > -------- > 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ > メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp 昨年（2022年）5月にfreebsd-hackers MLでこんな話が出ていましたが 　https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2022-May/001128.html こういうものという訳ではありませんよね？ 一応、14系には昨年8月に入っていますが、 　https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=240afd8c1fcc8c5f29dbd4ff0c915795d414405d MFCされていないので13系や12系には入っていません。 最後にインストーラを使ってFreeBSDをインストールしたのは bsdinstallができる以前のsysinstall時代なのでbsdinstallに ついてはMLに流れている情報等でコアになるインストーラ本体は コンパクトにとどめて大半の処理をスクリプトでやっているようだ という程度しか知りませんが、ZFSは柔軟すぎてディスク全体を FreeBSDで使う前提以外までは手が回っていないのではないか と思います。　ハンドブックで見ても、ドライブ1台しかない ノートの場合、マニュアルでは何を選べばいいかすら混乱しそう ですし。 -- 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI] From nobody Sat Apr 1 02:39:26 2023 X-Original-To: users-jp@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PpLwB5hNzz42NFP for ; 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