From nobody Sat Apr 1 17:27:16 2023 X-Original-To: users-jp@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Ppkcf2Zmwz434cd for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2023 17:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shirai@mx1.unixusers.net) Received: from mx1.unixusers.net (unixusers.net [210.134.53.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PpkcZ5YrSz41xt for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2023 17:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shirai@mx1.unixusers.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shirai@mx1.unixusers.net has no SPF policy when checking 210.134.53.253) smtp.mailfrom=shirai@mx1.unixusers.net; dmarc=none Received: by mx1.unixusers.net (Postfix, from userid 1093) id 6B16E2006660B; Sun, 2 Apr 2023 02:27:16 +0900 (JST) Received: from yuka.unixusers.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.unixusers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6722540ADF76A for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2023 02:27:16 +0900 (JST) To: users-jp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: screen and emacs In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 31 Mar 2023 03:03:46 JST. <86cz4q86bh.wl-ume@mahoroba.org> Content-Type: text/plain; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.1 Subject: Re: screen and emacs Content-Language: en-US To: masa@amogha.jp Cc: users-jp@freebsd.org References: From: Kaoru Kusachi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at si-mail04 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PpvNn4qm5z3Cwc X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2514, ipnet:219.118.64.0/20, country:JP] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 丸山様 草地＠リムネットです。 お知らせ頂いた2項目実験してみました。 > 1. xfce-terminal 上で printenv COLORTERM $ printenv COLORTERM truecolor > 2. xfce-terminal 上で screen を起動し、その窓の中で env COLORTERM= emacs -nw COLORTERM= を設定して起動する事で、emacsのモードラインも 通常の様に表示されました。 以上、ご参考まで。 On 2023.04.01 11:46, 丸山直昌 wrote: > 草地 樣 > > Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:46:11 +0900 > Kaoru Kusachi writes: > >> 草地＠リムネットと申します。 >> >> 普段は FreeBSDをデスクトップ環境として使ってはいないのですが、少し古い手元で >> 動くデスクトップ環境 (FreeBSD 11.4 + xorg 7.7 + xfce4-wm 4.16 + emacs 27.2 + >> screen 4.8.0) で確認すると xfce-terminal で screen を起動して emacs -nw を実 >> 行すると同じ様にモードラインの表示が見えなくなると言う現象は確認出来ました。 > > その環境で、二つ実験して結果をお知らせ頂ければ幸いです。 > > 1. xfce-terminal 上で printenv COLORTERM > 2. xfce-terminal 上で screen を起動し、その窓の中で env COLORTERM= emacs -nw > > よろしく。 > > -------- > 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ > メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp > -- 草地　薫 (Kaoru Kusachi) tika@st.rim.or.jp Nakno,Tokyo,Japan. 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PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PsxNb36yFz4Mx3 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 青木@名古屋です。 私の場合、ibusではなくfcitxなので挙動が同じという保証は できませんが、 　日本語入力のOn/Off及びon時の日本語入力が可能なのは 　文字の入力が可能な部分のみ かつ、 　入力にxim又はimmoduleのあるツールキットを使っている 場合かと思います。 例えば何らかのターミナルエミュレータであれば、少なくとも コマンド入力ができる範囲全面が対象ですし、gimageview等の 画像表示ソフトの画像表示部分は操作に必要な特定のキーだけ 処理するようになっていてかな漢字変換のトグルは無視、という 挙動です。　firefoxやchromiumは通常のページ表示部分は 特定のキー以外無視しつつ、入力ペインに関してはgtk3の受け 付けるものをそのまま受け付けているように思います。 　※これに加え、googleの検索ページ等はサイトの機能として 　　かな漢字変換の状態に関係なく入力中のもの（On the Spotで 　　変換中の入力含む）から予測した候補を表示しているようです。 実際、googleが知ったことではない筈のFreeBSDのBugzillaの 検索ページの入力フィールドでもかな漢字変換のトグルや （サイト側で処理されるかは別として）日本語入力もできて しまいます。 厄介なのがXではなくWaylandを使うもののようです。 weztermではトグルも日本語入力も効きますが、kittyでは 効きません。　いずれもgtk[2|3]やqt[5|6]を使っていないので IMEとしてはXIMにフォールバックしない限りどうにもならない 訳ですが、ちょっと調べてみたら 　https://github.com/wez/wezterm/issues/250 が見つかり、斜め読みした程度ではweztermではXIMを使うコードを libX11直接ではなくfcitxのxcb対応のものをベースに作り込んで いる気配です。（gtkのものを使う提案もあったものの依存関係の ためか却下されているようです） On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:06:18 +0900 bluesky wrote: > 悸村です。 > > いま FreeBSD-13.2-RC6 (amd64) をテスト環境として使用しています。 > デスクトップは xfce で ibus 関係は ibus-mozc を選択・使用中です。 > ログイン・シェルは bash にしています。 > KDE は使っていません。 > xfce-4.18 > ibus-1.5.27_2 > ja-ibus-mozc-2.23.2815.102.01_12 > bash-5.2.15 > > ibus 関係の日本語用の設定は、次の各ファイルに書かれています。 > textproc/ibus/pkg-message > japanese/ibus-anthy/pkg-message > japanese/ibus-mozc/files/pkg-message.in > japanese/ibus-skk/pkg-message > > > export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus > の部分が、 > > export QT_IM_MODULE=xim > になっている例があり、詳細は不明なように思います。(私の知識では、と > いう限定が必要かも知れませんが)。 > > 私方では japanese/ibus-mozc/files/pkg-message.in の記述に依 > り、~/.bashrc ~/.xsesseion (~/.xinitrc ~/.xsessionrc のハ > ード・リンク) に見慣れた設定を書いてあります。 > export XIM=ibus > export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus > export QT_IM_MODULE=xim > export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus > export XIM_PROGRAM="ibus-daemon" > export XIM_ARGS="--daemonize --xim" > > 参照: "今さら .xinitrc, .xsession, .xprofile" > https://gordiustears.net/xinitrc-xsession-xprofile/ > > mozc と ibus-daemon の起動は ~/.xsession 内に記載しています。 > /usr/local/bin/mozc start > /usr/local/bin/ibus-daemon -r --daemonize --xim > > 以上の設定で、恐らく gtk アプリと推測されるアプリケーションは ibus- > mozc で日本語変換できています。[半角/全角 漢字] キーもトグルして有 > 効です。 > www/midori, editors/gedit, editors/mousepad, mail/sylpheed > などが該当します。 > [日本語変換] と [日本語入力] は、ケース・バイ・ケースで区別すべきでは > ないでしょうか。 > > で、www/firefox, www/chromium は日本語変換が出来ません。[半角/全 > 角 漢字] キーも無反応です。 > google の検索ボックスなどでは、手元の ibus が日本語変換をしている > のではなく、google 側が日本語変換した候補を表示して来るように見えます。 > firefox でも、chromium の場合でも同様でしょう。 > > そして、次の現象が起こっています。 > xfce の環境で、xfce4-terminal の中でコマンドを打つ。 > env GTK_IM_MODULE=xim firefox & > or > env GTK_IM_MODULE=xim chrome & > こうやって起動した場合、なぜか firefox も chromium も日本語変換を > します。[半角/全角 漢字] キーもトグルして有効です。 > > 単なるあて勘のような推測ですが、firefox, chromium は XIM 対応で > ビルドされているかも知れない…、と感じるのは不自然でしょうか。 > > 私は現在、 KDE も GNOME も使用していないので、それらのデスクトップ環 > 境に関する話は書けない状態ですが、別になにも困っていません。 > > KDE4 と書いてあるので古い情報かも知れませんが、KDE 用の設定は　~/.xsession > と違うファイルを指定されているようです。 > japanese/ibus-anthy/pkg-message > > If you are using KDE4, you may create a shell script in $HOME/.kde4/env, > > and add following lines: > > 何かが解決されたわけでは無い、という状態ではありますが……。 > > -- > 悸村成一 > -- 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI] From nobody Thu Apr 6 22:45:19 2023 X-Original-To: users-jp@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PsxR854VWz43V7y for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2023 22:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PsxR71Mczz4QLj for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2023 22:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp has no SPF policy when checking 153.125.133.21) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp; dmarc=none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-88-210.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.88.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.16.1/8.16.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 336MjJo0036239 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2023 07:45:19 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 07:45:19 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: users-jp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?5pel5pys6Kqe5YWl5Yqb?= Message-Id: <20230407074519.c46810d22e0fe6647e9f8d1b@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <4PscbW0zYbz447fy@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.2) List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-users-jp List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[users-jp@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PsxR71Mczz4QLj X-Spamd-Bar: - X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N 青木@名古屋です。 ~/.xinitrcに echo '*inputMethod: ibus' | xrdb -merge を追記したらどうなりますか？ 私の場合、過去、使っているIMFに何か問題が発生していたり メンテナンスされなくなったりで代わりを検討する際のため 頭の方でXMODIFIERを設定した上でその値によって場合分けして 容易に切り替えられるように仕込んでいるのですが、ibusを 使っていた当時の名残は 　　　（前略） ## Input Method configuration # case "${XMODIFIERS}" in 　　　（中略） @im=ibus) echo '*inputMethod: ibus' | xrdb -merge # export XIM=ibus export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus export QT_IM_MODULE=xim # export XIM_PROGRAM="ibus-daemon" # export XIM_ARGS="-r --daemonize --xim" ibus-daemon -r --daemonize --xim ;; 　　　（中略） esac 　　　（後略） のようになっていました。　当時chromiumは使っていなかった 又はまだportsになかったと思いますし、firefoxのバージョンも 随分と進みましたが、当時はfirefoxでも日本語入力できていたと 記憶しています。 なお、現在はfcitxを使っていますが、その部分は @im=fcitx) echo '*inputMethod: fcitx' | xrdb -merge export GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx export GTK3_IM_MODULE=fcitx export QT_IM_MODULE=fcitx # export QT_IM_MODULE=xim export XIM_PROGRAM="fcitx" fcitx -r -d -s1 ;; のようになっており、firefox・chromiumとも、表示されている ページ内の入力フィールド・ブラウザ自体の入力フィールド問わず 日本語入力はできています。 　※変換エンジンはmozcです。　ibusを使っていた当時はanthyだった 　　かもしれません。 fcitxに移行したきっかけは日本語入力自体ではなく、IMEパネルなり 関連ツールのトラブルか使い勝手だったと記憶しています。 このecho '*inputMethod: の部分ですが、最初に本格的にFreeBSDに 触り始めた頃、まだFreeBSDで使えるVJEが販売されていた頃に購入して 使っていた頃から echo '*inputMethod: vje' | xrdb -merge のように設定しており、以後、IMEを乗り換えてもvjeの部分を書き換える 形で慣例的に設定しています。　元々は雑誌か書籍の付録に収録されていた 後藤大地さん作の.xinitrcの例に継ぎ足したかと。 On Fri, 07 Apr 2023 00:30:37 +0900 masa@amogha.jp (丸山直昌) wrote: > 悸村 樣 > > 丸山です。有難うございます。 > > Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:06:18 +0900 > bluesky writes: > > >私方では japanese/ibus-mozc/files/pkg-message.in の記述に依 > >り、~/.bashrc ~/.xsesseion (~/.xinitrc ~/.xsessionrc のハ > >ード・リンク) に見慣れた設定を書いてあります。 > >export XIM=ibus > >export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus > >export QT_IM_MODULE=xim > >export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus > >export XIM_PROGRAM="ibus-daemon" > >export XIM_ARGS="--daemonize --xim" > > 私の .xsession とは QT_IM_MODULE のところだけ違っていますね。 > > >xfce の環境で、xfce4-terminal の中でコマンドを打つ。 > >env GTK_IM_MODULE=xim firefox & > >or > >env GTK_IM_MODULE=xim chrome & > >こうやって起動した場合、なぜか firefox も chromium も日本語変換を > >します。[半角/全角 漢字] キーもトグルして有効です。 > > 試してみました。kde5 の konsole 上で > > env GTK_IM_MODULE=xim chrome & > > とやると、これで起動された chrome には日本語が入ります！これは何なのでしょ > う？ > > ibus-1.5.27_1.pkg を pkg add した時のメッセージは > > Message from ibus-1.5.27_1: > (途中略) > If you are using KDE4, you may create a shell script in $HOME/.kde4/env > ($HOME/.config/plasma-workspace/env for Plasma) and add following lines: > > #!/bin/sh > export XIM=ibus > export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus > export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus > export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus > export XIM_PROGRAM="ibus-daemon" > export XIM_ARGS="--daemonize --xim" > (以下略) > > となっているので、それに従って私は自分の .xsession を書いたのですが、、、。 > > いったい > > export GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus > export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim > > のいずれが正しいのか？ > > また > > export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus > export QT_IM_MODULE=xim > > のいずれが正しいのか？ > > もう少し実験してみます。 > > -------- > 丸山 直昌 まるやま なおまさ > メールアドレス： masa@amogha.jp > -- 青木 知明 [Tomoaki AOKI]