From nobody Sat Jul 15 17:31:45 2023 X-Original-To: virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4R3Fl84sTVz4nL7G for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 17:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob.fx907@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x334.google.com (mail-wm1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4R3Fl76N1Kz45qN for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 17:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob.fx907@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-wm1-x334.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-3fbb634882dso6148675e9.0 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1689442306; x=1692034306; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Fdaa5RQs1mSaLi0Jj7qr+PSMgD7AXH5Wc8zgBPVkxp4=; b=MFIiSVNGwSbU0NlJVTfTwtYULQUd+HrOTLg9p65vXReqFnLmN7Fw8woswRx/DwPfUJ JqpOPanTWAyJvmBP5JawINqZKJGrKlSu7fptmZojr5rijVznN+zvIfwA5N2dtgfPCNuB mM2klOXiGrvTCVsSE1nYTF+nmx0ADdtdiNOlfXOgJ/SpfNuP0f2+lDkDthONwHJ5QBSQ ns1hWdGhjZ2A17RTLeXlEuKetbGWluJ/df7JMwAL0u4ba3z3PwD1lixwBag3+n97mEAx GYC1eJBLw19/CgGSNW/2k1aGA41rVeBV4ROnx9gepv2JjbYde8DJ30OUHDxtf05ArLDB gM4w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1689442306; x=1692034306; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Fdaa5RQs1mSaLi0Jj7qr+PSMgD7AXH5Wc8zgBPVkxp4=; b=FBdZRsUxqOFQR60E4U4zelx0XB7sRwX8g/JMPmTvGHT+QHTGfnVxCwR53n2WlZ+QU/ OSTnb1Gb7xX2SFqihFH1qNxnr2oQakr214KxqHl6NrxLAH77BmeCWz5rX8uhvjwkJ0El 3jJSsV0T6imau8WrO78v84VzJANL77q9GW8oxXdgHGnAzccKanN+5Fjh4OYvoY2Ik4sH uzVZxtcgBipYh0mWnnrrMePjlHJogC6cDPTYlVjztvllBHLz4Y4kp3mnhvu/HJvObuP1 K1V7p5ySFIU5wM7ECKhes+VJBGzlZU16Ze3kUYBojrUQkcphbprSjSSvxDeSIIszX8D/ rlmg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLY4LDQht/MUSPLq9wwwvOJlvFmlsRsZaEVZ79K/R2MEMRS+u8NL j4zaQNZ+P4m6pufH5hhZZriXg5bulINVpm4FpZKapZX4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlFmxVYvCJdwWiG6TtlRSEMag7KRSpfrbfq2xQ3MsPoIH2oULSaloLD+iAs75Hr3egnxmoAYgeQkuHONV++ckq4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:348d:b0:3fb:a651:c153 with SMTP id a13-20020a05600c348d00b003fba651c153mr2158406wmq.2.1689442306160; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:31:46 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:907:970d:b0:982:69cd:7365 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:31:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a037482-2e6c-667f-1979-d5b612e506ec@shrew.net> References: <67FDC8A8-86A6-4AE4-85F0-FF7BEF9F2F06@gmail.com> <6b98da58a5bd8e83bc466efa20b5a900298210aa.camel@FreeBSD.org> <8387AC83-6667-48E5-A3FA-11475EA96A5F@gmail.com> <986A83D8-E0E0-4030-9369-A5B3500E27C6@gmail.com> <79fabe94-b800-c713-48ea-518da1f74e4d@shrew.net> <3973013d-c183-360f-d7ca-ca822859c23d@shrew.net> <3a037482-2e6c-667f-1979-d5b612e506ec@shrew.net> From: Rob Wing Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:31:45 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BHYVE SNAPSHOT image format proposal To: Matthew Grooms Cc: "virtualization@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000086fca1060089f0d4" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4R3Fl76N1Kz45qN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000086fca1060089f0d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Saturday, July 15, 2023, Matthew Grooms wrote: > > > We'll overlook the fact that it does attempt to consolidate files ( 2 vs 3 > ) and that there's no feedback requesting further consolidation after being > open for two years, but noted. You may as well abandon https://reviews.freebsd.org/D29262, for these reasons alone: - JSON doesn't support storing binary data - a snapshot should be contained in a single file The UPB patch addresses the above. Vitaliy's patch does nothing to address > any of it. If one is going to be proposed as an alternative to the other, > it better solve the same problems as then some. The UBP patch is not an alternative - show me another hypervisor that uses JSON as their snapshot format. > The silence is real. No, it's not. I've given you feedback multiple times. --00000000000086fca1060089f0d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, July 15, 2023, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net> wrote:

We'll overlook the fact that it does attempt to consolidate files ( 2 v= s 3 ) and that there's no feedback requesting further consolidation aft= er being open for two years, but noted.

You= may as well abandon=C2=A0ht= tps://reviews.freebsd.org/D29262, for these reasons alone:
- JSON doesn't support storing binary data
- a s= napshot should be contained in a single file

The UPB patch addresses the above. Vitaliy's patch does nothing to addr= ess any of it. If one is going to be proposed as an alternative to the othe= r, it better solve the same problems as then some.

The UBP patch is not an alternative - show me another hypervisor th= at uses JSON as their snapshot format.
=C2=A0
The silence is real.

No, it's not. I= 9;ve given you feedback multiple times.
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