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[209.85.208.175]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-2e4d1515664sm16332461fa.93.2024.05.13.18.54.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 13 May 2024 18:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e576057c2bso40375961fa.1; Mon, 13 May 2024 18:54:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUdq88TCTk+tFmXHgC8IZMYPRZZt6eDw/1xa7JYY8Pk82hvy7VJFTXpn3hmMBe0MwE5ksDlbXtCvKLDihm7b3C4irYbSg92ptD8lZHPRg3wy+4GF7Y= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8014:0:b0:2e4:a8c3:7618 with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e51fd45319mr86891961fa.16.1715651659672; Mon, 13 May 2024 18:54:19 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0a3ddc685e54a289ff5cff569a95cd29@Leidinger.net> <5c7357c3-5a10-4a8e-9245-8a5787c57f35@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Ryan Libby Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 18:54:08 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bojan_Novkovi=C4=87?= , Current , alc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.929]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rlibby@freebsd.org,rlibby@gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.27)[-0.270]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[rlibby]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.174:from,209.85.208.175:received]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.174:from]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rlibby@freebsd.org,rlibby@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VdfYC3gGQz4NPd On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 2:36=E2=80=AFAM Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Am 2024-05-08 18:45, schrieb Bojan Novkovi=C4=87: > > Hi, > > > > On 5/7/24 14:02, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I created some graphs of the memory fragmentation. > >> https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2024/05/07/plotting-the-freebsd-memory-= fragmentation/ > >> > >> My goal was not comparing a specific change on a given benchmark, but > >> to "have something which visualizes memory fragmentation". As part of > >> that, Bojans commit > >> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D7a79d066976149349ecb90240d02= eed0c4268737 > >> was just in the middle of my data collection. I have the impression > >> that it made a positive difference in my non deterministic workload. > > Thank you for working on this, the plots look great! > > They provide a really clean visual overview of what's happening. > > I'm working on another type of memory visualization which might > > interest you, I'll share it with you once its done. > > One small nit - the fragmentation index does not quantify fragmentation > > for UMA buckets, but for page allocator freelists. > > Do I get it more correctly now: UMA buckets are type/structure specific > allocation lists, and the page allocator freelists are size-specific > allocation lists (which are used by UMA when no free item is available > in a bucket)? > Yeah, that's more correct. UMA is a higher level allocator than the vm phys free lists. The latter is what the proposed sysctl measures. That measurement is not directly related to UMA or how UMA allocates pages for most zones, except the handful of UMA_ZONE_CONTIG zones. Because otherwise, UMA doesn't explicitly do or require allocations of contiguous pages. Most allocations by UMA of backing pages are done as single pages from the perspective of the vm phys free lists. When possible (slab size of one page and machine architecture support) it then uses direct map addresses to refer to items. Otherwise the backing pages (single or multiple not-necessarily-contiguous) are mapped into kernel virtual address space. Re malloc(9), "small" (up to 64 KB) allocations are served from uma zone "buckets" of various sizes, while larger allocations skip UMA and allocate kmem directly in a similar way to how UMA does allocations for large slabs (as in multiple individual pages are mapped). UMA "buckets" in the sense of struct uma_bucket are caches of free items. For non-cache zones, if buckets are exhausted then UMA goes to slabs. If slabs are exhausted then UMA allocates pages. Pages will first be served from the page cache, before the vm phys free lists. That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is actually "vm phys free list order". That said, I find that dimension confusing because in fact there's just one piece of information there, the average size of a free list entry, and it doesn't actually depend on the free list order. The graph could be 2D. The paper that defines this fragmentation index also says that "the fragmentation index is only meaningful when an allocation fails". Are you actually seeing any contiguous allocations failures in your measurements? Without that context, it seems like what the proposed sysctl reports is indirectly just the average size of free list entries. We could just report that. > >> Is there anything which prevents https://reviews.freebsd.org/D40575 to > >> be committed? > > D40575 is closely tied to the compaction patch (D40772) which is > > currently on hold until another issue is solved (see D45046 and related > > revisions for more details). > > Any idea about https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16620 ? Is D45046 supposed > to replace this, or is it about something else? > I wanted to try D16620, but it doesn't apply and my naive/mechanical way > of applying it panics. > > > I didn't consider landing D40575 because of that, but I guess it could > > be useful on its own. > > It at least gives a way to quantify with numbers resp. qualitatively > visualize. And as such it may help in visualizing differences like with > your guard-pages commit. I wonder if the segregation of nofree > allocations may result in a similar improvement for long-running > systems. > > Bye, > Alexander. > > -- > http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander@Leidinger.net: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF > http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild@FreeBSD.org : PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF Ryan From nobody Tue May 14 08:14:22 2024 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vdq0653vJz5Kfy0 for ; Tue, 14 May 2024 08:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (bastille.leidinger.net [89.238.82.207]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Vdq060jHbz51WY; Tue, 14 May 2024 08:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1715674480; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ReX3wI9dnyp8OshXVYhw7QnZ+xHzAbU/EsMfuofxldA=; b=E6e//qxIkAItNvjRuyAt03NHBAFgn77+A9yWKnPBKrQ/ftOBJNDxLeFMTZ04AyWTP7u48o OMpBfnn2TRq3xf8aspEJktCD0wGLxVjgvcznqUmQsaJfuuq4fNYjvNd5wCkh0NS3Ess2L2 5VgB4u/htDTPuF7eqHnDUuuc4KpCpQi0+yrkWT254V+HHvKcEac9UkOu62JgAnpFhCKoRz WeHU73XffsJM/637HA7U7iLwjybW8XUtdWEnfYH2k7oJ86GJm8BWMVuol2DDu4AN9Fm4Xn gghxlyemW7t3vjwnEkWQrPk+uCVFoHxGzY57Z86Ex+n1VSI/C3CeGMHSfLtbRA== Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 10:14:22 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Ryan Libby Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bojan_Novkovi=C4=87?= , Current , alc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation In-Reply-To: References: <0a3ddc685e54a289ff5cff569a95cd29@Leidinger.net> <5c7357c3-5a10-4a8e-9245-8a5787c57f35@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <09dd93a8c9bf836f061413c30d0b14c6@Leidinger.net> Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_3317caf2e94c14a573bd9e0b5c0e31e1"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vdq060jHbz51WY This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_3317caf2e94c14a573bd9e0b5c0e31e1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Am 2024-05-14 03:54, schrieb Ryan Libby: > That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is > actually "vm phys free list order". > > That said, I find that dimension confusing because in fact there's > just one piece of information there, the average size of a free list > entry, and it doesn't actually depend on the free list order. The > graph could be 2D. It evolved into that... At first I had a 3 dimensional dataset and the first try was to plot it as is (3D). The outcome (as points) was not as good as I wanted it to be, and plotting as lines gave the wrong direction of lines. I massaged the plotting instructions until it looked good enough. I did not try a 2D plot. I agree, with different colors for each free list order a 2D plot may work too. If a 2D plot is better than a 3D plot in this case, depends on the mental model of the topic the viewer has. One size may not fit all. Feel free to experiment with other plotting styles. > The paper that defines this fragmentation index also says that "the > fragmentation index is only meaningful when an allocation fails". Are > you actually seeing any contiguous allocations failures in your > measurements? I'm not aware of such. The index may only be meaningful for the purposes of the goal of the paper when there are such failures, but if you look at the graph and how it changed when Bojan changed the guard pages, I see value in the graph for more than what the paper suggests. > Without that context, it seems like what the proposed sysctl reports > is indirectly just the average size of free list entries. We could > just report that. The calculation of the value is part of a bigger picture. The value returned is used by some other code to make decisions. 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[209.85.208.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-521f35ba351sm2186883e87.63.2024.05.14.09.09.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 May 2024 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f180.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e52181c228so45794551fa.0; Tue, 14 May 2024 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVMS2mEGFSF2mFyX70wcLsxjGtR2ZhQCXXlU5+rJeXBAHCaVy0STjLnIyaDNdMnH6nTnNHFy3s4TnJ539d+t+CXu9jpn5V9ol49pE5/y12XT3BJNu4= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8187:0:b0:2de:d4ef:af19 with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e51fd4306dmr89686521fa.10.1715702981432; Tue, 14 May 2024 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0a3ddc685e54a289ff5cff569a95cd29@Leidinger.net> <5c7357c3-5a10-4a8e-9245-8a5787c57f35@freebsd.org> <09dd93a8c9bf836f061413c30d0b14c6@Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <09dd93a8c9bf836f061413c30d0b14c6@Leidinger.net> From: Ryan Libby Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 09:09:30 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bojan_Novkovi=C4=87?= , Current , alc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vf1X81Q2Bz4nhf On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:14=E2=80=AFAM Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Am 2024-05-14 03:54, schrieb Ryan Libby: > > That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is > > actually "vm phys free list order". > > > > That said, I find that dimension confusing because in fact there's > > just one piece of information there, the average size of a free list > > entry, and it doesn't actually depend on the free list order. The > > graph could be 2D. > > It evolved into that... > At first I had a 3 dimensional dataset and the first try was to plot it > as is (3D). The outcome (as points) was not as good as I wanted it to > be, and plotting as lines gave the wrong direction of lines. I massaged > the plotting instructions until it looked good enough. I did not try a > 2D plot. I agree, with different colors for each free list order a 2D > plot may work too. If a 2D plot is better than a 3D plot in this case, > depends on the mental model of the topic the viewer has. One size may > not fit all. Feel free to experiment with other plotting styles. > What I mean is that the 13 values in the depth dimension (now "freelist size") are actually all showing the same information -- except for integer truncation issues and having clamped the negative values at -1000. Each index value for a given order completely determines the values for the other orders at a given time point. In the patch (D40575) this is return (1000 - ((info.free_pages * 1000) / (1 << order) / info.free_blocks)); but notice that free_pages and free_blocks don't depend on order, they are computed across all free list entries, of all orders, and are the same for a calculation for any order. So for example we could solve for the average free list entry size by taking the value from order of 0: index_0 =3D 1000 - 1000 / 1 * free_pages / free_blocks avg_pages =3D free_pages / free_blocks =3D -(index_0 - 1000) / 1000 and from that you can calculate all the other values. Or just display it directly. I'd suggest try plotting log2(avg_pages). In other words, I think just considering one value per time point is simpler and doesn't lose any information. > > The paper that defines this fragmentation index also says that "the > > fragmentation index is only meaningful when an allocation fails". Are > > you actually seeing any contiguous allocations failures in your > > measurements? > > I'm not aware of such. > The index may only be meaningful for the purposes of the goal of the > paper when there are such failures, but if you look at the graph and how > it changed when Bojan changed the guard pages, I see value in the graph > for more than what the paper suggests. > > > Without that context, it seems like what the proposed sysctl reports > > is indirectly just the average size of free list entries. We could > > just report that. > > The calculation of the value is part of a bigger picture. The value > returned is used by some other code to make decisions. > > Bye, > Alexander. > > -- > http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander@Leidinger.net: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF > http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild@FreeBSD.org : PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772BF Okay I see that D40772 uses it, but always passes order=3D9, and compares it with threshold=3D300. Rearranging, it asks if the average free list entry size is at least 1.4 MiB. Personally I'd prefer to consider values that are easy to interpret rather than an arbitrary index value. 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[209.85.208.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-2e4d0bbd6b3sm18786931fa.17.2024.05.14.10.18.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 May 2024 10:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f178.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2df83058d48so76127641fa.1; Tue, 14 May 2024 10:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUV6h6EFDKIqH4tY5n4kMsI4Tqg7rUzxkpVgU/67qtsBbFWWpzDr+FHnii3JnNe6YNwRMHAWtCJH+Ev8cPIT1QQtnpKzxPXs7ZtKQIcIyBTDljyXIU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8847:0:b0:2e2:2791:983e with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2e51fd451femr83157071fa.13.1715707109519; Tue, 14 May 2024 10:18:29 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0a3ddc685e54a289ff5cff569a95cd29@Leidinger.net> <5c7357c3-5a10-4a8e-9245-8a5787c57f35@freebsd.org> <09dd93a8c9bf836f061413c30d0b14c6@Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: From: Ryan Libby Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 10:18:18 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bojan_Novkovi=C4=87?= , Current , alc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.91 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.64)[-0.641]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.63)[0.631]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rlibby@freebsd.org,rlibby@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[rlibby]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.171:from,209.85.208.178:received]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rlibby@freebsd.org,rlibby@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.171:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vf33X35fdz3xGX On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 9:09=E2=80=AFAM Ryan Libby wro= te: > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:14=E2=80=AFAM Alexander Leidinger > wrote: > > > > Am 2024-05-14 03:54, schrieb Ryan Libby: > > > That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is > > > actually "vm phys free list order". > > > > > > That said, I find that dimension confusing because in fact there's > > > just one piece of information there, the average size of a free list > > > entry, and it doesn't actually depend on the free list order. The > > > graph could be 2D. > > > > It evolved into that... > > At first I had a 3 dimensional dataset and the first try was to plot it > > as is (3D). The outcome (as points) was not as good as I wanted it to > > be, and plotting as lines gave the wrong direction of lines. I massaged > > the plotting instructions until it looked good enough. I did not try a > > 2D plot. I agree, with different colors for each free list order a 2D > > plot may work too. If a 2D plot is better than a 3D plot in this case, > > depends on the mental model of the topic the viewer has. One size may > > not fit all. Feel free to experiment with other plotting styles. > > > > What I mean is that the 13 values in the depth dimension (now "freelist > size") are actually all showing the same information -- except for > integer truncation issues and having clamped the negative values at > -1000. Each index value for a given order completely determines the > values for the other orders at a given time point. > > In the patch (D40575) this is > return (1000 - > ((info.free_pages * 1000) / (1 << order) / info.free_blocks))= ; > but notice that free_pages and free_blocks don't depend on order, they > are computed across all free list entries, of all orders, and are the > same for a calculation for any order. So for example we could solve for > the average free list entry size by taking the value from order of 0: > index_0 =3D 1000 - 1000 / 1 * free_pages / free_blocks > avg_pages =3D free_pages / free_blocks =3D -(index_0 - 1000) / 10= 00 > and from that you can calculate all the other values. Or just display > it directly. I'd suggest try plotting log2(avg_pages). > > In other words, I think just considering one value per time point is > simpler and doesn't lose any information. > > > > The paper that defines this fragmentation index also says that "the > > > fragmentation index is only meaningful when an allocation fails". Ar= e > > > you actually seeing any contiguous allocations failures in your > > > measurements? > > > > I'm not aware of such. > > The index may only be meaningful for the purposes of the goal of the > > paper when there are such failures, but if you look at the graph and ho= w > > it changed when Bojan changed the guard pages, I see value in the graph > > for more than what the paper suggests. > > > > > Without that context, it seems like what the proposed sysctl reports > > > is indirectly just the average size of free list entries. We could > > > just report that. > > > > The calculation of the value is part of a bigger picture. The value > > returned is used by some other code to make decisions. > > > > Bye, > > Alexander. > > > > -- > > http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander@Leidinger.net: PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772B= F > > http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild@FreeBSD.org : PGP 0x8F31830F9F2772B= F > > Okay I see that D40772 uses it, but always passes order=3D9, and compares > it with threshold=3D300. 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Tue, 14 May 2024 17:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0A1B730A-263B-4B33-B531-726EE18DF1F3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) Subject: Re: pkg scripts need updating From: Enji Cooper In-Reply-To: <460bb5a7-ef14-4061-923f-fabc670442d8@protected-networks.net> Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 17:21:44 -0700 Cc: freebsd-current Message-Id: <302BC538-B4F1-4CE8-A70F-E087C282EAFE@gmail.com> References: <839c56b4-a87d-419f-8a04-fb16d8caf5b7@protected-networks.net> <460bb5a7-ef14-4061-923f-fabc670442d8@protected-networks.net> To: Michael Butler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; 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charset=utf-8 > On Apr 21, 2024, at 1:48=E2=80=AFPM, bob prohaska = wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 10:16:55PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav = wrote: >> bob prohaska writes: >>> Apr 20 22:14:37 www su[30398]: in prompt_tty(): caught signal 2 >>=20 >> This means someone ran `su` and pressed Ctrl-C instead of entering a >> password when prompted. >=20 > Ahh, that would have been me. Thank you! 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Wed, 15 May 2024 06:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <6dc13cd3-05a1-4443-abf5-84866e08d0ad@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 08:52:46 +0200 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: Stefan Esser Subject: Re: pkg scripts need updating References: <839c56b4-a87d-419f-8a04-fb16d8caf5b7@protected-networks.net> <460bb5a7-ef14-4061-923f-fabc670442d8@protected-networks.net> <302BC538-B4F1-4CE8-A70F-E087C282EAFE@gmail.com> Content-Language: de-DE To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: Michael Butler , Enji Cooper , freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <302BC538-B4F1-4CE8-A70F-E087C282EAFE@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 15.05.24 um 02:21 schrieb Enji Cooper: > >> On May 14, 2024, at 7:19 AM, Michael Butler wrote: >> >> After commit aa48259f337100e79933d660fec8856371f761ed to src which removed security_daily_compat_var, I get these warnings daily.. >> >> aaron.protected-networks.net login failures: >> >> aaron.protected-networks.net refused connections: >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/405.pkg-base-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/405.pkg-base-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/405.pkg-base-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/405.pkg-base-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/405.pkg-base-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> >> Checking for security vulnerabilities in base (userland & kernel): >> Database fetched: 2024-05-12T14:16-04:00 >> 0 problem(s) in 0 installed package(s) found. >> 0 problem(s) in 0 installed package(s) found. >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.pkg-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.pkg-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.pkg-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.pkg-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.pkg-audit: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> >> Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: >> Database fetched: 2024-05-12T14:16-04:00 >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/460.pkg-checksum: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/460.pkg-checksum: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/460.pkg-checksum: security_daily_compat_var: not found >> >> Checking for packages with mismatched checksums: > > Have you tried emailing the issue to the committer/filing a bug report to bring this to their attention? > Cheers, The messages are caused by running: /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/405.pkg-base-audit /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/460.pkg-checksum /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/410.pkg-audit These scripts have been installed by pkg-1.12.2 on my system ... 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A simple source file to demonstrate that. ``` # cat ctors.c #include __attribute__((constructor(101))) void init_101() { puts("init 1"); } __attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535() { puts("init 3"); = } __attribute__((constructor)) void init() { puts("init 4"); } __attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535_2() { puts("init = 5"); } __attribute__((constructor(65534))) void init_65534() { puts("init 2"); = } int main() { puts("main"); } __attribute__((destructor(65534))) void fini_65534() { puts("fini 2"); } __attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535() { puts("fini 3"); } __attribute__((destructor)) void fini() { puts("fini 4"); } __attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535_2() { puts("fini 5"); = } __attribute__((destructor(101))) void fini_101() { puts("fini 1"); } # clang ctors.c && ./a.out init 1 init 2 init 3 init 4 init 5 main fini 5 fini 4 fini 3 fini 2 fini 1 ``` clang with the option -fno-use-init-array and run will produce the same = result, which is what I expected. gcc13 from ports ``` # gcc ctors.c && ./a.out init 1 init 2 init 5 init 4 init 3 main fini 3 fini 4 fini 5 fini 2 fini 1 ``` The above order is not expected. I think clang's one is correct. Further hacking with readelf shows that clang produces the right order = of section .rela.ctors but gcc does not. ``` # clang -fno-use-init-array -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep = 'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > clang.txt # gcc -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section with = addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > gcc.txt # diff clang.txt gcc.txt 3,5c3,5 < 000000000000 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000060 = init_65535_2 + 0 < 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000040 init + = 0 < 000000000010 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000020 = init_65535 + 0 --- > 000000000000 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000011 = init_65535 + 0 > 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000022 init + = 0 > 000000000010 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000033 = init_65535_2 + 0 ``` The above show clearly gcc produces the wrong order of section = `.rela.ctors`. Is that expected behavior ? I have not tried Linux version of gcc. Best regards, Zhenlei From nobody Thu May 16 12:59:46 2024 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vg9DC5kRvz5LDLP for ; Thu, 16 May 2024 12:59:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Vg9DB3Nmjz4qq0 for ; Thu, 16 May 2024 12:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of david@catwhisker.org designates 107.204.234.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=david@catwhisker.org Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 44GCxkuY062994 for ; Thu, 16 May 2024 12:59:46 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 44GCxkLU062993 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 May 2024 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 05:59:46 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Panic: lock "lnxspin" 0xfffff800176c0730 already initialized Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Zo4n5mMthtCparB8" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.40 / 15.00]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[current@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vg9DB3Nmjz4qq0 --Zo4n5mMthtCparB8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is running main-n270174-abb1a1340e3f (built in-place from main-n270163-154ad8e0f88f), with ports at main-n663685-3f732745ab06; the ports-resident kernel modules were rebuilt with the kernel, courtesy (e.g.): g1-70(14.1-S)[4] grep '^PORT' /etc/src.conf PORTS_MODULES+=3Dgraphics/drm-61-kmod And since I dislike "sample sizes of one," I have this result on two different laptops, each of which has both Nvidia & Intel graphics (but for the older one (M4800), I stopped using (& building) the Nvidia driver, since enabling it appears to disable GLX). Anyway: photos of the backtraces are at https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/n270174/ as are copies of the build typescripts. Unfortunately, the panic message itself had (just) scrolled off the top at the time I took the photos, but I hand-typed it (from the M4800) in the Subject. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Please do not mistake "authoritarian" for "conservative" -- or vice versa. 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[209.85.167.51]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-523b7860398sm391273e87.117.2024.05.16.10.27.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f51.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-523b017a5c6so1721156e87.1; Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3b84:b0:51d:8842:f0b8 with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5220fc7c5bdmr22174298e87.13.1715880472645; Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ryan Libby Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:40 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Panic: lock "lnxspin" 0xfffff800176c0730 already initialized To: current@freebsd.org Cc: manu@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VgH9R6SxGz4R1X On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:00=E2=80=AFAM David Wolfskill wrote: > > This is running main-n270174-abb1a1340e3f (built in-place from > main-n270163-154ad8e0f88f), with ports at main-n663685-3f732745ab06; > the ports-resident kernel modules were rebuilt with the kernel, > courtesy (e.g.): > > g1-70(14.1-S)[4] grep '^PORT' /etc/src.conf > PORTS_MODULES+=3Dgraphics/drm-61-kmod > > And since I dislike "sample sizes of one," I have this result on > two different laptops, each of which has both Nvidia & Intel graphics > (but for the older one (M4800), I stopped using (& building) the > Nvidia driver, since enabling it appears to disable GLX). > > Anyway: photos of the backtraces are at > https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/n270174/ > as are copies of the build typescripts. > > Unfortunately, the panic message itself had (just) scrolled off the > top at the time I took the photos, but I hand-typed it (from the > M4800) in the Subject. > > Peace, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > Please do not mistake "authoritarian" for "conservative" -- or vice versa= . > > See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. Maybe regression from ae38a1a1bfdf320089c254e4dbffdf4769d89110 by manu. It looks like spin_lock_init was changed to no longer zero out the mutex before calling mtx_init, but the MTX_NEW flag was not added. Ryan From nobody Thu May 16 18:26:37 2024 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VgJTR4RnKz5Lfrj for ; Thu, 16 May 2024 18:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VgJTR1Snqz4Xmd; Thu, 16 May 2024 18:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 44GIQbtP012726; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:26:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 44GIQbtP012726 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 44GIQbUb012725; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:26:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 21:26:37 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Zhenlei Huang Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: gcc behavior of init priority of .ctors and .dtors section Message-ID: References: <3ECF8C28-D2D9-4212-B025-3EC64E46BADC@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ECF8C28-D2D9-4212-B025-3EC64E46BADC@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on tom.home X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VgJTR1Snqz4Xmd On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 08:06:46PM +0800, Zhenlei Huang wrote: > Hi, > > I'm recently working on https://reviews.freebsd.org/D45194 and got noticed > that gcc behaves weirdly. > > A simple source file to demonstrate that. > > ``` > # cat ctors.c > > #include > > __attribute__((constructor(101))) void init_101() { puts("init 1"); } > __attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535() { puts("init 3"); } > __attribute__((constructor)) void init() { puts("init 4"); } > __attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535_2() { puts("init 5"); } > __attribute__((constructor(65534))) void init_65534() { puts("init 2"); } > > int main() { puts("main"); } > > __attribute__((destructor(65534))) void fini_65534() { puts("fini 2"); } > __attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535() { puts("fini 3"); } > __attribute__((destructor)) void fini() { puts("fini 4"); } > __attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535_2() { puts("fini 5"); } > __attribute__((destructor(101))) void fini_101() { puts("fini 1"); } > > # clang ctors.c && ./a.out > init 1 > init 2 > init 3 > init 4 > init 5 > main > fini 5 > fini 4 > fini 3 > fini 2 > fini 1 > ``` > > clang with the option -fno-use-init-array and run will produce the same result, which > is what I expected. Why do you add that switch? > > gcc13 from ports > ``` > # gcc ctors.c && ./a.out > init 1 > init 2 > init 5 > init 4 > init 3 > main > fini 3 > fini 4 > fini 5 > fini 2 > fini 1 > ``` > > The above order is not expected. I think clang's one is correct. > > Further hacking with readelf shows that clang produces the right order of > section .rela.ctors but gcc does not. > > ``` > # clang -fno-use-init-array -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > clang.txt > # gcc -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > gcc.txt > # diff clang.txt gcc.txt > 3,5c3,5 > < 000000000000 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000060 init_65535_2 + 0 > < 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000040 init + 0 > < 000000000010 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000020 init_65535 + 0 > --- > > 000000000000 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000011 init_65535 + 0 > > 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000022 init + 0 > > 000000000010 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000033 init_65535_2 + 0 > ``` > > The above show clearly gcc produces the wrong order of section `.rela.ctors`. > > Is that expected behavior ? > > I have not tried Linux version of gcc. Note that init array vs. init function behavior is encoded by a note added by crt1.o. I suspect that the problem is that gcc port is built without --enable-initfini-array configure option. 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I was able to reproduce the problem and also noticed another one. I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not beautiful to navigate through items this way. On 14.1-BETA2 it shows multiple lines so it seems to be a regression. The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it just starts over instead of asking for password. I made a video [1] showing the problem. Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person making changes in this area. If it's not related and I made a mistake, just ignore me. 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I was able to = reproduce the problem and also noticed another one. >=20 > I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not = beautiful to navigate through items this way. On 14.1-BETA2 it shows = multiple lines so it seems to be a regression. >=20 > The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it = just starts over instead of asking for password. I made a video [1] = showing the problem. >=20 > Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person = making changes in this area. If it's not related and I made a mistake, = just ignore me. Hi Renato, I touched the code that lets you select the wireless interface in the first place, but not the script that then gets called to set it up and is responsible for the dialogs you see. Given the behaviour, I wonder if this is what today=E2=80=99s import of bsddialog[1] fixes? =46rom = reading the script the next dialog uses --mixedform, and restarts the script on error, which it looks like is what you observe. 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I was able to reproduce the problem and also noticed another one. >> >> I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not beautiful to navigate through items this way. On 14.1-BETA2 it shows multiple lines so it seems to be a regression. >> >> The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it just starts over instead of asking for password. I made a video [1] showing the problem. >> >> Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person making changes in this area. If it's not related and I made a mistake, just ignore me. > > Hi Renato, > I touched the code that lets you select the wireless interface in the > first place, but not the script that then gets called to set it up and > is responsible for the dialogs you see. Given the behaviour, I wonder > if this is what today’s import of bsddialog[1] fixes? From reading the > script the next dialog uses --mixedform, and restarts the script on > error, which it looks like is what you observe. Thanks for pointing that out, Jessica. I'll wait for the next 15 snapshot and will check. 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The right email address is info@aktionheizung.de Pay information exclusively to this email address. Thanks --------------------------------------------- On 16 May 2024, at 19:40, Renato Botelho wrote: > I saw some users on a .br group complaining bsdinstall was failing to setup wifi network on 15.0 snapshots and tried it myself. I was able to reproduce the problem and also noticed another one. > > I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not beautiful to navigate through items this way. On 14.1-BETA2 it shows multiple lines so it seems to be a regression. > > The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it just starts over instead of asking for password. I made a video [1] showing the problem. > > Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person making changes in this area. If it's not related and I made a mistake, just ignore me. Hi Renato, I touched the code that lets you select the wireless interface in the first place, but not the script that then gets called to set it up and is responsible for the dialogs you see. Given the behaviour, I wonder if this is what today’s import of bsddialog[1] fixes? From reading the script the next dialog uses --mixedform, and restarts the script on error, which it looks like is what you observe. Jess [1]https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=a6d8be451f62d425b71a4874f7d4e133b9fb393c > [1]https://youtube.com/shorts/Gmeckokw2a0 > -- > Renato Botelho --------------RorOb4lX52xpnp2MZ1aPo50V Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

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On 16 May 2024, at 19:40, Renato Botelho <garga@FreeBSD.org> wrote: 
I saw some users on a .br group complaining bsdinstall was failing to setup wifi network on 15.0 snapshots and tried it myself.  I was able to reproduce the problem and also noticed another one.

I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not beautiful to navigate through items this way.  On 14.1-BETA2 it shows multiple lines so it seems to be a regression.

The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it just starts over instead of asking for password.  I made a video [1] showing the problem.

Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person making changes in this area.  If it's not related and I made a mistake, just ignore me.

Hi Renato,
I touched the code that lets you select the wireless interface in the
first place, but not the script that then gets called to set it up and
is responsible for the dialogs you see. Given the behaviour, I wonder
if this is what today’s import of bsddialog[1] fixes? From reading the
script the next dialog uses --mixedform, and restarts the script on
error, which it looks like is what you observe.

Jess

[1] https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=a6d8be451f62d425b71a4874f7d4e133b9fb393c


[1] https://youtube.com/shorts/Gmeckokw2a0
-- 
Renato Botelho


    

  


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Hello Renato,

I will give it a try this weekend with bhyve since I have a passtrhu for
iwlwifi card.

Cheers,

Renato Botelho  escreveu (quinta, 16/05/2024 =C3=A0(s) 1=
9:56):

> On 16/05/24 15:47, Jessica Clarke wrote:
> > On 16 May 2024, at 19:40, Renato Botelho  wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw some users on a .br group complaining bsdinstall was failing to
> setup wifi network on 15.0 snapshots and tried it myself.  I was able to
> reproduce the problem and also noticed another one.
> >>
> >> I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not
> beautiful to navigate through items this way.  On 14.1-BETA2 it shows
> multiple lines so it seems to be a regression.
> >>
> >> The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it jus=
t
> starts over instead of asking for password.  I made a video [1] showing t=
he
> problem.
> >>
> >> Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person
> making changes in this area.  If it's not related and I made a mistake,
> just ignore me.
> >
> > Hi Renato,
> > I touched the code that lets you select the wireless interface in the
> > first place, but not the script that then gets called to set it up and
> > is responsible for the dialogs you see. Given the behaviour, I wonder
> > if this is what today=E2=80=99s import of bsddialog[1] fixes? From read=
ing the
> > script the next dialog uses --mixedform, and restarts the script on
> > error, which it looks like is what you observe.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out, Jessica.  I'll wait for the next 15
> snapshot and will check.
>
> I'm not sure about a good way to test it on a running system instead.
>
> --
> Renato Botelho
>
>

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Nuno Teixeira
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Hello Renato,

I will give it a try =
this weekend with bhyve since I have a passtrhu for iwlwifi card.

Cheers,

Renato Botelho <gar=
ga@freebsd.org> escreveu (quinta, 16/05/2024 =C3=A0(s) 19:56):
On 16/05/24 15:47, Je=
ssica Clarke wrote:

> On 16 May 2024, at 19:40, Renato Botelho <garga@FreeBSD.org> wro=
te:

>>

>> I saw some users on a .br group complaining bsdinstall was failing=
 to setup wifi network on 15.0 snapshots and tried it myself.=C2=A0 I was a=
ble to reproduce the problem and also noticed another one.

>>

>> I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's n=
ot beautiful to navigate through items this way.=C2=A0 On 14.1-BETA2 it sho=
ws multiple lines so it seems to be a regression.

>>

>> The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it=
 just starts over instead of asking for password.=C2=A0 I made a video [1] =
showing the problem.

>>

>> Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last=
 person making changes in this area.=C2=A0 If it's not related and I ma=
de a mistake, just ignore me.

> 

> Hi Renato,

> I touched the code that lets you select the wireless interface in the<=
br>
> first place, but not the script that then gets called to set it up and=


> is responsible for the dialogs you see. Given the behaviour, I wonder<=
br>
> if this is what today=E2=80=99s import of bsddialog[1] fixes? From rea=
ding the

> script the next dialog uses --mixedform, and restarts the script on
> error, which it looks like is what you observe.



Thanks for pointing that out, Jessica.=C2=A0 I'll wait for the next 15 =


snapshot and will check.



I'm not sure about a good way to test it on a running system instead.


-- 

Renato Botelho






-- 
Nuno Teixeira

FreeBSD UNIX:=C2=A0 <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Web:=C2=A0 https://Fr=
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On Thursday, May 16th, 2024 at 20:26, Konstantin Belousov  wrote:
> > gcc13 from ports
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3 fini 4 fini 5 fini 2 fini 1`
> >=20
> > The above order is not expected. I think clang's one is correct.
> >=20
> > Further hacking with readelf shows that clang produces the right order =
of
> > section .rela.ctors but gcc does not.
> >=20
> > ```
> > # clang -fno-use-init-array -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Re=
location section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > clang.txt
> > # gcc -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section with =
addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > gcc.txt
> > # diff clang.txt gcc.txt
> > 3,5c3,5
> > < 000000000000 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000060 init_65535_2 +=
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> > < 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000040 init + 0
> > < 000000000010 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000020 init_65535 + 0
> > ---
> >=20
> > > 000000000000 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000011 init_65535 + 0
> > > 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000022 init + 0
> > > 000000000010 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000033 init_65535_2 +=
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> > > ```
> >=20
> > The above show clearly gcc produces the wrong order of section `.rela.c=
tors`.
> >=20
> > Is that expected behavior ?
> >=20
> > I have not tried Linux version of gcc.
>=20
> Note that init array vs. init function behavior is encoded by a note adde=
d
> by crt1.o. I suspect that the problem is that gcc port is built without
> --enable-initfini-array configure option.

Indeed, support for .init_array and .fini_array has been added to the GCC p=
orts
but is present in the *-devel ports only for now. I will
soon proceed to enable it for the GCC standard ports too. lang/gcc14 is soo=
n
to be added to the ports tree and will have it since the beginning.

If this is indeed the issue, switching to a -devel GCC port should fix it.

Cheers,

Lorenzo Salvadore

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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 08:05:57PM +0000, Lorenzo Salvadore wrote:
> On Thursday, May 16th, 2024 at 20:26, Konstantin Belousov  wrote:
> > > gcc13 from ports
> > > `# gcc ctors.c && ./a.out init 1 init 2 init 5 init 4 init 3 main fini 3 fini 4 fini 5 fini 2 fini 1`
> > > 
> > > The above order is not expected. I think clang's one is correct.
> > > 
> > > Further hacking with readelf shows that clang produces the right order of
> > > section .rela.ctors but gcc does not.
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > # clang -fno-use-init-array -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > clang.txt
> > > # gcc -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > gcc.txt
> > > # diff clang.txt gcc.txt
> > > 3,5c3,5
> > > < 000000000000 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000060 init_65535_2 + 0
> > > < 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000040 init + 0
> > > < 000000000010 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000020 init_65535 + 0
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > > 000000000000 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000011 init_65535 + 0
> > > > 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000022 init + 0
> > > > 000000000010 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 0000000000000033 init_65535_2 + 0
> > > > ```
> > > 
> > > The above show clearly gcc produces the wrong order of section `.rela.ctors`.
> > > 
> > > Is that expected behavior ?
> > > 
> > > I have not tried Linux version of gcc.
> > 
> > Note that init array vs. init function behavior is encoded by a note added
> > by crt1.o. I suspect that the problem is that gcc port is built without
> > --enable-initfini-array configure option.
> 
> Indeed, support for .init_array and .fini_array has been added to the GCC ports
> but is present in the *-devel ports only for now. I will
> soon proceed to enable it for the GCC standard ports too. lang/gcc14 is soon
> to be added to the ports tree and will have it since the beginning.
It is not 'support', but a bug.  For very long time, crt1.o instructs rtld
to use initarray instead of initfunc.  gcc generates broken binaries trying
to use initfunc.

> 
> If this is indeed the issue, switching to a -devel GCC port should fix it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lorenzo Salvadore

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Subject: Re: bsdinstall wifi setup is broken on CURRENT
In-Reply-To: <608e500d-3756-4e6f-835a-fd5669be0b78@FreeBSD.org> (Renato
	Botelho's message of "Thu, 16 May 2024 15:56:30 -0300")
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Renato Botelho  writes:
> I'm not sure about a good way to test it on a running system instead.

Update your source tree, build and install world, run `sudo bsdconfig`,
scroll down and select =E2=80=9CNetwork Management=E2=80=9D, then select =
=E2=80=9CWireless
Networks=E2=80=9D.

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Subject: Re: gcc behavior of init priority of .ctors and .dtors section
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 09:28:13 +0800
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To: Konstantin Belousov 
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> On May 17, 2024, at 2:26 AM, Konstantin Belousov  =
wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 08:06:46PM +0800, Zhenlei Huang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I'm recently working on https://reviews.freebsd.org/D45194 and got =
noticed
>> that gcc behaves weirdly.
>>=20
>> A simple source file to demonstrate that.
>>=20
>> ```
>> # cat ctors.c
>>=20
>> #include 
>>=20
>> __attribute__((constructor(101))) void init_101() { puts("init 1"); }
>> __attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535() { puts("init =
3"); }
>> __attribute__((constructor)) void init() { puts("init 4"); }
>> __attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535_2() { puts("init =
5"); }
>> __attribute__((constructor(65534))) void init_65534() { puts("init =
2"); }
>>=20
>> int main() { puts("main"); }
>>=20
>> __attribute__((destructor(65534))) void fini_65534() { puts("fini =
2"); }
>> __attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535() { puts("fini =
3"); }
>> __attribute__((destructor)) void fini() { puts("fini 4"); }
>> __attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535_2() { puts("fini =
5"); }
>> __attribute__((destructor(101))) void fini_101() { puts("fini 1"); }
>>=20
>> # clang ctors.c && ./a.out
>> init 1
>> init 2
>> init 3
>> init 4
>> init 5
>> main
>> fini 5
>> fini 4
>> fini 3
>> fini 2
>> fini 1
>> ```
>>=20
>> clang with the option -fno-use-init-array and run will produce the =
same result, which
>> is what I expected.
> Why do you add that switch?

gcc13 in ports is not configured with option --enable-initfini-array =
then it only produces .ctors / .dtors sections but
not .init_array / .fini_array sections. So I add that switch for clang =
to produce `.ctors` sections instead as
a baseline ( .ctors produced by clang indeed works as expected, the same =
with .init_array ).

>=20
>>=20
>> gcc13 from ports
>> ```
>> # gcc ctors.c && ./a.out
>> init 1
>> init 2
>> init 5
>> init 4
>> init 3
>> main
>> fini 3
>> fini 4
>> fini 5
>> fini 2
>> fini 1
>> ```
>>=20
>> The above order is not expected. I think clang's one is correct.
>>=20
>> Further hacking with readelf shows that clang produces the right =
order of
>> section .rela.ctors but gcc does not.
>>=20
>> ```
>> # clang -fno-use-init-array -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep =
'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > clang.txt
>> # gcc -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep 'Relocation section =
with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > gcc.txt
>> # diff clang.txt gcc.txt
>> 3,5c3,5
>> < 000000000000 000800000001 R_X86_64_64         0000000000000060 =
init_65535_2 + 0
>> < 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64         0000000000000040 init =
+ 0
>> < 000000000010 000600000001 R_X86_64_64         0000000000000020 =
init_65535 + 0
>> ---
>>> 000000000000 000600000001 R_X86_64_64         0000000000000011 =
init_65535 + 0
>>> 000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64         0000000000000022 init =
+ 0
>>> 000000000010 000800000001 R_X86_64_64         0000000000000033 =
init_65535_2 + 0
>> ```
>>=20
>> The above show clearly gcc produces the wrong order of section =
`.rela.ctors`.
>>=20
>> Is that expected behavior ?
>>=20
>> I have not tried Linux version of gcc.
> Note that init array vs. init function behavior is encoded by a note =
added
> by crt1.o.  I suspect that the problem is that gcc port is built =
without
> --enable-initfini-array configure option.




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On May 17, 2024, at 2:26 AM, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>=
 wrote:

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 08:06:46PM +0800, Zhenlei Huang =
wrote:
Hi,

I'm recently working on https://reviews.freebsd.org/D45194 and got noticed
that gcc behaves weirdly.

A =
simple source file to demonstrate that.

```
# cat ctors.c

#include <stdio.h>

__attribute__((constructor(101))) void init_101() { =
puts("init 1"); }
__attribute__((constructor(65535))) void =
init_65535() { puts("init 3"); }
__attribute__((constructor)) void init() { puts("init 4"); =
}
__attribute__((constructor(65535))) void init_65535_2() =
{ puts("init 5"); }
__attribute__((constructor(65534))) =
void init_65534() { puts("init 2"); }

int =
main() { puts("main"); }

__attribute__((destructor(65534))) void fini_65534() { =
puts("fini 2"); }
__attribute__((destructor(65535))) void =
fini_65535() { puts("fini 3"); }
__attribute__((destructor))=
 void fini() { puts("fini 4"); }
__attribute__((destructor(65535))) void fini_65535_2() { =
puts("fini 5"); }
__attribute__((destructor(101))) void =
fini_101() { puts("fini 1"); }

# clang =
ctors.c && ./a.out
init 1
init 2
init 3
init 4
init 5
main
fini 5
fini 4
fini 3
fini 2
fini 1
```

clang with the option =
-fno-use-init-array and run will produce the same result, which
is what I expected.
Why do you =
add that switch?

gcc13 in ports is not configured with option =
--enable-initfini-array then it only produces .ctors / .dtors sections =
but
not .init_array / .fini_array sections. So I add that =
switch for clang to produce `.ctors` sections instead as
a =
baseline ( .ctors produced by clang indeed works as expected, the same =
with .init_array ).



gcc13 from ports
```
# gcc ctors.c && ./a.out
init 1
init 2
init 5
init 4
init 3
main
fini 3
fini 4
fini 5
fini 2
fini 1
```
The above order is not expected. I think clang's one is =
correct.

Further hacking with readelf shows =
that clang produces the right order of
section .rela.ctors =
but gcc does not.

```
# clang =
-fno-use-init-array -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep =
'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > clang.txt
# gcc -c ctors.c && readelf -r ctors.o | grep =
'Relocation section with addend (.rela.ctors)' -A5 > gcc.txt
# diff clang.txt gcc.txt
3,5c3,5
< 000000000000 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 =
        0000000000000060 =
init_65535_2 + 0
< 000000000008 000700000001 =
R_X86_64_64 =
        0000000000000040 init + =
0
< 000000000010 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 =
        0000000000000020 =
init_65535 + 0
---
000000000000 000600000001 R_X86_64_64 =
        0000000000000011 =
init_65535 + 0
000000000008 000700000001 R_X86_64_64 =
        0000000000000022 init + =
0
000000000010 000800000001 R_X86_64_64 =
        0000000000000033 =
init_65535_2 + 0
```

The above show clearly gcc produces the wrong order of =
section `.rela.ctors`.

Is that expected =
behavior ?

I have not tried Linux version =
of gcc.
Note that init array vs. init function behavior is encoded by =
a note added
by crt1.o. =
 I suspect that the problem is that gcc port is built =
without
--enable-initfini-array configure =
option.









=

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To: Ryan Libby 
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Subject: Re: Panic: lock "lnxspin" 0xfffff800176c0730 already initialized
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On Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:40 -0700
Ryan Libby  wrote:

> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:00?AM David Wolfskill  wr=
ote:
> >
> > This is running main-n270174-abb1a1340e3f (built in-place from
> > main-n270163-154ad8e0f88f), with ports at main-n663685-3f732745ab06;
> > the ports-resident kernel modules were rebuilt with the kernel,
> > courtesy (e.g.):
> >
> > g1-70(14.1-S)[4] grep '^PORT' /etc/src.conf
> > PORTS_MODULES+=3Dgraphics/drm-61-kmod
> >
> > And since I dislike "sample sizes of one," I have this result on
> > two different laptops, each of which has both Nvidia & Intel graphics
> > (but for the older one (M4800), I stopped using (& building) the
> > Nvidia driver, since enabling it appears to disable GLX).
> >
> > Anyway: photos of the backtraces are at
> > https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/n270174/
> > as are copies of the build typescripts.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the panic message itself had (just) scrolled off the
> > top at the time I took the photos, but I hand-typed it (from the
> > M4800) in the Subject.
> >
> > Peace,
> > david
> > --
> > David H. Wolfskill                              david@catwhisker.org
> > Please do not mistake "authoritarian" for "conservative" -- or vice ver=
sa.
> >
> > See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key.
>=20
> Maybe regression from ae38a1a1bfdf320089c254e4dbffdf4769d89110 by manu.
>=20
> It looks like spin_lock_init was changed to no longer zero out the
> mutex before calling mtx_init, but the MTX_NEW flag was not added.
>=20
> Ryan
>=20

Could be, I cannot reproduce this here (either with i915kms or amdgpu)
but I guess that depending on the hardware version or number of screens
etc ... code path is different and might trigger this.
 David can you test with
https://people.freebsd.org/~manu/0001-linuxkpi-Fix-spin_lock_init.patch
just to be sure that it fixes this issue ?

 Cheers,

--=20
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 9:56=E2=80=AFPM Emmanuel Vadot  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:40 -0700
> Ryan Libby  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:00?AM David Wolfskill  =
wrote:
> > >
> > > This is running main-n270174-abb1a1340e3f (built in-place from
> > > main-n270163-154ad8e0f88f), with ports at main-n663685-3f732745ab06;
> > > the ports-resident kernel modules were rebuilt with the kernel,
> > > courtesy (e.g.):
> > >
> > > g1-70(14.1-S)[4] grep '^PORT' /etc/src.conf
> > > PORTS_MODULES+=3Dgraphics/drm-61-kmod
> > >
> > > And since I dislike "sample sizes of one," I have this result on
> > > two different laptops, each of which has both Nvidia & Intel graphics
> > > (but for the older one (M4800), I stopped using (& building) the
> > > Nvidia driver, since enabling it appears to disable GLX).
> > >
> > > Anyway: photos of the backtraces are at
> > > https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/n270174/
> > > as are copies of the build typescripts.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the panic message itself had (just) scrolled off the
> > > top at the time I took the photos, but I hand-typed it (from the
> > > M4800) in the Subject.
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > david
> > > --
> > > David H. Wolfskill                              david@catwhisker.org
> > > Please do not mistake "authoritarian" for "conservative" -- or vice v=
ersa.
> > >
> > > See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key=
.
> >
> > Maybe regression from ae38a1a1bfdf320089c254e4dbffdf4769d89110 by manu.
> >
> > It looks like spin_lock_init was changed to no longer zero out the
> > mutex before calling mtx_init, but the MTX_NEW flag was not added.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
>
> Could be, I cannot reproduce this here (either with i915kms or amdgpu)
> but I guess that depending on the hardware version or number of screens
> etc ... code path is different and might trigger this.
>  David can you test with
> https://people.freebsd.org/~manu/0001-linuxkpi-Fix-spin_lock_init.patch
> just to be sure that it fixes this issue ?
>
>  Cheers,
>
> --
> Emmanuel Vadot  

It may depend on getting lucky with the uninitialized junk too, and you wou=
ld
need a kernel with KASSERTs enabled.

manu, I think the rwlock patch 5c0a1923486e65cd47398e52c03cb289d6120a78
may need the same treatment with RW_NEW.

Ryan

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On Thu, 16 May 2024 22:10:16 -0700
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> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 9:56?PM Emmanuel Vadot  wr=
ote:
> >
> > On Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:40 -0700
> > Ryan Libby  wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:00?AM David Wolfskill  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is running main-n270174-abb1a1340e3f (built in-place from
> > > > main-n270163-154ad8e0f88f), with ports at main-n663685-3f732745ab06;
> > > > the ports-resident kernel modules were rebuilt with the kernel,
> > > > courtesy (e.g.):
> > > >
> > > > g1-70(14.1-S)[4] grep '^PORT' /etc/src.conf
> > > > PORTS_MODULES+=3Dgraphics/drm-61-kmod
> > > >
> > > > And since I dislike "sample sizes of one," I have this result on
> > > > two different laptops, each of which has both Nvidia & Intel graphi=
cs
> > > > (but for the older one (M4800), I stopped using (& building) the
> > > > Nvidia driver, since enabling it appears to disable GLX).
> > > >
> > > > Anyway: photos of the backtraces are at
> > > > https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/head/n270174/
> > > > as are copies of the build typescripts.
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, the panic message itself had (just) scrolled off the
> > > > top at the time I took the photos, but I hand-typed it (from the
> > > > M4800) in the Subject.
> > > >
> > > > Peace,
> > > > david
> > > > --
> > > > David H. Wolfskill                              david@catwhisker.org
> > > > Please do not mistake "authoritarian" for "conservative" -- or vice=
 versa.
> > > >
> > > > See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public k=
ey.
> > >
> > > Maybe regression from ae38a1a1bfdf320089c254e4dbffdf4769d89110 by man=
u.
> > >
> > > It looks like spin_lock_init was changed to no longer zero out the
> > > mutex before calling mtx_init, but the MTX_NEW flag was not added.
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> >
> > Could be, I cannot reproduce this here (either with i915kms or amdgpu)
> > but I guess that depending on the hardware version or number of screens
> > etc ... code path is different and might trigger this.
> >  David can you test with
> > https://people.freebsd.org/~manu/0001-linuxkpi-Fix-spin_lock_init.patch
> > just to be sure that it fixes this issue ?
> >
> >  Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Emmanuel Vadot  
>=20
> It may depend on getting lucky with the uninitialized junk too, and you w=
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> need a kernel with KASSERTs enabled.
>=20
> manu, I think the rwlock patch 5c0a1923486e65cd47398e52c03cb289d6120a78
> may need the same treatment with RW_NEW.
>=20
> Ryan
>=20

 Indeed, even if I know that I tested with GENERIC and amdgpu I think
that I've only tested GENERIC-NODEBUG with i915kms.
 Anyway, I've pushed both patches now. Sorry for the breakage.

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--=20
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Hello,

tpm kernel module fails to load starting on main from May 9.
Updated today and same error:

```
$ kldload tpm
kldload: an error occurred while loading module tpm. Please check dmesg(8)
for more details.

(dmesg)
link_elf_obj: symbol tpm_bus_driver undefined
linker_load_file: /boot/kernel/tpm.ko - unsupported file type
```

I believe it is related to:

---
commit 10eea8dc8c4f3d2a3495e7fb08837d91adf465e9
Author: Justin Hibbits 
Date:   Thu May 9 15:27:35 2024 -0400

    tpm20: Support partial reads

    Summary:
    In some cases the TPM utilities may read only a partial block, instead
    of a full block.  If a new command starts while in the middle of a read
    it may cause the TPM to go catatonic and no longer respond to SPI.

    Reviewed by:    kd
    Obtained from:  Juniper Networks, Inc.
    Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D45140
---

I use tpm for bhyve/Win11.

Thanks,
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Hello,

tpm kernel module fai=
ls to load starting on main from May 9.
Updated today and same er=
ror:

```
$ kldload tpm
kld=
load: an error occurred while loading module tpm. Please check dmesg(8) for=
 more details.

(dmesg)
link_elf_obj: sym=
bol tpm_bus_driver undefined
linker_load_file: /boot/kernel/tpm.ko - uns=
upported file type
```

I believe it is r=
elated to:

---
commit 10eea8dc8c4f3d=
2a3495e7fb08837d91adf465e9
Author: Justin Hibbits <jhibbits@FreeBSD.o=
rg>
Date: =C2=A0 Thu May 9 15:27:35 2024 -0400

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 t=
pm20: Support partial reads

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Summary:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
In some cases the TPM utilities may read only a partial block, instead
=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 of a full block.=C2=A0 If a new command starts while in the m=
iddle of a read
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 it may cause the TPM to go catatonic and n=
o longer respond to SPI.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Reviewed by: =C2=A0 =C2=A0kd<=
br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Obtained from: =C2=A0Juniper Networks, Inc.
=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 Differential Revision: h=
ttps://reviews.freebsd.org/D45140
---

I use tpm for bhyve/Win11.

Thanks,
-- 
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On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 08:00:05AM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
> ...
>  Indeed, even if I know that I tested with GENERIC and amdgpu I think
> that I've only tested GENERIC-NODEBUG with i915kms.
>  Anyway, I've pushed both patches now. Sorry for the breakage.
>=20
>  Cheers,
> ....

Success:

g1-70(15.0-C)[1] uname -aUK
FreeBSD g1-70.catwhisker.org 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #147 main-n2=
70199-cd3681011001: Fri May 17 11:10:47 UTC 2024     root@g1-70.catwhisker.=
org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY amd64 1500018 1500018

Thank you! :-)

Peace,
david
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 11:09:00 +0100
Nuno Teixeira  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> tpm kernel module fails to load starting on main from May 9.
> Updated today and same error:
> 
> ```
> $ kldload tpm
> kldload: an error occurred while loading module tpm. Please check
> dmesg(8) for more details.
> 
> (dmesg)
> link_elf_obj: symbol tpm_bus_driver undefined
> linker_load_file: /boot/kernel/tpm.ko - unsupported file type
> ```
> 
> I believe it is related to:
> 
> ---
> commit 10eea8dc8c4f3d2a3495e7fb08837d91adf465e9
> Author: Justin Hibbits 
> Date:   Thu May 9 15:27:35 2024 -0400
> 
>     tpm20: Support partial reads
> 
>     Summary:
>     In some cases the TPM utilities may read only a partial block,
> instead of a full block.  If a new command starts while in the middle
> of a read it may cause the TPM to go catatonic and no longer respond
> to SPI.
> 
>     Reviewed by:    kd
>     Obtained from:  Juniper Networks, Inc.
>     Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D45140
> ---
> 
> I use tpm for bhyve/Win11.
> 
> Thanks,

Sorry for the breakage.  Should be fixed by 62adeb92.

- Justin

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Working fine!

Thanks for fast fix.

Justin Hibbits  escreveu (sexta, 17/05/2024 =C3=A0(s)
13:57):

> On Fri, 17 May 2024 11:09:00 +0100
> Nuno Teixeira  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > tpm kernel module fails to load starting on main from May 9.
> > Updated today and same error:
> >
> > ```
> > $ kldload tpm
> > kldload: an error occurred while loading module tpm. Please check
> > dmesg(8) for more details.
> >
> > (dmesg)
> > link_elf_obj: symbol tpm_bus_driver undefined
> > linker_load_file: /boot/kernel/tpm.ko - unsupported file type
> > ```
> >
> > I believe it is related to:
> >
> > ---
> > commit 10eea8dc8c4f3d2a3495e7fb08837d91adf465e9
> > Author: Justin Hibbits 
> > Date:   Thu May 9 15:27:35 2024 -0400
> >
> >     tpm20: Support partial reads
> >
> >     Summary:
> >     In some cases the TPM utilities may read only a partial block,
> > instead of a full block.  If a new command starts while in the middle
> > of a read it may cause the TPM to go catatonic and no longer respond
> > to SPI.
> >
> >     Reviewed by:    kd
> >     Obtained from:  Juniper Networks, Inc.
> >     Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D45140
> > ---
> >
> > I use tpm for bhyve/Win11.
> >
> > Thanks,
>
> Sorry for the breakage.  Should be fixed by 62adeb92.
>
> - Justin
>


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Working fine!

Thanks for fas=
t fix.

Justin Hibbits <=
jhibbits@freebsd.org> escreveu (sexta, 17/05/2024 =C3=A0(s) 13:57):<=
br>
On Fri, 17 May 2=
024 11:09:00 +0100

Nuno Teixeira <=
eduardo@freebsd.org> wrote:



> Hello,

> 

> tpm kernel module fails to load starting on main from May 9.

> Updated today and same error:

> 

> ```

> $ kldload tpm

> kldload: an error occurred while loading module tpm. Please check

> dmesg(8) for more details.

> 

> (dmesg)

> link_elf_obj: symbol tpm_bus_driver undefined

> linker_load_file: /boot/kernel/tpm.ko - unsupported file type

> ```

> 

> I believe it is related to:

> 

> ---

> commit 10eea8dc8c4f3d2a3495e7fb08837d91adf465e9

> Author: Justin Hibbits <jhibbits@FreeBSD.org>

> Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thu May 9 15:27:35 2024 -0400

> 

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tpm20: Support partial reads

> 

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Summary:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0In some cases the TPM utilities may read only a par=
tial block,

> instead of a full block.=C2=A0 If a new command starts while in the mi=
ddle

> of a read it may cause the TPM to go catatonic and no longer respond
> to SPI.

> 

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Reviewed by:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 kd

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Obtained from:=C2=A0 Juniper Networks, Inc.

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Differential Revision: https://reviews.fre=
ebsd.org/D45140

> ---

> 

> I use tpm for bhyve/Win11.

> 

> Thanks,



Sorry for the breakage.=C2=A0 Should be fixed by 62adeb92.



- Justin




-- 
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FreeBSD UNIX:=C2=A0 <eduardo@FreeBSD.org>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Web:=C2=A0 https://Fr=
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Hello all,

At  recent main-n270203-2790ff21452f usb devices mouse and audio dac get
detected 30sec after login prompt.

Don't see anything relevant on dmesg but I see that:

sysctl.conf
dev.pcm.4.play.vchanmode=passthrough

gives an error on not existing dev.pcm.4 (usb audio dac) what means that
usb devices was not detected at this time.

Anyone experience it?

Thanks

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Hello all,

At=C2=A0 recent m=
ain-n270203-2790ff21452f usb devices mouse and audio dac get detected 30sec=
 after login prompt.

Don't see anything releva=
nt on dmesg but I see that:

sysctl.conf
=
dev.pcm.4.play.vchanmode=3Dpassthrough

gives an er=
ror on not existing dev.pcm.4 (usb audio dac) what means that usb devices w=
as not detected at this time.

Anyone experience it?
=


Thanks

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After 6437872c1d665c2605f54e8ff040b0ba41edad07 my usb mouse no longer 
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On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:20:24 +0300
Oleksandr Kryvulia  wrote:

> After 6437872c1d665c2605f54e8ff040b0ba41edad07 my usb mouse no longer
> works on boot because uhid(4) is not autoloaded. To make it work I need
> manualy load uhid or replug my usb mouse.
>

Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that added
the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel boot.

=2D-
Gary Jennejohn

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18.05.24 10:26, Gary Jennejohn:
> On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:20:24 +0300
> Oleksandr Kryvulia  wrote:
>
>> After 6437872c1d665c2605f54e8ff040b0ba41edad07 my usb mouse no longer
>> works on boot because uhid(4) is not autoloaded. To make it work I need
>> manualy load uhid or replug my usb mouse.
>>
> Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that added
> the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf. But IMHO 
it some regression.


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Hello,

To fix my setup with usb mouse and audio dac on both amd64 (laptop) and
rpi4:

/boot/loader.conf.local:
snd_uaudio_load=3D"YES"
ums_load=3D"YES"

This restores previous behaviour as it detects mouse before login prompt
and audio dac that it is processed correctly by sysctl.

Cheers,

Oleksandr Kryvulia  escreveu (s=C3=A1bado, 18/05/20=
24
=C3=A0(s) 09:24):

> 18.05.24 10:26, Gary Jennejohn:
> > On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:20:24 +0300
> > Oleksandr Kryvulia  wrote:
> >
> >> After 6437872c1d665c2605f54e8ff040b0ba41edad07 my usb mouse no longer
> >> works on boot because uhid(4) is not autoloaded. To make it work I nee=
d
> >> manualy load uhid or replug my usb mouse.
> >>
> > Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that adde=
d
> > the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel boot.
>
> As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid" in /etc/rc.conf. But IMHO
> it some regression.
>
>
>

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Hello,

To fix my setup with =
usb mouse and audio dac on both amd64 (laptop) and rpi4:

/boot/loader.conf.local:
snd_uaudio_load=3D"YES"=

ums_load=3D"YES"

This restores previ=
ous behaviour as it detects mouse before login prompt and audio dac that it=
 is processed correctly by sysctl.

Cheers,

Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@=
shurik.kiev.ua> escreveu (s=C3=A1bado, 18/05/2024 =C3=A0(s) 09:24):<=
br>
18.05.24 10:26, =
Gary Jennejohn:

> On Sat, 18 May 2024 09:20:24 +0300

> Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua> wrote:

>

>> After 6437872c1d665c2605f54e8ff040b0ba41edad07 my usb mouse no lon=
ger

>> works on boot because uhid(4) is not autoloaded. To make it work I=
 need

>> manualy load uhid or replug my usb mouse.

>>

> Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.=C2=
=A0 With that added

> the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel boot.



As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid" in /etc/rc.conf. =
But IMHO 

it some regression.








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does it also affect usb keyboard in single boot mode?

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does it also affect usb keyboard in single boot mode?

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> does it also affect usb keyboard in single boot mode?

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Oleksandr Kryvulia  writes:
> Gary Jennejohn  writes:
> > Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
> > added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
> > boot.
> As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"

should work, and is preferable to Gary's suggestion since loading
modules pre-boot is significantly slower and should only be done for
modules which are required to boot or mount the root filesystem, such as
zfs.

> But IMHO it some regression.

I agree, and 6437872c1d66 should be reverted until devmatch is capable
of loading uhid.

DES
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>> Gary Jennejohn  writes:
>>> Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
>>> added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
>>> boot.
>> As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
> I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
> script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
> like
>
> kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"
Yes, you are right. I mean
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Gary Jennejohn <garyj@gmx.de> writes:

Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"

    

    Yes, you are right. I mean

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> 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Smørgrav:
>> Oleksandr Kryvulia  writes:
>>> Gary Jennejohn  writes:
>>>> Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
>>>> added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
>>>> boot.
>>> As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
>> I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
>> script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
>> like
>>
>> kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"
> Yes, you are right. I mean
> sysrc kld_list+="uhid"

One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only 
uhid(4) does not solve a problem.

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Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua> writes:

Gary Jennejohn <garyj@gmx.de> writes:

Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"

      

      Yes, you are right. I mean

      sysrc
          kld_list+="uhid"

    

    One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only
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On Sat, May 18, 2024, 6:51=E2=80=AFAM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
wrote:

> 18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:
>
> 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav:
>
> Oleksandr Kryvulia   writ=
es:
>
> Gary Jennejohn   writes:
>
> Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
> added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
> boot.
>
> As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
>
> I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
> script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
> like
>
> kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"
>
> Yes, you are right. I mean
> sysrc kld_list+=3D"uhid"
>
>
> One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only uhid(4=
)
> does not solve a problem.
>


You don't need to change kld_list. In fact, you should undo any changes
you've made there. Undo everything in loader.conf you've done.

This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather, this exposes a
long standing bug in the USB code where there's an asymmetry between the
nomatch events and the bus tree it presents to devctl causing devmatch to
fail when the nomatch events aren't present on boot.

Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=3D1 in /boot/loader.conf and reboot.
Or update to the change I'm about to make.

Warner

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    18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:

    

     =20
      18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav:

      

        
Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua>=
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Gary Jennejohn=
 <g=
aryj@gmx.de> writes:

Try adding uhi=
d_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid=
" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /=
etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"

      

      Yes, you are right. I mean

      sysrc
          kld_list+=3D"uhid"

    

    One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only
    uhid(4) does not solve a problem.


You don't need to ch=
ange kld_list. In fact, you should undo any changes you've made there. =
Undo everything in loader.conf you've done.

This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather, this exposes a l=
ong standing bug in the USB code where there's an asymmetry between the=
 nomatch events and the bus tree it presents to devctl causing devmatch to =
fail when the nomatch events aren't present on boot.

Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=3D1 in /boot/loader.conf and =
reboot. Or update to the change I'm about to make.

=

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On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 6:51=E2=80=AFAM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
wrote:

> 18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:
>
> 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav:
>
> Oleksandr Kryvulia   writ=
es:
>
> Gary Jennejohn   writes:
>
> Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
> added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
> boot.
>
> As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
>
> I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
> script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
> like
>
> kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"
>
> Yes, you are right. I mean
> sysrc kld_list+=3D"uhid"
>
>
> One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only uhid(4=
)
> does not solve a problem.
>

Also, in this case, kld_list is a terrible place to load the files. You're
better off loading them with xxx_load=3DYES in loader.conf. The reason is
that both uhid and ums will match your mouse. kld_list loads these in a
random order (effectively) and the first one to load will claim the device,
since there's no re-probe when the next one loads. You should never use it,
unless the module you're loading isn't supported by the boot loader (like
drm-kmod). The old advice was to put everything in kld_list and it would
speed up boot, but all the performance bugs in the boot loader have been
fixed by a combination of moving to UEFI (which is generally faster),
BIOSes with performance bugs disappearing 10 years ago and block caching
being added to the boot loader. It should almost always be empty or just
drm-mod these days (unless you somehow have special needs).

By adding uhid last to this list in this way, you're guaranteeing you'll
hit this bug because it's not after ums, and that things won't work.

Warner

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    18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:

    

     =20
      18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav:

      

        
Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua> writes:

Gary Je=
nnejohn <garyj@gmx.de&=
gt; writes:

Try add=
ing uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid=
" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /=
etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"

      

      Yes, you are right. I mean

      sysrc
          kld_list+=3D"uhid"

    

    One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only
    uhid(4) does not solve a problem.

=

Also, in this case, kld_list is a terrible place to load the files. Yo=
u're better off loading them with xxx_load=3DYES in loader.conf. The re=
ason is that both uhid and ums will match your mouse. kld_list loads these =
in a random order (effectively) and the first one to load will claim the de=
vice, since there's no re-probe when the next one loads. You should nev=
er use it, unless the module you're loading isn't supported by the =
boot loader (like drm-kmod). The old advice was to put everything in kld_li=
st and it would speed up boot, but all the performance bugs in the boot loa=
der have been fixed by a combination of moving to UEFI (which is generally =
faster), BIOSes with performance bugs disappearing 10 years ago and block c=
aching being added to the boot loader. It should almost always be empty or =
just drm-mod these days (unless you somehow have special needs).
<=
div>
By adding uhid last to this list in this way, you're=
 guaranteeing you'll hit this bug because it's not after ums, and t=
hat things won't work.

Warner


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> reproduce the problem and also noticed another one.
> 

Thank you for your report, the video is highly appreciated to understand 
the problem quickly and exactly.

> I noticed Network Selection screen only shows one line, it's not 
> beautiful to navigate through items this way.  On 14.1-BETA2 it shows 
> multiple lines so it seems to be a regression.

Problem 1. Looking at wlanconfig it seems related to $height $width 
$rows for the selecting menu. Please could you open a PR adding me, so 
we can test and solve.

> 
> The problem users reported was: after selecting desired network it just 
> starts over instead of asking for password.  I made a video [1] showing 
> the problem.

Problem 2. I know this issue about --mixedform, my last import 2 day ago 
should solve a6d8be451f62d425b71a4874f7d4e133b9fb393c.
You could try the last main snapshot (yesterday 17 May), please let me 
know any problem.

> 
> Jessica, I've cc'd you because git shows you were the last person making 
> changes in this area.  If it's not related and I made a mistake, just 
> ignore me.
> 
> [1] https://youtube.com/shorts/Gmeckokw2a0

Again thanks for the video.

Best Regards,
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>
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2024, 6:51 AM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
>  wrote:
>
>     18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:
>>     18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Smørgrav:
>>>     Oleksandr Kryvulia    writes:
>>>>     Gary Jennejohn    writes:
>>>>>     Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
>>>>>     added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
>>>>>     boot.
>>>>     As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
>>>     I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
>>>     script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
>>>     like
>>>
>>>     kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"
>>     Yes, you are right. I mean
>>     sysrc kld_list+="uhid"
>
>     One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only
>     uhid(4) does not solve a problem.
>
>
>
> You don't need to change kld_list. In fact, you should undo any 
> changes you've made there. Undo everything in loader.conf you've done.
>
> This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather, this exposes 
> a long standing bug in the USB code where there's an asymmetry between 
> the nomatch events and the bus tree it presents to devctl causing 
> devmatch to fail when the nomatch events aren't present on boot.
>
> Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=1 in /boot/loader.conf and 
> reboot. Or update to the change I'm about to make.
>

Thanks for the detailed explanation, Warner. Interesting that on my 
system hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=1 is set by /etc/rc.d/devmatch but 
only explicit set it in /boot/loader.conf did the trick. That is why I 
think this sysctl don't work in my case.
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On Sat, May 18, 2024,
                6:51 AM Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua>
                wrote:

              

              

                
 18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:

                  
 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling
                    Smørgrav:

                    

                      
Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua> writes:

Gary Jennejohn <garyj@gmx.de> writes:

Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"

                    

                    Yes, you are right. I mean

                    sysrc
                        kld_list+="uhid"

                  

                  One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4),
                  loading only uhid(4) does not solve a problem.

                

              

            

          

          


          

        

        


        

        
You don't need to change kld_list. In fact, you should undo
          any changes you've made there. Undo everything in loader.conf
          you've done.

        

        


        

        
This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather,
          this exposes a long standing bug in the USB code where there's
          an asymmetry between the nomatch events and the bus tree it
          presents to devctl causing devmatch to fail when the nomatch
          events aren't present on boot.

        


        

        
Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=1 in
          /boot/loader.conf and reboot. Or update to the change I'm
          about to make.

        


        

      

    

    

    Thanks for the detailed explanation, Warner.
          Interesting that on my system hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=1
          is set by /etc/rc.d/devmatch but only explicit set it in
          /boot/loader.conf did the trick. That is why I think this
          sysctl don't work in my case.

        
  


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On Sat, May 18, 2024, 9:22=E2=80=AFAM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
wrote:

> 18.05.24 16:06, Warner Losh:
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2024, 6:51=E2=80=AFAM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
> wrote:
>
>> 18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:
>>
>> 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav:
>>
>> Oleksandr Kryvulia   wri=
tes:
>>
>> Gary Jennejohn   writes:
>>
>> Try adding uhid_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
>> added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
>> boot.
>>
>> As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
>>
>> I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
>> script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
>> like
>>
>> kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"
>>
>> Yes, you are right. I mean
>> sysrc kld_list+=3D"uhid"
>>
>>
>> One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only
>> uhid(4) does not solve a problem.
>>
>
>
> You don't need to change kld_list. In fact, you should undo any changes
> you've made there. Undo everything in loader.conf you've done.
>
> This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather, this exposes a
> long standing bug in the USB code where there's an asymmetry between the
> nomatch events and the bus tree it presents to devctl causing devmatch to
> fail when the nomatch events aren't present on boot.
>
> Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=3D1 in /boot/loader.conf and reboo=
t.
> Or update to the change I'm about to make.
>
>
> Thanks for the detailed explanation, Warner. Interesting that on my syste=
m
> hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=3D1 is set by /etc/rc.d/devmatch but only
> explicit set it in /boot/loader.conf did the trick. That is why I think
> this sysctl don't work in my case.
>

Yea. That's the optimization. We don't start generating events until it is
one. Setting it in the bootloader causes all events to coke through.
Setting it in devmatch turns them on after we run devmatch the first time,
omitting all of the ones generated on boot.

Warner

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    18.05.24 16:06, Warner Losh:

    

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On Sat, May 18, 2024,
                6:51=E2=80=AFAM Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.k=
iev.ua>
                wrote:

              

              

                
 18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:

                  
 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling
                    Sm=C3=B8rgrav:

                    

                      
Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuri=
ku@shurik.kiev.ua> writes:

Gary Jennejohn=
 <garyj@gmx.de> writes:

Try adding uhi=
d_load=3D"YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
boot.

As workaround I already have kld_list+=3D"uhid=
" in /etc/rc.conf.

I hope you don't mean that literally, because /=
etc/rc.conf is a shell
script and +=3D is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
like

kld_list=3D"${kld_list} uhid"

                    

                    Yes, you are right. I mean

                    sysrc
                        kld_list+=3D"uhid"
                  

                  One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4),
                  loading only uhid(4) does not solve a problem.

                

              

            

          

          


          

        

        


        

        
You don't need to change kld_list. In fact, you should und=
o
          any changes you've made there. Undo everything in loader.conf
          you've done.

        

        


        

        
This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather,
          this exposes a long standing bug in the USB code where there'=
s
          an asymmetry between the nomatch events and the bus tree it
          presents to devctl causing devmatch to fail when the nomatch
          events aren't present on boot.

        


        

        
Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=3D1 in
          /boot/loader.conf and reboot. Or update to the change I'm
          about to make.

        


        

      

    

    

    Thanks for the detailed explanation, Warn=
er.
          Interesting that on my system hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=3D1
          is set by /etc/rc.d/devmatch but only explicit set it in
          /boot/loader.conf did the trick. That is why I think this
          sysctl don't work in my case.
<=
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Yea. =
That's the optimization. We don't start generating events until it =
is one. Setting it in the bootloader causes all events to coke through. Set=
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tting all of the ones generated on boot.

<=
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18.05.24 19:29, Ivan Quitschal:
>
> Hi Warner /  WBR / Oleksandr
>
> Im not sure if that’s the case with this uhid.ko, but you guys 
> remember I had a priority issue with this module and Vladimir made me 
> a patch to fix the attach priority?
>
> Warner, was it fixed since then?
>
> Let me show the patch I use to this very day important line is this, 
> the patch might be wrong , because im still on 14-current
>
> +//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);
>
>         return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);
>
> diff --git a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
>
> index 174e1c28ae96..7b19d713c943 100644
>
> --- a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
>
> +++ b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
>
> @@ -802,6 +802,7 @@ usbhid_probe(device_t dev)
>
>         if (hid_test_quirk(&sc->sc_hw, HQ_HID_IGNORE))
>
>                 return (ENXIO);
>
> +//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);
>
>         return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);
>
> }
>

If I correctly understand this patch alredy in main with 
975407b1d8dcceac2b54e2c4df96aadec7dc4c3a

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    18.05.24 19:29, Ivan Quitschal:

    

      
      
      
      

        
Hi
            Warner /  WBR / Oleksandr

        
 

        
Im not sure if that’s the case with this
          uhid.ko, but you guys remember I had a priority
            issue with this module and Vladimir made me a patch to fix
            the attach priority?

        
 

        
Warner, was it fixed since then?
            

        
 

        
 

        
Let me show the patch I use to this very day
            important line is this, the patch might be wrong , because
            im still on 14-current

        
 

        
+//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);

        
        return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);

        
 

        

          
 

        

        
 

        
diff --git a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
            b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c

        
index 174e1c28ae96..7b19d713c943 100644

        
--- a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c

        
+++ b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c

        
@@ -802,6 +802,7 @@ usbhid_probe(device_t dev)

        
        if (hid_test_quirk(&sc->sc_hw,
            HQ_HID_IGNORE))

        
                return (ENXIO);

        

        
+//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);

        
        return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);

        
}

        
 

      

    

    

    If I correctly understand this patch alredy in main with
    975407b1d8dcceac2b54e2c4df96aadec7dc4c3a

    

  


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Not sure, im on 14-current because of my synergy  insists on crashing  afte=
r version synergy-1.14.0.4,3
But that's pretty simple to check

Just do a
# grep 'return (BUS_PROBE_' /user/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c in your ow=
n kernel source tree to see what line is there

Thanks

Ivan


De: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org  E=
m nome de Oleksandr Kryvulia
Enviada em: s=E1bado, 18 de maio de 2024 15:29
Para: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Assunto: Re: RES: usb mouse not work on boot

18.05.24 19:29, Ivan Quitschal:

Hi Warner /  WBR / Oleksandr

Im not sure if that's the case with this uhid.ko, but you guys remember I h=
ad a priority issue with this module and Vladimir made me a patch to fix th=
e attach priority?

Warner, was it fixed since then?


Let me show the patch I use to this very day important line is this, the pa=
tch might be wrong , because im still on 14-current

+//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);
        return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);



diff --git a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
index 174e1c28ae96..7b19d713c943 100644
--- a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
+++ b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
@@ -802,6 +802,7 @@ usbhid_probe(device_t dev)
        if (hid_test_quirk(&sc->sc_hw, HQ_HID_IGNORE))
                return (ENXIO);
+//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);
        return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);
}


If I correctly understand this patch alredy in main with 975407b1d8dcceac2b=
54e2c4df96aadec7dc4c3a


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Not sure, im on 14-current because of my synergy&nbs=
p; insists on crashing  after version synergy-1.14.0.4,3


But that’s pretty simple to check


 


Just do a


# grep ‘return (BUS_PROBE_’
/user/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid=
.c in your own kernel source tree to see what line is there


 <=
/span>


Thanks


 


Ivan


 


 








De: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.or=
g <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org>
Em nome de Oleksandr Kryvulia

Enviada em: s=E1bado, 18 de maio de 2024 15:29

Para: freebsd-current@freebsd.org

Assunto: Re: RES: usb mouse not work on boot






 


18.05.24 19:29, Ivan Quitschal:=









Hi Warner /  WBR / Oleksandr


 =



Im not sure if that’s the case with this
uhid.ko, but you guys remember I had a priority=
 issue with this module and Vladimir made me a patch to fix the attach prio=
rity?


 


Warner, was it fixed since then=
?



 


 


Let me show the patch I use to =
this very day important line is this, the patch might be wrong , because im=
 still on 14-current


 


+//     ret=
urn (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);<=
/p>

     &=
nbsp;  return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);


 




 




 


diff --git a/sys/dev/usb/input/=
usbhid.c b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c


index 174e1c28ae96..7b19d713c94=
3 100644


--- a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.=
c


+++ b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.=
c


@@ -802,6 +802,7 @@ usbhid_prob=
e(device_t dev)


     &=
nbsp;  if (hid_test_quirk(&sc->sc_hw, HQ_HID_IGNORE))


     &=
nbsp;          return (ENXIO);=



+//     ret=
urn (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);<=
/p>

     &=
nbsp;  return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);


}


 =





=


If I correctly understand this patch alredy in main with 975407b1d8dcceac2b=
54e2c4df96aadec7dc4c3a


=
 








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18.05.24 21:39, Ivan Quitschal:
>
> Not sure, im on 14-current because of my synergy  insists on crashing  
> after version synergy-1.14.0.4,3
>
> But that’s pretty simple to check
>
> Just do a
> # grep ‘return (BUS_PROBE_’ /user/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhidc in 
> your own kernel source tree to see what line is there
>

That's from my source tree:

root@thinkpad:/usr/src # grep 'return (BUS_PROBE_' 
/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
        return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);
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Not sure, im on 14-current because of my
            synergy  insists on crashing  after version
            synergy-1.14.0.4,3

        
But that’s pretty simple to check

        
 

        
Just do a
            

            # grep ‘return (BUS_PROBE_’
          /user/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhidc in your own
            kernel source tree to see what line is there

        
 

      

    

    

    That's from my source tree:

    

    root@thinkpad:/usr/src
        # grep 'return (BUS_PROBE_' /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
      

             return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);

    
  


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On Sat, 18 May 2024, Oleksandr Kryvulia wrote:

> 18.05.24 21:39, Ivan Quitschal:
>
>       Not sure, im on 14-current because of my synergy  insists on crashing  after version synergy-1.14.0.4,3
>
>       But that’s pretty simple to check
>
>        
>
>       Just do a
>       # grep ‘return (BUS_PROBE_’ /user/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhidc in your own kernel source tree to see what line is there
>
>        
> 
> 
> That's from my source tree:
> 
> root@thinkpad:/usr/src # grep 'return (BUS_PROBE_' /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
>        return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);
> 
>


Oleksandr

ohh, thats not it then, :( ..

glad to hear its fixed on 15 though .



(thank you WBR for fixing it permanently ..)


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On 2024-05-18 08:33, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Sat, May 18, 2024, 9:22 AM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
> wrote:
> 
>> 18.05.24 16:06, Warner Losh:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, May 18, 2024, 6:51 AM Oleksandr Kryvulia 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 18.05.24 12:59, Oleksandr Kryvulia:
>>> 
>>> 18.05.24 12:55, Dag-Erling Smørgrav:
>>> 
>>> Oleksandr Kryvulia   
>>> writes:
>>> 
>>> Gary Jennejohn   writes:
>>> 
>>> Try adding uhid_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf.  With that
>>> added the module should be automatically loaded during the kernel
>>> boot.
>>> 
>>> As workaround I already have kld_list+="uhid" in /etc/rc.conf.
>>> 
>>> I hope you don't mean that literally, because /etc/rc.conf is a shell
>>> script and += is not valid shell syntax.  On the other hand, something
>>> like
>>> 
>>> kld_list="${kld_list} uhid"
>>> 
>>> Yes, you are right. I mean
>>> sysrc kld_list+="uhid"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One more correction. Via kld_list I need load ums(4), loading only
>>> uhid(4) does not solve a problem.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You don't need to change kld_list. In fact, you should undo any changes
>> you've made there. Undo everything in loader.conf you've done.
>> 
>> This is a bug in the boot optimization stuff. Or rather, this exposes a
>> long standing bug in the USB code where there's an asymmetry between the
>> nomatch events and the bus tree it presents to devctl causing devmatch to
>> fail when the nomatch events aren't present on boot.
>> 
>> Just set hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=1 in /boot/loader.conf and reboot.
>> Or update to the change I'm about to make.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the detailed explanation, Warner. Interesting that on my system
>> hw.bus.devctl_nomatch_enabled=1 is set by /etc/rc.d/devmatch but only
>> explicit set it in /boot/loader.conf did the trick. That is why I think
>> this sysctl don't work in my case.
>> 
> 
> Yea. That's the optimization. We don't start generating events until it is
> one. Setting it in the bootloader causes all events to coke through.
> Setting it in devmatch turns them on after we run devmatch the first time,
> omitting all of the ones generated on boot.
Why is sysctl.conf(5) not the best location for this?

> 
> Warner
> 
>> 
--Chris

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Ivan Quitschal  writes:
> diff --git a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
> index 174e1c28ae96..7b19d713c943 100644
> --- a/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
> +++ b/sys/dev/usb/input/usbhid.c
> @@ -802,6 +802,7 @@ usbhid_probe(device_t dev)
>         if (hid_test_quirk(&sc->sc_hw, HQ_HID_IGNORE))
>                 return (ENXIO);
> +//     return (BUS_PROBE_GENERIC + 1);
>         return (BUS_PROBE_DEFAULT + 1);
> }

You realize this diff does nothing at all, right?

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