From nobody Sun Dec 31 10:58:07 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T2x0x6xBZz55TnL for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T2x0w5hrYz3Skj for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=post.com header.s=s1089575 header.b=SaxGcM5e; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kolusion@post.com designates 74.208.4.201 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kolusion@post.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=post.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=post.com; s=s1089575; t=1704020287; x=1704625087; i=kolusion@post.com; bh=OMjD/JMBX9pQl6Wub0R5uqEC9gkgdGOEa4SVU8twTdg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=SaxGcM5eMdI5Vd7G+eqIXyfUQFMXuipvJGpP4ctPTyvsM7F//F2bOCghksd2l+Vf vwWTzWOO/MmBKw0pdpOSWJ+iLhR97iQPpGKsjJ2YzW5OGKT3Kb5yKs6gpXO1MPJjf 5UMFUO9n5CyJYMdrjx6BeSBepknkGeZBGuoqtcGGIOVPI/ixcfcuU1rAsDlrKkIsD FP1mcN82KEYx+2xBA3iWHmjh//sHvxJM96+CvH9WcUzphXQL7VjKMCATnlOfGD3JR nrwbnMe8f+pdyMWK//QxoRXdRNC0kR3FCzw0LnEfny6DRQqdi6dvrkCa5Pr+Xv08g hY6XDAGtkCeD1U2PFA== X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a Received: from [10.237.67.2] ([10.237.67.2]) by msvc-mesg-gmxus002.server.lan (via HTTP); Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:58:07 +0100 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Kolusion K To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Suggestions to improve the FreeBSD Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:58:07 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bRfuT84IIcYsQf2Ksb+rgajIYZ5Ljk+cd99xbtnkXS4RrbsksD/K2/lZAIA/1TX+qjB2z LQExTiKa+IsFTevwcFSJgmpy9fBde3C/GCJv8Ak9KgJroAG/TrI/ucMUlF46dOaXt5OLjkPLYbzb UrLH1nP78z3Jo1v5wJuK1yvhFYTkkXCaaKb7SGRWBxQuYr13sGzZVvw37AZad57urJWWvbzowoYH TFEtITbcdtScrWtPimKwJ6a6YHrvq/aEQNgPL3wyiU3eYZdSMvHo6txjmVyzFA1+ubagWjAnLd4S iI= X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:8mK1re+Rdy8=;qSgE73CTt/ErvWZKYwUbIilxeyp +L0KSVENc1WzIP1u2cyyyRxDzDoi6IhZ7OmSK2QlrsdpCgeU+0T3LwskcB7CMDQNTS55kxzNU s11w4zphl0tpNzdumLOGtgLwM4uxOmvJgoH1vgqQdItQhYnv9MIjrM/I3mWi2HcXru44zGSPE rskijtjheu92MflHZhOH9Uw07NeSTsVydX5AidHGdajHHBGoMb7u5KjCxcpNa00qnsJ8MefAx 5yZKmZJbrsGPMvJJmXuLPG349k7x+HX+rLMnwVL3Jww9IfHAz8QR18ZCzmW9tV1CLhpAs+qXh 1UEDLHFlO8StFVHAuKrPaybW551E5qXPkitOIKjerdSEKWK7PsySGsSJxG9nVsakzNow+pdKB RCw2HM8e4vmsgVfWXwISiXJO/pdYUwyCB+hgjvGsdhPSYrRvqtCZV1KwimkR5+WAbiUsi/pmV RlKz0p1BJzfGo7oW6eMqCWOSwDclDCmNNXorWupZ47j9Tyw2FSg5rDfSlQgaPxw/q4iynrvSJ pSYSNbA95qejJkWLsBGRctrErSosgM6XCMa2BcFhOYojA3Fknfyztyzlr1ZkCRmN2rFoN8MtB P8WjAqcjBlJ3bvgG+egap/CCK3B2oMAjV1lkJPtxtI4j47cmCD6S7w2CnH8nmppf1Eo5tDuzH 1PIL3rQoj24Gm+pNn7dvVq5WfFgZf6sbdlc2qKogLUAi/cbVEbyMbm2yYbMdVrtQTPofiPOKN EUJayJaIdmoyCOamiGPLe1oddDPlL9BWilKTwuCzakKR7OLltUbsIc6Eb4eMk0CPcRylrWYR5 4blqv3O+OI9+vH60T3+SRCLw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[post.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[post.com:s=s1089575]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.201:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[74.208.4.201:from]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[post.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T2x0w5hrYz3Skj X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi, The FreeBSD Handbook needs improving and I have suggestions to improve it. Yesterday I installed FreeBSD 14-RELEASE and it was a headache. I wanted the GNOME desktop environment, so I navigated the FreeBSD Handboo= k table of contents to section 8.2.2. GNOME and followed the instructions.= The outcome was that GNOME didn't work. The problem was that GNOME depends on either the X Window System or Waylan= d on FreeBSD being installed and they weren't installed. There was no ment= ioned of them needing to be installed under section 8.2.2 GNOME. Section 8.1 Synopsis states the user should understand how to install eith= er the X Window System or Wayland on FreeBSD, but I didn't see that as I a= rrived at section 8.2.2 GNOME by navigating the table of contents. I suggest stating at the start of section 8.2.2 GNOME that either the X Wi= ndow System or Wayland on FreeBSD needs to be installed, and also do it un= der the sections of the other the desktop environments. And section 8.1 Synopsis doesn't actually state the X Window System or Way= land on FreeBSD needs to be installed, it just states the user needs to un= derstand how to install them. That isn't clear. It should state the X Wind= ow System or Wayland on FreeBSD needs to be installed in order to use a de= sktop environment. I also suggest creating a section in the FreeBSD Handbook called 'Window s= ystems' and bringing the the X Window System section and Wayland on FreeBS= D section into it as subsections. Then, for example, instead of it stating GNOME requires the X Window Syste= m or Wayland on FreeBSD being installed, it can just state that GNOME requ= ires a window system be installed. Sincerely, Kolusion From nobody Sun Dec 31 11:27:30 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T2xfq6Sc3z55XR6 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T2xfq0hb1z3Vbs for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=post.com header.s=s1089575 header.b=hitk2Cnf; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kolusion@post.com designates 74.208.4.201 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kolusion@post.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=post.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=post.com; s=s1089575; t=1704022050; x=1704626850; i=kolusion@post.com; bh=Zk/r9U8QCV70lKIjerEDoeokPjgF5mYF5KS4jYAFTFM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=hitk2CnfkaeATflyq3sbNhA+hBOKDBaWnTq9ntMd6Ock07dojoHfX7XmUIeeYOAG tAhWR1Im20zyhttEx4dr/kRFu05/2nKo99Z/oFKo2G23SSRUenHYohKqo/HruBuBG wdzq4245fOxsKmFBYEQvE5+cJ/ol04FHW/RLBY/dLccS7taGcVUma3WurlZxni0sL FVWRM/hvW7BYZWMIMagPkHBLBa566gFhHF4XnGA5kldItLmAtxX7eXol2FKA53rC7 YTDUj/feo9D6aclYXsQmlvu59VZGQRjMvFfjE51INcbaiZrayLO7uoHEe8F7IOMU4 bxa3bgTBVcM233/qLg== X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a Received: from [10.237.67.2] ([10.237.67.2]) by msvc-mesg-gmxus010.server.lan (via HTTP); Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:27:30 +0100 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Kolusion K To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Suggestions to improve the FreeBSD handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:27:30 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5qHPpxuFEUoMuZ/RNm93+HBIPlaC+LOtVyAu7jMQToybMv+rH2Be5plJ74lHWb5IOncfG /SHNn6cVb0u75XXc9rEtk0gBQPzF8Erb6b5LMAk875kHvQRf15YHn8SctQEDLnW9SpLcQDcA1yyl +2P5s71IJOivibzAoi9sZs6MhNtJdYOwowCFeZYPtYLtlgVx3cMN7Wa4Z8AgBQ06Z/92aa3SQ/kW dwBTGFIpTBMlt3m4SF88HUayepiXOlxsNRC6d3wjYGqO7deEwAyf4EYME3KkJHYyNfho8Ms7gQQp 8A= X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:HgjsgFINAkI=;82sJIzyN5jg62/S+TpMKkOznYFe hoQxmIvyStgkjxAENOz5ygIZOe/A5nxBrGxuqP1CC+vQLWSA8hlVPXGyGigtsDb/tiFeBEnRT CeSYMD8Nz7HqQIxNOS2dwzxTL7wweojgzoAbbuBLaloofqLfqt6ZTFhmnFtFUuLsnoU1qdUjo QmquRqZxDRwWbnuR8HWYoC9jkZMML/S24eMSawwCRnyz4obhP5kfyEimY0EjJmOMeQAhQrSgF JwFJeXevNbL+/A4kGwCrxItYoXBu60NPIPdv4PwrfGzkLMqaG50FtF0qwiIUAxIyzQx7ZWsQe EYflfHhHZvMrDj7WpiGfE2TpBS4ef+uK8HfSz5FJvxCZuO+b6Qz+Hgm3olCyGWyGtfT2ACjGH iXq2G+nqXCP+p+3f4uLb0S0bB+fu5DUsQHxjHzjweDC7YBk337cYlmeJSlTCr0EmYIrO69Nh7 gKlrjARsRvWXjgTHkzLIwEZineFKYU8JBIO3A2/KJbWqF0Ith0pIW/kJnj5fHx94MxSL1RTye w39FhJnWYViZc7sNW9WsZqo5nakvSzvfFeTei8M7QLwURsMvu8E1DfAvPGkVUJ4SPrcCUinbe N91ORynYBWYSaiIxcHjW/OQduo/1VRsbfZ2mie9YII0UTyv2haon/rAtVvpkEhuxKXRfUWxu9 uIq7FsA7h07FSRMyFNBgOl9jFGA5yP0RM5J7SOal46pTloW3e2kLFVnwPGgyaBv6HfKeRZwl8 vGVfwo0NCG9lN4en6PXXkCOC+dEryC8zbdkWkqc9HSsV5H9P9A8ZjlUC1yLXDKWFsuA59evmV ggObrguTRRyijdOts6FqNWnQ== X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[post.com,none]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[post.com:s=s1089575]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.201:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[post.com:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[74.208.4.201:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T2xfq0hb1z3Vbs X-Spamd-Bar: -- I have given it more thought. If each desktop environment section states a windows system needs to be installed in order to use it, then the mention of a windows system needing to be installed in order to use a desktop environment under section 8.1 Synopsis can be removed because the user will read it when they read the section for the desktop environment they choose. From nobody Sun Dec 31 11:51:58 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T2yC36PMSz55ZjS for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T2yC25Q6Pz3YLW for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 11:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=post.com header.s=s1089575 header.b=k5H7BI7z; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kolusion@post.com designates 74.208.4.201 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kolusion@post.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=post.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=post.com; s=s1089575; t=1704023518; x=1704628318; i=kolusion@post.com; bh=71mFx7QboUNml9UfM3sao925g5Cr4+0e3MLV4HdrpgU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=k5H7BI7zTg6XhmzssE2NqHuWTR2OvxgPrZY/YvvlSxDzHTnJkirSaIrty59grekN oe5zv8cpsudy30zvVyQqeC6+vZyjX5CybR/0dXT0X8jXXzgTqE1UwkK5sGoH/tzYB GyzS5mljVzuIsuCEwWdzEVf8EfKdoy86iAYHHHUkMZ917YFat0DZ1kFKpjg89r1NW uQbabtll52Hkiigefx4NyXrMFVCgiepduoxOW5WAvfmMdpMblyavkTxeYL/lGqq2K q5UoaN12O/D9lJFz1Q59lt7S9yEGfMcg4I0uEFSIn4KrYVuQ3gOcRt2d9+VaOMniL z605tb3iO9nsSKsTTA== X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a Received: from [10.237.67.2] ([10.237.67.2]) by msvc-mesg-gmxus003.server.lan (via HTTP); Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:51:58 +0100 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Kolusion K To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Systematic broken instructions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:51:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Y/qRGMQSL2tpsN/EXswQ0K02NFLIqmPOGJLfZoDU9Qgm1CwCWJgwRpC3T20yS3AEdkjbv 20UzD+nlxFwbDe3sA9B0RgqOxAKVHPfVLEADwNwPooiTwlsa9eosIMwnKZfCGl/MaSy2ZB+fmycb NLpvTHZTMWXIiUjGDd3Wwq6epDGOqe9ldEWYWU9KzzgELkdQJVA/3ilHIV9eNfU3BoULwZPH1cki /4NCuivLFyEicvOvkXA5HrTkkxMfo+i2IF5/UzI7HJg+24tJVQo04g9QhVVBOObchuNk9IYGOqCe lA= X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:eMnLrn9NX9k=;rwkN3kLyxww2Znjmnhtg/gcmWnQ pLtSCBZIH+JnvHiqhQl+j9juy1LP3Ng5Ih4OorHK6H8bqUtv7sYSWAkCnsascShOATR6WFhov E/OuHWeUwXdU7KwdDKBtF3eO2myL57yl7+yUcSGx2lYbXOMz3uULgl+HEuZLnj0VEsGPYW+kg rXfnq5oFRD+DBISG8ZDybYoJaK5D+OysgtR70550LUjqJQY6V8vjiNVsnHAAj23z7/7v3bLO4 kEfcCU6xamKPnIBuldXD62D9GpZ+ApTTFpbfXnggZM6tt4w10frBv7SC9q0ux4D4CaZ0Ox8V6 KXq8rQUBHT/a5bpKQDvy6Gn512dSX3S3RLiO28snZl/SN4w3QacJugTW0kdALYGOeEgXIQsP+ teByb06Zlpq5twJx881R4fiLOjNVZzKFloZc7VuVvCZMCeB4uQoAdr9k9FktHazXBqKcxLBxZ QvboJWFtILnAntP0D0dMzM7zoR2qZMl3/yN7DvDeKVzzcg4Ad8D0wPlsq1q2lWZhR4igL1Ydg unRxyLTCzc0LUlOBJQ/gMWw0zvhqDv6JwpxP80KaLZsGZEu9HayOQok/4xpkDkWCWuF3PHw/Y /8zin9BoBy0dXkFP9GDKaMajiLW6C8Waybyaze8gZv9XJaB5nrT2FV+3P60iS7zSnZLRa0t3T pJ97tVNBFDbJ4DLXKydFIjqa/wmxqTO2cxIrl073626Gala1NbrX0k4M2uCU2oyfvv301ee7P MU1RaY22/heqTHMjcE6bZPqMxqNJP0WLtmoKyt3WM2D01SSKua0e4hf+N8pSe1CpDnow35zq/ YkCgWMEkLSHla4FHfBYAFgjXMuUxzTOnbgvtfh10AMVGA= X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.48 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[post.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[post.com:s=s1089575]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.201:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[74.208.4.201:from]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[post.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T2yC25Q6Pz3YLW X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi, The FreeBSD Handbook has a systematic problem where it gives literal instructions that don't work. For example, section 8.2.2.1. Install GNOME meta package states to execute '# pkg install gnome', but '# ' is not part of the command. And the copy button next to the command includes the '# ' which it shouldn't. The instructions should instead say to execute the command as 'root' user. Not everyone knows what '#' means. Its probably explained somewhere in the thousand page manual but most people don't have time to read it all, and they shouldn't have to read it all for something which could easily be explained on the spot. :) Sincerely, Kolusion From nobody Sun Dec 31 21:00:14 2023 X-Original-To: doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3BMf63FBz55Hcp for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3BMf3Zx9z3Wck for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1704056414; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Nb9YV9lfMG8LY0b8l0W3sHvdKAPbeBPuZCJEmqvQcxq09SKUYXPUXxFTMeHT2QZoHFyc7S o1574W0dphuzn3jnQ+BfL4tAZ1y5oE1iXI5+++xKMlYpbQXLHF3MxrJcjhGySHb4Zq8sdI yG0hitjhzvdS0r0zEB9ap7pn5UJdUvGDksCFw4WB6UJ13snDcrBSlo7Y44Z1pcmbFAk8z+ tSk+1EsDRw9k4nAKi9LgfYEQFmV4UXq/wqVC+FYEcSUksbhsx3rJXUOFklRcx0KJPH7Q/v yHt5Xw6d47LMwf1fccRl1uEHe/Xsb+zskj9UsAN9NnCa7er+xFY93LD4kF5PCQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1704056414; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YGxxEe88Bkb1y339tMdmsK0yzZEkMPNEmGLpA7EerXo=; b=y3MYyQ4A+C8Fj7HkvH5FPZolIhGHYdcOnTTm8tHKsabqwRMnOh3BSVbo3+BSXZ6M7/zz1L 6PLYNaBqfW84dGCF10fx3QsieVCBlmbZDm9/Df0AR9pPafRVWTY4OynbJ1qRffHE15DvrF ipv3yhefREWm/QqVT2HcOp65IsjON/IkNYuRDMliFmhUyB/ESY0rE+zC7I9cCbf5rp2tdx d4yuRHcQinDZxo5kjmz8T5Lyme57eAL1n4kvOYtXfXkVttWD+v3zybhoKlGi2x5hbyiUw7 A7jhPSQ/zO+H9MW+tM8xUK2TD6VTeynPUs9S3VTepFdpTVHacSHjkaWGq9SuyQ== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3BMf2fTbzpmQ for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 3BVL0EqW058462 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 3BVL0EPt058461 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202312312100.3BVL0EPt058461@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for doc@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 +0000 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="17040564141.a49eeCD.56781" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --17040564141.a49eeCD.56781 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 272260 | bectl(8) usage: -? 1 problems total for which you should take action. --17040564141.a49eeCD.56781 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:00:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
------------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------
Open        |    272260 | bectl(8) usage: -?

1 problems total for which you should take action.
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This would then mean the FreeBSD Handbook wouldn't need to sy= stematically indicate or state the command requires superuser privileges. So instead of the FreeBSD Handbook incorrectly stating to execute this... # pkg install gnome ... The FreeBSD Handbook would instead state to execute this: sudo pkg install gnome This way doesn't require the user knowing what '#' means which saves them = time, a bad experience, and it makes using FreeBSD more practical. > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 12:51 pm > From: "Kolusion K" > To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org > Subject: Systematic broken instructions > > Hi, > > > The FreeBSD Handbook has a systematic problem where it gives literal ins= tructions that don't work. > > For example, section 8.2.2.1. Install GNOME meta package states to execu= te '# pkg install gnome', but '# ' is not part of the command. And the cop= y button next to the command includes the '# ' which it shouldn't. > > The instructions should instead say to execute the command as 'root' use= r. > > Not everyone knows what '#' means. Its probably explained somewhere in t= he thousand page manual but most people don't have time to read it all, an= d they shouldn't have to read it all for something which could easily be e= xplained on the spot. :) > > > Sincerely, > > Kolusion > From nobody Mon Jan 1 01:36:33 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3JVV5pp6z55p9j for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3JVT6G8fz4ZqY for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=post.com header.s=s1089575 header.b=DaMNv+Ml; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kolusion@post.com designates 74.208.4.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kolusion@post.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=post.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=post.com; s=s1089575; t=1704072993; x=1704677793; i=kolusion@post.com; bh=uHE6MEf7GnT0c5WdfQHRJ+4hdAj1OWt8j6HgqRPUodY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=DaMNv+Ml2KFI1Xn7UY/h77IK0/VQpCsQKUBr+CuzvynVuEcWAhjzWYz49WtEKpD0 Ec/MtO4OSy4NJu6TogRLJ25Cm2cQjmc531fMF7EVR5VSShm7NVbdfuQr9J6/aMLSj xUjx8prXkrs5IbeJ/vFaV4E7w2/buzpwowmJEbkdrFAvePU2V8mENSOFEeN78wQhq 2FWZYr/MVszIA0ch3x81DuWSGG1FJH/9Prw/1FIyx+5l67DUA425MECPzHcVkY6b8 9Yd/OiWFw5hv1XsX0Urn4uyfiak+FithZ6F3YZv+w5CJt9B/G+hekoDYNR1OrSHkF hQhDVBLH+Jm8LikOcw== X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a Received: from [10.237.66.2] ([10.237.66.2]) by msvc-mesg-gmxus008.server.lan (via HTTP); Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:36:33 +0100 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Kolusion K To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Inconsistent use of both flow of wording and terminology Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:36:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+VMI5DS98VGvQRbVIGYJKIyN1KDw4fdk0AWkX0cRmBkgLZBYCUgdG92UAklP3E+evQx+e jNS7yBMVPuGCC9P1cqFTXF8SZN6cpMa07nnc0/JmRxbsYj9NJj0bBnrjuhmekA648aocT8PYtvQo TlVcbYfo1ZqrUFVG+c7Y9dxlHsAvBjvsfwdV7O4V4QW+nzZ0/7+M8KrpSlD3IBXgvz+vz3mEZW0P /7OjnMtqjnOZ3dk1DVx+5c1JKNHVPCNAiriC/7oS3b9GTn+QPek1GCKY27veZXlFiY0PpkjAJoY7 FU= X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:Z5vRdKkyAEI=;RRoCBo+d/qAiQUtm7UZrKVjjzHV NGcYYB6Lyd9rx/x9CLmaZ8lrpW/5Y3QLw6EOMm8u8TOiehrGECL9X2cOBeUScw4YHr65MiK/I 3ChZcuIswme+kwbqG7sNyrQH9fK6hZLstW4edwmgi9A8RvlFCNmnCI1RO4MvSqjwJQ2e9ksqr m93JUL4d4vWEPN+iLSU0YmagnOJ2sij+aLbcnLzSkiWN/jhyNr6PpL7eF0p5vinPUP9IQsbRE g3atteCbwUNtmMI2q6v1CSSRd1kApo9Y9bjUUg9mRe43CFfTUq5EoX8l1bwqzMxQnqu/h568z g3Le5SPEtFsPJOtY1AyVC5GmD4iA6Bibc13lrnIVhBIew7DLBa34lJwoy17Abp5U51vn9V1ve sjm10UQnxonIA+7UJ9iNMnCgoYTh6LhOq3Nmo8B4+VpDriVlJGzfRjZu+cJ6/ShA9WpNN9Z1H pwsCV+7J1gNeIL9MGIp91TZrUvPAwuMu4fLWHsWAZgpD57+md3KY5kBqreDOtgz/ACtnDus6W 3CPJLoHfJA11VN2PLZbWCHHYaZUQr2CqYsngoG20g6q/C94g5oywG2RG+kTwyVaWpd7ElHvbz pGiqRL03FF2sQ5rnHLvYwiCsE1gvn4wijmQ3mn0oDelx9uXRxXM5CzDiWnhMajYJC/2kaDfo9 jOOsQ5lAT55s5yaUqJCu1HKraRKbTcw2iSanXrJjruVSt9i65jE48P2F9LgcV8NZGICL6Mps/ lnjpIdlx5AGmFdUbPjCfVYUh1hlqcOhR8Y8p+vHAhtekUlhYEnqeo63IijiJ4GqZ7XCyLQOE+ NPTYqODq9yANwC/QFD0RMz38iZF4fuTAh1h7Eqp/oQkuM= X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[post.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[post.com:s=s1089575]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[post.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T3JVT6G8fz4ZqY X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi, The FreeBSD Handbook inconsistently uses both the flow of wording and terminology when giving instructions. When I say the flow of wording, I mean syntax. Section 20.12.2. Setting Quota Limits states "To verify that quotas are enabled, run:". Section 20.13.1. Disk Encryption with gbde states "FreeBSD provides a kernel module for gbde which can be loaded with this command:". Section 20.14.1. Configuring Encrypted Swap states "To overwrite the current swap partition with random garbage, execute the following command:". 'run', 'with this command', 'execute the following command'... I think flow of wording should be used consistently because it helps users psychologically interpreting instructions more easily as they become more familiar and habitual with a consistent flow. I think terminology should be used consistently because some users may think for example that running and executing are two different things. And I think consistent use of both flow of wording and terminology makes the FreeBSD Handbook look more polished. I think 'run' is a better term than 'execute' because 'run' is a term used a lot more by people, especially verbally. And 'run' sounds a lot less nerdy than 'execute'. :) Sincerely, Kolusion From nobody Mon Jan 1 01:44:19 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3JgT5Z2rz55qWV for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3JgS6TbLz4bp3 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=post.com header.s=s1089575 header.b=FnolyCmk; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kolusion@post.com designates 74.208.4.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kolusion@post.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=post.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=post.com; s=s1089575; t=1704073460; x=1704678260; i=kolusion@post.com; bh=8ZscpkK5i0gnRE5w0XGbQX/9thWskejNBlznVFxi4N0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=FnolyCmk9j6JMUx8ALYwMayl9PiPVqlvR0j5bDD9XQWEEqfqzrsC3LRwd8mgenWy 7kc5XnzMG+d0G0DYf+46JsQaRefqDlE5ISGLtoz7vV4gnId7oIbPmNdcN34uKjaBf nZ+4Zeqtiz9aQ3wGI+RckvR85xrgYxmAISTGbLslm4wUqwtxd0sn8N7sUkfb9n9Id 257ndG0DnnkfinXPFe6eN0oif8gkTXEnrOqMJ+DWjhtteXhelzIWYTmGndqdoRgda TsD+kEnDJTxn28VRf27c/xYfAKnMNNEAxjFTZL4agmRg8DivUyPByfrRt3yZ1NTvu yqnThaGqNwAuGq2vcg== X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a Received: from [10.237.66.2] ([10.237.66.2]) by msvc-mesg-gmxus005.server.lan (via HTTP); Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:44:19 +0100 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Kolusion K To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inconsistent use of both flow of wording and terminology Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:44:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:9QLFfeB0Mi0fkClsk+fL+SaWw+XjrzpWwtwczGXzfyvinhCEcucY8+nMJoXQRWkRJ9xck BWiXA37v1HHRrv0+Jur98M4YsbGnd1HoEI+8f/u8leM348tflCs4a1tnGp1S9bbph5Ys4VRW1Wwm 0SicDUdhtqthB5cu/rZrFAftcQb1vuLMbvubId56OJt6OB/A2W4Dl7avJH46UbSpGFjDKnrC2ycQ 22DUT/HeTkCUVgp/k7nwlBOoVOTrsMxAWb2sfbEzBKtOO/M5C8+irksWoROMxwjgVvRlsTO+GRCe W4= X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:p7v81jS9g+U=;/yPJjdT6iAWPvhNwLl/VDV5dzNv i6t2fIPDIvrNGqxWJgfTdhQydmHfZ3iwL7R44E5iTrjlhVex28NsvF/G7oRpB6K4bbccYyNvv h0nf61d+nBUeL8RcwbyUldvXiEnZlOd9ivcm0WANsuYFJ7Q/l4Zq6paMKMvzwmNB05JH+S9uH H2xTN3k6Vi0Zl3SjKJjN6mKka9L9dsjoBXQOtfNBs2BiopJFmEtMg9xeapbnFPpGSy1Kd8OuW fQeoeSoJwrV5kW4keGyGO7trgSdPI/p4KMPf0vggEfX2ZWfL+r11ouw7v7z2pJ6XfiVGfUXv/ xSVzuDQtl2kfl7xs6SUQ+h0kS3lmVt7YvqikzSHRHhQ2/1o4RLolk1BrnZ8sE/gO90H5XiMzW s/2h/VMmrSwQJboEpIAaVw69XobVhB3lWmlnTcYyf9TFm3u8u5oIhHEkAGoyWMFlhNlB4M+Nh T82u7XfhVtIWCY+jUNs4eLF92j57QWZUAw8ousm4IoiWr+E082/b0obUlU5KYh21N6rkDKneP /vh90M1N7QeiumZOWCV8XH4BzMdkXMtGce9aom6BeudYglrhzdBmd5lStrQa8QKbQM867pQ0k CFmvTkK517eFnU1XzxKogYUQxfxOOX0O6lnSN+MHL1QqLP43IgpmYxfFB4hdFnVdTi6N4mcTo o3rfzg7CGOJaCUlumE1KKV8SKgN0MHsRFRHj6Fx2X6MdHy2leExMTVsUYAH1n6h7+gdU3UKo6 CYDl20ikkqnkOkJ1Y5NdNZguD9DXMrPZ8piqA/KboqkiO9DW3HnuYXMqrTNwurYstpFEuiAFS alq/3wg/DxZFecamz4m4TVtQ== X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.60 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[post.com,none]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[post.com:s=s1089575]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[post.com:+]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T3JgS6TbLz4bp3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- After giving it more thought, I think using the terminology with the flow 'run the command:' is good. 'Running a command', 'running a program' and 'running an app' are not always in the same context. 'run the command' makes the context clearer in this regard. From nobody Mon Jan 1 21:11:41 2024 X-Original-To: doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3pZP2twTz55ZSG for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3pZP0n6Jz4Hwp for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1704143501; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=vn+PEjeQV2Tnj29oKhoVk5Q7Zc5pfBSxDib+/WzIVnD7FEPIgnEuAWDxaNgXj9TjENGuUj 7KWnKcEcPP+THpx9Z59sXcfWBHx8FK2R6LmTF9Rs1fppQ/JpJ3qe+ZQqcC6ocnjTyFx/qT TlDeH0U6V0ABaL/lCbFfEgXw8vXJzaPa4x6TMTc+NL8CBYMoZNkKfybDfog6p8m6grYsW8 Liwz88UMoe8XBsQD4+1ieDNrRiWAPOmcwkw32yzKxNgPQ5LYBiskRe+rul5Bk6ycPrx7bT rZYYhiedNCW74u45BhuU8hoDCxD2d39sT1R+h4yMKfdcssAmuFGmI/v4FpKtPw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D276063 Bug ID: 276063 Summary: Inaccurate event information regarding FOSDEM 2024 Product: Documentation Version: Latest Hardware: Any URL: https://www.freebsd.org/events/#fosdem-2024 OS: Any Status: New Severity: Affects Many People Priority: --- Component: Website Assignee: doc@FreeBSD.org Reporter: diizzy@FreeBSD.org CC: carlavilla@FreeBSD.org There's no FreeBSD stand or BSD devroom at FOSDEM 2024 Reference: https://fosdem.org/2024/stands/ https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/ --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Mon Jan 1 21:17:17 2024 X-Original-To: doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3phs63FWz55bHX for ; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D276063 Daniel Engberg changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|--- |Overcome By Events Status|New |Closed --- Comment #1 from Daniel Engberg --- Fixed in 9e4edf6117558817a1b6b0c1b0a4e5a1c5955b69 --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Jan 2 00:16:51 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3th70Mvzz55wgH for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3th55flCz3FyT for ; 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Minimum Hardware Requirements states the hardware architectures and devices supported by a FreeBSD release are listed on the FreeBSD Release Information page. There is three problems with this: 1. The release information page doesn't list hardware requirements. https://www.freebsd.org/releases/ 2. Knowing if my USB Wi-Fi adapter is a supported device is not a hardware requirement. Knowing how much RAM and storage space I'll need is a system requirement - this information doesn't exist in the release information. 3. The minimum hardware requirements should be in the FreeBSD Handbook. That's the whole point of section 2.2. Minimum Hardware Requirements. Having to go elsewhere for system requirement information when I was following the installation section of the FreeBSD Handbook was a crap experience for me. I felt FreeBSD was scattered and didn't have its act together. Having the system requirements in the FreeBSD Handbook would increase reliability. The party responsible for the release notes didn't include it and as a result caused a problem for the FreeBSD Handbook. Sincerely, Kolusion From nobody Tue Jan 2 00:50:49 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3vRH2gf5z560ft for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.200]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.com", Issuer "GeoTrust TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3vRG3Lfkz3XRB for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kolusion@post.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=post.com header.s=s1089575 header.b=Ssjnf8Q9; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kolusion@post.com designates 74.208.4.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kolusion@post.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=post.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=post.com; s=s1089575; t=1704156649; x=1704761449; i=kolusion@post.com; bh=8rJjfAuT7Uyh0CwMJqhnsAZuwjYKkSvSVKXFxmgOT90=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date; b=Ssjnf8Q9idFgMbCFW3AnotTA6/JtdhylOknmJJaWB0myV1NAC3hhCCj1KFKG9Yk8 XHPMU28HJs6BdGWA8wxWFFHKSDeYh69kfjLRy4hA1hNZ56/N8bt20sNet7mc0AAxq oCh4mH1/Y1r7fjpdSLJ6X8Dn1Po8dDpaq1t7xuBKj0XViD8cNnCUAfADPLmbcqJ9e xxSur5zSGPlIFro4MUabtOFeo5VvxJHU25Uk9AdlmJnScEYuAOP7oAYjOWUzfYfSR PYLYMhHcJ6aZUoeCRVqzy8DAbMblJFpMuL4mJuZ+bDQLnRrrHMGjKnsuQhqGz75gt fqkF6fQLmu2esylHMQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a Received: from [10.237.67.2] ([10.237.67.2]) by msvc-mesg-gmxus001.server.lan (via HTTP); Tue, 2 Jan 2024 01:50:49 +0100 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Kolusion K To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Clearly explain images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 01:50:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:EeHGPXq4ldKq/jQoOjQ8f/XaJgOcTPImFSzZh0XdMMd4poCxElve72DldYfEXEj2sR+K9 AQ4rFjCDsRFCgkY1IAhIx83GqHZUCJ9hfcUz6HxjDCVMaWKioUjUJQvxWhS67Edbezk1MKk7ZkfE s8ZnL4XWx95ZRXozUfd7CTEBSy1dzrkwYv8MPUOl3yL6PckA8W34tT0+rhM5eWFSlWFmGjuCcpS2 1+0iOt+ZqjKmm2eOD2uKn01QYXrGr5Z98ErxS+fxTA3KsyuCmDaptNccgmrEW1WzPkJCg5THcJa/ Jw= X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:VyjfmshYPzE=;tNxP5Yc/F26I/TvQNwlRzia9/1w arbcm1AVuH4nIkNZbpopxkgGGN0uwG8C04E8jSqjPw80SA3Bakq2SZfBM38MfbLcECtL1IqBy eV+zqi+56XyTvwXsuD2l/mZ/Z0QnQouuAefFtDQXYWCUVSp7JSJJPklJAJGkVunWUuyojMMnH QMDIEnBE5IzKxgGY/ISCGqNX0IXpmd++o/GdjH+Yur4h1D6d/BwgT94zqIuiPkYgQ7ffySGJo OPbMma+pEZ+wBydf84Tq9iLFeXh8iyfM3enC3i78baGvOdLCg67a184f/qsyNKErOw6lPWA9S aAj2naI37K1y9M65gU+k5yLU7a23JSOGn1VYXI+rmuLXERp7ab9L9jtPbAK1D+2BBou694xMO 4Mr8ldEJ1z9Ecmt24PVqPoEdli6YiJDoepZ9MGniDVZ497Bds7HHZ0g8IZGCMizjU5r00bxU3 O+IvUlIfPgRAfG8Rg7Qhp2xkbjJqP2snQFST6ZE2tdK5Nw66mwGNbzhX7X6lelpKKsnsB+Dwl Re9Kjx3ilNY5dMjamnZ9Sr7hwQfEohI7TelWBRpCRDMGd9oa+EKMtrQo7od5QoXzx/j3FsKDz KWpH9qM2J2uwOYyzzI4i8DO8za92G+M6tKtf8Rk744NO136UQFEhCil6MytM4/vcZSLHASo+9 8OV2PHfUlqNTGLCnU7vY2zvHqwcBhIjHXg4iqF2oxJeqmcDAT6vGI6g6mVHYTPfHqQcvaThz/ TlJhqyYqqXem4KNXqb4rfq3vbNlBc8eUL6I65kFz5Jpwp3QGhUfBRr8d33PZr3OhLkyHfIAYC G214zqAx7iM2UZz5ywvF0DHe9al9TvKzYkJjTCJNkgGhM= X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.25 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.65)[-0.653]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[post.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[post.com:s=s1089575]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:74.208.4.192/26]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[74.208.4.200:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[post.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[post.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:74.208.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[post.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T3vRG3Lfkz3XRB X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi When I was obtaining FreeBSD I didn't know if I had to download the CD image or the DVD image. I tried to find an explanation but it doesn't exist. I had to take a 'lucky shot' and download the one I thought was the one for my needs. Luckily it was the right one, but if it hadn't been then I would have walked away from FreeBSD because my time is valuable. And this: https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/14.0/ What the hell is this? There is no clear explanation of what each file is, which can be confusing for some people. I felt it made FreeBSD look lazy, pathetic and out of touch. This is a very bad thing for gaining new users. I propose making the download page give: a clear explanation of each image; the image size; a description of the image, and; a download button. I.E.: Instead of this... FreeBSD-14.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso 1139748864 2023-Nov-10 09:25 Make it like this... 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From nobody Tue Jan 2 02:31:16 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T3xgL69fWz55xsv for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 02:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jax@nwmt.us) Received: from mail.nwmt.us (mail.virginia-lawyers.net [174.136.97.156]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T3xgK3rFhz4MBb for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 02:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jax@nwmt.us) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=nwmt.us header.s=default header.b=W1JoLYHR; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jax@nwmt.us designates 174.136.97.156 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jax@nwmt.us; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=nwmt.us Received: from localhost (mail-nwmt-us [172.16.100.18]) by mail.nwmt.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13AEB8F81 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:31:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.nwmt.us ([172.16.100.18]) by localhost (mail.nwmt.us [172.16.100.18]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25654-06 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:31:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.20.206.50] (unknown [98.97.114.58]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jax@nwmt.us) by mail.nwmt.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35C15B8F80 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:31:18 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nwmt.us; s=default; t=1704162678; bh=CKEKDLMbVv2SRoxx+GmqE7U2enywP0dJL8fT4/32GGY=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=W1JoLYHRa0bmvfbd9I7oqtCm7AYxt/AtPZxMe8+hC1l3xbaA/+GyJzXrZhiz98wMt mrV/md3t5sQppKtIYtNMYeZVjLtKpNxakRPTqL0O4DSEl2YLgPJ0KovNx8JP71/kDI 7nfCwWqiayQByV+a5dR/A/puPbLks3y1aebPQO9DjqZ7MUF4qQ0XM28siPZtjlgXp9 nwr1EgydqSoUGmk8I2BoLK6yiHK9Vlt3JGPena1YEAsDei7ttuanmsg/sZusQnyVq/ nRXop8RqpPwi8hFyEyn4xyrXYtfBZTaiNwIex22atXr7IbOLpcOS9gpupsTzqT3zN7 f7JhgNfBNcxAw== Message-ID: <3f0b3b50-6e30-4bf1-974e-3eb5dbd3a206@nwmt.us> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:31:16 -0700 List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Clearly explain images Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: From: Jack Downes In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[nwmt.us,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[nwmt.us:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[nwmt.us:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:174.136.96.0/20, country:US]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-doc@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T3xgK3rFhz4MBb X-Spamd-Bar: --- please follow the culture of FreeBSD-doc and fill out bug reports for items you see in need of repair.  This list is normally populated with sparse human chatter and large amounts of bugzilla messages.  Mostly everyone communicates via the bugtracker, hope that helps! 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Much of it is straight the point which I appreciate, but I have found a substantial amount of irrelevant information in it. For example, the document includes sections Third Edition, Second Edition (2004), and First Edition (2001). These sections cover new concepts introduced in previous editions of the FreeBSD Handbook, but they are not part of the abstract of the current FreeBSD Handbook and therefore they don't serve the current FreeBSD Handbook any purpose. I have noticed there is a severe quality control problem with the FreeBSD Handbook in which it appears people haven't tested it to confirm its in line with implementation. So, I think there should be a quality control process for the next publication where sections of the book be given to people to test and confirm implementation. I'd volunteer to be one of these people. Also, I think someones going to have to proof read the FreeBSD handbook back to back to get an overall picture of it because there is a lot of contradiction in it. It will be a big job. The FreeBSD Foundation might have to pay someone a reasonable amount to do it, but I think the result would be worth it. I suggest the future FreeBSD Handbook include a relevancy in its names because the FreeBSD Handbook of yesterday isn't the FreeBSD handbook of today and there isn't a indicator on the face of it to indicate its relevancy. I suggest the naming scheme be intuitive, so, for FreeBSD 15-RELEASE, I'd call the handbook the FreeBSD 15-RELEASE Handbook. Also, there is a problem with the current FreeBSD Handbook where both the fourth edition and third edition sections claim to be the current version of the FreeBSD Handbook. Cringe. 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But is the current FreeBSD Handbook even the fourth edition?! It doesn't actually state what edition it is. Perhaps its the Five Edition and both the Fourth Edition and Third Edition sections are incorrectly claiming to be the current version??
 
And this another example of why the FreeBSD Handbook needs to be given some sort of identification in its name. It has an identity crisis. :)
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Sun, 7 Jan 2024 12:32:39 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 276173] GEOM_UZIP documentation errors Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2024 12:32:39 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: new X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Manual Pages X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: billblake2018@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_id short_desc product version rep_platform op_sys bug_status bug_severity priority component assigned_to reporter cc Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Documentation project List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D276173 Bug ID: 276173 Summary: GEOM_UZIP documentation errors Product: Documentation Version: Latest Hardware: Any OS: Any Status: New Severity: Affects Some People Priority: --- Component: Manual Pages Assignee: bugs@FreeBSD.org Reporter: billblake2018@gmail.com CC: doc@FreeBSD.org geom_uzip(4) lists kernel "options zstd" as required. There is no such opt= ion and no obvious replacement for it. And geom_uzip seems to work fine anyway= .=20 This page should also include "options ZSTDIO", which is required for using zstd compressed images but not for others. mkuzip(8) mentions scripts at the start of the compressed images. The scri= pts exist but don't work. (I'll report that as a separate bug.) The document = also mentions that the scripts use mount_cd9660. 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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 272260 | bectl(8) usage: -? 1 problems total for which you should take action. --17046612091.3aa07D7e2.97384 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 21:00:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
------------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------
Open        |    272260 | bectl(8) usage: -?

1 problems total for which you should take action.
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