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MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[emulation@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52e:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XSC422Npvz43T3 X-Spamd-Bar: - --000000000000777a2806247797b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [[ sorry for the lag $LIFE has been over-full lately ]] On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 3:56=E2=80=AFAM Alex Benn=C3=A9e wrote: > Warner Losh writes: > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 2:53=E2=80=AFAM Warner Losh wro= te: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:24=E2=80=AFAM Alex Benn=C3=A9e > wrote: > > > > One output from this discussion should be a clear statement that we ar= e > > going forward with this work and the road map. A rough roadmap might > > look like: > > > > - 9.2 --enable-rust is available and developers can build with it. > > rust devices have -x-device or -rust-device CLI flags for > > runtime selection. > > > > - 10.x rust devices feature complete and migration compatible, > enabled > > by default when rust compiler detected. No CLI selection > > required as legacy portions won't be built. Any partial > > conversions should be behind --enable-prototype-rust configu= re > > flag. > > > > - 11.x distros have enough infrastructure to build on supported > > platforms. Rust becomes a mandatory dependency, old C versio= ns > > of converted code removed from build. > > > > - xx.y QEMU becomes a pure native rust program and all C is expunge= d. > > We may never get to this point. > > > > We should publish the intention and the road map prominently although = it > > was unclear if a blog post would be the best place vs expanding a > > section in the developers manual. Perhaps both make sense with a blog > > post for the statement of intent and rough timeline and the developer > > manual being expanded with any new rules and standards to follow? > > > > FreeBSD is Tier 1 in rust only for amd64 (x86_64). It's Tier 2 for i38= 6 > (which > > admittedly is going away) and Tier 3 for everything else. > > > > oops, I should have said it's Tier 2 with hosts for amd64, Tier 2 w/o > hosts and > > tier 3 for aarch64 (and everything else). In FreeBSD, amd64 and aarch64 > are > > tier 1 supported platforms and I got those confused. It is an important > difference > > and later in my email I refer to it, so I thought a correction was in > > order. > > Are there any other big projects coming down the line that have > indicated a need for rust support? There's a few things that may happen to help drive rust. People have written a few things in rust that they hope to make default once FreeBSD finishes its transition to pkgbase (though that's some time in the future). There's also a desire to experiment with rust drivers in the kernel for more fringe features to see if that helps us get done faster. > Obviously you don't have to worry > about the Linux kernel but I wonder how much rust userspace you > currently have packaged? Do you have the rust-vmm vhost-device binaries > for example? > Yes. I believe we build those today. I expect it to mostly work, most of the time, to be honest on FreeBSD. I also expect there to be more breakage than we see with llvm/clang... So the bottom line should be that we'll be able to make it work, but there is likely going to be more work since rust is less mature than C. However, it's not clear if this is an occasional minor thing, or if it becomes major and frequent. And the only way to know that is to take the plunge, so don't let this stop your plans. Warner --000000000000777a2806247797b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[[ sorry=C2=A0for the lag $LIFE has been = over-full lately ]]

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 3:56=E2=80=AFAM Alex Benn=C3=A9e = <alex.bennee@linaro.org>= ; wrote:
Warner = Losh <imp@bsdimp.com= > writes:

> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 2:53=E2=80=AFAM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:24=E2=80=AFAM Alex Benn=C3=A9e <alex.bennee@linaro= .org> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 One output from this discussion should be a clear statement that= we are
>=C2=A0 going forward with this work and the road map. A rough roadmap m= ight
>=C2=A0 look like:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 9.2=C2=A0 =C2=A0--enable-rust is available and develope= rs can build with it.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 rust devices have -x-device o= r -rust-device CLI flags for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 runtime selection.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 10.x=C2=A0 rust devices feature complete and migration = compatible, enabled
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 by default when rust compiler= detected. No CLI selection
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 required as legacy portions w= on't be built. Any partial
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 conversions should be behind = --enable-prototype-rust configure
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 flag.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - 11.x=C2=A0 distros have enough infrastructure to build = on supported
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 platforms. Rust becomes a man= datory dependency, old C versions
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 of converted code removed fro= m build.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - xx.y=C2=A0 QEMU becomes a pure native rust program and = all C is expunged.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 We may never get to this poin= t.
>
>=C2=A0 We should publish the intention and the road map prominently alt= hough it
>=C2=A0 was unclear if a blog post would be the best place vs expanding = a
>=C2=A0 section in the developers manual. Perhaps both make sense with a= blog
>=C2=A0 post for the statement of intent and rough timeline and the deve= loper
>=C2=A0 manual being expanded with any new rules and standards to follow= ?
>
>=C2=A0 FreeBSD is Tier 1 in rust only for amd64 (x86_64). It's Tier= 2 for i386 (which
>=C2=A0 admittedly is going away) and Tier 3 for everything else.
>
> oops, I should have said it's Tier 2 with hosts for amd64, Tier 2 = w/o hosts and
> tier 3 for aarch64 (and everything else). In FreeBSD, amd64 and aarch6= 4 are
> tier 1 supported platforms and I got those confused. It is an importan= t difference
> and later in my email I refer to it, so I thought a correction was in<= br> > order.

Are there any other big projects coming down the line that have
indicated a need for rust support?

There= 9;s a few things that may happen to help drive rust. People
have = written a few things in rust that they hope to make default
once = FreeBSD finishes its transition to pkgbase (though that's some
time in the future). There's also a desire to experiment with rust dr= ivers
in the kernel for more fringe features to see if that helps= us get done
faster.
=C2=A0
Obviously you don't have to worry
about the Linux kernel but I wonder how much rust userspace you
currently have packaged? Do you have the rust-vmm vhost-device binaries
for example?

Yes. I believe we build th= ose today.

I expect it to mostly work, most of the= time, to be honest on FreeBSD. I also
expect there to be more br= eakage than we see with llvm/clang...

So the botto= m line should be that we'll be able to make it work, but there
is likely going to be more work since rust is less mature than C. However= ,
it's not clear if this is an occasional minor thing, or if = it becomes major and
frequent. And the only way to know that is t= o take the plunge, so don't
let this stop your plans.

Warner
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--=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Wed Oct 16 17:18:13 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTHjd30Lkz5YmSy for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pkg-fallout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTHjd13KWz4mL2 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pkg-fallout@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729099093; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc; bh=SpTWFoT7lY2zPij1ym8fwvNwaiQX2RgQhU4Q8IfIQuE=; b=ExFUw/RKblQm7Mx86yOLSw49qIOBTz14kFD9UXrk8vGCSmqX84t/nFzFBi0t0wfzZRiFSA BzdxNRuO8PxJrONE+ZDYPv9cFjZHZQDFlptdlHk/POM/i5KoRJS5WX9iSUZPuEHdhynzjH 4rcfLd4PaRBoYgq53ps+YW3uHXWneJGDwd/q/yBwm1WjOYPfpyagffU+P/MR/MHbmpBHxA Nv1eCrO+w4XwvED0dt97l0wcCkFPF270sx6+w9JZnmgo/CsITBVlWlrEHVFGzjre2cUi9g fF7EY4n59NVVryTC5hoPoapO86AuMxpBGoqe3gtSIES7UeW97h2YcJ98Qo21qw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729099093; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SjNs4sV1CxzV4JFDejf+VNIiy3hHQK/5Mzpwp9XzXmqgzT82MD9bqwCk+YMpwbuhkSiGYY EpW/QrdBflt1l4BnoUwkQW15C422MhsYgsHQnIT6OuUxqijiEFdn8V5pUYlATb1DM6hBcU IQd8CIsiwEx3ShsLVizv9aQW+9KKVngQ8RKkmUkoSf1/RBathQqMmgc3HmUml7wJRRuV46 +Vx05TG6flXy7RiMetieMk7eyuUe+v46g+Zlzfi7jByt0EhMyNEyiBY/9YoHW0PCoaJtOo ExcDML4dtLSPe8Nq8/b23PLbJbznLZyhut3BN/Q2DkZeXA2BtAUblh0YM+jCTg== Received: from ampere3.nyi.freebsd.org (ampere3.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6080::16:26]) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTHjd0VBhzF5S for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pkg-fallout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from root (uid 0) (envelope-from pkg-fallout@FreeBSD.org) id 2f3f by ampere3.nyi.freebsd.org (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.13+ on ampere3.nyi.freebsd.org); Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:18:13 +0000 To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [package - 133arm64-default][devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl] Failed for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 in package Cc: pkg-fallout@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:18:13 +0000 Message-Id: <670ff555.2f3f.6f337b9a@ampere3.nyi.freebsd.org> From: List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org You are receiving this mail as a port that you maintain is failing to build on the FreeBSD package build server. 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Maintainer: emulation@FreeBSD.org Log URL: https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ampere3/data/133arm64-default/f06faad6cb80/logs/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6.log Build URL: https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ampere3/build.html?mastername=133arm64-default&build=f06faad6cb80 Log: =>> Building devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl build started at Wed Oct 16 17:18:04 UTC 2024 port directory: /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl package name: linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 building for: FreeBSD 133arm64-default-job-01 13.3-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 13.3-RELEASE-p7 arm64 maintained by: emulation@FreeBSD.org Makefile datestamp: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 583 Sep 14 01:05 /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/Makefile Ports top last git commit: f06faad6cb8 Ports top unclean checkout: no Port dir last git commit: df72b6b948f Port dir unclean checkout: no Poudriere version: poudriere-git-3.4.2 Host OSVERSION: 1500023 Jail OSVERSION: 1303001 Job Id: 01 ---Begin Environment--- SHELL=/bin/csh OSVERSION=1303001 UNAME_v=FreeBSD 13.3-RELEASE-p7 UNAME_r=13.3-RELEASE-p7 BLOCKSIZE=K MAIL=/var/mail/root MM_CHARSET=UTF-8 LANG=C.UTF-8 STATUS=1 HOME=/root PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin MAKE_OBJDIR_CHECK_WRITABLE=0 LOCALBASE=/usr/local USER=root POUDRIERE_NAME=poudriere-git LIBEXECPREFIX=/usr/local/libexec/poudriere POUDRIERE_VERSION=3.4.2 MASTERMNT=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/133arm64-default/ref LC_COLLATE=C POUDRIERE_BUILD_TYPE=bulk PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes SAVED_TERM= OUTPUT_REDIRECTED_STDERR=4 OUTPUT_REDIRECTED=1 PWD=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/133arm64-default/01/.p OUTPUT_REDIRECTED_STDOUT=3 P_PORTS_FEATURES=FLAVORS SUBPACKAGES SELECTED_OPTIONS MASTERNAME=133arm64-default SCRIPTPREFIX=/usr/local/share/poudriere SCRIPTNAME=bulk.sh OLDPWD=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/133arm64-default/ref/.p/pool POUDRIERE_PKGNAME=poudriere-git-3.4.2 SCRIPTPATH=/usr/local/share/poudriere/bulk.sh POUDRIEREPATH=/usr/local/bin/poudriere ---End Environment--- ---Begin Poudriere Port Flags/Env--- PORT_FLAGS= PKGENV= FLAVOR= MAKE_ARGS= ---End Poudriere Port Flags/Env--- ---Begin OPTIONS List--- ===> The following configuration options are available for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6: DOCS=on: Build and/or install documentation ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings ---End OPTIONS List--- --MAINTAINER-- emulation@FreeBSD.org --End MAINTAINER-- --CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --End CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --CONFIGURE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CACHE_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.cache HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work TMPDIR="/tmp" PATH=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.pkgconfig:/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig SHELL=/bin/sh CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh --End CONFIGURE_ENV-- --MAKE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CACHE_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.cache HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work TMPDIR="/tmp" PATH=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.pkgconfig:/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig MK_DEBUG_FILES=no MK_KERNEL_SYMBOLS=no SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/compat/linux LOCALBASE=/usr/local CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -fno-strict-aliasing " CPP="cpp" CPPFLAGS="" LDFLAGS=" -fstack-protector-strong " LIBS="" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -fno-strict-aliasing " BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_LIB="install -s -m 0 644" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -m 0644" BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -m 444" --End MAKE_ENV-- --PLIST_SUB-- PORTDOCS="" OSREL=13.3 PREFIX=%D LOCALBASE=/usr/local RESETPREFIX=/compat/linux LIB32DIR=lib DOCSDIR="usr/share/doc/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6" EXAMPLESDIR="share/examples/libtool-ltdl" DATADIR="usr/share/libtool-ltdl" WWWDIR="www/libtool-ltdl" ETCDIR="etc/libtool-ltdl" --End PLIST_SUB-- --SUB_LIST-- PREFIX=/compat/linux LOCALBASE=/usr/local DATADIR=/compat/linux/usr/share/libtool-ltdl DOCSDIR=/compat/linux/usr/share/doc/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 EXAMPLESDIR=/compat/linux/share/examples/libtool-ltdl WWWDIR=/compat/linux/www/libtool-ltdl ETCDIR=/compat/linux/etc/libtool-ltdl --End SUB_LIST-- ---Begin make.conf--- USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS=yes BATCH=yes WRKDIRPREFIX=/wrkdirs PORTSDIR=/usr/ports PACKAGES=/packages DISTDIR=/distfiles PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes PACKAGE_BUILDING_FLAVORS=yes #### #### # XXX: We really need this but cannot use it while 'make checksum' does not # try the next mirror on checksum failure. It currently retries the same # failed mirror and then fails rather then trying another. It *does* # try the next if the size is mismatched though. #MASTER_SITE_FREEBSD=yes # Build ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS_PACKAGES with 3 jobs MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3 #### Misc Poudriere #### .include "/etc/make.conf.ports_env" GID=0 UID=0 ---End make.conf--- --Resource limits-- cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited file size (512-blocks, -f) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 1048576 stack size (kbytes, -s) 1048576 core file size (512-blocks, -c) unlimited max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max user processes (-u) 89999 open files (-n) 8192 virtual mem size (kbytes, -v) unlimited swap limit (kbytes, -w) unlimited socket buffer size (bytes, -b) unlimited pseudo-terminals (-p) unlimited kqueues (-k) unlimited umtx shared locks (-o) unlimited --End resource limits-- =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found ===> Installing existing package /packages/All/pkg-1.21.3.pkg [133arm64-default-job-01] Installing pkg-1.21.3... [133arm64-default-job-01] Extracting pkg-1.21.3: .......... done ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Returning to build of linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm. =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building ===> Extracting for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm. =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Patching for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Configuring for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on package: linux_base-rl9>=9.2 - not found ===> Installing existing package /packages/All/linux_base-rl9-9.4.pkg [133arm64-default-job-01] Installing linux_base-rl9-9.4... [133arm64-default-job-01] Extracting linux_base-rl9-9.4: .......... done ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on package: linux_base-rl9>=9.2 - found ===> Returning to build of linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Staging for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 ===> Generating temporary packing list (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 && /usr/bin/find * | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/bin -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/bin ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find bin | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r bin) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find lib | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r lib) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib64 -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib64 ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find lib64 | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r lib64) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/sbin -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/sbin ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find sbin | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r sbin) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share/icons -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share/icons ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share && /usr/bin/find icons | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/usr/local/share && /bin/rm -f -r icons) ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man) =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: 'PKG_NOTES=build_timestamp ports_top_git_hash ports_top_checkout_unclean port_git_hash port_checkout_unclean built_by' 'PKG_NOTE_build_timestamp=2024-10-16T17:18:04+0000' 'PKG_NOTE_ports_top_git_hash=f06faad6cb8' 'PKG_NOTE_ports_top_checkout_unclean=no' 'PKG_NOTE_port_git_hash=df72b6b948f' 'PKG_NOTE_port_checkout_unclean=no' 'PKG_NOTE_built_by=poudriere-git-3.4.2' NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Building packages for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 ===> Building linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 pkg-static: Unable to access file /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib/.build-id/d5/a2d8bc853edaa6953f6a06225974005e220a9a:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl From nobody Thu Oct 17 12:32:26 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTnKR3mjsz5YxSh for ; 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Thu, 17 Oct 2024 12:32:26 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 12:32:26 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: iwtcex@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #25 from Alex S --- FYI, now I have to explain all of this to random people and I don't appreci= ate that at all: https://github.com/shkhln/linuxulator-steam-utils/issues/143. 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What is an abuse of the definition of "deprecation"? deprecation =3D "the discouragement of use" It seems entirely appropriate here. `pkg audit` lists unfixed security bugs, and the port maintainer has said they won't be fixed. Thus those ports shou= ld be discouraged from being used. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu Oct 17 13:31:08 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTpdB3zcMz5Z11p for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTpdB202Dz4k3t for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; 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Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49HDVAwZ068277 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:31:10 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49HDVAXn068276 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:31:10 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:31:08 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: iwtcex@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #27 from Alex S --- (In reply to Sean McBride from comment #26) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deprecate: > to withdraw official support for or discourage the use of (something, suc= h as a software product) _in favor of a newer or better alternative_ (emphasis mine) Also, it's pretty clear from the linux_base-c7 _remaining the default setti= ng_ in the ports, it's not quite discouraged yet, never mind alternatives not b= eing ready. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu Oct 17 13:34:50 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTpjR1l1Mz5Z1kR for ; 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For me, anything that still gets security updates is better than anything that doesn't get security updates. 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #30 from Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa --- (In reply to Alex S from comment #27) I agree this situation is far from ideal, but leaving the c7 packages as if nothing happened would have been detrimental for users. I think it is better that they are aware those packages are deprecated upstream and they will not get any security updates. The documentation only recommends c7 if 32 bit support is necessary. In that case it is at users' discretion to do so. I'm open to clarify the docs if necessary. Replacing/adding another Linux emulation package set is very costly and won't happen anytime soon. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu Oct 17 16:38:11 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTtn051R5z5ZCSl for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTtn03YRVz46pl for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729183092; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PRdGpuBT10TppL2bzCalQ8oEqbeJW6kSkgR+dSC5S4s=; b=CCUbxpEE3FiuyWT2MokQQrfDETlkGrbDiegvVhInj/3pvuT6aQM9pMYPRk9y3EE+EFrKd3 sm+KCWpsIAz5jWrB+f4yLlPZoYESTO+JsQiDkjOsBaNeXCtXwjkExJ/W4I81kpgiXJkS8o 2MNY0EQmuZQ2q6ZCHHHGrELQSq0esI3mjrjpHD5c03rjcafWIlGRGJcSALR+Ba+xiQ4tNv p2OidZISY5oFrKikkyu4mbJVA8mK4ihMMOcIS54zdqpUQXUm280acgAeaSwZWKelqsH60C 31KUHKyBUtfzIVorRFeGBoJQS0gyiN3Ms9mJzRuTHMqH1KgDkmaP8JRRe6zhaQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729183092; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=q9nFN1EGWXBjN4nL1B8eVdcjAbby3k5mZ30aZP020FnzZB7XPQEzVs3QmBZGph2hxtkbfw QtZem4/aJCIlj+WbASIrNFrbGW0n2/K2UQmTyZwwDThcqn1aVILTCrr6EPuAR58P7Sig8Z vnHTMTJOzmNtPwcXl9+hE2DN1WpOzM8H+OToo1kBLdZKRUjcEFucb6kApzMZJeRyg6GiMy sSW5IcQcULX6K4ncnZe+wunfaDsABsWS1Az2dwbfuX5pk7NBhAJySAo5RrMSN39hfDdzu1 YEm0FmINA3XbBdbTJicH/eOBB5zKobqR4iSfeH/X9fLpWw94X76cBHczKj9GJA== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTtn02dFGzxd4 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49HGcCB4077044 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:38:12 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49HGcCi2077043 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:38:12 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:38:11 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: ziaee@runbox.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #31 from Alexander Ziaee --- This needs a better warning because a giant use case of where Linuxulator w= orks today is 32 bit software. Maintainer said his users were astonished because something is printing a g= iant warning not to use a piece of software which has no replacement. Now his us= ers and Sean are talking down to him without putting any effort into understand= ing the situation. 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To install the CentOS 7 userland execute the following comman= d:" ``` --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu Oct 17 17:16:23 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTvd32XSyz5ZFCk for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTvd30jlNz4D06 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729185383; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=KlrqS9lEt1re46v6m+uK2lFIluzIoqIopWWCWuGIJcw=; b=PXKP1t7gAGmc2Go3aO7COJ7IaFh5U32s2u+PBHgaaCPwY6CZiZB2S3UYBJyclvEiK1WXS2 7qU6vMI9zeSSZ72FofPUZUyE7iCKlB0G5YI3Mk9wOXm/pE4vtycfycR/6zPFPcpIbATUTn EVJAfKL14RrYXI0mxvXdNxZgPJZDFVTECMCINNGM16t4Sdq6eT2zFJZXl7O1SR6YB65gwK r6uPiZ6nnP8p/EodROHPgJFK/uoGtHXAp3kL4ZXCfgOd1rW72B6/8Uw7zc0Ak6JeS73Dh2 OJgLhcNDx7G3c1p6UfU8UFqEVv1w1zG9JWcCPBAOMdRSQDnYf7/0p4p71qkhhw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729185383; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ry3zvEJYfyHFUIQdhDhPRJ/KkqbVCA4Kd7sI2t2KqExJqAkDfyU4EGgTEgxSSk21Fm0DUB 0XqR1OzBp5pB6UM8Mgw/oUWIhwtxluu8OZbNAgVvMYTcWBXuDPLqGL5hV5NBzHLeQYHOe8 82V8hFQyin3yMvnlNz2cUWFaBFvCE8DSphwH0xCfrQ4/KPP6KOv+RaZxLWrSmRCUmgrzMk DJBil/1khC9pZsDIjl/g87kryeEM6kF6R2IDSg/15Dr2UutHwOqOOVVBsJwCa7kvaqybND 1ligXAmwGZn0nxnLobXvwdmrkPz8SCTJVIXkhVqz0cIveVTYEHdpwYVRYndBqA== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTvd30LDszyLr for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49HHGMeF037353 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:16:22 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49HHGM9X037352 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:16:22 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:16:23 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #35 from Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa --- (In reply to Alexander Ziaee from comment #34) The inconvenient I see with this message is that it is not explicit with the fact that the packages will not receive security updates. I think we need t= o be transparent about that in the message. Also I think we should recommend rl9 packages if they work for the user purposes... And this should be no doubt a warning, not a normal text. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu Oct 17 17:24:37 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTvpY3CQ0z5ZGK3 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTvpY14T4z4DJx for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729185877; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=waG+uHiFVAF3y9r14mL6Zw5z0SqiLQ7XAhryuHomYc8=; b=E0qGtLq56zm3kaqGwCMqe27Ise6NEHpdK61+fNRTPdgGsjOqVq7AgOYlFSfmRcDZw/8ImD PQKiPY8g8Rp0VYD8WMSUcrlW9zCV20LpgeZt3qVaV4RTzae66XTWHRzGharv1ZbIHYM2YH FttLurGsJrNfOWDjd2P5g8qYNQdVYsjm+3IicQkxSt2K3gFArBGS8pOrXbzZcg475kXfBt ULT0ntgkSULNd65lrnVZMMcuIi+isTT+++jSXrPPINBlxIDWkH5lTypf0ikdkH05QtjpZF mDJtF4/viwiCH7/jwcma6mvVC6wBc56vsgu/UwTxeO0sNJK2oRzyE6Km1LatQw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729185877; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SFBtFLEC3Ld09zTKEUJKkdMEMN5CPTTnCTTEcCYE3SmaEc8lOteL4Ufmq+RvMv2ifND5gq vdwExhpR6SgjTySa3yeXJeyp7tc0dE1iPQJ3oiX7Gj8y8ehmoDZ4lnwbRhe8zWoPRUowl9 CYnZdX40l4YwVnFRUKrw4tGHLJFuUzmX9vBBpEV78offIRVHxsDmQXcgBAAmQg4J6iwRY6 H40iAaDfPFR62YtP8D1qShSz+n6ZRLkU/Q2FRg+rvRrvGNubrEN7FqycjqNQG1hq7wMh8d D0NOEqzApxs+TUWcjHZrL0Xv3bHHYfknpK2gUQffG9gmAUKJmjWYoH93GEfp3w== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTvpY0hW3zyMf for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49HHOa4c050893 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:24:36 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49HHOaIt050891 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:24:36 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:24:37 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: ziaee@runbox.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #36 from Alexander Ziaee --- Opening up with warning boxes makes everyone complain loudly, that is the c= ause of this in the first place, not any actual security breaches. By being more explicit about CentOS 7, and even using the word deprecated, the user should understand that is ancient and obviously not recieving updates. Similar to = how we provide ftp support. It is for compat, and people know it is for compat,= and it is an amazing feature that helps people for that. ``` "FreeBSD provides the deprecated CentOS 7 userland for running 32-bit Linux applications. To install the CentOS 7 userland execute the following comma= nd:" ``` Look at what we did with sysexits for example. The functionality is describ= ed first: https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dsysexits&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D= 0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+15.0-CURRENT&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 03:42:43 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XV9Wm48jvz5YcQ0 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XV9Wm36wTz4NwY for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729222964; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2OnnoQ2UpX/FdTBpPz/zWavPvO5SMhgLz0GmqlDZ5MY=; b=LxcIKjUNlVx9FNd5l2+CEhW2EpjnVQc9a25gLqDSnl9GHV6IwN2i7PH3yr5yX18OO0uieo Ieqa+Sl4mfIawP3lWtBxTiYLyVccEi5pz4lYtf5yGfbVkn4YiFvkowMzRXPe65y/OnTTeE NENo8Fy2jiLG7fkv6PXFrI9sQk9LLBRbRCOhCNtye91zXV63VFGLk5xzjxfvPAYdIlgznu ZmGG6LMmgPeH17SND4JSlFBCxef06Z+k8Q9G6yv03Kf8MLOX1gQ9TiIf9J7vegiG9Iy6th mhrJZVwhA25BwWySFykJAnex/5SBn4qdyu4v8/jXxDjQ6pJcRvha+Vpw3U4yDg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729222964; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rIVqcYhbR+45pGhrw6vQACdsdiZhCR/ukRvpdzyrWqjyGxMrrG0YRIDBt7US0WG72vFC3e vk/xA5n8HpGZXAn+/JpXLUw0kSa384RJipVzQzZZsfJVqQh5cpuPvdhT3QUAdI1pozxC5h S4iU7C0ilF43KjkEvWsisnkMF1/PIA7cYn9fYdhCLIIoOXm1MkXO3uLni35oSADOEavFxD fyl2bBlf/AUehvA5JW23gTlgmJdqEZHKb1/8wAfVmeXtKCv2FWlcEkysfS6X5n02OfdplK BSCDTr+nzD2zjjI266hN8txNmU8CSaBPhGDkOulSdBVCMJheAWJwsMsjaBpLtA== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XV9Wm2kgHzJ7r for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49I3gi9x000750 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:42:44 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49I3giPD000748 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:42:44 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 03:42:43 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: sean@rogue-research.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #37 from Sean McBride --- >Now his users and Sean are talking down to him... For the record, I'm not talking down to anyone. I've explained my view forthrightly. "better" really is subjective. There's nothing wrong with the= use case of, for example, games on i386, but what's better there is genuinely n= ot what's better in other scenarios. i386 is currently Tier 2, and projected to be unsupported in FreeBSD 15.x, = so IMHO the docs should concentrate on the more mainstream use case. 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This has nothing to do with i386 hardw= are or server. This issue is about 32-bit application support on current hardware, which y= es in 2024, there are plenty of for the desktop use case, which is extremely important to the "not driving away next generation" use case. Maintainer maintains a current, 32-bit desktop application for FreeBSD call= ed "Steam" which is generally working on FreeBSD and is (cross platform total) used by ~62 million people each day. These warnings make users yell inappropriately, because this is *the curren= tly working method* of running *current* 32-bit linux applications on current hardware, on current freebsd. These commits are, I think unintentionally, deprecating working *32-bit lin= ux application support*. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 06:48:08 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVFdh63yCz5YpQ9 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 06:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVFdh5450z4byd for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 06:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #39 from Alexander Ziaee --- Being able to use an operating system for day to day desktop tasks is an important use case for younger talent deciding if they want to learn freebs= d, which is required for maintaining a healthy freebsd software ecosystem on server. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 09:36:23 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVKMs6VkFz5Z07K for ; 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Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:36:25 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:36:23 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: iwtcex@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #40 from Alex S --- FWIW, linux_base packages only exist to serve as dependencies of other packages. They are _not supposed_ be directly installed in the way the docs currently suggest. It doesn't really make sense to discuss their usage out = of ports tree. All of our packaged Linux apps are either desktop apps or... ga= me servers. (In reply to Sean McBride from comment #37) > i386 is currently Tier 2, and projected to be unsupported in FreeBSD 15.x You aren't willing to pay even a minimal amount of attention: Steam is structured in way that requires 32-bit compat to run 64-bit apps on an amd64 machine. No 32-bit compat =3D no Steam. Think what you will about it, but i= t's an upstream requirement and they aren't budging. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 15:39:03 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVTQK1WQyz5ZMhD for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVTQJ5t25z4fcN for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729265944; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=h8ClhIuyLX6n/+xPw5XELukeIe+nXtjkBK3ZJNQ26f0=; b=otLSmFuhy79SGizzN6Zk0n9WhmmWan2Ia+ZO9lm0GDpgQtZcRkC5rcBEgZard0XRTtaG1M 8jisKSXJoXzVVpm3ERk+A/HfE18bwVup40O8aTAswzkaRSZKh+RDXCr8OLUPCyctKq6Pt5 NmWHABmtWQIhEU89qe5BC4UqIpy73D3R710WraLdgDJxoK+ZYUhydFNYzG3qEw6Q6k7Ndr kxa+I/bUDH6+q+WCCPSm+oqyg/B+leY8/6aSkglYrd3JyRU/wEarIqq3PRW0rVV1yx9fQf tILBjAirfRLSQe91DhHpraADiXzIsRN/FOjd8yUXi1j4Z9kIjOS81HNg19JrZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729265944; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Ntfl8JZTZ8x360WkY36OaAOsUWucn5ZoF2b3FFDz8kFxeLDXOzlB6b/+jESTxZxt6Hyj8u lHoXE/ZdhDnalcZOjxd/gZqxLWwBaw8W2N5qqClt5hWBF995KhmkE2g37phDx1eHtdVA/O pqb+kNerwMojwHMv37T8N9+PThwjdbiBz9zJRlu0l6Cqi2fbn193QyQXPN5oFF3G0zzN/2 sN9CIBoEeXa0EnR+hWQhprgJjLybqPqSc5u9gLnqbBhH6uUbExtlQTQ0laiaNmI9JxLxID SFQb0zCfQk8E0oUwdRrhFtk5J2nvNVXXowrj24slqEkNduYLv/cSQd4CpVKjTg== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVTQJ5L9hzg76 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49IFd4Sf077699 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:39:04 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49IFd4e0077698 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:39:04 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:39:03 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #41 from Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa --- (In reply to Alexander Ziaee from comment #36) Yes, but sysexits are unlikely to show security issues in the future unlike= a port. See the approach we do for "unamaintained" ports: "The ${dp_PKGBASE} port currently does not have a maintainer. As a result, = it is more likely to have unresolved issues, not be up-to-date, or even be remove= d in the future..." This is pretty explicit about the state of the port and its implications. I don't think it is a good idea to conceal that from the users. I understand some (many?) linux programs need 32-bit compatibility. I just = want users to *understand the risks* of installing c7 ports. Some people install linux emulation to run things that can be run in 64 bits mode. Those people should also be pointed to rl9 ports since they are way m= ore modern and they are still updated. Also, the warning at the beginning of the Centos section was explicitly pla= ce there as a consequence of some feedback in the review. How about this? It is less alarming (IMO), but clear enough: ``` The emulators/linux_base-c7 port is no longer maintained upstream and will = not receive further security updates. Users who require 32-bit compatibility may continue to use emulators/linux_base-c7, though caution is advised due to potential security vulnerabilities. For users working in a 64-bit environme= nt, it is recommended to migrate to the Rocky Linux Base System (emulators/linux_base-rl9), which is actively maintained and supported. ``` --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 16:00:04 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVTtY443cz5ZNbN for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVTtX73Ndz4hNb for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729267205; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=66P3jnnNA3z7C+KJvyw1THmaNNVJgz83gwL+CU1UkYk=; b=X7JpRtkd5kKlsLJNwtjPMTJPZsZucvXTr2e3Qg481DBGVmU0b38MEZ5CSDjU+UYRFb5JB6 ZaqHwTrC+mO/1QKizU+AvtSDImxuq5s1+RvxQtT5Aub5AkzPktwGYl4LtXOkYJXr1OVRo9 fed8LqQhhJ8/MTAaCB/lqPt1HdgdlqXkzOq7kwWlxLoGi1fJwTBUZM1kMTRC++Rb9VD6G+ 4tVJbTQ7sFg+jYXPk5SGihczsYcfjQ8m1yeEpdonP+Ia3/mS7/NmvBuVJGMxBvimixmbPl hiXW8YSjNc9N7m9t+Er73tzqwS6ikc6BKWn3kZ/rr3xAPYlYzNGBtMUb4eujkg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729267205; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=vF/41rwiqqXuTQfuFI4nhKUmqib9kDPjuoEqNyRATOSej6aij9ZX0XCCfet023NvHwXEva DqlbQIJVnn5CaFbJqI+WqXwiKYg0wF8/uRP5tB9y/nwU7G7EOUg0swXoYX8nU0DwK5TqHl UmokODhYTwxQTQMMlwkmNJk0Bly7QuDlZENA9UInsjzOqULBbF3gfEasBDEHYEeeSVVlJa 5iULWOyX6uBzCvCek0bZ6vuPWxYfH8QbXpqun/7EHPdCv6aIvvysJIUHc3fe5As+wzkI8w pln399jLl9dkHgyEzA0IEsnZR+0hQ09HT7aVojHlAcoKHb9TBFLTMqaNPrQWGg== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVTtX6T26zgBR for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49IG04Lc008012 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:00:04 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49IG04nm008006 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:00:04 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:00:04 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: sean@rogue-research.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #42 from Sean McBride --- >Being able to use an operating system for day to day desktop tasks is an i= mportant use case for younger talent deciding if they want to learn freebsd= , which is required for maintaining a healthy freebsd software ecosystem on= server. I agree completely. >... this is *the currently working method* of running *current* 32-bit lin= ux applications on current hardware, on current freebsd. I see. Indeed I had misunderstood it being about 32 bit hardware, sorry abo= ut that. >These warnings make users yell inappropriately... Not sure it's so inappropriate honestly, after all, what you're saying is t= hat the current best method is based on a dead upstream (CentOS 7). That's far = from ideal. But understandably not easy to fix. But this ticket is about the docs, and I for one have no objection to them being clarified further to point out those deprecated packages are the only= way for this use case. Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa your new text lgtm. >Some people install linux emulation to run things that can be run in 64 bi= ts mode That was the case for me. I used linux_base-c7 because it was the first th= ing listed in the handbook. 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That reassures the reader that something they can understand is going on here. Opening up with a warning box before the reader knows what's going on is too emotionally jarring. That is why they complain so agressive= ly and by the time they get to wherever they're going to complain, they aren't ready to get any information about what is going on. Can we convey the information of 1. What is going on in this chapter and 2.= The security risk involve; without terrorizing the user? The proposed text is better than before, but opening a chapter with a warni= ng box causes users to stop reading there, and then go complain about our operating system. Similar to how our wayland chapter opened with an argueme= nt instead of a synopsis until this year, and most people just assumed it didn= 't work and complained, often not to us, which hurts our reputation. Can we use a combination of both? Clear warning in normal text in opening, immediately after explaining purpose: ``` FreeBSD provides the CentOS 7 userland for users who require 32-bit Linux application compatibility. Note that it is no longer maintained upstream and will not receive further security updates. To install the CentOS 7 userland execute the following command: # pkg install linux_base-c7 emulators/linux_base-c7 will place the base system derived from CentOS 7 in= to /compat/linux. ``` No one who is capable of successfully configuring and using freebsd could m= iss that, I hope. However it doesn't read like someone is screaming at you. Fre= eBSD desktop is for nerds, and they get very alarmed when someone is screaming at them. That is why I wrote the synopsis of the wayland chapter having never before or since used wayland. Previously it opened directly into arguing and which is emotionally jarring and creates a massive social problem. 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 Thibault Payet changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |monwarez@mailoo.org --- Comment #44 from Thibault Payet --- So basically, now the handbook have a big warning for centos7, while giving advice to use ubuntu bionic which don't get security update unless you are paying for extended support. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Sat Oct 19 02:49:23 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVmHm0d2Zz5ZXYm for ; 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Maintainer: emulation@FreeBSD.org Log URL: https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ampere1/data/133arm64-quarterly/db5128afdb13/logs/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6.log Build URL: https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ampere1/build.html?mastername=133arm64-quarterly&build=db5128afdb13 Log: =>> Building devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl build started at Sat Oct 19 02:49:14 UTC 2024 port directory: /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl package name: linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 building for: FreeBSD 133arm64-quarterly-job-12 13.3-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 13.3-RELEASE-p7 arm64 maintained by: emulation@FreeBSD.org Makefile datestamp: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 583 Oct 15 01:02 /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/Makefile Ports top last git commit: db5128afd Ports top unclean checkout: no Port dir last git commit: db5128afd Port dir unclean checkout: no Poudriere version: poudriere-git-3.4.2 Host OSVERSION: 1500023 Jail OSVERSION: 1303001 Job Id: 12 ---Begin Environment--- SHELL=/bin/csh OSVERSION=1303001 UNAME_v=FreeBSD 13.3-RELEASE-p7 UNAME_r=13.3-RELEASE-p7 BLOCKSIZE=K MAIL=/var/mail/root MM_CHARSET=UTF-8 LANG=C.UTF-8 STATUS=1 HOME=/root PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin MAKE_OBJDIR_CHECK_WRITABLE=0 LOCALBASE=/usr/local USER=root POUDRIERE_NAME=poudriere-git LIBEXECPREFIX=/usr/local/libexec/poudriere POUDRIERE_VERSION=3.4.2 MASTERMNT=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/133arm64-quarterly/ref LC_COLLATE=C POUDRIERE_BUILD_TYPE=bulk PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes SAVED_TERM= OUTPUT_REDIRECTED_STDERR=4 OUTPUT_REDIRECTED=1 PWD=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/133arm64-quarterly/12/.p OUTPUT_REDIRECTED_STDOUT=3 P_PORTS_FEATURES=FLAVORS SUBPACKAGES SELECTED_OPTIONS MASTERNAME=133arm64-quarterly SCRIPTPREFIX=/usr/local/share/poudriere SCRIPTNAME=bulk.sh OLDPWD=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/133arm64-quarterly/ref/.p/pool POUDRIERE_PKGNAME=poudriere-git-3.4.2 SCRIPTPATH=/usr/local/share/poudriere/bulk.sh POUDRIEREPATH=/usr/local/bin/poudriere ---End Environment--- ---Begin Poudriere Port Flags/Env--- PORT_FLAGS= PKGENV= FLAVOR= MAKE_ARGS= ---End Poudriere Port Flags/Env--- ---Begin OPTIONS List--- ===> The following configuration options are available for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6: DOCS=on: Build and/or install documentation ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings ---End OPTIONS List--- --MAINTAINER-- emulation@FreeBSD.org --End MAINTAINER-- --CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --End CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --CONFIGURE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CACHE_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.cache HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work TMPDIR="/tmp" PATH=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.pkgconfig:/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig SHELL=/bin/sh CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh --End CONFIGURE_ENV-- --MAKE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CACHE_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.cache HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work TMPDIR="/tmp" PATH=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.pkgconfig:/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig MK_DEBUG_FILES=no MK_KERNEL_SYMBOLS=no SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/compat/linux LOCALBASE=/usr/local CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -fno-strict-aliasing " CPP="cpp" CPPFLAGS="" LDFLAGS=" -fstack-protector-strong " LIBS="" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -fno-strict-aliasing " BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_LIB="install -s -m 0 644" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -m 0644" BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -m 444" --End MAKE_ENV-- --PLIST_SUB-- PORTDOCS="" OSREL=13.3 PREFIX=%D LOCALBASE=/usr/local RESETPREFIX=/compat/linux LIB32DIR=lib DOCSDIR="usr/share/doc/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6" EXAMPLESDIR="share/examples/libtool-ltdl" DATADIR="usr/share/libtool-ltdl" WWWDIR="www/libtool-ltdl" ETCDIR="etc/libtool-ltdl" --End PLIST_SUB-- --SUB_LIST-- PREFIX=/compat/linux LOCALBASE=/usr/local DATADIR=/compat/linux/usr/share/libtool-ltdl DOCSDIR=/compat/linux/usr/share/doc/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 EXAMPLESDIR=/compat/linux/share/examples/libtool-ltdl WWWDIR=/compat/linux/www/libtool-ltdl ETCDIR=/compat/linux/etc/libtool-ltdl --End SUB_LIST-- ---Begin make.conf--- USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS=yes BATCH=yes WRKDIRPREFIX=/wrkdirs PORTSDIR=/usr/ports PACKAGES=/packages DISTDIR=/distfiles PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes PACKAGE_BUILDING_FLAVORS=yes #### #### # XXX: We really need this but cannot use it while 'make checksum' does not # try the next mirror on checksum failure. It currently retries the same # failed mirror and then fails rather then trying another. It *does* # try the next if the size is mismatched though. #MASTER_SITE_FREEBSD=yes # Build ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS_PACKAGES with 3 jobs MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3 #### Misc Poudriere #### .include "/etc/make.conf.ports_env" GID=0 UID=0 ---End make.conf--- --Resource limits-- cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited file size (512-blocks, -f) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 1048576 stack size (kbytes, -s) 1048576 core file size (512-blocks, -c) unlimited max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max user processes (-u) 89999 open files (-n) 8192 virtual mem size (kbytes, -v) unlimited swap limit (kbytes, -w) unlimited socket buffer size (bytes, -b) unlimited pseudo-terminals (-p) unlimited kqueues (-k) unlimited umtx shared locks (-o) unlimited --End resource limits-- =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found ===> Installing existing package /packages/All/pkg-1.21.3.pkg [133arm64-quarterly-job-12] Installing pkg-1.21.3... [133arm64-quarterly-job-12] Extracting pkg-1.21.3: .......... done ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Returning to build of linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user => l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm doesn't seem to exist in /portdistfiles/rocky. => Attempting to fetch https://dl.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9.4/BaseOS/aarch64/os/Packages/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm fetch: https://dl.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9.4/BaseOS/aarch64/os/Packages/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm: Not Found => Attempting to fetch https://dl.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9.4/AppStream/aarch64/os/Packages/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm 35 kB 24 MBps 00s => l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm doesn't seem to exist in /portdistfiles/rocky. => Attempting to fetch https://dl.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9.4/BaseOS/source/tree/Packages/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm fetch: https://dl.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9.4/BaseOS/source/tree/Packages/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm: Not Found => Attempting to fetch https://dl.rockylinux.org/pub/rocky/9.4/AppStream/source/tree/Packages/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm 977 kB 54 MBps 00s ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm. =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building ===> Extracting for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm. =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Patching for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Configuring for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on package: linux_base-rl9>=9.2 - not found ===> Installing existing package /packages/All/linux_base-rl9-9.4.pkg [133arm64-quarterly-job-12] Installing linux_base-rl9-9.4... [133arm64-quarterly-job-12] Extracting linux_base-rl9-9.4: .......... done ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on package: linux_base-rl9>=9.2 - found ===> Returning to build of linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Staging for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 ===> Generating temporary packing list (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 && /usr/bin/find * | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/bin -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/bin ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find bin | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r bin) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find lib | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r lib) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib64 -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib64 ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find lib64 | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r lib64) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/sbin -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/sbin ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find sbin | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r sbin) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share/icons -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share/icons ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share && /usr/bin/find icons | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/usr/local/share && /bin/rm -f -r icons) ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man) =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: 'PKG_NOTES=build_timestamp ports_top_git_hash ports_top_checkout_unclean port_git_hash port_checkout_unclean built_by' 'PKG_NOTE_build_timestamp=2024-10-19T02:49:14+0000' 'PKG_NOTE_ports_top_git_hash=db5128afd' 'PKG_NOTE_ports_top_checkout_unclean=no' 'PKG_NOTE_port_git_hash=db5128afd' 'PKG_NOTE_port_checkout_unclean=no' 'PKG_NOTE_built_by=poudriere-git-3.4.2' NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Building packages for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 ===> Building linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 pkg-static: Unable to access file /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib/.build-id/d5/a2d8bc853edaa6953f6a06225974005e220a9a:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl From nobody Sat Oct 19 09:58:28 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVxps58Bpz5ZvGf for ; 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Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:58:28 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #45 from Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa --- (In reply to Alexander Ziaee from comment #43) > Can we convey the information of 1. What is going on in this chapter and = 2. The > security risk involve; without terrorizing the user? "terrorizing"? Really? Quite an hyperbole I think. > Can we use a combination of both? Clear warning in normal text in opening, Clear warning in normal text is a contradiction in itself. *Many* people do= n't read the text paragraph. Installing the linux base packages is a oneliner. People see the oneliner, execute it and go on with their lives :-) > FreeBSD desktop is for nerds, and they get very alarmed when someone is s= creaming at them. That was very uncalled for. Don't use that adjective and/or assume people h= ave some kind of specific mental trait. > Then if a warning box is truly improving the security environment it can = go at the end like usual boxes? This was discussed in the review, and nobody objected. Only after the commit which is unfortunate and kind of unfair if you ask me. See https://reviews.freebsd.org/D47017#inline-281657 Note that I don't say this commit is perfect (or even good) because it had a backing review. What I say is that this discussion should have happened the= re. Now, the *objective truth*, the *fact* is that c7 packages are *deprecated upstream*. And we know what that means: no bugfixing, no security updates. What I see here: https://github.com/shkhln/linuxulator-steam-utils/issues/1= 43 is people saying the package is going away, which is false. The package does not have an EXPIRATION_DATE. The same way, an unmaintained port does not go away, but it means it is more likely to have unresolved issues. The other thing I see in that link is someone saying "I kind of expected the same people that contributed the newer linux base to do the necessary preparation work".=20 Well, patches are always welcome. The fact that we have a new linux base system has nothing to do with the fa= ct that c7 packages are deprecated upstream. 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The o= nly advice to install one linux base system instead of another is for the c7 - = rl9 *64bit* scenario. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Sat Oct 19 23:58:18 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XWJRt20WXz5ZT81 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XWJRt0ybPz4WGm for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729382298; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=GNF+3OD9wHTN4i7fuRL6/jhRBIg/TPHTFeE5n439UOM=; b=p6c48RKMaDaX2jeu+aiGnMkPB0GwgdK3pl+70CBD8f4UzkJxe5AwGVq7+WxefI1TWWtHrA fur7yABKZkVd7+5Nk6Buv/mybdRDKZhUDZ/XA1kjWDN7LJimRzI7NY7s29C9aymk57BkcR OMpCvdG37l43NPvkT/QsWgl0/ySOQdtDzY6ojV5Xil8wqgRnb1yfUGubC8dBTY6wDXdupV 1Oxy0VuBqEo4Un/C9lEmYSF97QZLUd8GZ6bv0P+UNMxzzYte/TvR4O+0Rcq3QFf0VHyMeB B69TiOYhXr+0x1VtsSRyueMPciPawE5BNlrwE1ZCQtVXdPL+wEmIFODgFukt1A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729382298; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=tMVfLYYxgRiUlDn1b4nAiF9nwbRvhnfyW42gZocsGvtgu5eceQpo49CG6jMcJK+V+B/z/9 RPX/WkUn4QAN5waKVolvK2mL853hAZIxo8WZQNLPGa2ekKcuBBycoPmboDi1q9508p3XmB EDrggjyVqBhASNkx31MnryTH0rOgVpb0GjQyrRolJK0AW03TePGD/ZTcnmHYyIiFEoNpnw 5Zh3OYQaXG8XJBcf/mPLPY94bYfe2sxZ105RRh9BHdSUnUf3yfyLvcmeTFtzBZw15Jr158 CAfU9xVPNPpeXoB8R+reFN1k+/mJnit3zLl127xCnLRgtTYpFkE7GODeuIup1A== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XWJRt0S3TzfBc for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49JNwHG8075875 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:58:17 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49JNwH0g075874 for emulation@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:58:17 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:58:18 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: ziaee@runbox.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #47 from Alexander Ziaee --- Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was very suprised to hear that nerds is an offensive term, I have never heard of that before, and I meant absolutely no offense whatsoever. Yes sir, a big red warning as the opening of a chapter, before the reader k= nows what the chapter is for or about, is always terrorizing the reader. 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Expect build failures. !!! ---Begin Environment--- SHELL=/bin/sh OSVERSION=1500025 UNAME_v=FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT 1500025 UNAME_r=15.0-CURRENT BLOCKSIZE=K MAIL=/var/mail/root MM_CHARSET=UTF-8 LANG=C.UTF-8 STATUS=1 HOME=/root PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin MAKE_OBJDIR_CHECK_WRITABLE=0 LOCALBASE=/usr/local USER=root POUDRIERE_NAME=poudriere-git LIBEXECPREFIX=/usr/local/libexec/poudriere POUDRIERE_VERSION=3.4.2 MASTERMNT=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/main-arm64-default/ref LC_COLLATE=C POUDRIERE_BUILD_TYPE=bulk PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes SAVED_TERM= OUTPUT_REDIRECTED_STDERR=4 OUTPUT_REDIRECTED=1 PWD=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/main-arm64-default/10/.p OUTPUT_REDIRECTED_STDOUT=3 P_PORTS_FEATURES=FLAVORS SUBPACKAGES SELECTED_OPTIONS MASTERNAME=main-arm64-default SCRIPTPREFIX=/usr/local/share/poudriere SCRIPTNAME=bulk.sh OLDPWD=/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/main-arm64-default/ref/.p/pool POUDRIERE_PKGNAME=poudriere-git-3.4.2 SCRIPTPATH=/usr/local/share/poudriere/bulk.sh POUDRIEREPATH=/usr/local/bin/poudriere ---End Environment--- ---Begin Poudriere Port Flags/Env--- PORT_FLAGS= PKGENV= FLAVOR= MAKE_ARGS= ---End Poudriere Port Flags/Env--- ---Begin OPTIONS List--- ===> The following configuration options are available for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6: DOCS=on: Build and/or install documentation ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings ---End OPTIONS List--- --MAINTAINER-- emulation@FreeBSD.org --End MAINTAINER-- --CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --End CONFIGURE_ARGS-- --CONFIGURE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CACHE_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.cache HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work TMPDIR="/tmp" PATH=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.pkgconfig:/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig SHELL=/bin/sh CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh --End CONFIGURE_ENV-- --MAKE_ENV-- XDG_DATA_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work XDG_CACHE_HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.cache HOME=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work TMPDIR="/tmp" PATH=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/.pkgconfig:/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig MK_DEBUG_FILES=no MK_KERNEL_SYMBOLS=no SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/compat/linux LOCALBASE=/usr/local CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -fno-strict-aliasing " CPP="cpp" CPPFLAGS="" LDFLAGS=" -fstack-protector-strong " LIBS="" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong -fno-strict-aliasing " BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_LIB="install -s -m 0 644" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -m 0644" BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -m 444" --End MAKE_ENV-- --PLIST_SUB-- PORTDOCS="" OSREL=15.0 PREFIX=%D LOCALBASE=/usr/local RESETPREFIX=/compat/linux LIB32DIR=lib DOCSDIR="usr/share/doc/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6" EXAMPLESDIR="share/examples/libtool-ltdl" DATADIR="usr/share/libtool-ltdl" WWWDIR="www/libtool-ltdl" ETCDIR="etc/libtool-ltdl" --End PLIST_SUB-- --SUB_LIST-- PREFIX=/compat/linux LOCALBASE=/usr/local DATADIR=/compat/linux/usr/share/libtool-ltdl DOCSDIR=/compat/linux/usr/share/doc/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 EXAMPLESDIR=/compat/linux/share/examples/libtool-ltdl WWWDIR=/compat/linux/www/libtool-ltdl ETCDIR=/compat/linux/etc/libtool-ltdl --End SUB_LIST-- ---Begin make.conf--- # XXX: We really need this but cannot use it while 'make checksum' does not # try the next mirror on checksum failure. 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It *does* # try the next if the size is mismatched though. #MASTER_SITE_FREEBSD=yes # Build ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS_PACKAGES with 3 jobs MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3 #### Misc Poudriere #### .include "/etc/make.conf.ports_env" GID=0 UID=0 ---End make.conf--- --Resource limits-- ulimit: can't get limit: Invalid argument cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited file size (512-blocks, -f) unlimited data seg size (kbytes, -d) 1048576 stack size (kbytes, -s) 1048576 core file size (512-blocks, -c) unlimited max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited max user processes (-u) 89999 open files (-n) 8192 virtual mem size (kbytes, -v) unlimited swap limit (kbytes, -w) unlimited socket buffer size (bytes, -b) unlimited pseudo-terminals (-p) unlimited kqueues (-k) unlimited umtx shared locks (-o) unlimited --End resource limits-- =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found ===> Installing existing package /packages/All/pkg-1.21.3.pkg [main-arm64-default-job-10] Installing pkg-1.21.3... [main-arm64-default-job-10] Extracting pkg-1.21.3: .......... done ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Returning to build of linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm. =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> License LGPL21+ accepted by the user ===> Fetching all distfiles required by linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 for building ===> Extracting for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-ltdl-2.4.6-45.el9.aarch64.rpm. => SHA256 Checksum OK for rocky/l/libtool-2.4.6-45.el9.src.rpm. =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Patching for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Configuring for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS_ONLY=1 USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on package: linux_base-rl9>=9.2 - not found ===> Installing existing package /packages/All/linux_base-rl9-9.4.pkg [main-arm64-default-job-10] Installing linux_base-rl9-9.4... [main-arm64-default-job-10] Extracting linux_base-rl9-9.4: .......... done ===> linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 depends on package: linux_base-rl9>=9.2 - found ===> Returning to build of linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Staging for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 ===> Generating temporary packing list (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 && /usr/bin/find * | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/bin -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/bin ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find bin | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r bin) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find lib | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r lib) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib64 -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/lib64 ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find lib64 | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r lib64) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/sbin -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/sbin ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux && /usr/bin/find sbin | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet usr && /bin/rm -f -r sbin) [ ! -e /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share/icons -o -L /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share/icons ] || (cd /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/share && /usr/bin/find icons | /usr/bin/cpio -dumpl --quiet /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/usr/local/share && /bin/rm -f -r icons) ====> Compressing man pages (compress-man) =========================================================================== =================================================== ===== env: 'PKG_NOTES=build_timestamp ports_top_git_hash ports_top_checkout_unclean port_git_hash port_checkout_unclean built_by' 'PKG_NOTE_build_timestamp=2024-10-20T08:57:54+0000' 'PKG_NOTE_ports_top_git_hash=94c4ac6b071' 'PKG_NOTE_ports_top_checkout_unclean=no' 'PKG_NOTE_port_git_hash=df72b6b948f' 'PKG_NOTE_port_checkout_unclean=no' 'PKG_NOTE_built_by=poudriere-git-3.4.2' NO_DEPENDS=yes USER=root UID=0 GID=0 ===> Building packages for linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 ===> Building linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl-2.4.6 pkg-static: Unable to access file /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl/work/stage/compat/linux/usr/lib/.build-id/d5/a2d8bc853edaa6953f6a06225974005e220a9a:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped making "package" in /usr/ports/devel/linux-rl9-libtool-ltdl From nobody Sun Oct 20 12:21:49 2024 X-Original-To: emulation@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XWcxp2Zw1z5Yyjv for ; 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Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:21:49 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281837] Handbook "CentOS Base System from FreeBSD Packages" recommends deprecated packages Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:21:49 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Books & Articles X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: iwtcex@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Works As Intended X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fernape@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-emulation List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281837 --- Comment #48 from Alex S --- (In reply to Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa from comment #45) > The other thing I see in that link is someone saying "I kind of expected = the same people that contributed the newer linux base to do the necessary p= reparation work". That someone is me and the task was on their todo list (afaik). > Well, patches are always welcome. I actually have a history of submitting unwanted patches (for the last one = see bug 247327) and that is why I want to see the tracking issue first. > I don't think hiding the implications of using c7 packages under the rug = is a good policy. This is not something that can be fixed on the doc level. Users receive whatever base that is specified their app [package] dependencies. For example, if they type `pkg install linux-chrome` that would be r9, if t= hey type `pkg install linux-sublime3` c7 would be fetched. (And if they want both apps, they are screwed.) There is no realistic scena= rio where users select the linux base directly and happily continue using it with their app, pkg doesn't allow it. Your warnings are essentially unactionable. 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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- New | 269934 | emulators/qemu-user-static does not support capab 1 problems total for which you should take action. --17294580243.BcBFFb5a.41595 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:00:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
------------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------
New         |    269934 | emulators/qemu-user-static does not support capab

1 problems total for which you should take action.
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