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Hi everyone,

We will meet at= 12 noon US Eastern tomorrow,=C2=A0Wednesday 12/18.

If you have any updates, please add them in the first tab of the tracker = in column M:=C2=A0
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If anyone has a topic they want to add to = the agenda, please reply to this email. Otherwise, we will run through the = different topics and hold an open discussion.

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For ease of time zone calculation, that's Wednesd= ay Dec 18 at 17:00 UTC

On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 8= :31=E2=80=AFAM Greg Wallace <= gwallace@netactuate.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

We will meet at 12 noon US Eastern tomorrow,=C2=A0Wednesday 12/18.<= /div>

If you have any updates, please add them in the fi= rst tab of the tracker in column M:=C2=A0
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Meeting ID: 882 7856 2014Passcode: 649551

Greg
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Otherwise, we will run through the different topics and hold= an >> open discussion. >> >> Here is the Zoom info: >> >> Join Zoom Meeting >> >> https://netactuate.zoom.us/j/88278562014?pwd=3DJjjBTIKJoxfypmo1F5V4ENxEn= sscxs.1 >> >> Meeting ID: 882 7856 2014 >> Passcode: 649551 >> >> Greg >> > --00000000000093f9db0629785581 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:09=E2=80=AFAM G= reg Wallace <gwallace@netactu= ate.com> wrote:
For ease of time zone calculation, that's = Wednesday Dec 18 at 17:00 UTC

On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 8:31=E2=80=AFAM = Greg Wallace <gwallace@netactuate.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

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We will meet at 12 noon US Eastern tomorrow,=C2=A0Wednesday 12/1= 8.

If you have any updates, please add them in the= first tab of the tracker in column M:=C2=A0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/= d/1pM3boLIcKj26lq7XbwGMBXW0-F84We3r_Xc3zovHjaQ/edit?usp=3Dsharing
If anyone has a topic they want to add to the agenda, please reply to thi= s email. Otherwise, we will run through the different topics and hold an op= en discussion.

Here is the Zoom info:

Join Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 882 7856 2014<= br>Passcode: 649551

Greg
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Otherwise, we will run through the different topics and hold an op= en discussion. 7. Active Directory and AD/DNS integration fluffy@ is trying to submit FreeBSD-specific patches upstream: https://github.com/SSSD/sssd/pull/7765 We are using security/sssd2 with AD DC with a moderate success at $WORK. What is working for us: - authentication - account management in the PAM sense (detecting an expired password, locked accounts etc.) - Kerberos SSO (by setting KRB5CCNAME var for logged users) - making system adhere to GPO policies (WIP https://github.com/SSSD/sssd/issues/7732) 11. .NET Support and GH actions - The work is being done by Szczepan =C4=86wikli=C5=84ski and I'm only gati= ng his changes into Ports. - The runtime part of .NET was splitted into a separate port. lang/dotnet8 and lang/dotnet are now coinstallable, so that "dotnet --list-runtimes" shows both runtimes and SDKs. - The spurious crashes still occur within runtime both on amd64 and aarch64, both in .NET 8 and 9. 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