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Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:25:24 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1716220186.14048.1724574603123@localhost> In-Reply-To: From: Pamela Ballantyne Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:25:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: Moving ZFS root popol to a virtual server was: ZFS: Suspended Pool due to allegedly uncorrectable I/O error To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000061c0ce06208cd699" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.28 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.28)[-0.279]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WsZK16KMyz4qxN --00000000000061c0ce06208cd699 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 2:30=E2=80=AFAM Ronald Klop = wrote: > > *Van:* Pamela Ballantyne > *Datum:* zondag, 25 augustus 2024 05:03 > *Aan:* freebsd-fs@freebsd.org > *Onderwerp:* Moving ZFS root popol to a virtual server was: ZFS: > Suspended Pool due to allegedly uncorrectable I/O error > > This is certainly possible but small details can result in a non-bootable > pool on the target. > > > Can you provide some information on how you moved the root pool to the > virtual server? > Did you dd the whole disk to a file? Or did you zfs send | zfs receive a > snapshot? Or ... ? > What boot-loader was used on the old server and what on the new one? Is > the partitioning the same on both? > I remember the old server had mirrored disks, how did you setup the > virtual server? > > Thank you, Ronald. I still need to get the new server, I have a meeting with the engineers at the hosting company tomorrow. I will see what they have to offer. To prepare for a migration, I've tried setting up a 13.4 server on VirtualBox and then creating a second one as a target. I've successfully done a ZFS send/recv and duplicated the original installation on the target server. But something quite strange did happen. I created the original with a single two-disk mirror, but just made a single disk pool on the target. Once the OS was successfully transferred, I configured another virtual disk, identical to the pool disk and tried to attach it. ZFS rejected it with "cannot attach ada0p3 to ada1p3: can only attach to mirrors and top-level disks" I looked around and found a suggestion to change vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift from 12 to 9, which I did (without understanding why), allowing me to add the mirror successfully. But this is strange because the original installation was created directly from the FreeBSD install files, which should have set it to 12? It certainly was for the creation of everything on the second system. Hopefully, I will be able to duplicate this experience with the new host, munis the shift setting! Thank you *so* *much* Pammy --00000000000061c0ce06208cd699 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 2:30=E2= =80=AFAM Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:

Van: Pamela Ballantyne <boyvalue@gmail.com>
Datum: zondag, 25 augustus 2024 05:03
Aan: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Onderwerp: Moving ZFS root popol to a virtual server was: = ZFS: Suspended Pool due to allegedly uncorrectable I/O error

This is certainly possible but small details can result in a non-boota= ble pool on the target.

Can you provide some information on how you moved the root pool to the virt= ual server?
Did you dd the whole disk to a file? Or did you zfs send | zfs receive a sn= apshot? Or ... ?
What boot-loader was used on the old server and what on the new one? Is the= partitioning the same on both?
I remember the old server had mirrored disks, how did you setup the virtual= server?


Thank you, Ronald.=C2=A0 I= still need to get the new server, I have a meeting with the engineers at t= he hosting company tomorrow.
I will see what they have to offer.<= /div>

To prepare for a migration, I've tried setting= up a 13.4 server on VirtualBox and then creating a second one as a target.=
I've successfully done a ZFS send/recv and duplicated the or= iginal installation on the target server.

But some= thing quite strange did happen. I created the original with a single two-di= sk mirror, but just made a single disk
pool on the target. Once t= he OS was successfully=C2=A0transferred, I configured another virtual disk,= identical to the pool disk
and tried to attach it. ZFS rejected = it with "cannot attach ada0p3 to ada1p3: can only att= ach to mirrors and top-level disks"
=
I looked around and = found a suggestion to change vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift from 12 to 9, which I = did (without understanding why), allowing me to add the mirror successfully= .

<= font color=3D"#141414" face=3D"Segoe UI, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Roboto,= Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Fira Sans, Droid Sans, sans-serif">But this is = strange because the original installation was created directly from the Fre= eBSD install files, which should have set it to 12? It certainly was for th= e creation of everything on the second system.

= Hopefully, = I will be able to duplicate this experience with the new host, munis the sh= ift setting!

Thank you *so* *much*
Pammy

<= /font>




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Or did you zfs send | zfs receive a >> snapshot? Or ... ? >> What boot-loader was used on the old server and what on the new one? Is >> the partitioning the same on both? >> I remember the old server had mirrored disks, how did you setup the >> virtual server? >> > Thank you, Ronald. I still need to get the new server, I have a meeting > with the engineers at the hosting company tomorrow. > I will see what they have to offer. > > To prepare for a migration, I've tried setting up a 13.4 server on > VirtualBox and then creating a second one as a target. > I've successfully done a ZFS send/recv and duplicated the original > installation on the target server. > > But something quite strange did happen. I created the original with a > single two-disk mirror, but just made a single disk > pool on the target. Once the OS was successfully transferred, I configured > another virtual disk, identical to the pool disk > and tried to attach it. ZFS rejected it with "cannot attach ada0p3 to > ada1p3: can only attach to mirrors and top-level disks" > > I looked around and found a suggestion to change vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift > from 12 to 9, which I did (without understanding why), allowing me to add > the mirror successfully. > > But this is strange because the original installation was created directly > from the FreeBSD install files, which should have set it to 12? It > certainly was for the creation of everything on the second system. > > Hopefully, I will be able to duplicate this experience with the new host, > munis the shift setting! > > Thank you *so* *much* > Pammy The freebsd-fs mailing list page does not indicate the scope of this mailing list: https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-fs I am wondering if this thread should be moved to freebsd-questions, as this thread is about advanced use of file systems rather than file system development and issues (?). 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A good > post may contain both. Please run the following commands on your > colocated server and post the complete console session (prompt, commands > entered, output displayed): > There is yet no colocated server. As I said, I'm using VMs on VBox to see what I have to look forward to if and when the colo happens. The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs in ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems not to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a blank VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the pool; that could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original FreeBSD install package. I have no idea where to reach developers these days. So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm happy to provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this problem. Just let me know. Best, Pammy --0000000000006025fe06208efaf4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Aug 25, 2024= at 10:10=E2=80=AFPM David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
On 8/25/24 19:25, Pamela Ballantyne w= rote:

The freebsd-fs mailing list page does not indicate the scope of this
mailing list:

https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-fs


I am wondering if this thread should be moved to freebsd-questions, as
this thread is about advanced use of file systems rather than file
system development and issues (?).


Prose descriptions of actions performed on a computer are useful for
understanding "who" and "why", but console sessions pro= vide facts that
are useful for understanding "what", "where", "whe= n", and "how".=C2=A0 A good
post may contain both.=C2=A0 Please run the following commands on your
colocated server and post the complete console session (prompt, commands entered, output displayed):


The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs in= ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems not= to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a bla= nk VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the pool; that = could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original FreeBSD insta= ll package.=C2=A0 I have no idea where to reach developers these days.

So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem= . Of course, I'm happy to provide the command output if you think it wi= ll help isolate this problem. Just let me know.

Be= st,
Pammy
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As I said, I'm using VMs on VBox to see > what I have to look forward to if and when the colo happens. > > The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs in > ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems not > to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a > blank VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the pool; > that could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original FreeBSD > install package. I have no idea where to reach developers these days. > > So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm happy to > provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this problem. > Just let me know. I am confused -- your initial post made me think you were having problems with a colocated server (?): https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs/2024-August/003556.html Please clarify what computer you are seeking help for. Please clarify the issue(s) that computer is exhibiting. 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As I said, I'm using VMs on VBox to see > what I have to look forward to if and when the colo happens. > > The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs in > ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems not > to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a > blank VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the pool; > that could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original FreeBSD > install package. I have no idea where to reach developers these days. > > So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm happy to > provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this problem. > Just let me know. Have you tried the command 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' to convert a raw disk image into a VirtualBox disk image? https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/user/vboxmanage-convertfromraw.html David From nobody Thu Aug 29 05:01:51 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WvTfM51Znz52R63 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 05:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boyvalue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x32f.google.com (mail-ot1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WvTfM0hhTz4mGS for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 05:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boyvalue@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ot1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-709339c91f9so172325a34.0 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:02:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1724907721; x=1725512521; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nIY1CpsTfDROWOaTsvZpd/y7CjOazIowF9FQPq9hpvI=; b=mJUHy5HMIfE291FwygmOHDiGpspHt+HeX6USGfjt9jEKfi3iYwEbRASAQUMFkywwmX MSPRktTQtKawBKc2u/3dn3MTH7zKZBbpOLYC4bqcvCYqHlx1qpsSWkFR0EgXiGRwI1+d 0MHiBiJJjLLjR+aPaKwd5rIzwSqi/U7SfiGdI0Q3Q9aLpW9uZ3kQypx9SORJxOIPTAix /HD6yvInGBMzckvQh7VbypxTU3HA4NuB0ZnNt8LbYeMtUGaMquzS/KM46NaKWD/gpXxM EPEwxgWRhoj59K0gTHaHrzfIhWjUTCzuBcdoYIltDrduXS90JOZfHjH+Jw9iRW1T/LrR XAXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1724907721; x=1725512521; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nIY1CpsTfDROWOaTsvZpd/y7CjOazIowF9FQPq9hpvI=; b=dRLfTyEHxkdapOXgS8aWyFoqcjhQbKmNQQTSQ6slHNKXn27fNE2KV6Ar2gr3CmwF62 fg3/P5kVMxClPtr7K7wWbXNOAoLgqeK3IiBpDelAl1vS2Nc64bq2Az1/0xruvWQ7b3h6 /3pK+9ciaN1DUuioRkRRl/enuDd/rmpGEhM5ikYlrscVqyBix2Nd6KGt/fDBWqP/dOoj nz0DaWvu5a+KmyyLXjKlYP+WGpJZtdlNyUs+pgWsGmr/2OJ0WSozRbMNwhCCUaCde6o8 XQzFjngP9k86QksQEEWy9UUMxnmP2ATN3fIhp8oZG212fYLNSkG3eauHMVYhigkAAkuL Ty8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxNdoK6uZqiXyD78rQQC50RiAzsmKRq+dYZPG38F1ouptBlsCh/ 2I+sQ6eN3cvMSvgHs+iOq8SY2/n28nziUGR8FYZLJLeGlN9NR8i8NtC9BEW/v088+r2Gbrp+OVj WIq6WfzYZMud49lMiDXUDaSHaTg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF1H51g+4oKBFWk/69Gb4vGKWAS8SjuYdtaYjWP04rE7LtEWjuYx5XxrVW+lfrZ0DScqhIzfFEyj2gCEFGNYsI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:909:b0:703:68c2:3cb6 with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-70f5c40f0a8mr1653234a34.32.1724907721422; Wed, 28 Aug 2024 22:02:01 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1716220186.14048.1724574603123@localhost> <5cb0fb8c-7717-44a8-a0a1-af1a127abc4c@holgerdanske.com> In-Reply-To: From: Pamela Ballantyne Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 23:01:51 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fwd: Moving ZFS root popol to a virtual server was: ZFS: Suspended Pool due to allegedly uncorrectable I/O error To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000001850e0620cb6022" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WvTfM0hhTz4mGS --00000000000001850e0620cb6022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 9:17=E2=80=AFPM David Christensen wrote: > On 8/25/24 21:58, Pamela Ballantyne wrote: > > There is yet no colocated server. As I said, I'm using VMs on VBox to s= ee > > what I have to look forward to if and when the colo happens. > > > > The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs i= n > > ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems > not > > to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a > > blank VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the pool= ; > > that could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original > FreeBSD > > install package. I have no idea where to reach developers these days. > > > > So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm happ= y > to > > provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this > problem. > > Just let me know. > > > Have you tried the command 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' to convert a > raw disk image into a VirtualBox disk image? > > > https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/user/vboxmanage-= convertfromraw.htm > > > There is no raw disk image to convert. All the disks start as VBox disk images. --00000000000001850e0620cb6022 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 8/25/24 21:58, Pamela Ballant= yne wrote:
> There is yet no colocated server. As I said, I'm using VMs on VBox= to see
> what I have to look forward to if and when the colo happens.
>
> The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs = in
> ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems= not
> to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a=
> blank VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the poo= l;
> that could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original Fre= eBSD
> install package.=C2=A0 I have no idea where to reach developers these = days.
>
> So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I&#= 39;m happy to
> provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this prob= lem.
> Just let me know.


Have you tried the command 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' to conve= rt a
raw disk image into a VirtualBox disk image?

https://= docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/user/vboxmanage-convertfro= mraw.htm


There is no raw disk image to convert.= All the disks start as VBox disk images.=C2=A0
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As I said, I'm using VMs on VBox to see >>> what I have to look forward to if and when the colo happens. >>> >>> The initial reason for posting here was that there might be some bugs in >>> ZFS. The first was the mysterious non-disk disk crash, which now seems >> not >>> to be a bug. The second was root replication from a clean install to a >>> blank VM, requiring a change in a shift to add another disk to the pool; >>> that could be a problem with VBox, of course, or even the original >> FreeBSD >>> install package. I have no idea where to reach developers these days. >>> >>> So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm happy >>> to provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this >>> problem. Just let me know. >>> >> Have you tried the command 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' to convert a >> raw disk image into a VirtualBox disk image? >> >> https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/user/vboxmanage-convertfromraw.htm >> > There is no raw disk image to convert. All the disks start as VBox disk > images. If you want to clone a VirtualBox VM (on a VirtualBox virtual disk), I would export the VM to a file and then import the file into a new VM. If you want to convert a FreeBSD instance running on a ZFS pool mirror of two HDD's on a Supermicro colocated server to a VirtualBox VM, I would try 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' using the primary disk in the mirror (the one with the boot loader stuff). This means you will need to insert/ install and boot a FreeBSD 13 live CD, DVD, USB flash drive, SSD, HDD, etc., into the Supermicro server and install VirtualBox to do the work. Once the VM is running, I would remove the missing vdev from the ZFS pool mirror; this assumes the hosting provider provides fault tolerance storage for VM's. David From nobody Fri Aug 30 03:35:21 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Ww3h50WyRz5PSwD for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 03:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boyvalue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb31.google.com (mail-yb1-xb31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Ww3h45wc2z3yHN for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 03:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boyvalue@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yb1-xb31.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e1a7e54b898so113269276.2 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1724988932; x=1725593732; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=+QjWEFbxjjjR+kUgDQXp3hFhDt3b9E1uAl+fs3kkzY0=; b=lauNsgVWo+xaNhd7JUoAvoZlTJiOmyHNKAHhFSt4JWl4mNrulqpD3h3I3GIapGJACv lU/3KrAQL+fIX8oBXgt63YwrC394iUimsxOcrAcgH0PyDCAvDGsDycy2X4wEkfJNmLDt Qm26bXrx0qSsKDs3GL8RcFjLa4/X1bKrM78QJaqBPmE7/4dk44qDJw4vX7iryIgF/ME/ I79VS6VNjOTbt0eqtt311TvwlTUILs44dQCORjuSK391yPhs+BVc7sHdPnhM8oVV8wiF DJchOSqQ9YyGND3QLxYX8ufj6Kggnx8Rtt73WRLfYbmX+D+6UAak68gH02HVYMN7/nBd +CGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1724988932; x=1725593732; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=+QjWEFbxjjjR+kUgDQXp3hFhDt3b9E1uAl+fs3kkzY0=; b=MX3NgdzzdeOgAahS7RCvLkMgdXqkuWiZI3a0+7MI2esbryGveBPqOh9gNZB4oYnCr6 9zodJWQwAmKQRRxXcXpaYS3fN4sKFChsccT/KZS+S4flIAo5efnJIiFXjptMY/L4zWBF X+pWVSg5dpNAfQ7WuK593ZJ39OZfcvzRmqoCSzZX5VJwPs0/sz4gE0Rfoa4xVidOlyeP Zcj27pnSX/i6D/SgIClC7IacwylCdgeI52fl6Gso+Inw3/faxKATFUwsdOrC2xkVMblK 8aUA4GOyAM3NAiQKyIwJCz19soC4wZ/IWQksAM/6Y/Q5tREASrXBBuIoGzIch7l/938p pvsA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzUgSozzxUq/hen67UiwPl4jCxrMVIKzZvY+uJEPr7+qjsSJ5u7 2An2kT2poqJ7JBqOaovs5IRayeJgLMQBGScNRr6RYWt5IBgnzW3geHHWs11xhOw+LeAB9CwJGKe XT+5bPfo2GUv1pEZdQP9ZOMyvTRv6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHJzhUgYDHJ58KGwFdhePD25bMFdEh8EeLcVKMkPHuuCceJ+WjtnlT92B83HK8IS/PUz5zkZPjGok3qjHGUviY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:100a:b0:e05:fea8:4c77 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e1a79fff310mr954857276.14.1724988931635; Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:35:31 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1716220186.14048.1724574603123@localhost> <5cb0fb8c-7717-44a8-a0a1-af1a127abc4c@holgerdanske.com> <371379ee-b5ae-406c-ab61-04b77b43f3e8@holgerdanske.com> In-Reply-To: <371379ee-b5ae-406c-ab61-04b77b43f3e8@holgerdanske.com> From: Pamela Ballantyne Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:35:21 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fwd: Moving ZFS root popol to a virtual server was: ZFS: Suspended Pool due to allegedly uncorrectable I/O error To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008303190620de4853" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Ww3h45wc2z3yHN --0000000000008303190620de4853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 5:17=E2=80=AFPM David Christensen wrote: > On 8/28/24 22:01, Pamela Ballantyne wrote: > >>> So far, there's no issue with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm > happy > >>> to provide the command output if you think it will help isolate this > >>> problem. Just let me know. > >>> > >> Have you tried the command 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' to convert = a > >> raw disk image into a VirtualBox disk image? > >> > >> > https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/user/vboxmanage-= convertfromraw.htm > >> > > There is no raw disk image to convert. All the disks start as VBox disk > > images. > > > If you want to clone a VirtualBox VM (on a VirtualBox virtual disk), I > would export the VM to a file and then import the file into a new VM. > > > If you want to convert a FreeBSD instance running on a ZFS pool mirror > of two HDD's on a Supermicro colocated server to a VirtualBox VM, I > would try 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' using the primary disk in the > mirror (the one with the boot loader stuff). This means you will need > to insert/ install and boot a FreeBSD 13 live CD, DVD, USB flash drive, > SSD, HDD, etc., into the Supermicro server and install VirtualBox to do > the work. Once the VM is running, I would remove the missing vdev from > the ZFS pool mirror; this assumes the hosting provider provides fault > tolerance storage for VM's. > > Thanks David, I'm sure that's good advice. I don't need to do that. At the moment, it looks possible that I will be moving from a Supermicro server to a Dell. I'm hoping to be able to boot FBSD using the virtual disk on the Dell, configure the hard drives, and then use ZFS send/recv to replicate one server to the other. It's unclear if the data center will provide me with the necessary access. Fingers crossed. I always put the 'boot laoder stuff' on all the disks in the mirror, so the machine can always boot. Pammy --0000000000008303190620de4853 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 5:17=E2=80=AFPM David = Christensen <dpchrist@holge= rdanske.com> wrote:
On 8/28/24 22= :01, Pamela Ballantyne wrote:
>>> So far, there's no issue = with using the filesystem. Of course, I'm happy
>>> to provide the command output if you think it will help isolat= e this
>>> problem. Just let me know.
>>>
>> Have you tried the command 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...'= to convert a
>> raw disk image into a VirtualBox disk image?
>>
>> = https://docs.oracle.com/en/virtualization/virtualbox/6.0/user/vboxmanage-co= nvertfromraw.htm
>>
> There is no raw disk image to convert. All the disks start as VBox dis= k
> images.


If you want to clone a VirtualBox VM (on a VirtualBox virtual disk), I
would export the VM to a file and then import the file into a new VM.


If you want to convert a FreeBSD instance running on a ZFS pool mirror
of two HDD's on a Supermicro colocated server to a VirtualBox VM, I would try 'VBoxManage convertfromraw ...' using the primary disk in= the
mirror (the one with the boot loader stuff).=C2=A0 This means you will need=
to insert/ install and boot a FreeBSD 13 live CD, DVD, USB flash drive, SSD, HDD, etc., into the Supermicro server and install VirtualBox to do the work.=C2=A0 Once the VM is running, I would remove the missing vdev fro= m
the ZFS pool mirror; this assumes the hosting provider provides fault
tolerance storage for VM's.


Tha= nks David, I'm sure that's good advice. I don't need to do that= .=C2=A0 At the moment,
it looks possible that I will be moving fr= om a Supermicro server to a Dell. I'm hoping
to be able to bo= ot FBSD using the virtual disk on the Dell, configure the hard drives,
and then use ZFS send/recv to replicate one server to the other.=C2= =A0 It's unclear if
the data center will provide me with the = necessary access. Fingers crossed.

I always put th= e 'boot laoder=C2=A0stuff' on all the disks in the mirror, so the m= achine can always boot.

Pammy

=
--0000000000008303190620de4853-- From nobody Sun Sep 1 21:01:01 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WxknV1T8Rz5PS5y for ; Sun, 01 Sep 2024 21:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WxknT5dHNz487Q for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1725224461; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PGMxP4Tda3oAZv3SaXA6X7Kr2w3I5yhpJjaOqvZdgZeDMpZ6dx5wCbKgAR8dkZviz0EuFA 3efktE00iT5Kq+yJym9mYSWYpe3UPn6eD4LBm705MiibV0nRICUUjIotDaxVGOl8FwjY81 VE8kFSafUKgjtLXwaG7Bqifbz0peCep+shagtQQ7f0o1rOOHC4xH03XLldL7vCnIJdzT4u HBQTaVlIPpbPdPKRwcw/6YnO3QsM1nIykYzY+6VJoT+J0fWI3/L86wMFfmh+WP0qGh8ikH Nf65PjTsb/gsCsbN55zR7xwDJaI4CmA8kMQg7AbPxaeGFs4ZnU8dgyyet5fW3Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1725224461; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=04riZPjFEI8Zml2MhsAjboxR7U0AE/y7bfva2sTPh9o=; b=YEeG0Kcq60MaM7Ljix3KmKsZ5ES1+R+WQ8gV+NX0K7OurW1HMSc0jTO4jFE3gChczDHB+Z xFFXjdIJDy0djJ7aDZKAr1olehzCcI6HRphhDBSMknL61djLwBN17E4gLlhwjlnnYOUEHi xqy1xjSlFiZ0Bjk2mVl4CWuhlQx4MR0fYUSuPAr6pLrZga0BIQ1ghusf28RrHBCYQflZ3z xmXR9zu/vZvCjZqmBgPLqY8YIkHalYYfy+v+IMJdEGTyD8JHORYMji2JewK/IAinW0T1n5 0E9zZ78j5YnlaYgoccfNYYVZr29Ud5Qp5HQLShApQSud2jhv3bYuD8v15WQw6A== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WxknT5BM8zkpd for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 481L11rP077297 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 481L11AO077280 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202409012101.481L11AO077280@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for fs@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 +0000 List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="17252244611.d7Ab.69655" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --17252244611.d7Ab.69655 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 231794 | zfs: Panic due to ARC related KVA memory exhausti Open | 251035 | ZFS: Allow 64 bit ZFS to support 32 bit ioctls (W Open | 266409 | 13.1-RELEASE amd64 crashes in: sa_handle_destroy Open | 268162 | zfskeys_enable: each successful load of a key is Open | 269503 | docs.freebsd.org: default vfs.zfs.arc.meta_limit Open | 271384 | zfs_load is not suitably documented Open | 226130 | ZFS: solaris assert: zrl->zr_refcount == 0 (0x1 = 7 problems total for which you should take action. --17252244611.d7Ab.69655 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:01:01 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
------------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------
Open        |    231794 | zfs: Panic due to ARC related KVA memory exhausti
Open        |    251035 | ZFS: Allow 64 bit ZFS to support 32 bit ioctls (W
Open        |    266409 | 13.1-RELEASE amd64 crashes in: sa_handle_destroy 
Open        |    268162 | zfskeys_enable: each successful load of a key is 
Open        |    269503 | docs.freebsd.org: default vfs.zfs.arc.meta_limit
Open        |    271384 | zfs_load is not suitably documented
Open        |    226130 | ZFS: solaris assert: zrl->zr_refcount == 0 (0x1 =

7 problems total for which you should take action.
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