From nobody Mon Oct 14 08:09:32 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XRqdT4KPqz5ZPNt for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XRqdT2Mmjz4cM1 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1728893373; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=HnD6285E9Anat+0voUMRQ0ju1NqijKJ2q+YTVqoJIiI=; b=UOS9Tm6YNL5GymMkVks5bOH78ezgIooOlu55SM8Rp1lFawM/XF4ptMCKYCIFr1Led9rRGl 22Ce7AFl0J8rAJ9WoJdasy0GX4+fL3fOFJzuKzppl4ctawl3wt8BoFFVf6o1ZbQG45Bk83 7HhtHyc7JV0xNr8qsEEmCg4YGTTN6GtM2uPa8tCBsfhVbpq0GEBSC9Eya5W1IwqVczvaF/ 7BB5WO910o5Lu9ctS4vuLbWPTN/ar6vr2MIqs85etVgi3+O99TRjie/byeznsY/D5BLmzb T7c6xv1oJwA+KUmByhvqNA4esaJcVC4jTT+PHcG+qkBAC+4AvKbab81SYCKq3g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1728893373; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bU8h9Pyg4Nwo96dn34xIiPEm9fMic9AVGLYNShV3bznixyWchM1LOH3ygMUp3opeO18wnJ oGCaNxhD1p5TfTfZrxHVZZvCMwkYVsjAKQMEUukVT++JvMz7Z8TxXitN0682xmBIifRzVF V5F7czrDjPHb/2+kAmCqEjzLSZ/i2WUNcUZ3NcJ5ib+UAWII5mka39RcN1S27d49BcGEX3 wVWKtpFNcVPleYhr7sfGsSBAu1oggrD/vw9pPFjaOUsWA3ZAxG4ndS1jXOx7shlni20pdh yxYPrI/KhYnsGgVNI8vvjOc0xtqOUyG3ZH9vtyKx2ySQ1D+557tjb9gPiztBBg== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XRqdT0C66zWBv for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49E89WDl042933 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:09:32 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49E89Wpq042932 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:09:32 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281978] g_io_request panic on md(4) with odd size Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:09:32 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: crash X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: commit-hook@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281978 --- Comment #3 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch main references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D4bf34c597c44a2393ac5ec483e9cecac1= 28d8202 commit 4bf34c597c44a2393ac5ec483e9cecac128d8202 Author: Konstantin Belousov AuthorDate: 2024-10-13 21:28:22 +0000 Commit: Konstantin Belousov CommitDate: 2024-10-14 08:08:21 +0000 md(4): always trim the last partial sector Do it also for the preloaded disk, in addition to the dynamically configured device. This is needed to avoid geom checking alignment and panicing on read of the last sector, e.g. for partition schemes and label tasting. PR: 281978 Reported by: bz Reviewed by: bz, markj Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation MFC after: 1 week Differential revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D47102 sys/dev/md/md.c | 14 +++++++++----- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Oct 15 12:48:28 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XSYmt6Kljz5YtFT for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XSYmt43vMz4mkG for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1728996510; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ruoPdiCsoO6cQCQ3HfC2F5oFsc6B4Cj6YF8QUhlGdVA=; b=GxSHIbIGXoIebrKzOD2QfwkVgjyFzMUJZUBAvowaZh7EY048hiPk310iiU4WEyIR5iISo+ 5x6ra+gDD1lVkxLBb6ixRWmvZuohy+h5/IYo6a5YFGXcqL7FbLYQyY/56iIPWaVd0B/TrE ZM71C8KALaKTOE8bUuT6agiLNn/T2jpYENpv+4twQDFEVZxPXxJ6VQ4Uts0dBlYTGlFpUT /DgMWP620B5FAT23fBOWmSC3K4mTO3TXW6qsx3Whoc0OCl0NYbUuoy+xU/e9xDSu+xxCSx sX0BvVbIojtGUW68mt4Sx3hWSVem75QxIDQs1nrkCJrxszjZ5ZM485AxKUh7Dw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1728996510; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Jzu3J2FzNZRqbbopAkZt1MY+P7m6KmHhGzZthQh7+e/Xq/gy8D5mGjCKb6uORD/Mbziz30 NXLtdtLIj+O4sN3IGSdQ2mMtGOt+NB+Pr1SLDbo9neMuGY5Jbc8Wr1HCwTKhpJJCrGB7PW jf+TojuBrkHyQ/3x7iaxKQbJZGMVXOaSgtopy0JgVb2eWnRwEk9k5/tCy385A9xz7bQE6i 0GtyBwm4uS/OiSZUElCz6sipGWSIkZtmzuyAeZ/ITc3zSpmumt+7qFbCjK2wp5YXjAGMJT HSIIaG7TM/ZT5moEKI9X+dlo++qXJaJHE/ddzDAmrlaJWwblfbz0gvy/A6Ob+w== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XSYmt3JhnzN9B for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49FCmUNo077064 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:30 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49FCmUoK077063 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:30 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 271105] ext2fs can not mount disks with 4K native sector size Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:48:28 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.2-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: fsu@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: FIXED X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fsu@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: mfc-stable14+ mfc-stable13? 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To: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.83 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.929]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[asomers]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.41:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.41:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XTQDF3YgRz4FmR X-Spamd-Bar: - ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the destination directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It seems to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody know why ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allow new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir, ufs_link, or ufs_create. -Alan From nobody Wed Oct 16 22:36:30 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTQn85QSVz5Z57x for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTQn739Mgz4HJk; Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 49GMaU6r035603; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 01:36:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 49GMaU6r035603 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 49GMaUmg035602; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 01:36:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 01:36:30 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Alan Somers Cc: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Subject: Re: Should VOP_RENAME fail if tdvp has an IMMUTABLE flag set? Message-ID: References: List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XTQn739Mgz4HJk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the destination > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It seems > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody know why > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allow > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir, > ufs_link, or ufs_create. For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in ufs_lookup.c and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does the directory compaction breaks append-only? 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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 10:22:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3093175.hHqAuc6tWs@ravel> In-Reply-To: References: List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2457904.THHZn3L5Ee"; micalg="pgp-sha384"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --nextPart2457904.THHZn3L5Ee Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Olivier Certner Cc: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Subject: Re: Should VOP_RENAME fail if tdvp has an IMMUTABLE flag set? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 10:22:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3093175.hHqAuc6tWs@ravel> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allow > new entries. I agree with that. With respect to append-only, the crucial point in the rename case is whether the target name already exists in the target directory, because in this case the rename operation should be denied obviously. Otherwise, the rename should work. > APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does the directory > compaction breaks append-only? I think that flags apply to public operations, those that can be realized through the usual interface. Here, APPEND is arguably about adding files to directories, regardless of the actual mechanism implementing the addition of entries. Consequently, I don't think UFS directory compaction should matter in the discussion of the semantics. But perhaps you're foreseeing a specific implementation problem? Thanks and regards. -- Olivier Certner --nextPart2457904.THHZn3L5Ee Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XTvD941N7z48KV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 4:36=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the destination > > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It seems > > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody know why > > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination > > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allow > > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir, > > ufs_link, or ufs_create. > > For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in ufs_look= up.c > and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). That makes sense. So an IMMUTABLE check in ufs_rename wouldn't be wrong, but it would be redundant. > > APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does the dire= ctory > compaction breaks append-only? I agree with olce@ on this one. Directory compaction sounds to me like an implementation detail. BTW, the motivation for this discussion is that mscotty (CC'd) is currently working on implementing file flags within fusefs. We're trying to decide exactly how to enforce them, following UFS's lead where possible. -Alan From nobody Thu Oct 17 19:35:27 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XTyjg6cSzz5ZPYC for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XTyjg4LrWz4fBP; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 49HJZS2Q074450; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 22:35:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 49HJZS2Q074450 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 49HJZRnC074449; Thu, 17 Oct 2024 22:35:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 22:35:27 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Alan Somers Cc: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Subject: Re: Should VOP_RENAME fail if tdvp has an IMMUTABLE flag set? Message-ID: References: List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XTyjg4LrWz4fBP X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:58:02AM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 4:36 PM Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > > > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > > > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the destination > > > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It seems > > > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody know why > > > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination > > > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > > > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > > > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allow > > > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir, > > > ufs_link, or ufs_create. > > > > For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in ufs_lookup.c > > and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). > > That makes sense. So an IMMUTABLE check in ufs_rename wouldn't be > wrong, but it would be redundant. > > > > > APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does the directory > > compaction breaks append-only? > > I agree with olce@ on this one. Directory compaction sounds to me > like an implementation detail. But does the re-ordering of the directory entries counts against append-only? Adding a new entry could occur in the middle of existing entries, if there is an unused block. This would at least change cookies and the order of returned dirents. Another question, if the target dirent already exists, and rename would rewrite tvp inode number, is this fine for append-only? > > BTW, the motivation for this discussion is that mscotty (CC'd) is > currently working on implementing file flags within fusefs. 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To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: mscotty@protonmail.ch, freebsd-fs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XTzCr6Ld2z4hKb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:58:02AM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 4:36=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > > > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > > > > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > > > > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the destinat= ion > > > > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It seem= s > > > > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody know = why > > > > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination > > > > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > > > > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > > > > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would allo= w > > > > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir, > > > > ufs_link, or ufs_create. > > > > > > For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in ufs_= lookup.c > > > and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). > > > > That makes sense. So an IMMUTABLE check in ufs_rename wouldn't be > > wrong, but it would be redundant. > > > > > > > > APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does the = directory > > > compaction breaks append-only? > > > > I agree with olce@ on this one. Directory compaction sounds to me > > like an implementation detail. > But does the re-ordering of the directory entries counts against > append-only? Adding a new entry could occur in the middle of existing > entries, if there is an unused block. This would at least change cookies > and the order of returned dirents. That doesn't sound like a problem to me. No program should be relying on the order of entries returned by readdir, as long as they're consistent. And telldir/seekdir cookies make no promises about how they handle new dirents written after the cookie was created. > > Another question, if the target dirent already exists, and rename would > rewrite tvp inode number, is this fine for append-only? That does not sound fine to me, in append-only mode, because it's changing existing directory contents. > > > > > BTW, the motivation for this discussion is that mscotty (CC'd) is > > currently working on implementing file flags within fusefs. 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Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 21:51:29 -0700 To: asomers@freebsd.org, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51) References: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.32:from]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.32:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XVC3P71nhz4SRv X-Spamd-Bar: -- Alan Somers wrote on Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:58:00 UTC : > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov = wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:58:02AM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 4:36=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov = wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > > > > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > > > > > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > > > > > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the = destination > > > > > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It = seems > > > > > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody = know why > > > > > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the = destination > > > > > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > > > > > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > > > > > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would = allow > > > > > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in = ufs_mkdir, > > > > > ufs_link, or ufs_create. > > > > > > > > For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in = ufs_lookup.c > > > > and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). > > > > > > That makes sense. So an IMMUTABLE check in ufs_rename wouldn't be > > > wrong, but it would be redundant. > > > > > > > > > > > APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does = the directory > > > > compaction breaks append-only? > > > > > > I agree with olce@ on this one. Directory compaction sounds to me > > > like an implementation detail. > > But does the re-ordering of the directory entries counts against > > append-only? Adding a new entry could occur in the middle of = existing > > entries, if there is an unused block. This would at least change = cookies > > and the order of returned dirents. >=20 > That doesn't sound like a problem to me. No program should be relying > on the order of entries returned by readdir, as long as they're > consistent. How would I reliably identify examples that are inconsistent vs consistent under whatever definition of "consistent" is being used here? I've not been able to identify the definition. > And telldir/seekdir cookies make no promises about how > they handle new dirents written after the cookie was created. BUGS The behaviour of telldir() and seekdir() is likely to be wrong if = there are parallel unlinks happening and the directory is larger than one = page. There is code to ensure that a seekdir() to the location given by a telldir() immediately before the last readdir() will always set the correct location to return the same value as that last readdir() performed. This is enough for some applications which want to = "push back the last entry read", e.g., Samba. Seeks back to any other = location, other than the beginning of the directory, may result in unexpected behaviour if deletes are present. It is hoped that this situation = will be resolved with changes to getdirentries() and the VFS. Notably, other than the special location handling, that wording is only about when there is unlinking involved as far as failures go. So, avoiding unlinking in the examples below, . . . A, B, C, D sequence existing initially with a unused block between B and C to set up a context for the following (pseudocode). . . L=3D telldir(DP) DE_B=3D readdir(DP) that reads B DE_C=3D readdir(DP) that reads C APPEND mode addition of E, resulting in: A, B, E, C, D (above is: if I understood kib's note) DE_D=3D readdir(DP) that reads D (or maybe E?) seekdir(DP,L) DE_unsure=3D readdir(DP) No unlinking is involved. Does DE_unsure necessarily end up being for B under the proposed implementation? A contrasting test case: DE_B=3D readdir(DP) that reads B L=3D telldir(DP) DE_C=3D readdir(DP) that reads C APPEND mode addition of E, resulting in: A, B, E, C, D (above is: if I understood kib's note) DE_D=3D readdir(DP) that reads D (or may be E?) seekdir(DP,L) DE_unsure=3D readdir(DP) No unlinking is involved. Does DE_unsure necessarily end up being for C under the proposed implementation? Such seem to be examples the type of questions involved. Both would need to be yes for "necessarily" in order for APPEND mode use to be allowed without adjustments to the BUGS section. (Or I've missed the point and need to learn.) > > > > Another question, if the target dirent already exists, and rename = would > > rewrite tvp inode number, is this fine for append-only? >=20 > That does not sound fine to me, in append-only mode, because it's > changing existing directory contents. >=20 > > > > > > > > BTW, the motivation for this discussion is that mscotty (CC'd) is > > > currently working on implementing file flags within fusefs. We're > > > trying to decide exactly how to enforce them, following UFS's lead > > > where possible. > > > > > > -Alan =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Fri Oct 18 05:41:33 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVD8t3Xz6z5Yl0b for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 05:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVD8t2RRnz4W19 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 05:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282134 Peter Holm changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dougm@freebsd.org --- Comment #2 from Peter Holm --- A commit search for when the ext2fs problems (log0554.txt and log0555.txt) = were introduced, shows: 10/14 Kevin Bowling (2,9K) git: 7763b194d8de - main - igc: txrx function prototype cleanup OK 10/14 Doug Moore (3,2K) git: 2c8caa4b3925 - main - vfs_subr: optimize inval_buf_range FAIL --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 08:52:55 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVJPj0TRZz5Ywvq for ; 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Fri, 18 Oct 2024 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alan Somers Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 08:01:01 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Should VOP_RENAME fail if tdvp has an IMMUTABLE flag set? To: Mark Millard Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XVRFV1ryDz4TDn X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:51=E2=80=AFPM Mark Millard w= rote: > > Alan Somers wrote on > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 19:58:00 UTC : > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:35=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:58:02AM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 4:36=E2=80=AFPM Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 04:11:28PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > > > > > > ufs_rename and ext2_rename will both fail with EPERM if the > > > > > > destination directory has an APPEND file flag set. So will > > > > > > tmpfs_rename. However, tmpfs_rename will also fail if the desti= nation > > > > > > directory has an IMMUTABLE flag set. That's inconsistent. It se= ems > > > > > > to me that tmpfs's behavior is more reasonable. Does anybody kn= ow why > > > > > > ufs and ext2 have always allowed rename even if the destination > > > > > > directory is IMMUTABLE? For that matter, does anybody know the > > > > > > rationale for preventing it if the destination is APPEND? > > > > > > Intuitively, I would think that an APPEND-only directory would = allow > > > > > > new entries. And I don't see any checks for APPEND in ufs_mkdir= , > > > > > > ufs_link, or ufs_create. > > > > > > > > > > For UFS, IMMUTABLE is checked on lookup. Search for 'RENAME' in u= fs_lookup.c > > > > > and following call to VOP_ACCESSX(). > > > > > > > > That makes sense. So an IMMUTABLE check in ufs_rename wouldn't be > > > > wrong, but it would be redundant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > APPEND for UFS directories is a strange idea, for instance, does = the directory > > > > > compaction breaks append-only? > > > > > > > > I agree with olce@ on this one. Directory compaction sounds to me > > > > like an implementation detail. > > > But does the re-ordering of the directory entries counts against > > > append-only? Adding a new entry could occur in the middle of existing > > > entries, if there is an unused block. This would at least change cook= ies > > > and the order of returned dirents. > > > > That doesn't sound like a problem to me. No program should be relying > > on the order of entries returned by readdir, as long as they're > > consistent. > > How would I reliably identify examples that are inconsistent > vs consistent under whatever definition of "consistent" is > being used here? I've not been able to identify the > definition. I just meant that readdir should behave "the same way" when used on the same directory. Though POSIX doesn't even require that. All it really requires it that successive calls to readdir return every directory entry exactly once. Except for directory entries created after opendir(), where it says: If a file is removed from or added to the directory after the most recent call to opendir() or rewinddir(), whether a subsequent call to readdir() returns an entry for that file is unspecified. > > > And telldir/seekdir cookies make no promises about how > > they handle new dirents written after the cookie was created. > > BUGS > The behaviour of telldir() and seekdir() is likely to be wrong if th= ere > are parallel unlinks happening and the directory is larger than one = page. > There is code to ensure that a seekdir() to the location given by a > telldir() immediately before the last readdir() will always set the > correct location to return the same value as that last readdir() > performed. This is enough for some applications which want to "push= back > the last entry read", e.g., Samba. Seeks back to any other location= , > other than the beginning of the directory, may result in unexpected > behaviour if deletes are present. It is hoped that this situation w= ill > be resolved with changes to getdirentries() and the VFS. > > Notably, other than the special location handling, that > wording is only about when there is unlinking involved > as far as failures go. So, avoiding unlinking in the > examples below, . . . > > A, B, C, D sequence existing initially with a > unused block between B and C to set up a > context for the following (pseudocode). . . > > L=3D telldir(DP) > DE_B=3D readdir(DP) that reads B > DE_C=3D readdir(DP) that reads C > APPEND mode addition of E, resulting in: A, B, E, C, D > (above is: if I understood kib's note) > DE_D=3D readdir(DP) that reads D (or maybe E?) > seekdir(DP,L) > DE_unsure=3D readdir(DP) > > No unlinking is involved. Does DE_unsure necessarily end > up being for B under the proposed implementation? > > A contrasting test case: > > DE_B=3D readdir(DP) that reads B > L=3D telldir(DP) > DE_C=3D readdir(DP) that reads C > APPEND mode addition of E, resulting in: A, B, E, C, D > (above is: if I understood kib's note) > DE_D=3D readdir(DP) that reads D (or may be E?) > seekdir(DP,L) > DE_unsure=3D readdir(DP) > > No unlinking is involved. Does DE_unsure necessarily end > up being for C under the proposed implementation? > > Such seem to be examples the type of questions involved. > Both would need to be yes for "necessarily" in order for > APPEND mode use to be allowed without adjustments to the > BUGS section. (Or I've missed the point and need to learn.) I don't see what APPEND has to do with it. Wouldn't such a scenario pose a problem both with and without APPEND? > > > > > > > Another question, if the target dirent already exists, and rename wou= ld > > > rewrite tvp inode number, is this fine for append-only? > > > > That does not sound fine to me, in append-only mode, because it's > > changing existing directory contents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, the motivation for this discussion is that mscotty (CC'd) is > > > > currently working on implementing file flags within fusefs. We're > > > > trying to decide exactly how to enforce them, following UFS's lead > > > > where possible. > > > > > > > > -Alan > > > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > marklmi at yahoo.com > From nobody Fri Oct 18 16:56:52 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVW853qDNz5ZRpR for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVW850BkFz4rJb for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729270613; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=a6B5xhFOsltq0Q1JjhtJRXEIG4IRKa0j5BHMWVpwBOc=; b=E/7ygKC5N/3w7y5F9HKPn3GNjvUzSN3HYX2eaXxlP7/QtLJb9xSMGnfqR6/B6x7gGA4kgf 5vE7P2U60vhbluYvM+OpoASPjMx+36vYhf2cg4AztoZiEbexc2gHBoR7OexNVMBVaX6N6i runyEMmc4r9jWr4o0bWlyFJCE3ffkBuyWpyJ6Bl5bYEHBBuOZLhri5Z/DJSuvVOZ8hPRPz b29M9GSUlJpj6AiDY3vwRigLfOFh7heK5E/V8fXf3zi1Cut1hreX25xp3qFyaCFYsLKA2y /WTrzHnbIx0FxlsMKn/ZNyv5o+JLXTnKzunXbSMztJ7pZI/QfVfW8XBTZZj5cQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729270613; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=X/CobgdX7Jm3wZTjeB+DIpt6zloxiIxbV8RhbvKa+RMBBGXqYagybFubBfu7JHT8n1jPST X8xtRLJMJ1E6aHGbh1A2kWmN2cLnmY/rNbvipYnbxKpb/UYQVBsY0SNVsRnGiSXVbaAtzt r20AO4NXHmGSGlTQ/KDGugVrHOLmmCBEXlJ6LXQCDNU7TjPv7XNuYV6bMr0wwLY3EddP9I fNOnTEbOWa4bPzvekIcklStHmiqseL1UO55fZ4oVMSgQPmPRHNRTiX/rRKbrD2FsuZ/YEp Jd+o/wXohGJdTT4vI6p6oQvRsV+UBeuj49AhOGkc4L1s5UxC+DhSF8lANovubg== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVW845s6JzhNf for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49IGuqbt006058 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:56:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49IGuqnT006056 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:56:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 282134] [ext2fs] watchdogd fired (with one hour timeout) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:56:52 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 15.0-CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: crash X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: unkadoug@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: attachments.created Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282134 --- Comment #5 from Doug Moore --- Created attachment 254341 --> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D254341&action= =3Dedit diagnostic patch Another patch, intended to diagnose and not likely to fix. I can't reprodu= ce the problem because I can't install ext2. I'll examine the results after t= his new assertion fails. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Fri Oct 18 17:44:55 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVXCX1pCWz5ZVKs for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVXCW56Xmz4vYs for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729273495; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=p8sFuOtA5rYLNZPSgQrFaUKGaeGH8V8U+ZGWEhuRmyg=; b=LXeyJUcmYwFlpBZXcOr+kXRZEJZYMDONkBCzgFtKAaz8aNWJ1MqrahkZs/tv3w6fpNu2rD XVr7QPRDjr0WoNjB2PNUhtBXitBBJm9ifu65kpVh0obe/Hc7Yo2iWM9MBJeLPUmoUS31mT 7yPtBXy7AoOdiNDoIWxKeJCx7R/ASzGoUpSiO9xzIT5oV2ekUFgWJnjOIDVLnwb6hvZDR3 yym4y5DwmX1Zk2SdhgQSUfbJu0Zrdy6Jp35KX+3JfoRIh55hN2hm8R703Sfj2VhtCzPNHp INcH5PliUa3mdldxYbSObGpYczRgxECDwtWNEf4TUiabjznu7DOQH3+QnmavIg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729273495; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=wpMxWWL/L2T9KPDnLnqXOVMe7HFeUU9CLOUtEW4GpaYX+NSoPj/lI+hg26j1nG4EMl7S7G 1SnOL4XjPEP5pTPStPiGIFvIUT8BER5/Km7T0rq4RuIjDRlLAnNxxCCmge64LlIeTWZAGn 5jOOhPnlzkKH1XVHxN1XCwdJHmchk5CmKDdnNWXrBwGvysQgPbjDE5j+wY9YQrgoJNy3ol m/YvOonmi1bSEJW0dhsrrNjdwradXlTF6HQdWhmDzmN0xdsqrKSdVqBhrgpVIbFWE57uls o7vre6VjzuPnn/I9p3FwYkj1VbVJ/EFp38AbYqs2c9fiS8dXpjAE3xVGp7MTQw== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVXCW4TQ6zk49 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49IHitIh077377 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:44:55 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49IHit2J077376 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:44:55 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 167685] ZFS on USB drive prevents shutdown / reboot Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:44:55 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.2-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: james@elstone.net X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D167685 James Elstone changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |james@elstone.net --- Comment #16 from James Elstone --- Can confirm this is still on FreeBSD 14.1-p5. Output requested as per comment #10: # gpart show =3D> 40 8000416 ada0 GPT (3.8G) 40 532480 1 efi (260M) 532520 7065600 2 freebsd-ufs (3.4G) 7598120 399360 3 freebsd-swap (195M) 7997480 2976 - free - (1.5M) =3D> 40 976773088 da0 GPT (466G) 40 4056 - free - (2.0M) 4096 976281600 1 freebsd-zfs (466G) 976285696 487432 - free - (238M) =3D> 40 976773088 da1 GPT (466G) 40 4056 - free - (2.0M) 4096 976281600 1 freebsd-zfs (466G) 976285696 487432 - free - (238M) # geom disk list Geom name: ada0 Providers: Geom name: da0 Providers: 1. Name: da0 Mediasize: 500107862016 (466G) Sectorsize: 512 Stripesize: 4096 Stripeoffset: 0 Mode: r1w1e3 descr: WDC WD50 00LPLX-66ZNT lunname: WDC WD5000LPLX-66ZNT 02.0 lunid: WDC WD5000LPLX-66ZNT 02.0 ident: 0020041324C6 rotationrate: unknown fwsectors: 63 fwheads: 255 Geom name: da1 Providers: 1. 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282134 --- Comment #8 from Doug Moore --- Created attachment 254350 --> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D254350&action= =3Dedit deal with negative values; sort the list I've had some success with this patch. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Sat Oct 19 11:23:27 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XVzhv3qgnz5b06v for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVzhv1nrqz4Dtl for ; 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Sun, 20 Oct 2024 00:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49K0424l089225 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 00:04:02 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49K042xe089224 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 00:04:02 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 167685] ZFS on USB drive prevents shutdown / reboot Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 00:04:01 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.2-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: marklmi26-fbsd@yahoo.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D167685 Mark Millard changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marklmi26-fbsd@yahoo.com --- Comment #19 from Mark Millard --- In my simple ZFS context I'v enver gotten such behavior. Here I'm using a d= a0 based UFS boot and later adding da1 and importing its pool: # gpart show -p da1 =3D> 40 1875384928 da1 GPT (894G) 40 532480 da1p1 efi (260M) 532520 8152 - free - (4.0M) 540672 62914560 da1p2 freebsd-swap (30G) 63455232 184549376 da1p4 freebsd-swap (88G) 248004608 20971520 - free - (10G) 268976128 1468006400 da1p3 freebsd-zfs (700G) 1736982528 138402440 - free - (66G) # zpool import pool: zwdk23 id: 8373431646426325674 state: ONLINE status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. (Note that they may be intentionally disabled if the 'compatibility' property is set.) action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier, thou= gh some features will not be available without an explicit 'zpool upgrade'. config: zwdk23 ONLINE gpt/wdk23CA78Czfs ONLINE Note: I historically use a /usr/share/zfs/compatibility.d/openzfs-2.*-freeb= sd as the feature set -- or the likes of /usr/share/zfs/compatibility.d/openzfs-2.2 when there is= no linux vs. freebsd distinction for where I have things set. Thus main tends to produce the some-not-enabled message. # zpool import -t -f -R /zptemp-mnt/ zwdk23 zptemp # zpool list -v NAME SIZE ALLOC FREE CKPOINT EXPANDSZ FRAG CAP=20 DEDUP HEALTH ALTROOT zptemp 696G 574G 122G - - 20% 82%=20 1.00x ONLINE /zptemp-mnt/ gpt/wdk23CA78Czfs 700G 574G 122G - - 20% 82.5%= =20=20=20=20=20 - ONLINE # zfs list # shortened listing via ". . ." for omissions NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT zptemp 574G 100G 96K=20 /zptemp-mnt//zwdk23 . . . zptemp/ROOT 4.94G 100G 96K none zptemp/ROOT/build_area_for-main-CA76 364K 100G 3.00G none zptemp/ROOT/main-CA76 4.94G 100G 2.88G none zptemp/poudriere 516G 100G 112K=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/local/poudriere zptemp/poudriere/data 516G 100G 128K=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/local/poudriere/data zptemp/poudriere/data/.m 112K 100G 112K=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/local/poudriere/data/.m zptemp/poudriere/data/cache 16.4M 100G 16.4M=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/local/poudriere/data/cache . . . zptemp/poudriere/ports 96K 100G 96K=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/local/poudriere/ports zptemp/tmp 14.8M 100G 14.8M /zptemp-mnt//= tmp zptemp/usr 13.9G 100G 96K /zptemp-mnt//= usr . . . zptemp/usr/home 906M 100G 906M=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/home zptemp/usr/local 2.37G 100G 2.37G=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/local . . . zptemp/usr/ports 6.81G 100G 6.81G=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/ports zptemp/usr/src 96K 100G 96K=20 /zptemp-mnt//usr/src zptemp/var 47.0M 100G 96K /zptemp-mnt//= var zptemp/var/audit 360K 100G 360K=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/audit zptemp/var/crash 184K 100G 184K=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/crash zptemp/var/db 42.0M 100G 96K=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/db zptemp/var/db/pkg 41.8M 100G 41.8M=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/db/pkg zptemp/var/db/ports 148K 100G 148K=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/db/ports zptemp/var/log 2.75M 100G 2.75M=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/log zptemp/var/mail 1.24M 100G 1.24M=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/mail zptemp/var/tmp 404K 100G 404K=20 /zptemp-mnt//var/tmp Over the years I've never had a problem with shutdown or reboot for such a context. But I've not used mirroring or other such. 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I guess a writer holds the lock, or a reader leaked one. I looked through uses of ZFS_ENTER and couldn't find any leaks. I'm confused by the locking in zfsvfs_teardown(). That function unconditionally acquires the teardown write lock, but there exist cases lat= er in the function where it won't be released. Specifically, if `!unmounting = && !zfsvfs->z_unmounted && zfsvfs->z_ops !=3D NULL` is true, the write lock se= ems to be leaked. I'm not sure if that condition is possible in practice, but it looks rather odd. That code path could potentially be triggered by zfs_suspend_fs(), which is invoked by a couple of dataset operations, rollback and recv specifically, = but as far as I can see renaming a dataset won't trigger suspension. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Sun Oct 20 15:17:29 2024 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XWhrT3qpLz5ZQ8x for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XWhrT2hGVz4449 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729437449; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=txan6RWeEwVscl0KCk0nUL8zQIyfQd6ypiabmo+GX9Y=; b=aviZ92uA8ayU+urlug/RoG4ntdPJCqdiQNl+i0OEfScjxsu3wLki8OnG7Ktj032xStGlQ9 B4fBvnPZ/hmbKMyNmdwhR3PkiBGCqFqBtVmdvjqX2sptx+B2GJklZyCZzCXf5e+4BxYtUc 7rVbLWwDod9XJI0furCTt5/l9o0xzjsI36TNFqb6aDg/sfVwo1wU0s2JFR9pjYJ2pDBby5 tNlahtXoEhjZioztNw8uw2GdwTBI6a7ZPXSIV/deqKEedcwHALyqW9QrsAWoWFCThX6zYK 289b6doCck9j/eaBTR1CkXU12GfrrXBGVD2B7+tatPjfKqIA62nIj9H/ZK8ZPw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729437449; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Cbb97Jp/pCRNlrwXeLUr4Y3VdnL1hqBA6g7VTudH+3CAsAGxgr4nlfOnSZAN4tWC0iZ1XS q9P3dyf3acOUpVLGZHZ9K5RZoQuMYdfxACLUGLyAaJbV2vGUENEiRbRGUj2TNzjCNb/Yus EqVyz20E0lYdxsEoo7nbiJDuVVedmixNOi/QT6I95LJjCOI8IqdGRLggMi1/ZZAtzb569a sCn1ILtwsq4bgsOI2DSDTVBNrrMO74la7JCLm8AQcX+cGBPdn26dSe2pR0ItvXsON86LOP 8PJ1DXvNdtSZ4EXFTL+aEJEuseAIFAyPEhTjc6s2LK6DiDku2TPunSjUNLFC4g== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XWhrT2HKyz16Mc for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 49KFHTsu014982 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:17:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 49KFHTdd014981 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:17:29 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 282169] zfs rename deadlock with mountd, df & fstat (and possibly others) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 15:17:29 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.4-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: markj@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282169 --- Comment #2 from Mark Johnston --- (In reply to Mark Johnston from comment #1) ah, I missed the comment at the top of the function. The caller is expecte= d to call zfs_resume_fs() to release the locks, and it looks like that's handled properly. I think it'll be hard to track down what happened unless we can look at the lock state using a vmcore or so. I wonder if it'd be possible to re-trigger the deadlock, and then panic the system to collect a core dump? --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Sun Oct 20 18:07:34 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XWmcP3p3wz5Zc56 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.e.hecht@t-online.de) Received: from mailout12.t-online.de (mailout12.t-online.de [194.25.134.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XWmcN0Hdbz4MbG for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 18:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.e.hecht@t-online.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of a.e.hecht@t-online.de designates 194.25.134.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=a.e.hecht@t-online.de; dmarc=none Received: from fwd70.aul.t-online.de (fwd70.aul.t-online.de [10.223.144.96]) by mailout12.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 01AC8A722 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:07:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from X230.domain.home ([79.231.11.72]) by fwd70.t-online.de with (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1t2aKf-0OLeV60; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:07:13 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:07:34 +0200 From: Andreas Hecht To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: FAT32 support on freebsd Message-ID: Reply-To: a.e.hecht@t-online.de List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1729447633-8963143E-DDF6EEBA/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: 94e2c642-1580-4934-b72a-3d5cb2d1ffef X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.58)[0.576]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.36)[0.361]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:194.25.134.16/28:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[194.25.134.22:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.04)[-0.036]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[t-online.de]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[t-online.de]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[194.25.134.22:from]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[t-online.de]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[a.e.hecht@t-online.de]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[t-online.de] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XWmcN0Hdbz4MbG X-Spamd-Bar: / My FAT32 formatted portable SSD "Western Digital My Passport 25F3" does not seem to be supported by FreeBSD. Mounting the drive works fine but I can not access the data stored within it: # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt # cd /mnt # ls -al total 0 The 'ls -al' above should show a folder named 'data' stored in the top level diretory of the drive. The folder does not show up but during execution of 'ls -al' the following kernel message appears: getblkx: maxsize(66560) > maxbcachebuf(65536) I found that this particular drive uses 128 sectors per cluster. This multiplied with 512 bytes per sector results in 65536 bytes per sector which per FAT specification seems to be too much: (https://www.cs.fsu.edu/~cop4610t/assignments/project3/spec/fatspec.pdf) "Note however, that a value should never be used that results in a “bytes per cluster” value (BPB_BytsPerSec * BPB_SecPerClus) greater than 32K (32 * 1024). There is a misconception that values greater than this are OK." What makes me wonder is that the same drive works fine with Debian 12 and NetBSD 10. Is FreeBSD supposed to support this drive? 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 20.10.24 um 20:07 schrieb Andreas Hecht: > My FAT32 formatted portable SSD "Western Digital My Passport 25F3" does not > seem to be supported by FreeBSD. Mounting the drive works fine but I can not > access the data stored within it: > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt > # cd /mnt > # ls -al > total 0 > > The 'ls -al' above should show a folder named 'data' stored in the > top level diretory of the drive. The folder does not show up but during > execution of 'ls -al' the following kernel message appears: > > getblkx: maxsize(66560) > maxbcachebuf(65536) > > I found that this particular drive uses 128 sectors per cluster. This > multiplied with 512 bytes per sector results in 65536 bytes per sector > which per FAT specification seems to be too much: > (https://www.cs.fsu.edu/~cop4610t/assignments/project3/spec/fatspec.pdf) > "Note however, that a value should never be used that results in a “bytes per > cluster” value (BPB_BytsPerSec * BPB_SecPerClus) greater than 32K (32 * 1024). > There is a misconception that values greater than this are OK." > > What makes me wonder is that the same drive works fine with Debian 12 and > NetBSD 10. Is FreeBSD supposed to support this drive? Shall I send a problem > report? Without knowing the exact details of your FAT32 partition, I do assume that the clusters are not aligned to a 4 KB boundary. The MSDOSFS in FreeBSD maps sectors of the FAT32 partition to pages in such a way that the first sector of a cluster may be in the middle of a VM page. That leads to cluster of 128 * 512 Bytes to require 17 instead of 16 pages in the buffer cache. The newfs_msdos command in FreeBSD has been modified to adjust the first sector in each data cluster to a multiple of the page size, which avoids this issue. You can mount your FAT32 file system if you add the following to your loader configuration file /boot/loader.conf: vfs.maxbcachebuf=131072 In fact, setting this value to 69632 (17 * 4096) should suffice ... I plan to remove this limit from FAT32, but setting vfs.maxbcachebuf should allow you to work with that drive. Beste Grüße, STefan From nobody Sun Oct 20 19:42:55 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XWpkh6DXZz5ZhSN for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.e.hecht@t-online.de) Received: from mailout06.t-online.de (mailout06.t-online.de [194.25.134.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XWpkh3Hsqz4fQb; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.e.hecht@t-online.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fwd76.aul.t-online.de (fwd76.aul.t-online.de [10.223.144.102]) by mailout06.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 58EFC1734B; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:42:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from X230.domain.home ([79.231.11.72]) by fwd76.t-online.de with (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1t2bov-0BAP9E0; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:42:34 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:42:55 +0200 From: Andreas Hecht To: Stefan Esser , freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAT32 support on freebsd Message-ID: Reply-To: a.e.hecht@t-online.de References: <4382b73c-41f7-4689-a1ee-945d0a9c6e12@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4382b73c-41f7-4689-a1ee-945d0a9c6e12@FreeBSD.org> X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1729453354-C57F85E0-C212668D/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: 57690ee0-78b8-48ea-a86f-c6daf49f1f72 X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4XWpkh3Hsqz4fQb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 08:57:13PM +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 20.10.24 um 20:07 schrieb Andreas Hecht: > > My FAT32 formatted portable SSD "Western Digital My Passport 25F3" does not > > seem to be supported by FreeBSD. Mounting the drive works fine but I can not > > access the data stored within it: > > > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt > > # cd /mnt > > # ls -al > > total 0 > > > > The 'ls -al' above should show a folder named 'data' stored in the > > top level diretory of the drive. The folder does not show up but during > > execution of 'ls -al' the following kernel message appears: > > > > getblkx: maxsize(66560) > maxbcachebuf(65536) > > > You can mount your FAT32 file system if you add the following to your > loader configuration file /boot/loader.conf: > > vfs.maxbcachebuf=131072 This works perfectly. 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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 269503 | docs.freebsd.org: default vfs.zfs.arc.meta_limit Open | 271384 | zfs_load is not suitably documented Open | 226130 | ZFS: solaris assert: zrl->zr_refcount == 0 (0x1 = 3 problems total for which you should take action. --17294580262.CcB6A9fF.41595 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:00:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
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Open        |    269503 | docs.freebsd.org: default vfs.zfs.arc.meta_limit
Open        |    271384 | zfs_load is not suitably documented
Open        |    226130 | ZFS: solaris assert: zrl->zr_refcount == 0 (0x1 =

3 problems total for which you should take action.
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