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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9d44bd2e0be1f7cde808994d5b3f0ab2; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 08:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) Subject: Re: list of valid ABI combinations From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 00:00:19 -0800 Cc: Dan Langille , FreeBSD Hackers Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <41A815DF-8F94-4B00-AEDF-D5E7456A0914@yahoo.com> References: To: Philip Paeps , "clusteradm@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.86 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.36)[-0.356]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.82:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.82:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T7mhP4Rqjz4bRp On Jan 1, 2024, at 21:45, Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2024-01-02 12:38:47 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote: >> [FYI: My internet access is limited to a cellphone for some number of = days.] I'm back to having my normal internet access. >>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 19:26, Philip Paeps wrote: >>>=20 >>> =EF=BB=BFOn 2023-12-07 23:03:33 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote: >>>> . . . >>>>=20 >>>> There might be issues at times with = https://pkg.freebsd.org/index.html not >>>> being in sync. As far as I can tell, that page is manually = maintained. >>>=20 >>> clusteradm updates that page to match what we're actually = distributing. If it doesn't reflect reality, that's a bug, and we'd = like to know please. :-) >>=20 >> Does that include the =E2=80=9Conly ??? Is updated=E2=80=9D sorts of = notes? >=20 > Yes. Please let clusteradm know if the notes don't appear to reflect = reality. >=20 > clusteradm maintains the pkgsync infrastructure, which includes the = index page on the mirrors. pkgmgr is responsible for scheduling the = builds. (And ports committers are responsible for making sure packages = are even buildable). >=20 >> For example, FreeBSD:13:armv6 Latest dates back to 2021-Jan-25 but = there is no note about quarterly only. Various FreeBSD:15:* do not have = notes about Latest only, despite having no quarterly at all. Some other = cases have notable but shorter differences in the Latest vs. Quarterly = time frames, suggesting only one is being updated but no fixed = difference is definitive for that status. >=20 > The pkgsync infrastructure doesn't really care how often packages are = updated. If memory serves, we first added a "quarterly only" note when = the thunderxX generation of aarch64 builders broke with distressing = regularity. The ampereX builders are much more reliable. >=20 > I think the current situation for armv6 is "updated irregularly". = PowerPC is in the same boat as aarch64 in the ThunderX era: when the = hardware works, packages are updated. >=20 > . . . > Philip >=20 > --=20 > Philip Paeps > Senior Reality Engineer > Alternative Enterprises Using https://dev.freshports.org/ports-mgmt/pkg looking for versions involved that are prior to 1.20.* at this point (or being "-") but having also a 1.20.* involved (or both being "-"), hovering in order to see dates when available . . . Not-reported / misreported on https://pkg.freebsd.org/ : FreeBSD:13:armv6 latest 1.16.2 (2021-01-25) vs. quarterly 1.19.2 = (2023-09-05) So only quarterly is updated (and not regularly?). FreeBSD:14:armv6 latest 1.19.0 (2023-01-15) vs. quarterly - So only latest is/was updated (and not regularly). FreeBSD:14:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly - So neither latest nor quarterly is updated. FreeBSD:15:aarch64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - So only latest is updated. FreeBSD:15:amd64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - So only latest is updated. FreeBSD:15:armv7 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - So only latest is updated. FreeBSD:15:powerpc latest - vs. quarterly - So neither latest nor quarterly is updated. FreeBSD:15:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly - So neither latest nor quarterly is updated. FreeBSD:15:powerpc64le latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly - So only latest is updated. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com