From nobody Mon Aug 5 08:41:32 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Wcqfp6381z5SrY5 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Wcqfm74Mdz4rHY; Mon, 5 Aug 2024 08:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61DF9892BF; Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.18.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 4758fWV1056499; Mon, 5 Aug 2024 08:41:32 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202408050841.4758fWV1056499@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Alan Somers cc: Warner Losh , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: A Demo of rust-in-base In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <202408041800.474I0HUM050473@critter.freebsd.dk> <202408041820.474IKjVV050602@critter.freebsd.dk> <202408041904.474J4b9e050871@critter.freebsd.dk> <202408042038.474KcKrD052069@critter.freebsd.dk> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <56497.1722847292.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:41:32 +0000 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Wcqfm74Mdz4rHY -------- Alan Somers writes: > If the fusefs test suite were external, [...] > Any user running the tests would need to build the > port about once per month, if they track stable/13. [...] I understand that, and I share your pain: I've been there myself with code I have maintained for customers. But isn't this a transient problem ? I would expect fusefs, like everything else, to settle down over time ? Also: How many people are we talking about, world-wide ? A dozen ? Four dozens ? Adding Rust to src would inconvenience /everybody/, every time they do a "make buildworld". The solution is not to add Rust to src. The solution is to get rid of the "Src is the holy ivory tower, everything else is barbarians" mentality, which have gotten us into trouble with ISDN, ATM, Perl and much else over the years. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.