From nobody Mon May 27 07:14:55 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hubs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vnn3h2Dsmz5LgMZ for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 07:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.org.za) Received: from marge.meraka.csir.co.za (marge.meraka.csir.co.za [IPv6:2001:4200:7000:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vnn3g1GwRz4PVj for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 07:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.org.za) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jhay@meraka.org.za designates 2001:4200:7000:3::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jhay@meraka.org.za Received: from marge.meraka.csir.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marge.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B173551A7 for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 09:15:13 +0200 (SAST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at meraka.org.za Received: from marge.meraka.csir.co.za ([127.0.0.1]) by marge.meraka.csir.co.za (marge.meraka.csir.co.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mq2befaMPQ3S for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 09:15:11 +0200 (SAST) Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com (mail-pg1-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by marge.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 09:15:10 +0200 (SAST) Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-65b4d0a7391so5293673a12.2 for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 00:15:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyRM3PAo2lLU2kEnHpS2BFcmm7ixJdSlJ6ef9dxO9usk8aTG7nH 2ulolrDmPHoDoQ645z+WPtdeywx4Y9SCXDbV81UR63bVxVxcqT4mN20FvOPPvsHyutSAB8nWNI0 Dt1nvbqBGTUz0bC1l7VUZOlnFCssqbOOdRBFp/A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGkSFPRht2In93+E6jWvP23CPhtKQoOWCx9nw+wW4fpb7/4c1ATjkJiQLOB3B0IicPYaSD6wSYFRkMNUCJFV20= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:2391:b0:2b6:c4d7:fd9d with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2bf5f208cc9mr7620527a91.35.1716794107048; Mon, 27 May 2024 00:15:07 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hubs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: John Hay Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 09:14:55 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: CC.freebsd.org mirrors still relevant? To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e75bab06196a465a" X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.20 / 15.00]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[7]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:4200:7000:3::1]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2018, ipnet:2001:4200:7000::/48, country:ZA]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jhay]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[meraka.org.za]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.215.182:received] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vnn3g1GwRz4PVj --000000000000e75bab06196a465a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I have been the za.freebsd.org and internat.freebsd.org dns guy and also maintaining an ftp server under it for a long time. Over the years, newer services like pkg and freebsd-update were developed and they do not use it, but use a dns geolocation system. Even the main www.freebsd.org and ftp.freebsd.org dns has been geolocated and here it is pointing to a server that seems to be hosted at one of the big peering points in South Africa (za). The connectivity looks good. It has both IPv6 and IPv4 addresses. File transfers are at ~100MiB/s. So I think the question is, does it still make sense to host the country code mirrors and dns? Maybe there are other areas or countries that are not so "lucky"? Regards John --000000000000e75bab06196a465a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I have been the za.freebsd.org and internat.freebsd.org dns guy and also maintaining an ftp= server under it for a long time.

Over the years, = newer services like pkg and freebsd-update were developed and they do not u= se it, but use a dns geolocation system. Even the main www.freebsd.org and f= tp.freebsd.org dns has been geolocated and here it is pointing to a ser= ver that seems to be hosted at one of the big peering points in South Afric= a (za). The connectivity looks good. It has both IPv6 and IPv4 addresses. F= ile transfers are at ~100MiB/s.

So I think the= question is, does it still make sense to host the country code mirrors and= dns?

Maybe there are other areas or countries tha= t are not so "lucky"?

Regards
=
John
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 12:04:42 +0800 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r6030) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hubs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed On 2024-05-27 15:14:55 (+0800), John Hay wrote: > I have been the za.freebsd.org and internat.freebsd.org dns guy and > also > maintaining an ftp server under it for a long time. Thank you John. :-) > Over the years, newer services like pkg and freebsd-update were > developed > and they do not use it, but use a dns geolocation system. Even the > main > www.freebsd.org and ftp.freebsd.org dns has been geolocated and here > it is > pointing to a server that seems to be hosted at one of the big peering > points in South Africa (za). The connectivity looks good. It has both > IPv6 > and IPv4 addresses. File transfers are at ~100MiB/s. > > So I think the question is, does it still make sense to host the > country > code mirrors and dns? > > Maybe there are other areas or countries that are not so "lucky"? We (clusteradm) have been actively trying to phase out the cc.f.o mirrors in favour of our own CDN with clusteradm-managed mirrors. While the asynchronous cc.f.o mirrors served us well in the 1990s and early 2000s, our synchronised CDN is a better fit for the world we currently live in. Currently we have 14 sites around the world. We could use more. We only have one mirror in Africa at JINX. If anyone wants to provide a {download,pkg,www}.FreeBSD.org site, please get in touch. We're particularly keen to hear from sites who can provide hardware as well as connectivity. Philip From nobody Tue May 28 04:35:54 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hubs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VpKTg3jqZz5LYbP for ; Tue, 28 May 2024 04:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.org.za) Received: from marge.meraka.csir.co.za (marge.meraka.csir.co.za [IPv6:2001:4200:7000:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VpKTf75jgz4bwQ for ; Tue, 28 May 2024 04:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhay@meraka.org.za) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from marge.meraka.csir.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marge.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id A606E61C0F for ; Tue, 28 May 2024 06:36:13 +0200 (SAST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at meraka.org.za Received: from marge.meraka.csir.co.za ([127.0.0.1]) by marge.meraka.csir.co.za (marge.meraka.csir.co.za [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bOCOzWnPiYkn for ; Tue, 28 May 2024 06:36:09 +0200 (SAST) Received: from mail-pj1-f41.google.com (mail-pj1-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by marge.meraka.csir.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Tue, 28 May 2024 06:36:09 +0200 (SAST) Received: by mail-pj1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2bdefdeb545so313175a91.2 for ; Mon, 27 May 2024 21:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwYKBjR8dOKWjaHD+ty0QAtR5BDwhucKlnMSY64CRZrWMZLZBk1 UiR+DxpH/66kwgJE7hRiZyxvJPRyeBailNiO4alMRrUbBJUq2R2X9U9+5tpH0/SFlxnVuQ/1iyw 5Yjr1tz7iCCfNMpPtQBcQHDU2EwOWDJ9yvsOKYg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGGK2vcHa9QWR9IUG9GcaCx3sw+hePiYm4pkgEUdMz+9H3C7ff56IqJ9cd7zfKVPRaVTxlCYWpdffpMahC1ROY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:d709:b0:2be:7650:a321 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2bf5e14fc2emr9350755a91.8.1716870966435; Mon, 27 May 2024 21:36:06 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hubs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: John Hay Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 06:35:54 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: CC.freebsd.org mirrors still relevant? To: Philip Paeps Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000014838f06197c2c9a" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2018, ipnet:2001:4200:7000::/48, country:ZA] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VpKTf75jgz4bwQ --00000000000014838f06197c2c9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Philip, On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 06:04, Philip Paeps wrote: > > We (clusteradm) have been actively trying to phase out the cc.f.o > mirrors in favour of our own CDN with clusteradm-managed mirrors. While > the asynchronous cc.f.o mirrors served us well in the 1990s and early > 2000s, our synchronised CDN is a better fit for the world we currently > live in. > > Currently we have 14 sites around the world. We could use more. We > only have one mirror in Africa at JINX. > > If anyone wants to provide a {download,pkg,www}.FreeBSD.org site, please > get in touch. We're particularly keen to hear from sites who can > provide hardware as well as connectivity. > So for interest sake at least, what do you need in terms of hardware? Does it have to be physical? What would be needed in terms of access? Do you then maintain the software side? Or is there a writeup about it somewhere? Regards John --00000000000014838f06197c2c9a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Philip,

On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 06:04, Philip Pa= eps <philip@freebsd.org> wr= ote:

We (clusteradm) have been actively trying to phase out the cc.f.o
mirrors in favour of our own CDN with clusteradm-managed mirrors.=C2=A0 Whi= le
the asynchronous cc.f.o mirrors served us well in the 1990s and early
2000s, our synchronised CDN is a better fit for the world we currently
live in.

Currently we have 14 sites around the world.=C2=A0 We could use more.=C2=A0= We
only have one mirror in Africa at JINX.

If anyone wants to provide a {download,pkg,www}.FreeBSD.org site, please get in touch.=C2=A0 We're particularly keen to hear from sites who can =
provide hardware as well as connectivity.

So for interest sake at least, what do you need in terms of hardware? Do= es it have to be physical? What would be needed in terms of access? Do you = then maintain the software side? Or is there a writeup about it somewhere?<= /div>

Regards

John


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Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 13:08:59 +0800 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r6030) Message-ID: <75AF127C-829A-426C-BC31-2FFB82E11414@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hubs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed On 2024-05-28 12:35:54 (+0800), John Hay wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 06:04, Philip Paeps wrote: >> We (clusteradm) have been actively trying to phase out the cc.f.o >> mirrors in favour of our own CDN with clusteradm-managed mirrors. >> While >> the asynchronous cc.f.o mirrors served us well in the 1990s and early >> 2000s, our synchronised CDN is a better fit for the world we >> currently >> live in. >> >> Currently we have 14 sites around the world. We could use more. We >> only have one mirror in Africa at JINX. >> >> If anyone wants to provide a {download,pkg,www}.FreeBSD.org site, >> please >> get in touch. We're particularly keen to hear from sites who can >> provide hardware as well as connectivity. > > So for interest sake at least, what do you need in terms of hardware? > Does > it have to be physical? What would be needed in terms of access? Do > you > then maintain the software side? Or is there a writeup about it > somewhere? The setup at JINX is a single-machine installation, Intel E3-1220 v6, 32G memory, 8x4T drives. For new installations, we'd probably prefer more memory -- we have at least 128G in the newer mirrors. We need at least 12T usable space. We like mirrored pairs for both reliability and disk I/O parallelism. We need naked internet - legacy and IPv6. For single-machine installations, we usually get a /28 on the 20th century internet and a /64 on the 21st century internet. In most sites, we rarely fill a 1G circuit. There's a somewhat detailed writeup here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Teams/clusteradm/generic-mirror-layout We manage the entire system. We only need local support if hardware breaks. The ZA mirror is fairly lightly loaded, and is well connected to most of southern Africa. I see 50-60ms latency from machines in TZ and KE and downloads at 40ish Mbit/s. I don't think another mirror in ZA would add much value. I don't have as convenient ways to test in northern/western Africa, but I would be surprised if the situation weren't much worse... I'd love a mirror in e.g. Lagos, Accra, or Dakar for faster downloads there. Philip