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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 15.0-CURRENT. Upgraded from 150014 to 1500015, if that's relevant. Customisations to  /root/.cshrc were lost. Noticeable when key bindings were incorrect. Regained from the boot environment that preceded the upgrade. If you like, I can provide a log of the upgrade. root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# bectl list -c creation | tail -n 6 1500014-oa-ports--61.1M2024-03-1211:44 1500014-pa-base--8.71M2024-03-1217:03 1500014-qa-kde6--685M2024-03-1223:58 1500014-ra-base--1.11G2024-03-1301:19 1500014-sa-base--1.09G2024-03-1313:07 1500015-01-baseNR/290G2024-03-1401:44 root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# less /.cshrc #root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# less /root/.cshrc root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# less /etc/csh.cshrc root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# bectl mount 1500014-sa-base /tmp/down /tmp/down root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# less /tmp/down/.cshrc /tmp/down/.cshrc:Nosuchfileordirectory root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# rm /.cshrc root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# less /tmp/down/root/.cshrc root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~# diff /tmp/down/root/.cshrc /root/.cshrc 23,24c23 <# setenv EDITOR /usr/bin/vi <# setenv VISUAL /usr/bin/vi --- >setenv EDITOR vi 27,35d25 <# 2021-04-21 xterm1 <# setenv TERM xterm1 <# 2021-04-21 no entry for terminal type "xterm-256" <# setenv TERM xterm-256 < <# setenv TERM vt200 <# setenv TERM xterm set history = 1000 >set savehist = (1000merge) 53,63d42 <# bindkey '\e[1~' beginning-of-line <# bindkey '\e[4~' end-of-line

15.0-CURRENT. Upgraded from 150014 to 1500015, if that's relevant.

Customisations to  /root/.cshrc were lost. Noticeable when key bindings were incorrect.

Regained from the boot environment that preceded the upgrade.

If you like, I can provide a log of the upgrade.

root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # bectl list -c creation | tail -n 6
1500014-oa-ports - - 61.1M 2024-03-12 11:44
1500014-pa-base - - 8.71M 2024-03-12 17:03
1500014-qa-kde6 - - 685M 2024-03-12 23:58
1500014-ra-base - - 1.11G 2024-03-13 01:19
1500014-sa-base - - 1.09G 2024-03-13 13:07
1500015-01-base NR / 290G 2024-03-14 01:44
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # less /.cshrc
#root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ #
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # less /root/.cshrc
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # less /etc/csh.cshrc
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # bectl mount 1500014-sa-base /tmp/down
/tmp/down
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # less /tmp/down/.cshrc
/tmp/down/.cshrc: No such file or directory
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # rm /.cshrc
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # less /tmp/down/root/.cshrc
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # diff /tmp/down/root/.cshrc /root/.cshrc
23,24c23
< # setenv EDITOR /usr/bin/vi
< # setenv VISUAL /usr/bin/vi
---
> setenv EDITOR vi
27,35d25
< # setenv TERM xterm1
< # 2021-04-21 no entry for terminal type "xterm-256"
< # setenv TERM xterm-256
<
< # setenv TERM vt200
< # setenv TERM xterm
< setenv TERM xterm-256color
<
42,43c32,33
< set history = 2000
< set savehist = (2000 merge)
---
> set history = 1000
> set savehist = (1000 merge)
53,63d42
< # bindkey '\e[1~' beginning-of-line
< # bindkey '\e[4~' end-of-line
< bindkey '\e[3~' delete-char
< # bindkey '\e[5~' beginning-of-history
< # bindkey '\e[6~' end-of-history
< # bindkey '\e[2~' quoted-insert
< # bindkey '\e[5C' forward-word
< # bindkey '\e[5D' backward-word
< bindkey '\e[1;5C' forward-word
< bindkey '\e[1;5D' backward-word
<
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # find /tmp/down/root -name "*.pkgsave" -print
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # cp /tmp/down/root/.cshrc /root/.cshrc
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # bectl umount 1500014-sa-base
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # exit
logout
% su -
Password:
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # nano /root/.cshrc root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ #
root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # uname -aKU
FreeBSD mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT main-n268792-a7b9f4d96e8b GENERIC amd64 1500015 1500015
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 36ee80871f9f350386c3721d7d1496ed; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:02:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Will there be a way to avoid being too near when the likes of base_latest/ gets a new publication? Message-Id: <34BCE9B6-54D3-44D3-B3DE-32D04FB3F015@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:02:00 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) References: <34BCE9B6-54D3-44D3-B3DE-32D04FB3F015.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.69 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.688]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TxpqH2yYbz4Z5g I'm thinking of things like checking out updated kernel(s) before doing a more general update that includes more --vs. deciding to stick with an existing known-good context for a while instead. Getting that done between base_latest/ updates would be nicer than tracking if base_latest/ updated during the activity and, so end up needing to start over. (I'm still using the "world normally not newer than kernel" rule and the sequencing.) Technically, I'm not aware of a description of the kernel and world publication principles used by PkgBase. Those could interact with how to update appropriately. I will note that one thing I'm considering is testing PkgBase kernels before doing my own related kernel (and world) updates and builds. Basically checking: Would going forward for my personal builds likely be stepping into a mess or not? If a mess might be involved, then I'd judge if it is one I want to stay out of or not. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 5f79711ec100820eff4df40619c9695d; Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:49:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: PkgBase: pkg delete then pkg clean / pkg autoremove leave /var/cache/pkg/*.pkg space used for what was deleted Message-Id: <33456ACE-BE3E-4562-84C2-19141AE38C8D@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 12:49:45 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) References: <33456ACE-BE3E-4562-84C2-19141AE38C8D.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.83:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.83:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TyT942qHkz4SPH I started with: # pkg info 'FreeBSD-*' FreeBSD-kernel-generic-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-nodebug-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-nodebug-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656 I then did: # pkg delete FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656 = FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656 Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Deinstallation has been requested for the following 2 packages (of 0 = packages in the universe): Installed packages to be REMOVED: FreeBSD-src: 15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-src-sys: 15.snap20240316015656 Number of packages to be removed: 2 The operation will free 1 GiB. Proceed with deinstalling packages? [y/N]: y [1/2] Deinstalling FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656... [1/2] Deleting files for FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656: 100% [2/2] Deinstalling FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656... [2/2] Deleting files for FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656: 100% # pkg clean Nothing to do. # pkg autoremove Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Nothing to do. # pkg info 'FreeBSD-*' FreeBSD-kernel-generic-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-nodebug-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-nodebug-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-15.snap20240316015656 FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg-15.snap20240316015656 But: # cd /var/cache/pkg/ # ls -Tloa FreeBSD-src-* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 48 Mar 16 15:17:08 2024 = FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656.pkg -> = FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656~a6e257b777.pkg -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 120577371 Mar 15 19:03:36 2024 = FreeBSD-src-15.snap20240316015656~a6e257b777.pkg lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 52 Mar 16 15:17:23 2024 = FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656.pkg -> = FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656~843c75164f.pkg -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 97293229 Mar 15 19:06:31 2024 = FreeBSD-src-sys-15.snap20240316015656~843c75164f.pkg It seems nothing gets the *.pkg disk space back. (It is unclear if manual deletion is appropriate.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com