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No one > has produced an alternative that avoids the tradeoffs > as far as I know. So one picks between the tradeoffs > by the choice of which way to build. The reason why no alternative has been produced yet is make it self is broken at the theoretical level. Instead of doing a blond DFS it should build the entire DAG and then topolocgically walk it. See Recursive Make Considered Harmful by P. Miller -- https://accu.org/journals/overload/14/71/miller_2004/ (republished). While the DAG for the entire ports system (and for each port) is too big the DAG of what ports to do in what order is not and can easily be extracted from the ports make file. So there is really no excuse for excessive building (just a question of converting it all to DAG -- devel/cook does this and likely can be shoe horned into being a hybrid of allowing each port to use make recursively but at the top levle using a DAG). 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e2203333671d0f6daf8cb00d548474c2; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 03:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:21:40 -0800 Cc: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <64A10094-BC24-4A1D-AD7E-904C0BE7D886@yahoo.com> References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> To: Aryeh Friedman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TdSWR0n4Tz4pfV X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] On Feb 18, 2024, at 17:23, Aryeh Friedman = wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 3:21=E2=80=AFPM Mark Millard = wrote: >>=20 >> I fully agree that poudriere's systematic behavior >> rebuilds more than the likes of portmaster [but fails >> less often]. >>=20 >>=20 >> As stands there are tradeoffs between use of portmaster >> (and the like) vs. use of poudriere (/synth?). No one >> has produced an alternative that avoids the tradeoffs >> as far as I know. So one picks between the tradeoffs >> by the choice of which way to build. >=20 > The reason why no alternative has been produced yet is make it self is > broken at the theoretical level. Instead of doing a blond DFS it > should build the entire DAG and then topolocgically walk it. See > Recursive Make Considered Harmful by P. Miller -- > https://accu.org/journals/overload/14/71/miller_2004/ (republished). > While the DAG for the entire ports system (and for each port) is too > big the DAG of what ports to do in what order is not and can easily be > extracted from the ports make file. So there is really no excuse for > excessive building (just a question of converting it all to DAG -- > devel/cook does this and likely can be shoe horned into being a hybrid > of allowing each port to use make recursively but at the top levle > using a DAG). FYI: poudriere uses a prioritized topological sort of the package = dependencies made up front during the bulk build. There are files with the content during the bulk run: ${MASTER_DATADIR}/pkg_deps is used to produce a temporary: ${MASTER_DATADIR}/pkg_deps.ptsort which is, in turn, used to produce: ${MASTER_DATADIR}/pkg_deps.priority which is used, in turn, to set up the priority hash that is used. There are checks for having cycles (that would invalidate the DAG status). 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Aryeh Friedman wrote on 2024/02/19 10:23: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 3:21 PM Mark Millard wrote: >> >> I fully agree that poudriere's systematic behavior >> rebuilds more than the likes of portmaster [but fails >> less often]. >> > The reason why no alternative has been produced yet is make it self is We all love to talk about that area :) I am also sending something like this. https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2023-October/004837.html Anyway, poudriere rebuilds the package only to rewrite the version of dependent packages. And because the package is removed too soon, packages that do not need to be rebuilt are also included in the queue to be rebuilt. And I don't have the skills to be able to present the code that would fix the problem :) Well, if we make the mistake of operating poudriere and need to rebuild a lot of packages, we can just watch net*lix :) Regards. 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No one > >> has produced an alternative that avoids the tradeoffs > >> as far as I know. So one picks between the tradeoffs > >> by the choice of which way to build. > > > > The reason why no alternative has been produced yet is make it self is > > broken at the theoretical level. Instead of doing a blond DFS it > > should build the entire DAG and then topolocgically walk it. See > > Recursive Make Considered Harmful by P. Miller -- > > https://accu.org/journals/overload/14/71/miller_2004/ (republished). > > While the DAG for the entire ports system (and for each port) is too > > big the DAG of what ports to do in what order is not and can easily be > > extracted from the ports make file. So there is really no excuse for > > excessive building (just a question of converting it all to DAG -- > > devel/cook does this and likely can be shoe horned into being a hybrid > > of allowing each port to use make recursively but at the top levle > > using a DAG). > > FYI: > > poudriere uses a prioritized topological sort of the package dependencies > made up front during the bulk build. There are files with the content > during the bulk run: > > ${MASTER_DATADIR}/pkg_deps is used to produce a temporary: > > ${MASTER_DATADIR}/pkg_deps.ptsort which is, in turn, used to produce: > > ${MASTER_DATADIR}/pkg_deps.priority which is used, in turn, to set up > the priority hash that is used. > > There are checks for having cycles (that would invalidate the DAG > status). > > > Side note: devel/cook disapepared upstream some time ago and expired in > the ports tree and was removed at the end of 2023. 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And maybe call poudriere with the `-b latest` flag, so poudriere searches at first for already prebuild packages. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook --------------N1icmZqYXQyR0xUKYF0b8mYE Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Am 18.02.2024 um 18:52 schrieb Mark Millard:
NO_ZFS=yes
USE_TMPFS=no
PARALLEL_JOBS=2
ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=yes
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME=432000
NOHANG_TIME=432000
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_EXTRACT=14400
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_INSTALL=14400
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_PACKAGE=57600
MAX_EXECUTION_TIME_DEINSTALL=14400
maybe you also want to add:

CCACHE_DIR=/var/cache/ccache


this reduces a second build of e.g. llvm from about 2hours to 5-10 minutes.

And maybe call poudriere with the `-b latest` flag, so poudriere searches at first for already prebuild packages.

Gruß
Matthias

-- 

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to
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--------------N1icmZqYXQyR0xUKYF0b8mYE-- From nobody Mon Feb 19 07:38:12 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TdZCN0gpDz59yhV for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 07:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from egress.chen.org.nz (egress.chen.org.nz [170.75.172.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TdZCM1j2sz4CMP for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 07:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jonc@chen.org.nz designates 170.75.172.82 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jonc@chen.org.nz; dmarc=none Received: from mail.chen.org.nz (unknown [210.54.37.164]) by egress.chen.org.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63960111E19 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:37:39 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from mail.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter.inside.chen.org.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143552C825 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:38:14 +1300 (NZDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on ametrine.inside.chen.org.nz Received: from [192.168.1.10] (jade.inside.chen.org.nz [192.168.1.10]) by mail.chen.org.nz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 071322C824 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:38:14 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <2bbcfe51-13fa-46c2-86b8-7adde3b1d80e@chen.org.nz> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 20:38:12 +1300 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Subpackages: Update To: ports@freebsd.org References: <4021180.BRNeRiNLvY@mercury> Content-Language: en-US From: Jonathan Chen In-Reply-To: <4021180.BRNeRiNLvY@mercury> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TdZCM1j2sz4CMP X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.19 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:egress.chen.org.nz]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:174, ipnet:170.75.160.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[chen.org.nz]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] On 18/02/24 23:08, Max Brazhnikov wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:44:17 +0100 Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: >> Hi FreeBSD porters. >> >> Here are some updates about subpackages. >> >> At the moment, subpackages adoption is *on hold*, as a few annoying issues >> have been identified and they need some time to be fixed. >> A bug about optional dependencies for subpackages has already been fixed >> >> (OPT_*_DEPENDS.subpkg was not detected correctly) >> >> The main blockers are: >> * `make describe` is not subpackages aware. A fix is in review, but not yet >> ready to land. This is also breaking INDEX. >> * `make install` doesn't allow for partial installation. A patch is ready >> and in review (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43789) to address it (in >> reference to previous email threads) >> * poudriere forces the rebuild of subpackages dependency. 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charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TdZN015q0z4F3y X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 11:16:33 +0100 Felix Palmen wrote: > * Tomoaki AOKI [20240218 17:49]: > > [a lot about automotive regulations] > > That's a nice example how comparisons of entirely different domains > almost always go completely wrong. > > To start with, cars (and especially individual parts) typically aren't > subject to consumer customizations, and if they are, it's way outside > the manufacturer's responsibility. Here, we were talking about > breakage that only happened when you customized your port builds. We > aren't talking about security-relevant breakage either. A lot of words instead of a simple recognition of a mistake. > As explained in the PR as well, of course we add (temporary) > workarounds to *individual* ports when it seems necessary. We > certainly don't add workarounds to the framework itself unless it's > perfectly clear there will be no other way. Not even considering yet > that just fiddling with CFLAGS has the potential to break a lot of > other things when done globally. > > All I have left to say is seeing a toxic thread like this is a very > frustrating experience. So, I'll now move on to something else. > This is an erroneous policy leading to the loss of trust and users. Ports should work, the rest is not important. 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It should not require > > prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases > > portmaster and make install recursion fail where prodiere works). > > It does not. The thing is: contributor submissions should be buildable > in Poudriere because this is the way official packages are produced. > You are free to build on the host locally, but it hides some errors > which then break the build on our cluster. Without Poudriere you just > have to be more cautious and perform more thorough testing. The requirement for the use of Poudriere increases the entrance threshold. I personally will not waste my time on this. And no one else will also be engaged in this nonsense. The project will continue to stagnate with such requirements. But there are simple solutions. 1. You can add code for clean environment to the portmaster that will create a chroot, and transfer ports there with standard mechanisms. 2. Run poudriere as Ci at the github. 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Loss of this functionality = loss of one of the main competitive advantages over many Linux distributions. It will be easier to go to Ubuntu than to use FreeBSD. > > So when is it going to be possible for a mere mortal like the > > machine above to use portmaster or recursive make install since > > Poudrie is a machine killer > > Both options are probably no longer possible given the requirements > in the convoluted world of software. > > See for example this article: > > https://spectrum.ieee.org/lean-software-development > If you do not look at Python and Ruby projects, then everything is not so bad with dependencies and assembly. But this and all sorts of docker are a consequence of the fact that there are many construction cubes - libraries from which you can assemble anything. 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Then I have some other notes > after that material. I wrote about the fact that it is bad to demand a poudriere and use its absence as an argument. =46rom my point of view, Poudriere is a tool that FreeBSD Foundation wrote for themselves and those who want to assemble the entire port of ports. =20 > As far as more ports building in poudriere than in > "portmaster and make install recursion" in other > respects than resources: it is easier to make ports > build in poudriere. It provides the simpler/cleaner > context for the individual builders. More things > lead to failure outside poudriere that are just not > issues when poudriere is used so more care is needed > setting up the ports for the likes of portmaster use. > (And, yes, I used to use portmaster.) The required > range of testing contexts is wider for use of the > likes of portmaster to know that the port build will > just work in the full range of contexts. >=20 > Such issues adds to the port maintainer/committer > development burdens when portmaster or the like are > the target level/type of support. =20 This topic is not about the assembly of ports, it is about problems in the community of people. Poudriere is useless when for 1.5 months they cannot correct the work of a key dependence. Poudriere is useless when the functionality you need is not accepted simply because one person wished. 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Dyatko" wrote: > After 2080c2eddaca4fa188668ae9fe8d76e0461378c3 I'm unable to build > graphics/mesa-libs because host I'm using doesn't support kcmp(2), > it is FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #24 main-n265517-37236ab7e4e8-dirty > It seems that _supported_ X.Y-RELEASE doens't have it too and we > should have if in Makefile.common. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0e56271733cd8fc9a89791f161ebbf68; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 16:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 08:16:23 -0800 Cc: aryehfriedman@gmail.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> To: Rozhuk Ivan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TdnjL4hYZz4TqT X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.30:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.30:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] On Feb 19, 2024, at 00:43, Rozhuk Ivan wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 08:52:55 -0800 > Mark Millard wrote: > >>> It should not require >>> prodiere running on a supermassive machine to work (in many cases >>> portmaster and make install recursion fail where prodiere works). >> >> As for configuring for small, slow systems relative to >> resource use, I provide some settings that I've >> historically used below. Then I have some other notes >> after that material. > > > I wrote about the fact that it is bad to demand a poudriere and use > its absence as an argument. I did not reply to your message(s) about such but to someone else's message about specific points they referenced. Do not take my previous notes as any sort of response to your prior material. > From my point of view, Poudriere is a tool that FreeBSD Foundation wrote > for themselves and those who want to assemble the entire port of ports. [This is the primary point I'm directly addressing in this reply. My reply is primarily just a contrast with part of my usage pattern.] I use poudriere for multiple platforms, but the number of packages that end up in the likes of a: /usr/local/poudriere/data/packages/main-*-default/All/ varies from under 300 to around 600, far less than the 34000+ packages involved in a from scratch "bulk -a". [I ignore here rare "bulk -a" builds as part of some testing activity. I do not use the packages such builds create.] >> As far as more ports building in poudriere than in >> "portmaster and make install recursion" in other >> respects than resources: it is easier to make ports >> build in poudriere. It provides the simpler/cleaner >> context for the individual builders. More things >> lead to failure outside poudriere that are just not >> issues when poudriere is used so more care is needed >> setting up the ports for the likes of portmaster use. >> (And, yes, I used to use portmaster.) The required >> range of testing contexts is wider for use of the >> likes of portmaster to know that the port build will >> just work in the full range of contexts. >> >> Such issues adds to the port maintainer/committer >> development burdens when portmaster or the like are >> the target level/type of support. > > > This topic is not about the assembly of ports, it is about > problems in the community of people. I did not reply to your message(s) about such but to someone else's message about specific points they referenced. Do not take my previous notes as any sort of response to your prior material. > Poudriere is useless when for 1.5 months they cannot correct > the work of a key dependence. [This is the secondary point I'm directly addressing in this reply.] Poudriere was useful for my purposes the whole time. The context with the problem was narrower and my activity did not overlap with where the problem was. The wording is overly wide in its span relative to poudriere. > Poudriere is useless when the functionality you need is not > accepted simply because one person wished. I did not reply to your message(s) about such but to someone else's message about specific points they referenced. Do not take my previous notes as any sort of response to your prior material. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Mon Feb 19 22:38:54 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TdyYL6FQwz59g1s for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 22:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from shell1.rawbw.com (shell1.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TdyYL06Fqz4bch; Mon, 19 Feb 2024 22:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 198.144.192.42 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of yuri@FreeBSD.org) smtp.mailfrom=yuri@FreeBSD.org; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=freebsd.org (policy=none) Received: from [192.168.5.3] (c-98-42-44-116.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.42.44.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 41JMctZh094183 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Feb 2024 14:38:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host c-98-42-44-116.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.42.44.116] claimed to be [192.168.5.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------qSXRd1CLuOlGbxyG5UbXLBDW" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 14:38:54 -0800 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Is API to access status of build servers documented? Content-Language: en-US To: Jan Beich Cc: "ports@freebsd.org" References: <4jf4-pe6l-wny@FreeBSD.org> From: Yuri In-Reply-To: <4jf4-pe6l-wny@FreeBSD.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TdyYL06Fqz4bch X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.74 / 15.00]; VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF(3.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.968]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7961, ipnet:198.144.192.0/23, country:US]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[yuri]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all:c]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------qSXRd1CLuOlGbxyG5UbXLBDW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jan, On 1/23/24 01:54, Jan Beich wrote: > $ fetch -qo -"https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/api/1/builds?type=package" | > jq -r ".. | select(.started? > $(date -v -2w +%s)) | .server" | sort -u This URL unfortunately returns an outdated servers list: foul1/foul2 aren't in the list, and the last recorded build is in 2023. 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Jan,


On 1/23/24 01:54, Jan Beich wrote:
$ fetch -qo - "https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/api/1/builds?type=package" |
  jq -r ".. | select(.started? > $(date -v -2w +%s)) | .server" | sort -u


This URL unfortunately returns an outdated servers list: foul1/foul2 aren't in the list, and the last recorded build is in 2023.


I reported this problem (https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=276906), but so far got no useful answer.



Thanks,

Yuri


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Context For my part I appreciated Hubbard's pkg_* tools. Later pkg* and the ports infrastructure underwent substantial change. After a few years pkg and the ports infrastructure settled down, improving the build flow. The ports infrastructure and maintainers' Makefiles enable the task of building applications tremendously simple. Though I've often cursed the constant additions to the ports infrastructure (/usr/ports/Mk, Makefile syntax, pkg), the improvements are accessible, understandable and substantially transparent. This is a better end-user experience. Poudriere adds another layer to the pkg -> ports infrastructure -> Makefile flow. Which is ok, but the changes are often opaque and near impossible for end-users to change. portmaster shell isn't easy to navigate but it is a simple tool that fits the needs of very many builders. The end-user should be the topic of focus and keeping them engaged and using the FreeBSD platform with 'easy to build applications' the objective which leads to advocacy and growth. History As a newbie I used the packages that were available in FreeBSD 2.2.8 which flourished my use of "the system". Over time I realised that the ports maintainer's option choices didn't reflect my needs. Now I have 490 changes to the ports options and modified 233 ports' Makefiles and files/. This customisation is based, in priority order: security, features, performance. So for me the ports system is fantastic, without it, it would be impossible to maintain the 2400+ ports that I use on our servers. An expectation that only packages should be used by our wider community is a false assumption for anything other than novice personal use. Changing the ports infrastructure so that a build requires poudriere is wrong and as we're seeing divisive. The PR's are also a cause for hesitancy (see ref below) Regards, Dewayne Ref: 1. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&list_id=672566&query_format=advanced&short_desc=ports-mgmt%2Fpoudriere&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&list_id=672566&query_format=advanced&short_desc=ports-mgmt%2Fpkg&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr --00000000000051971f0611c56c73 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It seems that the ports developers h= ave a tool that they would like everyone to use, while members of the wider= community want choice.

Context
For = my part I appreciated Hubbard's pkg_* tools.=C2=A0 Later pkg* and the p= orts infrastructure underwent substantial change.=C2=A0 After a few years p= kg and the ports infrastructure settled down, improving the build flow.=C2= =A0 The ports infrastructure and maintainers' Makefiles enable the task= of building applications tremendously simple.=C2=A0 Though I've often = cursed the constant additions to the ports infrastructure (/usr/ports/Mk, M= akefile syntax, pkg), the improvements are accessible, understandable and s= ubstantially=C2=A0 transparent.=C2=A0 This is a better end-user experience.=

Poudriere adds another layer to the pkg ->= ports infrastructure -> Makefile flow.=C2=A0 Which is ok, but the chang= es are often opaque and near impossible for end-users to change.=C2=A0 port= master shell isn't easy to navigate but it is a simple tool that fits t= he needs of very many builders.=C2=A0=C2=A0

The en= d-user should be the topic of focus and keeping them engaged and using the = FreeBSD platform with 'easy to build applications' the objective wh= ich leads to advocacy and growth.

History
As a newbie I used the packages that were available in FreeBSD 2.2.8 whic= h flourished my use of "the system".=C2=A0 Over time I realised t= hat the ports maintainer's option choices didn't reflect my needs.= =C2=A0 Now I have 490 changes to the ports options and modified 233 ports&#= 39; Makefiles and files/.=C2=A0 This customisation is based, in priority or= der: security, features, performance. So for me the ports system is fantast= ic, without it, it would be impossible to maintain the 2400+ ports that I u= se on our servers.=C2=A0


An ex= pectation that only packages should be used by our wider community is a fal= se assumption for anything other than novice personal use.=C2=A0 Changing t= he ports infrastructure so that a build requires poudriere is wrong and as = we're seeing divisive.=C2=A0 The PR's are also a cause for hesitanc= y (see ref below)

Regards, Dewayne
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0ff2ecfd63223c1abcd43b4a30e3071f; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 18:34:19 -0800 Cc: Rozhuk Ivan , aryehfriedman@gmail.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7B21AFF0-E0D5-4836-8486-F812E79152DF@yahoo.com> References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> To: Dewayne Geraghty X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Tf3QN3WH2z43sL X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] On Feb 19, 2024, at 16:37, Dewayne Geraghty = wrote: > It seems that the ports developers have a tool that they would like = everyone to use, while members of the wider community want choice. I'm not a port developer but I use poudriere to build ports (into packages that I install). I used to use portmaster and so am (was?) familiar with that context. > Context > For my part I appreciated Hubbard's pkg_* tools. Later pkg* and the = ports infrastructure underwent substantial change. After a few years = pkg and the ports infrastructure settled down, improving the build flow. = The ports infrastructure and maintainers' Makefiles enable the task of = building applications tremendously simple. Though I've often cursed the = constant additions to the ports infrastructure (/usr/ports/Mk, Makefile = syntax, pkg), the improvements are accessible, understandable and = substantially transparent. This is a better end-user experience. [I had a question here. But the context was better handled in later material below.] > Poudriere adds another layer to the pkg -> ports infrastructure -> = Makefile flow. Which is ok, but the changes are often opaque and near = impossible for end-users to change. It probably should be separate from this topic, but I'd interested to understand some example types of changes folks make for which poudriere prevents the changes from working but for which portmaster use or make use allows the change to work. I have seen reports about ports that are broken when not built in poudriere's simpler builder context. I've not seen much about ports that fail to build only under poudriere but that systematically work via the likes of portmaster. Are any port changes being rejected because they fail to work in poudriere? (I've not noticed any examples.) It would seem that only failure under poudriere leading to rejection of desired changes to the port tree could possibly be strongly blamed on poudriere itself. If something works built via poudriere but not via portmaster (or the like), there is room for more port development so that portmaster or the like also work. But the failure when the build is attempted via portmaster (say) is not something that could reasonably be blamed on poudriere itself. [There are other rejection issues going on that do not fit the categories I've indicated, such as rejections that in part are reported to be because poudriere builds already work. I'm not trying to address those here --but finding folks willing and able to develop for portmaster or the like can be a challenge of itself when working-via-poudriere is easier to achieve.] > portmaster shell isn't easy to navigate but it is a simple tool that = fits the needs of very many builders. =20 >=20 > The end-user should be the topic of focus and keeping them engaged and = using the FreeBSD platform with 'easy to build applications' the = objective which leads to advocacy and growth. I'd say that the official pre-built packages are from a focus on end-users that are not also port developers and are not getting help from port developers that tailor things for them (the help leading to not using official pre-built packages). This might or might not be the larger end-user group compared to . . . End-users that are getting help from port developers to tailor things for them is another group. (I'd count personal port tailoring here as well --my category.) I can not tell how common this is vs. use of just official build of ports into packages. Focusing only here has its own potential problems. > History > As a newbie I used the packages that were available in FreeBSD 2.2.8 = which flourished my use of "the system". Over time I realised that the = ports maintainer's option choices didn't reflect my needs. Now I have = 490 changes to the ports options and modified 233 ports' Makefiles and = files/. This customisation is based, in priority order: security, = features, performance. So for me the ports system is fantastic, without = it, it would be impossible to maintain the 2400+ ports that I use on our = servers.=20 I have changes to port options, have modified port Makefiles, and have extra/modified patches in files/ --but on a smaller scale. I've yet to have poudriere use interfere with any such changes that I've made. I use (for an example amd64 context): # poudriere ports -l PORTSTREE METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH default null 2021-04-18 09:05:47 /usr/ports that has my modified ports tree. I also use my own builds/installs of the world(s) used for the jails: # poudriere jail -l JAILNAME VERSION ARCH METHOD TIMESTAMP PATH main-amd64 15.0-CURRENT amd64 null 2021-09-09 07:43:44 = /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/main-amd64-poud main-amd64-bulk_a 15.0-CURRENT amd64 null 2021-12-04 22:55:22 = /usr/obj/DESTDIRs/main-amd64-poud-bulk_a (My world builds are also somewhat tailored, as are my kernels. "bulk_a" stands for "bulk alternate", which on rare occasions is used for "bulk -a" as part of some sort of test in/of my environment.) > An expectation that only packages should be used by our wider = community is a false assumption for anything other than novice personal = use.=20 Did you mean "official prebuilt packages" above? If not, how does involvement of pkg for non-official build of packages become a problem? Also: portmaster builds packages (-g), makes backup packages of installed ports (-b and by default for deletion), and more. This again suggests that the "only packages should be used" reference might somehow be an incomplete context identification? > Changing the ports infrastructure so that a build requires poudriere = is wrong and as we're seeing divisive. As far as I know, anything made to work with portmaster or the likes also works with poudriere and the infrastructure has no enforcement of poudriere-required anywhere. (There can be other forms of such.) It can be more work to have portmaster like builds/installs work in the full variety of live contexts. But when it does, poudriere should just-work for building/installing as well. Other forms of blocking things that would work for both portmaster (say) and poudriere is not what I'm trying to deal with here: just infrastructure issues. (But: I've no clue if subpackages might be introducing infrastructure ties I'm unaware of.) > The PR's are also a cause for hesitancy (see ref below)=20 >=20 > Regards, Dewayne >=20 > Ref:=20 > 1. = https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=3D__open__&list_i= d=3D672566&query_format=3Dadvanced&short_desc=3Dports-mgmt%2Fpoudriere&sho= rt_desc_type=3Dallwordssubstr > = https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=3D__open__&list_i= d=3D672566&query_format=3Dadvanced&short_desc=3Dports-mgmt%2Fpkg&short_des= c_type=3Dallwordssubstr >=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Tue Feb 20 04:00:17 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Tf5KG75f1z5BCC0 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Tf5KG0m6Yz4DL1 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1708401618; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z2ZFFSKxGzU7lui8DK54UsXFeojsY5RdbqJ/LWlJU6Y=; b=q7cHF+f+PKDu28irIfAmyL3FvyMIE4hqtT/n+GuH3C4tMm5V5N14ymo5SBRUP7Dn7O4zjD pGvpLEWowlHPj+AA30ju7BIc36f1xeZtevySeSMkgWKMALZRPmmUujnKFTq4ZHK6Jxdghi d4lyQFg/maHRNGwdIBLAvmwZfB71lwS6FDTFWpJDSBuT4AgQFklKOGFgKIlPDKMNrWJkph V4w3NMmgeXF8UVHeV1iEIpyUB8l3m++dL5urMz3GGXS5d86MpWHdzS3y+usyelMEYI2zFP HCjfgVy19epy3KepheJMC/lKmF43FBGn7Kdz9NHbYg5KHvYaxZTcAU6qiEkXqA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1708401618; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=WHBs907khfwXTMniiOAhdDFWRRIZP51X0z6wLrCofXgYlmGqQTCgU/AvkV7+9PfxnBdkWx BZ9aeS4fYD/diLsp8B6JXF15SRarRSJjRqIH0qqMREW8CGEfxjeeEteeTsWTD9ji/ws4UT PwRI1jEhujt/dGpaGoZYDgG2PKvm8QCGtpPdQ/zmfQa5nByxIa97gOVpNJLaCSEBQAKlIF ZeaCRa4jwYrtNXPZlgUF7djMiw5SiGFgWbzHPWIerRgIsDeGkh5u4PhOEwWUWWTQPLSIII /6KdDltq/D2iA3zkTOBNrHICx4AJ9slG90WBQSXzxD3NIKB7C0zJz/WYHhMGRg== Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (portscout.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Tf5KF4rVnz139k for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.10]) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTP id 41K40H16010679 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:00:17 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 41K40HI6010678; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:00:17 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202402200400.41K40HI6010678@portscout.nyi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.nyi.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:00:17 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Unmaintained FreeBSD ports which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 Dear port maintainers, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more unmaintained ports appears to be out of date. 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FORGED_MUA_SEAMONKEY_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.930]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f403::/49]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+] Tatsuki Makino wrote on 2024/02/18 04:58: > If subpackage is considered to be a FLAVOR that can be optionally changed (but it seems not :) ), then something is still wrong around here. > https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/4ca881e06c33f85870127a57f9457ae6c1b69d74/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L5997 No matter how the poudriere side is touched, it cannot be guessed because the packages that depend on subpackage do not have that information. Instead of switching the contents of the value in the following section, it seems like a possible way to hold both in a variable for subtraction.... I don't know :) https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/bca07011c2f6f985e0b3e273276d73b6e9b90b6e/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L6100 https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/bca07011c2f6f985e0b3e273276d73b6e9b90b6e/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L6110 From nobody Tue Feb 20 13:01:25 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfKKm3ntvz5C2RC for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfKKm1KTGz4wtT for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 41KD1P8R013400; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:01:25 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 41KD1PAV013399; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:01:25 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202402201301.41KD1PAV013399@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:01:25 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: marklmi@yahoo.com, dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com Cc: rozhuk.im@gmail.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, aryehfriedman@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:01:25 +0000 (GMT) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfKKm1KTGz4wtT X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > flourished my use of "the system". Over time I realised that the ports > maintainer's option choices didn't reflect my needs. Now I have 490 > changes to the ports options and modified 233 ports' Makefiles and files/. > This customisation is based, in priority order: security, features, > performance. So for me the ports system is fantastic, without it, it would > be impossible to maintain the 2400+ ports that I use on our servers. > > > An expectation that only packages should be used by our wider community is > a false assumption for anything other than novice personal use. Changing > the ports infrastructure so that a build requires poudriere is wrong and as > we're seeing divisive. The PR's are also a cause for hesitancy (see ref > below) Ditto, 100%. I have many non-standard options, and local patches, many of whicha are customised per machine. I love "ports". Nothing against packages, but the ports is what drew me to FreeBSD. If that falls apart, I'll just end up scripting my own installs from source tar files. It would be a HUGE downgrade to FreeBSD From nobody Tue Feb 20 13:13:06 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfKb66k8Xz5C3Cf for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfKb659y2z4xpN for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 41KDD6pF013502; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:13:06 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 41KDD6G2013501; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:13:06 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202402201313.41KDD6G2013501@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:13:06 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: marklmi@yahoo.com, dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com Cc: rozhuk.im@gmail.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, aryehfriedman@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> <7B21AFF0-E0D5-4836-8486-F812E79152DF@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <7B21AFF0-E0D5-4836-8486-F812E79152DF@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:13:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfKb659y2z4xpN X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] Mark Millard wrote: > It probably should be separate from this topic, but I'd interested > to understand some example types of changes folks make for which > poudriere prevents the changes from working but for which portmaster > use or make use allows the change to work. I've many changes, nothing that would upset poudriere though. I've probably grasped the wrong ideas from this thread. I thought it was about the implied effective deprecation of the ports infrastructure for a binary package only structure, with poudriere being used to create custom packages in any way it wants going forward. If pordriere continues to build via the make system we have already, then I can't see any issue. What's the reasoning behind people claiming a shift from "make install" to poudriere is necessary? 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FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.41)[-0.413]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f400::/48:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+] On 2/20/24 06:13, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: > >> It probably should be separate from this topic, but I'd interested >> to understand some example types of changes folks make for which >> poudriere prevents the changes from working but for which portmaster >> use or make use allows the change to work. > > I've many changes, nothing that would upset poudriere though. > > I've probably grasped the wrong ideas from this thread. I thought it was > about the implied effective deprecation of the ports infrastructure for > a binary package only structure, with poudriere being used to create > custom packages in any way it wants going forward. > > If pordriere continues to build via the make system we have already, > then I can't see any issue. > > What's the reasoning behind people claiming a shift from "make install" > to poudriere is necessary? I don't consider it necessary, but building in a clean environment is desirable to minimize issues and maximize uptime. Some ports will fail to build or install when certain other packages have been installed; proper solution is to open a PR to get such cases identified and resolved. I'd go as far as to say a port should be marked as incompatible with itself if it uses already installed tools from an older version of the port or from a non-dependent package in place of ones that were built in the port's work directory as I have had builds fail doing an x86-x64 rebuild+reinstall step without first removing them (likely to be unsupported) and when trying to perform a general upgrade of an installed package/port (should be supported). Fixing the port's build system would be much more desirable to marking it as incompatible with itself but if a condition is detected where builds can go wrong then it is better to mark it as broken than let the user fail trying. In the past, I have reported such breakages and even when pkg-plist needed to be conditionally altered if something was already installed and maintainers addressed the issues accordingly. Dynamic dependency testing that a port's build system does should be changed to be manually fed a list of dependencies based on port options or the dependencies can be unconditionally added to avoid surprises that people get building a port on a clean machine vs one with an optional dependency already installed; it isn't 'necessary' but creates better conditions for packages to always match what a user could get and gives everyone less surprises. I have had other issues in the past by old remaining files from bad pkg-plist leaving things behind, unclean work directories (I hope this is not why the workdir is currently a version dependent folder; that practice needs to stop to greatly improve ccache results), and dependencies getting out of sync if port versions were not properly recursively bumped. When it comes to upgrades, a clean build environment is superior. Software often won't work when an upgrade has been partially performed which can break on the first run/lib dependency and isn't usable until the port itself is rebuilt after. That leads to a downtime of hours to days depending on how much work the machine has to do to do an update. If the upgrade fails partway through, software may continue to be unavailable until a port is fixed or downgraded to a previously unbroken version if no older package was saved to reinstall. Recursive dependency version bumping has had issues. As for my use, I'm a desktop user currently on older hardware and have felt my own pain learning how to try to use poudriere with it. Wonder if thigns have changed because 13-stable feels more painful than I remember when CPU gets heavily loaded by idprio'd processes. Poudriere's defaults are not sane for a modern desktop user but I do not have a 'good' non-manual fix until we start recording various build requirement details into ports themselves (which is an idea needing its own topic). > Cheers, Jamie > From nobody Tue Feb 20 14:42:00 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfMYk1XTVz5C9qS for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfMYk0PKRz57m6 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 41KEg0TH015761; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:42:00 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 41KEg0eh015760; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:42:00 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202402201442.41KEg0eh015760@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:42:00 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: ports@FreeBSD.org, mirror176@hotmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> <7B21AFF0-E0D5-4836-8486-F812E79152DF@yahoo.com> <202402201313.41KDD6G2013501@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Tue, 20 Feb 2024 14:42:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfMYk0PKRz57m6 X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" wrote: > > What's the reasoning behind people claiming a shift from "make install" > > to poudriere is necessary? > > I don't consider it necessary, but building in a clean environment is > desirable to minimize issues and maximize uptime. Some ports will fail > to build or install when certain other packages have been installed; > proper solution is to open a PR to get such cases identified and > resolved. I'd go as far as to say a port should be marked as > incompatible with itself if it uses already installed tools from an > older version of the port or from a non-dependent package in place of > ones that were built in the port's work directory as I have had builds > fail doing an x86-x64 rebuild+reinstall step without first removing them Thanks for the very detailed reply. I won't quote it all, but it was all relevant and useful. And I agree - I definitely think that a port has to pass a completely clean install before being committed. >From the user side, I also upgrade all ports at once some of the time, due to the issues you mention, and yes, it is a pain in the arse to do partial upgrades. Basically, I either agreed, or now agree, with everything you wrote. I think I was reading into this thread that the ports system as we know it was being deprecated in favour of poudriere. Yes, making the ports system more resilient is something I'd love to get involved with, but as long as the current system doesn't get exceptionally worse, I'm fine with it! Thanks again, Jamie. From nobody Tue Feb 20 15:18:18 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfNMq6XZQz5CDk1 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@marino.st) Received: from mail-qv1-xf2a.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TfNMq1yB4z40Y1 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@marino.st) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-qv1-xf2a.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-68f6cb80004so16763996d6.3 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 07:18:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marino-st.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1708442309; x=1709047109; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=ASzQlxswdfv6FTLhA28N9nmJaml6EREUA1T3PNJkYc4=; b=sG+3EY9094cKFmHtRCysuxl/RyIhGXy7WMfwHevvE/485gKrJFauqXgdKXgByIXHtm UgKpp81HZBh7miCZed7avJOLw7nH0P1qmhWIrup7pwmoc3Zqxn6Zs5zrmnug377b2yYM xwcBRMRwg2UOYcSuyP7HRKCtpe27oEaniFJWB2gzhB/kP1HM92bWg3RbT6S2B8TVutq3 JQfBYr9Pt7cb/bxiSTxvLYRdURSnCCfMDyCancFmjpxUOAX5ODeX6WBPioLGudNQV68S Jkg4rVqTuracJ2/DkfoTwqtjYPF3HDZDeHwBUHl3jrFV5FYeN6+tLu6f7gevjchhTRr0 n6zg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708442309; x=1709047109; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ASzQlxswdfv6FTLhA28N9nmJaml6EREUA1T3PNJkYc4=; b=D3WHW+gd+zUY8jj4seC6IVSUXSOa8SYA2U8pACvRPcqES9AuvsC006X2mAYQZTQSyC gMhyHB4vQEIcyf/ALYEZloR9wKSR6lxdQ5BoypNmf3wZKhJXROwOLhRhQ/2PBQUTQu+Q 6Yi6zvBmpFdTzfTI9BqB95NBv1gpiGvN9y6D84poO8PPMA46jFXo63JIe/JVKFNwK7k0 s61NeyDNtMnq3HLLFNd7FBLEQtqVW4h6+8iL430wBkFV12tzH9hbrenIV1XTPWWy/aAb WkSqDsLKkjgdQZALC3GgGIjzVKwtsEcnZs2Tp2La+qAxJYS52S1Y6D+HJlzhZyXw4dhg rWiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzIr9IERfRo+WYFbJ0BN89wGp547qNCdrnTn9H+FGVcqMioqO95 V2zz91wgclvcDDtunl/eetwxSKSsBxd0By9/hysoeQI9mU/mDjXOx4Yos/ZztdQtKo/+akHrEEt fIf4lUo6Xdn6twownUpQraVMiSdBMvNPuLa0GrUS6Hp2mDKy6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFK50Uj++PHg3Xt4snmpjgrTIOtdXkxD6dnEhvUzWLHen8BOJZzzyE9mAYhRhWEn2cu1dpge75dogUHSjK6FoE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:d0a:b0:68f:3c8c:8099 with SMTP id 10-20020a0562140d0a00b0068f3c8c8099mr12525231qvh.58.1708442309467; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 07:18:29 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240217110320.09af416e@venus.private.rrbrussell.com> In-Reply-To: From: "John Marino (FreeBSD)" Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:18:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Installed audio/alsa-plugins and dependencies To: Tatsuki Makino Cc: ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfNMq1yB4z40Y1 X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] The port builds fine. The problem is that the dependencies are not listed in the package manifest= . This is a bug in the code that creates the package manifest. That's why both Synth and Poudriere are considering the packages using subpackages to be invalid. They are examining the package manifest and seeing that it doesn't match up with the port Makefile, so it gets deleted as invalid, and the now-missing package causes everything dependent on it to rebuild. Fix the manifest and the problems will go away. On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:52=E2=80=AFAM Tatsuki Makino wrote: > > Tatsuki Makino wrote on 2024/02/18 04:58: > > If subpackage is considered to be a FLAVOR that can be optionally chang= ed (but it seems not :) ), then something is still wrong around here. > > https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/4ca881e06c33f85870127a57f9457= ae6c1b69d74/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L5997 > > No matter how the poudriere side is touched, it cannot be guessed because= the packages that depend on subpackage do not have that information. > > Instead of switching the contents of the value in the following section, = it seems like a possible way to hold both in a variable for subtraction....= I don't know :) > > https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/bca07011c2f6f985e0b3e273276d73b= 6e9b90b6e/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L6100 > https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/blob/bca07011c2f6f985e0b3e273276d73b= 6e9b90b6e/src/share/poudriere/common.sh#L6110 > > From nobody Tue Feb 20 17:09:51 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfQrg2Xhbz5416W for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic306-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic306-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TfQrf6sMjz4FNj for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1708449007; bh=GfEktru+D3pYY3Bhx1NSotGhgfGNBSZrOEEnGGDBVEE=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=BfmcoVhE9jiA10M+el8uInXTndzJf6RcD7vcpQrfjgOgiNb/iZOrC7BfdHT/iQbKNE1zjA0AAXck9XyILEKoieogOg1vxYa7Bqz3PJibtH1POAVH9jSNwjLTTxHJxtLKnnIXpAYaHmgRBF9bq29BWKz/k+XE2cMUdcHNXE3fzAvUDSw69tRVC29U6i+KhgFfHjo4kd6b6c0hjvg0LiLN24FRYb0mErDSOhGBGARhrb2PHjLNqKrMZJost5xRYrcpF0++A4l3p0qdcAOSvPT2OZtcKHkg9h7+QFliOlqjAaIamoJwPNrAx1Rwn7/aKUNkFcUelMXYYLetzQ8EmmJyRA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1708449007; bh=neYYb7GxvmpBeSEe4FwUZW0r9JnqjLKE8L17h+J/anA=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Subject:From:Date:To:From:Subject; b=jvAC7LEXSRecUgfS7Tm5i9cOaYMbMgeBtKSiyWWn8XAFaYTQ8SGR4Ro7ZKFLAW1ViaH/zcgHf38XOO/ONWQTuBRWRd1gsKDnwGK2IwLlgOXuOEBeHI3055YC2qzcJt9n1ClUJGn9H19ABw9Fky0wRj0/gx2a00+NUjRWrvyU6YXLy9IdG2tRmpkrlPnrRkaNuWLfoNbz1JSh43IDtKd8NsEupqDsfvJftVmgUxciR7lYmUkfcFeG/ItnaYgPA0y5AfiHqXTYmGI1pST8S75SE7NY6kvel6GilUajEPlIOswrY2Hx+l/KNhuee6iw0vYQ72kpqXp7uaEDS/v9Z9SWEA== X-YMail-OSG: LXTm7gAVM1nO9coAF9hDZawCP0hd.tnwvjney3w3ZdaIlruFZeomfI8iEWsNuKw R.9P6H61VgnmozoiYQ12sAyzkQBKm66jwG98b7bqCmofdQX_KLBHANH0LwUphodCKejvM5YpZnlM yx1sMqMUb8RGeR8i0XxICly0ZTGOqLTTpjz3vpfLsf4vQChHs98u5nBSlwtzhEGldMul8AMu.s8b sy5OYkMkeDnk.wJh0.oEIUrNSxESALuqB.iJQHHx_yITqxde0CTxkb12h8B0qX2F_DTl1keZQ0jj PSppGAFyKkChDIi6gkzkeHQyknjUdhQfMrwkklwG9RvYR5paAO0pTPmWglnK32y4Q2an9lU65M4Q nk7xVHLf3WsdGNp4iDYAddNlhditGhdt_s3lbYuy6IQKJP_M_pvK9ABJqbYJn6uIzXnlujFhO1RC dYX3NprWGCHvx7XnQ5zcKSBJOOQz7YxJ427JUt3UJei666Uf5bboFqRQzhmiwyWPrKvxDVzmWlgP qNtwXBn6NoUIkmXcLb0e5P4ErDBmVSOO1qAFxCeRB_gToWgKxHQ0ICi2T0Nje2hxuQrMNxce9dRS rnFcl8A4f8iJSJClryrhsqIZHieBOEFEXACgzDCLXp7Iuvvx76rf7InUAMpYBhpsb4XtK7xN25E0 LZ1dpJQiRrn3_kUQQ4W80fXZJ3gh8b381QePh4FHRPIp_ARfW0NNHUxBpLMgzeiRP1Nw70IEl9uM kB8dBe9cKjUmat2bcjCDNlV7v4IWQIGqZxF.LcxhSHQ6zVmRmfwHqmNhZocSZicUnreScVOl6tCU G4iNTXJJV3D8LB6mrnqhghXT03BPOFVDW6LPSlQooMZDX0.oFZR.zmVTu3g8D047DdcH.BBvMLP. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4b534c11c4f7f41e6ad0cec61b7935fb; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <202402201313.41KDD6G2013501@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:09:51 -0800 Cc: Dewayne Geraghty , Rozhuk Ivan , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , aryehfriedman@gmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9374651A-B5E2-4522-88C0-1E9A3F65E4EA@yahoo.com> References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> <7B21AFF0-E0D5-4836-8486-F812E79152DF@yahoo.com> <202402201313.41KDD6G2013501@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> To: Jamie Landeg-Jones X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfQrf6sMjz4FNj X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] On Feb 20, 2024, at 05:13, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > Mark Millard wrote: > >> It probably should be separate from this topic, but I'd interested >> to understand some example types of changes folks make for which >> poudriere prevents the changes from working but for which portmaster >> use or make use allows the change to work. > > I've many changes, nothing that would upset poudriere though. > > I've probably grasped the wrong ideas from this thread. I thought it was > about the implied effective deprecation of the ports infrastructure for > a binary package only structure, with poudriere being used to create > custom packages in any way it wants going forward. Please do not confuse the original thread's overall range of points with this more technical subthread. I've been limiting myself to the subthread's subject area as best I can. Given that focus, . . . To my knowledge, poudriere is a user of the ports and pkg infrastructures (that both exist independent of poudriere), never the other way around. In that it is like portmaster: layered on top without invalidating the infrastructures below. This also makes poudriere just one of multiple alternatives. I've not suggested eliminating any of them. > If pordriere continues to build via the make system we have already, > then I can't see any issue. Various folks want to avoid how much ends up being rebuilt and how much activity it takes to have the clean-context building activity poudriere has, and so they avoid the extra time spent building that way and prefer to more manually manage such. The clean-context building makes getting ports to build (into packages) easier. This means an effort/time/testing tradeoff exists for some ports that can fail when built/installed outside such a clean-context. Some volunteer activity will choose to stop at the "works when built in a clean context" level of support. In my view it is not reasonable to blame poudriere for this specific issue. (It is not the only form of the issue but I'm applying that the limited focus here.) (I've not tried synth but it may well count as another clean-context type of builder layered on top of the ports and pkg infrastructures. It may have different overheads. I've not checked what platforms it supports these days.) > What's the reasoning behind people claiming a shift from "make install" > to poudriere is necessary? > Probably just that various ports periodically run into some example of failing to build when attempted without a clean-context type of build but that do build in a clean-context --mixed other context that results in the support stoping at the "works when built in a clean context" level of support. (Some of that stopping is not just individual volunteer choices. But this gets well outside my note's focus.) === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Tue Feb 20 19:17:41 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfTh01b6dz55ShF for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from egress.chen.org.nz (egress.chen.org.nz [170.75.172.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfTgz0XmPz4X2Y; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jonc@chen.org.nz designates 170.75.172.82 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jonc@chen.org.nz; dmarc=none Received: from mail.chen.org.nz (unknown [210.54.37.164]) by egress.chen.org.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A441111E19; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 08:17:07 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from mail.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter.inside.chen.org.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8705C2CB25; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 08:17:42 +1300 (NZDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on ametrine.inside.chen.org.nz Received: from rainloop.jail (rainloop.jail [192.168.1.4]) by mail.chen.org.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8A62CA3C; Wed, 21 Feb 2024 08:17:42 +1300 (NZDT) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:17:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: RainLoop/1.17.0 From: jonc@chen.org.nz Message-ID: <1b27f0f5d3062493151897d85e562740@chen.org.nz> Subject: Re: Installed audio/alsa-plugins and dependencies To: "Jan Beich" Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <641ffb1d-1a6a-46bc-81ce-1daba2dec27b@chen.org.nz> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfTgz0XmPz4X2Y X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.65 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.55)[0.547]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:egress.chen.org.nz]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; ASN(0.00)[asn:174, ipnet:170.75.160.0/20, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[chen.org.nz]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] February 17, 2024 1:56 AM, "Jan Beich" wrote: >> But the installed package reports: >> 8:09pm# pkg info --dependencies alsa-plugins >> alsa-plugins-1.2.7.1_3: >> alsa-lib-1.2.10_1 >=20 >=20Check dependencies of subpackages instead e.g., >=20 >=20$ pkg info -xd 'alsa-plugins-[^0-9]' > alsa-plugins-ffmpeg-1.2.7.1_3: > ffmpeg-6.1.1_3,1 > alsa-lib-1.2.10_1 > alsa-plugins-jack-1.2.7.1_3: > jackit-1.9.22_2 > alsa-lib-1.2.10_1 > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.2.7.1_3: > pulseaudio-16.1_2 > alsa-lib-1.2.10_1 > alsa-plugins-samplerate-1.2.7.1_3: > libsamplerate-0.2.2_1 > alsa-lib-1.2.10_1 > alsa-plugins-speex-1.2.7.1_3: > speexdsp-1.2.1 > alsa-lib-1.2.10_1 >=20 >>=20It appears to be missing the SUBPACKAGE dependencies. Is this >> intentional, or a bug? >=20 >=20Intentional. See pkg-message: >=20 >=20Plugins with extra dependencies moved into subpackages: > - alsa-plugins-ffmpeg > - alsa-plugins-jack > - alsa-plugins-pulseaudio > - alsa-plugins-samplerate > - alsa-plugins-speex In my opinion, that's _not_ correct. When we install any non-SUBPACKAGE p= ackage, anything listed in LIB_DEPENDS or USES are automatically listed a= s package dependencies. However, if I install audio/alsa-plugins, the onl= y way I know what dependencies are required is to by consulting /usr/port= s/audio/alsa-plugins/Makefile. And if audio/alsa-plugins was to be compil= ed with non-standard OPTIONS, it's impossible to tell what dependencies a= re _actually_ required. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen From nobody Tue Feb 20 19:56:56 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfVYH2QWxz55WlX for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TfVYH1rS3z4c0n; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1708459027; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1+PVBZtHtdVol1Cjz1hWtorWSt7eMcpajmi85aG7F1w=; b=QJg39n3Oqh2FicOjKLK02BwAb1cVYkbNxC5bcGBNqr3qd5pXuFgCTpfBPHD+If8tLZ12xf jJ3SQ+q7rbOSoDhDbdFzRUJ6uqZds0cFlOBt8jzyM/ja/nVdceyuv1DYxLquam/G6QvtRW jZ+ycnpxsEZ7CqsxfIzxmM2zYi9RlZW9ffbSkuJiGz2rUTt0ViNVz81jCPtTTqHOO9msxF X8/bwSIPo3zE9c9rQL6RGRGQNPkYhtMnVv2vhM56p9GbaQ2kKipeFuo/m6Xhuhm6CfIdk/ YD8JsY7aUykRVTWtFozeIVft1ol2v3OTWOKUYOTe88/jzkbTYvyzVfHkVWIvJg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1708459027; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1+PVBZtHtdVol1Cjz1hWtorWSt7eMcpajmi85aG7F1w=; b=c7Wv7nD9YJbQIVkfMc0dqhiz6FjGioJpYsH4DmI38kLRHGqMgFlTusMpOhIQ92wSY1l2nw zPTo+lZPfKQYqbeRuMM/Ix3jdNddahGNc+BYBE1Q5L+AoB40ougQSvda/OJkbT0TTE7E3l 6kZF+89mzRdjh9B5JBCq1k79jaGVDNQlSu5HuKyiToZo7qUMJPIgI+WSk/UVI/w1KUvzZ4 REoqcljVTaQt2lFE8M8/UJo13PHph50SthLdH8/JeFY1HD8VKAeIA7Bjdc12poBLrT7xdu afVMtoNuepWBGvE6LQ9Oh2M4QtcJJsHn1E9yOqBfOv04g80wCYNb4K76WgxBNg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1708459027; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YUF6hWmG7dewpZnkccPLXxzmICVrlL/AbdHIwr/Sre6GJEnWLrIb5sL3Waqnb9pKZAl/kC ahfjtJqxDyqq7Cn5613UkOQfLDZ7xsx335LCZ3rw99ds0ye3UEVASS0qs084bkKUiJFDG+ G3QjCivc6x0w5axP/GgUzewW4LdWRwjGpKSR99ukr8o83xO1i8ex863EduZ42SrZDFd9+n W2j4B+S/5tpMwu5L1AHvchOqAwR8gIAbed2COC+41h6GJFoNdtwzYPtMflLAY0kjWAOFnu 4/0A/rnFP8E3nuepDxvZvrHvF8Qhb/tNOm/DBdoJMqzNLj2WK4PjoMgeaOmfXA== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id 0AE0C14751; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:57:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: jonc@chen.org.nz Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installed audio/alsa-plugins and dependencies In-Reply-To: <1b27f0f5d3062493151897d85e562740@chen.org.nz> (jonc@chen.org.nz's message of "Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:17:41 +0000") References: <641ffb1d-1a6a-46bc-81ce-1daba2dec27b@chen.org.nz> <1b27f0f5d3062493151897d85e562740@chen.org.nz> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:56:56 +0100 Message-ID: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain jonc@chen.org.nz writes: >>> It appears to be missing the SUBPACKAGE dependencies. Is this >>> intentional, or a bug? >> >> Intentional. See pkg-message: >> >> Plugins with extra dependencies moved into subpackages: >> - alsa-plugins-ffmpeg >> - alsa-plugins-jack >> - alsa-plugins-pulseaudio >> - alsa-plugins-samplerate >> - alsa-plugins-speex > > In my opinion, that's _not_ correct. When we install any > non-SUBPACKAGE package, anything listed in LIB_DEPENDS or USES are > automatically listed as package dependencies. However, if I install > audio/alsa-plugins, the only way I know what dependencies are required > is to by consulting /usr/ports/audio/alsa-plugins/Makefile. And if > audio/alsa-plugins was to be compiled with non-standard OPTIONS, it's > impossible to tell what dependencies are _actually_ required. Port dependencies are not package dependencies. With subpackages a single port can build multiple packages. As such, runtime dependencies[1] and files are split between multiple packages. However, all build-only dependencies are shared and not recorded in binary packages. When you build from ports you build every subpackage[2], so you need to use options to limit dependencies. If you want to install only "alsa-plugins" (aka "main" subpackage) without extra plugins/dependencies just do it like before with all port options unset. 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By definition LIB_DEPENDS are run time dependencies. > If you want to install only "alsa-plugins" (aka "main" subpackage) withou= t extra plugins/dependencies just do it like before with all port options u= nset. It's not about what people want. These subpackages are included via OPTIONS. In the case that the OPTIONS are set, the alsa-plugins package needs to pull in the subpackages included by the options. Honestly, I don't see any other interpretation. The package manifest is wrong. If they are not intended to be package dependency, then the subpackages should be defined as BUILD_DEPENDS, not LIB_DEPENDS. But the manifest bug remains regardless of the intend of this particular port. On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 1:57=E2=80=AFPM Jan Beich wrot= e: > > jonc@chen.org.nz writes: > > >>> It appears to be missing the SUBPACKAGE dependencies. Is this > >>> intentional, or a bug? > >> > >> Intentional. See pkg-message: > >> > >> Plugins with extra dependencies moved into subpackages: > >> - alsa-plugins-ffmpeg > >> - alsa-plugins-jack > >> - alsa-plugins-pulseaudio > >> - alsa-plugins-samplerate > >> - alsa-plugins-speex > > > > In my opinion, that's _not_ correct. When we install any > > non-SUBPACKAGE package, anything listed in LIB_DEPENDS or USES are > > automatically listed as package dependencies. However, if I install > > audio/alsa-plugins, the only way I know what dependencies are required > > is to by consulting /usr/ports/audio/alsa-plugins/Makefile. And if > > audio/alsa-plugins was to be compiled with non-standard OPTIONS, it's > > impossible to tell what dependencies are _actually_ required. > > Port dependencies are not package dependencies. With subpackages a > single port can build multiple packages. As such, runtime dependencies[1] > and files are split between multiple packages. However, all build-only > dependencies are shared and not recorded in binary packages. 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Let me look at this more in depth. On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 1:57=E2=80=AFPM Jan Beich wrot= e: > > jonc@chen.org.nz writes: > > >>> It appears to be missing the SUBPACKAGE dependencies. Is this > >>> intentional, or a bug? > >> > >> Intentional. See pkg-message: > >> > >> Plugins with extra dependencies moved into subpackages: > >> - alsa-plugins-ffmpeg > >> - alsa-plugins-jack > >> - alsa-plugins-pulseaudio > >> - alsa-plugins-samplerate > >> - alsa-plugins-speex > > > > In my opinion, that's _not_ correct. When we install any > > non-SUBPACKAGE package, anything listed in LIB_DEPENDS or USES are > > automatically listed as package dependencies. However, if I install > > audio/alsa-plugins, the only way I know what dependencies are required > > is to by consulting /usr/ports/audio/alsa-plugins/Makefile. And if > > audio/alsa-plugins was to be compiled with non-standard OPTIONS, it's > > impossible to tell what dependencies are _actually_ required. > > Port dependencies are not package dependencies. With subpackages a > single port can build multiple packages. As such, runtime dependencies[1] > and files are split between multiple packages. However, all build-only > dependencies are shared and not recorded in binary packages. When you > build from ports you build every subpackage[2], so you need to use > options to limit dependencies. > > If you want to install only "alsa-plugins" (aka "main" subpackage) > without extra plugins/dependencies just do it like before with all port > options unset. > > [1] what "make run-depends-list" shows > [2] until https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43789 > From nobody Tue Feb 20 20:24:55 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TfW9k0DXcz59Y1w for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f46.google.com (mail-io1-f46.google.com [209.85.166.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TfW9j1CC4z4h4y; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luca.pizzamiglio@gmail.com; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=freebsd.org (policy=none) Received: by mail-io1-f46.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-7c00128de31so164531339f.3; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:25:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708460711; x=1709065511; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=DMkdyUcso5kYdVNeOYYj3lsDHqJCaIhWv46YND7WqGE=; b=Utg5VDDZIf+9SxCCRk+HnuPrphP2BknstQEp0gPKWXiw60IWi8q4rRMXSz77sywg3/ qArkGHCphfNYK3OxLjfd7S9UJD3Br9Uejedqs7UPGYvF9cDt9vYNIWJc7zw/ZLuipUpa OVLYudGjRNlvvPzkbuMLYtx7TSREvxoi2A28VoMqDOEtx+e2ucUTZtoyg3XZyht7jfpy NhZCAko5lL1cR8rDxJHWqpKKMwCpq1y/CxzPr32fR4vdrYjTKqmUER0F+NUgMruhUz3W 78ydiYfc5TIhB9rAc+6AzkJJXc0lmJR7yKtzGJJYatEXrG0vvJy0G6cE9lyXxAXTv1HC Kz/A== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUwW1dvk2X3dfNxSULl17ff10l/WWqurZ6uxeUm+hx3I0jMIpBmXGtqE+cBc76pNe3vn5KbGXEHNzxESzKLTK24dLOctzRsTPwrjsFL X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwvhvpQNsKND4gIhV+wKovW1bRO2x33AyUnoJI7dd2jKVyK70mJ yrzqN3FxF3kWRCLeW75/j7K8855Rc/at+GcF1jjaUj1yJvtBwaRaKQOXd7/y0qM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHeGhIsQmd1qnWLXpxpwxE0+5Zs1If6E6PNLK/cnbKN0lgTAyPeEzUG9IaaR2a1sqdmw2LMAg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:2766:b0:7c4:9618:5fcb with SMTP id l6-20020a056602276600b007c496185fcbmr20008822ioe.8.1708460711571; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-il1-f174.google.com (mail-il1-f174.google.com. [209.85.166.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b7-20020a5edc07000000b007c45ab3dc34sm2420989iok.29.2024.02.20.12.25.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:25:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-il1-f174.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-365220a2c3dso15852375ab.0; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:25:11 -0800 (PST) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWg6VpV4KQpfa5aq/6Pevala05FyIOK3UYu5SRIS48YMrA90tx7AVI0Ak8yp/gRQvqITB6u11CR57YsUZR1hN9ai6QIfjsBFc/NyeWW X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:592:b0:363:d6be:c87e with SMTP id c18-20020a056e02059200b00363d6bec87emr14359402ils.27.1708460711223; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:25:11 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <42ea295f-5165-4fd5-b452-82d67f53ca03@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <42ea295f-5165-4fd5-b452-82d67f53ca03@app.fastmail.com> From: Luca Pizzamiglio Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:24:55 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Subpackages: Update To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-ports , ports-developers@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ce27d30611d60123" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfW9j1CC4z4h4y X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.79 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.889]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[pizzamig@freebsd.org,lucapizzamiglio@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.166.46:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[pizzamig@freebsd.org,lucapizzamiglio@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.166.174:received,209.85.166.46:from]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3] --000000000000ce27d30611d60123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dan. The list of subpackages is available via `make -V SUBPACKAGES` Probably, the dependencies should also be split by subpackages, when this is the case. `make -V *_DEPENDS.subpkgname` provides the dependencies I can write directly in the github issue some of those things, for referenc= e Best regards, pizzamig On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:22=E2=80=AFPM Dan Langille wro= te: > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > > Hi FreeBSD porters. > > Here are some updates about subpackages. > > At the moment, subpackages adoption is *on hold*, as a few annoying > issues have been identified and they need some time to be fixed. > A bug about optional dependencies for subpackages has already been fixed > > (OPT_*_DEPENDS.subpkg was not detected correctly) > > The main blockers are: > * `make describe` is not subpackages aware. A fix is in review, but not > yet ready to land. This is also breaking INDEX. > * `make install` doesn't allow for partial installation. A patch is ready > and in review (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43789) to address it (in > reference to previous email threads) > * poudriere forces the rebuild of subpackages dependency. A PR is open an= d > we hope to find a solution soon. > Additionally, `USES.subpkg` doesn't work properly at the moment: > dependencies (LIB and RUN) are linked to the main package, instead of the > subpackage. > > Because of those issues, some subpackage commits have also been *reverted= *, > waiting for the fixes to land, before being committed back. > > If you are thinking of adopting subpackages, *please wait* until things > get fixed. > Once those fixes are out and the situation gets more stable, we will focu= s > on the *documentation*. > > > I'm thinking about this from a FreshPorts point of view. With respect to > subpackages, what will people want to see on the page for a given port? > > * list subpackages for this port? how do I get a list of subpackages for = a > port? make -V SUBPACKAGES ? > * list of packages built by this port (I'm guessing packages.yaml will > point back to the port) > * is there any other information thought to be relevant to have on the > page? > > re: https://github.com/FreshPorts/freshports/issues/544 > -- > Dan Langille > dan@langille.org > > > > --000000000000ce27d30611d60123 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dan.

The list of subpacka= ges is available via `make -V SUBPACKAGES`
Probably, the dependen= cies should also be split by subpackages, when this is the case. `make -V *= _DEPENDS.subpkgname` provides the dependencies

I c= an write directly in the github issue some of those things, for reference

Best regards,
pizzamig

=

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:22=E2=80=AFPM Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 8, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote= :
Hi FreeBSD porters.

Here are so= me updates about subpackages.

At the moment, s= ubpackages adoption is on hold, as a few annoying issues have been i= dentified and they need some time to be fixed.
A bug about op= tional dependencies for subpackages has already been fixed (OPT_*_DEPENDS.subpkg was not detected correc= tly)

The main blockers are:
* `m= ake describe` is not subpackages aware. A fix is in review, but not yet rea= dy to land. This is also breaking INDEX.
* `make install` doe= sn't allow for partial installation. A patch is ready and in review (https://revi= ews.freebsd.org/D43789) to address it (in reference to previous email t= hreads)
* poudriere forces the rebuild of subpackages depende= ncy. A PR is open and we hope to find a solution soon.
Additi= onally, `USES.subpkg` doesn't work properly at the moment: dependencies= (LIB and RUN) are linked to the main package, instead of the subpackage.

Because of those issues, some subpackage commit= s have also been reverted, waiting for the fixes to land, before bei= ng committed back.

If you are thinking of adop= ting subpackages, please wait until things get fixed.
= Once those fixes are out and the situation gets more stable, we will focus = on the documentation.

I'm thinking about this = from a FreshPorts point of view. With respect to subpackages, what will peo= ple want to see on the page for a given port?

= * list subpackages for this port? how do I get a list of subpackages for a = port? make -V SUBPACKAGES ?
* list of packages built by this = port (I'm guessing packages.yaml will point back to the port)
=
* is there any other information thought to be relevant to have on the= page?

--
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[209.85.166.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q10-20020a02c8ca000000b00474284a0228sm1279543jao.61.2024.02.20.12.27.15 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-il1-f169.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-3652731b2b7so10350115ab.2 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:27:15 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a92:d251:0:b0:365:1f72:d79 with SMTP id v17-20020a92d251000000b003651f720d79mr9400668ilg.29.1708460835528; Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:27:15 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Luca Pizzamiglio Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:26:59 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Subpackages: Update To: Tatsuki Makino Cc: FreeBSD Ports mailing list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036e6490611d60932" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TfWD50YHYz4hcn X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.56 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.66)[-0.661]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[pizzamig@freebsd.org,lucapizzamiglio@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[pizzamig@freebsd.org,lucapizzamiglio@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.166.46:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.166.46:from,209.85.166.169:received] --00000000000036e6490611d60932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The aforementioned `make describe` issues affect the `pkg version` issue you highlighted. On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 12:09=E2=80=AFAM Tatsuki Makino wrote: > Hello. > I am delayed in many things on my end, so I don't have time for this kind > of thing :) > But... > > I think the following conversions need to be modified to work correctly. > > PKGNAME -> port origin -> PKGNAME > > For example, > > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio -> audio/alsa-plugins -> alsa-plugins-... > > Currently, the pkg version results include the following > > > pkg -v > 1.20.9 > > pkg version -v -L =3D > alsa-plugins-jack-1.2.7.1_3 ? orphaned: audio/alsa-plugins > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.2.7.1_3 ? orphaned: audio/alsa-plugins > alsa-plugins-samplerate-1.2.7.1_3 ? orphaned: audio/alsa-plugins > > I have a feeling there is a problem with pkg as well, but I haven't > followed up on that yet :) > Is anyone doing it? :) > > Regards. > > > --00000000000036e6490611d60932 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The aforementioned `make describe` issues affect the `pkg = version` issue you highlighted.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 12:09=E2=80=AFAM= Tatsuki Makino <tatsuki_m= akino@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
I am delayed in many things on my end, so I don't have time for this ki= nd of thing :)
But...

I think the following conversions need to be modified to work correctly.
PKGNAME -> port origin -> PKGNAME

For example,

alsa-plugins-pulseaudio -> audio/alsa-plugins -> alsa-plugins-...

Currently, the pkg version results include the following

> pkg -v
1.20.9
> pkg version -v -L =3D
alsa-plugins-jack-1.2.7.1_3=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ?=C2=A0 =C2=A0orphan= ed: audio/alsa-plugins
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.2.7.1_3=C2=A0 ?=C2=A0 =C2=A0orphaned: audio/alsa-= plugins
alsa-plugins-samplerate-1.2.7.1_3=C2=A0 ?=C2=A0 =C2=A0orphaned: audio/alsa-= plugins

I have a feeling there is a problem with pkg as well, but I haven't fol= lowed up on that yet :)
Is anyone doing it? :)

Regards.


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Luca Pizzamiglio wrote on 2024/02/21 05:26: > The aforementioned `make describe` issues affect the `pkg version` issue > you highlighted. Yes, perhaps there is a mistake in INDEX-*, and pkg version -P will not cause the problem (Unconfirmed as I am still in a INDEX-12 environment :) ). Regards. 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I have yet to read the instructions by pizzamig@freebsd presented by arrowd@freebsd... :) ( https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports/2024-February/005321.html ) John Marino (FreeBSD) wrote on 2024/02/21 00:18: > The port builds fine. Yes, however, it seems that all subpackage options must be turned on, so the options must be changed. This applies to people who do not need something like alsa-plugins-ffmpeg. > The problem is that the dependencies are not listed in the package manifest. > This is a bug in the code that creates the package manifest. I thought so too, but I don't see the problem there. The packages is also built correctly. It is normal that only alsa-plugins is installed when alsa-plugins is installed. This is because alsa-plugins-jack is a dynamic plugin feature that can be used simply by installing files. > That's why both Synth and Poudriere are considering the packages using > subpackages to be invalid. They are examining the package manifest > and seeing that it doesn't match up with the port Makefile, so it gets > deleted as invalid, and the now-missing package causes everything > dependent on it to rebuild. > > Fix the manifest and the problems will go away. So it seems to me that poudriere, synth and such like would need code to check for the existence of SUBPACKAGES and check the dependencies for each package. I'm not sure about that. Regards. 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From nobody Thu Feb 22 08:39:50 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TgRR564zkz5CBh4 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from einar@isnic.is) Received: from mx01.isnic.is (mx01.isnic.is [193.4.58.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx01.isnic.is", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TgRR4478qz4VcV; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from einar@isnic.is) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=isnic.is header.s=20200921 header.b=X9RxLwzg; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of einar@isnic.is designates 193.4.58.133 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=einar@isnic.is; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=isnic.is Received: from ht-mailstore01.isnic.is (ht-mailstore01.isnic.is [IPv6:2001:67c:6c:56::2]) by mx01.isnic.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA3AF214F1; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:39:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isnic.is; s=20200921; t=1708591191; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PGjhMdb0jvikomPwCJrSvdvNVNj5c8geyxyyv4aDk8E=; b=X9RxLwzgZ2SabQ8tuEv8mdHvwEd2lHR2OtoE5AMX/KyFXhn3W5fDYzGwbcK/7EGXHxnGNw LFUIVaYx8CBR8/Z6VZZS4j4n9yEfW9OMyxWoazLZWdpHGWkBPAO1qBTokjmCFjrmrUcP7F OVXWItUmTQnNHf9lPb5a6Vw6ld+KQkdt/KDZAjrIJ+iX9AJyQSwB6oI0mmHTT1l986Rq3M cvefZTGOXvRnG9dzNGUxBsCXovfeIzHPWpNgAaQj61mSC6ax4PqsBHESwCw+1dhopFZ/Ph XZSbwpNAnknIeJgbftfK6tHTvh66dq8UsC6R62NbooZSmcn3FjjIbvwHG+F1/w== Received: from [IPV6:2001:67c:6c:f100::195] (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:6c:f100::195]) by ht-mailstore01.isnic.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE6F320FEE; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <16c2bf5c-9022-4ce9-9283-838f99d80ba3@isnic.is> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:39:50 +0000 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Multiple new R ports From: =?UTF-8?Q?Einar_Bjarni_Halld=C3=B3rsson?= To: Gleb Popov Cc: ports@freebsd.org References: <44F61FC1-532F-447F-80E9-83ED37599CD7@isnic.is> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TgRR4478qz4VcV X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[isnic.is,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[isnic.is:s=20200921]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.4.58.0/23]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1850, ipnet:193.4.58.0/23, country:IS]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[isnic.is:+] Hi, Could a committer take a look at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43735 for me? Adds 3 R modules, with dependencies, 13 new ports in total. Builds in poudriere and used in production. .einar On 2/4/24 13:34, Einar Bjarni Halldórsson wrote: >> On 3 Feb 2024, at 18:56, Gleb Popov wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 6:31 PM Einar Bjarni Halldórsson wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I needed to create three new R ports, but with new ports for missing dependencies, it’s 13 new ports in total, all R packages. >>> >>> Should I create one PR for them all, or one for each package with blockers for dependencies? >>> >>> einar >> Single PR should be fine. You may also consider creating a >> Differential revision on our Phabricator. >> > Thanks. I created a revision in Phabricator for all the ports. We’ll see how it goes. 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My curiosity is what do you think about the importance (or not) to have testunit feature working on R ports? I maintain a couple R ports and testunit revealed some errors that upstream fixed. Maybe this testunit subject could be apply to all ports that have that feat= ure. Thanks, Einar Bjarni Halld=C3=B3rsson escreveu (quinta, 22/02/2024 =C3=A0(s) 08:40): > > Hi, > > Could a committer take a look at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43735 for m= e? > Adds 3 R modules, with dependencies, 13 new ports in total. > > Builds in poudriere and used in production. > > einar > > On 2/4/24 13:34, Einar Bjarni Halld=C3=B3rsson wrote: > >> On 3 Feb 2024, at 18:56, Gleb Popov wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 6:31=E2=80=AFPM Einar Bjarni Halld=C3=B3rsson <= einar@isnic.is> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I needed to create three new R ports, but with new ports for missing = dependencies, it=E2=80=99s 13 new ports in total, all R packages. > >>> > >>> Should I create one PR for them all, or one for each package with blo= ckers for dependencies? > >>> > >>> einar > >> Single PR should be fine. You may also consider creating a > >> Differential revision on our Phabricator. > >> > > Thanks. I created a revision in Phabricator for all the ports. We=E2=80= =99ll see how it goes. If needed, I can chop it up into multiple revisions. > > > > .einar > > > > --=20 Nuno Teixeira FreeBSD Committer (ports) From nobody Fri Feb 23 02:51:10 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TgvfN5r6jz5BVhM for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agh@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TgvfM3y18z4bqK for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agh@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=GMkxNCuV; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of agh@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=agh@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews02-sea.riseup.net (fews02-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.112]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TgvfL1LG2zDqR5 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:51:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1708656682; bh=vZfcjbhlDsHNzhivbIQ7ovK4xbD+/J1AAClqJMl3Tto=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=GMkxNCuV0qfab3TwdyRZ2i0gXCsIsfRe3IVzVs4fNYQ7btVh9t9fUKgxLpCS8mCze IlU0gwKbLWKEFJxizkTRWkf12+3966C4avK1vUZxkKOUmx/4S9stXJdJYdYf3lBuOx 6c++ubEbGBJYv7iBFgHuWQ2VZkDaCbPsUL+LB61o= X-Riseup-User-ID: 63A2D1709115015026FA372241844CFE52E41EB728EECC98972B8EF2336C4A6E Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews02-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Tgvf704X0zFvx4 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:51:10 +0000 (UTC) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:51:10 +0000 From: Alastair Hogge To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: emulators/mame: Increasing option granularity woes Message-ID: <0f7f4f5675d1e75e504ad67d963e8874@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TgvfM3y18z4bqK X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.20 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx1.riseup.net]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] Hello, The current in-tree port of mame, 0.261, is built around the core multi-emulation framework, which results in the usual mega monolithic mame binary. There are options for TOOLS, which include two other emulators. The current upstream release, 0.262 has enabled separation of mame from the rest of the project—TOOLS can now be built separately. I would like to reflect this in the Port, however, that means moving the two added emulators (LaserDisk player, and Netlist resolver) out of TOOLS (which I think the correct path to take). Considering the new upstream build pattern, I would like to configure the Port to option any of the emulators, and existing TOOLS. The problem I am facing, the three emulators require the same (or close to it) runtime config/resources, the assets are currently covered by the do-install target[1], how do I cover the assets in the Port, specifically in the pkg-plist to be conditioned on either of 3 potential emulator options? Should I add an option MAMEDATA? But then that moves the problem to the user, why should the user make a choice to install the runtime data, if they select any emulator, the Port should automate that? How can I avoid fixing the data to only one emulator option? In summary, the current Port is structured as a monolith with optional tools (including two other emulators fixed to the bulk MAME build), enabling a Qt debugger for the emulators, enabling platform optimisation, and object production type. What I am attempting, which is not proving successful, a minimal port (which is a single project man page, tho would be nicer to have at a minimum TOOLS or at least one emulator), adding new options for the current 3 build-able emulators, separate TOOLS from the emulators, and a way to install the data if any emulator is selected, the last element being the most difficult. 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There are options for TOOLS, which include two other > emulators. The current upstream release, 0.262 has enabled separation of > mame from the rest of the project=E2=80=94TOOLS can now be built separate= ly. I > would like to reflect this in the Port, however, that means moving the > two added emulators (LaserDisk player, and Netlist resolver) out of > TOOLS (which I think the correct path to take). Considering the new > upstream build pattern, I would like to configure the Port to option any > of the emulators, and existing TOOLS. The problem I am facing, the three > emulators require the same (or close to it) runtime config/resources, > the assets are currently covered by the do-install target[1], how do I > cover the assets in the Port, specifically in the pkg-plist to be > conditioned on either of 3 potential emulator options? Should I add an > option MAMEDATA? You're almost right. Indeed there is no need in the user-visible option, but you want all other machinery to kick in. Basically, it boils down to .if somecond PLIST_SUB+=3D MAMEDATA=3D .else PLIST_SUB+=3D MAMEDATA=3D"@comment " .endif where "somecond" defines if the files should be present in the package. For OPTIONS (and when OPTIONS_SUB=3Dyes is present [1]) it happens automatically. If you end up with "somecond" being in form "${PORT_OPTIONS:MFOO} || ${PORT_OPTIONS:MBAR}" then you could simplify it even more FOO_PLIST_SUB=3D MAMEDATA=3D FOO_PLIST_SUB_OFF=3D MAMEDATA=3D"@comment " BAR_PLIST_SUB=3D MAMEDATA=3D BAR_PLIST_SUB_OFF=3D MAMEDATA=3D"@comment " [1] https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/makefiles/#options_s= ub From nobody Fri Feb 23 08:58:29 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Th3p80bFXz5C4Xp for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 08:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tatsuki_makino@hotmail.com) Received: from APC01-PSA-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-psaapc01olkn2102.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.52.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "DigiCert Cloud Services CA-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Th3p65dXtz4Gqv for ; 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It's been a month since the initial call was made. Despite the fact that the separate branch approach didn't really work out, the process of moving manpages to share/man is still ongoing. I'd like to thank everyone who sent me PRs and plain patches - they were all integrated into the main branch and all were helpful for our cause. Still, there is a lot more to process, so I'm making another call for help, hopefully more concrete this time. moin@ created a list of problematic ports [1] along with MAINTAINER field, so you can quickly find if any of your ports need fixing. In this list "failed" ports are confirmed to be broken if we change the default mandir prefix in the framework. The "skipped" ports may probably be dependent on the "failed" ones, so it is better to deal with "failed" first. We have an established ways to fix Autotools and CMake-based ports: - Autotools ports are generally identified by the presence of GNU_CONFIGURE=3Dyes knob. To fix such a port one should add GNU_CONFIGURE_MANPREFIX=3D${PREFIX}/share knob and fix pkg-plist. - CMake already defaults to a correct mandir location, so CMake ports usually have some patching that replaces share/man with man. To fix such ports it is sufficient to remove that patching and then again fix the plist. We don't yet care of Meson ports (although it also should be as simple as the Autotools case). Feel free to skip them for now. Finally, there are ports with homegrown ad-hoc build systems. There is no general way to fix them. When making a mandir-converting change remember to put "Approved by: portmgr (blanket)" tag into the commit message. This also means that if you're fixing someone else's port, you don't need to wait for a maintainer timeout (although it might be still a good idea to wait for the feedback if the port in question is complex or the change itself is big). Thanks in advance to everyone who will help us in this quest. 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Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:47:53 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-153-g7e3bb84806-fm-20240215.007-g7e3bb848 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <7a03f16a-6996-4a0c-ba61-526e5a335812@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <42ea295f-5165-4fd5-b452-82d67f53ca03@app.fastmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 09:47:31 -0500 From: "Dan Langille" To: "Luca Pizzamiglio" Cc: freebsd-ports , ports-developers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Subpackages: Update Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=fb913873893046ee88c74fa43da8e6dd X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.970]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[langille.org:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.168.172.128/27]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[103.168.172.151:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dan]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209242, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[langille.org:+,messagingengine.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThCY64F7Fz49Vw --fb913873893046ee88c74fa43da8e6dd Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, Feb 20, 2024, at 3:24 PM, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi Dan. > > The list of subpackages is available via `make -V SUBPACKAGES` > Probably, the dependencies should also be split by subpackages, when this is the case. `make -V *_DEPENDS.subpkgname` provides the dependencies > > I can write directly in the github issue some of those things, for reference > > Best regards, > pizzamig Thank you. >From what I can tell, this won't break anything on FreshPorts - rather, subpackages seem to be additional information. It also seems like FreshPorts could be easily amended to include that information. i.e. what subpackages exist for this port? What DEPENDS exist for each subpackage? Anything which can be extracted by `make -V` is easy for FreshPorts. The parsing of packagesite.yaml by FreshPorts would not be affected - the subpackages will still point back to the origin (e.g. foo/bar): the subpacakges will just magically appear on the right FreshPorts page. Cheers -- Dan Langille dan@langille.org --fb913873893046ee88c74fa43da8e6dd Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Feb 20,= 2024, at 3:24 PM, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
Hi Dan.
<= br>
The list of subpackages is available via `make -V SUBPACKA= GES`
Probably, the dependencies should also be split by su= bpackages, when this is the case. `make -V *_DEPENDS.subpkgname` provide= s the dependencies

I can write directly in = the github issue some of those things, for reference

<= /div>
Best regards,
pizzamig

Thank you.

From what= I can tell, this won't break anything on FreshPorts - rather, subpackag= es seem to be additional information. It also seems like FreshPorts coul= d be easily amended to include that information. i.e. what subpackages e= xist for this port? What DEPENDS exist for each subpackage? Anything whi= ch can be extracted by `make -V` is easy for FreshPorts.
<= br>
The parsing of packagesite.yaml by FreshPorts would n= ot be affected - the subpackages will still point back to the origin (e.= g. foo/bar): the subpacakges will just magically appear on the right Fre= shPorts page.

Cheers

--
  Dan Langille
 = dan@langille.org


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Or Uses/ksh.mk to select a default ksh for ports? The reason I ask is, shells/ksh has its lineage from the original AT&T ksh (shells/ksh93) and is being actively developed (see shells/ksh-devel). shells/ksh upstream is also the ksh imported into and used by CDE (x11/cde*). My position is, I'd prefer a Uses/ksh.mk. If people are interested, I'm willing to put this task on my todo list. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0 From nobody Fri Feb 23 16:16:20 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThFW91Mw4z5B29q for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigo@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.osorio.me (mvd.osorio.me [5.196.94.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThFW84fKQz4Sd1 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodrigo@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=freebsd.org (policy=none); spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 5.196.94.126 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rodrigo@FreeBSD.org) smtp.mailfrom=rodrigo@FreeBSD.org Received: from [192.168.75.199] (ns3309494.ip-5-135-160.eu [5.135.160.30]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.osorio.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 951B42162E3 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------lh4By0xll04pT2Ymhmvkc283" Message-ID: <787339cd-48e4-49bf-b96e-77aab06cedd8@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:16:20 +0100 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: Rodrigo Osorio Subject: Re: KSH Alignment To: ports@freebsd.org References: <20240223155440.16B282FF@slippy.cwsent.com> Content-Language: en-US, fr, es-AR Reply-To: rodrigo@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20240223155440.16B282FF@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.81 / 15.00]; VIOLATED_DIRECT_SPF(3.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.899]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.26)[-0.256]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.25)[0.254]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[rodrigo]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:5.196.0.0/16, country:FR]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[rodrigo@FreeBSD.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThFW84fKQz4Sd1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------lh4By0xll04pT2Ymhmvkc283 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23/02/24 16:54, Cy Schubert wrote: > Hi, > > Would there be any interest in either replacing shells/pdksh with > shells/ksh as our default ksh dependency? Or Uses/ksh.mk to select a > default ksh for ports? > > The reason I ask is, shells/ksh has its lineage from the original AT&T ksh > (shells/ksh93) and is being actively developed (see shells/ksh-devel). > shells/ksh upstream is also the ksh imported into and used by CDE > (x11/cde*). > > My position is, I'd prefer a Uses/ksh.mk. If people are interested, I'm > willing to put this task on my todo list. > > Hi, As long as there is no compatibilities issues, having a well maintained ksh version makes a lot of sense. pdksh wasn't update for ages and afaik, has no active developer. As the shells/pdksh maintainer you have my blessing. Cheers -- rodrigo --------------lh4By0xll04pT2Ymhmvkc283 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 23/02/24 16:54, Cy Schubert wrote:
Hi,

Would there be any interest in either replacing shells/pdksh with 
shells/ksh as our default ksh dependency? Or Uses/ksh.mk to select a 
default ksh for ports?

The reason I ask is, shells/ksh has its lineage from the original AT&T ksh 
(shells/ksh93) and is being actively developed (see shells/ksh-devel). 
shells/ksh upstream is also the ksh imported into and used by CDE 
(x11/cde*).

My position is, I'd prefer a Uses/ksh.mk. If people are interested, I'm 
willing to put this task on my todo list.

Hi,
As long as there is no compatibilities issues, having a well
maintained ksh version makes a lot of sense.
pdksh wasn't update for ages and afaik, has no active developer.

As the shells/pdksh maintainer you have my blessing.

Cheers -- rodrigo

--------------lh4By0xll04pT2Ymhmvkc283-- From nobody Fri Feb 23 16:30:08 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThFq804qcz5B3sH for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThFq71rThz4V2l for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com has no SPF policy when checking 3.97.99.32) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com Received: from shw-obgw-4002a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.250]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id dUrCrwr6SxDxGdYR8rGWTH; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:30:10 +0000 Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.66.152.170]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id dYR6rEC3x9Cr4dYR8rjREj; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:30:10 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=etl8zZpX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=65d8c812 a=y8EK/9tc/U6QY+pUhnbtgQ==:117 a=y8EK/9tc/U6QY+pUhnbtgQ==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=k7vzHIieQBIA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=iOHTs0RU8x81apRhkokA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E2110A0 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 08:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by slippy.cwsent.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF7DF3F2; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 08:30:08 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.8+dev Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KSH Alignment In-reply-to: <787339cd-48e4-49bf-b96e-77aab06cedd8@FreeBSD.org> References: <20240223155440.16B282FF@slippy.cwsent.com> <787339cd-48e4-49bf-b96e-77aab06cedd8@FreeBSD.org> Comments: In-reply-to Rodrigo Osorio message dated "Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:16:20 +0100." List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 08:30:08 -0800 Message-Id: <20240223163008.AF7DF3F2@slippy.cwsent.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfMGXprCEBjllvkxK3ui+ve7cjiWUfrvdWH1WMCo51rT/jBQJbud5wwRWnF1MzwWlV6XorggF6nX8+sxmnad4WvTzEAMCWKuLJwhZIzLr5k2p+NrGWdmk VNIEi0FgWYX69N+RnLWxxzUzFd2ijsbMx/SxGkj11RqwkpRYn1JjIMEAWE4WNhU3JLgmShGRUxg/WQuihz2b/f/ZIoxe0T4yfZA= X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.911]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[3.97.99.32:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cschubert.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:3.96.0.0/15, country:US]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[3.97.99.32:from]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThFq71rThz4V2l In message <787339cd-48e4-49bf-b96e-77aab06cedd8@FreeBSD.org>, Rodrigo Osorio w rites: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > On 23/02/24 16:54, Cy Schubert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Would there be any interest in either replacing shells/pdksh with > > shells/ksh as our default ksh dependency? Or Uses/ksh.mk to select a > > default ksh for ports? > > > > The reason I ask is, shells/ksh has its lineage from the original AT&T ksh > > (shells/ksh93) and is being actively developed (see shells/ksh-devel). > > shells/ksh upstream is also the ksh imported into and used by CDE > > (x11/cde*). > > > > My position is, I'd prefer a Uses/ksh.mk. If people are interested, I'm > > willing to put this task on my todo list. > > > > > Hi, > As long as there is no compatibilities issues, having a well > maintained ksh version makes a lot of sense. > pdksh wasn't update for ages and afaik, has no active developer. > > As the shells/pdksh maintainer you have my blessing. I'll put together a phabricator review over the next while to add Mk/Uses/ksh.mk. We'll probably need an exp-run too. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0 From nobody Sat Feb 24 00:25:54 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThSNR43sLz5BZnL for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThSNP6r2hz4RpM; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 00:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 41O0PtmE048371; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:25:54 -0800 From: Chris To: Gleb Popov Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Call for help: moving manpages to share/man In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <9b0f5fcd93ac2a20c49ea77d408b77e9@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: portmaster@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThSNP6r2hz4RpM On 2024-02-23 02:29, Gleb Popov wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 1:19 PM Gleb Popov wrote: >> >> Ahoy there fellow porters! >> >> portmgr@ is currently working on switching the directory into which >> man pages are installed from "${PREFIX}/man" to "${PREFIX}/share/man". >> It is quite a tedious process, as you might imagine. >> ... > > It's been a month since the initial call was made. Despite the fact > that the separate branch approach didn't really work out, the process > of moving manpages to share/man is still ongoing. I'd like to thank > everyone who sent me PRs and plain patches - they were all integrated > into the main branch and all were helpful for our cause. > > Still, there is a lot more to process, so I'm making another call for > help, hopefully more concrete this time. > moin@ created a list of problematic ports [1] along with MAINTAINER > field, so you can quickly find if any of your ports need fixing. In > this list "failed" ports are confirmed to be broken if we change the > default mandir prefix in the framework. The "skipped" ports may > probably be dependent on the "failed" ones, so it is better to deal > with "failed" first. Thank you for all your hard work so far! In an effort to eliminate duplicate work. I'd like to announce my intention to tackle all of x11. I'd also like to mention pr(1) 276759 addresses the the one port of mine that's in the list. Thanks again! --Chris > > We have an established ways to fix Autotools and CMake-based ports: > - Autotools ports are generally identified by the presence of > GNU_CONFIGURE=yes knob. To fix such a port one should add > GNU_CONFIGURE_MANPREFIX=${PREFIX}/share knob and fix pkg-plist. > - CMake already defaults to a correct mandir location, so CMake ports > usually have some patching that replaces share/man with man. To fix > such ports it is sufficient to remove that patching and then again fix > the plist. > > We don't yet care of Meson ports (although it also should be as simple > as the Autotools case). Feel free to skip them for now. > > Finally, there are ports with homegrown ad-hoc build systems. There is > no general way to fix them. > > When making a mandir-converting change remember to put "Approved by: > portmgr (blanket)" tag into the commit message. This also means that > if you're fixing someone else's port, you don't need to wait for a > maintainer timeout (although it might be still a good idea to wait for > the feedback if the port in question is complex or the change itself > is big). > > Thanks in advance to everyone who will help us in this quest. > > [1] https://people.freebsd.org/~bofh/dropzone/manprefix-fail.maintainer.txt From nobody Sat Feb 24 04:19:44 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThYYr66mVz5Bx6C for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThYYr3bJPz4nnX for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1708748384; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Sqt2DXASXuv0gtCrfykHcMLY1uBbQDD67IKD9FUwaYyFb5/FhTdhcjEyul1csy1/lYhx0Y 1MmvVbAx4r/u+Bm7po6iA9p6umwGMfbdXXl0BjVPT4LvSUE5GlhqTpIZn4u/RShH1EqZuH lBn1rnTTbsNGx7tmY1jR7uyxUaKEkWLpq6O2CvwM5r/5hONWdhloB/tFq/PFyHc7HtP+6X ZoA+bxZDQPtzpjJkvlF7a3/oHDmsWHwYWjCbNg6tqk1mcdMMNeSRir5VSFOIRQEEauuuAF tTtupom2EOi003jzuCyGAFbwoUMbc8p6zz8hxMtiuo5ulW0WSiWtCd784X8nhg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1708748384; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6wcHPUK92bGJkeaRjIL4W8Wrof3/hQBzqj6T2cUGaTc=; b=C5LVGWu4vqoqWeWkdBjjQlkkDvnZF0vWKvyMucxA0AJEbKI7uOWFzvvozhrLkaZzGZp6hH loT/ts5C3j+T109E4E7Y54vmFQQGOomCNyzo/Vb6lBGyxqzY2b/f8mL4vMZv+qUuLeYJsf Sa7CsO5XhtA2TRCSlvmief5ZYEZsn9j5Nv6P7AT3qLIZNNnVdM9mUAIlaEelIk6NdRc2Ql 2BYuG1TpPNOY7qjwu4J1wFFTCg2goA57GnPRrDorKHQILAj5qSp1PKDB91hj5U1u2dFWgt SPUHkv+3FIvVB7NMhoI6CsHS3kIWc3m3QkNXKgvRmuyj/aGvRmI9PceHimHr7A== Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (portscout.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThYYr2GVkzlhY for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portscout.nyi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.10]) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTP id 41O4JiLI019851 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:19:44 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from portscout@localhost) by portscout.nyi.freebsd.org (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 41O4JiwO019850; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:19:44 GMT (envelope-from portscout@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202402240419.41O4JiwO019850@portscout.nyi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: portscout.nyi.freebsd.org: portscout set sender to portscout@FreeBSD.org using -f Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:19:44 +0000 From: portscout@FreeBSD.org To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Unmaintained FreeBSD ports which are out of date X-Mailer: portscout/0.8.1 Dear port maintainers, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more unmaintained ports appears to be out of date. 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From nobody Sat Feb 24 04:50:12 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThZF950LZz5C0HP for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThZF91vYBz4t31 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 41O4oCPk060937; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:50:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0800 From: Chris To: Cy Schubert Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KSH Alignment In-Reply-To: <20240223163008.AF7DF3F2@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <20240223155440.16B282FF@slippy.cwsent.com> <787339cd-48e4-49bf-b96e-77aab06cedd8@FreeBSD.org> <20240223163008.AF7DF3F2@slippy.cwsent.com> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <724b65591c40de011b503069ea13da24@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: portmaster@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThZF91vYBz4t31 On 2024-02-23 08:30, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <787339cd-48e4-49bf-b96e-77aab06cedd8@FreeBSD.org>, Rodrigo > Osorio w > rites: >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> >> On 23/02/24 16:54, Cy Schubert wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Would there be any interest in either replacing shells/pdksh with >> > shells/ksh as our default ksh dependency? Or Uses/ksh.mk to select a >> > default ksh for ports? >> > >> > The reason I ask is, shells/ksh has its lineage from the original AT&T ksh >> > (shells/ksh93) and is being actively developed (see shells/ksh-devel). >> > shells/ksh upstream is also the ksh imported into and used by CDE >> > (x11/cde*). >> > >> > My position is, I'd prefer a Uses/ksh.mk. If people are interested, I'm >> > willing to put this task on my todo list. >> > >> > >> Hi, >> As long as there is no compatibilities issues, having a well >> maintained ksh version makes a lot of sense. >> pdksh wasn't update for ages and afaik, has no active developer. >> >> As the shells/pdksh maintainer you have my blessing. > > I'll put together a phabricator review over the next while to add > Mk/Uses/ksh.mk. We'll probably need an exp-run too. Looking forward to it. Thanks for volunteering to do this. --Chris From nobody Sat Feb 24 06:24:57 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThcLj6L6Rz5C7Wr for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from einar@isnic.is) Received: from mx01.isnic.is (mx01.isnic.is [193.4.58.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx01.isnic.is", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThcLh5zV2z43kG; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from einar@isnic.is) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=isnic.is header.s=20200921 header.b=Zdu6R5d7; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=isnic.is; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of einar@isnic.is designates 193.4.58.133 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=einar@isnic.is Received: from ht-mailstore01.isnic.is (ht-mailstore01.isnic.is [185.93.156.2]) by mx01.isnic.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEFE424B62; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:25:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isnic.is; s=20200921; t=1708755908; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=hVvg9Ap9VbBiGUaPTu0yXGXbBpFga2sXkUWfY3mO15w=; b=Zdu6R5d7/QYMHq3VayuPU1oy4TnInMPSn2SyspFlRSBuJfNs9v8rLi5KpoU2Ix53wlaq/3 3xvcxrIfHcan7p3CXoC8lFwgm6Ifb3cBj3eYTds8Nv+eaY55e5NX6jb+nMzgyqRHYCxU7/ xdn2iaxK0e2tbBXvbsnop0QNbiQ9mws8HTYXOdXoJ+ugn7+44i0TALJTZ/6ec7R/r/EDva gRGlTW1saxQqqbjpimnQ9Qa43cycuxd7F7ww3CXuoqRfDC6GuuFUoswfhSGiDt27ARJuVf OE3xwkGeF0HgXVLVlI4O4u1QLif09eFPaIjkplTCZ7dT5rByUzdBc8Y+7tdGGw== Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [185.93.159.194]) by ht-mailstore01.isnic.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9AA423387; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: Multiple new R ports From: =?utf-8?Q?Einar_Bjarni_Halld=C3=B3rsson?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 06:24:57 +0000 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2E6761A6-F462-4B83-94AC-9658583A581D@isnic.is> References: <44F61FC1-532F-447F-80E9-83ED37599CD7@isnic.is> <16c2bf5c-9022-4ce9-9283-838f99d80ba3@isnic.is> To: Nuno Teixeira X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[isnic.is,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.4.58.0/23]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[isnic.is:s=20200921]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1850, ipnet:193.4.58.0/23, country:IS]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[isnic.is:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThcLh5zV2z43kG Hi Nuno, > On 22 Feb 2024, at 11:43, Nuno Teixeira wrote: >=20 > I did take a look at review and noticed that TEST_DEPENDS are not used > and that could means that test target works without any depends or > ports are not tested at all. > My curiosity is what do you think about the importance (or not) to > have testunit feature working on R ports? >=20 > I maintain a couple R ports and testunit revealed some errors that > upstream fixed. > Maybe this testunit subject could be apply to all ports that have that = feature. >=20 Thanks for the info. I=E2=80=99m going through the ports and making sure = test targets can be run. I=E2=80=99ll update the diff when I=E2=80=99m done. .einar From nobody Sat Feb 24 09:32:00 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThhVW4Qkkz5CQnq for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 09:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from einar@isnic.is) Received: from mx01.isnic.is (mx01.isnic.is [193.4.58.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx01.isnic.is", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThhVV60WQz4Vnh; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 09:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from einar@isnic.is) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=isnic.is header.s=20200921 header.b=eYjLKXk0; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=isnic.is; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of einar@isnic.is designates 193.4.58.133 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=einar@isnic.is Received: from ht-mailstore01.isnic.is (ht-mailstore01.isnic.is [IPv6:2001:67c:6c:56::2]) by mx01.isnic.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFB8C24ECE; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 09:32:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=isnic.is; s=20200921; t=1708767131; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=qQkvjNsbasxdB7bq/oXrGkdM+Cq0tZAGPCSrAxscd4E=; b=eYjLKXk0IxCR0H9jq5mWeugnAOJABfJbbjZXH0SOh96vmR+DMOaQQl6G5zpCOdJUbfIuwJ P2BEjrlyIlvqix4xO9Qu/2/PV+Lx6NQ/0UKLUD3FMG08IHyECxnfxN2m/8mgjSTq/qIE2J QDCFuWqXszeCwQ7WtyxDzTwAu0Yn2DNkNkJ4o5B/OSMdQkwCMTFRxfkMBIQ2/8C6Qgqvp1 M69dtKz13QkGbhZWtupJEdsqDFgmUUTSW7MXLlKk2FRIa+F/8hhGSp2zB3o4sWZcw62qBu kP3hZosuBI7D5Fidl5vDF2qQKJ38Fqf946OclBZV71OvrouvqE4Q0lY9M0oqdQ== Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [185.93.159.194]) by ht-mailstore01.isnic.is (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4C6A23367; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 09:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: Multiple new R ports From: =?utf-8?Q?Einar_Bjarni_Halld=C3=B3rsson?= In-Reply-To: <2E6761A6-F462-4B83-94AC-9658583A581D@isnic.is> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 09:32:00 +0000 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6A36BE5B-2C76-434D-8EFF-D9518DA7E6E6@isnic.is> References: <44F61FC1-532F-447F-80E9-83ED37599CD7@isnic.is> <16c2bf5c-9022-4ce9-9283-838f99d80ba3@isnic.is> <2E6761A6-F462-4B83-94AC-9658583A581D@isnic.is> To: Nuno Teixeira X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[isnic.is,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:193.4.58.0/23:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[isnic.is:s=20200921]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1850, ipnet:193.4.58.0/23, country:IS]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[isnic.is:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThhVV60WQz4Vnh > On 24 Feb 2024, at 06:24, Einar Bjarni Halld=C3=B3rsson = wrote: >=20 >> On 22 Feb 2024, at 11:43, Nuno Teixeira wrote: >>=20 >> I did take a look at review and noticed that TEST_DEPENDS are not = used >> and that could means that test target works without any depends or >> ports are not tested at all. >> My curiosity is what do you think about the importance (or not) to >> have testunit feature working on R ports? >>=20 I=E2=80=99ve got tests working on all the ports, except for = R-cran-systemfonts. I have a PR [1] for upstream to fix that. Tests do give out notice that suggested packages aren=E2=80=99t = installed to be tested, what=E2=80=99s your opinion on that? I don=E2=80=99t want to add too = much to the packages and I definately don=E2=80=99t want to add options at this moment. Would it be fine to add the ports as is, without suggested packages? .einar [1] https://github.com/r-lib/systemfonts/pull/111= From nobody Sat Feb 24 10:05:17 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThjDn2sC7z5CSt4 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 10:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ThjDm5b9Cz4Zrx; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 10:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-21-232.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.21.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.17.1/8.17.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 41OA5IcP082812; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:05:18 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:05:17 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: Gleb Popov Cc: "ports@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Call for help: moving manpages to share/man Message-Id: <20240224190517.204fa1055412ea673267d92d@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThjDm5b9Cz4Zrx On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:29:48 +0300 Gleb Popov wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 1:19 PM Gleb Popov wrote: > > > > Ahoy there fellow porters! > > > > portmgr@ is currently working on switching the directory into which > > man pages are installed from "${PREFIX}/man" to "${PREFIX}/share/man". > > It is quite a tedious process, as you might imagine. > > ... > > It's been a month since the initial call was made. Despite the fact > that the separate branch approach didn't really work out, the process > of moving manpages to share/man is still ongoing. I'd like to thank > everyone who sent me PRs and plain patches - they were all integrated > into the main branch and all were helpful for our cause. > > Still, there is a lot more to process, so I'm making another call for > help, hopefully more concrete this time. > moin@ created a list of problematic ports [1] along with MAINTAINER > field, so you can quickly find if any of your ports need fixing. In > this list "failed" ports are confirmed to be broken if we change the > default mandir prefix in the framework. The "skipped" ports may > probably be dependent on the "failed" ones, so it is better to deal > with "failed" first. > > We have an established ways to fix Autotools and CMake-based ports: > - Autotools ports are generally identified by the presence of > GNU_CONFIGURE=yes knob. To fix such a port one should add > GNU_CONFIGURE_MANPREFIX=${PREFIX}/share knob and fix pkg-plist. > - CMake already defaults to a correct mandir location, so CMake ports > usually have some patching that replaces share/man with man. To fix > such ports it is sufficient to remove that patching and then again fix > the plist. > > We don't yet care of Meson ports (although it also should be as simple > as the Autotools case). Feel free to skip them for now. > > Finally, there are ports with homegrown ad-hoc build systems. There is > no general way to fix them. > > When making a mandir-converting change remember to put "Approved by: > portmgr (blanket)" tag into the commit message. This also means that > if you're fixing someone else's port, you don't need to wait for a > maintainer timeout (although it might be still a good idea to wait for > the feedback if the port in question is complex or the change itself > is big). > > Thanks in advance to everyone who will help us in this quest. > > [1] https://people.freebsd.org/~bofh/dropzone/manprefix-fail.maintainer.txt FYI: Not-yet-obsoleted patches uploaded at Bug 277028 [2] include fix for relocating manpage under /usr/local/man/ into /usr/local/share/man/. Both version of patches are monolithic patches including updates for multiple related ports. The update for relocation was not trivial, but fortunately, not interferring other changes, so I can cut out the changes from others easily, if required. As I'm not a maintainer of any updated ports, not a committer, and not an insider of nvidia, so whether or not the fix is committed as-is is on maintainers of each 3 ports. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.965]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[grahamperrin]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::22b:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Thp581njpz45Yj On 18/02/2024 16:22, Guido Falsi wrote: > > … Poudriere "recently" gained ability to use binary packages for > dependencies, with safeguards for different options and other things ( > -b option, in poudriere-bulk(8)). … Updated: Getting started with poudriere … It's a very concise starter. The first edition, June 2022, began with installation of ports-mgmt/poudriere-devel, and included the PACKAGE_FETCH_BRANCH=latest hint (for packages to be fetched from latest, without option -b at the command line). Today's edition begins with installation of ports-mgmt/poudriere. From nobody Sat Feb 24 15:42:05 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThrjM6mJfz5B1dv for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ThrjL39lfz4SSB for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=catflap.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jamie@catflap.org designates 2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jamie@catflap.org X-Catflap-Envelope-From: Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 41OFg50b034220; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:42:05 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 41OFg5sd034219; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:42:05 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202402241542.41OFg5sd034219@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:42:05 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: marklmi@yahoo.com, jamie@catflap.org Cc: rozhuk.im@gmail.com, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com, aryehfriedman@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken [port building configuration notes] References: <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1.ref@yahoo.com> <87B38D6C-1D83-4158-B03B-F4C8EA396DD1@yahoo.com> <20240219104333.6ecff336@rimwks.local> <8C4AB1AF-139D-4144-867C-6AD1AE1E1307@yahoo.com> <7B21AFF0-E0D5-4836-8486-F812E79152DF@yahoo.com> <202402201313.41KDD6G2013501@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <9374651A-B5E2-4522-88C0-1E9A3F65E4EA@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <9374651A-B5E2-4522-88C0-1E9A3F65E4EA@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:42:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.77 / 15.00]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.963]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.61)[-0.612]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[catflap.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:dyslexicfish.net]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jamie]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,FreeBSD.org]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com,catflap.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThrjL39lfz4SSB Hi Mark, Mark Millard wrote: > On Feb 20, 2024, at 05:13, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > > I've probably grasped the wrong ideas from this thread. I thought it was > > about the implied effective deprecation of the ports infrastructure for > > a binary package only structure, with poudriere being used to create > > custom packages in any way it wants going forward. > > Please do not confuse the original thread's overall range of points > with this more technical subthread. I've been limiting myself to the > subthread's subject area as best I can. Given that focus, . . . > > To my knowledge, poudriere is a user of the ports and pkg > infrastructures (that both exist independent of poudriere), never > the other way around. In that it is like portmaster: layered > on top without invalidating the infrastructures below. > > This also makes poudriere just one of multiple alternatives. > I've not suggested eliminating any of them. Thanks for the reply. That makes it clearer. I did indeed get confused by the way the thread evolved. 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I need to conduct some tests on top of the FreeBSD 13.1 that I'm going to explain below : I lost the ability to pass one Nvidia GpU from FreeBSD 14.0 in this case to any Linux vm. The same procedure that worked until "yesterday" does not work anymore (for me). Corvin (a competent bhyve developer) does not reply to my message anymore. I would like to be sure that it is true that it is bugged,as it seems,and not that I'm making some mistake. So,I will explain what I do to enable this functionality. I hope that you also want to try or that he tries a different procedure that works. The most important thing is that we will be able to enable the function. Some time ago Corvin gave me 3 scripts to run in sequence. They are the following : a) setup_git_140.sh git clone https://github.com/beckhoff/freebsd-src /usr/corvin-src-140 b) build_branch_140.sh #!/bin/sh usage() { cat >&2 << EOF Usage: ${0} [] Checkouts to and builds it with (see build.sh for more information). EOF exit 1 } set -e set -u readonly script_path="$(cd "$(dirname "${0}")" && pwd)" readonly branch="${1?Missing $(usage)}" shift echo $branch cd /usr/corvin-src-140 git fetch --all --prune git checkout -f "${branch}" ${script_path}/build_140.sh "$@" c) build_build_140.sh #!/bin/sh usage() { cat >&2 << EOF Usage: ${0} [--no-bhf] [--reboot] [--verbose] [--without- kernel] Builds bhyve EOF exit 1 } build_module() { local _path _path="${1}" # change to module path cd "${_path}" # clean module if test "${clean}" = "true"; then make clean > "${cmd_redirect}" 2>&1 fi # build module make > "${cmd_redirect}" 2>&1 # install module make install > "${cmd_redirect}" } build() { build_module "${src_dir}/include" build_module "${src_dir}/lib/libvmmapi" build_module "${src_dir}/sys/modules/vmm" # build kernel if test "${with_kernel}" = "true"; then cd "${src_dir}" local kern_opts kern_opts="-j$(sysctl -n hw.ncpu)" if test "${with_bhf}" = "true"; then kern_opts="${kern_opts} KERNCONF=BHF" fi if ! test "${clean}" = "true"; then kern_opts="${kern_opts} NO_CLEAN=YES" fi make kernel ${kern_opts} > "${cmd_redirect}" 2>&1 fi build_module "${src_dir}/usr.sbin/bhyve" build_module "${src_dir}/usr.sbin/bhyvectl" build_module "${src_dir}/usr.sbin/bhyveload" if test "${with_reboot}" = "true"; then reboot fi } set -e set -u while test $# -gt 0; do case "${1-}" in --clean) clean="true" shift ;; --reboot) with_reboot="true" shift ;; --src-dir=*) src_dir="${1#*=}" shift ;; --verbose) cmd_redirect="/dev/stdout" shift ;; --without-bhf) with_bhf="false" shift ;; --without-kernel) with_kernel="false" shift ;; *) usage ;; esac done readonly clean="${clean-"false"}" readonly cmd_redirect="${cmd_redirect-"/dev/null"}" readonly src_dir="${src_dir-"/usr/corvin-src-140"}" echo $src_dir readonly with_bhf="${with_bhf-"true"}" readonly with_kernel="${with_kernel-"true"}" readonly with_reboot="${with_reboot-"false"}" build Here we go. This is what I do to start the compilation that should produce the working bhyve system files that will give to use the passthru of one nvidia gpu on FreeBSD 14.0 : a) ./setup_git_140.sh b) ./build_branch_140.sh origin/phab/corvink/14.0/nvidia-wip --without-bhf --verbose ok. It compiled the code without giving errors,until a certain point,when it happens what you see below. I want to understand if the code is bugged. Please help me : /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1174:21: error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx' passthru_cfgwrite(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset - 0x88000, size, value); ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1174:26: error: use of undeclared identifier 'vcpu' passthru_cfgwrite(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset - 0x88000, size, value); ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1209:20: error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx' passthru_cfgread(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset - 0x88000, size, (uint32_t *)&val); ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1209:25: error: use of undeclared identifier 'vcpu' passthru_cfgread(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset - 0x88000, size, (uint32_t *)&val); ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1302:29: error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx' if (vm_unmap_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc- >psc_sel.pc_bus, ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1309:27: error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx' if (vm_map_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc- >psc_sel.pc_bus, ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1327:29: error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx' if (vm_unmap_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc- >psc_sel.pc_bus, ^ /usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1334:27: error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx' if (vm_map_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc- >psc_sel.pc_bus, ^ 8 errors generated. *** Error code 1 Exploring his github it seems that his code should work on FreeBSD 13.1 and FreeBSD 14.0. So,I've realized that it does not work for the latter. Maybe it works for FreeBSD 13.1. To be sure it I've installed it on one of my disks. I've installed xfce4 and KDE,Xorg and from the ports (after having upgraded them),I've installed the nvidia-driver version. 535.146.02 ; I didn't have any problem. The problem arises when I tried to install the package drm-kmod from ports. Unfortunately I'm not able to compile it. This is what happened : root@marietto:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod # make ====> drm-kmod-20220907_2 not supported for this configuration. ok. At this point I tried to install it from the packages : root@marietto:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod # make clean ====> cleaning for drm-kmod-20220907_2 so : root@marietto:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod # pkg install drm-kmod New packages to be INSTALLED : drm-kmod: 20220907_2 OK now,I have performed additional configuration to : nano /home/marietto/.xinitrc : exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4 nano /etc/rc.conf : kdm5_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" kld_list="nvidia nvidia-modeset" rpcbind_enable="YES" dtcms_enable="YES" inetd_enable="YES" nano /boot/loader.conf vmm_load="YES" nmdm_load="YES" tmpfs_load="YES" cryptodev_load="YES" zfs_load="YES" kern.racct.enable="1" kern.vty=vt kern.cam.scsi_delay="10000" nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection root@marietto:/home/marietto # lspci 01:00.0 NVIDIA GP106 01:00.1 NVIDIA GP106 High Definition Audio Controller 02:00.0 NVIDIA TU102 02:00.1 NVIDIA TU102 High Definition Audio Controller 02:00.2 NVIDIA TU102 USB Controller 02:00.3 NVIDIA TU102 Serial BUS Controller Now,I want to startx to start xfce4 : marietto@marietto: $ startx Fatal server error : no screens found (EE) Check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log : NVIDIA dlloader X driver 535.146.02 NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA gpus NVIDIA : Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module How to fix it ? -- Mario. --00000000000056b61e061222ba6b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello to everyone.

I need to= conduct some tests on top of the FreeBSD 13.1 that I'm going to explai= n below :

I lost the ability to pass one Nv= idia GpU from FreeBSD 14.0 in this case to any Linux vm. The same procedure= that=20 worked until "yesterday" does not work anymore (for me).

Corvin (a competent bhyve developer) does not reply to my message anymor= e. I would like to=20 be sure that it is true that it is bugged,as it seems,and not that I'm= =20 making some mistake.=C2=A0

So,I will explain what I do to enable this= =20 functionality. I hope that you also want to try or that he tries a=20 different procedure that works. The most important thing is that we will be able to enable the function.

Some time ago Corvin gave me 3 scripts to run in sequence. They are the = following :

a) setup_git_140.sh


git clone https://github.com/beckhoff/freebsd-src /usr/corvin=
-src-140


b) build_branch_140.sh


    #!/bin/sh
   =20
    usage() {
        cat >&2 << EOF
    Usage: ${0} <branch> [<build_options>]
        Checkouts to <branch> and builds it with=20
    <build_options> (see build.sh for more information).
    EOF
        exit 1
    }
   =20
    set -e
    set -u
   =20
    readonly script_path=3D"$(cd "=
$(dirname "${0}")" && pwd)"
    readonly branch=3D"${1?Missing <branch=
>$(usage)}"
    shift
    echo $branch
   =20
    cd /usr/corvin-src-140
    git fetch --all --prune
    git checkout -f "${branch}"
   =20
    ${script_path}/build_140.sh "$@&qu=
ot;


c) build_build_140.sh


    #!/bin/sh
   =20
    usage() {
        cat >&2 << EOF
    Usage: ${0} [--no-bhf] [--reboot] [--verbose] [--without-
    kernel]
        Builds bhyve
    EOF
        exit 1
    }
   =20
    build_module() {
        local _path
        _path=3D"${1}"
   =20
        # change to module path
        cd "${_path}"
   =20
        # clean module
        if test "${clean}=
" =3D "true"; then
            make clean > "${cmd_redirect}"<=
/span> 2>&1
        fi
   =20
        # build module
        make > "${cmd_redirect}" 2&g=
t;&1
   =20
        # install module
        make install > "${cmd_redirect}"
    }
   =20
    build() {
        build_module "${src_dir}/include"
        build_module "${src_dir}/lib/libvmmapi"=
;
        build_module "${src_dir}/sys/modules/vmm&qu=
ot;
   =20
        # build kernel
        if test "${with_kernel}<=
/span>" =3D "true"; then
            cd "${src_dir}"
            local kern_opts
            kern_opts=3D"-j$(sysctl -n hw.ncpu)&quo=
t;
            if test "${with_bhf}=
" =3D "true"; then
                kern_opts=3D"${kern_opts}=20
    KERNCONF=3DBHF"
            fi
            if ! test "${clean}<=
/span>" =3D "true"; then
                kern_opts=3D"${kern_opts}=20
    NO_CLEAN=3DYES"
            fi
            make kernel ${kern_opts} > "${=
cmd_redirect}" 2>&1
        fi
   =20
        build_module "${src_dir}/usr.sbin/bhyve&quo=
t;
        build_module "${src_dir}/usr.sbin/bhyvectl&=
quot;
        build_module "${src_dir}/usr.sbin/bhyveload=
"
   =20
        if test "${with_reboot}<=
/span>" =3D "true"; then
            reboot
        fi
    }
   =20
    set -e
    set -u
   =20
    while test $# -gt 0; do
        case "${1-}" in
            --clean)
                clean=3D"true"
                shift
                ;;
            --reboot)
                with_reboot=3D"true"
                shift
                ;;
            --src-dir=3D*)
                src_dir=3D"${1#*=3D}"
                shift
                ;;
            --verbose)
                cmd_redirect=3D"/dev/stdout"
                shift
                ;;
            --without-bhf)
                with_bhf=3D"false"
                shift
                ;;
            --without-kernel)
                with_kernel=3D"false"
                shift
                ;;
            *)
                usage
                ;;
        esac
    done
   =20
    readonly clean=3D"${clean-"false&quo=
t;}"
    readonly cmd_redirect=3D"${cmd_redirect-&=
quot;/dev/null"}"
    readonly src_dir=3D"${src_dir-"/usr/=
corvin-src-140"}"
    echo $src_dir
    readonly with_bhf=3D"${with_bhf-"tru=
e"}"
    readonly with_kernel=3D"${with_kernel-&qu=
ot;true"}"
    readonly with_reboot=3D"${with_reboot-&qu=
ot;false"}"
   =20
    build


Here we go. This is what I do to start the compilation that s= hould=20 produce the working bhyve system files that will give to use the=20 passthru of one nvidia gpu on FreeBSD 14.0 :


a) ./setup_git_140.sh

b) ./build_branch_140.sh origin/phab/corvink/14.0/nvidia-wip --without-bhf =
--verbose


ok. It compiled the code without giving errors,until a certai= n=20 point,when it happens what you see below. I want to understand if the=20 code is bugged. Please help me :


/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1174:21:=
=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx'
                passthru_cfgwrite(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset -=20
0x88000, size, value);
                                  ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1174:26:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'vcpu'
                passthru_cfgwrite(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset -=20
0x88000, size, value);
                                       ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1209:20:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx'
                passthru_cfgread(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset -=20
0x88000, size, (uint32_t *)&val);
                                 ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1209:25:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'vcpu'
                passthru_cfgread(ctx, vcpu, pi, offset -=20
0x88000, size, (uint32_t *)&val);
                                      ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1302:29:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx'
                        if (vm_unmap_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc-
>psc_sel.pc_bus,
                                                 ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1309:27:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx'
                        if (vm_map_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc-
>psc_sel.pc_bus,
                                               ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1327:29:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx'
                        if (vm_unmap_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc-
>psc_sel.pc_bus,
                                                 ^
/usr/corvin-src-140/usr.sbin/bhyve/pci_passthru.c:1334:27:=20
error: use of undeclared identifier 'ctx'
                        if (vm_map_pptdev_mmio(ctx, sc-
>psc_sel.pc_bus,
                                               ^
8 errors generated.
*** Error code 1


Exploring his github it seems that his code should work on Fr= eeBSD 13.1 and FreeBSD 14.0. So,I've realized that it does not work for= the latter. Maybe it works for FreeBSD 13.1.

To b= e sure it I've installed it on one of my disks. I've installed xfce4 and KDE,Xorg and= =20 from the ports (after having upgraded them),I've installed the=20 nvidia-driver version. 535.146.02 ; I didn't have any problem.=C2=A0

The problem arises when I tried to install the packa= ge drm-kmod from ports.=C2=A0

Unfortunately I'= m not able to compile it. This is what happened :

= root@marietto:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod # make
=3D=3D=3D=3D>= ; drm-kmod-20220907_2 not supported for this configuration.

<= /div>
ok. At this point I tried to install it from the packages :
=

root@marietto:/usr/ports/graphics/drm-kmod # make = clean
=3D=3D=3D=3D> cleaning for drm-kmod-20220907_2

so :

root@marietto:/usr/ports= /graphics/drm-kmod # pkg install drm-kmod

New pack= ages to be INSTALLED :
drm-kmod: 20220907_2
OK

now,I have performed additional configuration to :

nano /home/marietto/.xinitrc :

e= xec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4
=
nano /etc/rc.conf :

kdm5_enable=3D&= quot;YES"
dbus_enable=3D"YES"
hald_enabl= e=3D"YES"
kld_list=3D"nvidia nvidia-modeset"<= /div>
rpcbind_enable=3D"YES"
dtcms_enable=3D"Y= ES"
inetd_enable=3D"YES"

=
nano /boot/loader.conf

vmm_load=3D"= ;YES"
nmdm_load=3D"YES"
tmpfs_load=3D&qu= ot;YES"
cryptodev_load=3D"YES"
zfs_load= =3D"YES"
kern.racct.enable=3D"1"
ke= rn.vty=3Dvt
kern.cam.scsi_delay=3D"10000"
nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "= Device"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0=C2=A0 "Card0"<= /div>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 BusID=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "PCI:1:0:0"
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root@marietto:/home/marietto # lsp= ci

01:00.0 NVIDIA GP106
01:00.1 NVIDIA G= P106 High Definition Audio Controller
02:00.0 NVIDIA TU102
<= div>02:00.1 NVIDIA TU102 High Definition Audio Controller
02:00.2 NVIDI= A TU102 USB Controller
02:00.3 NVIDIA TU102 Serial BUS Controller=

Now,I want to startx to start xfce4 :
<= br>
marietto@marietto: $ startx

Fatal se= rver error : no screens found (EE)
Check the log file at "/v= ar/log/Xorg.0.log"

nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log :=

NVIDIA dlloader X driver 535.146.02
NVI= DIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA gpus
NVIDIA : Failed = to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module

=
How to fix it ?

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Mario.
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[grahamperrin]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32e:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ThyNN380dz48BG On 14/02/2024 18:56, Stefan Ehmann wrote: > … For the error 'Undefined symbol "sin"', there's an active discussion > here: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=277021 > > … I was bitten with locally-built 123.0_3,2 on Thursday 22nd February, so I reactivated a boot environment with 122.0.1_3,2. The more recent package from the FreeBSD repo for FreeBSD:15:amd64 is not bugged. From /var/log/messages.0.bz2: Feb 23 14:43:12 mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd pkg[8841]: firefox upgraded: 122.0.1_3,2 -> 123.0,2 From nobody Sun Feb 25 00:19:14 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Tj4B25Rl7z5BtgY for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 00:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Tj4B02hBCz4pXD for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 00:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp designates 153.125.133.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-21-232.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.21.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.17.1/8.17.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 41P0JFgF001645 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 09:19:15 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 09:19:14 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox failing at startup Message-Id: <20240225091914.f7e696f65a39375a1ac8a0e2@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <3951881.BtFdxlPPek@walrus.pepperland> <100530349.9BBdX1lBPE@walrus.pepperland> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.69 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.995]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:153.125.133.16/28]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Tj4B02hBCz4pXD On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:57:50 +0000 Graham Perrin wrote: > On 14/02/2024 18:56, Stefan Ehmann wrote: > > … For the error 'Undefined symbol "sin"', there's an active discussion > > here: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=277021 > > > > … > > I was bitten with locally-built 123.0_3,2 on Thursday 22nd February, so > I reactivated a boot environment with 122.0.1_3,2. > > The more recent package from the FreeBSD repo for FreeBSD:15:amd64 is > not bugged. From /var/log/messages.0.bz2: > > Feb 23 14:43:12 mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd pkg[8841]: firefox upgraded: > 122.0.1_3,2 -> 123.0,2 Even with the patch proposed at Bug 277021 applied? firefox-123.0_3,2 built and running fine for me with the patch applied. stable/14, amd64 at commit 81be5a55d9bb8717e280433cd8927dfe9bf9b814. 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From nobody Sun Feb 25 16:04:27 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TjT8r30spz5BW7f for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (mx1.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:20a:800::464]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TjT8q0djJz4gTb for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ellael.org header.s=dkim header.b=GTNWFbel; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=ellael.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trashcan@ellael.org designates 2001:41d0:20a:800::464 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trashcan@ellael.org Received: from smtpclient.apple (p200300fB4f0E120120391a3a224C28cB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:fb:4f0e:1201:2039:1a3a:224c:28cb]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TjT8l3rryzppW; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 17:04:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ellael.org; s=dkim; t=1708877079; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=zk4Caafwe+B8+JFVztzy/7XYQ+e7GFAYL7wQmTjrLLE=; b=GTNWFbelbK1SpVRUnLUYJeknOAQwLvbbUAV1IOMDwUeWKGIEIw2jxoHE5B10l7JKqM1zHI HlZPSFFAjiuZ4UUVfTdUJ5+KbMjsymS4YkoyLNaEAXASCPTtQ/1TAIZfSnJgRuCUBXLI8I 2WgYbdCTUK+Xz87hD8+zhskd4yoFV3K888cdEkq312/1gmdIJl5571RxTWO0i446+y76Dr pSxTgKdXvd2S9zMtrHdeWhrfiVTYKuJ8DycY4TziVEK/K14a/qv6rCLnPFtMPPn3qX/WRK qK30uP+t8hSaE3MrqXGhAce2q3GYJiE4qXaPz9DQwdCNpXiy2vp9MkEQ1twbzg== From: Michael Grimm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5DEE45C1-B39E-427A-8FF6-5A79FD6D9C53" List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: dns/knot3 update to 3.3.4 Message-Id: <14DA84EE-3CC0-454E-967A-CBFF40C06ABD@ellael.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 17:04:27 +0100 Cc: freebsd@dns.company To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.90 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ellael.org,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ellael.org:s=dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:41d0:20a:800::464]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ellael.org:+]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2001:41d0:20a:800::464:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TjT8q0djJz4gTb --Apple-Mail=_5DEE45C1-B39E-427A-8FF6-5A79FD6D9C53 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, a new version of this port has been released two month ago.=20 The maintainer normally updates knot3 shortly after the release of a new = version. He didn't react on a mail of mine. No pun intended, there are = numerous reasons for that. I do have a git-diff patch at hand, successfully compiling with = poudriere, and running well for 1 month now. What can I do to get this patch committed?=20 Shall I create a PR like = https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=3D11f44f375254e07a262455aaf8311b= fd4bbedb67 Regards, Michael --Apple-Mail=_5DEE45C1-B39E-427A-8FF6-5A79FD6D9C53 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=knot3-3.3.4_1.diff Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="knot3-3.3.4_1.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit diff --git a/dns/knot3/Makefile b/dns/knot3/Makefile index 639dc6ca4d50..3530786ef1d8 100644 --- a/dns/knot3/Makefile +++ b/dns/knot3/Makefile @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ PORTNAME= knot -DISTVERSION= 3.3.3 +DISTVERSION= 3.3.4 PORTREVISION= 1 CATEGORIES= dns MASTER_SITES= https://secure.nic.cz/files/knot-dns/ \ diff --git a/dns/knot3/distinfo b/dns/knot3/distinfo index 758346055274..83f4f2cc86fa 100644 --- a/dns/knot3/distinfo +++ b/dns/knot3/distinfo @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ -TIMESTAMP = 1702644682 -SHA256 (knot-3.3.3.tar.xz) = aab40aab2acd735c500f296bacaa5c84ff0488221a4068ce9946e973beacc5ae -SIZE (knot-3.3.3.tar.xz) = 1586348 +TIMESTAMP = 1707743944 +SHA256 (knot-3.3.4.tar.xz) = 2a771b43ce96b6b48d53b29f2086528732e6ac067bc71a3be934f859d1302fc0 +SIZE (knot-3.3.4.tar.xz) = 1553908 --Apple-Mail=_5DEE45C1-B39E-427A-8FF6-5A79FD6D9C53-- From nobody Sun Feb 25 16:07:49 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TjTDg3W28z5BWV3 for ; 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charset=us-ascii > On Feb 25, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Michael Grimm = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > a new version of this port has been released two month ago. >=20 > The maintainer normally updates knot3 shortly after the release of a = new version. He didn't react on a mail of mine. No pun intended, there = are numerous reasons for that. >=20 > I do have a git-diff patch at hand, successfully compiling with = poudriere, and running well for 1 month now. >=20 > What can I do to get this patch committed? > Shall I create a PR like = https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=3D11f44f375254e07a262455aaf8311b= fd4bbedb67 >=20 > Regards, > Michael >=20 >=20 > Hi, It's best to create a PR and awaiting for maintainer-timeout. However on certain cases like security or vulnerability issues the = update can be committed without the maintainer-approval. So if this is a = release related to the recent dnssec security issue let me know. Otherwise = please create a ticket and await. 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(check /var/run/named/pid). ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfstrm.so.0: version LIBFSTRM_0.2.0 required = by /usr/local/lib/libdns-9.18.24.so not defined /usr/local/etc/rc.d/named: ERROR: named-checkconf for /usr/local/etc/namedb= /named.conf failed after my weekly update (in this case, from stable/14-n266695-52d7bd8c4268 to stable/14-n266881-ff9794844f86), followed by an apparently boring update of installed packages (via locally-built packages, built using ports-mgmt/poudriere-devel, running in stable/14-n266881-ff9794844f86). I managed to get around it by forcibly deinstalling fstrm-0.6.1_1 and (forcibly) installing an older fstrm-0.6.1 package (from last week), as I had no name resolution working at all by that time. (And, given that, a lot of other services were failing, generally in expected ways.) My local mirror of the ports repo is at main-n652984-cb640dd9f467. So: What's a real fix? Thanks. Peace, david --=20 David H. 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Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:41:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8a579215-3209-459d-9118-e1f43bb17b41@protected-networks.net> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:41:47 -0500 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Scary update: devel/fstrm-0.6.1 -> fstrm-0.6.1_1 Content-Language: en-NZ To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, David Wolfskill References: From: Michael Butler Autocrypt: addr=imb@protected-networks.net; keydata= xsDiBETHZAURBACJicNaIbVVVZahtQcdJeogtTLjCYAdj4kFMpy6Y3Ac19UNWDM+TrD4yFPi 5nc/pp9M/5Q4RNBr6a97fTYroTaq+vDwWdklOHwD2ZXs7FqwWOtVSIPT/rev5fUvwEF2VFYE sNDbpE5HHpP/oFUw5scEJZVyOBJSGvYb1IhV55NWswCgzkUGbG8A3s+oZXkHqTCYGW/seukD +wTo/L835xLpbTJxoxEKeGA3aWifSsRvpWWHyXye6sTkSN3SmtE9A8Pqmdb1dBEO0eOms6GD RamvCFgdvg2HesAv9l7L/7Mm9iKJs6uTAa+taIQslpumGh4PRc94IepVFzAa4Ef/FA4mWx9w P/EqNsKUPE2U5HI1decbopkxH/d/A/9Hupc10lPsXVMACd54/YZRsSTTcArheekm8qE/f8Hl 1Q7At+yuFgfMll4QPAhefnrLUanXF1bWtxG5PmaJktDYp3HOmy43giZgacgt+a3TVd6vu8Gs DnI4FOfYllq7mZFezMIulCWUYtnkMEXEeyzp39dygi7blPIjckWlQ2sc380rTWljaGFlbCBC dXRsZXIgPGltYkBwcm90ZWN0ZWQtbmV0d29ya3MubmV0PsJgBBMRAgAgBQJEx2QFAhsDBgsJ CAcDAgQVAggDBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQQv9rrgRC1JL7mgCdEnPeo22kqT/bES+D78QSGhNR r8cAn2xOMeu6pBrc2tDY8Ky/70HBctmjzsFNBETHZA4QCACKbm/PMn4QcyDEvIn4MF+t2E1A zgiBAkPCMtWT1CcqeUj13OwNM8qJD/mBWjCZCnr1hKVbvzOmgKaM4uDCWIcSCdoDTJx1DqMx abr+EpHz1fL6aagEOKHz5sCYOkDXt3zzZ/5RBMdkEJwunXYtAbu5e68oty+d0DFzAM3pBp6l GC0TE3VutmFR/KK66rf0KB83YQBf/IAtyqsRIQPP9t0SLfJ+kqKXf73nvAUFEtb21gZSzhTm QP87QKyQvenE8o4PQ2tEslq2jICB7pGcqIrwP4o3Hl4V+HXi3lA26MMJ5rakQB2sKKWroPVQ BiRXO+W8Qf+0oQFq38oMXR5sPOs/AAMFB/sEKcjzvkwviZOsDElthxtgrmqUNKC9G/4Fw0tK k6fMynv+bcKz85k2uWOIfefUKBFoQ0SCphU4jquJENqqy6BPTkXePlIJok2/GkF7xtHm2FPq tTTuYmoBrGsls28Z9dn2LcBwFHz59SSWM9JFPIvFr9HCkKtp6zPUsJd5b02+0wgzDubTMQS9 M2LwGSh9xK6xl4MGgngl22b0TZDh5qHwmsywOX6SbGsQfeNpkptJ4gPjShypusFyF+pevnCM wTfUPCBd/AFbu2fHFQjA8sgkr5IqXuc4PoiIBXc9upoFpDqGkYssAKbzGcRsK94a8hRROJV9 bzPyYempIWaPXr2EwkkEGBECAAkFAkTHZA4CGwwACgkQQv9rrgRC1JKqhwCeOov6gTo8eWte es3gbLr2n2b5AXMAoItSlajet574lkouzY3u3scSRfiE In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5716, ipnet:202.12.127.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TjTzm0Y1fz4nXk On 2/25/24 11:23, David Wolfskill wrote: > Symptom was: > > albert(14.0-S)[4] sudo service named restart > Password: > named not running? (check /var/run/named/pid). > ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfstrm.so.0: version LIBFSTRM_0.2.0 required by /usr/local/lib/libdns-9.18.24.so not defined > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/named: ERROR: named-checkconf for /usr/local/etc/namedb/named.conf failed > > after my weekly update (in this case, from stable/14-n266695-52d7bd8c4268 > to stable/14-n266881-ff9794844f86), followed by an apparently boring > update of installed packages (via locally-built packages, built using > ports-mgmt/poudriere-devel, running in stable/14-n266881-ff9794844f86). > > I managed to get around it by forcibly deinstalling fstrm-0.6.1_1 > and (forcibly) installing an older fstrm-0.6.1 package (from last > week), as I had no name resolution working at all by that time. (And, > given that, a lot of other services were failing, generally in expected > ways.) > > My local mirror of the ports repo is at main-n652984-cb640dd9f467. > > So: What's a real fix? I had to force a rebuild/reinstall of bind918 after the fstrm upgrade. bind918 version should have been bumped to account for the dependency :-( Michael From nobody Sun Feb 25 17:15:58 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TjVlH3rJ6z5Bd45 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 17:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (mx1.enfer-du-nord.net [91.121.41.56]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TjVlH1fsZz4snl; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 17:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (p200300fB4f0E120120391a3a224C28cB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:fb:4f0e:1201:2039:1a3a:224c:28cb]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TjVlD6fyRzr6p; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 18:16:08 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ellael.org; s=dkim; t=1708881369; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=VZlpD3GPad2LUpX68EkJW0tyM/qF9LCtk2/oO2vzv+M=; b=f9PhrWpP3qr7B4LN3sVjllg7mXFiXoYOAQ7sbw5bmaPJf0VoQYCGx/G3CUP2T7TMW9EhD7 Zq+AEbg/UTtzlZPM2qLD9u1ehCV5eitztZwQKxGDCgj9EhLkYpkk5PuvV63EjSav9w97iT 4KmYh6K6eGieRYaoEENl6iFxy5D9M8R2BPU/qx2kT9UAHa2rmF3bsqtk/yeZ/ppUjh4/rh 4Dc3JY50GVmMoEOBe4PsIxAXmLmEOfeJktErjsLMBF12B0VmXgMgrN5uVJBZ3SZmi3/DNV SklJoSU2FM9xweq2PN3wWFb9OISBT+PIG0YALKglrvh8yWB/WaIPABxzehE3WA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: dns/knot-resolver security update to 5.7.1 (was: dns/knot3 update to 3.3.4) From: Michael Grimm In-Reply-To: <232E3D69-782B-49A7-9B82-AA59765DA98B@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 18:15:58 +0100 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd@dns.company Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <689E4249-F841-4B39-94E0-F2725518BFA0@ellael.org> References: <14DA84EE-3CC0-454E-967A-CBFF40C06ABD@ellael.org> <232E3D69-782B-49A7-9B82-AA59765DA98B@freebsd.org> To: Moin Rahman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TjVlH1fsZz4snl Moin Rahman wrote: >> On Feb 25, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Michael Grimm = wrote: >>=20 >> a new version of this port has been released two month ago. >>=20 >> The maintainer normally updates knot3 shortly after the release of a = new version. He didn't react on a mail of mine. No pun intended, there = are numerous reasons for that. >>=20 >> I do have a git-diff patch at hand, successfully compiling with = poudriere, and running well for 1 month now. >>=20 >> What can I do to get this patch committed? >> Shall I create a PR like = https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=3D11f44f375254e07a262455aaf8311b= fd4bbedb67 > It's best to create a PR and awaiting for maintainer-timeout. Done, https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D277305 > However on certain cases like security or vulnerability issues the = update > can be committed without the maintainer-approval. So if this is a = release > related to the recent dnssec security issue let me know. dns/knot3 as an authoritative DNS server isn't affected by = CVE-2023-50868, if I am not mistaken. Ain't no DNS expert =E2=80=A6 BUT, dns/knot-resolver is affected: = https://gitlab.nic.cz/knot/knot-resolver/-/releases/v5.7.1 I do not use that port, yet.=20 But I opened another PR on that security update to dns/knot-resolver: = https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D277306 All I can say is: dns/knot-resolver 5.7.1 compiles with poudriere. HTH, Michael P.S. 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He didn't react on a mail of mine. No pun intended, there = are numerous reasons for that. >>>=20 >>> I do have a git-diff patch at hand, successfully compiling with = poudriere, and running well for 1 month now. >>>=20 >>> What can I do to get this patch committed? >>> Shall I create a PR like = https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=3D11f44f375254e07a262455aaf8311b= fd4bbedb67 >=20 >> It's best to create a PR and awaiting for maintainer-timeout. >=20 > Done, https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D277305 I will let time take it's course of action. >> However on certain cases like security or vulnerability issues the = update >> can be committed without the maintainer-approval. So if this is a = release >> related to the recent dnssec security issue let me know. >=20 > dns/knot3 as an authoritative DNS server isn't affected by = CVE-2023-50868, if I am not mistaken. Ain't no DNS expert =E2=80=A6 >=20 > BUT, dns/knot-resolver is affected: = https://gitlab.nic.cz/knot/knot-resolver/-/releases/v5.7.1 >=20 > I do not use that port, yet. > But I opened another PR on that security update to dns/knot-resolver: = https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D277306 >=20 > All I can say is: dns/knot-resolver 5.7.1 compiles with poudriere. I will commit this soonish. > HTH, > Michael >=20 > P.S. Please forgive my lack in experience with PRs ;-) > Please let me know, what to correct if neccessary Well as a starter: 1. You do not need PORTREVISION when you already bumping PORTVERSION or = updating versions. I will fix it while committing. 2. Follow this process: a. Initially create the PR with synopsis and description. b. Create git-formatted patch c. Read this section of the documentation: = https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/committers-guide/#git-mini-daily-use d. Specially the git hook part and try to use the hook from here: https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/.hooks/prepare-commit-msg e. Now make a commit to your local branch with the description, PR = etc whatever is relevant. f. Create a git formatted patch and attach it to the PR. While people think this is difficult workflow it actually makes our life = easier as we also have to do the same and also helps us attributing = external developers more easily. 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Please forgive my lack in experience with PRs ;-) >> Please let me know, what to correct if neccessary >=20 > Well as a starter: > 1. You do not need PORTREVISION when you already bumping PORTVERSION = or updating versions. I will fix it while committing. > 2. Follow this process: > a. Initially create the PR with synopsis and description. > b. Create git-formatted patch > c. Read this section of the documentation: > = https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/committers-guide/#git-mini-daily-use > d. Specially the git hook part and try to use the hook from here: > https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/.hooks/prepare-commit-msg > e. Now make a commit to your local branch with the description, PR = etc whatever is relevant. > f. Create a git formatted patch and attach it to the PR. >=20 > While people think this is difficult workflow it actually makes our = life easier as we also have to do the same and also helps us attributing = external developers more easily. Many thanks, I will follow your advice in the future! Especially about d) (hook) I have been totally unaware. Regards, Michael= From nobody Sun Feb 25 19:46:22 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TjZ4x18Q3z5Bx36 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (mx2.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:701:1000::435d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TjZ4w0pPfz4LT8 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ellael.org header.s=dkim header.b=DzsAPnJt; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=ellael.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trashcan@ellael.org designates 2001:41d0:701:1000::435d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trashcan@ellael.org Received: from smtpclient.apple (p200300FB4F0E120120391A3A224c28Cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:fb:4f0e:1201:2039:1a3a:224c:28cb]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TjZ4q2x4yz1M1v; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 20:46:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ellael.org; s=dkim; t=1708890396; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uvbQ18l/6ekNIdir6o5RWFO/SsSWY8Scgsyb/65vatM=; b=DzsAPnJtiFdBFcd/dcLXtf2EprvjGzgPkU47oMDP0MkA/BV8IBPzaO9inXj9gHNe+VWlx2 tTLaBUVgK2sgnNl0XIwDd7dWhhKFjtC51b2dQrdFw9ZAG5/e219gCyW3pMxREXjHAPga6t Fnp8yZbIE0VUMmygk+pV8jxciR8KQ/unvS4nkfTGawKE15u9yYjZQyxXU24OZew+/DY2Cv 9huCEWMldYfyBDRwTPj59Z2h/iwpDi41xHYjVU3aG7JYtHyxTHLO6eUJvemvIpg1vyab3T aZC9izKS451NDmZ5R33PMAhValwh96IaoFGPsQkhlcTZJvJHhkjk+6Qc0HBrZw== From: Michael Grimm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver do not get along with Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 20:46:22 +0100 Cc: freebsd@dns.company To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.84 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.943]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ellael.org,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:41d0:701:1000::435d]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ellael.org:s=dkim]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ellael.org:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2001:41d0:701:1000::435d:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TjZ4w0pPfz4LT8 Hi, I am trying to install dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver simultaneously. Compilation is achieved with the help of poudriere which complains about = dns/knot-resolver: =3D=3D=3D> Installing existing package = /packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg [stable-default-job-02] Installing knot-resolver-5.7.0_2... [stable-default-job-02] `-- Installing knot3-lib-3.3.3_1... pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: = /usr/local/include/knot/module.h Failed to install the following 1 package(s): = /packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg *** Error code 1 Stop. FYI:=20 #) compiling both ports by 'poudriere bulk =E2=80=A6' and installing by = 'pkg install =E2=80=A6' results in the very same error message: pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: = /usr/local/include/knot/module.h #) compiling and installing each of those ports alone succeeds without = error. One needs to know, that there is a third port involved, namely = dns/knot3-lib, dependent for dns/knot-resolver. And, dns/knot3-lib is = simply a part of dns/knot3. Thus, knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 as part of dns/knot3 shouldn't conflict with = dns/knot3. Questions: #) Bug? #) How to resolve this conflict? #) Anyone running both ports in parallel? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1251c3174be848c5b00a5106ab2c5bfd; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:59:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver do not get along with Message-Id: <79302DD2-2673-4745-82B3-06BEEC907DAE@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 14:59:06 -0800 To: trashcan@ellael.org, FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) References: <79302DD2-2673-4745-82B3-06BEEC907DAE.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.85 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.848]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.147:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.147:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TjfMH18Q9z4gvs Michael Grimm wrote on Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:46:22 UTC : > I am trying to install dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver simultaneously. >=20 > Compilation is achieved with the help of poudriere which complains = about dns/knot-resolver: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Installing existing package = /packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg > [stable-default-job-02] Installing knot-resolver-5.7.0_2... > [stable-default-job-02] `-- Installing knot3-lib-3.3.3_1... > pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: = /usr/local/include/knot/module.h >=20 > Failed to install the following 1 package(s): = /packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop. >=20 >=20 > FYI:=20 >=20 > #) compiling both ports by 'poudriere bulk =E2=80=A6' and installing = by 'pkg install =E2=80=A6' results in the very same error message: >=20 > pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs = files into the same place). Problematic file: = /usr/local/include/knot/module.h >=20 > #) compiling and installing each of those ports alone succeeds without = error. >=20 >=20 >=20 > One needs to know, that there is a third port involved, namely = dns/knot3-lib, dependent for dns/knot-resolver. And, dns/knot3-lib is = simply a part of dns/knot3. >=20 > Thus, knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 as part of dns/knot3 shouldn't conflict with = dns/knot3. >=20 >=20 > Questions: >=20 > #) Bug? > #) How to resolve this conflict? > #) Anyone running both ports in parallel? If I understand right, if 2 more more installers should be allowed to be used in the same context in overlapping it-is-installed time frames, they must not conflict in what they install: no files with the same paths. Expected conflicts can be noted in the Makefiles to get earlier notifications of the attempt to use conflicting material. But having such conflicts means mutual exclusion as far as being installed in overlapping time frames goes. I'm not sure how your notes fit with the overlapping time frames issue: is it valid to have knot3-?.?.? and knot3-lib-?.?.? installed in overlapping time frames? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com