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From: Lexi Winter <lexi@le-fay.org>
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hello,
if someone has a moment, could you please commit this patch:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=276347
this is a trivial patch to make a broken port as BROKEN=.
thanks, lexi.
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Hello.
Michael Butler wrote on 2024/02/26 01:41:
> On 2/25/24 11:23, David Wolfskill wrote:
>> ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libfstrm.so.0: version LIBFSTRM_0.2.0 required by /usr/local/lib/libdns-9.18.24.so not defined
>> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/named: ERROR: named-checkconf for /usr/local/etc/namedb/named.conf failed
>> My local mirror of the ports repo is at main-n652984-cb640dd9f467.
> I had to force a rebuild/reinstall of bind918 after the fstrm upgrade. bind918 version should have been bumped to account for the dependency :-(
In ${WRKSRC}/m4/ld-version-script.m4 of devel/fstrm, it is automatically detected and unstable.
It may be possible to fix it by --enable-ld-version-script.
Regards.
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Subject: Re: Call for help: moving manpages to share/man
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> On Feb 23, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Gleb Popov <arrowd@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 1:19=E2=80=AFPM Gleb Popov =
<arrowd@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>=20
>> Ahoy there fellow porters!
>>=20
>> portmgr@ is currently working on switching the directory into which
>> man pages are installed from "${PREFIX}/man" to =
"${PREFIX}/share/man".
>> It is quite a tedious process, as you might imagine.
>> ...
>=20
> It's been a month since the initial call was made. Despite the fact
> that the separate branch approach didn't really work out, the process
> of moving manpages to share/man is still ongoing. I'd like to thank
> everyone who sent me PRs and plain patches - they were all integrated
> into the main branch and all were helpful for our cause.
>=20
> Still, there is a lot more to process, so I'm making another call for
> help, hopefully more concrete this time.
> moin@ created a list of problematic ports [1] along with MAINTAINER
> field, so you can quickly find if any of your ports need fixing. In
> this list "failed" ports are confirmed to be broken if we change the
> default mandir prefix in the framework. The "skipped" ports may
> probably be dependent on the "failed" ones, so it is better to deal
> with "failed" first.
>=20
> We have an established ways to fix Autotools and CMake-based ports:
> - Autotools ports are generally identified by the presence of
> GNU_CONFIGURE=3Dyes knob. To fix such a port one should add
> GNU_CONFIGURE_MANPREFIX=3D${PREFIX}/share knob and fix pkg-plist.
> - CMake already defaults to a correct mandir location, so CMake ports
> usually have some patching that replaces share/man with man. To fix
> such ports it is sufficient to remove that patching and then again fix
> the plist.
>=20
> We don't yet care of Meson ports (although it also should be as simple
> as the Autotools case). Feel free to skip them for now.
>=20
> Finally, there are ports with homegrown ad-hoc build systems. There is
> no general way to fix them.
>=20
> When making a mandir-converting change remember to put "Approved by:
> portmgr (blanket)" tag into the commit message. This also means that
> if you're fixing someone else's port, you don't need to wait for a
> maintainer timeout (although it might be still a good idea to wait for
> the feedback if the port in question is complex or the change itself
> is big).
>=20
> Thanks in advance to everyone who will help us in this quest.
>=20
> [1] =
https://people.freebsd.org/~bofh/dropzone/manprefix-fail.maintainer.txt
>=20
Some of you reached me mentioning that their ports are mentioned in
skipped list and those ports don't have any man pages at all.
Sorry for the confusion. But let me iterate on how I am fixing things.
I started with a fresh ports tree with share/man as the only
place for manpages. And while others are fixing the tree and committing
my build system is just taking the last failed and skipped list to
build and check the next set of remaining ports. So there might be
some ports which are false positives. If that is the case please
send me a mail with your ports which do not have any man pages at
all so that I can manually remove that.
And sorry for the spams. But we are very close to what we planned
to achieve.
Kind regards,
Moin
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Subject: Re: dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver do not get along with
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Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Michael Grimm <trashcan_at_ellael.org> wrote on
> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:46:22 UTC :
>> I am trying to install dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver =
simultaneously.
>>=20
>> Compilation is achieved with the help of poudriere which complains =
about dns/knot-resolver:
>>=20
>> =3D=3D=3D> Installing existing package =
/packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg
>> [stable-default-job-02] Installing knot-resolver-5.7.0_2...
>> [stable-default-job-02] `-- Installing knot3-lib-3.3.3_1...
>> pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs =
files into the same place). Problematic file: =
/usr/local/include/knot/module.h
>>=20
>> Failed to install the following 1 package(s): =
/packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg
>> *** Error code 1
>>=20
>> Stop.
[=E2=80=A6]
>> One needs to know, that there is a third port involved, namely =
dns/knot3-lib, dependent for dns/knot-resolver. And, dns/knot3-lib is =
simply a part of dns/knot3.
>>=20
>> Thus, knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 as part of dns/knot3 shouldn't conflict with =
dns/knot3.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Questions:
>>=20
>> #) Bug?
>> #) How to resolve this conflict?
>> #) Anyone running both ports in parallel?
>=20
> If I understand right, if 2 more more installers should be allowed
> to be used in the same context in overlapping it-is-installed
> time frames, they must not conflict in what they install: no files
> with the same paths.
> Expected conflicts can be noted in the Makefiles to get earlier
> notifications of the attempt to use conflicting material. But
> having such conflicts means mutual exclusion as far as being
> installed in overlapping time frames goes.
> I'm not sure how your notes fit with the overlapping time frames
> issue: is it valid to have knot3-?.?.? and knot3-lib-?.?.?
> installed in overlapping time frames?
FYI: I do not understand what you mean by 'overlapping time frames'
Ok, there are 3 ports involved:
1) authoritative dns: dns/knot3
2) library part of dns/knot3: dns/knot3-lib
3) recursive dns: dns/knot-resolver
2) is needed by 3),=20
thus compiling 3) pulls all libraries and includes from 1),
and stores them in the very same locations as 1) will.
Thats, if I am not mistaken, the reason for pkg complaining 'pkg-static: =
knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs files into the =
same place).'
Thus, IMHO, both ports dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver cannot be =
installed simultaneously. One could install them in different jails, but =
that is not an option for me.
Possible solutions:
1) dns/knot3-lib should store its libraries and includes into a =
different location as dns/knot3 does
2) discard dns/knot3-lib and make dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver =
mutually dependent
3) =E2=80=A6?
I am not an expert in ports internals, thus: what would the best way to =
solve this issue?
Thanks and regards,
Michael
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Subject: Re: dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver do not get along with
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On Feb 26, 2024, at 01:06, Michael Grimm <trashcan@ellael.org> wrote:
> Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Michael Grimm <trashcan_at_ellael.org> wrote on
>> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:46:22 UTC :
>=20
>>> I am trying to install dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver =
simultaneously.
>>>=20
>>> Compilation is achieved with the help of poudriere which complains =
about dns/knot-resolver:
>>>=20
>>> =3D=3D=3D> Installing existing package =
/packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg
>>> [stable-default-job-02] Installing knot-resolver-5.7.0_2...
>>> [stable-default-job-02] `-- Installing knot3-lib-3.3.3_1...
>>> pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs =
files into the same place). Problematic file: =
/usr/local/include/knot/module.h
>>>=20
>>> Failed to install the following 1 package(s): =
/packages/All/knot-resolver-5.7.0_2.pkg
>>> *** Error code 1
>>>=20
>>> Stop.
>=20
> [=E2=80=A6]
>=20
>>> One needs to know, that there is a third port involved, namely =
dns/knot3-lib, dependent for dns/knot-resolver. And, dns/knot3-lib is =
simply a part of dns/knot3.
>>>=20
>>> Thus, knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 as part of dns/knot3 shouldn't conflict with =
dns/knot3.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Questions:
>>>=20
>>> #) Bug?
>>> #) How to resolve this conflict?
>>> #) Anyone running both ports in parallel?
>>=20
>> If I understand right, if 2 more more installers should be allowed
>> to be used in the same context in overlapping it-is-installed
>> time frames, they must not conflict in what they install: no files
>> with the same paths.
>=20
>> Expected conflicts can be noted in the Makefiles to get earlier
>> notifications of the attempt to use conflicting material. But
>> having such conflicts means mutual exclusion as far as being
>> installed in overlapping time frames goes.
>=20
>> I'm not sure how your notes fit with the overlapping time frames
>> issue: is it valid to have knot3-?.?.? and knot3-lib-?.?.?
>> installed in overlapping time frames?
>=20
> FYI: I do not understand what you mean by 'overlapping time frames'
A time interval over which both dns/knot3 and dns/knot3-lib
are in the installed state in the context. You have answered
yes below.
> Ok, there are 3 ports involved:
>=20
> 1) authoritative dns: dns/knot3
> 2) library part of dns/knot3: dns/knot3-lib
> 3) recursive dns: dns/knot-resolver
>=20
> 2) is needed by 3),=20
> thus compiling 3) pulls all libraries and includes from 1),
> and stores them in the very same locations as 1) will.
>=20
> Thats, if I am not mistaken, the reason for pkg complaining =
'pkg-static: knot3-lib-3.3.3_1 conflicts with knot3-3.3.3_1 (installs =
files into the same place).'
>=20
> Thus, IMHO, both ports dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver cannot be =
installed simultaneously. One could install them in different jails, but =
that is not an option for me.
>=20
> Possible solutions:
>=20
> 1) dns/knot3-lib should store its libraries and includes into a =
different location as dns/knot3 does
A variation of that is that dns/knot-resolver has its own files
in its own locations for such, no dns/knot3-lib port involved.
> 2) discard dns/knot3-lib and make dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver =
mutually dependent
> 3) =E2=80=A6?
"..." might be: dns/knot3 uses the files from dns/knot3-lib instead of
installing its own and so has both a build dependency on dns/knot3-lib
and a run-time dependency on dns/knot3-lib . dns/knot-resolver also
then has such ( and no dependency on dns/knot3 ). The run-time =
dependency
leads to installation of either dns/knot3 or dns/knot-resolver first
installing dns/knot3-lib if it is not already installed. Uninstalling
dns/knot3-lib would lead to both dns/knot3 or dns/knot-resolver being
uninstalled if both were installed. The build time dependencies lead to
dns/knot3-lib being built first and being installed before builds of
either dns/knot3 or dns/knot-resolver if dns/knot3-lib is not already
installed. (In poudriere such build time install of dns/knot3-lib is
temporary and internal to the build activity.)
This allows both dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver to be installed
in the same jail "simultaneously". (It does not matter which is
installed first vs. second in the sequence of installs.)
I do not know which way is simpler to support. That likely is dependent
on details I'm ignorant of. All look to be technically possible.
> I am not an expert in ports internals, thus: what would the best way =
to solve this issue?
>=20
=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
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Tatsuki Makino wrote on 2024/02/23 17:58:
> Might need pkg delete -f -g alsa-plugins-\* because it causes file conflicts?
In the case of pkg-1.20.9, It seems that alsa-plugins-* is not a glob pattern that picks out the intended package.
Others like alsa-plugins-\?\* or alsa-plugins-\[^-\]\* are also no good.
Using alsa-plugins-\[a-z\]\* is as intended.
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Tatsuki Makino wrote on 2024/02/27 08:48:
> Tatsuki Makino wrote on 2024/02/23 17:58:
>> Might need pkg delete -f -g alsa-plugins-\* because it causes file conflicts?
> In the case of pkg-1.20.9, It seems that alsa-plugins-* is not a glob pattern that picks out the intended package.
> Others like alsa-plugins-\?\* or alsa-plugins-\[^-\]\* are also no good.
> Using alsa-plugins-\[a-z\]\* is as intended.
This meant that the pattern matched the package version number... :)
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On 2024-02-23 15:05, Gleb Popov wrote:
Hi Gleb,
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 5:51 AM Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The current in-tree port of mame, 0.261, is built around the core
>> multi-emulation framework, which results in the usual mega monolithic
>> mame binary. There are options for TOOLS, which include two other
>> emulators. The current upstream release, 0.262 has enabled separation of
>> mame from the rest of the project—TOOLS can now be built separately. I
>> would like to reflect this in the Port, however, that means moving the
>> two added emulators (LaserDisk player, and Netlist resolver) out of
>> TOOLS (which I think the correct path to take). Considering the new
>> upstream build pattern, I would like to configure the Port to option any
>> of the emulators, and existing TOOLS. The problem I am facing, the three
>> emulators require the same (or close to it) runtime config/resources,
>> the assets are currently covered by the do-install target[1], how do I
>> cover the assets in the Port, specifically in the pkg-plist to be
>> conditioned on either of 3 potential emulator options? Should I add an
>> option MAMEDATA?
>
> You're almost right. Indeed there is no need in the user-visible
> option, but you want all other machinery to kick in.
> Basically, it boils down to
>
> .if somecond
> PLIST_SUB+= MAMEDATA=
> .else
> PLIST_SUB+= MAMEDATA="@comment "
> .endif
The mess I have at the moment.
> where "somecond" defines if the files should be present in the
> package. For OPTIONS (and when OPTIONS_SUB=yes is present [1]) it
> happens automatically.
>
> If you end up with "somecond" being in form "${PORT_OPTIONS:MFOO} ||
> ${PORT_OPTIONS:MBAR}" then you could simplify it even more
>
> FOO_PLIST_SUB= MAMEDATA=
> FOO_PLIST_SUB_OFF= MAMEDATA="@comment "
> BAR_PLIST_SUB= MAMEDATA=
> BAR_PLIST_SUB_OFF= MAMEDATA="@comment "
This is brilliant, I think I was getting confused with the documentation
referring to OPTIONS/OPT for conditioning PLIST, and an User visible
option is what I wanted to avoid. I am testing this now, and it is far
more elegant, however, I do not know how that translates to Makefile
targets, like do-install-NON_USER_FACING_OPT-on. Currently the Makefile
target is of the ".if somecond FOO= .else BAR= .endif" form.
Thanks a billion!
Alastair
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Hi,
I submitted a PR back in November 2023 with a patch to update owl-lisp
from v0.1.23 to v0.2.2. At the moment, the port is orphaned and I'm
interested in adopting.
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=275337
// Paco
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>
> however, I do not know how that translates to Makefile
> targets, like do-install-NON_USER_FACING_OPT-on. Currently the Makefile
> target is of the ".if somecond FOO=3D .else BAR=3D .endif" form.
I'm afraid you'd still have to write
post-install:
.if ${PORT_OPTIONS:MFOO} || ${PORT_OPTIONS:MBAR}
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for optionalizing targets.
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Subject: Re: dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver do not get along with
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Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2024, at 01:06, Michael Grimm <trashcan@ellael.org> wrote:
>> Possible solutions:
>>=20
>> 1) dns/knot3-lib should store its libraries and includes into a =
different location as dns/knot3 does
>=20
> A variation of that is that dns/knot-resolver has its own files
> in its own locations for such, no dns/knot3-lib port involved.
>=20
>> 2) discard dns/knot3-lib and make dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver =
mutually dependent
>> 3) =E2=80=A6?
>=20
> "..." might be: dns/knot3 uses the files from dns/knot3-lib instead of
> installing its own and so has both a build dependency on dns/knot3-lib
> and a run-time dependency on dns/knot3-lib . dns/knot-resolver also
> then has such ( and no dependency on dns/knot3 ). The run-time =
dependency
> leads to installation of either dns/knot3 or dns/knot-resolver first
> installing dns/knot3-lib if it is not already installed. Uninstalling
> dns/knot3-lib would lead to both dns/knot3 or dns/knot-resolver being
> uninstalled if both were installed. The build time dependencies lead =
to
> dns/knot3-lib being built first and being installed before builds of
> either dns/knot3 or dns/knot-resolver if dns/knot3-lib is not already
> installed. (In poudriere such build time install of dns/knot3-lib is
> temporary and internal to the build activity.)
>=20
> This allows both dns/knot3 and dns/knot-resolver to be installed
> in the same jail "simultaneously". (It does not matter which is
> installed first vs. second in the sequence of installs.)
>=20
> I do not know which way is simpler to support. That likely is =
dependent
> on details I'm ignorant of. All look to be technically possible.
FYI: I do prefer your "=E2=80=A6" solution and opened =
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D277332
Thanks for your input and kind regards,
Michael
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obs-studio-30.0.2_1
HTTP Error 404 (Not found) on www-site:
eteroj-lv2-0.10.0_1 geonkick-lv2-2.10.0 lv2lint-0.16.2_2
midi-matrix-lv2-0.28.0_1 moony-lv2-0.36.0_1 orbit-lv2-0.1.661
py39-hsaudiotag3k-1.1.3.p1 sherlock-lv2-0.28.0_2 timely-lv2-g20190412_1
vm-lv2-0.14.0_2 graphlan-1.1.3_1 GroopM-0.3.4_4 thrust-1.9.5_1
py39-ta-lib-0.4.28 cmh-1.1.1_3 FlintQS-1.0
coin-or-flopc++-1.2.5.20200527_1 moab-5.3.1_5 mpfrcx-0.6.3_1
paritwine-0.1_3 vinci-1.0.5 ironscanner-1.1.0.20180828 sdformat-8.0.0_6
clash-1.18.0_2 dftd3-3.2.0.3_1 dftd4-3.5.0_1 octopus-13.0_1
openbabel-3.1.1.178 opsin-3.0.20190223_1 py39-dftd4-3.5.0
py39-openbabel-3.1.1.1 py39-phono3py-1.22.3_2 py39-pyked-0.4.1.16_1
xdrawchem-1.11.0.2_2 ntk-1.3.1001_1 redkite-1.3.1
Unresolvable www-site:
libpcl-1.12 geogram-1.7.9 daggy-2.1.3_1 silicon-0.1.124 ztoolkit-0.1.2_2
It also produces more detailed error logs on stderr.
I hope it will be useful to others.
I needed this because I have another program that mass checks Python ports for unreported vulnerabilities,
which needs an up-to-date and correct information in the ports Index to be relevant...
Best regards,
Hubert
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<p>Hello there!<br>
</p>
<p>I made a small program that perhaps may be of interest to some
port maintainers.</p>
<p>It's called portlint2 (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/HubTou/portlint2">https://github.com/HubTou/portlint2</a>), and
it checks the ports Index file and the port's makefiles, for the
whole port tree, or for selected categories / maintainers / ports.<br>
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<p>On a freshly updated port Index and port tree, it will produce a
summary of findings like this:<br>
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<pre>Selected 34434 ports out of 34434 in the FreeBSD port tree, and found:
4 ports with unusual installation-prefix (warning)
339 ports with a comment string exceeding 70 characters (warning)
286 ports with an uncapitalized comment
11 ports comment ending with a dot
108 ports with a comment different between the Index and Makefile
2 ports with non existent description-file
4 ports with a maintainer different between the Index and Makefile
34 ports referring to unofficial categories (warning)
262 ports with categories different between the Index and Makefile
1251 ports with no www-site
300 ports with an unresolvable www-site hostname
658 ports with an unaccessible www-site
2 ports with a www-site different betwwen the Index and makefile
There are other checks, but it only prints summary lines for those with 1+ occurrences.
Before this summary, it prints a list of affected ports per maintainer, for example like this:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:yuri@FreeBSD.org">yuri@FreeBSD.org</a>:
Diverging comments:
jamulus-server-3.10.0 RStudio-2022.12.0+353_6
RStudio-server-2022.12.0+353_6 qbittorrent-nox-4.6.3
Too long comments:
py39-pytest4-flakes-4.0.1 py39-spectral-0.22.4_1
Uncapitalized comments:
shunit2-2.1.8.93 libmicrodns-0.2.0 py39-mmcif-0.84 hq-1.0.1_9
ibus-m17n-1.4.28 jaq-1.3.0_1
Diverging categories:
obs-studio-30.0.2_1
HTTP Error 404 (Not found) on www-site:
eteroj-lv2-0.10.0_1 geonkick-lv2-2.10.0 lv2lint-0.16.2_2
midi-matrix-lv2-0.28.0_1 moony-lv2-0.36.0_1 orbit-lv2-0.1.661
py39-hsaudiotag3k-1.1.3.p1 sherlock-lv2-0.28.0_2 timely-lv2-g20190412_1
vm-lv2-0.14.0_2 graphlan-1.1.3_1 GroopM-0.3.4_4 thrust-1.9.5_1
py39-ta-lib-0.4.28 cmh-1.1.1_3 FlintQS-1.0
coin-or-flopc++-1.2.5.20200527_1 moab-5.3.1_5 mpfrcx-0.6.3_1
paritwine-0.1_3 vinci-1.0.5 ironscanner-1.1.0.20180828 sdformat-8.0.0_6
clash-1.18.0_2 dftd3-3.2.0.3_1 dftd4-3.5.0_1 octopus-13.0_1
openbabel-3.1.1.178 opsin-3.0.20190223_1 py39-dftd4-3.5.0
py39-openbabel-3.1.1.1 py39-phono3py-1.22.3_2 py39-pyked-0.4.1.16_1
xdrawchem-1.11.0.2_2 ntk-1.3.1001_1 redkite-1.3.1
Unresolvable www-site:
libpcl-1.12 geogram-1.7.9 daggy-2.1.3_1 silicon-0.1.124 ztoolkit-0.1.2_2
It also produces more detailed error logs on stderr.
I hope it will be useful to others.
I needed this because I have another program that mass checks Python ports for unreported vulnerabilities,
which needs an up-to-date and correct information in the ports Index to be relevant...
Best regards,
Hubert
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On 2024-02-27 09:50, Hubert Tournier wrote:
> Hello there!
>
> I made a small program that perhaps may be of interest to some port
> maintainers.
>
> It's called portlint2 (https://github.com/HubTou/portlint2), and it checks
> the
> ports Index file and the port's makefiles, for the whole port tree, or for
> selected categories / maintainers / ports.
>
> On a freshly updated port Index and port tree, it will produce a summary of
> findings like this:
>
> Selected 34434 ports out of 34434 in the FreeBSD port tree, and found:
> 4 ports with unusual installation-prefix (warning)
> 339 ports with a comment string exceeding 70 characters (warning)
> 286 ports with an uncapitalized comment
> 11 ports comment ending with a dot
> 108 ports with a comment different between the Index and Makefile
> 2 ports with non existent description-file
> 4 ports with a maintainer different between the Index and Makefile
> 34 ports referring to unofficial categories (warning)
> 262 ports with categories different between the Index and Makefile
> 1251 ports with no www-site
> 300 ports with an unresolvable www-site hostname
> 658 ports with an unaccessible www-site
> 2 ports with a www-site different betwwen the Index and makefile
>
> There are other checks, but it only prints summary lines for those with 1+
> occurrences.
>
> Before this summary, it prints a list of affected ports per maintainer, for
> example like this:
>
> yuri@FreeBSD.org:
> Diverging comments:
> jamulus-server-3.10.0 RStudio-2022.12.0+353_6
> RStudio-server-2022.12.0+353_6 qbittorrent-nox-4.6.3
> Too long comments:
> py39-pytest4-flakes-4.0.1 py39-spectral-0.22.4_1
> Uncapitalized comments:
> shunit2-2.1.8.93 libmicrodns-0.2.0 py39-mmcif-0.84 hq-1.0.1_9
> ibus-m17n-1.4.28 jaq-1.3.0_1
> Diverging categories:
> obs-studio-30.0.2_1
> HTTP Error 404 (Not found) on www-site:
> eteroj-lv2-0.10.0_1 geonkick-lv2-2.10.0 lv2lint-0.16.2_2
> midi-matrix-lv2-0.28.0_1 moony-lv2-0.36.0_1 orbit-lv2-0.1.661
> py39-hsaudiotag3k-1.1.3.p1 sherlock-lv2-0.28.0_2
> timely-lv2-g20190412_1
> vm-lv2-0.14.0_2 graphlan-1.1.3_1 GroopM-0.3.4_4 thrust-1.9.5_1
> py39-ta-lib-0.4.28 cmh-1.1.1_3 FlintQS-1.0
> coin-or-flopc++-1.2.5.20200527_1 moab-5.3.1_5 mpfrcx-0.6.3_1
> paritwine-0.1_3 vinci-1.0.5 ironscanner-1.1.0.20180828
> sdformat-8.0.0_6
> clash-1.18.0_2 dftd3-3.2.0.3_1 dftd4-3.5.0_1 octopus-13.0_1
> openbabel-3.1.1.178 opsin-3.0.20190223_1 py39-dftd4-3.5.0
> py39-openbabel-3.1.1.1 py39-phono3py-1.22.3_2 py39-pyked-0.4.1.16_1
> xdrawchem-1.11.0.2_2 ntk-1.3.1001_1 redkite-1.3.1
> Unresolvable www-site:
> libpcl-1.12 geogram-1.7.9 daggy-2.1.3_1 silicon-0.1.124
> ztoolkit-0.1.2_2
>
> It also produces more detailed error logs on stderr.
>
> I hope it will be useful to others.
>
> I needed this because I have another program that mass checks Python ports
> for
> unreported vulnerabilities,
> which needs an up-to-date and correct information in the ports Index to be
> relevant...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hubert
While I haven't (yet) tried it out. I'm grateful for your work. It'll
potentially save a
bunch of work, Thanks!
Shouldn't this make it to ports-mgmt/ as portlinter?
Thanks again.
--
--Chris Hutchinson
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Hello,
Le 27/02/2024 à 23:54, Chris a écrit :
> On 2024-02-27 09:50, Hubert Tournier wrote:
>> It's called portlint2 (https://github.com/HubTou/portlint2), and it
>> checks the
>> ports Index file and the port's makefiles, for the whole port tree,
>> or for
>> selected categories / maintainers / ports.
> While I haven't (yet) tried it out. I'm grateful for your work. It'll
> potentially save a
> bunch of work, Thanks!
There's an example of output on a whole up-to-date port tree and index
there:
   https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stdout.txt
   https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stderr.txt
And an example run on your own 171 ports here:
   https://www.frbsd.org/xch/chris.txt
On a not up-to-date index, you would notice lots of non existing
port-path and description-file, which is what caught my eye in the first
place.
That's because the portsnap method that I use to sync my port tree
doesn't update the Index at all.
The tool design is modular, so if additional checks are useful to
someone, they could probably be added quite easily (use the GitHub page
for these interactions).
> Shouldn't this make it to ports-mgmt/ as portlinter?
If it's deemed useful, I could make the port next week-end.
Best regards,
Hubert
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Hello,
Le 27/02/2024 à 23:54, Chris a écrit :
> On 2024-02-27 09:50, Hubert Tournier wrote:
>> It's called portlint2 (https://github.com/HubTou/portlint2), and it
>> checks the
>> ports Index file and the port's makefiles, for the whole port tree,
>> or for
>> selected categories / maintainers / ports.
> While I haven't (yet) tried it out. I'm grateful for your work. It'll
> potentially save a
> bunch of work, Thanks!
There's an example of output on a whole up-to-date port tree and index
there:
   https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stdout.txt
   https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stderr.txt
And an example run on your own 171 ports here:
   https://www.frbsd.org/xch/chris.txt
On a not up-to-date index, you would notice lots of non existing
port-path and description-file, which is what caught my eye in the first
place.
That's because the portsnap method that I use to sync my port tree
doesn't update the Index at all.
The tool design is modular, so if additional checks are useful to
someone, they could probably be added quite easily (use the GitHub page
for these interactions).
> Shouldn't this make it to ports-mgmt/ as portlinter?
If it's deemed useful, I could make the port next week-end.
Best regards,
Hubert
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>> Shouldn't this make it to ports-mgmt/ as portlinter?
>
> If it's deemed useful, I could make the port next week-end.
If you do that, I suggest to use a name which makes it clear that it is
not a replacement for portlint (which operates on 1 port), and that
makes it clear that it operates on the whole tree. Maybe portstreelint,
or portstreecheck, or ptlint, or ptcheck, or whatever, but not
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Hello everyone,
While working on moving the man pages I made a mistake with the mtree
which has caused mass build failures with the errors like the following:
install: /wrkdirs/usr/ports/../../work/stage/usr/local/share/pixmaps/*: =
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This was caused by this commit:
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And this was also fixed by antoine@ on the same day:
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Seeing from the time line and how much our builder takes to build the
sets you might receive the messages for one more day. Just ignore it for
now and no need to add any MKDIR directives.
Sorry for the noise.
Kind regards,
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Dear ports community,
as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we
would like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters
handbook.
We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and
keeping unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree
forever.
When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?
This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be
removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a
port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed.
In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed
so that progress can be made. For more details see below.
Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:
- Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not
count as "available")
- Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
- BROKEN for more than 6 months
- has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree for
more than 3 months
A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
- Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development.
DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know.
(It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately
after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with
backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting
patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL
versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months
without justification.
- The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
- Software hasn’t seen a release in a long time
- Upstream looks inactive for a long time
Florian (on behalf of portmgr)
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 2:22=E2=80=AFPM Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org> wr=
ote:
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
> to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
Does this include special cases such as the following comment in
devel/aegis/Makefile (which I am the maintainer of and since the
upstream is "dead" it was a single person who died in 2012)?
# XXX Manpages are installed into ${DATADIR} too -- there's no easy way to
# stop this because we don't have Makefile.am provided. Maintainer wil=
l
# sort this with upstream.
Note I have updated everything to be built with the latest llvm and stuff.
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To: Florian Smeets <flo@FreeBSD.org>, ports@freebsd.org
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On 28/02/2024 20:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:
>
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not
> count as "available")
I miss some sort of time frame like in the following cases. The way the
sentence is written now, it looks like there may be an immediate removal
on the first day of the outage.
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree for
> more than 3 months
Kind regards
Miroslav Lachman
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On 28.02.24 21:00, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> On 28/02/2024 20:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
>
>> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is
>> met:
>>
>> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
>> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do
>> not count as "available")
>
> I miss some sort of time frame like in the following cases. The way the
> sentence is written now, it looks like there may be an immediate removal
> on the first day of the outage.
>
Good point. Yeah, it certainly isn't the intention to remove it
immediately. I will make a note to add a time frame. I'm thinking 4
weeks, as that feels long for a site to go away and reappear, but we
might just make it 3 months as with most of the other points.
Thanks
Florian
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From: Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org>
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> On 28. Feb 2024, at 20:22, Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFDear ports community,
>=20
> as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we w=
ould like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters handb=
ook.
>=20
> We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and kee=
ping unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree forever.=
>=20
> When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?
>=20
> This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be remov=
ed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a port bloc=
ks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed. In general, if=
a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed so that progress c=
an be made. For more details see below.
>=20
>=20
Hi Flo,
Thanks for the effort, it=E2=80=99s a delicate topic for many.
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met=
:
>=20
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original source/mirror=
(Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not count as "availab=
le")
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports tr=
ee for more than 3 months
>=20
>=20
> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>=20
By whom though? Portmgr? Any committer?
> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development. DEP=
RECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know. (It is up=
to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately after the EOL=
date or if they want keep the port for some time with backported patches. O=
ption two is *not* possible without backporting patches, see vulnerable port=
s) The general suggestion is that EOL versions should not stay in the ports t=
ree for more than 3 months without justification.
How many ports in the tree would be affected by this policy at the moment?
Does =E2=80=9CEOL versions=E2=80=9C also affect software where there are no n=
ew versions available (like, development officially stopped a long time ago o=
r there was a license change, the project was archived etc.), or just outdat=
ed versions of software that is still under development? In any case, three m=
onths seems relatively short.
I=E2=80=99m maintaining a couple of ports where upstream officially stopped d=
evelopment, but which are still super useful (so they=E2=80=99re not just pa=
rt of my personal software museum/there for sentimental reasons).
Best
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE, MANPR=
EFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set to DEPREC=
ATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
>=20
>=20
> Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
>=20
> - Software hasn=E2=80=99t seen a release in a long time
> - Upstream looks inactive for a long time
>=20
> Florian (on behalf of portmgr)
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On 28.02.24 22:09, Charlie Li wrote:
> Florian Smeets wrote:
>> This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be
>> removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if
>> a port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently
>> removed. In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will
>> be removed so that progress can be made. For more details see below.
>>
> The phrasing "blocks progress" is problematic. Progress of what?
> Indiscriminately hunting down EOL/apparently inactive software? Mass
> migrating from one build system to another due to primarily personal
> preference, even against upstreams' will? This phrasing is vague enough
> to justify deprecating and removing, say EOL (but still fetchable and
> buildable) libraries needed by actively-maintained and supported (and
> popular) software that are in no rush to migrate away. If this vagueness
> is intended, then it needs to be accompanied with *us* actively
> developing in the upstream project to support efforts here.
The sentence you refer to is just a rough summary of what is described
in more detail further down. e.g.
>> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
>> MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be
>> set to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
>>
> These reasons are good on first read but the premise needs to be worked
> in earlier. Also need to consider actively-maintained and supported
> software that happen to use EOL dependencies.
>
I don't understand what you are trying to say with the first sentence.
It's kind of implicit that we will not allow removal of libraries that
still have (lots of) ports depending on them with this policy. But we
should probably make this explicit. I'll add a note and come up with
something.
Thanks
Florian
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On 2024-02-28 11:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
> Dear ports community,
>
> as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we
> would
> like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters handbook.
>
> We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and
> keeping
> unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree forever.
>
> When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?
>
> This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be
> removed. In
> general ports should not be removed without reason but if a port blocks
> progress
> it should be deprecated and subsequently removed. In general, if a ports
> blocks
> progress for some time it will be removed so that progress can be made. For
> more
> details see below.
>
>
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:
>
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original source/mirror
> (Our
> and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not count as "available")
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree for
> more than 3 months
>
>
> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>
> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development.
> DEPRECATED
> should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know. (It is up to the
> maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately after the EOL date or
> if
> they want keep the port for some time with backported patches. Option two is
> *not*
> possible without backporting patches, see vulnerable ports) The general
> suggestion
> is that EOL versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3
> months
> without justification.
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> MANPREFIX,
> compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set to DEPRECATED
> after 3
> months and can be removed after 6
>
>
> Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
>
> - Software hasn’t seen a release in a long time
> - Upstream looks inactive for a long time
>
> Florian (on behalf of portmgr)
Thank you very much for your attempt to set precedence in this area. Your
proposal seems
well tempered and prudent. Thank you. Consider this a "+1" from me. :)
--Chris
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--Chris Hutchinson
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From: Chris <portmaster@bsdforge.com>
To: Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org>
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Subject: Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy
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On 2024-02-28 12:13, Florian Smeets wrote:
> On 28.02.24 21:00, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
>> On 28/02/2024 20:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
>>
>>> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is
>>> met:
>>>
>>> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original source/mirror
>>> (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not count as
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>>
>> I miss some sort of time frame like in the following cases. The way the
>> sentence is written now, it looks like there may be an immediate removal on
>> the first day of the outage.
>>
>
> Good point. Yeah, it certainly isn't the intention to remove it immediately.
> I
> will make a note to add a time frame. I'm thinking 4 weeks, as that feels
> long for
> a site to go away and reappear, but we might just make it 3 months as with
> most of
> the other points.
I'd vote for 3 (mos). But 2 also seems reasonable. So that those that use it.
But don't
update frequently get a chance to notice, and subsequently save/maintain it.
:)
>
> Thanks
> Florian
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On 28.02.24 22:18, Michael Gmelin wrote:
>
>
>> On 28. Feb 2024, at 20:22, Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Flo,
>
> Thanks for the effort, it’s a delicate topic for many.
It is, we're tying our best and put some thought into it in the last
coupe of weeks.
>
>> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:
>>
>> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not count as "available")
>> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
>> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
>> - has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree for more than 3 months
>>
>>
>> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>>
>
> By whom though? Portmgr? Any committer?
Yes, this is a tough one. Obviously, first it's the maintainers job. If
it's broken, vulnerable, etc. anybody can set DEPRECATED and remove it
once it expires. How I saw this policy while writing it was as a
guideline for maintainers and committers. Not something to allow
committers to remove stuff at will that might fall under one of these
points. But it will certainly be used to justify the start of glib20
deprecation and subsequent removal, for example. But that is a topic for
another day ;)
>
>> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development. DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know. (It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months without justification.
>
> How many ports in the tree would be affected by this policy at the moment?
Honestly, I don't know. I'm not on a witch hunt for them. The policy is
looking to make it easier to remove old stuff that hinders progress. If
it's actively maintained, builds and is not vulnerable there should not
be an issue. We are trying to make ports a bit more sustainable with the
resources we have. e.g. look at the last PRs for the clang/LLVM updates.
>
> Does “EOL versions“ also affect software where there are no new versions available (like, development officially stopped a long time ago or there was a license change, the project was archived etc.), or just outdated versions of software that is still under development? In any case, three months seems relatively short.
>
> I’m maintaining a couple of ports where upstream officially stopped development, but which are still super useful (so they’re not just part of my personal software museum/there for sentimental reasons).
That is why we have lots of shoulds in the policy. Some of the policies
might have been written with server software in mind too much that have
different versions in parallel. e.g. PHP, asterisk, etc.
And yes, ports remaining or becoming more of a software museum is one of
the things we want to combat with the policy to become more sustainable.
Florian
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On 2/28/24 12:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
> Dear ports community,
>
> as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we
> would like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters
> handbook.
>
> We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and
> keeping unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree
> forever.
Not otherwise mentioned in this post, there is value in considering
the difference between unmaintained upstream, unmaintained from an
inactive port maintainer, unmaintained from an interested port
maintainer that is unable to solve the problems they have been presented
with or find helpers who did, and unmaintained due to no maintainer for
the port.
Is there a recommendation, and way to go about it, for port
maintainers to preemptively mention extended away time like
vacation/holiday or longer?
> When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?
>
> This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be
> removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a
> port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed.
> In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed
> so that progress can be made. For more details see below.
I presume 'progress' means things like 'blocks ports framework
updates' as cases were mentioned of later, but was this the intent?
Removing a port that causes conflict building/installing another could
be considered progress.
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:
>
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not
> count as "available")
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
As some ports don't really have a WWW this may be a bit harsh in
special cases where community interaction beyond source code is through
a mailing list, chatroom, discord, etc. Some websites may be neglected
or left to expire due to little interest from who ran it even though a
project isn't similarly dead.
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
Presume this is a 'broken for everyone on supported FreeBSD releases'
though should probably also include stable and current before deletion
can happen.
I have seen results, besides just a 'BROKEN' being set, from ports
with maintainers that had a PR with a maintainer's patch that fixed a
problem go for months without being committed. I hope a rush to
mark/remove ports as this email implies would lead to more efficient
flow rather than creating more work by actions that would be a mistake
in such cases.
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree for
> more than 3 months
Will the scope of a vulnerability be considered? As an example,
removing virtualbox because of a network vulnerability means users who
do not need such capability lost the port too.
Trying to follow CVEs has made it clear to me that some end up being
bugs or possibly unexpected program operation that doesn't seem to have
any known example of how the bug is even a security issue.
> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>
> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development.
> DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know.
> (It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately
> after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with
> backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting
> patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL
> versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months
> without justification.
Are we thinking of 'old version' cases such as python27, or even
cases where upstream EOL'd the project as a whole? Would it be handled
differently if an alternative exists or not and if an alternative
community can be switched to for further project coordination?
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
> to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
Some ports are not hier compatible in general even though they are
still useful ports. How are exceptions to be decided? Are they marked as
an exception in the Makefile?
> Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
>
> - Software hasn’t seen a release in a long time
> - Upstream looks inactive for a long time
>
> Florian (on behalf of portmgr)
No maintainer + no upstream maintenance when issues have arisen
(security, build, infrastructure compatibility) seems like a good time
for marking for removal as a general concept though it seems many ports
I use, or just try out, regularly don't have maintainers. As issues
arise, people often step up and report them or fix them as nonmaintainer
which then get committed. I feel I'm not the best choice for maintainer
as I am not active enough and often find I go periods where I don't pay
active attention; my email often goes through phases where it doesn't
get looked at if I'm not actively looking for something. I also found
through experience that simple porting problems often go beyond my
abilities.
Some ports would likely benefit from just having a maintainer as
someone who coordinates the effort to keep it working even creating the
port+patches is beyond them. This could be a point of failure if they
recommend submitted patches be committed without requesting outside help
reviewing them such as for safety. Could we document more clearly if
such a maintainer is desired and if it is, even recommend it in the
all-too-common 'this port has no maintainer' messages?
Similarly, pkg could really benefit from listing that message once
with a list of ports it applies to as I find the messages basically just
become noise at this point.
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On 2/28/24 12:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
> Dear ports community,
>
> as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we
> would like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters
> handbook.
If it is clear that guidelines could be interrupted/altered as
discussion opens up and that it isn't necessarily a set in stone process
as a result, it can put people's mind at ease that efforts are being
organized instead of people are just trying to stomp out things in a
quick and concise manner at the first justifiable chance.
I have and still use a python2 dependent program that is so niche
that I never saw it hit the ports tree (and didn't like my own porting
effort's results). I have not yet successfully migrated to a non python2
solution successfully; I lost all upstream support as others moved on to
new shiny things which I hope to do someday but they aren't direct
replacements. Obviously no one would keep python2 in ports for my case
then, but I did benefit from others having reasons that kept it there. I
also know that without, I could setup an old ports tree, and package
lock/jail/virtual machine my way through the problem.
Watching the python2 deprecation/removals kick into gear felt like a
weird clash between maintainer and user community. Looking back, I
wonder if a different solution of 'let someone else become maintainer'
may have been better since it was being triggered by an EOL instead of
vulnerabilities and broken builds.
Can EOL upstream case be clarified for when an upstream is required
and what meets said upstream? Some upstreams don't accept patches and
others seem to only fix things based on outside submitted patches. That
seems to blur the lines between upstream, community, and port maintainer
for who can do things. I figure my more extreme example above of python2
had a fight that EOL was important as vulnerabilities were common enough
and project was big enough that 1 or a few people would not be able to
guarantee a safe+working state; As safe is 'never' guaranteed anyways
which makes it more confusing there.
I forgot to mention it, but am still thankful for all who make the
ports tree happen: maintainers, users who submit PRs with/without
patches, general committers, and those who organize all of this
structure and flow. Though not perfect, all of that effort has lead to
making it a generally great experience over the years that I have used it.
> We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and
> keeping unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree
> forever.
>
> When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?
>
> This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be
> removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a
> port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed.
> In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed
> so that progress can be made. For more details see below.
>
>
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:
>
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not
> count as "available")
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree for
> more than 3 months
>
>
> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>
> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development.
> DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know.
> (It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately
> after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with
> backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting
> patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL
> versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months
> without justification.
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
> to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
>
>
> Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
>
> - Software hasn’t seen a release in a long time
> - Upstream looks inactive for a long time
>
> Florian (on behalf of portmgr)
>
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On 2/28/24 14:38, Chris wrote:
> On 2024-02-28 12:13, Florian Smeets wrote:
>> On 28.02.24 21:00, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
>>> On 28/02/2024 20:22, Florian Smeets wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions
>>>> is met:
>>>>
>>>> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
>>>> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do
>>>> not count as "available")
>>>
>>> I miss some sort of time frame like in the following cases. The way
>>> the sentence is written now, it looks like there may be an immediate
>>> removal on the first day of the outage.
>>>
>>
>> Good point. Yeah, it certainly isn't the intention to remove it
>> immediately. I
>> will make a note to add a time frame. I'm thinking 4 weeks, as that
>> feels long for
>> a site to go away and reappear, but we might just make it 3 months as
>> with most of
>> the other points.
> I'd vote for 3 (mos). But 2 also seems reasonable. So that those that
> use it. But don't
> update frequently get a chance to notice, and subsequently save/maintain
> it. :)
In general, a port could always be pulled back out of a death that
happens too early as the ports tree history is always available. The
'saving' makes sense both for a webpage (especially if valid WWW is
'required', which seems debatable and unlikely).
A different take on 'saving' a (port, is availability can be
interrupted; I build my own packages with poudriere+latest but a
quarterly package user may be hit with it disappearing unexpectedly
depending on when it gets marked, if that mark is applied to their
quarterly branch (committers are human so if its not automated, it will
likely happen at some point), when the next quarterly/latest build
finishes so that package users see it through message or package
deletion. Then if it wasn't already deleted yet, pkg users for sure find
out when it is and removed. Once that point is reached, users then have
to wait for the port to be restored to the appropriate branch and the
next build run to rebuild it; conditionally, users of quarterly branches
are the ones to have the least time/chance to react and likely the most
time to wait for a resolution when undone/resolved.
Do 'scheduled' announcement and action times ever correspond (close)
to or account for when builds complete on pkg repositories and when next
quarterly update sequence occurs instead of when a Makefile is altered?
If the intent is to inform users with a timeframe before action occurs
then it is important to make sure the last event that could delay that
information going out is considered for scheduling purposes; maybe an
automated (or documented committer checklist) check should be
implemented that confirms the date it hit the last relevant repository
branch/mirror before the next step is performed.
Remember that pkg users don't see "broken" unless dependencies were
updated without it which causes removal instead of a message; only fix I
see here would be like MOVED file but for scheduled/upcoming changes to
be announced from. That would also require it be presented before or
during delete or tracking non-automatic packages being removed without a
deliberate `pkg delete` so it can be prompted from information
introduced later.
>> Thanks
>> Florian
>
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Friedman <aryehfriedman@gmail=
.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 2:22=E2=80=AFPM Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org> =
wrote:
> > - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> > MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
> > to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
>
> Does this include special cases such as the following comment in
> devel/aegis/Makefile (which I am the maintainer of and since the
> upstream is "dead" it was a single person who died in 2012)?
>
> # XXX Manpages are installed into ${DATADIR} too -- there's no easy way t=
o
> # stop this because we don't have Makefile.am provided. Maintainer w=
ill
> # sort this with upstream.
>
> Note I have updated everything to be built with the latest llvm and stuff=
.
>
That comment was written well before we had staging support and it is
simple enough to delete unwanted files from STAGEDIR before they are
packaged, but I'm not seeing any manpages in DATADIR anyways, so that
comment seems irrelevant. This port was fixed in [1] to install the
manpages in share/man, so I don't think there is a problem.
Unfortunately, some projects die with their authors, but if you still
find the project useful and are willing to maintain it and keep it
working with the latest libraries and llvm updates, I don't see why it
would be up for removal and don't get that vibe from this policy. With
all of the patches though, it might be worthwhile to make a fork of
the project and create a new release.
[1] https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/?id=3D85dbd77161c397abe4bcd384e61=
17096ff27d97c
-Jason
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Subject: Poudriere broken!!!
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Hi,
I=E2=80=99m using poudriere-devel and it=E2=80=99s completely broken =
now!!!!
The web UI looks modern and actually works. Safari always had a problem =
not updating with info about ongoing builds, that=E2=80=99s fixed now.
How am I supposed to work with something like this, when I=E2=80=99ve =
gotten used to the old UI?!? I=E2=80=99m starting a petition to bring =
back the old broken poudriere UI!
Only joking, I love the new UI. Great work!
.einar=
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Florian Smeets <flo@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is me=
t:
>
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do
> not count as "available")
Strong disagree, give the maintainer a chance to find an alternate
mirror or self-host.
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
That's the opposite of immediate removal
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
Agree but that's hardly immediate
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports t=
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> for more than 3 months
Agree but that's hardly immediate
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> Florian Smeets <flo@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> > Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is me=
> t:
> >
> > - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> > source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do
> > not count as "available")
>
> Strong disagree, give the maintainer a chance to find an alternate
> mirror or self-host.
+1
>
> > - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
>
> That's the opposite of immediate removal
>
> > - BROKEN for more than 6 months
>
> Agree but that's hardly immediate
>
> > - has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports t=
> ree
> > for more than 3 months
>
> Agree but that's hardly immediate
>
> DES
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:22=E2=80=AFAM Florian Smeets <flo@freebsd.org> w=
rote:
> Dear ports community,
>
> as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we
> would like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters
> handbook.
>
> We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and
> keeping unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree
> forever.
>
> When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?
>
> This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be
> removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a
> port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed.
> In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed
> so that progress can be made. For more details see below.
>
>
> Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is me=
t:
>
> - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not
> count as "available")
>
I have no objection with removing a port if upstream all died and nobody
cared, but removing them "immediately" seems to be too harsh and not
friendly for smaller software vendors. For example, bzip2 got their domain
name stolen, but the project didn't really die and continued at
sourceware.org. Please give the maintainer some time (e.g. by marking the
port as DEPRECATED with a timeout time, maybe two weeks, maybe a month or
even 3 months).
> - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
>
Could you please explain why upstream WWW would warrant a removal? (I
think removing the WWW=3D entry if the website is compromised or is no long=
er
available is perfectly fine, but why remove the port itself?)
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
>
I think if a port won't build on any of the official FreeBSD.org
package cluster, the port is marked BROKEN with a deprecation period of 6
months (personally I think it's too long, 3 months should be the maximum).
This should include ports that are IGNORED for all supported platforms and
conditionally broken with all supported defaults: they should have correct
dependency and are able to build in at least one poudriere environment.
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports t=
ree for
> more than 3 months
>
I think this is somewhat too vague. Known to whom? Registered at
cve.mitre.org? In vuxml?
Probably something like: if vuxml thinks the port is vulnerable, then it's
marked FORBIDDEN immediately with a 3 month timeout (personally I think 2
weeks would be the maximum) by some automated script, and after the set
time of being FORBIDDEN, the port is eligible for immediate removal.
> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>
> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development.
> DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know.
> (It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately
> after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with
> backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting
> patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL
> versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months
> without justification.
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
> to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
>
>
> Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
>
> - Software hasn=E2=80=99t seen a release in a long time
> - Upstream looks inactive for a long time
>
IMHO, a lot of "friction" comes from lack of communication and not port
getting removed themselves.
For example, one of my port gets marked as DEPRECATED because a dependency
was deprecated and scheduled for removal after 1 month, without any email
telling me so (the port doesn't have a lot of releases and there isn't any
release during that "parole" month), and it gets removed after that. So in
order to know there is an ongoing deprecation of the port, I as a port
maintainer would have to either watch the directory for any changes, or
read all ports-git commit messages or at least a filtered version of it,
and that's burdensome and inefficient use of developer time at best.
What I would love to see happen is that, when a port gets marked as
DEPRECATED, there is an automated system that sends me notification with
something like:
ACTION REQUESTED: X new ports you maintain is marked as DEPRECATED
or, if it's just one port:
ACTION REQUESTED: category/port is marked as DEPRECATED and will be removed
on 1 month
=3D=3D=3D=3D
Hello,
This is a friendly notification from FreeBSD port deprecation bot. In the
latest scan the following ports you maintain are marked as DEPRECATED:
Port name | Removal date
category/port | 2024-03-30
...
and that email gets sent every 7 days until the port is removed or the
issue is fixed. Or a bug is created and assigned to the maintainer, etc.
Cheers,
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:22=E2=80=
=AFAM Florian Smeets <<a href=3D"mailto:flo@freebsd.org">flo@freebsd.org=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
Dear ports community,<br>
<br>
as the removal of ports is a recurring source of friction and dispute we <b=
r>
would like to add a ports removal and deprecation policy to the porters <br=
>
handbook.<br>
<br>
We tried to find a sensible middle ground between too fast removal and <br>
keeping unmaintained and abandoned upstream software in our ports tree <br>
forever.<br>
<br>
When can or should ports be deprecated or removed?<br>
<br>
This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be <br>
removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a <br=
>
port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed. <br>
In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed <br=
>
so that progress can be made. For more details see below.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met:=
<br>
<br>
- Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original <br>
source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not <br=
>
count as "available")<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">I have no o=
bjection with removing a port if upstream all died and nobody cared, but re=
moving them "immediately" seems to be too harsh and not friendly =
for smaller software vendors.=C2=A0 For example, bzip2 got their domain nam=
e stolen, but the project didn't really die and continued at <a href=3D=
"http://sourceware.org">sourceware.org</a>.=C2=A0 Please give the maintaine=
r some time (e.g. by marking the port as DEPRECATED with a timeout time, ma=
ybe two weeks, maybe a month or even 3 months).</div></div><div>=C2=A0</div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
- Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months<br></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
monospace,monospace">Could you please explain why upstream WWW would warran=
t a removal?=C2=A0 (I think removing the WWW=3D entry if the website is com=
promised or is no longer available is perfectly fine, but why remove the po=
rt itself?)</div></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">
- BROKEN for more than 6 months<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">I think if =
a port won't build on any of the official FreeBSD.org package=C2=A0clus=
ter, the port is marked BROKEN with a deprecation period of 6 months (perso=
nally I think it's too long, 3 months should be the maximum).</div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospa=
ce">This should include ports that are IGNORED for all supported platforms =
and conditionally broken with all supported defaults: they should have corr=
ect dependency and are able to build in at least one poudriere environment.=
</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
- has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports tre=
e for <br>
more than 3 months<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">I think this is somewhat=
too vague.=C2=A0 Known to whom?=C2=A0 Registered=C2=A0at <a href=3D"http:/=
/cve.mitre.org">cve.mitre.org</a>?=C2=A0 In vuxml?</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">Probably somethin=
g like: if vuxml thinks the port is vulnerable, then it's marked FORBID=
DEN immediately with a 3 month timeout (personally I think 2 weeks would be=
the maximum) by some automated script, and after the set time of being FOR=
BIDDEN, the port is eligible for immediate removal.</div></div><div>=C2=A0<=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">A port can be deprec=
ated and subsequently removed if:<br>
<br>
- Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development. <br>
DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know. <br>
(It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately <br=
>
after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with <br>
backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting <br>
patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL <br>
versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months <br>
without justification.<br>
- The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE, <br>
MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set <br=
>
to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6<br>
<br>
<br>
Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:<br>
<br>
- Software hasn=E2=80=99t seen a release in a long time<br>
- Upstream looks inactive for a long time<br></blockquote><div><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">IMHO, =
a lot of "friction" comes from lack of communication and not port=
getting removed themselves.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">For example, one of my port gets marke=
d as DEPRECATED because a dependency was deprecated and scheduled for remov=
al after 1 month, without any email telling me so (the port doesn't hav=
e a lot of releases and there isn't any release during that "parol=
e" month), and it gets removed after that.=C2=A0 So in order to know t=
here is an ongoing deprecation of the port, I as a port maintainer would ha=
ve to either watch the directory for any changes, or read all ports-git com=
mit messages or at least a filtered version of it, and that's burdensom=
e and inefficient use of developer time at best.</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">What I would love t=
o see happen is that, when a port gets marked as DEPRECATED, there is an au=
tomated system that sends me notification with something like:</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">ACTIO=
N REQUESTED: X new ports you maintain is marked as DEPRECATED</div><div cla=
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Hi everyone,
I have two requests for help.
First one is that I updated one of my ports, but I don't have merge access. Would appreciate it if someone can review. Ideally would merge to main + backport to quarterly. If there's something missing in the report that should be there, please let me know!
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=277386
Second is for net-im/telegram-desktop that has no maintainer. It was working great for me until a QT6 update (6.6.1->6.6.2). Surprisingly, even with that minor of a bump, Telegram Desktop quit launching. I'm not sure if that's normal for QT6 or not.
I can easily contribute a patch to update it, forcing a new package version release, but it seems like there might be a better practice to link this to QT6 updates where it's automatically rebuilt when they are updated.
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=277366
One simple option might be to backport the latest version in main to quarterly, which would force a rebuild, presumably with the latest QT6. I still don't know if that's ideal, however.
Thank you for your thoughts and insights.
Truly,
-Henrich
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On 29/02/2024 20:26, Xin LI wrote:
[...]
> Could you please explain why upstream WWW would warrant a removal? (I
> think removing the WWW= entry if the website is compromised or is no
> longer available is perfectly fine, but why remove the port itself?)
>
> - BROKEN for more than 6 months
>
>
> I think if a port won't build on any of the official FreeBSD.org
> package cluster, the port is marked BROKEN with a deprecation period of
> 6 months (personally I think it's too long, 3 months should be the maximum).
>
> This should include ports that are IGNORED for all supported platforms
> and conditionally broken with all supported defaults: they should have
> correct dependency and are able to build in at least one poudriere
> environment.
>
> - has known vulnerabilities that weren’t addressed in the ports tree
> for
> more than 3 months
>
>
> I think this is somewhat too vague. Known to whom? Registered at
> cve.mitre.org <http://cve.mitre.org>? In vuxml?
>
> Probably something like: if vuxml thinks the port is vulnerable, then
> it's marked FORBIDDEN immediately with a 3 month timeout (personally I
> think 2 weeks would be the maximum) by some automated script, and after
> the set time of being FORBIDDEN, the port is eligible for immediate removal.
Even ports of large projects, or projects on which hundreds or thousands
of other ports depend, have had an unresolved security issue for much
longer. For example, Python had an unpatched bug for over a month.
Removing such a port after 2 weeks does more harm than good.
Each user can check the pkg audit and decide for themselves if the
security issue affects their environment and whether to
install/retain/uninstall such a package. Removing ports for whatever
reason after 2 weeks is useless.
In general, I would like to see removal time frames taken not strictly
from the date of discovering the technical or security problem, but with
respect to quarterly branches. A lot of users use quarterly - for
stability - and then are unpleasantly surprised that a port has been
removed without seeing any warning. And if somebody finds a way to
revert it, it will probably get reverted after the next quarter, again
more harm than good.
> A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if:
>
> - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development.
> DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know.
> (It is up to the maintainer if they want to remove the port immediately
> after the EOL date or if they want keep the port for some time with
> backported patches. Option two is *not* possible without backporting
> patches, see vulnerable ports) The general suggestion is that EOL
> versions should not stay in the ports tree for more than 3 months
> without justification.
> - The port does not adapt to infrastructure changes (i.e. USE_STAGE,
> MANPREFIX, compiler updates, etc.) within 6 months. Ports should be set
> to DEPRECATED after 3 months and can be removed after 6
>
>
> Reasons that do not warrant removal of a port:
>
> - Software hasn’t seen a release in a long time
> - Upstream looks inactive for a long time
>
>
> IMHO, a lot of "friction" comes from lack of communication and not port
> getting removed themselves.
+1
> For example, one of my port gets marked as DEPRECATED because a
> dependency was deprecated and scheduled for removal after 1 month,
> without any email telling me so (the port doesn't have a lot of releases
> and there isn't any release during that "parole" month), and it gets
> removed after that. So in order to know there is an ongoing deprecation
> of the port, I as a port maintainer would have to either watch the
> directory for any changes, or read all ports-git commit messages or at
> least a filtered version of it, and that's burdensome and inefficient
> use of developer time at best.
>
> What I would love to see happen is that, when a port gets marked as
> DEPRECATED, there is an automated system that sends me notification with
> something like:
>
> ACTION REQUESTED: X new ports you maintain is marked as DEPRECATED
>
> or, if it's just one port:
>
> ACTION REQUESTED: category/port is marked as DEPRECATED and will be
> removed on 1 month
> ====
> Hello,
>
> This is a friendly notification from FreeBSD port deprecation bot. In
> the latest scan the following ports you maintain are marked as DEPRECATED:
>
> Port name   | Removal date
> category/port | 2024-03-30
> ...
>
> and that email gets sent every 7 days until the port is removed or the
> issue is fixed. Or a bug is created and assigned to the maintainer, etc.
I also remember one case that annoyed me a lot - unequal treatment of
ports that should have been removed due to deprecated dependencies, but
some were removed "immediately" and others worked for about another
year. Yes, these were Python 2.7 dependent ports, where someone was very
actively removing ports that required Python 2.7 as a build dependency.
Chromium wasn't removed, but Iridium was, yet it was the same build
process, same dependencies (but the Iridium takes care about privacy),
and throwing out hundreds of ports prematurely when Python 2.7 had to
stay in the ports tree anyway was completely unnecessary and unhelpful.
From my point of view, it was just a political decision and not a
technical one, that shouldn't have been there.
Kind regards
Miroslav Lachman
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On 2024-02-27 14:24, Gleb Popov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 5:43 AM Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> however, I do not know how that translates to Makefile
>> targets, like do-install-NON_USER_FACING_OPT-on. Currently the Makefile
>> target is of the ".if somecond FOO= .else BAR= .endif" form.
>
> I'm afraid you'd still have to write
>
> post-install:
> .if ${PORT_OPTIONS:MFOO} || ${PORT_OPTIONS:MBAR}
> ...
> .endif
>
> for optionalizing targets.
Thanks.
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> In message <864jdrzcov.fsf@ltc.des.dev>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?
> = w
> rites:
> > Florian Smeets <flo@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> > > Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is me=
> > t:
> > >
> > > - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original
> > > source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do
> > > not count as "available")
> >
> > Strong disagree, give the maintainer a chance to find an alternate
> > mirror or self-host.
>
> +1
+1 about this point, too.
Silly service providers changes their brand and domain, WITH THEIR
USERS FORCIBLY INCLUDING.
This immediately causes original upstream URI unavailable, even though
actual project DOES NOT AT ALL CHANGES.
And more importantly, some users dislikes such a domain name policy and
switch service provider. Of course, this causes original upstream URI
dissappear.
>
> >
> > > - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months
> >
> > That's the opposite of immediate removal
> >
> > > - BROKEN for more than 6 months
> >
> > Agree but that's hardly immediate
> >
> > > - has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports t=
> > ree
> > > for more than 3 months
> >
> > Agree but that's hardly immediate
> >
> > DES
> > --=20
> > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org
> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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> e^(i*pi)+1=0
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Hi,
net-im/signal-desktop currently reports the following error with "make
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=> signalapp-Signal-Desktop-6.48.1_GH0.tar.gz is not in
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=> Either /xports/net-im/signal-desktop/distinfo is out of date, or
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*** Error code 1
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This differs from what the port wants to fetch; ie: there's a "v" before
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according to the latest build run by bofh@
The updated list of failed ports can be obtained from the same URL as
before [1].
It is also worth mentioning that portmgr@ will make the hard switch
after 2024Q3 gets branched. This will break ports from the list, so
please make sure to update them beforehand.
[1] https://people.freebsd.org/~bofh/dropzone/manprefix-fail.maintainer.txt
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Hi,
Now thet py-setuptools-scm 8 is out, tried to upgrade :
[root@numenor ports]# portupgrade -vf -o devel/py-setuptools-scm
py39-setuptools_scm-6.4.2
--->Â Session started at: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 08:31:04 +0100
[Reading data from pkg(8) ... - 1757 packages found - done]
** Detected a package name change: py39-setuptools_scm
(devel/py-setuptools_scm) -> 'py39-setuptools-scm' (devel/py-setuptools-scm)
--->Â Upgrade of devel/py-setuptools-scm started at: Sat, 02 Mar 2024
08:31:06 +0100
--->Â Upgrading 'py39-setuptools_scm-6.4.2' to
'py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4' (devel/py-setuptools-scm)
--->Â Build of devel/py-setuptools-scm started at: Sat, 02 Mar 2024
08:31:06 +0100
--->Â Building '/usr/ports/devel/py-setuptools-scm' with make flags:
-DDISABLE_CONFLICTS
===>Â Cleaning for py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4
===>Â License MIT accepted by the user
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg -
found
===> Fetching all distfiles required by py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 for
building
===>Â Extracting for py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for setuptools-scm-8.0.4.tar.gz.
===>Â Patching for py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on package: py39-setuptools>0 -
found
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on package: py39-wheel>0 - found
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on file:
/usr/local/bin/python3.9 - found
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on package: py39-tomli>0 - found
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on package: py39-build>=0 - found
===>Â Â py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4 depends on package: py39-installer>=0 -
found
===>Â Configuring for py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4
===>Â Building for py39-setuptools-scm-8.0.4
* Getting build dependencies for wheel...
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py",
line 353, in <module>
   main()
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py",
line 335, in main
   json_out['return_val'] = hook(**hook_input['kwargs'])
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pyproject_hooks/_in_process/_in_process.py",
line 118, in get_requires_for_build_wheel
   return hook(config_settings)
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line
177, in get_requires_for_build_wheel
   return self._get_build_requires(
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line
159, in _get_build_requires
   self.run_setup()
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/build_meta.py", line
174, in run_setup
   exec(compile(code, __file__, 'exec'), locals())
 File "setup.py", line 1, in <module>
 File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/__init__.py",
line 87, in setup
   return distutils.core.setup(**attrs)
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/core.py",
line 139, in setup
   _setup_distribution = dist = klass(attrs)
 File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py",
line 476, in __init__
   _Distribution.__init__(
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/_distutils/dist.py",
line 275, in __init__
   self.finalize_options()
 File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py",
line 899, in finalize_options
   for ep in sorted(loaded, key=by_order):
 File "/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/dist.py",
line 898, in <lambda>
   loaded = map(lambda e: e.load(), filtered)
 File
"/usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/setuptools/_vendor/importlib_metadata/__init__.py",
line 196, in load
   return functools.reduce(getattr, attrs, module)
AttributeError: module 'setuptools_scm.integration' has no attribute
'infer_version'
ERROR Backend subprocess exited when trying to invoke
get_requires_for_build_wheel
*** Error code 1
Any idea to fix it ?
Regards,
Xavier
--
Xavier HUMBERT - Unix/Win/MacOSX Sysadmin/Network Engineer
https://www.amdh.fr
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Then reinstall the ports that have lost their dependencies, and they will be installed with the auto-install flag also set correctly.
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Le 28/02/2024 à 08:32, Alexander Leidinger a écrit :
> Am 2024-02-28 00:52, schrieb Hubert Tournier:
>>> Shouldn't this make it to ports-mgmt/ as portlinter?
>>
>> If it's deemed useful, I could make the port next week-end.
>
> If you do that, I suggest to use a name which makes it clear that it
> is not a replacement for portlint (which operates on 1 port), and that
> makes it clear that it operates on the whole tree. Maybe
> portstreelint, or portstreecheck, or ptlint, or ptcheck, or whatever,
> but not "portlint*".
Hello,
You're right. I was lacking inspiration the day I named this :-)
I made a new version named portstreelint (with aliases ptlint and ptl),
which is now a Python package rather than a standalone script.
It supersedes the previous one and is located at:
https://github.com/HubTou/portstreelint
With Python's pip it can be installed with: pip install pnu-portstreelint
I also added many new checks, some inspired by the neighboring "Proposed
ports deprecation and removal policy" discussion thread.
On a freshly updated ports tree and index, it reports the following
findings:
Selected 34408 ports out of 34408 in the FreeBSD port tree, and found:
 5 ports with unusual installation-prefix (warning)
 338 ports with a comment string exceeding 70 characters (warning)
 286 ports with an uncapitalized comment
 11 ports comment ending with a dot
 109 ports with a comment different between the Index and Makefile
 2 ports with non existent description-file
 198 ports with URL ending description-file
 613 ports with description-file identical to comment
 483 ports with description-file no longer than comment
 10427 ports without pkg-plist/PLIST_FILES/PLIST/PLIST_SUB (info)
 170 ports abusing PLIST_FILES with more than 6 entries (warning)
 5 ports with a maintainer different between the Index and Makefile
 34 ports referring to unofficial categories (warning)
 262 ports with categories different between the Index and Makefile
 1246 ports with no www-site
 304 ports with an unresolvable www-site hostname
 659 ports with an unaccessible www-site
 2 ports with a www-site different betwwen the Index and makefile
 121 ports with a BROKEN mark
 39 ports with a BROKEN mark older than 180 days
 232 ports with a IGNORE mark in some cases (info)
 1 port with a FORBIDDEN mark
 2 ports with a FORBIDDEN mark older than 90 days
 114 ports with a DEPRECATED mark
 13 ports with a DEPRECATED mark older than 180 days
Full refreshed reports are available at the following addresses for
those who are curious but don't want to install the tool:
https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stdout.txt
https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stderr.txt
Note that packing list check is not that much interesting as one third
of the ports tree is not using any of the ways documented in the
Porter's Handbook to list its files.
I could use some help here to make it better.
Now that this tool is a Python package, it's easier to use other Python
libraries.
I already created a dependency on my vuxml library
(https://github.com/HubTou/vuxml), which I will shortly use to add
vulnerable ports reporting.
I'll then study how to check unavailable distfiles (building their name
in all the ports cases being the hardest part).
Best regards,
Hubert
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Le 28/02/2024 à 08:32, Alexander Leidinger a écrit :<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:46af7b220502ded8fb3848f279546da3@Leidinger.net">Am
2024-02-28 00:52, schrieb Hubert Tournier: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Shouldn't this make it to ports-mgmt/ as
portlinter?
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
If it's deemed useful, I could make the port next week-end.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
If you do that, I suggest to use a name which makes it clear that
it is not a replacement for portlint (which operates on 1 port),
and that makes it clear that it operates on the whole tree. Maybe
portstreelint, or portstreecheck, or ptlint, or ptcheck, or
whatever, but not "portlint*".
</blockquote>
<p></p>
<p>Hello,<br>
</p>
<p>You're right. I was lacking inspiration the day I named this :-)</p>
<p>I made a new version named portstreelint (with aliases ptlint and
ptl), which is now a Python package rather than a standalone
script.<br>
</p>
<p>It supersedes the previous one and is located at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/HubTou/portstreelint">https://github.com/HubTou/portstreelint</a> <br>
</p>
<p>With Python's pip it can be installed with: pip install
pnu-portstreelint<br>
</p>
<p>I also added many new checks, some inspired by the neighboring
"Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy" discussion thread.</p>
<p>On a freshly updated ports tree and index, it reports the
following findings:</p>
<p>Selected 34408 ports out of 34408 in the FreeBSD port tree, and
found:<br>
 5 ports with unusual installation-prefix (warning)<br>
 338 ports with a comment string exceeding 70 characters
(warning)<br>
 286 ports with an uncapitalized comment<br>
 11 ports comment ending with a dot<br>
 109 ports with a comment different between the Index and
Makefile<br>
 2 ports with non existent description-file<br>
 198 ports with URL ending description-file<br>
 613 ports with description-file identical to comment<br>
 483 ports with description-file no longer than comment<br>
 10427 ports without pkg-plist/PLIST_FILES/PLIST/PLIST_SUB (info)<br>
 170 ports abusing PLIST_FILES with more than 6 entries (warning)<br>
 5 ports with a maintainer different between the Index and
Makefile<br>
 34 ports referring to unofficial categories (warning)<br>
 262 ports with categories different between the Index and
Makefile<br>
 1246 ports with no www-site<br>
 304 ports with an unresolvable www-site hostname<br>
 659 ports with an unaccessible www-site<br>
 2 ports with a www-site different betwwen the Index and makefile<br>
 121 ports with a BROKEN mark<br>
 39 ports with a BROKEN mark older than 180 days<br>
 232 ports with a IGNORE mark in some cases (info)<br>
 1 port with a FORBIDDEN mark<br>
 2 ports with a FORBIDDEN mark older than 90 days<br>
 114 ports with a DEPRECATED mark<br>
 13 ports with a DEPRECATED mark older than 180 days</p>
<p>Full refreshed reports are available at the following addresses
for those who are curious but don't want to install the tool:</p>
<pre class="main"> Â Â Â <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stdout.txt">https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stdout.txt</a>
   <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stderr.txt">https://www.frbsd.org/xch/stderr.txt</a></pre>
<p></p>
<p>Note that packing list check is not that much interesting as one
third of the ports tree is not using any of the ways documented in
the Porter's Handbook to list its files.</p>
<p>I could use some help here to make it better.<br>
</p>
<p>Now that this tool is a Python package, it's easier to use other
Python libraries.</p>
<p>I already created a dependency on my vuxml library
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/HubTou/vuxml">https://github.com/HubTou/vuxml</a>), which I will shortly use to add
vulnerable ports reporting.<br>
</p>
<p>I'll then study how to check unavailable distfiles (building
their name in all the ports cases being the hardest part).<br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
</p>
<p>Hubert</p>
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Le 02/03/2024 08:45, Tatsuki Makino a écrit :
> Hello.
>
> It seems that py39-setuptools_scm-6.4.2 must not be installed to install py39-setuptools-scm-8.x.
> So we cannot use -o of portmaster or portupgrade.
> The only way seems to be to delete it beforehand with pkg delete -f.
That's what I did, with no success.
> Then reinstall the ports that have lost their dependencies, and they will be installed with the auto-install flag also set correctly.
>
> Regards.
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<pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Hello.
It seems that py39-setuptools_scm-6.4.2 must not be installed to install py39-setuptools-scm-8.x.
So we cannot use -o of portmaster or portupgrade.
The only way seems to be to delete it beforehand with pkg delete -f.</pre>
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That's what I did, with no success.<br>
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Then reinstall the ports that have lost their dependencies, and they will be installed with the auto-install flag also set correctly.
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> Le 02/03/2024 08:45, Tatsuki Makino a écrit :
>> Hello.
>>
>> It seems that py39-setuptools_scm-6.4.2 must not be installed to install py39-setuptools-scm-8.x.
>> So we cannot use -o of portmaster or portupgrade.
>> The only way seems to be to delete it beforehand with pkg delete -f.
> That's what I did, with no success.
>> Then reinstall the ports that have lost their dependencies, and they will be installed with the auto-install flag also set correctly.
>>
>> Regards.
>
Sorry, I didn't double check, it worked. Thanks
Regards
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Am 2024-03-02 09:24, schrieb Hubert Tournier:
> Now that this tool is a Python package, it's easier to use other Python
> libraries.
Maybe a check for ports which could be flavourized? Most PHP and python
packages could be flavourized. The issue may be false positives...
PHP examples are baikal and tt-rss (for both I have patches, waiting a
bit before declaring maintainer timeout).
Bye,
Alexander.
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<p>Maybe a check for ports which could be flavourized? Most PHP and python =
packages could be flavourized. The issue may be false positives...</p>
<p>PHP examples are baikal and tt-rss (for both I have patches, waiting a b=
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<p>Bye,<br />Alexander.</p>
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Hello,
I did a little survey on PHP PECL ports and found that almost half of
the PECL ports (27 out of 68) have PEAR listed as the second category. I
believe this is a mistake and PECL ports should not be listed in the
PEAR category because PECL [1] ports are PHP extensions (wrappers for C
libraries), but PEAR [2] ports are libraries written in PHP.
Or did I miss something and there is a reasonable reason for PECL ports
to be also listed in the PEAR category?
These are 27 ports:
archivers/pecl-lzf archivers pear
archivers/pecl-rar archivers pear
databases/pecl-mongodb databases pear
databases/pecl-rrd databases pear
devel/pecl-dio devel pear
devel/pecl-excimer devel pear
devel/pecl-expect devel pear
devel/pecl-uploadprogress devel pear
devel/pecl-uuid devel pear
devel/pecl-vld devel pear
devel/pecl-xdebug devel pear
graphics/pecl-qrencode graphics pear
net-im/pecl-stomp2 net-im pear
net/pecl-amqp net pear
net/pecl-oauth2 net pear
net/pecl-radius net security pear
net/pecl-rdkafka net pear
net/pecl-smbclient net pear
net/pecl-xmlrpc net pear
security/pecl-krb5 security pear
security/pecl-mcrypt security pear
security/pecl-pam security pear
security/pecl-scrypt security pear
security/pecl-ssh2 security pear
sysutils/pecl-proctitle sysutils pear
textproc/pecl-xdiff2 textproc pear
textproc/pecl-yaml textproc pear
Should I submit a PR with a patch for all 27 ports?
[1] https://pecl.php.net/
[2] https://pear.php.net/
Kind regards
Miroslav Lachman
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Subject: Re: Proposal to remove PECL ports from the PEAR category
From: Moin Rahman <bofh@freebsd.org>
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> On Mar 2, 2024, at 11:59 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> I did a little survey on PHP PECL ports and found that almost half of =
the PECL ports (27 out of 68) have PEAR listed as the second category. I =
believe this is a mistake and PECL ports should not be listed in the =
PEAR category because PECL [1] ports are PHP extensions (wrappers for C =
libraries), but PEAR [2] ports are libraries written in PHP.
>=20
> Or did I miss something and there is a reasonable reason for PECL =
ports to be also listed in the PEAR category?
>=20
> These are 27 ports:
>=20
> archivers/pecl-lzf archivers pear
> archivers/pecl-rar archivers pear
> databases/pecl-mongodb databases pear
> databases/pecl-rrd databases pear
> devel/pecl-dio devel pear
> devel/pecl-excimer devel pear
> devel/pecl-expect devel pear
> devel/pecl-uploadprogress devel pear
> devel/pecl-uuid devel pear
> devel/pecl-vld devel pear
> devel/pecl-xdebug devel pear
> graphics/pecl-qrencode graphics pear
> net-im/pecl-stomp2 net-im pear
> net/pecl-amqp net pear
> net/pecl-oauth2 net pear
> net/pecl-radius net security pear
> net/pecl-rdkafka net pear
> net/pecl-smbclient net pear
> net/pecl-xmlrpc net pear
> security/pecl-krb5 security pear
> security/pecl-mcrypt security pear
> security/pecl-pam security pear
> security/pecl-scrypt security pear
> security/pecl-ssh2 security pear
> sysutils/pecl-proctitle sysutils pear
> textproc/pecl-xdiff2 textproc pear
> textproc/pecl-yaml textproc pear
>=20
> Should I submit a PR with a patch for all 27 ports?
>=20
> [1] https://pecl.php.net/
> [2] https://pear.php.net/
>=20
> Kind regards
> Miroslav Lachman
>=20
As the maintainer of php I do agree with this. The only problem is
other maintainers of some of the ports do not. There was a
discussion on this long time(php5) ago which did not see any fruitful
result.
You can create a review instead in phabricator and add the maintainers
and retry again.
Kind regards,
Moin
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Subject: Re: Proposal to remove PECL ports from the PEAR category
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> On Mar 2, 2024, at 11:59 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> I did a little survey on PHP PECL ports and found that almost half of =
the PECL ports (27 out of 68) have PEAR listed as the second category. I =
believe this is a mistake and PECL ports should not be listed in the =
PEAR category because PECL [1] ports are PHP extensions (wrappers for C =
libraries), but PEAR [2] ports are libraries written in PHP.
>=20
> Or did I miss something and there is a reasonable reason for PECL =
ports to be also listed in the PEAR category?
>=20
> These are 27 ports:
>=20
> archivers/pecl-lzf archivers pear
> archivers/pecl-rar archivers pear
> databases/pecl-mongodb databases pear
> databases/pecl-rrd databases pear
> devel/pecl-dio devel pear
> devel/pecl-excimer devel pear
> devel/pecl-expect devel pear
> devel/pecl-uploadprogress devel pear
> devel/pecl-uuid devel pear
> devel/pecl-vld devel pear
> devel/pecl-xdebug devel pear
> graphics/pecl-qrencode graphics pear
> net-im/pecl-stomp2 net-im pear
> net/pecl-amqp net pear
> net/pecl-oauth2 net pear
> net/pecl-radius net security pear
> net/pecl-rdkafka net pear
> net/pecl-smbclient net pear
> net/pecl-xmlrpc net pear
> security/pecl-krb5 security pear
> security/pecl-mcrypt security pear
> security/pecl-pam security pear
> security/pecl-scrypt security pear
> security/pecl-ssh2 security pear
> sysutils/pecl-proctitle sysutils pear
> textproc/pecl-xdiff2 textproc pear
> textproc/pecl-yaml textproc pear
>=20
> Should I submit a PR with a patch for all 27 ports?
>=20
> [1] https://pecl.php.net/
> [2] https://pear.php.net/
>=20
> Kind regards
> Miroslav Lachman
>=20
As the maintainer of php I do agree with this. The only problem is
other maintainers of some of the ports do not. There was a
discussion on this long time(php5) ago which did not see any fruitful
result.
You can create a review instead in phabricator and add the maintainers
and retry again.
Kind regards,
Moin
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Le 02/03/2024 à 18:22, Alexander Leidinger a écrit :
>
> Am 2024-03-02 09:24, schrieb Hubert Tournier:
>
>> Now that this tool is a Python package, it's easier to use other
>> Python libraries.
>>
> Maybe a check for ports which could be flavourized? Most PHP and
> python packages could be flavourized. The issue may be false positives...
>
> PHP examples are baikal and tt-rss (for both I have patches, waiting a
> bit before declaring maintainer timeout).
>
Unless there is a way to deduce that from a port's Makefile, I do not
see how to implement it?
For example, taking Python packages, it would require downloading the
distfiles, analyzing their content (for example, sections
[options.extras_require] in setup.cfg), and looking if there are
corresponding port flavours (assuming they have been named similarly).
But downloading all ports distfiles would be very long and would consume
a lot of disk space (with a possible Denial of Service risk, should a
file system be saturated!).
If there's another simpler way, I would be happy to know about it.
Best regards,
Hubert
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 02/03/2024 Ã 18:22, Alexander
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<p>Now that this tool is a Python package, it's easier to
use other Python libraries.</p>
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<p>Maybe a check for ports which could be flavourized? Most PHP
and python packages could be flavourized. The issue may be false
positives...</p>
<p>PHP examples are baikal and tt-rss (for both I have patches,
waiting a bit before declaring maintainer timeout).</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Unless there is a way to deduce that from a port's Makefile, I do
not see how to implement it?<br>
</p>
<p>For example, taking Python packages, it would require downloading
the distfiles, analyzing their content (for example, sections
[options.extras_require] in setup.cfg), and looking if there are
corresponding port flavours (assuming they have been named
similarly).</p>
<p>But downloading all ports distfiles would be very long and would
consume a lot of disk space (with a possible Denial of Service
risk, should a file system be saturated!).</p>
<p>If there's another simpler way, I would be happy to know about
it.<br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Hubert<br>
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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 19:26:23 UTC, Xin LI wrote:
> For example, one of my port gets marked as DEPRECATED because a dependency
> was deprecated and scheduled for removal after 1 month, without any email
> telling me so (the port doesn't have a lot of releases and there isn't any
> release during that "parole" month), and it gets removed after that. So in
> order to know there is an ongoing deprecation of the port, I as a port
> maintainer would have to either watch the directory for any changes, or
> read all ports-git commit messages or at least a filtered version of it,
> and that's burdensome and inefficient use of developer time at best.
> What I would love to see happen is that, when a port gets marked as
> DEPRECATED, there is an automated system that sends me notification with
> something like:
> ACTION REQUESTED: X new ports you maintain is marked as DEPRECATED
[...]
> and that email gets sent every 7 days until the port is removed or the
> issue is fixed. Or a bug is created and assigned to the maintainer, etc.
Alternately, you could just create a periodic batch on your own machine
to do that check on the ports you maintain.
The tool I mentioned in the neighboring "Port tree linter" thread can do
that for you with the following command:
$ portstreelint -hu -mdelphij@freebsd.org 2> /dev/null
It would check BROKEN, FORBIDDEN, IGNORE (poorly) and DEPRECATED marks,
as well as vulnerabilities reported in VuXML (in the version I will
upload tomorrow) and many other things, automatically on your 31 ports.
Best regards,
Hubert
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<pre class="main">On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 19:26:23 UTC, Xin LI wrote:
> For example, one of my port gets marked as DEPRECATED because a dependency
> was deprecated and scheduled for removal after 1 month, without any email
> telling me so (the port doesn't have a lot of releases and there isn't any
> release during that "parole" month), and it gets removed after that. So in
> order to know there is an ongoing deprecation of the port, I as a port
> maintainer would have to either watch the directory for any changes, or
> read all ports-git commit messages or at least a filtered version of it,
> and that's burdensome and inefficient use of developer time at best.
> What I would love to see happen is that, when a port gets marked as
> DEPRECATED, there is an automated system that sends me notification with
> something like:
> ACTION REQUESTED: X new ports you maintain is marked as DEPRECATED
[...]
> and that email gets sent every 7 days until the port is removed or the
> issue is fixed. Or a bug is created and assigned to the maintainer, etc.
Alternately, you could just create a periodic batch on your own machine
to do that check on the ports you maintain.
The tool I mentioned in the neighboring "Port tree linter" thread can do
that for you with the following command:
$ portstreelint -hu -m <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphij@freebsd.org">delphij@freebsd.org</a> 2> /dev/null
It would check BROKEN, FORBIDDEN, IGNORE (poorly) and DEPRECATED marks,
as well as vulnerabilities reported in VuXML (in the version I will
upload tomorrow) and many other things, automatically on your 31 ports.
Best regards,
Hubert
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Cc: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
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Hello,
Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
Seems that we don't have PNU deps ported yet.
Cheers
Hubert Tournier <hubert.tournier@gmail.com> escreveu (domingo,
3/03/2024 =C3=A0(s) 01:23):
>
> Le 02/03/2024 =C3=A0 18:22, Alexander Leidinger a =C3=A9crit :
>
> Am 2024-03-02 09:24, schrieb Hubert Tournier:
>
> Now that this tool is a Python package, it's easier to use other Python l=
ibraries.
>
> Maybe a check for ports which could be flavourized? Most PHP and python p=
ackages could be flavourized. The issue may be false positives...
>
> PHP examples are baikal and tt-rss (for both I have patches, waiting a bi=
t before declaring maintainer timeout).
>
> Unless there is a way to deduce that from a port's Makefile, I do not see=
how to implement it?
>
> For example, taking Python packages, it would require downloading the dis=
tfiles, analyzing their content (for example, sections [options.extras_requ=
ire] in setup.cfg), and looking if there are corresponding port flavours (a=
ssuming they have been named similarly).
>
> But downloading all ports distfiles would be very long and would consume =
a lot of disk space (with a possible Denial of Service risk, should a file =
system be saturated!).
>
> If there's another simpler way, I would be happy to know about it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hubert
>
>
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Subject: Re: Port tree linter
To: Nuno Teixeira <eduardo@freebsd.org>
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Le 03/03/2024 à 09:22, Nuno Teixeira a écrit :
> Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
> Seems that we don't have PNU deps ported yet.
Yes, I'll do that, but I want to finish one or two functionalities first:
- VuXML vulnerabilities check, that I'll roll out this afternoon
- distfiles availability
And maybe think a little about alternative computer-friendly outputs
(json, csv, other?), besides human-friendly text output?
But in the meantime it's available as a Python package for those who
don't fear installing that (it works without superuser access so could
be installed as local user Python packages).
Best regards,
Hubert
PS: only little parts of the PNU project would have to be added to the
ports tree (libpnu and vuxml), and maybe some third parties Python
packages too
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
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<p>Yes, I'll do that, but I want to finish one or two
functionalities first:</p>
<p>- VuXML vulnerabilities check, that I'll roll out this afternoon</p>
<p>- distfiles availability<br>
</p>
<p>And maybe think a little about alternative computer-friendly
outputs (json, csv, other?), besides human-friendly text output?<br>
</p>
<p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">But in the meantime it's available as a Python package for those who don't fear installing that (it works without superuser access so could be installed as local user Python packages).
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<p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">Best regards,</span></p>
<p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">Hubert</span></p>
<p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">PS: only little parts of the PNU project would have to be added to the ports tree (libpnu and vuxml), and maybe some third parties Python packages too
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Really nice!
I will wait until it gets added to tree to try it out.
Cheers,
Hubert Tournier <hubert.tournier@gmail.com> escreveu (domingo,
3/03/2024 =C3=A0(s) 11:48):
>
> Le 03/03/2024 =C3=A0 09:22, Nuno Teixeira a =C3=A9crit :
>
> Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
> Seems that we don't have PNU deps ported yet.
>
> Yes, I'll do that, but I want to finish one or two functionalities first:
>
> - VuXML vulnerabilities check, that I'll roll out this afternoon
>
> - distfiles availability
>
> And maybe think a little about alternative computer-friendly outputs (jso=
n, csv, other?), besides human-friendly text output?
>
> But in the meantime it's available as a Python package for those who don'=
t fear installing that (it works without superuser access so could be insta=
lled as local user Python packages).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hubert
>
> PS: only little parts of the PNU project would have to be added to the po=
rts tree (libpnu and vuxml), and maybe some third parties Python packages t=
oo
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Hi all,
I am currently working on an updated port of net/pjsip. I have a personal
use case building for the raspberry-pi, too. All the information that I
found so far seemed outdated. Many are talking about building a
cross-compiler. With clang that should not be necessary, right?
Can anyone point me to more recent information on how I can build for armv6
on a x86_64 machine?
greetings
Oliver
P.S.: I know how to build for different architectures. My questions are all
about the "dos and don'ts" and best practices when it comes to the FreeBSDs
ports system.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I am currently working on an up=
dated port of net/pjsip. I have a personal use case building for the raspbe=
rry-pi, too. All the information that I found so far seemed outdated. Many =
are talking about building a cross-compiler. With clang that should not be =
necessary, right?</div><div><br></div><div>Can anyone point me to more rece=
nt information on how I can build for armv6 on a x86_64 machine?</div><div>=
<br></div><div>greetings</div><div>Oliver</div><div><br></div><div>P.S.: I =
know how to build for different architectures. My questions are all about t=
he "dos and don'ts" and best practices when it comes to the F=
reeBSDs ports system.</div></div>
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 12:48:03 +0100
Hubert Tournier <hubert.tournier@gmail.com> wrote:
> Le 03/03/2024 =C3=A0 09:22, Nuno Teixeira a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> > Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
> > Seems that we don't have PNU deps ported yet. =20
>=20
> Yes, I'll do that, but I want to finish one or two functionalities
> first:
Could you announce when its available?
Thank you for contributing this.
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I have a local package-builder that's (generally) been working quite
well for me since Jul 2015 (through a couple of hardware replacements,
sure, but the approach remains the same).
Today, in trying to chase down what was causing my central "hub" machine
to whine:
ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libtasn1.so.6: version LIBTASN1_0_3 required by=
/usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so.30 not defined
I found (via the "pkg_libchk" script from ports-mgmt/bsdadminscripts2)
that some just-installed packages are apparently expecting to use
libc.so.6, which hasn't existed on anything here since 18 February.
(My machines run stable/14 for getting things done; the development
machines also track head, so I have some clue what's coming.)
The package-builder also builds FreeBSD for its "client" machines. The
package-builder (and my laptop) track stable/14 daily; the
package-builder does a 2-pass weekend run of package-building (first
pass on Saturday, after updating FreeBSD; second on Sunday). Once the
packages are built, the client machines update FreeBSD (to the latest
snapshot from the package-builder, which is already running that code).
The package-builder is thus running the same revision of FreeBSD that
the clients are about to run. And poudriere is using the
package-builder's /usr/src and /usr/ports to construct jails & build
stuff.
I am trying to ensure a certain level of consistency, here. And today
appears to show that I have failed to do that.
Is there something less drastic than clearing all poudriere caches of
packages and rebuilding all packages all over again??!? (that will get
me a set of packages consistent with the current state of FreeBSD
sources and ports (stable/14-n266921-8a7d5d73b849 and
main-n654175-6928d3a11398, respectively (at the moment)))?
At least name resolution isn't broken this time, but printing seems to
have been a casualty.
Peace,
david
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Le 03/03/2024 à 17:11, Piotr Smyrak a écrit :
> On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 12:48:03 +0100
> Hubert Tournier<hubert.tournier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Le 03/03/2024 à 09:22, Nuno Teixeira a écrit :
>>> Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
>>> Seems that we don't have PNU deps ported yet.
>> Yes, I'll do that, but I want to finish one or two functionalities
>> first:
> Could you announce when its available?
Yes! I'll need to submit ports for pnu-libpnu, pnu-vuxml (which, besides
being a library, is a "search engine" command-line tool inside the VuXML
vulnerabilities list that would probably be interesting too for readers
of this mailing list) and pnu-portstreelint.
All the other required dependencies are already in the port tree, with
the peculiar case of py39-html2text which is a bit old (version
2020.1.16, while IÂ have 2024.2.26 on my system).
Meanwhile:
- the Python package version including ports vulnerabilities reporting
and CSV output is now available on GitHub
- the tools (refreshed) results on the whole ports tree are on the
previously given links
> Thank you for contributing this.
With pleasure.
Best regards,
Hubert
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 03/03/2024 Ã 17:11, Piotr Smyrak a
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 12:48:03 +0100
Hubert Tournier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hubert.tournier@gmail.com"><hubert.tournier@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Le 03/03/2024 à 09:22, Nuno Teixeira a écrit :
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Is there plans to add it to our ports tree?
Seems that we don't have PNU deps ported yet.
</pre>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Yes, I'll do that, but I want to finish one or two functionalities
first:
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Could you announce when its available?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes! I'll need to submit ports for pnu-libpnu, pnu-vuxml (which,
besides being a library, is a "search engine" command-line tool
inside the VuXML vulnerabilities list that would probably be
interesting too for readers of this mailing list) and
pnu-portstreelint.</p>
<p>All the other required dependencies are already in the port tree,
with the peculiar case of py39-html2text which is a bit old
(version 2020.1.16, while IÂ have 2024.2.26 on my system).<br>
</p>
<p>Meanwhile:</p>
<p>- the Python package version including ports vulnerabilities
reporting and CSV output is now available on GitHub</p>
<p>- the tools (refreshed) results on the whole ports tree are on
the previously given links <br>
</p>
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cite="mid:20240303171134.0a61b218@daleth.home">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Thank you for contributing this.</pre>
</blockquote>
<p><span style="white-space: pre-wrap">With pleasure.</span></p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Hubert<br>
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On Sun, Mar 3, 2024, at 12:33, David Wolfskill wrote:
> I have a local package-builder that's (generally) been working quite
> well for me since Jul 2015 (through a couple of hardware replacements,
> sure, but the approach remains the same).
>
> Today, in trying to chase down what was causing my central "hub" machi=
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> ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libtasn1.so.6: version LIBTASN1_0_3=20
> required by /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so.30 not defined
>
> I found (via the "pkg_libchk" script from ports-mgmt/bsdadminscripts2)
> that some just-installed packages are apparently expecting to use
> libc.so.6, which hasn't existed on anything here since 18 February.
>
> (My machines run stable/14 for getting things done; the development
> machines also track head, so I have some clue what's coming.)
>
> The package-builder also builds FreeBSD for its "client" machines. The
> package-builder (and my laptop) track stable/14 daily; the
> package-builder does a 2-pass weekend run of package-building (first
> pass on Saturday, after updating FreeBSD; second on Sunday). Once the
> packages are built, the client machines update FreeBSD (to the latest
> snapshot from the package-builder, which is already running that code).
>
> The package-builder is thus running the same revision of FreeBSD that
> the clients are about to run. And poudriere is using the
> package-builder's /usr/src and /usr/ports to construct jails & build
> stuff.
>
> I am trying to ensure a certain level of consistency, here. And today
> appears to show that I have failed to do that.
>
> Is there something less drastic than clearing all poudriere caches of
> packages and rebuilding all packages all over again??!? (that will get
> me a set of packages consistent with the current state of FreeBSD
> sources and ports (stable/14-n266921-8a7d5d73b849 and
> main-n654175-6928d3a11398, respectively (at the moment)))?
>
> At least name resolution isn't broken this time, but printing seems to
> have been a casualty.
>
> Peace,
> david
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> On Sun, Mar 3, 2024, at 12:33, David Wolfskill wrote:
> > I have a local package-builder that's (generally) been working quite
> > well for me since Jul 2015 (through a couple of hardware replacements,
> > sure, but the approach remains the same).
> >
> > Today, in trying to chase down what was causing my central "hub" machine
> > to whine:
> >
> > ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libtasn1.so.6: version LIBTASN1_0_3=20
> > required by /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so.30 not defined
> ...
> Is this error in a Poudri=E8re build log or spit out to the console when =
running a command on a client?
> ....
The above occurred (checking the typescript file) during "pkg install";
I also saw it while trying to run a command on the client machine.
Checking the last set of poudriere build logs, I do not find any similar
whines in any of them, nor do I find any in the typescript (from running
"poudriere bulk").
Meanwhile, I am about to copy over a backup copy of libc.so.6 to try to
work around the other part of this.
Peace,
david
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On Sun, Mar 3, 2024, at 13:12, David Wolfskill wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 01:01:36PM -0600, robert@rrbrussell.com wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2024, at 12:33, David Wolfskill wrote:
>> > I have a local package-builder that's (generally) been working quite
>> > well for me since Jul 2015 (through a couple of hardware replacemen=
ts,
>> > sure, but the approach remains the same).
>> >
>> > Today, in trying to chase down what was causing my central "hub" ma=
chine
>> > to whine:
>> >
>> > ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libtasn1.so.6: version LIBTASN1_0_3=20
>> > required by /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so.30 not defined
>> ...
>> Is this error in a Poudri=C3=A8re build log or spit out to the consol=
e when running a command on a client?
>> ....
>
> The above occurred (checking the typescript file) during "pkg install";
> I also saw it while trying to run a command on the client machine.
>
> Checking the last set of poudriere build logs, I do not find any simil=
ar
> whines in any of them, nor do I find any in the typescript (from runni=
ng
> "poudriere bulk").
>
> Meanwhile, I am about to copy over a backup copy of libc.so.6 to try to
> work around the other part of this.
>
> Peace,
> david
> --=20
> David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org
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Okay, find out which package provides libtasn1.so.6 and do a forced rein=
stall of it with pkg install -f. I ran into a similar issue recently wit=
h the exported symbols list being updated without a revision update that=
notified pkg of the change. A forced reinstall of the package solved th=
e problem. Mine was a different library but the error message matches.
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What has happened to math/sage? The port still exists but hasn't built
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Hello.
David Wolfskill wrote on 2024/03/04 03:33:
> ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libtasn1.so.6: version LIBTASN1_0_3 required by /usr/local/lib/libgnutls.so.30 not defined
I don't know what it.
If you want to have them rebuilt only for those packages in poudriere, the command will be as follows.
poudriere bulk -j somejail -C security/gnutls security/libtasn1
Is this it?
Regards.