From nobody Sun Dec 31 03:36:13 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T2lCC3L0mz561Ch for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 03:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "holgerdanske.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T2lCB1hzNz4KXK for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2023 03:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=holgerdanske.com header.s=nov-20210719-112354 header.b=Io2lOE6C; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dpchrist@holgerdanske.com designates 184.105.128.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dpchrist@holgerdanske.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=holgerdanske.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=holgerdanske.com; s=nov-20210719-112354; t=1703993773; bh=iNjZhgA4+kYcdpLbsBJNTlFVX4Hbt7n7txQg2YJbCrQ=; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:User-Agent:Content-Language: To:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Io2lOE6CecDotExTQjMf3nyUsdV5qrAwdm0Pymwd68D8bFkYXQnmperVh09srjeql 82io/TEkbG+om3vld4zOf2N0k+wKMN4EgIzBHc/yqOd8j8GdrU2NTY3qeBMFwmClpv R1pPy9OFuGuj856sAxa4LdHDJAO98G6jJLs9aRA8+JEFO1zr+Teyrkc36oU/ZK6ACI Dl2VDfLcA12h09y5bCDAYFUR48iELf8W35+OfWg2ubaGLW1tVCvbyAH80PB8qsFr1v nexiLvhokOT5AZ32aXZg4K7HNaAKTR32pa4r8JIEGnT0IlYxuXIX+/YiNfJ5Dbtarp S4Eq7bpB/sa0fTqBMLTVpUBntsnJjQcpETCLQAtUC1GnnLEzluxAZTI1TKBop/Sobq zd3DpqETus/egXhqjUH6LczApoJpGTWhAWPHbj4Y0wWdJQrxvjiOLvyFTkAmnv6YAN M023Djce1W3lsjC4ZtIMLNnNsVCjci0kb3Fad0YoDe3vYmwl6Bdvr6xtLpRSenTy4W GAZjK9xq7pqkQNxlrKSt21t6hJea3+ej33jeQ9+Roh9tAelwWKu1hL+8C0+vJfH3Kq DkCrirtA914UhUnSEgyGrfFnYXtqytYZRpxfwRtKqH6+hb5E5SwbhI0oWT7p8oOXeZ CXiCgl+1IumTH8f6+DnYeA5Q= Received: from 99.100.19.101 (99-100-19-101.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:TLSv1.3:Kx=any:Au=any:Enc=AESGCM(128):Mac=AEAD) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2023 19:36:13 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2023 19:36:13 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: VirtualBox 7.0, FreeBSD 12.4-RELEASE-amd64, ZFS, and bootpool Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[holgerdanske.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[holgerdanske.com:s=nov-20210719-112354]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:184.104.0.0/15, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[holgerdanske.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T2lCB1hzNz4KXK X-Spamd-Bar: --- freebsd-questions: If I use VirtualBox 7.0 (on Debian 11.8 amd64) to create a FreeBSD-12.4-RELEASE-amd64 virtual machine with BIOS (MBR), ZFS boot, encrypted swap, and encrypted ZFS root, the boot pool is not imported automatically when the system boots: root@geneweb:~ # freebsd-version ; uname -a 12.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD geneweb 12.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 12.4-RELEASE-p9 GENERIC amd64 root@geneweb:~ # zpool import pool: bootpool id: 16038363864467226171 state: ONLINE action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier. config: bootpool ONLINE ada0s1a ONLINE Why? I have seen the defect since FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-amd64. I do not know if it was present earlier. How do I arrange for bootpool to be imported automatically at boot? 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From: Alexander Burke To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: VirtualBox 7.0, FreeBSD 12.4-RELEASE-amd64, ZFS, and bootpool List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Correlation-ID: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T2sq04yXVz3GMZ Hi David, FreeBSD 11 is deprecated and out of support. Have you tried with a newer ve= rsion? Quite a few changes to ZFS have happened since then, including the s= witch to OpenZFS. Cheers, Alex ---------------------------------------- Dec 31, 2023 04:36:42 David Christensen : > freebsd-questions: >=20 > If I use VirtualBox 7.0 (on Debian 11.8 amd64) to create a FreeBSD-12.4-R= ELEASE-amd64 virtual machine with BIOS (MBR), ZFS boot, encrypted swap, and= encrypted ZFS root, the boot pool is not imported automatically when the s= ystem boots: >=20 > root@geneweb:~ # freebsd-version ; uname -a > 12.4-RELEASE-p9 > FreeBSD geneweb 12.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 12.4-RELEASE-p9 GENERIC=C2=A0 amd= 64 >=20 > root@geneweb:~ # zpool import > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pool: bootpool > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 id: 16038363864467226171 > =C2=A0=C2=A0 state: ONLINE > =C2=A0 action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identif= ier. > =C2=A0 config: >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 bootpool=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ONLINE > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ada0s1a=C2=A0=C2=A0 ONLINE >=20 >=20 > Why? >=20 >=20 > I have seen the defect since FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-amd64.=C2=A0 I do not k= now if it was present earlier. >=20 >=20 > How do I arrange for bootpool to be imported automatically at boot? 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>> >> >> I have seen the defect since FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-amd64.  I do not know if it was present earlier. >> >> >> How do I arrange for bootpool to be imported automatically at boot? > FreeBSD 11 is deprecated and out of support. Have you tried with a > newer version? Quite a few changes to ZFS have happened since then, > including the switch to OpenZFS. Regarding FreeBSD versions, please re-read my post (above). Regarding FreeBSD ZFS changes, I am reminded of the recent OpenZFS data destruction bug. And, I recall issues when I evaluated FreeBSD 13/ OpenZFS in the past. I am not inclined to trust my data to OpenZFS unless and until I see improvements in their processes, validation of their processes and code by reputable entities, and no defects discovered for "long enough". This means FreeBSD 13 is not an option for me at this time. But the major problem is that FreeBSD EoL'd 12.4R today: https://www.freebsd.org/security/#sup I am screwed. I think the 12.xR line should have continued until OpenZFS is proven and until the FreeBSD 12->13 upgrade boot loader OpenZFS bug is fixed. 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I do not kno= w > if it was present earlier. > >> > >> > >> How do I arrange for bootpool to be imported automatically at boot? > > > > FreeBSD 11 is deprecated and out of support. Have you tried with a > > newer version? Quite a few changes to ZFS have happened since then, > > including the switch to OpenZFS. > > > Regarding FreeBSD versions, please re-read my post (above). > > > Regarding FreeBSD ZFS changes, I am reminded of the recent OpenZFS data > destruction bug. And, I recall issues when I evaluated FreeBSD 13/ > OpenZFS in the past. I am not inclined to trust my data to OpenZFS > unless and until I see improvements in their processes, validation of > their processes and code by reputable entities, and no defects > discovered for "long enough". This means FreeBSD 13 is not an option > for me at this time. > > > But the major problem is that FreeBSD EoL'd 12.4R today: > > https://www.freebsd.org/security/#sup > > > I am screwed. > > > I think the 12.xR line should have continued until OpenZFS is proven and > until the FreeBSD 12->13 upgrade boot loader OpenZFS bug is fixed. > It's not like zfs is mandatory. I run FreeBSD 15-CURRENT on my system with UFS and no boot issues. No requirement for ZFS. The installer gives you the option of either file system. --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --0000000000007353ba060ddacec4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 3:11=E2= =80=AFPM David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
On 12/31/23 00:34, A= lexander Burke wrote:
> Dec 31, 2023 04:36:42 David Christensen wrote:
>> freebsd-questions:
>>
>> If I use VirtualBox 7.0 (on Debian 11.8 amd64) to create a FreeBSD= -12.4-RELEASE-amd64 virtual machine with BIOS (MBR), ZFS boot, encrypted sw= ap, and encrypted ZFS root, the boot pool is not imported automatically whe= n the system boots:
>>
>> root@geneweb:~ # freebsd-version ; uname -a
>> 12.4-RELEASE-p9
>> FreeBSD geneweb 12.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 12.4-RELEASE-p9 GENERIC=C2= =A0 amd64
>>
>> root@geneweb:~ # zpool import
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pool: bootpool
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 id: 16038363864467226171
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 state: ONLINE
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 action: The pool can be imported using its name or nu= meric identifier.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 config:
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 bootpool=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ONLINE
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ada0s1a=C2=A0=C2=A0 ONLINE >>
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>
>> I have seen the defect since FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-amd64.=C2=A0 I d= o not know if it was present earlier.
>>
>>
>> How do I arrange for bootpool to be imported automatically at boot= ?


=C2=A0> FreeBSD 11 is deprecated and out of support. Have you tried with= a
=C2=A0> newer version? Quite a few changes to ZFS have happened since th= en,
=C2=A0> including the switch to OpenZFS.


Regarding FreeBSD versions, please re-read my post (above).


Regarding FreeBSD ZFS changes, I am reminded of the recent OpenZFS data destruction bug.=C2=A0 And, I recall issues when I evaluated FreeBSD 13/ OpenZFS in the past.=C2=A0 I am not inclined to trust my data to OpenZFS unless and until I see improvements in their processes, validation of
their processes and code by reputable entities, and no defects
discovered for "long enough".=C2=A0 This means FreeBSD 13 is not = an option
for me at this time.


But the major problem is that FreeBSD EoL'd 12.4R today:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.freebsd.org/security/#sup=


I am screwed.


I think the 12.xR line should have continued until OpenZFS is proven and until the FreeBSD 12->13 upgrade boot loader OpenZFS bug is fixed.

It's not like zfs is mandatory. I r= un FreeBSD 15-CURRENT on my system with UFS and no boot issues. No requirem= ent for ZFS. The installer gives you the option of either file system.
<= /div>
--
<= /div>
Kevin Oberman, Part= time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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>>>> >>>> >>>> I have seen the defect since FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-amd64. I do not know >> if it was present earlier. >>>> >>>> >>>> How do I arrange for bootpool to be imported automatically at boot? >> >> >> > FreeBSD 11 is deprecated and out of support. Have you tried with a >> > newer version? Quite a few changes to ZFS have happened since then, >> > including the switch to OpenZFS. >> >> >> Regarding FreeBSD versions, please re-read my post (above). >> >> >> Regarding FreeBSD ZFS changes, I am reminded of the recent OpenZFS data >> destruction bug. And, I recall issues when I evaluated FreeBSD 13/ >> OpenZFS in the past. I am not inclined to trust my data to OpenZFS >> unless and until I see improvements in their processes, validation of >> their processes and code by reputable entities, and no defects >> discovered for "long enough". This means FreeBSD 13 is not an option >> for me at this time. >> >> >> But the major problem is that FreeBSD EoL'd 12.4R today: >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/security/#sup >> >> >> I am screwed. >> >> >> I think the 12.xR line should have continued until OpenZFS is proven and >> until the FreeBSD 12->13 upgrade boot loader OpenZFS bug is fixed. >> > > It's not like zfs is mandatory. I run FreeBSD 15-CURRENT on my system with > UFS and no boot issues. No requirement for ZFS. The installer gives you the > option of either file system. I agree that replacing my FreeBSD 12.4R ZFS OS disks with FreeBSD 13.2R UFS OS disks should prevent OpenZFS bugs from affecting the OS. While I like ZFS-on-root, I could live with UFS. But, I very much want my data on ZFS. The problem is that the recent FreeBSD 13/ OpenZFS 2 bugs tell me that they are not as stable as I would like. Is it possible to use Illumos ZFS on FreeBSD 13? I do not see a relevant port: https://ports.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=zfs&stype=text&sektion=all David From nobody Tue Jan 2 04:31:09 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T40Kg6nvgz56BcY for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 04:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from ns.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "discoveriesinwood.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T40Kf6dHxz4dwK for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 04:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.151.122] (breakaway.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.122]) by ns.dreamchaser.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 4024V9qo048794 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:31:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <4ef65352-b399-4aa8-8864-6788cc763cf8@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:31:09 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: libreoffice printing portrait as landscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 01 Jan 2024 21:31:10 -0700 (MST) for IP:'192.168.151.122' DOMAIN:'breakaway.dreamchaser.org' HELO:'[192.168.151.122]' FROM:'freebsd@dreamchaser.org' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 01 Jan 2024 21:31:10 -0700 (MST) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.978]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.923]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.79)[-0.794]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T40Kf6dHxz4dwK X-Spamd-Bar: -- I've had a problem for some time with 12.4, and after upgrading to 13.2 still have the same problem: Libreoffice, and only libreoffice, prints portrait as landscape. If I have it print to file and then print the pdf via xpdf, it prints fine as landscape. Printing is via cups. 13.2-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p8 GENERIC amd64 libreoffice-7.6.2.1 Is anyone else seeing this problem, or even printing from libreoffice? Thanks, Gary From nobody Tue Jan 2 12:26:38 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T4BtP0PQHz55HPp for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 12:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xpetrl@beepc.ch) Received: from srv.fastssdserver.com (srv.fastssdserver.com [38.101.149.180]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T4BtN0Vx7z4VwW for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2024 12:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xpetrl@beepc.ch) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=beepc.ch header.s=default header.b=iSvRaJzH; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of xpetrl@beepc.ch designates 38.101.149.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=xpetrl@beepc.ch; dmarc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=beepc.ch; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:From:To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vUCDZUMTMYJFkq35GYZPKliM4TjU2lUeklrCbGsl4qk=; b=iSvRaJzHw2xKTe3AjDb58snWzv n3eABeqFiXl8ZYKXdzJVBGiuqz6Th6MFqMldCkH8gEFpoTDKMr4ncdKp2OgGHZFnVGU1V5xi9ZsBd iJY/DBnXTyBP4PjU+SOoPVWhPMQKBlfOegd3cuvXgFlxTUVNSJ0n+k+Eo7IGMnEMGzlNkJ5vBK4Gw 5yWf4Y5a92F97wKBok8rgkcDka9iBNpP5l+VRuWLULgi0Umd2SlEH2u9mPtPj9gS/Pd4ObstZ3osY 1jy7lWgqayj6mzTSMmoHwZUf2RcTL5gPG6b1Foz2Jnkff86WpINKbzFxuXezPHBLz2gfPubJ3q+Ho GfCC/ClQ==; Received: from [185.20.203.216] (port=46050 helo=[192.168.28.53]) by srv.fastssdserver.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rKdr6-008gn6-2x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2024 05:26:45 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2024 13:26:38 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Language: en-US From: xpetrl Subject: OT: No BSD at FOSDEM 2024? 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I noticed that at FOSDEM 2024, BSD has no DevRoom and no Stand. It really surprising not seeing BSD, because for the past 15th edition BSD had a DevRoom and some Stands. 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I want to collect > CPU performance metrics such as IPC, L1/L2/L3 miss rate, TLB miss rate, > etc. To my surprise, I don't find any tool that supports collecting > this data. > > I find that FreeBSD has support for collecting this data using hwpmc, > but hwpmc only supports the AMD K7 and K8 architecture. Is someone > planning to add support for AMD Zen cores? If not, I can help add this > support. Try asking on the freebsd-hackers list. -- Kevin P. 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However, previous environments work: #zfs list zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p9_2024-01-03_150553 1.68M 171G 11.0G / zroot/ROOT/14.0-RELEASE-p4_2024-01-03_135644 88.8M 171G 10.6G / zroot/ROOT/default 38.3G 171G 10.5G / What's the proper way, for me to rollback so to the last working environment: zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p9_2024-01-03_150553 1.68M 171G 11.0G / And have that as the boot default environment again? --00000000000095f325060e05c8c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had some problems upgrading to FREEBSD 14.0 from 13.2, and r= ollback didn't quite fix it, and now the default FreeBSD boot environme= nt of zroot/ROOT/default and it won't boot anymore.

However, p= revious environments work:

#zfs list

zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-= p9_2024-01-03_150553=C2=A0 1.68M =C2=A0 171G =C2=A0 =C2=A0 11.0G =C2=A0/
z= root/ROOT/14.0-RELEASE-p4_2024-01-03_135644 =C2=A088.8M =C2=A0 171G =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 10.6G =C2=A0/
zroot/ROOT/default =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 38.3G =C2= =A0 171G =C2=A0 =C2=A0 10.5G =C2=A0/

What's the proper way, for = me to rollback so to the last working environment:

zroot/ROOT/13.2-R= ELEASE-p9_2024-01-03_150553=C2=A0 1.68M =C2=A0 171G =C2=A0 =C2=A0 11.0G =C2= =A0/

And have that as the boot default environment again?







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On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 15:44, Khairil Yusof wrote: > I had some problems upgrading to FREEBSD 14.0 from 13.2, and rollback > didn't quite fix it, and now the default FreeBSD boot environment of > zroot/ROOT/default and it won't boot anymore. > > However, previous environments work: > > #zfs list > > zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p9_2024-01-03_150553 1.68M 171G 11.0G / > zroot/ROOT/14.0-RELEASE-p4_2024-01-03_135644 88.8M 171G 10.6G / > zroot/ROOT/default 38.3G 171G 10.5G / > > What's the proper way, for me to rollback so to the last working > environment: > > zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p9_2024-01-03_150553 1.68M 171G 11.0G / > > And have that as the boot default environment again? > > > > > > > > > --000000000000725cf2060e060d19 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Found it:

bectl(8) is what I'm looking for.

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On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 15:44, Khairil Yuso= f <khairil.yusof@gmail.com> wrote:
I had some problems upgrading to FREEBSD 14.0 from 13.2, and roll= back didn't quite fix it, and now the default FreeBSD boot environment = of zroot/ROOT/default and it won't boot anymore.

However, prev= ious environments work:

#zfs list

zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p9_= 2024-01-03_150553=C2=A0 1.68M =C2=A0 171G =C2=A0 =C2=A0 11.0G =C2=A0/
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zroo= t/ROOT/14.0-RELEASE-p4_2024-01-03_135644 =C2=A088.8M =C2=A0 171G =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 10.6G =C2=A0/
zroot/ROOT/default =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 38.3G =C2=A0 = 171G =C2=A0 =C2=A0 10.5G =C2=A0/

What's the proper way, for me t= o rollback so to the last working environment:

zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEA= SE-p9_2024-01-03_150553=C2=A0 1.68M =C2=A0 171G =C2=A0 =C2=A0 11.0G =C2=A0/=

And have that as the boot default environment again?


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--000000000000725cf2060e060d19-- From nobody Wed Jan 3 13:10:43 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T4qpb4SRLz55qcD for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T4qpZ5QKvz4GXB for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de has no SPF policy when checking 80.67.18.16) smtp.mailfrom=markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de Received: from [92.51.170.137] (helo=app03-neu.ox.hosteurope.de) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.1) (envelope-from ) id 1rL119-0003ov-0m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Jan 2024 14:10:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 14:10:43 +0100 (CET) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Markus_H=C3=B6nicka?= To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <1837985103.680085.1704287443047@email.df.eu> In-Reply-To: <4ef65352-b399-4aa8-8864-6788cc763cf8@dreamchaser.org> References: <4ef65352-b399-4aa8-8864-6788cc763cf8@dreamchaser.org> Subject: Re: libreoffice printing portrait as landscape List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.6-Rev56 X-Originating-IP: 178.26.119.127 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Originating-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.36 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.90)[0.903]; R_MIXED_CHARSET(0.56)[subject]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[80.67.18.16:from]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mhoenicka.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8972, ipnet:80.67.16.0/20, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[80.67.18.16:from]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T4qpZ5QKvz4GXB > Gary Aitken hat am 2024-01-02 05:31 CET geschrieben: > > > I've had a problem for some time with 12.4, and after upgrading to > 13.2 still have the same problem: > > Libreoffice, and only libreoffice, prints portrait as landscape. > If I have it print to file and then print the pdf via xpdf, it > prints fine as landscape. Printing is via cups. > > 13.2-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p8 GENERIC amd64 > libreoffice-7.6.2.1 > > Is anyone else seeing this problem, or even printing from libreoffice? > > Thanks, > > Gary Hi Gary, I'm sorry for the late reply, but I needed to upgrade my slightly outdated setup first. FreeBSD wombat 13.2-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p8 GENERIC amd64 libreoffice-7.6.2.1 I'm also using CUPS for printing. I don't see your problem on this setup. A writer portrait document prints as portrait using the automatic orientation in the print dialog. Both the portrait and landscape manual settings are honored properly. regards, Markus From nobody Thu Jan 4 06:06:57 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T5GMG5m5rz55mhD for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from ns.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "discoveriesinwood.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T5GMG2Vzqz4TFj for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2024 06:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [192.168.151.122] (breakaway.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.122]) by ns.dreamchaser.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 40466vRp054668; Wed, 3 Jan 2024 23:06:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <49bcf42e-9523-43e2-95cf-2d23c4ef3902@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 23:06:57 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: libreoffice printing portrait as landscape Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?Markus_H=C3=B6nicka?= , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4ef65352-b399-4aa8-8864-6788cc763cf8@dreamchaser.org> <1837985103.680085.1704287443047@email.df.eu> From: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: <1837985103.680085.1704287443047@email.df.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 03 Jan 2024 23:06:57 -0700 (MST) for IP:'192.168.151.122' DOMAIN:'breakaway.dreamchaser.org' HELO:'[192.168.151.122]' FROM:'freebsd@dreamchaser.org' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 03 Jan 2024 23:06:57 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T5GMG2Vzqz4TFj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US] On 1/3/24 06:10, Markus Hönicka wrote: > >> Gary Aitken hat am 2024-01-02 05:31 CET >> geschrieben: >> >> >> I've had a problem for some time with 12.4, and after upgrading to >> 13.2 still have the same problem: >> >> Libreoffice, and only libreoffice, prints portrait as landscape. If >> I have it print to file and then print the pdf via xpdf, it prints >> fine as landscape. Printing is via cups. >> >> 13.2-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p8 GENERIC amd64 >> libreoffice-7.6.2.1 >> >> Is anyone else seeing this problem, or even printing from >> libreoffice? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gary > > Hi Gary, > > I'm sorry for the late reply, but I needed to upgrade my slightly > outdated setup first. > > FreeBSD wombat 13.2-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p8 GENERIC amd64 > libreoffice-7.6.2.1 > > I'm also using CUPS for printing. I don't see your problem on this > setup. A writer portrait document prints as portrait using the > automatic orientation in the print dialog. Both the portrait and > landscape manual settings are honored properly. > > regards, Markus Thanks for looking into it. It looks like it is a problem with large format printers only. 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I have successfully updated to 14.0-RELEASE, but the root shell is still /bin/csh. I want to use /bin/sh as it is now the one that should be the default. olivares@rosewill:~ $ pwd /home/olivares olivares@rosewill:~ $ su - Password: root@rosewill:~ # pwd /root root@rosewill:~ # echo $SHELL /bin/csh root@rosewill:~ # chsh -s /bin/sh root chsh: entry inconsistent chsh: pw_copy: Invalid argument root@rosewill:~ # getent passwd root root:$6$D6idTtEyP0dqMfLQ$6Q3rUSk56XPZeHPfLh82UnTgw7hTDKFQLGI0BKRZpiy59.NjVzHPULJw0O38dQqKEjWiW.4EMh3TX56Xittz81:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh root@rosewill:~ # uname -a FreeBSD rosewill 14.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Mon Dec 11 04:56:01 UTC 2023 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd64 Best Regards, Antonio From nobody Fri Jan 5 04:39:55 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T5rNT6fG8z56FM5 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-yw1-x1132.google.com (mail-yw1-x1132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T5rNT4mBlz4RRQ for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yw1-x1132.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-5e745891a69so11965827b3.2 for ; Thu, 04 Jan 2024 20:40:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; t=1704429608; x=1705034408; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=R/NfhHWSgfmCpzpEZwLM9muxaiFAiF4hlweibBHRHQI=; b=fnrn93UNAGlV6gxSSSY3MFfG5Fh4bG27VZGciF1MeX7FeB83atwYLyoSJ8bNXyZjIZ uxAkRByTKsNC7L+Ukbk5Gdp8ZiN0zL+G8AEKT4vr8JUDXtryVdUiFKIn81cA5B6UkrTz xiCcx8jtf0cVcAApSLcmJPrMdUwJ9kSST1vCWcoqVnL9lAZpFOvLmstTUITAS+3D13Oy jQ4auH3p36m0zs5uF76frxFUJF8dUqeObtKLFudVExf09QZil/PeJE+OTtnwPRqWXNOk tpkJK5OC4l5/elm+q3ixmUwddNnXRz9zMHMxjY+AiT5ZZky2Jk4bSbn3YrMfWMOY0gu5 hY4g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704429608; x=1705034408; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=R/NfhHWSgfmCpzpEZwLM9muxaiFAiF4hlweibBHRHQI=; b=tjw8HbZa4SMC3CuS33XwHuud7sEn5J0ywMzbff6050WUpN2Sf9obozv+V/FcjC5Op2 d9jiHnyxtMvIkiUg0BKeXd6mILqYn55297slNtHxuMrTUZkb67U19z0i9tMwrfvnf4CO uAdxFIQm8gOQLe9aEOdEyBXBKMRHt9UCefbnMQ3BjO9JibNZja7Rr1OyL1+vQELD8Udt 3nSBh5drdkYLUdWTnzhBqiLBT9Z4ExPEQjRnyYrsRwtXFedEkYUiai93PQ0VMRqtAAdl /if3jKukW67FUSN5b0//+qHP9cS35eC6EHLpmxRZRc4bvXGNwkf9rPpQJvJMlOHGuZLU SjVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz93r53N6UxPE4EYHFwXKHTxWbSNW3Z7+1mBTqoMp24kUe4wTeE /PkttVzSnLdTWENEW5q42J0x+PJZ8VszY7cSEgwQVRsbtQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEZAZMpPMmEsMN+84fGHGLcrJOwazYf+GPBZlaJc5iylRoOijAFSXlXHTvPo+2d9588GuVdBA== X-Received: by 2002:a81:c509:0:b0:5f5:64bb:55e0 with SMTP id k9-20020a81c509000000b005f564bb55e0mr1177861ywi.58.1704429608419; Thu, 04 Jan 2024 20:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw1-f178.google.com (mail-yw1-f178.google.com. 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FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[lists]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::c36:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T5tqj6BL2z4qBM On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 12:26=E2=80=AFAM Antonio Olivares wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 12:21=E2=80=AFAM Alexander Moisseev < > wrote: > > > > On 05.01.2024 9:02, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > > > > root@rosewill:~ # pw root -s /bin/sh > > > pw: unknown keyword `root' > > > > > > > # pw usermod root -s /bin/sh > > > > Got an error before but now succeded. > > root@rosewill:~ # /usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd > root@rosewill:~ # pw usermod root -s /bin/sh > root@rosewill:~ # echo $SHELL > /bin/csh > root@rosewill:~ # > > Will log out and back in to see if it changed. > > > Best Regards, > > > Antonio Dear Sir & all, Problem has been corrected. Ran the command successfully and the shell has been changed. 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I have successfully updated to 14.0-RELEASE, > but the root shell is still /bin/csh. I want to use /bin/sh as it is > now the one that should be the default. the command: chsh is also very helpful. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook --------------MMXbWJ1m1ewZWZHuB1n80KCp Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Am 05.01.2024 um 07:33 schrieb Antonio Olivares:
I have a little problem.  I have successfully updated to 14.0-RELEASE,
but the root shell is still /bin/csh.  I want to use /bin/sh as it is
now the one that should be the default.

the command:

chsh

is also very helpful.

Gruß
Matthias

-- 

"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to
produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." --
Rich Cook
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Seibert" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: poudriere and deleting orphaned files Message-ID: <20240105125344.00003af0@seibercom.net> Reply-To: jerry@seibercom.net, questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 1.2.1 at mystic.seibercom.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2c:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[jerry@seibercom.net] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T6B0F2ZqJz59NX I want to delete orphaned ports. I found this supposed solution for poudreiere: poudriere ports -u -p -d -O Poudriere apparently does not have a "-O" option. Poudriere bombs out when I attempt to use it as shown above. Does poudriere have a method to remove orphaned ports? Thanks! 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Seibert: Regards, Jos > Does poudriere have a method to remove orphaned ports? poudriere-pkgclean(8) ? --------------TIvXUk8CYRCzQCLMzR88kmj2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerard E. Seibert: 
Regards,
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Does poudriere have a method to remove orphaned ports?
poudriere-pkgclean(8)?
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MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[proton.me:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T6pkM3TgXz4pyS This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------89ea25eb9ea1548af3ff998cc0aec866c5cfcd3c5f597a5af3b44c30616ca3ca Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary=---------------------9f9b483eee03ad5bb1886cc2c18bdcb1 -----------------------9f9b483eee03ad5bb1886cc2c18bdcb1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 On Saturday, January 6th, 2024 at 11:59 AM, J. wr= ote: > I'm attempting to install the port Linux WPS Office [1], but the install= ation process is halted with a few error messages. As a FreeBSD/UNIX neoph= yte, I have difficulty understanding these errors and how to resolve them. > Being in the proper ports directory, I do: make install clean > The installation (or should I say: compilation) process is ultimately ha= lted with these error messages: > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DBEGIN QUOTE=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D install -m 444 /usr/ports/devel/bsddialog/work/bsddialog-1.0.1/utility/bs= ddialog.1 /usr/ports/devel/bsddialog/work/stage/compat/linux/man/man1/ =3D=3D=3D=3D> Compressing man pages (compress-man) =3D=3D=3D> Installing for bsddialog-1.0.1 =3D=3D=3D> Checking if bsddialog is already installed =3D=3D=3D> bsddialog-1.0.1 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of bsddialog without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 > > =3D=3D=3D> Options unchanged > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for linux_base-c7-7.9.2009_1 > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if linux_base-c7 is already installed > =3D=3D=3D> Registering installation for linux_base-c7-7.9.2009_1 as au= tomatic > Installing linux_base-c7-7.9.2009_1... > pkg-static: Fail to rename /compat/linux/.pkgtemp.bin.4XYbNS1wvM7O -> /c= ompat/linux/bin:Is a directory > ELF interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found, error 2 > Abort trap > ELF interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 not found, error 2 > *** Error code 1 Hi J. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about ports installations can= provide more guidance, but my first impression here is that you have miss= ing libraries. 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Sat, 06 Jan 2024 11:58:22 -0800 (PST) From: Juan Manuel Palacios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) Subject: Moving /etc/rc.conf.local to /usr/local/etc/rc.conf Message-Id: <1C01310F-7F1E-49D8-B480-1BEAA9EFF809@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:58:11 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; 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I=E2=80=99m = happy to be pointed to existing answers if they exist, though. Basically, my question is if it=E2=80=99s possible to use something like = /usr/local/etc/rc.conf to configure stuff like services that should = start on system boot, rather than putting that stuff in = /etc/rc.conf.local (or /etc/rc.conf, for that matter). And the context = of my question is that lately I=E2=80=99ve been looking for ways to = simplify my jail management as I move through several of them for = multiple reasons (major userland upgrades, major application upgrades, = etc.), and one thing I find myself doing more-and-more is extracting all = sorts of configuration to mounts, with /urs/local/etc being one of them = (and turning the jails themselves more-and-more into disposable units). So, if I have a configs directory mounted onto jail A=E2=80=99s = /usr/local/etc, and at some point I want to upgrade that jail to its = successor jail B, moving that same mount to the latter=E2=80=99s = /usr/local/etc makes upgrading a breeze. The only problem I have is that = this process fails to capture the configurations made in rc.conf(5). The best technique I=E2=80=99ve come up with so far to remediate this = problem is indeed creating a /usr/local/etc/rc.conf file, which I = configure to my liking, and then symlink=E2=80=99ing /etc/rc.conf.local = to it. But, other than having to remember to create the symlink in the = new jail, I keep thinking that there must be a better way that=E2=80=99d = keep my local configurations fully out of /etc. So, is there a reason why rc(8) supporting (or me =E2=80=9Cforcing=E2=80=9D= it to support via my symlink) a /usr/local/etc/rc.conf file would be a = bad idea? Or would this be a worthy enhancement to rc(8)? Thank you in advance for any help!= From nobody Sat Jan 6 21:48:44 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T6v8t6SHYz55ZFZ for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T6v8t4R8Wz4Gnr for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 28136 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2024 21:48:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=6de46599cabc.k2401; bh=tJJKFNB0njPVp70qNxUgo/JtpP7EBV6nBwgDLx4DbeY=; b=kRhtanBMyYeGA/bLyKceLGy4CdIXjTA3NIvQU5W0M+4yqUbdg6Vie1MAiTqZ009OwRMcIg9FT/tnVmp9y5ecH0ceWyBH14QIB1+DBQG+zVkRC8FchHsaNEvwFUs2KpPtFgV6BIw2G5jw74kvpNw/ZqF2cF5gxo9JPxnL8nkKwKQmj8cwA6PRcXYQsozR4zuxGMJKzY5bhcaT9pqhqFgXxJQusQQmFKBvh9k/LcD6HxsmhL3ZuM2rj+CpA47xOhebIzge9tFxTXZq7QiG9W3HTlLT5BvLObhMG4sq/zgh7WsJ7RwhD3oXuR84hVqqqGXAysdom0tX9IWUCrAWmBPJrw== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 06 Jan 2024 21:48:44 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5B9DA7FE2A02; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:48:44 -0500 (EST) Date: 6 Jan 2024 16:48:44 -0500 Message-Id: <20240106214844.5B9DA7FE2A02@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: jmpalacios@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving /etc/rc.conf.local to /usr/local/etc/rc.conf In-Reply-To: <1C01310F-7F1E-49D8-B480-1BEAA9EFF809@gmail.com> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T6v8t4R8Wz4Gnr X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] It appears that Juan Manuel Palacios said: >Hi everyone, > >I’m new on this mailing list (though not to FreeBSD proper), so apologies if this question has already been beaten to death, but I couldn’t find any >discussions on the topic anywhere. I’m happy to be pointed to existing answers if they exist, though. > >Basically, my question is if it’s possible to use something like /usr/local/etc/rc.conf to configure stuff like services that should start on system boot, >rather than putting that stuff in /etc/rc.conf.local (or /etc/rc.conf, for that matter). The fifth paragraph of the rc.conf(5) man page appears to answer this question. 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I=E2=80=99m happy to be pointed to = existing answers if they exist, though. >>=20 >> Basically, my question is if it=E2=80=99s possible to use something = like /usr/local/etc/rc.conf to configure stuff like services that should = start on system boot, >> rather than putting that stuff in /etc/rc.conf.local (or = /etc/rc.conf, for that matter). >=20 > The fifth paragraph of the rc.conf(5) man page appears to answer this = question. Thank you for pointing out that entry in the rc.conf(5) man page! I = guess I either didn=E2=80=99t pay too much attention to it at first, = and/or I was thrown off either by the meaning of =E2=80=9C(dir)=E2=80=9D = in that paragraph, which I can only assume maps to /usr/local/etc (but I = still haven=E2=80=99t tested to confirm that), or by the fact that you = can only use =E2=80=9C(name)=E2=80=9D configuration files inside = rc.conf.d within =E2=80=9C(dir)=E2=80=9D, rather than just a plain = rc.conf file within =E2=80=9C(dir)=E2=80=9D. So, if I=E2=80=99m I=E2=80=99m understanding correctly, that=E2=80=99d = mean that I can have configuration files (*NOT* script files, which = would go inside =E2=80=9C(dir)=E2=80=9D/rc.d) such as: /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/apache24 /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/php-fpm but not a single one named: /usr/local/etc/rc.conf So, if that=E2=80=99s correct, why the seeming deviation from what = appears to be the norm of /etc/foo, for base system configurations, and = /usr/local/etc/foo, for local configurations? That can be seen, e.g., in = pkg.conf(5), and if I=E2=80=99m not mistaken for multiple other tools. = Why would rc(8) offer /etc/rc.conf & /etc/rc.conf.local instead? >=20 > R's, > John Thanks,= From nobody Sun Jan 7 04:10:31 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T73dP6yx4z56PbW for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 04:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T73dP4nTgz4wnM for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 04:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 90881 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2024 04:10:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=162ff659a2438.k2401; bh=QTEEGNd7rOlrDLq9n2B6i4cB/VbEAG/xDdNr8ci2/90=; b=LNuMaZSzJyfxfYGSxsUsYI5fuCWgWZ/ejhutbfgPMwetDGKCZXQ5SypuXXV6wKzb06rVbmjhBaQYMv2gsvNLH4rnvF2aTeg3YxaGtV3/byyssMoubJpVTUei+iLDOJnDiYy/Gud/Sd/HruyFKxeuFqlC+3Zxt6urpvuQCvmrG9LZ3MspU9P7WdAUNrzZqUsxUh1NKDqfMnIzWlvkiKtEkU3Fq2cszMZIUVmfc6DoVMv6+1b6R75t75GHf3gLMZeo2es7tfjQoJsSAhjgS5NZP04uvgO8PPGTV5D9hrB2PEMNWa7g98/cl88N7H6dMbmxwhdRpaI8GqZLFAl/ez7tQg== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 07 Jan 2024 04:10:32 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id BE6977FE5902; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ary.qy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D3F7FE58E4; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:10:31 -0500 (EST) Date: 6 Jan 2024 23:10:31 -0500 Message-ID: <73678f67-e49f-365a-da09-5575619d736b@iecc.com> From: "John R. Levine" To: "Juan Manuel Palacios" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-X-Sender: johnl@ary.qy Subject: Re: Moving /etc/rc.conf.local to /usr/local/etc/rc.conf In-Reply-To: <158D9F44-5633-4B4E-A781-834574F42F67@gmail.com> References: <20240106214844.5B9DA7FE2A02@ary.qy> <158D9F44-5633-4B4E-A781-834574F42F67@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T73dP4nTgz4wnM X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] > Thank you for pointing out that entry in the rc.conf(5) man page! I guess I either didn’t pay too much attention to it at first, and/or I was thrown off either by the meaning of “(dir)” in that paragraph, which I can only assume maps to /usr/local/etc (but I still haven’t tested to confirm that), or by the fact that you can only use “(name)” configuration files inside rc.conf.d within “(dir)”, rather than just a plain rc.conf file within “(dir)”. > > So, if I’m I’m understanding correctly, that’d mean that I can have configuration files (*NOT* script files, which would go inside “(dir)”/rc.d) such as: > > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/apache24 > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d/php-fpm Sure. > but not a single one named: > > /usr/local/etc/rc.conf Um, if you'd read to the end of that paragraph, you'd have found rc_conf_files which lists individual files to include. These are just files of shell commands that are included by the startup scripts. Take a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf (described in the third paragraph of that same man page) and see what it does. 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