From nobody Mon Jul 15 20:24:37 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WNDFp5JYrz5Rb2g for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from sfo.umpquanet.com (sfo.umpquanet.com [104.245.33.249]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "umpquanet.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WNDFn4VTCz4fJM for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=umpquanet.com header.s=20231023 header.b=nJgreMMy; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com designates 104.245.33.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com Received: from sfo.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sfo.umpquanet.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 46FKObQq033930 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=umpquanet.com; s=20231023; t=1721075077; bh=7hYWmypnvcEfS9dPk9sImrGW2r8ydiS+XLe27FaFgVg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=nJgreMMyuy4ODEi3b+Vv/NTwY4rNOtZib8hJmrT8pexpap6YhLqZFbjf8iXhl1EZx XZ9T2oOeYB+aZo9tMLjA4Siio72eajay35NLXgxl+sobGSJjlW7KxcTLzLsAaQbOms OIfYi72HeUT/TzDck2datasGzhxqWeGnXomFQXgMUj8Ot5aV3gt0rAel0GJpyEFM7e QuQHz+BqdmIrW5zo1fqNfW9//0R/4ecIqu5ofZZLYrYHagG33Of4GLrTUr6dYyQhRg RJtxDMlx0eAKF1K1HXeUY45+1ImZG1nSGZVivI98AA8S9NjAcCXfNMXS9cmlzG0f38 UO0N/AyFPR7mg== Received: (from james@localhost) by sfo.umpquanet.com (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 46FKObhI033929; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sfo.umpquanet.com: james set sender to freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:24:37 -0700 From: Jim Long To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unable to limit memory consumption with vfs.zfs.arc_max Message-ID: References: <4299f196-1fbe-4590-8668-d023d7044e8d@sentex.net> <3d2f7913-b91d-4d00-a9b4-f37cf1032fc0@app.fastmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3d2f7913-b91d-4d00-a9b4-f37cf1032fc0@app.fastmail.com> X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; RBL_SENDERSCORE(2.00)[104.245.33.249:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+a]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6364, ipnet:104.245.32.0/23, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[umpquanet.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[umpquanet.com:s=20231023]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[umpquanet.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WNDFn4VTCz4fJM Picking up this old thread since it's still vexing me.... On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 07:56:39AM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > > This is from FreeBSD 14 on an Dell R730 in the basement (primary purpose, poudriere, and PostgreSQL, and running four FreshPorts nodes): > > >From top: > > ARC: 34G Total, 14G MFU, 9963M MRU, 22M Anon, 1043M Header, 9268M Other > 18G Compressed, 41G Uncompressed, 2.28:1 Ratio > > % grep arc /boot/loader.conf > vfs.zfs.arc_max="36000M" > > Looks like the value to set is: > > % sysctl -a vfs.zfs.arc | grep max > vfs.zfs.arc.max: 37748736000 > > Perhaps not a good example, but this might be more appropriate: > > % grep vfs.zfs.arc.max /boot/loader.conf > vfs.zfs.arc_max="1200M" > > with top showing: > > ARC: 1198M Total, 664M MFU, 117M MRU, 3141K Anon, 36M Header, 371M Other > 550M Compressed, 1855M Uncompressed, 3.37:1 Ratio Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you chiming in. Unfortunately, I think I have those bases covered, although I'm open to anything I may have missed: # grep -i arc /boot/loader.conf /etc/sysctl.conf /boot/loader.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.max=4294967296 /boot/loader.conf:vfs.zfs.arc_max=4294967296 /boot/loader.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.min=2147483648 /etc/sysctl.conf:vfs.zfs.arc_max=4294967296 /etc/sysctl.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.max=4294967296 /etc/sysctl.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.min=2147483648 # top -b last pid: 16257; load averages: 0.80, 1.15, 1.18 up 0+02:03:34 12:05:06 55 processes: 2 running, 53 sleeping CPU: 11.7% user, 0.0% nice, 18.4% system, 0.1% interrupt, 69.9% idle Mem: 32M Active, 141M Inact, 11G Wired, 3958M Free ARC: 10G Total, 5143M MFU, 4679M MRU, 2304K Anon, 44M Header, 219M Other 421M Compressed, 4744M Uncompressed, 11.28:1 Ratio PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11057 root 1 127 0 59M 33M CPU0 0 60:16 82.28% ssh 11056 root 5 24 0 22M 12M pipewr 3 6:00 6.25% zfs 1619 snmpd 1 20 0 34M 14M select 0 0:06 0.00% snmpd 1344 root 1 20 0 14M 3884K select 3 0:03 0.00% devd 1544 root 1 20 0 13M 2776K select 3 0:01 0.00% syslogd 1661 root 1 68 0 22M 9996K select 0 0:01 0.00% sshd 1587 ntpd 1 20 0 23M 5876K select 1 0:00 0.00% ntpd 14391 root 1 20 0 22M 11M select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd 2098 root 1 20 0 24M 11M select 1 0:00 0.00% httpd 1904 root 1 20 0 24M 11M select 2 0:00 0.00% httpd 1870 root 1 20 0 19M 8688K select 2 0:00 0.00% sendmail 2067 root 1 20 0 19M 8688K select 1 0:00 0.00% sendmail 2066 65529 1 20 0 13M 4564K select 2 0:00 0.00% mathlm 1883 65529 1 20 0 11M 2772K select 3 0:00 0.00% mathlm 14397 root 1 20 0 14M 4568K wait 1 0:00 0.00% bash 1636 root 1 20 0 13M 2608K nanslp 0 0:00 0.00% cron 2082 root 1 20 0 13M 2560K nanslp 3 0:00 0.00% cron 1887 root 1 20 0 13M 2568K nanslp 2 0:00 0.00% cron # sysctl -a | grep m.u_evictable kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mfu_evictable_metadata: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mfu_evictable_data: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mru_evictable_metadata: 0 kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mru_evictable_data: 0 An mrtg graph is attached showing ARC bytes used (kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size) in green, vs. ARC bytes max (vfs.zfs.arc.max) in blue. We can see that daily, the ARC bytes used blows right past the 4G limit. Most days, it is brought under control by two reboots in /etc/crontab ("shutdown -r now" at 02:55, 05:35), although some days the system is too far gone by the time the cron job rolls around, and the system stays hung until I can get to the data center and power cycle it. I'm not very skilled at kernel debugging, but is a kernel PR in order? This has happened with a GENERIC kernel across at least two builds of 14-STABLE: FreeBSD 14.0-STABLE #0 stable/14-n267062-77205dbc1397: Thu Mar 28 12:12:02 PDT 2024 FreeBSD 14.1-STABLE #0 stable/14-n267886-4987c12cb878: Thu Jun 6 12:24:06 PDT 2024 Would it help to reproduce this with a -RELEASE version? Thank you again, everyone. Jim From nobody Mon Jul 15 20:41:15 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WNDct0k2hz5RcZr for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from sfo.umpquanet.com (sfo.umpquanet.com [104.245.33.249]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "umpquanet.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WNDcr5ZwGz4jdj for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=umpquanet.com header.s=20231023 header.b=iiaq0xj9; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com designates 104.245.33.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com Received: from sfo.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sfo.umpquanet.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 46FKfFdE034211 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=umpquanet.com; s=20231023; t=1721076075; bh=ss8tG6bnoNxzc/JrvEmFAS1DTmlHJoIfdKMeI7W/FGo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=iiaq0xj9mobjGoJJtyd5OZx2DpUzEn0Wmph44n1JybyqT71ugU9fRn9n+WrTodWjp PzF5lsVmeHXq1MuqaENUy+7hcgQkqjMplU8fopLUDK/5MjdgvVdyskVrb/ACKvOBzR UvYlfbYwUfcyeraHdi/yT+DmXPNNBjZMafjaiT90doQtvihA/8YXvLkNDyKvB033ik 6l7OsxH0qlPjEHgIL12g/PEQ+xN04OPNNSWovb0RqM8oGubjjNaaRQAeldmKGNq9VE hJWgyfB+4jCXnJJltX5U8jspcB42Saah+0I25q6h+FPK9+b7pw2P62AOzQhY80Spoh xcAyfW8nZXFTQ== Received: (from james@localhost) by sfo.umpquanet.com (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 46FKfF3f034210; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sfo.umpquanet.com: james set sender to freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:41:15 -0700 From: Jim Long To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to limit memory consumption with vfs.zfs.arc_max Message-ID: References: <4299f196-1fbe-4590-8668-d023d7044e8d@sentex.net> <3d2f7913-b91d-4d00-a9b4-f37cf1032fc0@app.fastmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fp5xN3iEGoS62Fc5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; RBL_SENDERSCORE(2.00)[104.245.33.249:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+a]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6364, ipnet:104.245.32.0/23, country:US]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[umpquanet.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[umpquanet.com:s=20231023]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[umpquanet.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WNDcr5ZwGz4jdj --fp5xN3iEGoS62Fc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline As Bugs Bunny often said, "What a maroon!" Here's the attached MRTG graph. On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 01:24:37PM -0700, Jim Long wrote: > Picking up this old thread since it's still vexing me.... > > On Sat, May 04, 2024 at 07:56:39AM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > > > > This is from FreeBSD 14 on an Dell R730 in the basement (primary purpose, poudriere, and PostgreSQL, and running four FreshPorts nodes): > > > > >From top: > > > > ARC: 34G Total, 14G MFU, 9963M MRU, 22M Anon, 1043M Header, 9268M Other > > 18G Compressed, 41G Uncompressed, 2.28:1 Ratio > > > > % grep arc /boot/loader.conf > > vfs.zfs.arc_max="36000M" > > > > Looks like the value to set is: > > > > % sysctl -a vfs.zfs.arc | grep max > > vfs.zfs.arc.max: 37748736000 > > > > Perhaps not a good example, but this might be more appropriate: > > > > % grep vfs.zfs.arc.max /boot/loader.conf > > vfs.zfs.arc_max="1200M" > > > > with top showing: > > > > ARC: 1198M Total, 664M MFU, 117M MRU, 3141K Anon, 36M Header, 371M Other > > 550M Compressed, 1855M Uncompressed, 3.37:1 Ratio > > Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you chiming in. > > Unfortunately, I think I have those bases covered, although I'm open to > anything I may have missed: > > # grep -i arc /boot/loader.conf /etc/sysctl.conf > /boot/loader.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.max=4294967296 > /boot/loader.conf:vfs.zfs.arc_max=4294967296 > /boot/loader.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.min=2147483648 > /etc/sysctl.conf:vfs.zfs.arc_max=4294967296 > /etc/sysctl.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.max=4294967296 > /etc/sysctl.conf:vfs.zfs.arc.min=2147483648 > > # top -b > last pid: 16257; load averages: 0.80, 1.15, 1.18 up 0+02:03:34 12:05:06 > 55 processes: 2 running, 53 sleeping > CPU: 11.7% user, 0.0% nice, 18.4% system, 0.1% interrupt, 69.9% idle > Mem: 32M Active, 141M Inact, 11G Wired, 3958M Free > ARC: 10G Total, 5143M MFU, 4679M MRU, 2304K Anon, 44M Header, 219M Other > 421M Compressed, 4744M Uncompressed, 11.28:1 Ratio > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 11057 root 1 127 0 59M 33M CPU0 0 60:16 82.28% ssh > 11056 root 5 24 0 22M 12M pipewr 3 6:00 6.25% zfs > 1619 snmpd 1 20 0 34M 14M select 0 0:06 0.00% snmpd > 1344 root 1 20 0 14M 3884K select 3 0:03 0.00% devd > 1544 root 1 20 0 13M 2776K select 3 0:01 0.00% syslogd > 1661 root 1 68 0 22M 9996K select 0 0:01 0.00% sshd > 1587 ntpd 1 20 0 23M 5876K select 1 0:00 0.00% ntpd > 14391 root 1 20 0 22M 11M select 3 0:00 0.00% sshd > 2098 root 1 20 0 24M 11M select 1 0:00 0.00% httpd > 1904 root 1 20 0 24M 11M select 2 0:00 0.00% httpd > 1870 root 1 20 0 19M 8688K select 2 0:00 0.00% sendmail > 2067 root 1 20 0 19M 8688K select 1 0:00 0.00% sendmail > 2066 65529 1 20 0 13M 4564K select 2 0:00 0.00% mathlm > 1883 65529 1 20 0 11M 2772K select 3 0:00 0.00% mathlm > 14397 root 1 20 0 14M 4568K wait 1 0:00 0.00% bash > 1636 root 1 20 0 13M 2608K nanslp 0 0:00 0.00% cron > 2082 root 1 20 0 13M 2560K nanslp 3 0:00 0.00% cron > 1887 root 1 20 0 13M 2568K nanslp 2 0:00 0.00% cron > > # sysctl -a | grep m.u_evictable > kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mfu_evictable_metadata: 0 > kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mfu_evictable_data: 0 > kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mru_evictable_metadata: 0 > kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.mru_evictable_data: 0 > > An mrtg graph is attached showing ARC bytes used > (kstat.zfs.misc.arcstats.size) in green, vs. ARC bytes max > (vfs.zfs.arc.max) in blue. We can see that daily, the ARC bytes used > blows right past the 4G limit. Most days, it is brought under control > by two reboots in /etc/crontab ("shutdown -r now" at 02:55, 05:35), > although some days the system is too far gone by the time the cron job > rolls around, and the system stays hung until I can get to the data > center and power cycle it. > > I'm not very skilled at kernel debugging, but is a kernel PR in order? > This has happened with a GENERIC kernel across at least two builds of > 14-STABLE: > > FreeBSD 14.0-STABLE #0 stable/14-n267062-77205dbc1397: Thu Mar 28 12:12:02 PDT 2024 > FreeBSD 14.1-STABLE #0 stable/14-n267886-4987c12cb878: Thu Jun 6 12:24:06 PDT 2024 > > Would it help to reproduce this with a -RELEASE version? > > > Thank you again, everyone. > > Jim --fp5xN3iEGoS62Fc5 Content-Type: image/png Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="arc-month.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAArwAAAGzBAMAAAFILemuAAAAHlBMVEX19fXCwsJkZGT/AAAA zAAAAAAAZgDvn0//AP8AAP/G7XGyAAAACXBIWXMAAA7EAAAOxAGVKw4bAAARTUlEQVR4nO1d 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<4299f196-1fbe-4590-8668-d023d7044e8d@sentex.net> <3d2f7913-b91d-4d00-a9b4-f37cf1032fc0@app.fastmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:59:00 -0400 From: "Dan Langille" To: "Jim Long" Cc: "RW via freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: Unable to limit memory consumption with vfs.zfs.arc_max Content-Type: text/plain X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209242, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WNF1l6gxQz4lPh On Mon, Jul 15, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Jim Long wrote: > As Bugs Bunny often said, "What a maroon!" > > Here's the attached MRTG graph. So, fixed? -- Dan Langille dan@langille.org From nobody Mon Jul 15 21:35:58 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WNFr349SBz5QDbv for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from sfo.umpquanet.com (sfo.umpquanet.com [104.245.33.249]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "umpquanet.com", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WNFr31n5gz4qfr for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from sfo.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sfo.umpquanet.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 46FLa0lu034633 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=umpquanet.com; s=20231023; t=1721079360; bh=a03BNhntlOnH41bBK5SCVXNDRDCtoUhPdasID8n0fno=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=YtjynH10HPNhv2tnJ1Xz8JvYvoejHfT76UZZR+GH5CF9/CKjkj7C2jGr/1kjiUwq1 TRMD8qXVxsobGkFVeQwW512s6MnoiNqviwhoahrz5/AQuy643d7X1VRLbygj5KEBKj bENOSVgQLgFEC6voOZK2iWy4zEAYAMl9D8jIiQ3BILkbbmQMKhu045u03CJY8rDWJB v3LoCPufw5MLhPEY+IdxL2KP7ALM7sewlmVv2n952DEdNPl80qzf95tuYc5gdcRx7V PXWk2z9jcgw3BiWnQ798HDUQ186a5Kj904PinSFoBrkhdpTYHI221wXWUcdsB3E2yZ /G+ozEdBxaoEw== Received: (from james@localhost) by sfo.umpquanet.com (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 46FLZwL0034628; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sfo.umpquanet.com: james set sender to freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com using -f Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:35:58 -0700 From: Jim Long To: Dan Langille Cc: RW via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unable to limit memory consumption with vfs.zfs.arc_max Message-ID: References: <4299f196-1fbe-4590-8668-d023d7044e8d@sentex.net> <3d2f7913-b91d-4d00-a9b4-f37cf1032fc0@app.fastmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6364, ipnet:104.245.32.0/23, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WNFr31n5gz4qfr Heavens, no. I attached the graph as proof of what ARC is using (green) and what limit is set (blue). The ARC used frequently sails right past the 4G limit. It seems the daily periodic job is one task which can push the kernel to violate the vfs.zfs.arc_max limitation. On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 04:59:00PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Jim Long wrote: > > As Bugs Bunny often said, "What a maroon!" > > > > Here's the attached MRTG graph. > > So, fixed? > > -- > Dan Langille > dan@langille.org From nobody Mon Jul 15 22:37:41 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WNHCJ556Tz5QLXV for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WNHCH4kHgz41kS for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org designates 116.202.254.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sTUKI-0002Qv-7q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:37:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Shepelev Subject: Cannot seem to throttle individual cores with hwpstate_intel Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:37:41 +0300 Message-ID: <20240716013741.17158bb56952618f8d748515@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.85 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.853]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WNHCH4kHgz41kS Hello, all. In order to throttle the Intel Core i3-6006U 2 GHz CPU with four cores in my laptop, I did the following: 1. made sure hwpstate_intel is installed by: dmesg | grep hwpstate 2. disabled package-level control, to control the cores individually: machdep.hwpstate_pkg_ctrl=0 3. executed the following code: i=0 epp=0 while [ $i -lt 4 ]; do sysctl dev.hwpstate_intel.$i.epp=$epp; epp=100 i=$((i+1)); done Now, sysctl has: dev.hwpstate_intel.3.epp: 100 dev.hwpstate_intel.2.epp: 100 dev.hwpstate_intel.1.epp: 100 dev.hwpstate_intel.0.epp: 0 Yet it keeps reporting identical frequencies for all the four cores even without any heavy load: dev.cpu.3.freq: 1990 dev.cpu.1.freq: 1990 dev.cpu.2.freq: 1990 dev.cpu.0.freq: 1990 Is it correct behavior? I expected cores 1-3 to have a lower frequency... Judging by the observable speed and fan noise, the total throttling seems still to be determine by the maximum .epp, i.e. that hwpstate_pkg_ctrl has no effect. How could I verify and (if confimed) fix it? From nobody Tue Jul 16 09:35:22 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WNYpV625yz5QxKQ for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 09:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ax61@disroot.org) Received: from layka.disroot.org (layka.disroot.org [178.21.23.139]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WNYpV2bnkz54l4 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 09:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ax61@disroot.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C724740E40; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:35:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Received: from layka.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KUATB_aXUNhQ; Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:35:36 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6430E99A-084F-4EF6-8A2C-7A8C5DC0E2E8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1721122536; bh=fp0We1K/toQQU7mDJoxGV4+OJgHvlW4MhwBsar/GTfA=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:Cc:In-Reply-To:To; b=V3kvwMyqkKMzIfeuqB5OZtYqBlHReCbp6kyFl3CQ28e2/fzbIhwTQMHPIWFRKaz1G 5qkMga5yevF+ItzgbuL+ytXEAM7oLnv0Sap6SJZ0y/yN8hGJfaVoqr5FJ88PptoINW GkNdwwlkQnZtsJ2tEFkfdNFrt5AxjOPaBoZgGCln5tGKUvoncpIDJPfpUZWRl2QSKH jO6ybKw9Na/vlJFKnX5ibk5JVKMzjrORBDX6RL44Z+jEOuo/PX/X6odldX8e5tJAqh C4cTvdh8SXi6qsr7YixpxaxqHD1dqrSTk2iy6rapCDFfCjIAV498wbfdqab4XyV3HN 3jkNECWPgdxGg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ax disroo List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Unable to limit memory consumption with vfs.zfs.arc_max Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:35:22 -1000 Message-Id: <4A8DDEA3-CD0A-4294-BFEE-155E07B8EA18@disroot.org> References: Cc: Dan Langille , RW via freebsd-questions , freebsd questions In-Reply-To: To: Jim Long X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:50673, ipnet:178.21.23.0/24, country:NL] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WNYpV2bnkz54l4 --Apple-Mail-6430E99A-084F-4EF6-8A2C-7A8C5DC0E2E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Jul 15, 2024, at 11:36=E2=80=AFAM, Jim Long wrote: =E2=80=A6 > The ARC used frequently sails right past > the 4G limit. It seems the daily periodic job is one task which can > push the kernel to violate the vfs.zfs.arc_max limitation. =E2=80=A6 Have you tried these MIBs (set in loader.conf(5) or via sysctl(8), check tha= t) =E2=80=A6 - vfs.zfs.arc.free_target: Desired number of free pages below which ARC trig= gers reclaim; - vfs.zfs.arc.sys_free https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Performance%20= and%20Tuning/Module%20Parameters.html#zfs-arc-sys-free =E2=80=A6 ? - Anubhav= --Apple-Mail-6430E99A-084F-4EF6-8A2C-7A8C5DC0E2E8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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do sysctl dev.hwpstate_intel.$cpu.epp; sysctl dev.cpu.$cpu.freq; done dev.hwpstate_intel.0.epp: 50 dev.cpu.0.freq: 1450 dev.hwpstate_intel.1.epp: 50 dev.cpu.1.freq: 1165 dev.hwpstate_intel.2.epp: 50 dev.cpu.2.freq: 1248 dev.hwpstate_intel.3.epp: 50 dev.cpu.3.freq: 1152 dev.hwpstate_intel.4.epp: 50 dev.cpu.4.freq: 799 dev.hwpstate_intel.5.epp: 50 dev.cpu.5.freq: 799 dev.hwpstate_intel.6.epp: 50 dev.cpu.6.freq: 799 dev.hwpstate_intel.7.epp: 100 dev.cpu.7.freq: 799 (I have manually changed epp for the last core). -- Alexey I cannot receive HTML mail at this account. 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do sysctl dev.hwpstate_intel.$cpu.epp; sysctl dev.cpu.$cpu.freq; done dev.hwpstate_intel.0.epp: 50 dev.cpu.0.freq: 1450 dev.hwpstate_intel.1.epp: 50 dev.cpu.1.freq: 1165 dev.hwpstate_intel.2.epp: 50 dev.cpu.2.freq: 1248 dev.hwpstate_intel.3.epp: 50 dev.cpu.3.freq: 1152 dev.hwpstate_intel.4.epp: 50 dev.cpu.4.freq: 799 dev.hwpstate_intel.5.epp: 50 dev.cpu.5.freq: 799 dev.hwpstate_intel.6.epp: 50 dev.cpu.6.freq: 799 dev.hwpstate_intel.7.epp: 100 dev.cpu.7.freq: 799 (I have manually changed epp for the last core). -- Alexey I cannot receive HTML mail at this account. 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To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c7a647061d76e0dc" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2e:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPRYv6RTfz4bxl --000000000000c7a647061d76e0dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Trying to add disks to an old Dell box (has a Core 2 Quad processor). I bought this: SYBA 2-Port SATA II PCIe RAID Card Internal SIL3132 which, when installed in Core 2 Quad machine, FreeBSD starts to boot on "ad0", but then, when the driver for SIL3132 installs, it renames the drives, and now the SATA port on the PCIe card becomes "ad0", and then the boot dies in the middle as "ad0" goes away. How do I prevent the drive names from changing? Or can't I? Oh - Fresh install of FreeBSD 13.3 release, installed from DVD and then, updated via packages. The machine has "six" SATA ports, but only four connectors, so physical drives can be at ada0, ada1, ada4, and ada5. Weird, huh? Thanks, Bill Dudley NJ, USA --000000000000c7a647061d76e0dc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Trying to add disks to an old Dell = box (has a Core 2 Quad processor).

I bought this:<= /div>
SYBA 2-Port SATA II PCIe RAID Card Inter= nal SIL3132
which, when installed in Core 2 Quad machine, FreeBSD= starts to
boot on "ad0", but then, when the driver for SIL313= 2 installs, it
renames the drives, and now the SATA port on the PCIe car= d becomes
"ad0", and then the boot dies in the middle as "= ;ad0" goes away.

How do I prevent the drive n= ames from changing?=C2=A0 Or can't I?

Oh - Fre= sh install of FreeBSD 13.3 release, installed from DVD and then,
= updated via packages.

The machine has "six&qu= ot; SATA ports, but only four connectors, so physical
drives can = be at ada0, ada1, ada4, and ada5.=C2=A0 Weird, huh?

Thanks,
Bill Dudley
NJ, USA

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To: questions@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17/07/2024 20:58, William Dudley wrote: > How do I prevent the drive names from changing? Or can't I? > One of the following? * glabel(8) for gpart(8) disk partitions * tunefs(8) can add a label to UFS2 filesytems In either case a disk device using the label will appear under /dev, and you can use that in fstab(5) You might already have labels on your drive partitions: the FreeBSD installer creates them by default. Try `gpart show -l` to see. Or just use ZFS -- it knows its own drives, no matter what device the OS wants to call them. There's a fun party trick to take out the drives containing a ZFS pool, shuffle them around, reinstall and boot up again. Cheers, Matthew From nobody Wed Jul 17 22:02:21 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WPVK46jKHz5QTnH for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa1-x35.google.com (mail-oa1-x35.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::35]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WPVK44pQwz4r1d; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 22:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-oa1-x35.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-25e3d8d9f70so87392fac.2; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1721253719; x=1721858519; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ez+tgUTHpl3IXXO2goNiFozOa7upECawDtcYXM+80hM=; b=RpZFSL6AbE9hvrGR4nSOiMmoQDLzEgp1pihyZCSJX2DrxF82VZ3L6mEruJPdkScvE5 w5Hihb9a0FMc0/uzCu6tihYUzXLcoaxe9pupfiavY1ao3q68TArrQWM5a6QEwJFp4Ura Dh0ZRXaaLyPSfXoXz+xxEZ+JcJnEqpvGZ61oDsx544YOpvKNCeCMfmeB02lzjqr12vA2 +5qDXjoD7e2UTc1dA+K+pdyFiKwAAKvUtEW/gRc18UoOxlVWFHstZHhy7nXM5KP776m8 p6D2IrJhbuWbDP56BiVRR4aA6VNsSnLhi0puQJIsBYmMXYhjWG8MdbFzNPn2gyulrzuV QpEA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1721253719; x=1721858519; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ez+tgUTHpl3IXXO2goNiFozOa7upECawDtcYXM+80hM=; b=AwUhZauu5hQZpeKJCRQkOrt60otOUbkpsp96a5iLzgBguIMTphw4zzIkQ+XMVrSAPn dtVumI/uDFhIy9rqzhdUfj/GLZ45T17zj1zKmEYicrXb4pCgCbNQ3TvzhvExPDLmr3pI 7CuuJOtRHHprOmX3WJvQ64xUz0+BaLmqowx4bqCnfA9OnYkKg4yn2GZK0R5lDVQ5KpNw QT1AwbHFG4MSxzVLNHJ50kAqZk1Xm2EEvyg7kVuNZ6lBbh610dZSauvi1IEbMNHqDPvu rJ2DI7l+F1P7rb7RWzJPT4V1f4M9toO+CdaOu0sXtGRWBFUqZATXZT06uGcBG56+W665 e8OA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwZXEfDvxSG/YLwbJcE5hi3WalFy5I0uC0IA4cGoHlX0+xP8C2R /1oKilbk9d4XPwzt9lQHMUEzoyMff51qt/NbiV11GJ5qg7xjvrZVBpEBLB8ipMUFCzXPvYr+jHE YjcC42/bl6Li/Yq3SxQT0Z22Plohw0Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFhB9fAqjhni411njNgkQkVhBctrygcAiNYCDi1W6smQVh6y+jH7LV7pG1ySQpAnopOnSdbs+rJ523KtsdJwog= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:8a9:b0:260:3bdb:93a6 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-260d928a4fdmr2563303fac.46.1721253719099; Wed, 17 Jul 2024 15:01:59 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: William Dudley Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 18:02:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: add in SATA card -- ada0 "moves" to ad1, breaking the boot process ? To: Matthew Seaman Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007edd5e061d789c7b" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2001:4860:4864::/48, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPVK44pQwz4r1d --0000000000007edd5e061d789c7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks tunefs -L foo it is, then. Bill Dudley This email is free of malware because I run Linux. On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 4:33=E2=80=AFPM Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 17/07/2024 20:58, William Dudley wrote: > > How do I prevent the drive names from changing? Or can't I? > > > > One of the following? > > * glabel(8) for gpart(8) disk partitions > > * tunefs(8) can add a label to UFS2 filesytems > > In either case a disk device using the label will appear under /dev, and > you can use that in fstab(5) > > You might already have labels on your drive partitions: the FreeBSD > installer creates them by default. Try `gpart show -l` to see. > > Or just use ZFS -- it knows its own drives, no matter what device the OS > wants to call them. There's a fun party trick to take out the drives > containing a ZFS pool, shuffle them around, reinstall and boot up again. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > --0000000000007edd5e061d789c7b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks

tunefs -L foo it is, then.
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Bill Dudley
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On Wed, Jul 17, 2024= at 4:33=E2=80=AFPM Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:
On 17/07/2024 20:58, William Dudley wrote:
> How do I prevent the drive names from changing?=C2=A0 Or can't I?<= br> >

One of the following?

* glabel(8) for gpart(8) disk partitions

* tunefs(8) can add a label to UFS2 filesytems

In either case a disk device using the label will appear under /dev, and you can use that in fstab(5)

You might already have labels on your drive partitions: the FreeBSD
installer creates them by default.=C2=A0 Try `gpart show -l` to see.

Or just use ZFS -- it knows its own drives, no matter what device the OS wants to call them.=C2=A0 There's a fun party trick to take out the dri= ves
containing a ZFS pool, shuffle them around, reinstall and boot up again.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cheers,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Matthew

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To: Jan Beich Cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003f980f061d79b0e5" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1032:from]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPX236thxz4wrX --0000000000003f980f061d79b0e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Jan. I'm trying to install KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland on a fresh vm based on FreeBSD 14.1,following your instructions,but some point is not clear for me. When you say : > =3D=3D> sysrc seatd_enable=3D"YES" > Plasma cannot use seatd without https://github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/cheribsd-ports/commit/02e468a397ad So,I need to make you some questions : 1) Should I make the installation of plasma5-kwin from ports even if I want to install KDE Plasma 6 ? 2) How should I apply the patches ? Can you tell me if the procedure that I want to follow is correct ? I've downloaded these two files : a) https://github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/cheribsd-ports/blob/main/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin= /Makefile b) https://github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/cheribsd-ports/blob/main/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin= /files/cheribsd.patch Should I copy the Makefile file to : /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin ? Should I copy the cheribsd.patch file to : /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin/files ? and after that,should I do : # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin # mv Makefile Makefile_ # cp '/home/marietto/Desktop/cheribsd.patch' . # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin/files # cp '/home/marietto/Desktop/Makefile' . # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin # make make: "/usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin/Makefile" line 74: Malformed conditional (!${ABI:Mpurecap}) make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue make: stopped in /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin Something is not correct. On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 5:47=E2=80=AFPM Jan Beich wrote= : > Mario Marietto writes: > > > =3D=3D> pkg install plasma6-plasma kde6-devel > > Drop kde6-devel. It's obsolete and pulls other KDE stuff besides Plasma > like KDE Gear (aka applications) that can be used even on GNOME, XFCE, et= c. > > > =3D=3D> pkg install --glob "plasma6-*" > > =3D=3D> pkg install --glob "kf6-*" > > Unnecessary: already pulled by plasma6-plasma. > > > =3D=3D> sysrc seatd_enable=3D"YES" > > Plasma cannot use seatd without > https://github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/cheribsd-ports/commit/02e468a397ad > > > =3D=3D> sysrc -f /etc/rc.conf kld_list+=3D"nvidia-modeset nvidia- > > drm linux linux64 i915kms ext2fs mac_priority" > > nvidia-drm already loads nvidia-modeset. Moreover, loading > nvidia-modeset before nvidia-drm may not work. > > According to > https://www.freshports.org/graphics/nvidia-drm-61-kmod#message > you also need "sysctl hw.nvidiadrm.modeset=3D1" > > > export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=3D1 > > export __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=3D1 > > export __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=3Dnvidia > > export XDG_SESSION_TYPE=3Dwayland > > export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=3D/tmp/$USER/.xdg > > export CLUTTER_BACKEND=3Dwayland > > export SDL_VIDEODRIVER=3Dwayland > > export LIBGL_DRI3_ENABLE=3D1 > > export XKB_DEFAULT_RULES=3Devdev > > export QT_QPA_PLATFORM=3Dwayland-egl > > export QT_WAYLAND_DISABLE_WINDOWDECORATION=3D1 > > export BEMENU_BACKEND=3Dwayland > > export WLR_DRM_NO_ATOMIC=3D1 > > export XCURSOR_THEME=3Dwhiteglass > > #export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=3Dqt5ct > > export WLR_NO_HARDWARE_CURSORS=3D1 > > Looks like a cargo cult. Not only many of these are default but some may > even break Xwayland support in apps that don't support Wayland natively > yet such as emulators/wine* > > > [ -d $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR ] || mkdir -m 700 -p $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR > > Manually setting and creating XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is obsolete on FreeBSD >=3D= 14 > via pam_xdg(8). > > Besides, Plasma uses ConsoleKit2 which overrides XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and (if > the value is same) destroys existing contents. GUI apps started before > Plasma with different XDG_RUNTIME_DIR wouldn't be accessible from within > Plasma and may cause other issues. > > > exec dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startplasma- > > Plasma requires ConsoleKit2 session, so prepend ck-launch-session > like > https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/x11/plasma5-plasma-workspace/files/st= artplasma-wayland.sh > > > but I get the following errors : > > > > https://ibb.co/VNmW9Wn > > https://ibb.co/Hhd5y0Z > > https://ibb.co/XL1xtLH > > Do you have /dev/dri/card0 ? If not debug drm-kmod or nvidia-drm-kmod. > After that check if Wayfire works before going on Plasma journey. DEs > like Plasma are a pinnacle of complexity, so even experienced users can > easily drown in pilot errors. > > Plasma/Wayland 6.1.1 works fine for me but I've only tested under Sway. > If standalone Plasma/Wayland fails it's likely due to ConsoleKit2 again. > > --=20 Mario. --0000000000003f980f061d79b0e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Jan.

I'm tryi= ng to install KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland on a fresh vm based on FreeBSD 14.1= ,following your instructions,but some point is not clear for me. When you s= ay :

> =3D=3D> sysrc seatd_enable=3D&quo= t;YES"
> Plasma cannot use seatd without https://= github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/cheribsd-ports/commit/02e468a397ad

So,I need to make you some questions :

1) Should I make the installation of plasma5-kwin from po= rts even if I want to install KDE Plasma 6 ?
2) How should I appl= y the patches ? Can you tell me if the procedure that I want to follow is c= orrect ?

I've downloaded these two files = :


Should I copy the Makefil= e file to : /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin ?
Should I copy th= e cheribsd.patch file to : /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin/files ?
=

and after that,should I do :

# cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin
# mv Makefile Makefile_
# cp '/home/marietto/Desktop/cheribsd.patch' .
# = cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin/files
# cp '/home/marietto/= Desktop/Makefile' .
# cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin
=
# make

make: "/usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-= kwin/Makefile" line 74: Malformed conditional (!${ABI:Mpurecap})
ma= ke: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
make: stopped= in /usr/ports/x11-wm/plasma5-kwin

Something is no= t correct.

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 5:47=E2=80=AFPM Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org> wrote:
Mar= io Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> writes:

> =3D=3D> pkg install plasma6-plasma kde6-devel

Drop kde6-devel. It's obsolete and pulls other KDE stuff besides Plasma=
like KDE Gear (aka applications) that can be used even on GNOME, XFCE, etc.=

> =3D=3D> pkg install --glob "plasma6-*"
> =3D=3D> pkg install --glob "kf6-*"

Unnecessary: already pulled by plasma6-plasma.

> =3D=3D> sysrc seatd_enable=3D"YES"

Plasma cannot use seatd without htt= ps://github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/cheribsd-ports/commit/02e468a397ad

> =3D=3D> sysrc -f /etc/rc.conf kld_list+=3D"nvidia-modeset nvid= ia-
> drm linux linux64 i915kms ext2fs mac_priority"

nvidia-drm already loads nvidia-modeset. Moreover, loading
nvidia-modeset before nvidia-drm may not work.

According to https://www.freshports.or= g/graphics/nvidia-drm-61-kmod#message
you also need "sysctl hw.nvidiadrm.modeset=3D1"

> export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=3D1
> export __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=3D1
> export __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=3Dnvidia
> export XDG_SESSION_TYPE=3Dwayland
> export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=3D/tmp/$USER/.xdg
> export CLUTTER_BACKEND=3Dwayland
> export SDL_VIDEODRIVER=3Dwayland
> export LIBGL_DRI3_ENABLE=3D1
> export XKB_DEFAULT_RULES=3Devdev
> export QT_QPA_PLATFORM=3Dwayland-egl
> export QT_WAYLAND_DISABLE_WINDOWDECORATION=3D1
> export BEMENU_BACKEND=3Dwayland
> export WLR_DRM_NO_ATOMIC=3D1
> export XCURSOR_THEME=3Dwhiteglass
> #export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=3Dqt5ct
> export WLR_NO_HARDWARE_CURSORS=3D1

Looks like a cargo cult. Not only many of these are default but some may even break Xwayland support in apps that don't support Wayland natively=
yet such as emulators/wine*

> [ -d $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR ] || mkdir -m 700 -p $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

Manually setting and creating XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is obsolete on FreeBSD >= =3D 14
via pam_xdg(8).

Besides, Plasma uses ConsoleKit2 which overrides XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and (if the value is same) destroys existing contents. GUI apps started before
Plasma with different XDG_RUNTIME_DIR wouldn't be accessible from withi= n
Plasma and may cause other issues.

> exec dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session startplasma-

Plasma requires ConsoleKit2 session, so prepend ck-launch-session
like ht= tps://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/x11/plasma5-plasma-workspace/files/startp= lasma-wayland.sh

> but I get the following errors :
>
> https://ibb.co/VNmW9Wn
> https://ibb.co/Hhd5y0Z
> https://ibb.co/XL1xtLH

Do you have /dev/dri/card0 ? If not debug drm-kmod or nvidia-drm-kmod.
After that check if Wayfire works before going on Plasma journey. DEs
like Plasma are a pinnacle of complexity, so even experienced users can
easily drown in pilot errors.

Plasma/Wayland 6.1.1 works fine for me but I've only tested under Sway.=
If standalone Plasma/Wayland fails it's likely due to ConsoleKit2 again= .



--
Mario.
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Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000e1006061d7aa302" X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.93 / 15.00]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.935]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::933:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPYXQ0gbhz52Hn --0000000000000e1006061d7aa302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was able to fix my boot problem by doing: boot single user, tunefs -L 60Gboot-SATA /dev/ada1s1a reboot single user again, mount -rw / fix /etc/fstab to use the label, reboot into multi-user However, now, the swap partition has disappeared: tunefs -p /dev/ada1s1b tunefs: /dev/ada1s1b: No such file or directory Of course, I can evidence it once existed: ls /dev/ada1* /dev/ada1 /dev/ada1s1 /dev/ada1s1a /dev/ada1s1b Where did it go, and is it possible to use it, or is it gone forever? (I know I can create a swap file on ada1s1a, so it's not the end of the world.) Thanks, Bill Dudley On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 6:02=E2=80=AFPM William Dudley = wrote: > Thanks > > tunefs -L foo it is, then. > > Bill Dudley > This email is free of malware because I run Linux. > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 4:33=E2=80=AFPM Matthew Seaman > wrote: > >> On 17/07/2024 20:58, William Dudley wrote: >> > How do I prevent the drive names from changing? Or can't I? >> > >> >> One of the following? >> >> * glabel(8) for gpart(8) disk partitions >> >> * tunefs(8) can add a label to UFS2 filesytems >> >> In either case a disk device using the label will appear under /dev, and >> you can use that in fstab(5) >> >> You might already have labels on your drive partitions: the FreeBSD >> installer creates them by default. Try `gpart show -l` to see. >> >> Or just use ZFS -- it knows its own drives, no matter what device the OS >> wants to call them. There's a fun party trick to take out the drives >> containing a ZFS pool, shuffle them around, reinstall and boot up again. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> --0000000000000e1006061d7aa302 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was able to fix my boot problem by doing:

boot single u= ser,
tunefs -L=C2=A060Gboot-SATA = /dev/ada1s1a
reboot singl= e user again,
mount -rw /
reboot into multi-user

However, now, the swap partition has dis= appeared:

tunefs -p /dev/ada1s1b
tunefs: /dev/ada1s1b: No such file or directory

Of course, I can evidence it once existed:

ls /dev/ada1* =C2=A0
/dev/ad= a1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /dev/ada1s1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /dev/ada1s1a =C2=A0 =C2= =A0/dev/ada1s1b

Where did it go, and is it possible to us= e it, or is it gone forever?
(I know I can create a swap file on=C2=A0ada1= s1a, so it's not the end of the world.)

Thanks,
Bill Dudley



<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 6:02=E2=80=AFP= M William Dudley <wfdudley@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Thanks

tunefs -L foo it is, then.

Bill Dudley
This email is free of malware because I run Linux.<= /div>


On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 4:33=E2=80=AFPM Matthew Seaman= <matthew@freeb= sd.org> wrote:
On 17/07/2024 20:58, William Dudley wrote:
> How do I prevent the drive names from changing?=C2=A0 Or can't I?<= br> >

One of the following?

* glabel(8) for gpart(8) disk partitions

* tunefs(8) can add a label to UFS2 filesytems

In either case a disk device using the label will appear under /dev, and you can use that in fstab(5)

You might already have labels on your drive partitions: the FreeBSD
installer creates them by default.=C2=A0 Try `gpart show -l` to see.

Or just use ZFS -- it knows its own drives, no matter what device the OS wants to call them.=C2=A0 There's a fun party trick to take out the dri= ves
containing a ZFS pool, shuffle them around, reinstall and boot up again.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cheers,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Matthew

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MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPq4f2dC9z4h7j Hi, I did try to compile drm-515-kmod from ports on FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE p2 which is upgraded from 14.0 (freebsd-update upgrade) and I got: --- dma-buf-kmod.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-kmod.c:30: In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 error generated. *** [dma-buf-kmod.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf --- dma-fence-array.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence-array.c:27: In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- dma-fence.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence.c:27: In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/linuxkpi/bsd/include/linux/dma-fence.h:30: In file included from /usr/src/sys/compat/linuxkpi/common/include/linux/err= .h:32: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- dma-fence-chain.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-fence-chain.c:27: In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- sync_file.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/sync_file.c:9: In file included from /usr/src/sys/compat/linuxkpi/common/include/linux/fil= e.h:32: In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- dma-resv.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-resv.c:36: In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/linuxkpi/gplv2/include/linux/dma-resv.h:42: In file included from /usr/src/sys/compat/linuxkpi/common/include/linux/ww_= mutex.h:29: In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- dma-buf.o --- In file included from /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5= .15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf.c:30: In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file not fo= und 45 | #include | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- dma-fence-array.o --- 1 error generated. *** [dma-fence-array.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf --- dma-fence.o --- 1 error generated. *** [dma-fence.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf --- dma-fence-chain.o --- 1 error generated. *** [dma-fence-chain.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf --- sync_file.o --- 1 error generated. *** [sync_file.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf --- dma-resv.o --- 1 error generated. *** [dma-resv.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf --- dma-buf.o --- 1 error generated. *** [dma-buf.o] Error code 1 make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf 7 errors make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.1= 5.160_0/dmabuf make: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.15.1= 60_0 =3D=3D=3D> Compilation failed unexpectedly. Try to set MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE=3Dyes and rebuild before reporting the failure = to the maintainer. *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod Thank you. --=20 =E2=80=9CI hate books; they only teach us to talk about things we know noth= ing about.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Jean-Jacques Rousseau=20 From nobody Thu Jul 18 10:59:07 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WPqZB6ljhz5RF4p for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 10:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from fhigh1-smtp.messagingengine.com (fhigh1-smtp.messagingengine.com [103.168.172.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WPqZB4tgQz4lkc for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 10:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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Thu, 18 Jul 2024 06:59:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-568-g843fbadbe-fm-20240701.003-g843fbadb List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20240718063713.6788d6ad@dismail.de> References: <20240718063713.6788d6ad@dismail.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 10:59:07 +0000 From: "Dave Cottlehuber" To: LuMiWa Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: machine/endian.h' file not found Content-Type: text/plain X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209242, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPqZB4tgQz4lkc On Thu, 18 Jul 2024, at 10:37, LuMiWa wrote: > Hi, > > I did try to compile drm-515-kmod from ports on FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE p2 > which is upgraded from 14.0 (freebsd-update upgrade) and I got: > > --- dma-buf-kmod.o --- > In file included from > /usr/ports/graphics/drm-515-kmod/work/drm-kmod-drm_v5.15.160_0/drivers/dma-buf/dma-buf-kmod.c:30: > In file included from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h:116: > /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:45:10: fatal error: 'machine/endian.h' file > not found > 45 | #include > | ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 1 error generated. > *** [dma-buf-kmod.o] Error code 1 hi lumiwa this should be in /usr/include/machine/endian.h (along with a lot of other things in /usr/include). This needs to match /usr/src obviously as well to the running kernel. running `freebsd-update IDS` may help you find out what's missing, `freebsd-version -kru` will tell you if the running kernel and userland match or not. The reference files can be grabbed from https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/amd64/amd64/14.1-RELEASE/src.txz & https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/amd64/amd64/14.1-RELEASE/base.txz but you'll need to be avoid unpacking these over the top of a running system to avoid breaking things. `tar -C /tmp/...` is helpful. A+ Dave From nobody Thu Jul 18 16:24:50 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WPynf1pYqz5Rh8V; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WPynf1HWxz4N9y; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1721319894; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=9cP4nNHhrtK9PMqsilXqSUfkS2S74uBDkyGQW6MeDIU=; b=wNhG858OWsYeLJ+NT5TGtABW6zviMjkLCyihq7aZtLGGJeq1RiCJ4n5OOC1dy41tZve9dm F79meeJ56Ct6GchZZyZw+Ju+eRMefp4YKy3HUdD7AZsxm2nBGti9An5ZzQHEUMj8fkhP/k 1bY1X0+Dxv941/0CJux2vrQiNAW1DAGnfR16y2rahWlaaD0DcyEFvo35Mx18LR+39Dl37V 1nvBXrUT9ay24qogXvQNHJ4UNG0fxmYJOETAV4neSa3qkn+hFLIVg2g3pPzmatshNxWR+O ksOMzqbyNMvxoh3MP8hm2q0x3vghS/o9v9HMKXrSuX0Q/BoxrTvJSZg07a9JVQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1721319894; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cwa4WQiF6RlFY6UZGJEWMKG9SNQmy1n8Koi0jpyd5DxadcXFpndCeycYSkYO2K3oWHV13r gAUqRlU1KFQpE58ef7j7KGPKH6RY68oXA5iXh243eEX2yFDE3po1/kyTnDjOVpT9LWfkQW XFolqEGNalGaqZJPMmPjALbN3Ut59IMl1Aalsb1WIbQXcvQ88TgfoXqMTBMYqTw82Lyud1 FN5h2qTqIABaZ027IvHc11rKqeW2W4gOf56eAwKl/UCbZ68IxrKbaEOZTf1nFxRhBNaPyA 22aQ8vKVKIJv/1gALar3mAxi6Sw3416qyy+eRGjgPIpwbiEOhlkRkU/tVuY9mQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1721319894; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=9cP4nNHhrtK9PMqsilXqSUfkS2S74uBDkyGQW6MeDIU=; b=pFJqM5O5OhFGkpeWzw4thhZW6uZbZT5vewe1jsN3mX6pXMo2D+KG1P04ofnVZFDWl9lI9h a3HM3es0jrIIg8H13X5ukO3ZxEFqop8plyrhhkFE0D1B8WI8eqX7Tx1UaXrURghlyuJIWl ZqboNeyCTg9Mzi0w1ujg7n/ZYCbh4yeswDNsBqZgcclDYG4bNthDpjAGaWbgUtQbIp11m7 iH5YzCvvANobLnW7nf1HnzbKmeK9hp6hotjrMx0NkXzz+LivGSWliwbHpgetFcAA2Zm991 aBIzdVEfwC7zA+EVlWxDIY3kYgUzREXEx3hg5PjaXjQcDEnHz3pRJgTmqvga2g== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id DC7FEAE51; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:24:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: Mario Marietto Cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Trying to run KDE 6 Plasma with Wayland.... In-Reply-To: (Mario Marietto's message of "Thu, 18 Jul 2024 01:18:29 +0200") References: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:24:50 +0200 Message-ID: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Mario Marietto writes: > Hello Jan. > > I'm trying to install KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland on a fresh vm based on > FreeBSD 14.1,following your instructions,but some point is not clear for > me. When you say : You can stop here. FreeBSD has no KMS/DRM drivers for virtual GPUs. drm-kmod no longer provides vmwgfx.ko. Wayland can still be used if GPU is passed through (making it unavailable on the host OS) or nested within Xorg session (using its BIOS/UEFI drivers[1]). [1] BIOS/UEFI drivers for KMS hasn't been ported yet, see https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/issues/269 Such drivers lack hardware acceleration thus not a substitute for the missing vmwgfx.ko or DRM-based vboxvideo, virtgpu. > 1) Should I make the installation of plasma5-kwin from ports even if I want > to install KDE Plasma 6 ? > 2) How should I apply the patches ? Can you tell me if the procedure that I > want to follow is correct ? Please, contact kde@ team for help with Plasma. I neither maintain nor use Plasma thus trying to help will lead to a burnout. 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Message-ID: <20240718124937.00004e9c@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.50 / 15.00]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:4860:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2001:4860:4864:20::30:from]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2001:4860:4864::/48, country:US]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPzSn3bcfz4cJj On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:24:50 +0200, Jan Beich stated: > Mario Marietto writes: >=20 > > Hello Jan. > > > > I'm trying to install KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland on a fresh vm based > > on FreeBSD 14.1,following your instructions,but some point is not > > clear for me. When you say : =20 >=20 > You can stop here. FreeBSD has no KMS/DRM drivers for virtual GPUs. > drm-kmod no longer provides vmwgfx.ko. Wayland can still be used > if GPU is passed through (making it unavailable on the host OS) > or nested within Xorg session (using its BIOS/UEFI drivers[1]). >=20 > [1] BIOS/UEFI drivers for KMS hasn't been ported yet, see > https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/issues/269 > Such drivers lack hardware acceleration thus not a substitute for > the missing vmwgfx.ko or DRM-based vboxvideo, virtgpu. >=20 > > 1) Should I make the installation of plasma5-kwin from ports even > > if I want to install KDE Plasma 6 ? > > 2) How should I apply the patches ? Can you tell me if the > > procedure that I want to follow is correct ? =20 >=20 > Please, contact kde@ team for help with Plasma. I neither maintain nor > use Plasma thus trying to help will lead to a burnout. I have never gotten it to work either. You only viable solution would be to use a different OS. =F0=9F=A4=A0=EF=B8=8F From nobody Thu Jul 18 16:57:27 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WPzWb48fKz5RkhC for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WPzWZ28yFz4d50 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 16:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org designates 116.202.254.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sUURm-0006M2-PZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:57:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Shepelev Subject: Re: Cannot seem to throttle individual cores with hwpstate_intel Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 19:57:27 +0300 Message-ID: <20240718195727.d4f457c37c7e168b62861d4a@gmail.com> References: <20240716013741.17158bb56952618f8d748515@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.87 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.83)[-0.827]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WPzWZ28yFz4d50 Alexey Vyskubov: > this is not how it works for me on i3-12100F (14.1-p2): > > for cpu in $(seq 0 7); do sysctl dev.hwpstate_intel.$cpu.epp; sysctl dev.cpu.$cpu.freq; done > dev.hwpstate_intel.0.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.0.freq: 1450 > dev.hwpstate_intel.1.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.1.freq: 1165 > dev.hwpstate_intel.2.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.2.freq: 1248 > dev.hwpstate_intel.3.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.3.freq: 1152 > dev.hwpstate_intel.4.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.4.freq: 799 > dev.hwpstate_intel.5.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.5.freq: 799 > dev.hwpstate_intel.6.epp: 50 > dev.cpu.6.freq: 799 > dev.hwpstate_intel.7.epp: 100 > dev.cpu.7.freq: 799 Thank you for the test, Alexey. In your case, the per-core settings seem to take at least some effect. Since the load balancer seems to prioritise cores with lower indices, I wonder what the same test would show if core 0 instead of core 7 had an .epp of 100. Under what kind of load did you perform your test, and does load affect the frequencies? 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To: Jan Beich Cc: freebsd-desktop@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009d2065061d8948ab" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WQ0p8108Dz4kBR --0000000000009d2065061d8948ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry,I forgot to say that I have passed through inside the FreeBSD vm my secondary GPU,the RTX 2080 ti. Again sorry. So,we can go on :D On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Jan Beich wrot= e: > Mario Marietto writes: > > > Hello Jan. > > > > I'm trying to install KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland on a fresh vm based on > > FreeBSD 14.1,following your instructions,but some point is not clear fo= r > > me. When you say : > > You can stop here. FreeBSD has no KMS/DRM drivers for virtual GPUs. > drm-kmod no longer provides vmwgfx.ko. Wayland can still be used > if GPU is passed through (making it unavailable on the host OS) > or nested within Xorg session (using its BIOS/UEFI drivers[1]). > > [1] BIOS/UEFI drivers for KMS hasn't been ported yet, see > https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/issues/269 > Such drivers lack hardware acceleration thus not a substitute for > the missing vmwgfx.ko or DRM-based vboxvideo, virtgpu. > > > 1) Should I make the installation of plasma5-kwin from ports even if I > want > > to install KDE Plasma 6 ? > > 2) How should I apply the patches ? Can you tell me if the procedure > that I > > want to follow is correct ? > > Please, contact kde@ team for help with Plasma. I neither maintain nor > use Plasma thus trying to help will lead to a burnout. > --=20 Mario. --0000000000009d2065061d8948ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry,I forgot to say that I have passed through inside th= e FreeBSD vm my secondary GPU,the RTX 2080 ti. Again sorry. So,we can go on= :D

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org> wrote:
Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>= ; writes:

> Hello Jan.
>
> I'm trying to install KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland on a fresh vm base= d on
> FreeBSD 14.1,following your instructions,but some point is not clear f= or
> me. When you say :

You can stop here. FreeBSD has no KMS/DRM drivers for virtual GPUs.
drm-kmod no longer provides vmwgfx.ko. Wayland can still be used
if GPU is passed through (making it unavailable on the host OS)
or nested within Xorg session (using its BIOS/UEFI drivers[1]).

[1] BIOS/UEFI drivers for KMS hasn't been ported yet, see
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/issu= es/269
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Such drivers lack hardware acceleration thus not a substitute= for
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the missing vmwgfx.ko or DRM-based vboxvideo, virtgpu.

> 1) Should I make the installation of plasma5-kwin from ports even if I= want
> to install KDE Plasma 6 ?
> 2) How should I apply the patches ? Can you tell me if the procedure t= hat I
> want to follow is correct ?

Please, contact kde@ team for help with Plasma. I neither maintain nor
use Plasma thus trying to help will lead to a burnout.


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Mario.
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After an update of the system today, it crashes in network startup and I need to get back to a working system while I try to figure out why it won't boot. Probably by bisecting the source. Right now, I am getting an error from 'geli attach' of: geli: Invalid class name 'eli'. This is probably the result of kernel and world not being in sync as I had to restore the boot/modules directory to the state of the old kernel. I had assumed that the version was a hash that I could use to get my kernel and world back to a working state. I could restore from backup, but would like to get back to the exact system of the kernel.old. I am just a git newby and trying to use 5654b42142e1 reports that the hash is not found. I'lladmit that I'm lost! -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --000000000000cf724a061d93981c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need to roll back my system to main-n271000-56= 54b42142e1. After an update of the system today, it crashes in network star= tup and I need to get back to a working system while I try to figure out wh= y it won't boot. Probably by bisecting the source.=C2=A0

Right now, I am getting an error from 'geli attach= ' of:
geli: Invalid class name 'eli'.<= /div>
This is probably the result of kernel and world not being in= sync as I had to restore the boot/modules directory to the state of the ol= d kernel.

I had assumed that the version= was a hash that I could use to get my kernel and world back to a working s= tate. I could restore from backup, but would like to get back to the exact = system of the kernel.old.

I am just a gi= t newby and trying to use 5654b42142e1 reports that the hash is not found. = I'lladmit that I'm lost!
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder an= d retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: = D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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After an > update of the system today, it crashes in network startup and I need to > get back to a working system while I try to figure out why it won't > boot. Probably by bisecting the source. > > Right now, I am getting an error from 'geli attach' of: > geli: Invalid class name 'eli'. > This is probably the result of kernel and world not being in sync as I > had to restore the boot/modules directory to the state of the old > kernel. > > I had assumed that the version was a hash that I could use to get my > kernel and world back to a working state. I could restore from backup, > but would like to get back to the exact system of the kernel.old. > > I am just a git newby and trying to use 5654b42142e1 reports that the > hash is not found. I'lladmit that I'm lost! Hi Kevin you're correct, you can check via https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=5654b42142e1 for example. Assuming you are already on main branch: cd /usr/src ### switch to the main branch if not already on it git switch main ### make sure we have all the recent commits, hopefully including that one git fetch origin main ### reset our "main" reference to that commit git reset --hard 5654b42142e1 ### clean up any stray rubbish git clean -fdx and then rebuild as usual. A lazier way would be to grab base & kernel from https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/amd64/amd64/15.0-CURRENT/ there's a GITBRANCH and REVISION file in there you can compare from. An even lazier way would be boot environments, if you have zfs. A+ Dave From nobody Fri Jul 19 15:40:46 2024 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WQYmd3Qpmz5RrYN for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2024 15:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WQYmc6T21z4v69 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2024 15:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e05e2b2d88bso2098606276.0 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2024 08:41:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1721403664; x=1722008464; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=w1dVcTFIqkltCFUR2NdA4H7fH5A2yQWX7PmiaXxhHhY=; b=FjL5KwgFaYQGBojMytv/LAmRyOIKCKG86KD9jls08Nrj6IB1yw2Uk1LrW0DCFT8wjx Hxf23GrYy9eRr39MMqFcCVv6FGhQ1u0bDrKONp2uN/GpUzTk8MB3xetX41riT+5Au4RR gzKPObPEKD3PWzIpwDlFj6yw0Q+wecA5aOf7pm2bvUCH0vL2i9/xwra9kHFFyzizyyd3 UW24TPHB2UjGX7BTjJ48Kq/d22mD5ii+N9vTVGTa3X/pR+xsBPy/pu9YWHWoI44vIFHU F45QTPlALXclsSHey/2OmiGDTjLR99rnv/3Y/l55bCo0zjyKVEp3KdFweMSVYewps8do Fngg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1721403664; x=1722008464; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=w1dVcTFIqkltCFUR2NdA4H7fH5A2yQWX7PmiaXxhHhY=; b=w1dVNAdROI1SoYLUyKBCEo2bnkF7SxXH8cwrF9UZsR8mWSkB1MtxZsrpAI7Xi89cMk fu7NUXhfog+K+DU21yp9VmXmcJDUF7VXY8Dy3otf6vrx9S8cXM+z8gsewZzIEVA4L2cF FEuQ80jfQP5xlxW+0KKpZjqJDaIzg6+axWIRrLT1HMZbL6NftS7TMr5hIvkSbbBEJbbK NqyPrfrZ1usoaF/Hmizs38OPE0CD9Zop0D8fQ1qpH6NyXQjFj7OXJBStS3AkI0kytE/q bq53XWFpWJy5a+4S/tugZWqJBEke+rmNIRa3B4puqMq5P/hV/1LU0jVJGBBHg5rOQ7UZ SEjw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxqqsSTbInQEkKz1iLKfQxjXRY2mZffis/bCd5ZM8fh9qWaLA2d My71/H+c9FvarWdKj5e3g4F3jZlKAfKR2b4K79n407wEM2X9KZo8cTgQWg4ay/3UVe5i/O3n6kI bGGqHUr5TsNHltTXXrckokoE24xBKMjN7 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFDzKY9/NQKVA5J948rSKgebl6ieUnEcpBK1YxaE52dhyln0b9Q7ae3Khdg3g002ndzfFFAP7adII28QJDQ/QY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:2313:b0:e06:1bd:976 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e086092d0cfmr2882749276.22.1721403663710; Fri, 19 Jul 2024 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5569eeed-411a-48c8-b1e1-638d608610a6@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5569eeed-411a-48c8-b1e1-638d608610a6@app.fastmail.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 08:40:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Finding the git hash for a build To: Dave Cottlehuber Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e403a1061d9b85d9" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WQYmc6T21z4v69 --000000000000e403a1061d9b85d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to both of you! I am baffled as to what I did wrong yesterday. How can I type "git reset --hard" wrong? I cut and pasted the hash. And I still kept getting a hash not found. In any case, it worked perfectly today and buildworld should be complete in about an hour. Thanks so much! On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:58=E2=80=AFAM Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, at 06:13, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > I need to roll back my system to main-n271000-5654b42142e1. After an > > update of the system today, it crashes in network startup and I need to > > get back to a working system while I try to figure out why it won't > > boot. Probably by bisecting the source. > > > > Right now, I am getting an error from 'geli attach' of: > > geli: Invalid class name 'eli'. > > This is probably the result of kernel and world not being in sync as I > > had to restore the boot/modules directory to the state of the old > > kernel. > > > > I had assumed that the version was a hash that I could use to get my > > kernel and world back to a working state. I could restore from backup, > > but would like to get back to the exact system of the kernel.old. > > > > I am just a git newby and trying to use 5654b42142e1 reports that the > > hash is not found. I'lladmit that I'm lost! > > > Hi Kevin > > you're correct, you can check via > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D5654b42142e1 > for example. > > Assuming you are already on main branch: > > cd /usr/src > ### switch to the main branch if not already on it > git switch main > ### make sure we have all the recent commits, hopefully including that on= e > git fetch origin main > ### reset our "main" reference to that commit > git reset --hard 5654b42142e1 > ### clean up any stray rubbish > git clean -fdx > > and then rebuild as usual. > > A lazier way would be to grab base & kernel from > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/amd64/amd64/15.0-CURRENT/ > there's a GITBRANCH and REVISION file in there you can compare from. > > An even lazier way would be boot environments, if you have zfs. > > A+ > Dave > --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --000000000000e403a1061d9b85d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to both of you! I am baffled as to what I= did wrong yesterday. How can I type "git reset --hard" wrong? I = cut and pasted the hash. And I still kept getting a hash not found.

In any case, it worked perfectly today and buil= dworld should be complete in about an hour.

Thanks so much!

On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:58=E2=80=AFAM Dave = Cottlehuber <dch@skunkwerks.at&= gt; wrote:
On Fr= i, 19 Jul 2024, at 06:13, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> I need to roll back my system to main-n271000-5654b42142e1. After an <= br> > update of the system today, it crashes in network startup and I need t= o
> get back to a working system while I try to figure out why it won'= t
> boot. Probably by bisecting the source.
>
> Right now, I am getting an error from 'geli attach' of:
> geli: Invalid class name 'eli'.
> This is probably the result of kernel and world not being in sync as I=
> had to restore the boot/modules directory to the state of the old
> kernel.
>
> I had assumed that the version was a hash that I could use to get my <= br> > kernel and world back to a working state. I could restore from backup,=
> but would like to get back to the exact system of the kernel.old.
>
> I am just a git newby and trying to use 5654b42142e1 reports that the =
> hash is not found. I'lladmit that I'm lost!


Hi Kevin

you're correct, you can check via https://= cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D5654b42142e1
for example.

Assuming you are already on main branch:

cd /usr/src
### switch to the main branch if not already on it
git switch main
### make sure we have all the recent commits, hopefully including that one<= br> git fetch origin main
### reset our "main" reference to that commit
git reset --hard 5654b42142e1
### clean up any stray rubbish
git clean -fdx

and then rebuild as usual.

A lazier way would be to grab base & kernel from https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/amd64/amd64= /15.0-CURRENT/ there's a GITBRANCH and REVISION file in there you c= an compare from.

An even lazier way would be boot environments, if you have zfs.

A+
Dave


--
Kevin= Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
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Has anybody been able to cause FreeBSD with X to handle gracefully the closing and opeining of a laptop lid? Althogh I have: hw.acpi.lid_switch_state=s4 on my HP 15bwoxx, closing the lid only turns the display off, whereas the HDD continues to spin, the laptop still buzzes, and upon opening the lid back up it goes into operative state instantenously, with two new windows of the "Settings/Display" application open in the centre of the X screen. How can I cause it to hibernate or at least to stand by, and to prevent the launchhing of two "Display" applications every time I open the lid? 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On the previous releases of FreeBSD I > didn't have a "problem" and I am using KSH shell for user > all the time. Yet it does seem related to your using KSH: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/41683/#post-231500 In that post, the author writes: Don't mind the error message up there, that's because I'm lazy and edited .profile in my home directory to include some specific settings for ksh. You can try asking them for the details. 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They usually have their own settings... Sent On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 12:37 Anton Shepelev wrote: > Hello, all. > > Has anybody been able to cause FreeBSD with X to handle > gracefully the closing and opeining of a laptop lid? > Althogh I have: > hw.acpi.lid_switch_state=s4 > > on my HP 15bwoxx, closing the lid only turns the display > off, whereas the HDD continues to spin, the laptop still > buzzes, and upon opening the lid back up it goes into > operative state instantenously, with two new windows of the > "Settings/Display" application open in the centre of the X > screen. How can I cause it to hibernate or at least to > stand by, and to prevent the launchhing of two "Display" > applications every time I open the lid? > > > --0000000000001dd769061dabba18 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Are you using a desktop environment like KDE? They usually h= ave their own settings...

Sent

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 12:37 Ant= on Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Hello, all.

Has anybody been able to cause FreeBSD with X to handle
gracefully the closing and opeining of a laptop lid?
Althogh I have:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hw.acpi.lid_switch_= state=3Ds4

on my HP 15bwoxx, closing the lid only turns the display
off, whereas the HDD continues to spin, the laptop still
buzzes, and upon opening the lid back up it goes into
operative state instantenously, with two new windows of the
"Settings/Display" application open in the centre of the X
screen.=C2=A0 How can I cause it to hibernate or at least to
stand by, and to prevent the launchhing of two "Display"
applications every time I open the lid?


--0000000000001dd769061dabba18-- From nobody Sat Jul 20 12:07:42 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WR5052r3nz5RXwZ for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WR5043jcyz44Qq for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org designates 116.202.254.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sV8sN-0002uz-4X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:07:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Shepelev Subject: Re: Handling the opening and closing of laptop lid Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 15:07:42 +0300 Message-ID: <20240720150742.fc92cf6a702a3140621d1537@gmail.com> References: <20240720133729.d0c633674649c0e9621d958c@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.18 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.52)[-0.519]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WR5043jcyz44Qq Michael Schuster to Anton Shepelev > > Has anybody been able to cause FreeBSD with X to handle > > gracefully the closing and opeining of a laptop lid? > > Althogh I have: > > > > hw.acpi.lid_switch_state=s4 > > > > on my HP 15bwoxx, closing the lid only turns the display > > off, whereas the HDD continues to spin, the laptop still > > buzzes, and upon opening the lid back up it goes into > > operative state instantenously, with two new windows of > > the "Settings/Display" application open in the centre of > > the X screen. How can I cause it to hibernate or at > > least to stand by, and to prevent the launchhing of two > > "Display" applications every time I open the lid? > > Are you using a desktop environment like KDE? Yes, I have Xorg, Xfce, and lightdm. > They usually have their own settings... Yes, and I am puzzled how those settings interact with sysctl's and lid-related ACPI events, which I can handle via devd. Under X, I have tried various settings in: Start menu Applications Settings Power Manager System Laptop Lid Now I see that I was chaning it on the wrong tab, "On battry" When I specified "suspend" for laptop lid action on the "Plugged in" tab, closing the lid did send the laptop into suspend mode, but it works only in X, and not in the tty's. When I open lid after suspect, a single "Display" application window appears, and my camcontrol(8) settings specified at boot are overridden, and half the time after wake-up the Power Manager no longer shows the "Hibernate" and "Suspent" options for the Lid, only "Switch off display" and "Lock screen", whereas the Lid still causes the laptop to suspend. When I close the lid while in TTY, the laptop does not go into suspend. When open the lid go back to X, it shows a error notice from Power Manager: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Error.InsufficientPermission: Not Authorised. Whereas .xsession-errors has: (xfce4-power-manager:1674): xfce4-power-manager-WARNING **: 14:36:44.518: 'CheckAuthorization' failed with GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: Unix process subject does not have uid set I considered setting: hw.acpi.lid_switch_state="NONE" and handling everything by hand with devd, without the help of X, but the abovementioned /Laptop Lid/ setting has no option to do nothing, so for now I am stuck with a dysfunctional lid in my laptop and shall welcome any help. From nobody Sat Jul 20 12:59:14 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WR67Z14gsz5Rchn for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WR67Y2CPNz48jD for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org designates 116.202.254.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sV9gF-0009dU-FA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:59:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Shepelev Subject: Re: Handling the opening and closing of laptop lid Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 15:59:14 +0300 Message-ID: <20240720155914.56fe71f4176fd98db541cfef@gmail.com> References: <20240720133729.d0c633674649c0e9621d958c@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.51 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.84)[-0.842]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.80)[-0.801]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.43)[0.429]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WR67Y2CPNz48jD I wrote: > closing the lid only turns the display off, whereas the > HDD continues to spin, the laptop still buzzes, and upon > opening the lid back up it goes into operative state > instantenously, with two new windows of the > "Settings/Display" application open in the centre of the X > screen. This problem was fixed by resetting the XF86Display from the xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts section of Xfce settings: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/90827/#post-627318 I still don't understand what it was there for and on what conditon it was invoked. The most imporatant remaining problem upon wake-up are: 1. camcontrol(8) settings made at boot via /etc/rc.local become reset 2. (just noticed it) WiFi stops working, althugh networkmgr shows it connected. Restarting the network helps. 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FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WRFwL4rtQz4jZX On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:59:09 +0300 Anton Shepelev wrote: > LuMiWa: >=20 > > I am running FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE p2 now and if I use "su" > > I get" > > set: Illegal option -o posix > > and log me in. On the previous releases of FreeBSD I > > didn't have a "problem" and I am using KSH shell for user > > all the time. >=20 > Yet it does seem related to your using KSH: >=20 > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/41683/#post-231500 >=20 > In that post, the author writes: >=20 > Don't mind the error message up there, that's because I'm > lazy and edited .profile in my home directory to include > some specific settings for ksh. >=20 > You can try asking them for the details. >=20 >=20 Thank you. 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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:52:47 +0300 Message-ID: <20240720215247.1329010d827972d9e4635a25@gmail.com> References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.71 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.976]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.968]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WRFzW17DTz4lw7 D'Arcy Cain: > I am upgrading from 13.0 to 14.1. I ran the upgrade and > then install. I then rebooted and ran the install again > as instructed. It got to the "Installing updates" part > and has been sitting there for almost 1 1/2 hours. Is > that reasonable? What's a normal range of wait times on a > reasonably powerful server? In default of other replies, I suggest that you try to find it whether it is hung or doing useful work by checking CPU, HDD, and network load. If there is activity, chances are it not stuck in an infinite loop and will complete sooner or later... Did it? From nobody Sat Jul 20 18:56:01 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WRG7m34bSz5MxX4 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WRG7l61vsz4mmn for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org designates 116.202.254.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sVFJK-0006iZ-KQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Shepelev Subject: Re: illegal option Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 21:56:01 +0300 Message-ID: <20240720215601.0df6b75ce27ea5cda2922c3d@gmail.com> References: <20240711070909.5f094fee@dismail.de> <20240720135909.b101e6378809c5966cbf1cd2@gmail.com> <20240720145000.71167e97@dismail.de> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.74 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.959]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.202.0.0/16, country:DE]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[antontxt@gmail.com,freebsd-questions@m.gmane-mx.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WRG7l61vsz4mmn LuMiWa: > Thank you. I asked to fast in mailing list because I knew > that is ksh "problem" If you were able to fix that error message, I think readers will appreacite your posting the solution here. Was it some ksh-specific stuff in .profile, as mentioned on the forum? 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It rums Exim, and is configured to update > from the URL "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/quarterly". > > Today pkg upgrade installed version exim-4.97.1_5. I do not > recall that version being available last week, so I assume this > is a security release? Changelog shows 4.95.1_5 was to bump to consumers of its dependency dns/libidn: https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/mail/exim?h=2024Q3&id=bae03bdd17b294e3354848e123f3ec4bd9b7592a . That change is a version bump just to guarantee that if rebuilding installed ports with tools like portupgrade/portmaster that exim will also get rebuilt. It does not change anything about the exim program's code/buildsteps. Refer to https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/makefiles/#makefile-portrevision for further clarification of the use of this variable that was modified in the port. > How can I find the changes introduced since version > exim-4.97.1_4, which is what the server was at until the > upgrade? Easiest way I do it in a web browser is navigate to cgit.freebsd.org, click on ports, click on the branch you want (the newest quarterly branch), switch the view to 'tree', click the desired category (mail), click on the port (exim). From here you can click on log at the top for changes to the port as a whole or click on other links for log and changes to individual files. > In particular I'm curious to know if this version addresses > CVE-2024-39929 (https://bugs.exim.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3099 > ) by any > chance. This is just an exercise in curiosity, and a chance to learn > more about FreeBSD ports and packages. Skimming over that bug report, it looks like fixes on 7/1 and 7/2 went into exim's codebase but I only see notes of fixing it on 4.98. https://git.exim.org/exim.git/shortlog/refs/heads/exim-4.97+security was last updated 6 months ago so it does not look like the exim project has fixed 4.97 themselves. If this gets fixed for 4.97, I'd expect the change to the FreeBSD port to either include a distinfo change about the file it downloads to be for a fixed archive, download the patch separately, or have the ./files/ updated to include the patch or have the Makefile modified to include the patch. 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FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector10001:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.973]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f403::/49]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a01:111:f403:2c15::800:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WRGbv10V5z4qhd On 7/20/24 09:56, D'Arcy Cain wrote: > I am upgrading from 13.0 to 14.1.  I ran the upgrade and then install. I > then rebooted and ran the install again as instructed.  It got to the > "Installing updates" part and has been sitting there for almost 1½ > hours.  Is that reasonable?  What's a normal range of wait times on a > reasonably powerful server? I recall hearing of users waiting hour"s" for freebsd-update to take them to 14.0 when it came out; could provide helpful reading material for your current status while you (continue to) wait until the update finishes. I don't know if there are any sysctls to adjust or other changes to make to accelerate the current update. 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It rums Exim, and is configured to update > > from the URL "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/quarterly". > >=20 > > Today pkg upgrade installed version exim-4.97.1_5. I do not > > recall that version being available last week, so I assume this > > is a security release? >=20 >=20 > Changelog shows 4.95.1_5 was to bump to consumers of its dependency > dns/libidn: > https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/mail/exim?h=3D2024Q3&id=3Dbae03bdd1= 7b294e3354848e123f3ec4bd9b7592a > . That change is a version bump just to guarantee that if rebuilding > installed ports with tools like portupgrade/portmaster that exim will > also get rebuilt. It does not change anything about the exim program's > code/buildsteps. Refer to > https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/makefiles/#makefile-po= rtrevision > for further clarification of the use of this variable that was modified > in the port. >=20 > > How can I find the changes introduced since version > > exim-4.97.1_4, which is what the server was at until the > > upgrade? >=20 >=20 > Easiest way I do it in a web browser is navigate to cgit.freebsd.org, > click on ports, click on the branch you want (the newest quarterly > branch), switch the view to 'tree', click the desired category (mail), > click on the port (exim). From here you can click on log at the top for > changes to the port as a whole or click on other links for log and > changes to individual files. OK, that was what I found, but I figured, since it was dated 02 May, and I know I have updated since then, that I was missing something. But it occurred to me that this is the Q3 quarterly branch, so that would not have been released until 01 July at the earliest anyhow, eh? I almost always update on Saturday mornings (US CDT), and since that did not show up last week I figured this was a security update. But perhaps my understanding is flawed? I see updates to that branch as recent as a few hours ago, so does it continue to receive updates that will be picked up when tracking quarterly? >=20 > > In particular I'm curious to know if this version addresses > > CVE-2024-39929 (https://bugs.exim.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3099 > > https://bugs.exim.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3099) by any > > chance. This is just an exercise in curiosity, and a chance to learn > > more about FreeBSD ports and packages. >=20 >=20 > Skimming over that bug report, it looks like fixes on 7/1 and 7/2 > went into exim's codebase but I only see notes of fixing it on 4.98. > https://git.exim.org/exim.git/shortlog/refs/heads/exim-4.97+security was > last updated 6 months ago so it does not look like the exim project has > fixed 4.97 themselves. > If this gets fixed for 4.97, I'd expect the change to the FreeBSD > port to either include a distinfo change about the file it downloads to > be for a fixed archive, download the patch separately, or have the > ./files/ updated to include the patch or have the Makefile modified to > include the patch. > I don't follow how security is decided too well but I presume that > the deswcription would apply to any platform running exim so it could be > a candidate to maybe be a vuxml database entry. Yeah, I was expecting the fix for the CVE that I mentioned to only show up in 4.98, but having a lot of experience with Debian I have seen things like that backported to the version that they maintain. I had no reason to suspect that here but figured it can't hurt to ask. On a side note, I did see my Poudriere jail pick up 4.98. I am in the process of migrating everything to that, so I'll have that patched version rolled out at some point. Really appreciate the time you took to answer my questions. 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I asked to fast in mailing list because I knew > > that is ksh "problem" >=20 > If you were able to fix that error message, I think readers > will appreacite your posting the solution here. 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Neal" To: William Dudley Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: add in SATA card -- ada0 "moves" to ad1, breaking the boot process ? Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-No-archive: Yes X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13649, ipnet:206.196.0.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[neutralgood.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WS0Xy6Wjlz4ZJb On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 08:27:21PM -0400, William Dudley wrote: > I was able to fix my boot problem by doing: > boot single user, > tunefs -L 60Gboot-SATA /dev/ada1s1a > reboot single user again, > mount -rw / > fix /etc/fstab to use the label, > reboot into multi-user > However, now, the swap partition has disappeared: > tunefs -p /dev/ada1s1b > tunefs: /dev/ada1s1b: No such file or directory > Of course, I can evidence it once existed: > ls /dev/ada1*  > /dev/ada1    /dev/ada1s1   /dev/ada1s1a   /dev/ada1s1b > Where did it go, and is it possible to use it, or is it gone forever? > (I know I can create a swap file on ada1s1a, so it's not the end of > the world.) You can only use "tunefs" on a UFS filesystem. A swap partition is not a filesystem, at least not on FreeBSD. Use "gpart show" or "gpart show -l" and your existing swap partition should be in the list somewhere. If I'm reading what you wrote above it looks like you aren't using GPT partitioning? Still, you should see a partition listed with the size of your swap partition. Use glabel on that partition and then you can: swapon /dev/label/whatever-your-label-is -- Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ "What is mathematics? The age-old answer is, of course, that mathematics is what mathematicians do." - Donald Knuth