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Hi, everyone. I just learned how to develop device drivers in FreeBSD.
A simple one with this Makefile.
```
KMOD= hello
SRCS= hello.c
.include <bsd.kmod.mk>
```
Type `make` and it works. But no debug symbols by default.
I followed `bsd.kmod.mk` and found `sys/conf/kmod.mk`. There are dozens of
variables in `sys/conf/kmod.mk` which control the compiling process. But I
did not find one that helps to add debug symbols or add `-g` into the
CFLAGS.
Thanks.
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Hi, everyone. I just learned how to develop device drivers in FreeBSD.<div>=
A simple one with this Makefile.</div><div>```</div><div><span>KMOD=3D =C2=
=A0 hello</span><div><span>SRCS=3D =C2=A0 hello.c</span></div><div><br></di=
v><span>.include <<a rel=3D"noreferrer nofollow noopener" href=3D"http:/=
/bsd.kmod.mk" target=3D"_blank">bsd.kmod.mk</a>></span></div><div>```</d=
iv><div>Type `make` and it works. But no debug symbols by default.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>I followed `<a href=3D"http://bsd.kmod.mk">bsd.kmod.mk</a>=
` and found `<span>sys/conf/<a href=3D"http://kmod.mk" target=3D"_blank">km=
od.mk</a></span>`. There are dozens of variables in `<span>sys/conf/<a href=
=3D"http://kmod.mk" target=3D"_blank">kmod.mk</a></span>` which control the=
compiling process. But I did not find one that helps to add debug symbols =
or add `-g` into the CFLAGS.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div>
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Hi,
I have a FreeBSD 14.2 system with two bhyve machines (using vm-bhyve).
Those VMs are completely unrelated: one is a Linux VM for podman builds
- "linux", one is a Windows 10 VM for Microsoft365 backup - "windows".
Whenever I start a build process on "linux" (2 cpus out of 6), the host
system becomes barely usable, with a load average of 40-60. The strange
thing is htop shows me cpu usage of "linux" at 20-30% whereas "windows"
(which is just idling around) starts using roughly ~45% cpu (normally <
10%).
Infos: the host: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor, 64GB RAM, 4
slow spinning disks (zfs: striped mirror).
windows vm config:
loader=3D"uefi"
cpu_sockets=3D1
cpu_cores=3D4
cpu=3D4
memory=3D20480M
network0_type=3D"virtio-net"
network0_switch=3D"public"
disk0_type=3D"virtio-blk"
disk0_name=3D"disk0.img"
uuid=3D"30c90d9a-be0f-11ef-a78a-b42e99a1b9c3"
network0_mac=3D"58:9c:fc:0b:a3:ff"
graphics=3D"yes"
xhci_mouse=3D"yes"
graphics_listen=3D"127.0.0.1"
graphics_port=3D"591"
graphics_vga=3Dio
utctime=3D"no"
linux.cfg:
loader=3D"uefi"
cpu=3D2
memory=3D4096M
network0_type=3D"virtio-net"
network0_switch=3D"public"
disk0_type=3D"virtio-blk"
disk0_name=3D"disk0.img"
uuid=3D"5307ee72-be0f-11ef-a78a-b42e99a1b9c3"
network0_mac=3D"58:9c:fc:a7:7b:ef"
graphics=3D"yes"
graphics_listen=3D"127.0.0.1"
graphics_port=3D"5901"
graphics_vga=3Dio
Anyone an idea what could be wrong, or, how to debug this? Thanks!
Regards,
Robert
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some more infos:
Shutting down "windows" results in the host being responsive for a
longer period of time, however, at some point htop shows ~60% cpu usage
of "linux" and load average is ~40.
The ssh connection becomes unusable, showing keystrokes/characters
roughly 10-30 seconds delayed.
On 19.12.24 14:48, infoomatic wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a FreeBSD 14.2 system with two bhyve machines (using vm-bhyve).
> Those VMs are completely unrelated: one is a Linux VM for podman builds
> - "linux", one is a Windows 10 VM for Microsoft365 backup - "windows".
>
> Whenever I start a build process on "linux" (2 cpus out of 6), the host
> system becomes barely usable, with a load average of 40-60. The strange
> thing is htop shows me cpu usage of "linux" at 20-30% whereas "windows"
> (which is just idling around) starts using roughly ~45% cpu (normally <
> 10%).
>
> Infos: the host: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor, 64GB RAM, 4
> slow spinning disks (zfs: striped mirror).
>
> windows vm config:
> loader=3D"uefi"
> cpu_sockets=3D1
> cpu_cores=3D4
> cpu=3D4
> memory=3D20480M
> network0_type=3D"virtio-net"
> network0_switch=3D"public"
> disk0_type=3D"virtio-blk"
> disk0_name=3D"disk0.img"
> uuid=3D"30c90d9a-be0f-11ef-a78a-b42e99a1b9c3"
> network0_mac=3D"58:9c:fc:0b:a3:ff"
> graphics=3D"yes"
> xhci_mouse=3D"yes"
> graphics_listen=3D"127.0.0.1"
> graphics_port=3D"591"
> graphics_vga=3Dio
> utctime=3D"no"
>
> linux.cfg:
> loader=3D"uefi"
> cpu=3D2
> memory=3D4096M
> network0_type=3D"virtio-net"
> network0_switch=3D"public"
> disk0_type=3D"virtio-blk"
> disk0_name=3D"disk0.img"
> uuid=3D"5307ee72-be0f-11ef-a78a-b42e99a1b9c3"
> network0_mac=3D"58:9c:fc:a7:7b:ef"
> graphics=3D"yes"
> graphics_listen=3D"127.0.0.1"
> graphics_port=3D"5901"
> graphics_vga=3Dio
>
> Anyone an idea what could be wrong, or, how to debug this? Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
>
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On 19.12.24 23:24, Dudley Innocent wrote:
> I am looking at your Windows 10 bhyve configuration and I notice your
> memory is set to 20480M, which is 20GB. Did you mean 2048M which
> translates to 2GB?
thanks for having a look. 20GB of RAM is right, since veeam Backup for
Microsoft365 lists 16GB as minimum requirement (which is ridiculous
imho). Switching that VM off does not change anything.
I did another test with a 14.1 boot environment: the behaviour is the
same, also build time inside the VM is roughly the same.
Regards,
Robert
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On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 05:15:31PM +0100, infoomatic wrote:
> some more infos:
>
> Shutting down "windows" results in the host being responsive for a
> longer period of time, however, at some point htop shows ~60% cpu usage
> of "linux" and load average is ~40.
> The ssh connection becomes unusable, showing keystrokes/characters
> roughly 10-30 seconds delayed.
>
htop is not 100% reliable. You should verify it with top.
top -S show you system processes. That should tell you what makes the system unresponsive. You could also check use systat. Pure systat shows you the system load and systat -iostat shows you whether the linux build maxes out the IO capabilities of your system.
--
Best regards,
Daniel
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On 20.12.24 07:25, Daniel Tameling wrote:
> htop is not 100% reliable. You should verify it with top.
>
> top -S show you system processes. That should tell you what makes the sy=
stem unresponsive. You could also check use systat. Pure systat shows you =
the system load and systat -iostat shows you whether the linux build maxes=
out the IO capabilities of your system.
>
This was my initial suspicion, too. However, it was roughly the same as
top -S has shown, processes with with most WCPU are bhyve (~150%) and
kernel and idle jumping back and forth between 5 and 500% and here and
there zfs appearing, so nothing unusual. systat -iostat shows IO is
pretty saturated, and no weird interrupt storms or something unusual.
When the system is in this unfavorable state, a DNS lookup using drill
on the host takes > 10 seconds (the host is in a datacenter and has a
decent 1GBit connection, usually this is done in under 100ms (mostly
between 15 and 50))
I found this [1] thread and tried to replace virtio-blk with nvme. This
improved the situation - reducing load to 20-25 (dns request on the host
~ 4 seconds). Build time in the linux vm is down to 17 minutes from 23.
Further improvement can be reached by setting priority=3D"10" in the
vm.conf file which increases niceness/lowers priority.
Build time increases by roughly 20 seconds (which I really do not care
in this setting), whereas responsiveness on the host increases quite a
bit. Using priority=3D"16" adds just 10 seconds more and further increases
responsiveness to a level where working on the host is fine and one
barely recognizes that the system is actually doing something in a VM,
which is my desired state.
I will also have a look at the rctl settings and maybe do some scheduler
tweaking - the sysctls kern.sched come to mind.
However, imho a guest being able to cannibalize the hosts resources in
such a way that the host becomes barely usable (with the default
configuration) should be improved.
Thanks for your input!
Robert
[1]
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization/2024-February/00=
1952.html