From nobody Mon Nov 4 14:24:28 2024 X-Original-To: rc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XhtyN3rv5z5c8Qn for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 14:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XhtyM6s0Yz4TFf for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 14:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1730730268; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=taBHiZt6Q0DYzh9j096UEYv/IbI5f+Bk+lQFcdIDr1M=; b=qwj33BC9yObS7vOnke1d6yur6r6CZjkBBCeX6DtBFr5606QE4tWiDetoypK8B3WV4cov3K 72PZC6NhQmWsBgpo7RvOO7uZSCscHe8qWIMG2fYU3ea6SJydFrm3uriUPbHq+s9wFsvD/B bpV0EhwQZCHDPy91YDhkjz1F1ByxMdGoxnuDypUM1rn1+OluygGBWqM4nmM/3RkcXuO+fP 8VYBV240qw9u+2bHQ+kVMyxZDbYBl+Wgh+GzEiAmw1pFUqzkbGSRpREEsqQY0P+q8Xq+gF f9/rm5IsvTX3bptJ4fIEl8DVGtmZRfhvthm7jgkkxLdeRS085E/mRYhhfJQysw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1730730268; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=uoS42mXi4oTgMXjodOmOCe59BQCWzSZCj+e7CuG/3mh+/Fwjqr7BBNIKln3jW8WUcEHC5w RKxPOo7HkT5WaQ2I1VgFfKJKZcEB1anRxAq8knKeryfGXWK6KBNw4akqTS+kcJFyT7JP7z XCGuk87iZMuEdPnL9FJDSsZ73R1r7S7o5nfkwbZG1UEh5Wni5DOcXkmWbvUmCDibQwVplO YmwHpkR2AFtY9+kESxwBjz8cn9G1iJj9muew5pBJNiWQ2iDui9muGfSUoJDXtSs8KldTAJ xbXnZzLmNNeFXcXICUtiG2oAC/Z4+rb0RWzie/+U/MtZWQfyjZd9iAwGHAOMcQ== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XhtyM6KxTzcLs for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 14:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 4A4EORJc069143 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 14:24:27 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 4A4EOR1o069142 for rc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 14:24:27 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: rc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 282324] pkgbase: Utilities used by FreeBSD-rc-14.1 RC Scripts require dragging in bloated utilities Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 14:24:28 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 14.1-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: feature, pkgbase X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: markj@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: rc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: keywords bug_status cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-rc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282324 Mark Johnston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |feature Status|New |Open CC| |bapt@FreeBSD.org, | |manu@freebsd.org, | |markj@FreeBSD.org --- Comment #1 from Mark Johnston --- I'm not sure how realistic this is - the set of utilities touched by differ= ent rc scripts is quite large. Some of the pkgbase subdivisions don't make sense to me. For instance, /etc/rc.d/syslogd belongs to the rc package, not the syslogd package - is t= his intentional? In general I'd expect FreeBSD-rc to contain the rc framework,= and individual rc scripts should be bundled with the package where it makes the most sense. Either way, keeping all of these pkg combinations working is going to be a maintenance burden. I'd start by auditing all of the rc scripts and making sure that they belong to the "right" package. Then, add some checks to ens= ure that no rc.d scripts are included with the rc package - each rc.d script belongs in some other package together with the utilities it depends on. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Mon Nov 4 15:07:12 2024 X-Original-To: rc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Xhvvh103dz5cBv7 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Xhvvg6G0lz4cY6 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; 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Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 4A4F7BcN036064 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:07:11 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 4A4F7BhX036063 for rc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:07:11 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: rc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 282324] pkgbase: Utilities used by FreeBSD-rc-14.1 RC Scripts require dragging in bloated utilities Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 15:07:12 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 14.1-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: feature, pkgbase X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: manu@freebsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: rc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-rc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282324 --- Comment #2 from Emmanuel Vadot --- (In reply to Mark Johnston from comment #1) syslogd rc should be in the syslogd package, probably a mistake that I made when I created the syslogd package. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Mon Nov 4 18:33:30 2024 X-Original-To: rc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Xj0Tk4gGqz5cPb4 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2024 18:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Xj0Tk2BqTz49Mk for ; 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Mon, 4 Nov 2024 18:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 4A4IXUFX004578 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 18:33:30 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 4A4IXUIR004577 for rc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Nov 2024 18:33:30 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: rc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 282324] pkgbase: Utilities used by FreeBSD-rc-14.1 RC Scripts require dragging in bloated utilities Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 18:33:30 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: bin X-Bugzilla-Version: 14.1-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: feature, pkgbase X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: jeff+freebsd@wagsky.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: rc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-rc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D282324 --- Comment #3 from Jeff Kletsky --- I agree that most of the service-specific rc files would make more sense to install/update/remove along with the service they manage. I'm not sure where to draw the line but as a user, I would expect things li= ke mounting file systems, changing run levels, and running the rc scripts for runtime services to be from the FreeBSD-base system or the FreeBSD-runtime package. I acknowledge that the range of utilities used by third-party rc scripts is virtually unlimited. If "all" were to be included it would be worse than bringing in the whole of FreeBSD-utilities along with the likes of TCL, Per= l, and Python 2. A reasonable compromise for me would be to have the "most common" and highly useful utilities available in FreeBSD-runtime. FreeBSD-rescue is an option = for some, but requires a change of PATH for the rc execution on reduced-footpri= nt systems. Conceivably this could be done automatically, but I haven't thought that far ahead. As a starting point for those "most common" utilities that seem to not to be present in FreeBSD-runtime, I came up with the list below from my limited experience. `awk` isn't something that I use myself, but I have seen used. `false` is arguable though I'd expect it there if the `|| true` construct is available. `od` and `hexdump` have shown up for loading firmware or setting registers = for network devices, at least in other OSes I've worked with. `su` is sometimes needed to assume a service's user `nologin` is present in the distributed user data I'm personally OK with needing to install the compression/decompression utilities with FreeBSD-rescue, though would prefer if they were available as -utilities-compression or something like that or by-algorithm packages. /usr/bin awk basename cut dirname false hexdump od su touch tr true uniq wc yes /usr/sbin chgrp -- rescue chown -- rescue chroot -- rescue daemon nologin (and its symlink as /sbin/nologin) bz, gz, xz, zstd compression and decompression -- rescue realpath -- runtime sort -- runtime find -- runtime tar -- runtime --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Sat Nov 9 02:46:52 2024 X-Original-To: rc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XlgF84sbTz5d9ds for ; 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Sat, 9 Nov 2024 02:46:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: rc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 190793] Some rc scripts return non zero status on success Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 02:46:52 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: conf X-Bugzilla-Version: 10.0-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: patch X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: linimon@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: rc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: attachments.filename Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-rc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D190793 Mark Linimon changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #143528|rc.txt |rc_d.patch filename| | --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=