From nobody Mon Apr 22 05:59:48 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VNF2k4fJXz5JNnH for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 05:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de) Received: from umail2.aei.mpg.de (umail2.aei.mpg.de [194.94.224.8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VNF2j4vwrz4qn3; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 05:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de designates 194.94.224.8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de Received: from arc.aei.uni-hannover.de (ahgate1.aei.uni-hannover.de [130.75.117.49]) by umail2.aei.mpg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE921BA06E1; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:59:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:59:48 +0200 From: Gerrit =?UTF-8?B?S8O8aG4=?= To: Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possible regression handling packet fragmentation in 14.0 with tftp/pxe Message-ID: <20240422075948.5bb856ac@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <86y1999wwe.fsf@ltc.des.dev> References: <20240419153951.5a23ce5f@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> <86y1999wwe.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Organization: MPG X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Gdv=.qnOy7tmj3EMLUFINuV"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA384 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.70 / 15.00]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.904]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[194.94.224.8:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(-0.20)[194.94.224.8:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:194.94.224.8]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:680, ipnet:194.94.0.0/15, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[mpg.de]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VNF2j4vwrz4qn3 --Sig_/Gdv=.qnOy7tmj3EMLUFINuV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Fri, 19 Apr 2024 17:48:01 +0200 schrieb Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav : > Since you control the routers and endpoints, I would suggest running > tcpdump at various points to see what is the tunnel and pf are doing to > the UDP packets. They are presumably getting fragmented at some point, > and hopefully reassembled somewhere else. Yes, I can acces all tap, bridge, and ethernet interfaces along the way (well, apart from what the pxe client actually receives, this is hidden in its firmware). However, I already did that last week but was not able to spot the culprit (the packet being sent back to the pxe client machine is 1460 bytes, so it looks complete to me but is obviously not accepted on the client's end). I'll probably have to read up more on tcpdump and fragmentation handling first to get a better understanding of what I am actually looking for. Any idea what the "bad length 1460 > 1392" message on the 13.3 system means (and why everything is still working)? > Meanwhile you can also set the net.inet.udp.maxdgram sysctl to 1425 on > the NFS server, as tftpd will cap the blocksize to that value. That's an interesting hint I didn't see before. thanks. As the server is used by a bunch of systems and the "-o" option works around the issue for me right now, I will probably refrain from toying with the setting on the production system and see if I can come up with a separate test setup instead. I am working on a new server machine that will come with a migration from syslinux/mbr to ipxe/uefi and thus reduce the usage of tftp (it will only be used for the first ipxe firmware/bootloader step then - bootmenu, kernel and initramfs will be transferred over http). This might give me a good test environment where I can try things without breaking the production system. As this appears to be different behaviour on 13.3 and 14.0, I had hoped this might already be sufficient to ring a bell for someone here reading this (like "oh, yes, there were changes in pf that cause different handling of fragmented udp packets"). 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https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gerrit K=C3=BChn writes: > Any idea what the "bad length 1460 > 1392" message on the 13.3 system > means (and why everything is still working)? Off the top of my head, it means the packet length according to its header is longer than the capture length but the MF flag is not set. Historically, it meant you needed to increase tcpdump's snaplen, but these days it defaults to 256 kB so it shouldn't matter. It might be a bug in bpf, or an interaction between pf and bpf. > As this appears to be different behaviour on 13.3 and 14.0, I had hoped > this might already be sufficient to ring a bell for someone here reading > this (like "oh, yes, there were changes in pf that cause different > handling of fragmented udp packets"). There were changes in tftpd, but I don't know if that's relevant. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.86 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.84 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.55)[0.549]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f3e0::/32]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[199.212.134.19:received]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mike]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sentex.net]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VNSs93W5qz4n26 I upgraded a RELENG_13 box from last March to one today to bring in some of the zfs bug fixes.  But now I have this warning on a pool that was not there before.  But the special devices (two 2TB samsungs) are 512 according to smartctl ?  Any idea why this warning popped up on the pool all of a sudden ? the disks and pool have been the same for a year or so. # smartctl -a /dev/da4 === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family:     Samsung based SSDs Device Model:     Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB Serial Number:    S6PNNM0W619793P LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 fc36093bc Firmware Version: SVT02B6Q User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB] Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device # zpool status zbackup1 -v   pool: zbackup1  state: ONLINE status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size.         Expect reduced performance. action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the         configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured         pool.   scan: scrub repaired 0B in 1 days 12:33:12 with 0 errors on Sun Dec 10 17:45:06 2023 config:         NAME                               STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         zbackup1                           ONLINE       0 0     0           raidz1-0                         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAGGPZKLp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAHZDXALp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAJ0S1DLp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAHZRMSLp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAHZAN4Lp1         ONLINE       0 0     0           raidz1-2                         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EJD0HUZp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EJD5Y7Zp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EK5KGUZp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EK112WZp1         ONLINE       0 0     0         special           mirror-1                         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-S6PNNM0W619793Pp1  ONLINE       0 0     0  block size: 512B configured, 4096B native             diskid/DISK-S6PNNM0W619816Bp1  ONLINE       0 0     0  block size: 512B configured, 4096B native errors: No known data errors From nobody Mon Apr 22 15:18:46 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VNTRW4Sphz5HJCw for ; 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Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3C3FE1F301; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:18:46 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: mike tancsa Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: block size: 512B configured, 4096B native all of a sudden In-Reply-To: <9a593ca1-4975-438a-afec-d8dd5199dbcf@sentex.net> (mike tancsa's message of "Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:52:19 -0400") References: <9a593ca1-4975-438a-afec-d8dd5199dbcf@sentex.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:18:46 +0200 Message-ID: <86bk618lyh.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike tancsa writes: > I upgraded a RELENG_13 box from last March to one today to bring in > some of the zfs bug fixes. But now I have this warning on a pool that > was not there before. But the special devices (two 2TB samsungs) are > 512 according to smartctl? Any idea why this warning popped up on the > pool all of a sudden? the disks and pool have been the same for a > year or so. what does `sysctl vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift` say? > Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical The SSD is doing read-copy-update behind the scenes to support a 512-byte sector size for compatibility reasons, the real sector size is unlikely to be less than 4 kB and may actually be significantly larger. 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But now I have this warning on a pool that >> was not there before. But the special devices (two 2TB samsungs) are >> 512 according to smartctl? Any idea why this warning popped up on the >> pool all of a sudden? the disks and pool have been the same for a >> year or so. > what does `sysctl vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift` say?  sysctl vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift: 9 >> Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical > The SSD is doing read-copy-update behind the scenes to support a > 512-byte sector size for compatibility reasons, the real sector size is > unlikely to be less than 4 kB and may actually be significantly larger. Where what would be picking up the "true" size and why the change from a March 4th system to one today ?     ---Mike --------------i3NhsmX00aFPf00L2TS5AVAO Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 4/22/2024 11:18 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
mike tancsa <mike@sentex.net> writes:
I upgraded a RELENG_13 box from last March to one today to bring in
some of the zfs bug fixes.  But now I have this warning on a pool that
was not there before.  But the special devices (two 2TB samsungs) are
512 according to smartctl?  Any idea why this warning popped up on the
pool all of a sudden?  the disks and pool have been the same for a
year or so.
what does `sysctl vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift` say?
 sysctl vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift
vfs.zfs.vdev.min_auto_ashift: 9

      
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
The SSD is doing read-copy-update behind the scenes to support a
512-byte sector size for compatibility reasons, the real sector size is
unlikely to be less than 4 kB and may actually be significantly larger.

Where what would be picking up the "true" size and why the change from a March 4th system to one today ?

    ---Mike

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https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3Db7dce5b8e988f47784c55aa096541deda= 7b1aaeb DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org From nobody Mon Apr 22 15:33:05 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VNTm32VHHz5HKq3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smarthost1.sentex.ca", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VNTm24Ds5z4vTT; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from pyroxene2a.sentex.ca (pyroxene19.sentex.ca [199.212.134.19]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.17.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 43MFX6Cf006732 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:33:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPV6:2607:f3e0:0:4:486a:7a6f:42a:68f5] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:486a:7a6f:42a:68f5]) by pyroxene2a.sentex.ca (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 43MFX5TQ040837 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:33:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <57a1cc6b-2bd2-4292-9fde-f8799ffa291a@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:33:05 -0400 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: block size: 512B configured, 4096B native all of a sudden To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: <9a593ca1-4975-438a-afec-d8dd5199dbcf@sentex.net> <86bk618lyh.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <867cgp8lgu.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Language: en-US From: mike tancsa Autocrypt: addr=mike@sentex.net; keydata= xsBNBFywzOMBCACoNFpwi5MeyEREiCeHtbm6pZJI/HnO+wXdCAWtZkS49weOoVyUj5BEXRZP xflV2ib2hflX4nXqhenaNiia4iaZ9ft3I1ebd7GEbGnsWCvAnob5MvDZyStDAuRxPJK1ya/s +6rOvr+eQiXYNVvfBhrCfrtR/esSkitBGxhUkBjOti8QwzD71JVF5YaOjBAs7jZUKyLGj0kW yDg4jUndudWU7G2yc9GwpHJ9aRSUN8e/mWdIogK0v+QBHfv/dsI6zVB7YuxCC9Fx8WPwfhDH VZC4kdYCQWKXrm7yb4TiVdBh5kgvlO9q3js1yYdfR1x8mjK2bH2RSv4bV3zkNmsDCIxjABEB AAHNHW1pa2UgdGFuY3NhIDxtaWtlQHNlbnRleC5uZXQ+wsCOBBMBCAA4FiEEmuvCXT0aY6hs 4SbWeVOEFl5WrMgFAl+pQfkCGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQeVOEFl5W rMiN6ggAk3H5vk8QnbvGbb4sinxZt/wDetgk0AOR9NRmtTnPaW+sIJEfGBOz47Xih+f7uWJS j+uvc9Ewn2Z7n8z3ZHJlLAByLVLtcNXGoRIGJ27tevfOaNqgJHBPbFOcXCBBFTx4MYMM4iAZ cDT5vsBTSaM36JZFtHZBKkuFEItbA/N8ZQSHKdTYMIA7A3OCLGbJBqloQ8SlW4MkTzKX4u7R yefAYQ0h20x9IqC5Ju8IsYRFacVZconT16KS81IBceO42vXTN0VexbVF2rZIx3v/NT75r6Vw 0FlXVB1lXOHKydRA2NeleS4NEG2vWqy/9Boj0itMfNDlOhkrA/0DcCurMpnpbM7ATQRcsMzk AQgA1Dpo/xWS66MaOJLwA28sKNMwkEk1Yjs+okOXDOu1F+0qvgE8sVmrOOPvvWr4axtKRSG1 t2QUiZ/ZkW/x/+t0nrM39EANV1VncuQZ1ceIiwTJFqGZQ8kb0+BNkwuNVFHRgXm1qzAJweEt RdsCMohB+H7BL5LGCVG5JaU0lqFU9pFP40HxEbyzxjsZgSE8LwkI6wcu0BLv6K6cLm0EiHPO l5G8kgRi38PS7/6s3R8QDsEtbGsYy6O82k3zSLIjuDBwA9GRaeigGppTxzAHVjf5o9KKu4O7 gC2KKVHPegbXS+GK7DU0fjzX57H5bZ6komE5eY4p3oWT/CwVPSGfPs8jOwARAQABwsB2BBgB CAAgFiEEmuvCXT0aY6hs4SbWeVOEFl5WrMgFAl+pQfkCGwwACgkQeVOEFl5WrMiVqwf9GwU8 c6cylknZX8QwlsVudTC8xr/L17JA84wf03k3d4wxP7bqy5AYy7jboZMbgWXngAE/HPQU95NM aukysSnknzoIpC96XZJ0okLBXVS6Y0ylZQ+HrbIhMpuQPoDweoF5F9wKrsHRoDaUK1VR706X rwm4HUzh7Jk+auuMYfuCh0FVlFBEuiJWMLhg/5WCmcRfiuB6F59ZcUQrwLEZeNhF2XJV4KwB Tlg7HCWO/sy1foE5noaMyACjAtAQE9p5kGYaj+DuRhPdWUTsHNuqrhikzIZd2rrcMid+ktb0 NvtvswzMO059z1YGMtGSqQ4srCArju+XHIdTFdiIYbd7+jeehg== In-Reply-To: <867cgp8lgu.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.86 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VNTm24Ds5z4vTT On 4/22/2024 11:29 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > mike tancsa writes: >> Where what would be picking up the "true" size and why the change from >> a March 4th system to one today ? > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=b7dce5b8e988f47784c55aa096541deda7b1aaeb Well, that explains it :)  I guess the next question is how can I fix the issue ? its over 73TB and would take quite a long time to zfs send | zre recv. The HDDs are indeed 4K disks. If I offline the 2 SSD disks that are part of the special device one by one and resilver, will it fix it ?  zpool status   pool: zbackup1  state: ONLINE status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size.         Expect reduced performance. action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the         configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured         pool.   scan: scrub repaired 0B in 1 days 12:33:12 with 0 errors on Sun Dec 10 17:45:06 2023 config:         NAME                               STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         zbackup1                           ONLINE       0 0     0           raidz1-0                         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAGGPZKLp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAHZDXALp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAJ0S1DLp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAHZRMSLp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-VAHZAN4Lp1         ONLINE       0 0     0           raidz1-2                         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EJD0HUZp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EJD5Y7Zp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EK5KGUZp1         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-1EK112WZp1         ONLINE       0 0     0         special           mirror-1                         ONLINE       0 0     0             diskid/DISK-S6PNNM0W619793Pp1  ONLINE       0 0     0  block size: 512B configured, 4096B native             diskid/DISK-S6PNNM0W619816Bp1  ONLINE       0 0     0  block size: 512B configured, 4096B native     ---Mike From nobody Mon Apr 22 15:37:50 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VNTsW4vTRz5HLH0 for ; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike tancsa writes: > I guess the next question is how can I fix the issue? its over 73TB > and would take quite a long time to zfs send | zre recv. The HDDs are > indeed 4K disks. If I offline the 2 SSD disks that are part of the > special device one by one and resilver, will it fix it? No, the ashift is a vdev property. You'll have to remove one disk from the pool, create a new pool, send | recv across, then destroy the old pool and add the remaining disk to the new pool. Make sure you have a backup before you start. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org From nobody Mon Apr 22 15:44:56 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VNV1j14Kvz5HLrk for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smarthost1.sentex.ca", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VNV1j0dtTz41jY; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from pyroxene2a.sentex.ca (pyroxene19.sentex.ca [199.212.134.19]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.17.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 43MFiv6c010803 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:44:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [IPV6:2607:f3e0:0:4:486a:7a6f:42a:68f5] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:486a:7a6f:42a:68f5]) by pyroxene2a.sentex.ca (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 43MFiuwh045062 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:44:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:44:56 -0400 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: block size: 512B configured, 4096B native all of a sudden To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: <9a593ca1-4975-438a-afec-d8dd5199dbcf@sentex.net> <86bk618lyh.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <867cgp8lgu.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <57a1cc6b-2bd2-4292-9fde-f8799ffa291a@sentex.net> <8634rd8l2p.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Language: en-US From: mike tancsa Autocrypt: addr=mike@sentex.net; keydata= xsBNBFywzOMBCACoNFpwi5MeyEREiCeHtbm6pZJI/HnO+wXdCAWtZkS49weOoVyUj5BEXRZP xflV2ib2hflX4nXqhenaNiia4iaZ9ft3I1ebd7GEbGnsWCvAnob5MvDZyStDAuRxPJK1ya/s +6rOvr+eQiXYNVvfBhrCfrtR/esSkitBGxhUkBjOti8QwzD71JVF5YaOjBAs7jZUKyLGj0kW yDg4jUndudWU7G2yc9GwpHJ9aRSUN8e/mWdIogK0v+QBHfv/dsI6zVB7YuxCC9Fx8WPwfhDH VZC4kdYCQWKXrm7yb4TiVdBh5kgvlO9q3js1yYdfR1x8mjK2bH2RSv4bV3zkNmsDCIxjABEB AAHNHW1pa2UgdGFuY3NhIDxtaWtlQHNlbnRleC5uZXQ+wsCOBBMBCAA4FiEEmuvCXT0aY6hs 4SbWeVOEFl5WrMgFAl+pQfkCGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQeVOEFl5W rMiN6ggAk3H5vk8QnbvGbb4sinxZt/wDetgk0AOR9NRmtTnPaW+sIJEfGBOz47Xih+f7uWJS j+uvc9Ewn2Z7n8z3ZHJlLAByLVLtcNXGoRIGJ27tevfOaNqgJHBPbFOcXCBBFTx4MYMM4iAZ cDT5vsBTSaM36JZFtHZBKkuFEItbA/N8ZQSHKdTYMIA7A3OCLGbJBqloQ8SlW4MkTzKX4u7R yefAYQ0h20x9IqC5Ju8IsYRFacVZconT16KS81IBceO42vXTN0VexbVF2rZIx3v/NT75r6Vw 0FlXVB1lXOHKydRA2NeleS4NEG2vWqy/9Boj0itMfNDlOhkrA/0DcCurMpnpbM7ATQRcsMzk AQgA1Dpo/xWS66MaOJLwA28sKNMwkEk1Yjs+okOXDOu1F+0qvgE8sVmrOOPvvWr4axtKRSG1 t2QUiZ/ZkW/x/+t0nrM39EANV1VncuQZ1ceIiwTJFqGZQ8kb0+BNkwuNVFHRgXm1qzAJweEt RdsCMohB+H7BL5LGCVG5JaU0lqFU9pFP40HxEbyzxjsZgSE8LwkI6wcu0BLv6K6cLm0EiHPO l5G8kgRi38PS7/6s3R8QDsEtbGsYy6O82k3zSLIjuDBwA9GRaeigGppTxzAHVjf5o9KKu4O7 gC2KKVHPegbXS+GK7DU0fjzX57H5bZ6komE5eY4p3oWT/CwVPSGfPs8jOwARAQABwsB2BBgB CAAgFiEEmuvCXT0aY6hs4SbWeVOEFl5WrMgFAl+pQfkCGwwACgkQeVOEFl5WrMiVqwf9GwU8 c6cylknZX8QwlsVudTC8xr/L17JA84wf03k3d4wxP7bqy5AYy7jboZMbgWXngAE/HPQU95NM aukysSnknzoIpC96XZJ0okLBXVS6Y0ylZQ+HrbIhMpuQPoDweoF5F9wKrsHRoDaUK1VR706X rwm4HUzh7Jk+auuMYfuCh0FVlFBEuiJWMLhg/5WCmcRfiuB6F59ZcUQrwLEZeNhF2XJV4KwB Tlg7HCWO/sy1foE5noaMyACjAtAQE9p5kGYaj+DuRhPdWUTsHNuqrhikzIZd2rrcMid+ktb0 NvtvswzMO059z1YGMtGSqQ4srCArju+XHIdTFdiIYbd7+jeehg== In-Reply-To: <8634rd8l2p.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.86 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VNV1j0dtTz41jY On 4/22/2024 11:37 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > mike tancsa writes: >> I guess the next question is how can I fix the issue? its over 73TB >> and would take quite a long time to zfs send | zre recv. The HDDs are >> indeed 4K disks. If I offline the 2 SSD disks that are part of the >> special device one by one and resilver, will it fix it? > No, the ashift is a vdev property. You'll have to remove one disk from > the pool, create a new pool, send | recv across, then destroy the old > pool and add the remaining disk to the new pool. Make sure you have a > backup before you start. I was afraid of that. So basically I have to copy the entire pool or live with the performance penalty :(  73TB is a lot to copy / move.     ---Mike From nobody Mon Apr 22 15:49:50 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VNV7N2zr3z5HM2l for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VNV7N1x2tz42yp; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1713800992; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1pE6zaWkCpOfx+jGk99jjwXWmYgUqVlfctd6J0fQiGM=; b=AyrwMFRK2CzI7QO+OKQFrkoL7wQlCTt7csfeZI0emGqyJ6jNYn+hndrzltkk1zKHgbqRdU S7W/hnB9GuPSE+j12mTTlBupkLV5Npqnj4iph0z5xNw2nuT5hqNFZemtTz6g/awiRChlik EVTlvcrUrlfUKRuVToUW3A0YWVWix+tVvIHl59GUsMBTamRT1ZlgIHwL4pto7p/ths3ZM1 oU4NtR1oG77QpF1y77qlvEhgXeVlQLpDJ+YUSguyjt4DEQbUYTMhwPoGVLEiGvNqXQ+pYi gdhTlCxBxsrlKLNgRIsfZk/gSMSabW+WUBxJGvqHrfowv/hFkgZRFqpYBwIj/A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1713800992; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=nrsw2H29dSf8l8e+VtmaFZmqxcRAVfiv9h0L4ZCb5V1FG1B/EXG//ZsX9aQYCUG0H9Pqnu fRY75I34Q6jQT3Rbqm4S0gQubpRp2k6dQDSpMcGFevPLX9z9lR7wWPPo6j90qU4LM1cKJV uCdcUTr2dKaSooRumQKH1ad/XLfHCoukqRyypkPSKSIif+joavBNjLURI4BPsiu6zMybZB Zmkd1pXQJMbtO146m8JZv0oXLKFdV4sMxz9kVuAY2LupTg9nJo1gTRXChEkatjHiV8qhJR O/UNJ1pg5f2lLvzGe66r1TzIOD3PprFnpmikevcuowQMGGqvkAmF067rY/sUGA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1713800992; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1pE6zaWkCpOfx+jGk99jjwXWmYgUqVlfctd6J0fQiGM=; b=huEOGCgsLTAw38DQISmcsXheT+X0t7g3+10JtvsLuK2Zr4JKwia0jYgsYhoJ3cMDWx/BEi Ev5akOfBDyzldpp8hfN0W278QLSM9VG0lw8FM7ufpp03PwOb5CA6dtV6E1gzLvchG+US4n iwarsrodwtMmYH+BkK7RBts+Ecwl++Zm23E9OfPfndI4jMF0yr6HGkvXZ25E6SrIf3Cf9B h1XgWqg44Ux0MFK/V84ROebTZbL9RuRTQ95EKX8vhtpE35bQBGIsrELzZZ2gYcGIfOeOvn R2GRmf4RCK0QDrddur6KViX8xb5LS7t63mMZI09BsmaVgxMq4u/7xBQliL3yhA== Received: from ltc.des.dev (2a02-8428-0993-f001-922e-16ff-fef1-acef.rev.sfr.net [IPv6:2a02:8428:993:f001:922e:16ff:fef1:acef]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4VNV7N0lzPz1M2v; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DA1E61B257; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:49:50 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: mike tancsa Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: block size: 512B configured, 4096B native all of a sudden In-Reply-To: (mike tancsa's message of "Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:44:56 -0400") References: <9a593ca1-4975-438a-afec-d8dd5199dbcf@sentex.net> <86bk618lyh.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <867cgp8lgu.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <57a1cc6b-2bd2-4292-9fde-f8799ffa291a@sentex.net> <8634rd8l2p.fsf@ltc.des.dev> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:49:50 +0200 Message-ID: <86y19575y9.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mike tancsa writes: > I was afraid of that. So basically I have to copy the entire pool or > live with the performance penalty :(=C2=A0 73TB is a lot to copy / move. Oh I didn't realize those disks were part of the larger pool, I thought they were a separate pool named =E2=80=9Cspecial=E2=80=9D. You might be ab= le to simply detach and then re-attach both drives, afaik a draid can function without its special vdev. 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So basically I have to copy the entire pool or >> live with the performance penalty :(  73TB is a lot to copy / move. > Oh I didn't realize those disks were part of the larger pool, I thought > they were a separate pool named “special”. You might be able to simply > detach and then re-attach both drives, afaik a draid can function > without its special vdev. Yeah, its an actual special vdev I added to speed up metadata and small file access.  zpool-detach I think only works on mirrors and not raidz vdevs.  From searching google, there does not seem to be a way to detach a special vdev from a raidz pool.     ---Mike --------------8wQQkuVG6IE0W4HytDLZhv06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 4/22/2024 11:49 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
mike tancsa <mike@sentex.net> writes:
I was afraid of that. So basically I have to copy the entire pool or
live with the performance penalty :(  73TB is a lot to copy / move.
Oh I didn't realize those disks were part of the larger pool, I thought
they were a separate pool named “special”.  You might be able to simply
detach and then re-attach both drives, afaik a draid can function
without its special vdev.

Yeah, its an actual special vdev I added to speed up metadata and small file access.  zpool-detach I think only works on mirrors and not raidz vdevs.  From searching google, there does not seem to be a way to detach a special vdev from a raidz pool.

    ---Mike

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So basically I have to copy the entire pool or >>> live with the performance penalty :(  73TB is a lot to copy / move. >> Oh I didn't realize those disks were part of the larger pool, I thought >> they were a separate pool named “special”. You might be able to simply >> detach and then re-attach both drives, afaik a draid can function >> without its special vdev. > > Yeah, its an actual special vdev I added to speed up metadata and > small file access.  zpool-detach I think only works on mirrors and not > raidz vdevs.  From searching google, there does not seem to be a way > to detach a special vdev from a raidz pool. > > I think I  confirmed my suspicion with a quick test pool truncate -s 100G /quirk-test/junk.raw truncate -s 100G /quirk-test/junk2.raw mdconfig -f /quirk-test/junk.raw mdconfig -f /quirk-test/junk2.raw gpart create -s gpt md0 gpart create -s gpt md1 gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md0 gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md0 gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md0 gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md1 gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md1 gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md1 zpool create testpool raidz1 /dev/md0p1 /dev/md1p1 /dev/md0p2 /dev/md1p2 zpool add testpool special mirror /dev/md0p3 /dev/md1p3 zpool status   pool: testpool  state: ONLINE config:         NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         testpool    ONLINE       0     0     0           raidz1-0  ONLINE       0     0     0             md0p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             md1p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             md0p2   ONLINE       0     0     0             md1p2   ONLINE       0     0     0         special           mirror-1  ONLINE       0     0     0             md0p3   ONLINE       0     0     0             md1p3   ONLINE       0     0     0  # zpool remove testpool mirror-1 cannot remove mirror-1: invalid config; all top-level vdevs must have the same sector size and not be raidz. zpool detach just nukes the mirror I think for the special vdev #  zpool detach testpool /dev/md1p3 # zpool status   pool: quirk-test  state: ONLINE   scan: resilvered 128G in 00:08:52 with 0 errors on Mon Apr  8 14:37:29 2024 config:         NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         quirk-test  ONLINE       0     0     0           raidz1-0  ONLINE       0     0     0             da4p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             da1p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             da2p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             da5p1   ONLINE       0     0     0 errors: No known data errors   pool: testpool  state: ONLINE config:         NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM         testpool    ONLINE       0     0     0           raidz1-0  ONLINE       0     0     0             md0p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             md1p1   ONLINE       0     0     0             md0p2   ONLINE       0     0     0             md1p2   ONLINE       0     0     0         special           md0p3     ONLINE       0     0     0 errors: No known data errors  # zpool remove testpool /dev/md0p3 cannot remove /dev/md0p3: invalid config; all top-level vdevs must have the same sector size and not be raidz.  # zpool detach testpool /dev/md0p3 cannot detach /dev/md0p3: only applicable to mirror and replacing vdevs     ---Mike --------------TeEYKHRauDcwvPTkUFKj80vS Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 4/22/2024 12:05 PM, mike tancsa wrote:
On 4/22/2024 11:49 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
mike tancsa <mike@sentex.net> writes:
I was afraid of that. So basically I have to copy the entire pool or
live with the performance penalty :(  73TB is a lot to copy / move.
Oh I didn't realize those disks were part of the larger pool, I thought
they were a separate pool named “special”.  You might be able to simply
detach and then re-attach both drives, afaik a draid can function
without its special vdev.

Yeah, its an actual special vdev I added to speed up metadata and small file access.  zpool-detach I think only works on mirrors and not raidz vdevs.  From searching google, there does not seem to be a way to detach a special vdev from a raidz pool.


I think I  confirmed my suspicion with a quick test pool

truncate -s 100G /quirk-test/junk.raw
truncate -s 100G /quirk-test/junk2.raw

mdconfig -f /quirk-test/junk.raw
mdconfig -f /quirk-test/junk2.raw
gpart create -s gpt md0
gpart create -s gpt md1
gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md0
gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md0
gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md0
gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md1
gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md1
gpart add -s 20G -t freebsd-zfs /dev/md1
zpool create testpool raidz1 /dev/md0p1 /dev/md1p1 /dev/md0p2 /dev/md1p2
zpool add testpool special mirror /dev/md0p3 /dev/md1p3
zpool status


  pool: testpool
 state: ONLINE
config:

        NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        testpool    ONLINE       0     0     0
          raidz1-0  ONLINE       0     0     0
            md0p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md1p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md0p2   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md1p2   ONLINE       0     0     0
        special
          mirror-1  ONLINE       0     0     0
            md0p3   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md1p3   ONLINE       0     0     0


 # zpool remove testpool mirror-1
cannot remove mirror-1: invalid config; all top-level vdevs must have the same sector size and not be raidz.

zpool detach just nukes the mirror I think for the special vdev

#  zpool detach testpool /dev/md1p3

# zpool status
  pool: quirk-test
 state: ONLINE
  scan: resilvered 128G in 00:08:52 with 0 errors on Mon Apr  8 14:37:29 2024
config:

        NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        quirk-test  ONLINE       0     0     0
          raidz1-0  ONLINE       0     0     0
            da4p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            da1p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            da2p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            da5p1   ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors

  pool: testpool
 state: ONLINE
config:

        NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        testpool    ONLINE       0     0     0
          raidz1-0  ONLINE       0     0     0
            md0p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md1p1   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md0p2   ONLINE       0     0     0
            md1p2   ONLINE       0     0     0
        special
          md0p3     ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors

 # zpool remove testpool /dev/md0p3
cannot remove /dev/md0p3: invalid config; all top-level vdevs must have the same sector size and not be raidz.

 # zpool detach testpool /dev/md0p3
cannot detach /dev/md0p3: only applicable to mirror and replacing vdevs


    ---Mike


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I didn't missed some of the previous details here, but I see you mention pf below. Did you happen to see this? https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=276856 -Matthew On 4/23/24 00:19, Gerrit Kühn wrote: > Am Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:57:42 +0200 > schrieb Dag-Erling Smørgrav : > >> Off the top of my head, it means the packet length according to its >> header is longer than the capture length but the MF flag is not set. >> Historically, it meant you needed to increase tcpdump's snaplen, but >> these days it defaults to 256 kB so it shouldn't matter. It might be a >> bug in bpf, or an interaction between pf and bpf. > So maybe this is rather a red herring than a pointer to the actual > difference in packet handling. > >> There were changes in tftpd, but I don't know if that's relevant. > Most certainly not as I didn't touch the server side. The tftpd there is > certainly old, but it worked fine up to FreeBSD 13.3 on the router. It is > the update to 14.0 that triggered the problem. > > > cu > Gerrit From nobody Wed Apr 24 05:54:17 2024 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VPSqJ2lYrz5Js3Y for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 05:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de) Received: from umail2.aei.mpg.de (umail2.aei.mpg.de [194.94.224.8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VPSqJ0g4rz4Zh5 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 05:54:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from arc.aei.uni-hannover.de (ahgate1.aei.uni-hannover.de [130.75.117.49]) by umail2.aei.mpg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE725200FA25; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:54:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 07:54:17 +0200 From: Gerrit =?UTF-8?B?S8O8aG4=?= To: Matthew Grooms Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possible regression handling packet fragmentation in 14.0 with tftp/pxe Message-ID: <20240424075417.6640e97f@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <922446cd-4511-4132-8e8f-9c9144a7f9b1@shrew.net> References: <20240419153951.5a23ce5f@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> <86y1999wwe.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <20240422075948.5bb856ac@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> <86o7a18ppl.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <20240423071923.52b90652@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> <922446cd-4511-4132-8e8f-9c9144a7f9b1@shrew.net> Organization: MPG X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/M.HaaghOy1/2ol2ORjl6XY="; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA384 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:680, ipnet:194.94.0.0/15, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VPSqJ0g4rz4Zh5 --Sig_/M.HaaghOy1/2ol2ORjl6XY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:50:33 -0500 schrieb Matthew Grooms : > Sorry. I didn't missed some of the previous details here, but I see you=20 > mention pf below. Did you happen to see this? >=20 > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D276856 Ah, great. No, I hadn't seen that before, thanks. This certainly looks like it might be the cause of the issue I see, although I'm not sure I fully understand the situation. What I get so far is that * 14.0 does not reassemble packets by default anymore when using scrub while 13.x did * 14.0 silently drops fragmented packets by default where 13.x didn't Is that correct? That would probably explain why tftp couldn't pass my vpn tunnel anymore. What I am using in my pf.conf is a simple --- scrub in all --- =46rom the bug report I get that either using --- scrub fragment reassemble --- or --- set reassemble yes --- should be able to fix this and get the old behaviour back? I remember playing with the "scrub fragment" option last week, but maybe I didn't try to explicitely turn it on as that was described as default in the manpage. Anyway, I'll look into this again, thank you very much for the pointer. One more question: Looking at the linked reviews: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42355 https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42270 These appear to address the issue. 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<20240423071923.52b90652@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> <922446cd-4511-4132-8e8f-9c9144a7f9b1@shrew.net> <20240424075417.6640e97f@arc.aei.uni-hannover.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 22:20:07 +0200 Message-ID: <864jbq7bt4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gerrit K=C3=BChn writes: > Is there an easy way to find out where this commit ends up, i.e., whether > it is merged into 14.0, 14.1 or so? I will make sure it gets into 14.1. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org