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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.883]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.85)[0.851]; R_MIXED_CHARSET(0.63)[subject]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[harrastenurkka.fi,reject]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.218.88.66:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:205449, ipnet:185.218.88.0/22, country:FI]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-accessibility@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-accessibility@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4c7bfH3QnVz3KjX hi I am a completely blind user, is there screen reader support in the freebsd installation, and like Debian, I have the impression that improvements to accessibility are being made, at what stage they are. I don't expect a polished, beautiful user experience, I am a nerd who lives on the command line and in vim