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Mon, 01 Sep 2025 11:08:20 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: FreeBSD accessibility discussions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-accessibility List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-accessibility@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-accessibility@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Alfonso Sabato Siciliano Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 20:08:12 +0200 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXxkCmmJwWZ59ZGgC-0d7ScplGBr-lct5DF22kZkg5qTegpstvrNPk757Kc Message-ID: Subject: Re: freebsd installer and blind users To: =?UTF-8?Q?Elias_St=C3=A5hlberg?= Cc: freebsd-accessibility@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ac674a063dc14117" X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.46 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.46)[-0.463]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; 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I > don't expect a polished, beautiful user experience, I am a nerd who > lives on the command line and in vim > > > Thank you for your interest in FreeBSD. Several projects sponsored by the FreeBSD Foundation are ongoing to improve accessibility in the system, including the installer. A draft of the Accessibility Handbook covering the assistive technologies currently available is now ready. You can find the table of contents, a preview, and the code for suggestions and feedback in the review at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50894. The handbook is expected to be published shortly. At the moment, the installer is not expected to be accessible through a screen reader, but three projects are planned to address this: Project 1: Connect the virtual console, called vt(4) in FreeBSD, with a speech synthesizer. Project 2: Design and implement a subsystem for Braille displays. Project 3: Implement a one-dimensional, text-only interface specifically designed for screen readers to install FreeBSD. When the installer starts, a simple key combination should activate screen reader mode. The current effort focuses on providing high-contrast themes for the installer and other system utilities with text user interfaces. Once the high-contrast project is completed, the 3 projects will start. All projects and improvements will be announced on this mailing list. Please feel free to share any feedback or ideas to improve FreeBSD's visual accessibility. Best regards, Alfonso Siciliano --000000000000ac674a063dc14117 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Elias,

On Fri, 22= Aug 2025 at 12:15, Elias St=C3=A5hlberg <elias.stahlberg@harrastenurkka.fi> wrote:
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hi

I am a completely blind user, is there screen reader support in the
freebsd installation, and like Debian, I have the impression that
improvements to accessibility are being made, at what stage they are. I don't expect a polished, beautiful user experience, I am a nerd who lives on the command line and in vim



Thank you for your interest in FreeBSD. Several p= rojects sponsored by the FreeBSD Foundation are ongoing to improve accessib= ility in the system, including the installer.

A draft of the Accessi= bility Handbook covering the assistive technologies currently available is = now ready. You can find the table of contents, a preview, and the code for = suggestions and feedback in the review at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50894. The handbook is expec= ted to be published shortly.

At the moment, the installer is not exp= ected to be accessible through a screen reader, but three projects are plan= ned to address this:
Project 1: Connect the virtual console, called vt(4= ) in FreeBSD, with a speech synthesizer.
Project 2: Design and implement= a subsystem for Braille displays.
Project 3: Implement a one-dimensiona= l, text-only interface specifically designed for screen readers to install = FreeBSD. When the installer starts, a simple key combination should activat= e screen reader mode.

The current effort focuses on providing high-c= ontrast themes for the installer and other system utilities with text user = interfaces. Once the high-contrast project is completed, the 3 projects wil= l start.

All projects and improvements will be announced on this mai= ling list. Please feel free to share any feedback or ideas to improve FreeB= SD's visual accessibility.

Best regards,
Alfonso Siciliano
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