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Zeeb" To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: (arm64) link_elf: symbol __floatundidf undefined ... 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I am a bit puzzed as to where this comes from in the kernel. # kldload wlan link_elf: symbol __floatundidf undefined: 0xffff000143ed1370 0xffff000143ecf9f0 11496 0xffff000143ed26d8 0x2 kldload: can't load wlan: No such file or directory % nm modules/usr/src/sys/modules/wlan/wlan.ko.full | grep float U __floatundidf Anyone any idea? -- Bjoern A. 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Content-Language: en-CA To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: From: Dennis Clarke Organization: GENUNIX In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 54QCPo5r059425 X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5Zjv2CxSz3QL4 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.82)[0.823]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.74)[-0.738]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[108.160.241.186:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] On 5/24/25 21:47, Mark Millard wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote on > Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 22:46:18 UTC : > >> wow ... archive ? Well why not and yes I will give that a whirl. >> >> Still doesn't clear up why I can not build from source but that is a >> whole other matter. > > MFC's do not go back through the whole history I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. > making source files compatible with updated > toolchains. Even something like llvm18 can have > where syntax is allowed corrected before llvm19, Got it. The compiler is picky and ever increasingly more picky with each passing year. So stuff from the past that slipped quietly under the radar is now being stomped on as bad stuff. > > In general things are set up to go forward in > small enough jumps, not to go backwards. > So it seems to me that all those branches of stuff named releng/X are going to be just chewing up bandwidth for some values of X. I guess a person could go hunt down that thing called "archive" and install a version of FreeBSD such as 12.2-RELEASE. Then that stuff would be able to build from source. Maybe. Most likely not worth the effort. > The MFC of the source correction to 13.* was made > to 13.3, not to 13.2. See: > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/contrib/tzcode/zic.c?h=releng/13.3&id=7ef70d24eee731375fe17a8ef1a30573338d9468 > Nice to know that the change can be found. Way more detail than I would ever need. The first thought that I had after the failure to build a jail was that something much be wrong in 15.0-CURRENT. Turns out that it was something slightly wrong in the code for 13.2-RELEASE. I was able to create the 13.2 jail neatly named 132amd64 and then I took a look at the branch names in ports. Since the 13.2-RELEASE seems to be supported somewhere in mid 2023 it made sense to use package names from a branch such as 2023Q3. That works neatly and I get 481 packages built with zero failures. pluto# uname -a FreeBSD pluto 13.2-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE-p11 GENERIC amd64 pluto# pkg query %n\ %v\ %o\ %R\ %a | grep '0$' bind-tools 9.18.19 dns/bind-tools titan 0 bind918 9.18.19 dns/bind918 titan 0 dmidecode 3.5 sysutils/dmidecode titan 0 groff 1.22.4_4 textproc/groff titan 0 iperf3 3.13 benchmarks/iperf3 titan 0 pkg 1.19.2 ports-mgmt/pkg titan 0 smartmontools 7.3_1 sysutils/smartmontools titan 0 tmux 3.3a_1 sysutils/tmux titan 0 pluto# Pretty nifty. The real trick is to upgrade the whole machine but I keep waving my hands at that. I figure 14.3-RELEASE is just days away: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/schedule/ So the full upgrade can happen somewhere in June if I can figure out how to deal with the massive zpool this thing is dragging around. There is at least sixteen years of backups of old Sun Solaris stuff as well as a ton of other projects. I am not yet ready to toss that into /dev/null. Thank you again for the great help. 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Zeeb" To: Dimitry Andric cc: "current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: (arm64) link_elf: symbol __floatundidf undefined ... In-Reply-To: <74650476-D42E-4074-A18F-D7F474EC271B@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <0r5n4p87-3pn0-3247-8n6q-n20qn0ro27r9@yvfgf.mnoonqbm.arg> <74650476-D42E-4074-A18F-D7F474EC271B@FreeBSD.org> X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5bbk02n0z3lCd X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:2003::/19, country:DE] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Mon, 26 May 2025, Dimitry Andric wrote: Hi, thanks for the quick answer. > On 26 May 2025, at 14:25, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> >> I've just compiled and installed a new arm64/main with my own kernel >> config to have wifi bits as modules. >> >> I am a bit puzzed as to where this comes from in the kernel. >> >> # kldload wlan >> link_elf: symbol __floatundidf undefined: 0xffff000143ed1370 0xffff000143ecf9f0 11496 0xffff000143ed26d8 0x2 >> kldload: can't load wlan: No such file or directory >> >> % nm modules/usr/src/sys/modules/wlan/wlan.ko.full | grep float >> U __floatundidf >> >> Anyone any idea? > > _Something_ is converting a unsigned long to a double, but what? Can you figure out which object file it is? % nm ieee80211_ioctl.o | grep __floatundidf U __floatundidf This may be a local change I have adding an extra 10% of space in the ioctl code to accomodate for enlargement of a result set for testing. size_t space; ... space *= 1.10; Given it's likely that it's that I think the real question is, why is this not an issue on amd64 but on arm64 as I've been running that change for days on amd64? -- Bjoern A. 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From: Dimitry Andric In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 15:15:27 +0200 Cc: "current@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0r5n4p87-3pn0-3247-8n6q-n20qn0ro27r9@yvfgf.mnoonqbm.arg> <74650476-D42E-4074-A18F-D7F474EC271B@FreeBSD.org> To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6.1.11) On 26 May 2025, at 15:05, Bjoern A. Zeeb = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 26 May 2025, Dimitry Andric wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > thanks for the quick answer. >=20 >> On 26 May 2025, at 14:25, Bjoern A. Zeeb = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I've just compiled and installed a new arm64/main with my own kernel >>> config to have wifi bits as modules. >>>=20 >>> I am a bit puzzed as to where this comes from in the kernel. >>>=20 >>> # kldload wlan >>> link_elf: symbol __floatundidf undefined: 0xffff000143ed1370 = 0xffff000143ecf9f0 11496 0xffff000143ed26d8 0x2 >>> kldload: can't load wlan: No such file or directory >>>=20 >>> % nm modules/usr/src/sys/modules/wlan/wlan.ko.full | grep float >>> U __floatundidf >>>=20 >>> Anyone any idea? >>=20 >> _Something_ is converting a unsigned long to a double, but what? Can = you figure out which object file it is? >=20 > % nm ieee80211_ioctl.o | grep __floatundidf > U __floatundidf >=20 > This may be a local change I have adding an extra 10% of space in the > ioctl code to accomodate for enlargement of a result set for testing. > size_t space; > ... > space *=3D 1.10; >=20 > Given it's likely that it's that I think the real question is, why is = this > not an issue on amd64 but on arm64 as I've been running that change = for > days on amd64? My guess is that it's inlined on amd64. For me simple cases also inline = on arm64, but maybe you are doing something more complicated: $ cat convert.c #include size_t f(size_t s) { return s * 1.10; } $ cc -target aarch64-freebsd -S convert.c -o - .text .file "convert.c" .section .rodata.cst8,"aM",@progbits,8 .p2align 3, 0x0 // -- Begin = function f .LCPI0_0: .xword 0x3ff199999999999a // double = 1.1000000000000001 .text .globl f .p2align 2 .type f,@function f: // @f .cfi_startproc // %bb.0: // %entry sub sp, sp, #16 .cfi_def_cfa_offset 16 str x0, [sp, #8] ldr d0, [sp, #8] ucvtf d0, d0 adrp x8, .LCPI0_0 ldr d1, [x8, :lo12:.LCPI0_0] fmul d0, d0, d1 fcvtzu x0, d0 add sp, sp, #16 .cfi_def_cfa_offset 0 ret .Lfunc_end0: .size f, .Lfunc_end0-f .cfi_endproc // -- End function .ident "FreeBSD clang version 19.1.7 = (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git = llvmorg-19.1.7-0-gcd708029e0b2)" .section ".note.GNU-stack","",@progbits .addrsig -Dimitry From nobody Mon May 26 13:14:16 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b5bqm57vMz5xl6r for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 13:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b5bqm2ftgz3sRx; Mon, 26 May 2025 13:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1748265364; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XB/LEhUNwN0kQi9z7oj2gBlUI+aA5XvdmNQU4GFzCIY=; b=VkHPWfoVMHqALVBrXHLQhJv4uXMxVsRGiKunAog3pFEJCh0VTCwkJoeI2eTLLW9fa/wtVF W9HfT8/PEQiCoe2LNunnAZ9dUmqm7yLfh31S75kRtD4IyzgCltj7NO+eK3MUm91BRNDj5y dzhJmwIo+FnyRgjHlifCirODPhplg4zbk2YjR9TZfVZEdtIEPCVBbw0pyM7rUFK7qtr16B xp4odVD5SrvJkwXvB6hcUnB6Fd3R9CH5M5ghZKZxs1AFBPQWLu+4ayGVhYJkPWxwygTo6H X2y64qrlWdIuICUaKceazuSjxBGV1N/j3FK6pntkJ6KGD89RJICCp6iQMOiJnA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1748265364; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XB/LEhUNwN0kQi9z7oj2gBlUI+aA5XvdmNQU4GFzCIY=; b=AHRvQ0CKXVBQPmdJ/IGW+rEE6rOu/USVLbQMx5NfEQplR09JzsN3upr7ua9xDxAYg4FNLH HUK+lRIovRurjxYnSvt6xSFwD8HYvQjqd3dVe/DTX0H/X/S+A9eQm3Ws8D4VxJK1a1Edjo eXohR4kShadAIZawlApTYW9QNFXg/Vk0dd9nLFQNv62x3M43IZ0xwm/h82uFgeVbw/vxx6 +aowFJrTmPArwn3J9dsXZv+nlTsxvULmbATF7uut443KTZg5NbMOnFAVKe3gXYbz5Hiz3c d27dWABeBk1NPjTVlCKlkhHKryon6yGpsLHDV4zRMJ58U6N8nPyId+kpdYW93Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1748265364; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=NJ6K4d6uPeHJpncJ2iP5pctt4aMYv95NUZ8FFUvV1Fz9vo2eNrKrkBURZvT9ZFdE/6O+F8 4K7bUbx1W6WtGaznpVsX2/RrFuFDnzgMkYdI7HKt4DgJaHxZgDmUOlwqWTtsnhQAulFjYg +paq3TygguvU61i5bRtaJ9AAWainpbyQFThF0OTAxqDK7vA1dX7Yln9BcYxarVjWPfmoi2 5LZRqmj94pgSDajB3C2lGMLQtMwbsfeRd4aIAMFRTeRS5nGZAgTq3c8aSr61ya/HGJTp0v asXXgy62BTn7UtLkzFhK2TWWCRyYSCNnhJ4CtwjIeDyGtEcTlUR4oKWK58lYsg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from mail.evolve.de (mail.evolve.de [213.239.217.29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: grembo/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4b5bql6tTrz10lS; Mon, 26 May 2025 13:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grembo@freebsd.org) Received: by mail.evolve.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 83d66ef1 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 26 May 2025 13:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 15:14:16 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin To: Dennis Clarke Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: With poudriere how does one create a jail of a slightly older RELEASE ? 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From: Dimitry Andric In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 15:24:32 +0200 Cc: "current@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0r5n4p87-3pn0-3247-8n6q-n20qn0ro27r9@yvfgf.mnoonqbm.arg> <74650476-D42E-4074-A18F-D7F474EC271B@FreeBSD.org> To: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6.1.11) On 26 May 2025, at 15:15, Dimitry Andric wrote: >=20 > On 26 May 2025, at 15:05, Bjoern A. Zeeb = wrote: >>=20 >> On Mon, 26 May 2025, Dimitry Andric wrote: >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> thanks for the quick answer. >>=20 >>> On 26 May 2025, at 14:25, Bjoern A. Zeeb = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I've just compiled and installed a new arm64/main with my own = kernel >>>> config to have wifi bits as modules. >>>>=20 >>>> I am a bit puzzed as to where this comes from in the kernel. >>>>=20 >>>> # kldload wlan >>>> link_elf: symbol __floatundidf undefined: 0xffff000143ed1370 = 0xffff000143ecf9f0 11496 0xffff000143ed26d8 0x2 >>>> kldload: can't load wlan: No such file or directory >>>>=20 >>>> % nm modules/usr/src/sys/modules/wlan/wlan.ko.full | grep float >>>> U __floatundidf >>>>=20 >>>> Anyone any idea? >>>=20 >>> _Something_ is converting a unsigned long to a double, but what? Can = you figure out which object file it is? >>=20 >> % nm ieee80211_ioctl.o | grep __floatundidf >> U __floatundidf >>=20 >> This may be a local change I have adding an extra 10% of space in the >> ioctl code to accomodate for enlargement of a result set for testing. >> size_t space; >> ... >> space *=3D 1.10; >>=20 >> Given it's likely that it's that I think the real question is, why is = this >> not an issue on amd64 but on arm64 as I've been running that change = for >> days on amd64? >=20 > My guess is that it's inlined on amd64. For me simple cases also = inline on arm64, but maybe you are doing something more complicated: >=20 > $ cat convert.c > #include >=20 > size_t f(size_t s) > { > return s * 1.10; > } >=20 > $ cc -target aarch64-freebsd -S convert.c -o - > .text > .file "convert.c" > .section .rodata.cst8,"aM",@progbits,8 > .p2align 3, 0x0 // -- Begin = function f > .LCPI0_0: > .xword 0x3ff199999999999a // double = 1.1000000000000001 > .text > .globl f > .p2align 2 > .type f,@function > f: // @f > .cfi_startproc > // %bb.0: // %entry > sub sp, sp, #16 > .cfi_def_cfa_offset 16 > str x0, [sp, #8] > ldr d0, [sp, #8] > ucvtf d0, d0 > adrp x8, .LCPI0_0 > ldr d1, [x8, :lo12:.LCPI0_0] > fmul d0, d0, d1 > fcvtzu x0, d0 > add sp, sp, #16 > .cfi_def_cfa_offset 0 > ret > .Lfunc_end0: > .size f, .Lfunc_end0-f > .cfi_endproc > // -- End function > .ident "FreeBSD clang version 19.1.7 = (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project.git = llvmorg-19.1.7-0-gcd708029e0b2)" > .section ".note.GNU-stack","",@progbits > .addrsig Aha, the behavior changes when you use -mgeneral-regs-only (as in = https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/sys/conf/kern.mk#n140): f: // @f .cfi_startproc // %bb.0: // %entry stp x29, x30, [sp, #-16]! // 16-byte Folded Spill .cfi_def_cfa_offset 16 mov x29, sp .cfi_def_cfa w29, 16 .cfi_offset w30, -8 .cfi_offset w29, -16 bl __floatundidf mov x1, #-7378697629483820647 // =3D0x9999999999999999 movk x1, #39322 movk x1, #16369, lsl #48 bl __muldf3 bl __fixunsdfdi .cfi_def_cfa wsp, 16 ldp x29, x30, [sp], #16 // 16-byte Folded Reload .cfi_def_cfa_offset 0 .cfi_restore w30 .cfi_restore w29 ret Hence, try to refrain from using doubles. :) Your use case should also = be covered with: space =3D (space * 110 + 50) / 100 -Dimitry From nobody Mon May 26 14:14:12 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b5d6y5Kklz5xnq8 for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 14:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mail.oetec.com (mail.oetec.com [108.160.241.186]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.oetec.com", Issuer "E5" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b5d6x6y9Vz3Lgt for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 14:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=blastwave.org header.s=default header.b=CnmYtPCb; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dclarke@blastwave.org designates 108.160.241.186 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dclarke@blastwave.org; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=blastwave.org Received: from [172.16.35.3] (pool-99-253-118-250.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.253.118.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.oetec.com (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 54QEECa5061723 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 10:14:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blastwave.org; s=default; t=1748268854; bh=8cjwgi3LYBaJ4lxX+qg8O4fwWHSOY5bZcdiJPhijsN4=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=CnmYtPCbhJEENrzOx6Up2Vhwqsp4ZS6C4v1TIkFz0Q6/vUSE3c/A4CVdnA8gLhOI8 TgSQYovAaXKKGpySs7rHfplY1odpy55Z3zF6bQHE8PqWBR/wFbQvyRASlV+ZmDkYfW qjFw4E+h0q4kWD6F9ENa+A3DYx51yNBdrX4Fdv2Wxi3GCRzO9p2Nc9+KWxCkI187fM KmiRV3hVHCWAvKL8BX4ubD8yKZxs953fnIBf5NGk/ui5LEY2+DDGVq4gIrHy9+mtPA S7OELvZTbBhn4W2XUJxjDYMVJLiuD/6CtjIhGlLI3AdBRPBJcRwwHBXKa/wlXTBG+d kQrqdtzHZM9Aw== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 10:14:12 -0400 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: With poudriere how does one create a jail of a slightly older RELEASE ? Content-Language: en-CA To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> From: Dennis Clarke Organization: GENUNIX In-Reply-To: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 54QEECa5061723 X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5d6x6y9Vz3Lgt X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.13 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.993]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.84)[0.835]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[108.160.241.186:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. >> > > Merge From Current = Merging or back-porting a base commit from CURRENT > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > -m > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. 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To: Dennis Clarke Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5dcM3yb3z3YfW X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 8:14=E2=80=AFAM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. > >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. > >> > > > > Merge From Current =3D Merging or back-porting a base commit from CURRE= NT > > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > > > -m > > > > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the > last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ and now > there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ which I have not ever seen once in > five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something > can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ Yes. We have our own Jargon that has evolved over the years. Many of the terms are used so frequently we forget that people new to the project might not understand them. > Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. > There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens > in a thing called a Phabricator. Well, it's even more complicated than that... We have Bugzilla to get bug reports, which sometimes have patches. Historically, these patches have bee= n neglected, in no small part because many of our developers have a hard time saying 'no' especially to something that's ambiguously incorrect or that touches a complicated-to-fix area of the tree. Next up is Phabricator, which developers use to review changes, but sometimes non-developers use it, but we have had a hard time managing that process, so changes often get lost. Third, we have github pull requests now that I've been trying to establish as a better-managed place to go to contribute. > It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a > server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and > everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a > few things running. To quote a really cool guy that is an expert at such > things "If it breaks you can keep both pieces." We also do try to document everything in the FreeBSD handbook, but sometimes it's a bit out of date because there's been lots of change and innovation over the years. 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Well why not and yes I will give that a whirl. >>>>=20 >>>> Still doesn't clear up why I can not build from source but that is = a >>>> whole other matter. >>>=20 >>> MFC's do not go back through the whole history >>=20 >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. >> . . . >=20 > The original change happened on CURRENT > after 13.3 was branched. The 13.3 commit > description for: >=20 > = https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/7ef70d24eee731375fe17a8ef1a3= 0573338d9468 >=20 > says: >=20 > QUOTE > Update tzcode to 2023c. >=20 > MFC after: 3 weeks > Sponsored by: Klara, Inc. > Reviewed by: philip > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D39712 >=20 > (cherry picked from commit 75411d1) > END QUOTE >=20 > The "cherry picked from commit 75411d1" indicates the > description and changes are from another commit > elsewhere. 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Content-Language: en-CA To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <547892F5-EF12-46F4-AFCA-2D6BDEE19427@yahoo.com> From: Dennis Clarke Organization: GENUNIX In-Reply-To: <547892F5-EF12-46F4-AFCA-2D6BDEE19427@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 54QFGBk1063422 X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5fVS6qQlz3w7J X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.13 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.991]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.931]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.77)[0.767]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[108.160.241.186:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] On 5/26/25 10:48, Mark Millard wrote: > [I managed to not send the original to the list.] > > On May 26, 2025, at 07:14, Mark Millard wrote: >> >> Dennis Clarke wrote on >> Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 12:25:50 UTC : >> >>> On 5/24/25 21:47, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> Dennis Clarke wrote on >>>> Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 22:46:18 UTC : >>>> >>>>> wow ... archive ? Well why not and yes I will give that a whirl. >>>>> >>>>> Still doesn't clear up why I can not build from source but that is a >>>>> whole other matter. >>>> >>>> MFC's do not go back through the whole history >>> >>> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. >>> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. >>> . . . >> >> The original change happened on CURRENT >> after 13.3 was branched. The 13.3 commit >> description for: >> >> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/7ef70d24eee731375fe17a8ef1a30573338d9468 >> I think I have learned more in the last week from this maillist than from five or seven years of hacking about. All over the place. 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Message-Id: <20250527011714.7a525ae96279376ab4dad580@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.2) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5gsC0t88z3CWN X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:36:05 -0600 Warner Losh wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 8:14 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > > > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. > > >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. > > >> > > > > > > Merge From Current = Merging or back-porting a base commit from CURRENT > > > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. > > > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > > > > > -m > > > > > > > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the > > last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ and now > > there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ which I have not ever seen once in > > five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something > > can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ > > Yes. We have our own Jargon that has evolved over the years. Many > of the terms are used so frequently we forget that people new to the > project might not understand them. Something like MFC but a different term, MFS (Merge From Stable) is used, too. Means mostly like MFC, but from stable branch like stable/14 to release engineering (releng) branch like releng/14.2. In most cases, the changes are the same as MFC, so the term MFC is used. But MFC to stable branch made some modifications, term MFS should be used instead to clarify the fact (not always, unfortunately). > > Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. > > There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens > > in a thing called a Phabricator. > > Well, it's even more complicated than that... We have Bugzilla to get bug > reports, which sometimes have patches. Historically, these patches have been > neglected, in no small part because many of our developers have a hard > time saying 'no' especially to something that's ambiguously incorrect or > that touches a complicated-to-fix area of the tree. Next up is Phabricator, > which developers use to review changes, but sometimes non-developers > use it, but we have had a hard time managing that process, so changes often > get lost. Third, we have github pull requests now that I've been trying to > establish as a better-managed place to go to contribute. Bugzilla would be best for non-developers, as it does not require patch to file bugs. The downside I see is that there's no assistances for commenting specific part of the patch (if exist) that is uncertain or need fix. For example, Bug 286705. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=286705 Phablicator is the opposite. It (AFAIK) requires codes (patches|diffs) to review on reporting. But reviewers and/or aubscribers can comment directly to specific part of codes/diffs, allowing precise discussions about proposed changes/additions. For example, I basically use Bugzilla when I don't have patch to review (or having patch to upgrade like Bug 287021). https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287021 Once I can create patch, I recently open a review for it like Differentioal revision D50487. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50487 And if the patch is intended NOT to affect users (infrastructial changes only), I simply open review without filing Bug to Bugzilla like D50142. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50142 And an example of a review with comments to the patch itself. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49982 Currently GitHub pull request is no-go for me, as its accounts are NOT managed neither by FreeBSD project and/or FreeBSD foundation. If creating github.freebsd.org that its accounts are managed by FreeBSD project and/or FreeBSD foundation, I'll be happy to register. > > It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a > > server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and > > everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a > > few things running. To quote a really cool guy that is an expert at such > > things "If it breaks you can keep both pieces." > > We also do try to document everything in the FreeBSD handbook, but > sometimes it's a bit out of date because there's been lots of change and > innovation over the years. > > Warner -- Tomoaki AOKI From nobody Mon May 26 16:25:57 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b5h2x3jSnz5wFlY for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from omta003.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b5h2w4N67z3Hmt for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 16:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com designates 3.97.99.32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com; dmarc=permerror reason="p tag has invalid value: quarantine rua=mailto:p[ostmaster@cschubert.com" header.from=cschubert.com (policy=permerror) Received: from shw-obgw-4001a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.142]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id JVcvuQAPS9JM2JaeFuvJHH; Mon, 26 May 2025 16:25:59 +0000 Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.66.136.217]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id JaeEuW57iQwcXJaeFuHTv0; Mon, 26 May 2025 16:25:59 +0000 X-Auth-User: cschuber X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=DaW0qetW c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=68349617 a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:117 a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dt9VzEwgFbYA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=sG3xqljTOv9nFSRMEoEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33A2F8 for ; Mon, 26 May 2025 09:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slippy.cwsent.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 97D6C318; Mon, 26 May 2025 09:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.8+dev Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: mountd(8) Hangs List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 09:25:57 -0700 Message-Id: <20250526162557.97D6C318@slippy.cwsent.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfISdRMcyFKgm0Zh6jJ6sF7ILN0/ouXI2MqyBATwJ+47SnFqqFnEB+oGlxUvLhzfy8nztrFT2ruUxzuMJjBXVCYDn63MWvEPZv7shLbFyJZsrE/yzvOUq A1I70NT4mC2M7hQrS/q7vBXjugpD01kRvqGXqF9deQw/TlbhS/r10miPIHmpc9sWQT665xR9GbcfZ2mgLpKt2SzfHXO4X0k6Rys= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5h2w4N67z3Hmt X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.56 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.46)[0.464]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:3.97.99.32/31]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[3.97.99.32:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:3.96.0.0/15, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_BAD_POLICY(0.00)[cschubert.com : p tag has invalid value: quarantine rua=mailto:p[ostmaster@cschubert.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[] I've noticed over the past month or so mountd(8) hanging on an NFS server here when the NFS server is running poudriere. This only occurs when poudriere is building multiple little ports resulting in many mounts and unmounts due to jails being constituted and torn down. After a while mountd(8) ends up in a deadlocked state causing poudriere to seize. The workaround is to stop mountd before or immediately following initiation of poudriere. This used to be a problem without the -S flag but now suspend/resume of nfsd threads doesn't mitigate the problem either. 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In-Reply-To: <20250527011714.7a525ae96279376ab4dad580@dec.sakura.ne.jp> References: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> <20250527011714.7a525ae96279376ab4dad580@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Message-ID: <858a28779b1f95124f8b7bf2f11968ac@riseup.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5rm16dMlz3JqQ X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On 2025-05-27 00:17, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:36:05 -0600 > Warner Losh wrote: > >> On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 8:14 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: >> > >> > On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 >> > > Dennis Clarke wrote: >> > > >> > >> > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. >> > >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. >> > >> >> > > >> > > Merge From Current = Merging or back-porting a base commit from CURRENT >> > > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. >> > > >> > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current >> > > >> > > -m >> > > >> > >> > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the >> > last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ and now >> > there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ which I have not ever seen once in >> > five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something >> > can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ >> >> Yes. We have our own Jargon that has evolved over the years. Many >> of the terms are used so frequently we forget that people new to the >> project might not understand them. > > Something like MFC but a different term, MFS (Merge From Stable) is > used, too. Means mostly like MFC, but from stable branch like stable/14 > to release engineering (releng) branch like releng/14.2. > In most cases, the changes are the same as MFC, so the term MFC is used. > But MFC to stable branch made some modifications, term MFS should be > used instead to clarify the fact (not always, unfortunately). > > >> > Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. >> > There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens >> > in a thing called a Phabricator. >> >> Well, it's even more complicated than that... We have Bugzilla to get bug >> reports, which sometimes have patches. Historically, these patches have been >> neglected, in no small part because many of our developers have a hard >> time saying 'no' especially to something that's ambiguously incorrect or >> that touches a complicated-to-fix area of the tree. Next up is Phabricator, >> which developers use to review changes, but sometimes non-developers >> use it, but we have had a hard time managing that process, so changes often >> get lost. Third, we have github pull requests now that I've been trying to >> establish as a better-managed place to go to contribute. > > Bugzilla would be best for non-developers, as it does not require > patch to file bugs. The downside I see is that there's no assistances > for commenting specific part of the patch (if exist) that is uncertain > or need fix. For example, Bug 286705. > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=286705 > > Phablicator is the opposite. It (AFAIK) requires codes (patches|diffs) > to review on reporting. But reviewers and/or aubscribers can comment > directly to specific part of codes/diffs, allowing precise discussions > about proposed changes/additions. > > For example, I basically use Bugzilla when I don't have patch > to review (or having patch to upgrade like Bug 287021). > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287021 > > Once I can create patch, I recently open a review for it > like Differentioal revision D50487. > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50487 > > And if the patch is intended NOT to affect users (infrastructial > changes only), I simply open review without filing Bug to Bugzilla > like D50142. > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50142 > > And an example of a review with comments to the patch itself. > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D49982 > > > Currently GitHub pull request is no-go for me, as its accounts are NOT > managed neither by FreeBSD project and/or FreeBSD foundation. GitHub is another Walled Garden. You need an account to read code on it's platform, and they are terrible at providing access to new subscribers. I am on my second account, and none of my up upstream Issues are appearing. A migration to Github will be a direct attack on those who take a principled position against surveillance platforms, and corporate mono-cultures. > If creating github.freebsd.org that its accounts are managed by > FreeBSD project and/or FreeBSD foundation, I'll be happy to register. The great thing about Bugzilla, and Phabricator, one does not need to grasp the git branching dance, and can instead produce git-formatted-patches from a git worktree for submission. This is a lot closer to patches via email, a wonderful process that is losing favor these days. >> > It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a >> > server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and >> > everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a >> > few things running. 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To: Warner Losh Cc: Dennis Clarke , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5v5T5syyz3XtB X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 7:36=E2=80=AFAM Warner Losh wrote: > > On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 8:14=E2=80=AFAM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > > > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. > > >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. > > >> > > > > > > Merge From Current =3D Merging or back-porting a base commit from CUR= RENT > > > (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version branch. > > > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > > > > > -m > > > > > > > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the > > last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ and now > > there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ which I have not ever seen once in > > five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something > > can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ > > Yes. We have our own Jargon that has evolved over the years. Many > of the terms are used so frequently we forget that people new to the > project might not understand them. > > > Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. > > There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens > > in a thing called a Phabricator. > > Well, it's even more complicated than that... We have Bugzilla to get bu= g > reports, which sometimes have patches. Historically, these patches have b= een > neglected, in no small part because many of our developers have a hard > time saying 'no' especially to something that's ambiguously incorrect or > that touches a complicated-to-fix area of the tree. Next up is Phabricato= r, > which developers use to review changes, but sometimes non-developers > use it, but we have had a hard time managing that process, so changes oft= en > get lost. Third, we have github pull requests now that I've been trying t= o > establish as a better-managed place to go to contribute. I will mention that you forgot the mailing lists. If you post something to freebsd-current@ most of the developers see it. Bugzilla is ok for reporting bugs, but not so good when it comes to having a discussion about it. Same goes for phabricator. And, yes, I am not a fan of github, but do suffer through it for things like OpenZFS and Linux kernel patches. But I'm old school (and old;-), rick > > > It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a > > server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and > > everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a > > few things running. 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This only occurs when > poudriere is building multiple little ports resulting in many mounts and > unmounts due to jails being constituted and torn down. After a while > mountd(8) ends up in a deadlocked state causing poudriere to seize. I cannot think why poudriere would care about mountd being hung? > The > workaround is to stop mountd before or immediately following initiation o= f > poudriere. Well, there is code in mountd.c that prevents it from reloading exports too often. RELOADDELAY is set to 0.25sec. However, this code has not changed in a long time, so unless clock_gettime() has somehow changed, I cannot see why it would have stopped working? The commits during the last month or so for mountd.c are pretty benign, but you could try reverting one or two of them. (One moves some of the code into libutil, but I cannot think why that might matter?) The only commit I did (on May 1) was 68daa78, which just adds one additiona= l check to the exports processing. You can easily revert this one to see if i= t makes any difference? 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[github related notes] Message-Id: <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 19:09:03 -0700 To: agh@riseup.net, FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.600.51.1.1) References: <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F.ref@yahoo.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5wzy1lvyz3gH8 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.51 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.978]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.963]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.68.206:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.68.206:from]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] Alastair Hogge wrote on Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 22:58:38 UTC : > . . . > > GitHub is another Walled Garden. You need an account to read code on > it's platform, I'm right now using an old iPad with FireFox looking at the recent upstream error about fopen("tmp/pkg_add_cache","w") still being in use in recent pkg-devel update. I did not log into my github account to do this. (Line 1177 of pkg_add.c .) The "Sign in" button still says that. For reference, I navigated to what ended up being: github.com/freebsd/pkg/blob/main/libpkg/pkg_add.c This is in the USA, in case that matters. May be you mean something more specific, but, as far as I can tell, your claim above is just false here. > and they are terrible at providing access to new > subscribers. I've never had troubles that would lead me to such a statement --or much of any note. (I do have an account --and have had it for a long time, so, likely not matching your specification of "new subscribers" at this point. 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[github related notes] In-Reply-To: <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F@yahoo.com> References: <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F.ref@yahoo.com> <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F@yahoo.com> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <09694438790f112db98b6eae19b195c9@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_57b51df8183c5169014f0a9d31dec29e" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b5yDh2PQQz4MB6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- --=_57b51df8183c5169014f0a9d31dec29e Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2025-05-26 19:09, Mark Millard wrote: > Alastair Hogge wrote on > Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 22:58:38 UTC : > >> . . . >> >> GitHub is another Walled Garden. You need an account to read code on >> it's platform, > > I'm right now using an old iPad with FireFox looking at the > recent upstream error about fopen("tmp/pkg_add_cache","w") > still being in use in recent pkg-devel update. I did not > log into my github account to do this. (Line 1177 of > pkg_add.c .) The "Sign in" button still says that. > > For reference, I navigated to what ended up > being: > > github.com/freebsd/pkg/blob/main/libpkg/pkg_add.c > > This is in the USA, in case that matters. > > May be you mean something more specific, but, as far as I > can tell, your claim above is just false here. > >> and they are terrible at providing access to new >> subscribers. > > I've never had troubles that would lead me to such > a statement --or much of any note. (I do have an > account --and have had it for a long time, so, > likely not matching your specification of "new > subscribers" at this point. I'm not going to create > another account to check a better matching context.) > >> I am on my second account, and none of my up upstream >> Issues are appearing. . . . >> . . . > > I've never had troubles with my issue submittals on > github, including the one today about the bug > referenced above. (Not that I submit such very often.) > The submittal shows up just fine (#2450). FWIW I *have* had trouble(s) in this area and as a result lost my account. This was 2 years ago and the problem (from GitHubs standpoint) not one that they were able to understand or resolve. 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Message-ID: <20250527103220.1662f029.grembo@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20250526151416.68ff7c09.grembo@freebsd.org> X-Face: $wrgCtfdVw_H9WAY?S&9+/F"!41z'L$uo*WzT8miX?kZ~W~Lr5W7v?j0Sde\mwB&/ypo^}> +a'4xMc^^KroE~+v^&^#[B">soBo1y6(TW6#UZiC]o>C6`ej+i Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWJBwe5BQDl LASZU0/LTEWEfHbyj0Txi32+sKrp1Mv944X8/fm1rS+cAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAAL EwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH3wESCxwC7OBhbgAAACFpVFh0Q29tbWVudAAAAAAAQ3Jl YXRlZCB3aXRoIFRoZSBHSU1QbbCXAAAAAghJREFUOMu11DFvEzEUAGCfEhBVFzuq AKkLd0O6VrIQsLXVSZXoWE5N1K3DobBBA9fQpRWc8OkWouaIjedWKiyREOKs+3PY fvalCNjgLVHeF7/3bMtBzV8C/VsQ8tecEgCcDgrzjekwKZ7TwsJZd/ywEKwwP+ZM 8P3drTsAwWn2mpWuDDuYiK1bFs6De0KUUFw0tWxm+D4AIhuuvZqtyWYeO7jQ4Aea 7jUqI+ixhQoHex4WshEvSXdood7stlv4oSuFOC4tqGcr0NjEqXgV4mMJO38nld4+ xKNxRDon7khyKVqY7YR4d+Cg0OMrkWXZOM7YDkEfKiilCn1qYv4mighZiynuHHOA Wq9QJq+BIES7lMFUtcikMnkDGHUoncA+uHgrP0ctIEqfwLHzeSo+eUA66AqzwN6n 2ZHJhw6Qh/PoyC/QENyEyC/AyNjq74Bs+3UH0xYwzDUC4B97HgLocg1QLYgDDO1v f3UX9Y307Ew4AHh67YAFFsxEpkXwpXY3eIgMhAAE3R19L919nNnuD2wlPcDE3UeT L2ytEICQib9BXgS2fU8PrD82ToYO1OEmMSnYTjSqSv9wdC0tPYC+rQRQD9ESnldF CyqfmiYW+tlALt8gH2xrMdC/youbjzPXEun+/ReXsMCDyve3dZc09fn2Oas8oXGc Jj6/fOeK5UmSMPmf/jL+GD8BEj0k/Fn6IO4AAAAASUVORK5CYII= List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 26 May 2025 10:14:12 -0400 Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 5/26/25 09:14, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:25:50 -0400 > > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > > >> I have no idea what "MFC" is supposed to mean. > >> I guess it is a code change that happened somewhere. > >> > > > > Merge From Current = Merging or back-porting a base commit from > > CURRENT (main/base/HEAD) to another, usually lower, FreeBSD version > > branch. > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Glossary#MFC_--_Merge_From_Current > > > > -m > > > Thank you for providing detailed feedback on your experience, it's valuable (at least to me). > So many places with special terms and stuff buried somewhere. In the > last week or so I have discovered https://archive.freebsd.org/ To be fair, this is linked on FreeBSD.org within two clicks: 1. Big "Download FreeBSD" Button 2. Archives: "Get Past Releases" at the bottom of the page. I found it by using a search engine though ("where to download old freebsd releases"). > and now > there is https://wiki.freebsd.org/ The Wiki is linked from the "Developers" menu on FreeBSD.org. This is hardly needed by users, I simply linked to it out of convenience (as this was what I found in a quick search when trying to help you). The FreeBSD Handbook also contains a glossary (That's on FreeBSD.org: Documentation -> Handbook -> Enter "glossary" at the search box): https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/glossary/#mfc-glossary Alternatively, one can use a search engine "what does mfc mean in the context of freebsd", in my case the first three hits were useful (including the Wikipedia page on FreeBSD). I myself didn't know what MFC really means for at least the first decade of using FreeBSD ^_^ > which I have not ever seen once in > five or six years of trying to use FreeBSD. Maybe a link or something > can be put on the "About" page? https://www.freebsd.org/about/ I agree, having one page where all these resources not just listed, but also explained would be helpful. Like "How to Contribute" or "Important Project Resources". All resources should link back to that page to ease navigation. > > Even more crazy is the way in which FreeBSD is changed and/or fixed. > There are bug reports of course but it seems everything really happens > in a thing called a Phabricator. Phabricator - or to be more precise, its Differential component - is used for code review (it used to be a very famous tool and lives on as Phorge.it). Often reviews are linked to bugs though. > > It really is a great UNIX implementation and runs like a charm as a > server but the skills required are all over the place and no where and > everywhere and yeah ... thanks to this mail list I can at least keep a > few things running. To quote a really cool guy that is an expert at > such things "If it breaks you can keep both pieces." The mailing list is a great place for getting help, but it's also a good idea to consult man pages, the FreeBSD handbook, and other publicly available resources. 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[github related notes] In-Reply-To: <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F@yahoo.com> References: <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F.ref@yahoo.com> <2177B8F6-D8B9-4FFE-BB29-D3A83B935C6F@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b66Dr72Fvz3G8q X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On 2025-05-27 10:09, Mark Millard wrote: > Alastair Hogge wrote on > Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 22:58:38 UTC : > >> . . . >> >> GitHub is another Walled Garden. You need an account to read code on >> it's platform, > > I'm right now using an old iPad with FireFox looking at the > recent upstream error about fopen("tmp/pkg_add_cache","w") > still being in use in recent pkg-devel update. I did not > log into my github account to do this. (Line 1177 of > pkg_add.c .) The "Sign in" button still says that. > > For reference, I navigated to what ended up > being: > > github.com/freebsd/pkg/blob/main/libpkg/pkg_add.c > > This is in the USA, in case that matters. > > May be you mean something more specific, but, as far as I > can tell, your claim above is just false here. If I point Firefox at https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Amamedev%2Fmame%20freebsd&type=issues, on the left side of the site, under "Filter by", there is the following options: Code Issues Pull requests Discussions Commits Packages Wikis To the right of "Code" will be "...", the remaining items in the list, will have a hit count to the right. Clicking on "Code" takes on to a "Sign in to search code on GitHub" landing page, this is what I meant, sorry for the confusion. A super handy feature, locked behind their Wall. >> and they are terrible at providing access to new >> subscribers. > > I've never had troubles that would lead me to such > a statement --or much of any note. (I do have an > account --and have had it for a long time, so, > likely not matching your specification of "new > subscribers" at this point. I'm not going to create > another account to check a better matching context.) > >> I am on my second account, and none of my up upstream >> Issues are appearing. . . . >> . . . > > I've never had troubles with my issue submittals on > github, including the one today about the bug > referenced above. 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I was curious and looking around FreeBSD's RADIUS implement= ation and noticed what appears to be a lack of RADSEC (RADIUS over TLS) in t= he OS's source code. Granted, there IS a port named "radsecproxy" that allow= s users to make use of it, but my personal thinking/opinion is that if using= RADIUS as a NAS (Network Access Server) is available natively through pam_r= adius then perhaps if we want a "security by default" approach we should add= radsec to libradius and open up native use of RADSEC. Additionally, there's= an IETF draft in the works deprecating the use of UDP or TLS-less UDP (http= s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-radext-deprecating-radius/), which m= ay or may not add some importance to something like this. Thus, I come here asking, do y'all think it would be worth it or a good idea= for me to work on adding in TLS support for RADIUS, or am I best off lettin= g the port that already exists for it use it? Thanks, Andrew= --Apple-Mail-34DC8331-3196-4D10-9CF0-AC63332C3870 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

Apologies if this is th= e wrong place to go, I don't really have any contributing experience. I was c= urious and looking around FreeBSD's RADIUS implementation and noticed what a= ppears to be a lack of RADSEC (RADIUS over TLS) in the OS's source code. Gra= nted, there IS a port named "radsecproxy" that allows users to make use of i= t, but my personal thinking/opinion is that if using RADIUS as a NAS (Networ= k Access Server) is available natively through pam_radius then perhaps if we= want a "security by default" approach we should add radsec to libradius and= open up native use of RADSEC. Additionally, there's an IETF draft in the wo= rks deprecating the use of UDP or TLS-less UDP (https://datatracker.i= etf.org/doc/draft-ietf-radext-deprecating-radius/), which may or may not= add some importance to something like this.

Thus, I= come here asking, do y'all think it would be worth it or a good idea for me= to work on adding in TLS support for RADIUS, or am I best off letting the p= ort that already exists for it use it?

Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: May 2025 stabilization week Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 08:29:36AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T> On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 01:00:20AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T> T> This is an automated email to inform you that the May 2025 stabilization week T> T> started with FreeBSD/main at main-n277447-9ce5410b9094, which was tagged as T> T> main-stabweek-2025-May. T> T> Due to automatically chosen 9ce5410b9094 not being able to compile a kernel T> without VIMAGE and also due to quick reversion of 9ce5410b9094, we are shifting T> the main-stabweek-2025-May to u 3ea0fa86f6a4. The A/B testing at Netflix didn't find any stability or performance regressions with 3ea0fa86f6a4 compared to April stabweek snapshot. My personal experience with desktop, laptop and a home router also didn't discover any regressions. One sidenote: the EFI boot loader needs to be brought up to date, otherwise on some machines with EFI bootcode from 2023 the console font is huge. 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Zeeb" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: rockchip_dwmmc1 panic (MMCCAM) Message-ID: X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.95 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.957]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[zabbadoz.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zabbadoz.net:s=20240622]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2003:a:140a:2200:6:594:fffe:19:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:2003::/19, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zabbadoz.net:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b6Mpv50Fjz3bwS X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hi, again MCCAM kernel just a few lines after the LOR... ... sdda1: MMCHC A3A551 1.2 SN 05F20AD1 MFG 01/2006 by 214 0x0003 GEOM: new disk sdda1 GEOM: new disk sdda1boot0 GEOM: new disk sdda1boot1 Kernel page fault with the following non-sleepable locks held: exclusive sleep mutex rockchip_dwmmc1 (dwmmc) r = 0 (0xffffa000015fa128) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/mmc/host/dwmmc.c:383 stack backtrace: #0 0xffff000000537520 at witness_debugger+0x60 #1 0xffff000000538754 at witness_warn+0x408 #2 0xffff0000008316b8 at data_abort+0xb0 #3 0xffff000000806018 at handle_el1h_sync+0x18 x0: 0x0000000000008080 x1: 0xffff0000879e8000 (end + 0x868f5000) x2: 0x0000000000000040 x3: 0x000000000000017f x4: 0x0000000000000000 x5: 0xffff00008a3087d0 (end + 0x892157d0) x6: 0x0000000000000000 x7: 0x4547007263736564 x8: 0x0000000000000004 x9: 0xffff000000ce6bd0 (memmap_bus + 0x0) x10: 0x0000000001030000 x11: 0xffff0000010278f8 (w_locklistdata + 0x41830) x12: 0xffffffffffffffff x13: 0x0000000000000001 x14: 0x00000000000000af x15: 0x0000000000002af8 x16: 0x00000000000000af x17: 0x0000000000000000 x18: 0xffff00008a3088e0 (end + 0x892158e0) x19: 0xffffa000015fa000 x20: 0x0000000000008080 x21: 0x0000000000000000 x22: 0xffff000000d4b718 (Giant + 0x18) x23: 0xffff000000a48bc1 (nm_dump_buf.hex + 0xafcb) x24: 0xffff000000d49000 (sdt_vfs_vop_vop_spare2_entry + 0x18) x25: 0xffffa000012dda10 x26: 0xffffa000010d9100 x27: 0xffffa000012dda00 x28: 0x0000000000000000 x29: 0xffff00008a3088e0 (end + 0x892158e0) sp: 0xffff00008a3088e0 lr: 0xffff000000203ddc (dwmmc_intr + 0x50) elr: 0xffff000000203e08 (dwmmc_intr + 0x7c) spsr: 0x0000000000000005 far: 0x0000000000000020 esr: 0x0000000096000044 panic: data abort in critical section or under mutex cpuid = 0 time = 1 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self() at db_trace_self db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x38 vpanic() at vpanic+0x1a0 panic() at panic+0x48 data_abort() at data_abort+0x3d4 handle_el1h_sync() at handle_el1h_sync+0x18 --- exception, esr 0x96000044 dwmmc_intr() at dwmmc_intr+0x7c ithread_loop() at ithread_loop+0x29c fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x78 fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x18 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 12 tid 100052 ] -- Bjoern A. 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Zeeb" To: Andrew Wood cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Implementing RADSEC In-Reply-To: <9F26B64E-126D-49E2-8E56-D3CE3C946072@gmail.com> Message-ID: <03o36766-85q7-s58q-362o-910p561o24so@yvfgf.mnoonqbm.arg> References: <9F26B64E-126D-49E2-8E56-D3CE3C946072@gmail.com> X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:2003::/19, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b6Qzx68BDz49kY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Tue, 27 May 2025, Andrew Wood wrote: > Hi all, > > Apologies if this is the wrong place to go, I don't really have any contributing experience. I was curious and looking around FreeBSD's RADIUS implementation and noticed what appears to be a lack of RADSEC (RADIUS over TLS) in the OS's source code. Granted, there IS a port named "radsecproxy" that allows users to make use of it, but my personal thinking/opinion is that if using RADIUS as a NAS (Network Access Server) is available natively through pam_radius then perhaps if we want a "security by default" approach we should add radsec to libradius and open up native use of RADSEC. Additionally, there's an IETF draft in the works deprecating the use of UDP or TLS-less UDP (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-radext-deprecating-radius/), which may or may not add some importance to something like this. > > Thus, I come here asking, do y'all think it would be worth it or a good idea for me to work on adding in TLS support for RADIUS, or am I best off letting the port that already exists for it use it? Maybe ask on net@ There may be more folks intereted in the topic. There (is|was) other software in ports like Radiator or freeradius which will do both and proxying is part of all of it. Deprecating RADIUS/UDP will take longer than getting rid of IPv4 if anyone asks me ;-) What but pam is using libradius in base? ppp and hostapd? But hostapd has it's own, so it's pam and ppp. Counting days of their use... I guess. /bz -- Bjoern A. 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This makes me think of the /usr/ports/MOVED construction. Maybe something similar can be useful for base pkgs. Cheers, Ronald ------=_Part_1338_892379391.1748414263171 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Van: Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org>
Datum: 28 mei 2025 03:19
Aan: pkgbase@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Onderwerp: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade

hello,

if you use 15.0 with pkgbase, there are two recent changes which might
require manual intervention following "pkg upgrade":

7672d8d81ac1 moved ctld into the new FreeBSD-ctl package.  if you use
ctld, you should install this package.

cc8c77c9e036 moved toolchain utilities (including ar, nm, ...) into the
new FreeBSD-toolchain package.  if you need to build software, you
should install the new package

cc8c77c9e036 also removed the existing FreeBSD-elftoolchain package.
this should be automatically replaced by the new FreeBSD-toolchain if it
was installed, but you may want to make sure it's properly removed:

    # pkg remove -g 'FreeBSD-elftoolchain*'



Nice work. 
This makes me think of the /usr/ports/MOVED construction. Maybe something similar can be useful for base pkgs.

Cheers,
Ronald
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Maybe > something similar can be useful for base pkgs. ideally this isn't something we want to be doing on an ongoing basis. at the moment there are a number of files that are installed in the wrong package by accident (usually in -utilities, because that's the default package) or that are deliberately installed in -utilities but would be better in their own package. i'm trying to fix all of these prior to the 15.0 release so that people who install a release version don't have to deal with this. if we want to do something like this again after 15.0-RELEASE then we will need to come up with a better solution. we could also do with some sort of metapackage / package groups system, so you can easily install a workload like "development tools" and also get new packages for that workload when you upgrade... i believe the pkg(8) people are working on something like this, or at least would like to work on it if they have time :-) --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaDbehgAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YNp7AP4vA9dxrva2/tTq+8FuIIPEXEnriF5N5YQ/e01NFPO1WwEAzNi3qUkQj73Y 6/a/6TVACxaOpUXUO8p8p08zFrJeuwg= =aHEv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi-- From nobody Wed May 28 12:29:37 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b6pjG1qfXz5xRKZ for ; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 28 mai 2025 08:37:43 GMT+02:00, Ronald Klop a = =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >Van: Lexi Winter >Datum: 28 mei 2025 03:19 >Aan: pkgbase@freebsd=2Eorg, current@freebsd=2Eorg >Onderwerp: HEADS UP: 15=2E0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade > >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> hello, >>=20 >> if you use 15=2E0 with pkgbase, there are two recent changes which migh= t >> require manual intervention following "pkg upgrade": >>=20 >> 7672d8d81ac1 moved ctld into the new FreeBSD-ctl package=2E if you use >> ctld, you should install this package=2E >>=20 >> cc8c77c9e036 moved toolchain utilities (including ar, nm, =2E=2E=2E) in= to the >> new FreeBSD-toolchain package=2E if you need to build software, you >> should install the new package >>=20 >> cc8c77c9e036 also removed the existing FreeBSD-elftoolchain package=2E >> this should be automatically replaced by the new FreeBSD-toolchain if i= t >> was installed, but you may want to make sure it's properly removed: >>=20 >> # pkg remove -g 'FreeBSD-elftoolchain*' >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > > >Nice work=2E This makes me think of the /usr/ports/MOVED construction=2E = Maybe something similar can be useful for base pkgs=2E > this should be a pkg message ! it can be constraint to versions and upgrag= es only best regards, Bapt From nobody Wed May 28 16:42:59 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b6wKv0m3bz5x00Q for ; 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Zeeb" To: usb@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Is any code using LinuxKPI USB? Message-ID: <3r088246-07r5-q2s2-8149-270n240q3r61@SerrOFQ.bet> X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a year old work in progress which breaks the decade-ish old LinuxKPI USB support. I am trying to find out if there is anything actually (stil) using this code? If you know of any program/code which relies on LinuxKPI USB then please let me know ASAP. Thanks and lots of health, Bjoern -- Bjoern A. 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D285044 --- Comment #11 from Warner Losh --- I think that the fix looks good, I'll push it in. But I worry that we'll af= fect the UEFI loader. I'm guessing we won't affect graphical because it does different things to still look good, which is why I'm going to push this in= and see if anybody complains. 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D285044 --- Comment #13 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch main references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D9486d6d57d14844972ee63382045e2ed7= a300963 commit 9486d6d57d14844972ee63382045e2ed7a300963 Author: Marek Zarychta AuthorDate: 2025-05-29 16:36:57 +0000 Commit: Warner Losh CommitDate: 2025-05-29 18:37:03 +0000 loader: Fix beastie and fbsdbw logo positions Fix the beaste, beastiebw and fbsdbw postions broken after ee233742a569 PR: 285044, 286356 Fixes: 1b4e11713153 Reviewed by: imp MFC After: 2 days (14.3 candiate) Sponsored by: PANS Jaros=C5=82aw stand/lua/gfx-beastie.lua | 1 + stand/lua/gfx-beastiebw.lua | 1 + stand/lua/gfx-fbsdbw.lua | 2 +- 3 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu May 29 19:01:03 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b7bLS0x6Zz5xNBc for ; 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D285044 Warner Losh changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Open |Closed Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #14 from Warner Losh --- Closing. I know I tagged it as MFC after 3 days and a 14.3 candidate, but t= he hashes it fixes were never merged. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Thu May 29 20:06:22 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b7cns2rn8z5xRT8 for ; Thu, 29 May 2025 20:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b7cnr5V4qz3QpX for ; Thu, 29 May 2025 20:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none ("invalid DKIM record") header.d=troutmask.apl.washington.edu header.s=troutmask header.b=OcZHxhTD; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF" header.from=washington.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.95.76.21) smtp.mailfrom=sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 54TK6MQj004701 for ; Thu, 29 May 2025 13:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 troutmask.apl.washington.edu 54TK6MQj004701 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=troutmask.apl.washington.edu; s=troutmask; t=1748549183; bh=K51Imdj317dh9NpRBwG0crHpOFnQF//UQABzVsQj9Ac=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Reply-To:From; b=OcZHxhTD77CnlX8f+rW/5vTqF/8XkpzmkdWnCLKPuZ60/06RQcZsrkuNJxSyCQjZR KohPdDE106SDts9A224GXQcfyPtaHPem62OkfpHprS/z6Ss3ZMpS8bD8ACbbh7tYV/ Srx+prTaM52VnegmOsTAYwH3Icd7UqYl8BbYUSLOZxrXlo9NymFIe6Xq5rXbHy4YRt uhF3uiC4+46cfZS7f1WdBa5fIyLc5I8lxBeuM/VcPH1+64EWxtnMsIt3WrnQeMY7ez u/SpaHovKjGrm/xaKeEMUVkiK+xLWO4CGOwmbKntMJH1aKEhttvBYKUuLgFJD3gIOz aDwFO6vwidlOQ== Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 54TK6MD4004700 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2025 13:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 13:06:22 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: drm panic after new world Message-ID: Reply-To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.25 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.997]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.35)[-0.349]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[128.95.76.21:from]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.19)[-0.195]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[washington.edu : No valid SPF,none]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_TO_DOM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[troutmask.apl.washington.edu:~]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:73, ipnet:128.95.0.0/16, country:US]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[troutmask.apl.washington.edu:s=troutmask]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b7cnr5V4qz3QpX X-Spamd-Bar: / After rebuilding world and installing, I rebuilt the drm-515 port and the accompanying gpu-firmware. This port has worked upto this update. Upon running xinit to load Xorg, I am greeted with the panic following my .sig (text extracted from /var/crash/core.txt.1). As a side note, 'pkg delete -f drm-515' followed by building and install /usr/ports/graphics/drm-mod selects the drm-66-kmod port. The ends up in a endless loop of reboots when loading the radeonkms.ko module. -- steve panic: pfs_add_node(): homonymous siblings Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//boot/kernel/cpuctl.ko.debug... __curthread () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/include/pcpu_aux.h:57 57 __asm("movq %%gs:%c1,%0" : "=r" (td) (kgdb) #0 __curthread () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/include/pcpu_aux.h:57 td = #1 doadump (textdump=textdump@entry=1) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:404 error = 0 coredump = #2 0xffffffff80673100 in kern_reboot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:524 once = 0 __pc = 0x0 #3 0xffffffff80673637 in vpanic ( fmt=0xffffffff80a5b332 "%s(): homonymous siblings", ap=ap@entry=0xfffffe00d836e8f0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:979 buf = "pfs_add_node(): homonymous siblings", '\000' __pc = 0x0 __pc = 0x0 __pc = 0x0 other_cpus = {__bits = {253, 0 }} td = 0xfffff8000d7b3740 bootopt = newpanic = #4 0xffffffff80673463 in panic (fmt=) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:892 ap = {{gp_offset = 16, fp_offset = 48, overflow_arg_area = 0xfffffe00d836e920, reg_save_area = 0xfffffe00d836e8c0}} #5 0xffffffff805c8718 in pfs_add_node ( parent=parent@entry=0xfffff80003955400, pn=pn@entry=0xfffff803557e0900) at /usr/src/sys/fs/pseudofs/pseudofs.c:123 iter = #6 0xffffffff805c8bd2 in pfs_create_file (parent=0xfffff80003955400, name=name@entry=0xffffffff82b293f4 "radeon_ring_gfx", fill=0xffffffff82bf70f0 , attr=0xffffffff82bf72f0 , vis=vis@entry=0x0, destroy=0xffffffff82bf7310 , flags=33) at /usr/src/sys/fs/pseudofs/pseudofs.c:266 pn = 0xfffff803557e0900 #7 0xffffffff82bf70b8 in debugfs_create_file ( name=0xffffffff82b293f4 "radeon_ring_gfx", mode=292, parent=0xfffff8000398e400, data=0xfffffe012354dd30, fops=0xffffffff82b55918 ) at /usr/src/sys/compat/lindebugfs/lindebugfs.c:209 dm = 0xfffff80003990580 dnode = 0xfffff80003990580 pnode = flags = _size = _malloc_item = #8 0xffffffff82ad0084 in radeon_ring_init () from /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko No symbol table info available. #9 0xffffffff82a5caf7 in evergreen_startup () from /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko No symbol table info available. #10 0xffffffff82a5b333 in evergreen_resume () from /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko No symbol table info available. #11 0xffffffff82ab3e90 in radeon_gpu_reset () from /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko No symbol table info available. #12 0xffffffff82abee98 in radeon_gem_wait_idle_ioctl () from /boot/modules/radeonkms.ko No symbol table info available. #13 0xffffffff82ba9f16 in drm_ioctl_kernel () from /boot/modules/drm.ko No symbol table info available. #14 0xffffffff82baa28d in drm_ioctl () from /boot/modules/drm.ko No symbol table info available. #15 0xffffffff808b98e1 in linux_file_ioctl_sub (filp=0xfffffe012354dd30, fop=, data=, fp=, cmd=, td=) at /usr/src/sys/compat/linuxkpi/common/src/linux_compat.c:953 task = 0xfffff800066f9f18 size = 524288 error = __td = __fpop = __retval = __fpop = __retval = __fpop = __retval = #16 linux_file_ioctl (fp=, fp@entry=, cmd=, cmd@entry=, data=, data@entry=, cred=, td=, td@entry=) at /usr/src/sys/compat/linuxkpi/common/src/linux_compat.c:1629 error = 0 filp = 0xfffffe012354dd30 fop = ldev = 0xfffffe012354c000 p = i = fgn = #17 0xffffffff806e442e in fo_ioctl (fp=0xfffff8000d6d8320, com=2148033636, data=, active_cred=, td=0xfffff8000d7b3740) at /usr/src/sys/sys/file.h:376 No locals. #18 kern_ioctl (td=td@entry=0xfffff8000d7b3740, fd=, com=com@entry=2148033636, data=, data@entry=0xfffffe00d836ed60 "r") at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:806 tmp = 0 fdp = 0xfffffe011f4da000 locked = 0 fp = 0xfffff8000d6d8320 error = #19 0xffffffff806e41ef in sys_ioctl (td=0xfffff8000d7b3740, uap=0xfffff8000d7b3b40) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:714 smalldata = "r", '\000' , "Rn@\002\000\000\000\300\001", '\000' , "\004", '\000' arg = 114 com = 2148033636 size = 8 data = 0xfffffe00d836ed60 "r" error = #20 0xffffffff80a0123b in syscallenter (td=0xfffff8000d7b3740) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/../../kern/subr_syscall.c:191 se = 0xffffffff80e61270 p = 0xfffffe00c5a09020 sa = 0xfffff8000d7b3b30 error = traced = sy_thr_static = #21 amd64_syscall (td=0xfffff8000d7b3740, traced=0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:1215 ksi = {ksi_link = {tqe_next = 0xfffffe00d836eed0, tqe_prev = 0xffffffff8067d428 }, ksi_info = { si_signo = 53714432, si_errno = -2048, si_code = -667488640, si_pid = -512, si_uid = 3627478640, si_status = -512, si_addr = 0x246, si_value = {sival_int = 75558912, sival_ptr = 0xfffff8000480f000, sigval_int = 75558912, sigval_ptr = 0xfffff8000480f000}, _reason = {_fault = { _trapno = 582}, _timer = {_timerid = 582, _overrun = 0}, _mesgq = {_mqd = 582}, _poll = {_band = 582}, _capsicum = { _syscall = 582}, __spare__ = {__spare1__ = 582, __spare2__ = { -667488560, -512, -2140845675, -1, 1080972400, 2, -2137175316}}}}, ksi_flags = 1080970816, ksi_sigq = 0xffffffff80e00020 } #22 No locals. #23 0x000000024b80bc1a in ?? () No symbol table info available. Backtrace stopped: Cannot access memory at address 0x2406e5448 From nobody Thu May 29 20:46:11 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b7dgq4qnvz5xTSW for ; Thu, 29 May 2025 20:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b7dgn61m5z3vjq for ; Thu, 29 May 2025 20:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none ("invalid DKIM record") header.d=troutmask.apl.washington.edu header.s=troutmask header.b=jsOHlC19; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF" header.from=washington.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.95.76.21) smtp.mailfrom=sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 54TKkBUa001879 for ; Thu, 29 May 2025 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 troutmask.apl.washington.edu 54TKkBUa001879 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=troutmask.apl.washington.edu; s=troutmask; t=1748551571; bh=VZezZxUZeisqwVzZdjpu6M9PXbKImT7ZxN41pvQqlDM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Reply-To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=jsOHlC195izOQfk8PFNGNV5TgRF81zhquvj7cLtK8gkjdSNyGGdBnOfZTYO4tZXJX OiETKMoeNq3+iAfQzXMTI+VWpAkGBZ8AWGChB0+MvtNbKN8tHeRN4HY+gjL7rQ+D7V OWGTOSwWWF9NFzMrSmxaKNVLuI2Mpgsd5lDDmrWT4eWr2/vxSAfFbLuWfur50iuR70 22SF0ev2ZOJ0k9WQZLlwio4XzUi3iZisMwdrQsUTNReHAn0pmPhG1OoymBG5AnaIBe sWYsDqF+qtsBJejP0T7MhqK/jXo+Rl1FJCBpYtmsb8vmn5A1e5L6f6PtAXuD20oGln H9q0S3wvWQRlg== Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 54TKkBrA001878 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 May 2025 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Thu, 29 May 2025 13:46:11 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: drm panic after new world Message-ID: Reply-To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.95 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.994]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.970]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.816]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[128.95.76.21:from]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[washington.edu : No valid SPF,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[troutmask.apl.washington.edu:s=troutmask]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_TO_DOM(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[troutmask.apl.washington.edu:~]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:73, ipnet:128.95.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b7dgn61m5z3vjq X-Spamd-Bar: / On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 01:06:22PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > After rebuilding world and installing, I rebuilt the drm-515 > port and the accompanying gpu-firmware. This port has worked > upto this update. Upon running xinit to load Xorg, I am > greeted with the panic following my .sig (text extracted from > /var/crash/core.txt.1). > > As a side note, 'pkg delete -f drm-515' followed by > building and install /usr/ports/graphics/drm-mod > selects the drm-66-kmod port. The ends up in a endless > loop of reboots when loading the radeonkms.ko module. > Addendum: drm-61-kmod also ends up in a reboot loop when attempting to radeonkkms.ko. 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How does one get kernel debugging symbols into radeonkms.ko? -- Steve From nobody Fri May 30 07:36:39 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b7sVg32fqz5x52f for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 05:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "E6" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b7sVf2qBxz3nCK for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 05:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail202005 header.b=HLqZjUgB; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 09:36:39 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail202005; t=1748590599; bh=JOYR7h4RD61xX7TUySgVqVMzJVU35zpE5zwUJLlL/wA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HLqZjUgBLx5t4vMUlWe5yUO8GupL8oCM2Q/xYI8vOFH3v7aqt8qfR0M0dAkpNsTDS /xUV62Jc4GUP0fgYLMsVUbtwqwnRxmr5tXY7r0kt/KsIn2chMlco26OPeM+UK9MA93 xBMOcjCiU5xv9ImBJHMSUY+Hhq/JlJjJItx3BAyINtN8MRv+KFILwS8GyB7YLvE0rl wL1sPXJiKjUGo8JFZ3Lf+fY0xKYSB0LKTQ2SyRsXlgS5Vu7ShMqY2Kc8hLqV566bwS ysdefD9DVhDUsNk6xyed/9DO98JNDaogzARNW6TY4/oR10LnN60ptC9mmBO0c5MhyM Al2VrnfWPNVtA== From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? Message-ID: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.82 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.942]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.61)[0.610]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b7sVf2qBxz3nCK X-Spamd-Bar: / Hi, building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. Arm64 seems to be OK. -- Herbert From nobody Fri May 30 13:28:37 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b81Hr3zRRz5xX7j for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 11:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [94.130.200.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "E6" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b81Hq4DNzz3kQt for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 11:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gojira.at header.s=mail202005 header.b="wwLGOmi/"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of herbert@gojira.at designates 94.130.200.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=herbert@gojira.at Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 15:28:37 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail202005; t=1748611717; bh=/R4X4Uq529MPjh3m+gkVNd13NQ6qnLDdsQMIV2TQSbk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wwLGOmi/9aPQcrtWQ2yq+P+jI4YCfIDNqDSGTKQ3uTrMdVMsfIsfRGCViOVA11blu iMhKh4vy6lxcge/VDRpbNUB2Miq/pAUODhIJR2FHq0Om90vmJpQ+p3BwC30hhvmryk bEFNapQfj8IHBh5ADUMXL+7Y4tvvjYhL/hn6aTTKRR7ZZxkgQ69d2wk1G897fq0Tui +RyDjmxis+ODS3z3gIDr/ZfZz+MFhgP6nUdKLSLk1qhcd3m9F3fUIVb/xcRbIsdjNl Whe0FFz6D6pcu45g39Wdw51F2LvTaCUDyQn56Zisf1GuN+HReOf3C1UZca1bR2TYRb wagnb6OUucf3Q== From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.03 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.974]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.43)[0.431]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:94.130.200.20]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:94.130.0.0/16, country:DE]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b81Hq4DNzz3kQt X-Spamd-Bar: - On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Hi, > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > Arm64 seems to be OK. Git bisect says: 68ba38dad388b566877ba79ff02ed12a53b0ff3f is the first bad commit From nobody Fri May 30 11:32:27 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b81Lf5ttzz5xY3g for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 11:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b81Lf1HpNz3myS for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 11:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 54UBWSf3080766; Fri, 30 May 2025 14:32:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 54UBWSf3080766 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 54UBWROI080765; Fri, 30 May 2025 14:32:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 14:32:27 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2yG9GE7w0J8YuOly" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b81Lf1HpNz3myS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- --2yG9GE7w0J8YuOly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Hi, > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > Arm64 seems to be OK. I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to rebuild at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd64-only. --2yG9GE7w0J8YuOly Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=1.patch diff --git a/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c b/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c index 2ae7cf0cd7b2..84bbd36ed28d 100644 --- a/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c +++ b/lib/libthr/thread/thr_create.c @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ _pthread_create(pthread_t * __restrict thread, param.tls_size = sizeof(struct tcb); param.child_tid = &new_thread->tid; param.parent_tid = &new_thread->tid; - param.flags = 0; + param.flags = THR_C_RUNTIME; if (new_thread->attr.flags & PTHREAD_SCOPE_SYSTEM) param.flags |= THR_SYSTEM_SCOPE; if (new_thread->attr.sched_inherit == PTHREAD_INHERIT_SCHED) diff --git a/sys/amd64/amd64/vm_machdep.c b/sys/amd64/amd64/vm_machdep.c index 4001f40554af..c763ff58680e 100644 --- a/sys/amd64/amd64/vm_machdep.c +++ b/sys/amd64/amd64/vm_machdep.c @@ -60,6 +60,7 @@ #include #include #include +#include #include #include #include @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ copy_thread(struct thread *td1, struct thread *td2) MPASS((pcb2->pcb_flags & (PCB_KERNFPU | PCB_KERNFPU_THR)) == 0); bcopy(get_pcb_user_save_td(td1), get_pcb_user_save_pcb(pcb2), cpu_max_ext_state_size); + clear_pcb_flags(pcb2, PCB_TLSBASE); } td2->td_frame = (struct trapframe *)td2->td_md.md_stack_base - 1; @@ -655,7 +657,7 @@ cpu_set_upcall(struct thread *td, void (*entry)(void *), void *arg, } int -cpu_set_user_tls(struct thread *td, void *tls_base) +cpu_set_user_tls(struct thread *td, void *tls_base, int thr_flags) { struct pcb *pcb; @@ -663,7 +665,8 @@ cpu_set_user_tls(struct thread *td, void *tls_base) return (EINVAL); pcb = td->td_pcb; - set_pcb_flags(pcb, PCB_FULL_IRET | PCB_TLSBASE); + set_pcb_flags(pcb, PCB_FULL_IRET | ((thr_flags & + THR_C_RUNTIME) != 0 ? PCB_TLSBASE : 0)); #ifdef COMPAT_FREEBSD32 if (SV_PROC_FLAG(td->td_proc, SV_ILP32)) { pcb->pcb_gsbase = (register_t)tls_base; diff --git a/sys/kern/kern_thr.c b/sys/kern/kern_thr.c index 0ab4cb5f7970..afd016ec9e75 100644 --- a/sys/kern/kern_thr.c +++ b/sys/kern/kern_thr.c @@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ thr_new_initthr(struct thread *td, void *thunk) if (error != 0) return (error); /* Setup user TLS address and TLS pointer register. */ - return (cpu_set_user_tls(td, param->tls_base)); + return (cpu_set_user_tls(td, param->tls_base, param->flags)); } int diff --git a/sys/sys/proc.h b/sys/sys/proc.h index eb0b66618a9d..fcacfec4442b 100644 --- a/sys/sys/proc.h +++ b/sys/sys/proc.h @@ -1236,7 +1236,7 @@ int cpu_procctl(struct thread *td, int idtype, id_t id, int com, void cpu_set_syscall_retval(struct thread *, int); int cpu_set_upcall(struct thread *, void (*)(void *), void *, stack_t *); -int cpu_set_user_tls(struct thread *, void *tls_base); +int cpu_set_user_tls(struct thread *, void *tls_base, int flags); 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It turns out that is pretty easy with a wrapper shell script. apply the patch from https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50534 $ chmod 755 ./tools/build/time-buildworld* build the world $ make buildworld > buildworld.log The generated CSV has ca. 2800 lines $ ./tools/build/time-buildworld-csv.awk buildworld.log > buildworld.csv output example: https://people.freebsd.org/~wosch/build-time/buildworld/buildworld.csv https://people.freebsd.org/~wosch/build-time/buildworld/buildworld.log.gz The statistics will be generated as CSV, because this is a very simple format and runs on a base system without ports installed. Comments are welcome, Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider https://wolfram.schneider.org From nobody Fri May 30 14:14:44 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b84xr2J6nz5xk6p for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 14:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [94.130.200.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "E6" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b84xq5HCbz3KXh for ; Fri, 30 May 2025 14:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:44 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail202005; t=1748621682; bh=qaHW26hkuwtnnhXynr7Q6epx/HE2tTjoVnJbgfEltAM=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gid4ovvZqqCQFLKCKimnfBe15DxOb7p/d/UW7piOPaljVY0T00VNEPczv/eFhttkH FArTWgU/aMJlYvSb8pqTdAcnK4KGtzd7zn32SE5jNY268GBWDN/cYwYi7RvUba9Vxi oxy/ensDkmZOv2dpYGtFvutykC1KeSPWaGwvzghVplzd7IYRVA1YWLOQrAjqpKeP3h EFnzOKUFweHXup6HfVNcLZxYb/AQjaRvbcvX/Aa9W64GV1U5p4GCvRdOr37bGPopqW KQ7bO3cf4DuVRx6hcShZcutUDk9IxsG2th4Rd/gpNcPCCfLjjHV1qi3ByOHVXO4DMo cE7T8geyQUPgw== Message-ID: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/30.1 Mule/6.0 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:94.130.0.0/16, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b84xq5HCbz3KXh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to rebuild > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd64-only. Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. 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Message-ID: References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b8CKl0Xg7z3Pll X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 04:14:44PM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to rebuild > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd64-only. > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the patch as well? From nobody Sat May 31 06:38:13 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b8Vmq02gjz5xYN9 for ; Sat, 31 May 2025 06:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "E6" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b8Vmp2Q1Kz3xlf for ; Sat, 31 May 2025 06:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 08:38:13 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gojira.at; s=mail202005; t=1748680400; bh=87PQYTs2JiAAup2kUCu8gfWLm4XbZHsCMw0Nw5VzNi8=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ODzouDqreJKvibiQ5i+uN9b+La0oJtnyjw2yQ386+m1/rwKlhzjfGiMEK0+V4H27H 6rkJkoIMQbQUxhvcPh5v1Hz0B+K/M/dgCcVV53I8KZvWoBCSDhnWm/qeChIsGbx/YN 7xcpLE/YNIdyxVu1SJ4HNxNEWV1gwBt2hm2DbraiEe7WJ6wkSKPGnpg4btcBkf7N+V pzyE737naSytfrpvg6tDnKrdKpoNh6ZwI+ZWQAyFDulJJz19aftXFp8PhjFB5gRb0a SszH3puTqus2G7CNoEjX+g8kTgTWD0t185qttHl6XVUWydeeEp0TIJPTg0505CQpnD kBMygfR5cvJ8g== Message-ID: <87jz5xs2sq.wl-herbert@gojira.at> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? In-Reply-To: References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/30.1 Mule/6.0 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b8Vmp2Q1Kz3xlf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE] On Fri, 30 May 2025 21:02:25 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 04:14:44PM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main > > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to rebuild > > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd64-only. > > > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. > > Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the patch > as well? Sorry, not that I am aware of. 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Yesterday's buildworld/installworld made the system unable to run today's installworld. --- installworld --- make[1]: /export/obj/opt/src/git-src/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: Using cached toolchain metadata from build at stinky on Sat May 31 20:16:05 PDT 2025 --- __installcheck_UGID --- --- __installcheck_sh_check --- Bad system call (core dumped) rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted make[1]: stopped making "installworld" in /opt/src/git-src make: stopped making "installworld installkernel" in /opt/src/git-src The go problem is likely related to this. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0 From nobody Sun Jun 1 04:21:35 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b93hf69KCz5y1f8 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b93hf2yzTz3HxW for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 5514LZio043723; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 07:21:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 5514LZio043723 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 5514LZQS043722; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 07:21:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 07:21:35 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Cy Schubert Cc: "Herbert J. 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Message-ID: References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b93hf2yzTz3HxW X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 09:11:15PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message , Konstantin Belousov writes: > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 04:14:44PM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on main > > > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to rebu > > ild > > > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd64 > > -only. > > > > > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. > > > > Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the patch > > as well? > > > > It's a bad system call. Yesterday's buildworld/installworld made the system > unable to run today's installworld. > > --- installworld --- > make[1]: /export/obj/opt/src/git-src/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: > Using cached toolchain metadata from build at stinky on Sat May 31 20:16:05 > PDT 2025 > --- __installcheck_UGID --- > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > Bad system call (core dumped) > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > > make[1]: stopped making "installworld" in /opt/src/git-src > > make: stopped making "installworld installkernel" in /opt/src/git-src You installed world on the old kernel. The UPDATING way of update must be followed to letter with the exterr feature. > > The go problem is likely related to this. No it is not. 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Skuhra" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? In-reply-to: <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> Comments: In-reply-to Cy Schubert message dated "Sat, 31 May 2025 21:11:15 -0700." 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Skuhra wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on mai > n > > > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to re > bu > > ild > > > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd > 64 > > -only. > > > > > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. > > > > Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the patch > > as well? > > > > It's a bad system call. Yesterday's buildworld/installworld made the system > unable to run today's installworld. > > --- installworld --- > make[1]: /export/obj/opt/src/git-src/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: > Using cached toolchain metadata from build at stinky on Sat May 31 20:16:05 > PDT 2025 > --- __installcheck_UGID --- > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > Bad system call (core dumped) > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > > make[1]: stopped making "installworld" in /opt/src/git-src > > make: stopped making "installworld installkernel" in /opt/src/git-src > > The go problem is likely related to this. The resolution is: git pull the latest 15-CURRENT. Buildkernel and installkernel. Then buildworld and installworld. Remember to rebuild drm-66-kmod or it will panic. Any Go software will build correctly. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0 From nobody Sun Jun 1 05:06:58 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b94hj2061z5x4Y3 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from omta003.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b94hj1CvLz3xlH for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from shw-obgw-4002a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.250]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id LJEEuYkt79JM2LauSuGWXq; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:07:00 +0000 Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.66.136.217]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id LauRupPLvl5eGLauSu9koz; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 05:07:00 +0000 X-Auth-User: cschuber X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=EO6l0EZC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=683bdff4 a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:117 a=h7br+8Ma+Xn9xscxy5znUg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dt9VzEwgFbYA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=3e1IelBXhFS-CiCZtrgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AD9A1; Sat, 31 May 2025 22:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slippy.cwsent.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0295E2A; Sat, 31 May 2025 22:06:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.8+dev Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Konstantin Belousov cc: Cy Schubert , "Herbert J. Skuhra" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? In-reply-to: References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> Comments: In-reply-to Konstantin Belousov message dated "Sun, 01 Jun 2025 07:21:35 +0300." 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Skuhra wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on m > ain > > > > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > > > > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to > rebu > > > ild > > > > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is a > md64 > > > -only. > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. > > > > > > Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the pat > ch > > > as well? > > > > > > > It's a bad system call. Yesterday's buildworld/installworld made the system > > > unable to run today's installworld. > > > > --- installworld --- > > make[1]: /export/obj/opt/src/git-src/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: > > Using cached toolchain metadata from build at stinky on Sat May 31 20:16:05 > > > PDT 2025 > > --- __installcheck_UGID --- > > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > > Bad system call (core dumped) > > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > > > > make[1]: stopped making "installworld" in /opt/src/git-src > > > > make: stopped making "installworld installkernel" in /opt/src/git-src > You installed world on the old kernel. > The UPDATING way of update must be followed to letter with the exterr feature > . > > > > > The go problem is likely related to this. > No it is not. Well, I just built and installed the latest kernel and world. The above problem is fixed and so is the Go problem. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0 From nobody Sun Jun 1 06:06:32 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b961f1npXz5x8Ny for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 06:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b961d5SjLz3Q26 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2025 06:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by kib.kiev.ua (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 55166XrB073361; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 09:06:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 55166XrB073361 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 55166WlU073352; Sun, 1 Jun 2025 09:06:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 09:06:32 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Cy Schubert Cc: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? Message-ID: References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> <20250601050516.BED6410D@slippy.cwsent.com> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250601050516.BED6410D@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b961d5SjLz3Q26 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 10:05:16PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert writes: > > In message , Konstantin Belousov writes: > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 04:14:44PM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on mai > > n > > > > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > > > > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need to re > > bu > > > ild > > > > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is amd > > 64 > > > -only. > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again. > > > > > > Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the patch > > > as well? > > > > > > > It's a bad system call. Yesterday's buildworld/installworld made the system > > unable to run today's installworld. > > > > --- installworld --- > > make[1]: /export/obj/opt/src/git-src/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: > > Using cached toolchain metadata from build at stinky on Sat May 31 20:16:05 > > PDT 2025 > > --- __installcheck_UGID --- > > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > > Bad system call (core dumped) > > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > > > > make[1]: stopped making "installworld" in /opt/src/git-src > > > > make: stopped making "installworld installkernel" in /opt/src/git-src > > > > The go problem is likely related to this. > > The resolution is: > > git pull the latest 15-CURRENT. Buildkernel and installkernel. Then > buildworld and installworld. Remember to rebuild drm-66-kmod or it will > panic. Any Go software will build correctly. In fact, I am not completely sure about Go. Pure Go binaries should work. The interesting case is cgo binaries, which start libpthread threads. I am interested if they work, and if no, I have some ugly trick to apply. 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Skuhra" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building lang/go* and go ports broken on main (amd64)? In-reply-to: References: <87jz5y2njf.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <20250601041116.0A5642A9@slippy.cwsent.com> <20250601050516.BED6410D@slippy.cwsent.com> Comments: In-reply-to Konstantin Belousov message dated "Sun, 01 Jun 2025 09:06:32 +0300." 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Skuhra wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 30 May 2025 13:32:27 +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 09:36:39AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > building lang/go (e.g. 1.24) and go ports (e.g. aerc, netbird) on > mai > > > n > > > > > > > (amd64) fails with: fatal: bad g in signal handler. > > > > > > > Arm64 seems to be OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > I might have a guess. Try the following untested patch, you need t > o re > > > bu > > > > ild > > > > > > at least kernel, but ideally both kernel and userspace. Also it is > amd > > > 64 > > > > -only. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot! With your patch I could build go 1.24 and netbird again > . > > > > > > > > Is there any go code that uses cgo, and which you could test with the p > atch > > > > as well? > > > > > > > > > > It's a bad system call. Yesterday's buildworld/installworld made the syst > em > > > unable to run today's installworld. > > > > > > --- installworld --- > > > make[1]: /export/obj/opt/src/git-src/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: > > > > Using cached toolchain metadata from build at stinky on Sat May 31 20:16: > 05 > > > PDT 2025 > > > --- __installcheck_UGID --- > > > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > > > Bad system call (core dumped) > > > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > > > > > > make[1]: stopped making "installworld" in /opt/src/git-src > > > > > > make: stopped making "installworld installkernel" in /opt/src/git-src > > > > > > The go problem is likely related to this. > > > > The resolution is: > > > > git pull the latest 15-CURRENT. Buildkernel and installkernel. Then > > buildworld and installworld. Remember to rebuild drm-66-kmod or it will > > panic. Any Go software will build correctly. > > In fact, I am not completely sure about Go. > Pure Go binaries should work. > > The interesting case is cgo binaries, which start libpthread threads. > I am interested if they work, and if no, I have some ugly trick to apply. My thinking at the time was that the problem might have been related to the syscall table. But looking at the commits, I'm not convinced of that now. 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The build happends on 14.2-RELEASE and the tree is shared of NFS. The error I get is make[1]: warning: /storage/freebsd/src/current/: Read-only file system. make[1]: /build/storage/freebsd/src/current/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: Using cached toolchain metadata from build at bastion.ttyv0.de on Sun Jun 1 09:08:28 CEST 2025 Bad system call (core dumped) rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted --- __installcheck_sh_check --- dmesg shows pid 2146 (rescue), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) pid 2264 (rescue), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) Yesterday everything was fine. 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Skuhra" To: Gordon Bergling Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Failed make installworld on a recent -CURRENT Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b9ByW3Gwwz3s17 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE] On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 11:45:38AM +0200, Gordon Bergling wrote: > Hi, > > I am getting a strange error, when trying to update a recent -CURRENT. > The build happends on 14.2-RELEASE and the tree is shared of NFS. > The error I get is > > make[1]: warning: /storage/freebsd/src/current/: Read-only file system. > make[1]: /build/storage/freebsd/src/current/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metadata.mk:1: Using cached toolchain metadata from build at bastion.ttyv0.de on Sun Jun 1 09:08:28 CEST 2025 > Bad system call (core dumped) > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > > dmesg shows > pid 2146 (rescue), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) > pid 2264 (rescue), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) > > Yesterday everything was fine. 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Skuhra" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Failed make installworld on a recent -CURRENT Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0K2SX3Py9Y38gpKy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Url: X-Operating-System: Darwin 24.5.0 arm64 X-Host-Uptime: 13:31 up 11 days, 19:51, 3 users, load averages: 20.23 12.38 7.05 --0K2SX3Py9Y38gpKy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Herbert, On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 11:49:15AM +0200, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 11:45:38AM +0200, Gordon Bergling wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > I am getting a strange error, when trying to update a recent -CURRENT. > > The build happends on 14.2-RELEASE and the tree is shared of NFS. > > The error I get is > >=20 > > make[1]: warning: /storage/freebsd/src/current/: Read-only file system. > > make[1]: /build/storage/freebsd/src/current/amd64.amd64/toolchain-metad= ata.mk:1: Using cached toolchain metadata from build at bastion.ttyv0.de on= Sun Jun 1 09:08:28 CEST 2025 > > Bad system call (core dumped) > > rescue/sh check failed, installation aborted > > --- __installcheck_sh_check --- > >=20 > > dmesg shows > > pid 2146 (rescue), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) > > pid 2264 (rescue), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 12 (core dumped) > >=20 > > Yesterday everything was fine. Has anyone an idea what could cause this? >=20 > 1. make installkernel > 2. reboot > 3. make installworld=20 I rearranged my scripts and everything is working again. Haven't seen such an error in over two years, but the steps in that order are functional. Thanks --Gordon --0K2SX3Py9Y38gpKy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEYbWI0KY5X7yH/Fy4OQX2V8rP09wFAmg8Op4ACgkQOQX2V8rP 09yRbAf+M28RtMMDg5waffYKBblqLyRN5XeqzOXZ7+99+ECvpNX9639iED3x8jow C8fxwvBTpoBcTO3BctZVcd3yZXBCpQdAt5huV7CD5TUrio7kOwc4Q6YF8ArSvjQL KAJez8VynuBdrwJjoxyxv0Aj/FUNB0NjC2i+yv2uoKSvNLpXRXvoaDw8E5phmGWH +hHxcp2L50GRxKl8lE2EjTLi/2IxESSx30ZxaCY08Ys75Bns26MAU3AReG0H8/50 2yPwbh+MWKb6tr40zEzGfOSX7AdqXxt4pS82BD741QgjBNwJO7cUk5yERuzjiIjC dfsbtLlt0du8HNF5SRJyS6WsXqMlzw== =ulRv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0K2SX3Py9Y38gpKy--