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FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b134:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVQsz1K79z465v --00000000000022ee1c063f59f950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of this errors: acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22) At the same time, postfix stopped working, so possibly related. Mailing gets the error: Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/qmgr[78810]: fatal: initgroups: Socket operation on non-socket Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/pickup[78811]: fatal: initgroups: Socket operation on non-socket No idea what it means, but it looks like a possible problem. It stopped working after the same update. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --00000000000022ee1c063f59f950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I = am getting lots of this errors:
acpi0: request to enter state NONE fai= led (err 22)

At the=C2=A0same time, post= fix stopped working, so possibly related. Mailing gets the error:
Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/qmgr[78810]: fatal: initgroups: Socket = operation on non-socket
Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/pickup[78811]: fat= al: initgroups: Socket operation on non-socket

No idea what it means, but it looks like a possible problem. It stopp= ed working after the same update.
--
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and r= etired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03= FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:24=E2=80=AFPM Yasuhiro Kimura = wrote: > From: Kevin Oberman > Subject: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:45:07 -0700 > > > Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of this > errors: > > acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22) > > > > At the same time, postfix stopped working, so possibly related. Mailing > gets the error: > > Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/qmgr[78810]: fatal: initgroups: Socket > operation on non-socket > > Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/pickup[78811]: fatal: initgroups: Socket > operation on non-socket > > > > No idea what it means, but it looks like a possible problem. It stopped > working after the same update. > > As for the latter, see the thread starting with following message. > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2025-September/008894.= html > > --- > Yasuhiro Kimura > Thanks! I saw that thread just after I got back from dinner and saw that thread. I'd have liked to test a possible fix, but I really needed to get mail working, so I rebuilt postfix anf it's now working. Still have no clue about the ACPI error, though. I am aware of a bogus error from ACPI about core temp when AC power is disconnect. Pretty obviously bogus as I get a report that the CPU was 0K. Pretty unlikely. --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --000000000000fce61f063f5d45ba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:24=E2= =80=AFPM Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@freeb= sd.org> wrote:
From: Kevin Oberma= n <rkoberman@gm= ail.com>
Subject: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:45:07 -0700

> Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of this err= ors:
> acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22)
>
> At the=C2=A0same time, postfix stopped working, so possibly related. M= ailing gets the error:
> Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/qmgr[78810]: fatal: initgroups: Socket o= peration on non-socket
> Sep 21 13:32:54 ptavv postfix/pickup[78811]: fatal: initgroups: Socket= operation on non-socket
>
> No idea what it means, but it looks like a possible problem. It stoppe= d working after the same update.

As for the latter, see the thread starting with following message.

https://lists.freebsd.o= rg/archives/freebsd-current/2025-September/008894.html

---
Yasuhiro Kimura
Thanks! I saw that thread just after I go= t back from dinner and saw that thread. I'd have=C2=A0 liked to test a = possible fix, but I really needed to get mail working, so I rebuilt postfix= anf it's now working.

Still have no= clue=C2=A0about the ACPI error, though. I=C2=A0 am aware of a bogus error = from ACPI about core temp when AC power is disconnect. Pretty obviously bog= us as I get a report that the CPU
was 0K. Pretty unlikely.

-- <= /span>
=
Kevin Oberman,= Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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My kernel config is customized: ident CUSTOM include GENERIC include "../../conf/std.nodebug" device gre This kernel is built as all the years before, and I can see it: root> ls -l /usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4192 Sep 22 08:42 CUSTOM But uname reports the kernel to be GENERIC: root> uname -i GENERIC root> uname -a FreeBSD mer-waases.net 15.0-ALPHA3 FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA3 #2 = stable/15-n280239-78b179fe9280-dirty: Mon Sep 22 08:42:11 \ CEST 2025 = root@xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC arm64 Where should I start to search, and, is anyone else observing the same? Regards, Michael From nobody Mon Sep 22 11:12:21 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cVgST2ZL9z67kWH; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 11:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cVgSS5FTtz4JNl; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 11:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (124-18-6-240.area1c.commufa.jp [124.18.6.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.18.1/8.17.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 58MBCLLq053770; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 20:12:21 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dec.sakura.ne.jp; s=s2405; t=1758539542; bh=XuNUsi6LUElpubLf6w0MnGezEWcHWr6BCDAuXjDwlCs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=ce5iE22pNBuf468UtCQ+8eWSdN8ax1J03xvTmqq9Kd3x79dX1YYBBVEp4a7PK6b68 R0CFFJyRdHfgISmjhPLmpzJNAdHfMGp7gwhDEjRRJNDEi2nePoJ4ET0xq0hcL9DNx7 LDUJ22CEOUZmQ/RBO38l4r873abueTy5X53yqynY= Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 20:12:21 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Michael Grimm , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: uname reports wrong kernel name Message-Id: <20250922201221.c1fe02cf62970d64173e76cf@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd15.0) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVgSS5FTtz4JNl On Mon, 22 Sep 2025 12:45:19 +0200 Michael Grimm wrote: > Hi, > > I switched from 14.3 to 15.0-STABLE recently, and I do compile world and kernel from source. > > My kernel config is customized: > > ident CUSTOM > include GENERIC > include "../../conf/std.nodebug" > device gre > > This kernel is built as all the years before, and I can see it: > > root> ls -l /usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4192 Sep 22 08:42 CUSTOM > > But uname reports the kernel to be GENERIC: > > root> uname -i > GENERIC > > root> uname -a > FreeBSD mer-waases.net 15.0-ALPHA3 FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA3 #2 stable/15-n280239-78b179fe9280-dirty: Mon Sep 22 08:42:11 \ > CEST 2025 root@xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC arm64 > > > Where should I start to search, and, is anyone else observing the same? > > Regards, > Michael Hi. Simply switch the order of ident line and include line. With your order, ident line is overridden by "ident GENERIC" line in GENERIC. 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Yes, that helped. Thanks, back to normal uname reporting. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, With pkgbase landing in 15.0, I decided that it's time to announce the timeline for deprecation of the legacy "distribution sets". Here's the plan: 15.0-RELEASE: * PKGBASE becomes the default in release/Makefile and a new NOPKGBASE option is added. * The installer supports both install options, with dist sets marked as "legacy" in the pick-how-to-install menu. * The disc1 images only contain a pkgbase repo; people who want to install from disc1 without pkgbase will need an internet connection. * The dvd images contain both dist sets and a pkgbase repo suitable for offline installation with either mechanism. * Traditional FreeBSD Update will work for the entire 15.x branch, including security updates, since this is relatively easy to do as long as we have dist sets. * Work is underway to make freebsd-update behave as a wrapper around pkgbase on pkgbase-enabled systems (right now it just refuses to do anything). 16-CURRENT around 2026Q4: * NODISTSETS becomes the default in release/Makefile and a new DISTSETS option is added to enable them. * support for dist sets in the installer is disabled by default (build option to re-enable). 16.0-RELEASE and later: * Legacy distribution sets are not included on any release media. * Install images only support pkgbase. * Legacy FreeBSD Update does not exist on 16.x; users will need to pkgbasify their 15.x systems before upgrading to 16.x. * Code for distribution sets remains in the tree so that it can be used by downstream projects which aren't on pkgbase yet. 17-CURRENT around 2028Q4: * All the dist set code gets removed from main. Note that this is all about releases and binary updates; the traditional process for updating from source (installworld and friends) is not expected to change in the near future. It's possible that *eventually* that will move to a "stage the world, package it, and then install the packages" approach (just like ports moved from installing directly to "staging" over a decade ago) but if that change happens there will be ample notice. -- Colin Percival FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid From nobody Mon Sep 22 19:00:32 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cVsrm6gLnz68HkX for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 19:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gperciva@tarsnap.com) Received: from mail.tarsnap.com (mail.tarsnap.com [54.86.246.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4cVsrl11r3z42rN for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 19:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gperciva@tarsnap.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tarsnap.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gperciva@tarsnap.com designates 54.86.246.204 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gperciva@tarsnap.com Received: (qmail 99271 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2025 19:00:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by mail.tarsnap.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2025 19:00:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 12:00:32 -0700 From: Graham Percival To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Colin Percival Subject: FreeBSD Git Weekly 2025-09-15 to 2025-09-21 Message-ID: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.62 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.921]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tarsnap.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:54.86.246.204/32]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:54.86.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[54.86.246.204:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVsrl11r3z42rN Hi all, I'm happy to announce FreeBSD git weekly for 2025-09-15 -- 2025-09-21: https://freebsd-git-weekly.tarsnap.net/2025-09-15.html It's a list of the 202 commits in that week, split into categories. Highlighted commits: - qat: enable qat driver for 402xx device - init: Use root's home directory in single-user mode - packages: Remove the tests-dev package - packages: Add a mandoc package - sys/netinet6: Implement RFC 7217 "Highlighted" commits are selected automatically if a commit modifies UPDATING, or if the commit message contains a "Relnotes:" line. If you think that another commit should be highlighted, let me know and I'm happy to make it so. New feature: commits with a "Fixes:" line are now grouped with that earlier commit if it's within the same reporting period. This occasionally results in a commit being moved from one section to another; for example, a bugfix that would have been in "tests" could be put into "libs". To see all reports: https://freebsd-git-weekly.tarsnap.net/ This work is funded by cperciva@ and Tarsnap Backup Inc. 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On 13-September we had a long conversation about read= dir_r, about whether modern applications=C2=A0should be using it (they shou= ldn't), and about whether we should remove it entirely for FreeBSD 16 (= no, at least not yet).=C2=A0 The big problem was that lang/rust still used = readdir_r in its standard library, so we definitely need to preserve that f= unction for now.

Since then I've submitted a P= R to remove the=C2=A0readdir_r calls from the standard library [^1].=C2=A0 = I also updated libc to specifically bind to the pre-FreeBSD 15 ELF symbol f= or readdir_r [^2], which ensures that applications will continue to build e= ven after we remove that function.=C2=A0 Finally, Github code search found = several crates that are still using readdir_r, but only one of them is a cr= ate that I personally care about: Nix.=C2=A0 So I did the same thing there = that I did to the standard library [^3].

At this p= oint, I think it should be safe to remove readdir_r from FreeBSD 16 in abou= t six months, at least as far as Rust is concerned.

[^1]:=C2=A0http= s://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/146549
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Here's the > plan: >=20 > 15.0-RELEASE: > * PKGBASE becomes the default in release/Makefile and a new NOPKGBASE > option is added. > * The installer supports both install options, with dist sets marked > as "legacy" in the pick-how-to-install menu. > * The disc1 images only contain a pkgbase repo; people who want to install > from disc1 without pkgbase will need an internet connection. > * The dvd images contain both dist sets and a pkgbase repo suitable for > offline installation with either mechanism. > * Traditional FreeBSD Update will work for the entire 15.x branch, includ= ing > security updates, since this is relatively easy to do as long as we have = dist > sets. > * Work is underway to make freebsd-update behave as a wrapper around pkgb= ase > on pkgbase-enabled systems (right now it just refuses to do anything). >=20 > 16-CURRENT around 2026Q4: > * NODISTSETS becomes the default in release/Makefile and a new DISTSETS > option is added to enable them. > * support for dist sets in the installer is disabled by default (build > option to re-enable). >=20 > 16.0-RELEASE and later: > * Legacy distribution sets are not included on any release media. > * Install images only support pkgbase. > * Legacy FreeBSD Update does not exist on 16.x; users will need to > pkgbasify their 15.x systems before upgrading to 16.x. > * Code for distribution sets remains in the tree so that it can be used > by downstream projects which aren't on pkgbase yet. >=20 > 17-CURRENT around 2028Q4: > * All the dist set code gets removed from main. >=20 > Note that this is all about releases and binary updates; the traditional > process for updating from source (installworld and friends) is not expect= ed > to change in the near future. It's possible that *eventually* that will > move to a "stage the world, package it, and then install the packages" > approach (just like ports moved from installing directly to "staging" over > a decade ago) but if that change happens there will be ample notice. Hey Colin, Thank you for your (and others!) work on this. I'm hoping that this bug can be resolved before PKGBASE is enabled by default for release generation: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D287877 For the life of me, I can't figure out why I'm hitting that bug downstream. I've made the changes I need to make to match on HardenedBSD-related packages (and can provide the diff if needed.) But even with those changes (mainly just `sed s/FreeBSD/HardenedBSD/g`) I'm still hitting that lua assertion. I haven't tried on regular FreeBSD, only HardenedBSD. But I suspect that since another FreeBSD user is hitting that assertion, it's likely not related to HardenedBSD. I have confirmed that the pkgbase repo that gets built does indeed include the right kernel package. Hence why I'm puzzled why that lua assertion is being tripped. This is the one thing preventing HardenedBSD from being a guinea pig in this pkgbase effort. Update after writing the bulk of the email: I just retried making release media (previous attempt was just a day or two before that bug report having been submitted). I hit the same assertion, but the release/scripts/pkgbase-stage.lua script has changed. New line number: 38. Below is the HardenedBSD version of the script (again, mainly just a branding change). The line numbers are included at the very left. =3D=3D=3D=3D BEGIN lua script OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D 22 local function select_packages(pkg, media, all_libcompats) 23 local components =3D {} 24 local rquery =3D capture(pkg .. "rquery -U -r HardenedBSD-base= %n") 25 for package in rquery:gmatch("[^\n]+") do 26 local set =3D package:match("^HardenedBSD%-set%-(.*)$") 27 if set then 28 components[set] =3D package 29 -- Kernels other than FreeBSD-kernel-generic are ignor= ed 30 -- Note that on powerpc64 and powerpc64le the names are 31 -- slightly different. 32 elseif package:match("^HardenedBSD%-kernel%-hardenedbs= d.*-dbg") then 33 components["kernel-dbg"] =3D package 34 elseif package:match("^HardenedBSD-kernel%-hardened.*"= ) then 35 components["kernel"] =3D package 36 end 37 end 38 assert(components["kernel"]) 39 assert(components["base"]) 40=20 41 local selected =3D {} 42 if media =3D=3D "disc" then =3D=3D=3D=3D END lua script OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D That assertion, the assert(components["kernel"]) is what fails, even though the package is actually there. 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I'm hoping that this > > bug can be resolved before PKGBASE is enabled by default for release > > generation: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D287877 >=20 > can you please show the full process you're using to build the release > image, including any make(1) settings (KERNCONF, etc.)? $ sudo make real-release WITH_DVD=3D1 NODOC=3D1 NOSRC=3D1 NOPORTS=3D1 NODOC= S=3D1 PKGBASE=3D1 Default KERNCONF on HardenedBSD is HARDENEDBSD. This build keeps that default. >=20 > i am also curious if the patch at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52638 > makes any difference. I've ran out of time for the day, but will give this a shot tomorrow or later in the week. I'll report back. >=20 > > I have confirmed that the pkgbase repo that gets built does indeed > > include the right kernel package. Hence why I'm puzzled why that lua > > assertion is being tripped. >=20 > please also show the (names of) the kernel packages you have in your > release repository, i.e. the one in /release/pkgbase-repo > which is generated during the release build. =3D=3D=3D=3D BEGIN OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D $ pkg repos LocalBase: {=20 url : "file:///usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/release/pkgbase-= repo/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest", enabled : yes, priority : 0 } $ pkg rquery -U -r LocalBase '%n' | grep HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd-dbg =3D=3D=3D=3D END OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D That `pkg rquery` command is effectively the same as what that lua script is executing, which is why I'm extra confused. 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Hence why I'm puzzled why that lua > > > assertion is being tripped. > >=20 > > please also show the (names of) the kernel packages you have in your > > release repository, i.e. the one in /release/pkgbase-repo > > which is generated during the release build. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D BEGIN OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D > $ pkg repos > LocalBase: {=20 > url : "file:///usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/release/pkgbas= e-repo/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest", > enabled : yes, > priority : 0 > } > $ pkg rquery -U -r LocalBase '%n' | grep HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd > HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd > HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd-dbg > =3D=3D=3D=3D END OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > That `pkg rquery` command is effectively the same as what that lua > script is executing, which is why I'm extra confused. pkgbase-stage.lua expects the kernel package to be called "kernel-generic", but yours is called "kernel-hardenedbsd", which would cause this error. did you patch the script to change this? 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protected-headers=v1; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Plan for "distribution set" deprecation MIME-Version: 1.0 On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:23:55PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > Shawn Webb wrote in <3ily2wedv7oue6qjjv2b47c37umnlqw363whvpohu6rrpz3hsg@a= 6g6mgjuy334>: > > > > I have confirmed that the pkgbase repo that gets built does indeed > > > > include the right kernel package. Hence why I'm puzzled why that lua > > > > assertion is being tripped. > > >=20 > > > please also show the (names of) the kernel packages you have in your > > > release repository, i.e. the one in /release/pkgbase-repo > > > which is generated during the release build. > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D BEGIN OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D > > $ pkg repos > > LocalBase: {=20 > > url : "file:///usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/release/pkgb= ase-repo/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest", > > enabled : yes, > > priority : 0 > > } > > $ pkg rquery -U -r LocalBase '%n' | grep HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd > > HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd > > HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd-dbg > > =3D=3D=3D=3D END OUTPUT =3D=3D=3D=3D > >=20 > > That `pkg rquery` command is effectively the same as what that lua > > script is executing, which is why I'm extra confused. >=20 > pkgbase-stage.lua expects the kernel package to be called "kernel-generic= ", > but yours is called "kernel-hardenedbsd", which would cause this error. > did you patch the script to change this? (if so, you'll also need to pat= ch > bsdinstall the same way otherwise the install will fail at runtime.) That was why I included the modified code as part of the email I had sent. All references to FreeBSD-branded stuff (including renaming the kernel from GENERIC/generic to HARDENEDBSD/hardenedbsd) have been changed accordingly. I just now uploaded the diff to the hardened/current/master branch: https://hardenedbsd.org/~shawn/2025-09-22_pkgbase-r01.patch.txt Note that some of the bsdinstall bits might indeed still need to be modified. But that's the next problem to tackle. >=20 > if you've modified pkgbase-stage.lua, a link to the version you're using > would be handy. That link above should include the full diff. Please let me know if you feel I've missed something. Note that to apply that diff, you'll need an up-to-date HardenedBSD src tree (branch: hardened/current/master). 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DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hardenedbsd.org:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cW0rK2swwz3sxZ --wyzjjp3l435qf2ko Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Plan for "distribution set" deprecation MIME-Version: 1.0 On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:48:42PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote: > Shawn Webb wrote in : > > That was why I included the modified code as part of the email I had > > sent. >=20 > sorry, i've spent the last six hours writing package descriptions so i'm > a little tired :-) >=20 > > I just now uploaded the diff to the hardened/current/master branch: > > https://hardenedbsd.org/~shawn/2025-09-22_pkgbase-r01.patch.txt >=20 > the problem may be here: >=20 > - elseif package:match("^FreeBSD%-kernel%-generic.*") then > + elseif package:match("^HardenedBSD-kernel%-hardened.*") then >=20 > specifically, "HardenedBSD-kernel" is missing a "%" before the "-", which > causes the pattern not to match: >=20 > > x =3D "HardenedBSD-kernel-hardenedbsd" > > x:match("^HardenedBSD-kernel%-hardened") > nil > > x:match("^HardenedBSD%-kernel%-hardened") > HardenedBSD-kernel-hardened >=20 > does it work better after changing that? It sure does! What a difference a single character makes. I must've deleted an extra character, that %, without knowing it. 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Message-Id: <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 18:24:15 -0700 To: freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee, FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.83 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.83)[-0.829]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.66.147:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.66.147:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cW2MJ5lmVz41qS Sulev-Madis Silber = wrote on Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:19:03 UTC : > the subject is what i found from >=20 > release/packages/template.ucl >=20 > when i tried to figure out why >=20 > pkg info -qoa >=20 > gave me series of "bases" on my current-with-pkgbase test >=20 > i had to do >=20 > pkg query %n There is also the likes of: # pkg query "%n-%v" | less pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 . . . It also shows the version information (that has an encoded date/time in the name). I'll note that there is also remote query: # pkg rquery "%n-%v" | less pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 . . . and its "-r" variation, such as: # pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%n-%v" | less pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 . . . (pkg query does not involve or support -rFreeBSD-base or the like.) > or >=20 > pkg query %C/%n For visual reference: # pkg query "%C/%n" | less pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended base/FreeBSD-acct base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg base/FreeBSD-acpi base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg . . . # pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%C/%n" | less pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended base/FreeBSD-acct base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg base/FreeBSD-acpi base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg . . . > in order to get "real package names". latter blows up if more than one = category is added, of course As an example, base/FreeBSD-acct is not a 'real base package name' at all (note the extra word before "package"): # pkg info base/FreeBSD-acct pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended pkg: No package(s) matching base/FreeBSD-acct By contrast: # pkg info FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 Name : FreeBSD-acct Version : 16.snap20250915234127 Installed on : Tue Sep 16 20:57:58 2025 PDT Origin : base Architecture : FreeBSD:16:amd64 Prefix : / Categories : base Licenses : BSD2CLAUSE Maintainer : re@FreeBSD.org WWW : https://www.FreeBSD.org Comment : System Accounting Utilities Shared Libs required: libc++.so.1 libc.so.7 libcxxrt.so.1 libgcc_s.so.1 libm.so.5 libxo.so.0 Annotations : FreeBSD_version: 1600000 repo_type : binary repository : FreeBSD-base set : base Flat size : 129KiB Description : System Accounting Utilities > is there any reason the origin can't be like with "normal" (ports) = packages? any technical things i don't see here? dependencies from ports = can't be resolved anymore? i mean yes category and name is correct. but = i mean why? :) The notation base/FreeBSD-acct is supposed to mean that (presuming default ports placement) /usr/ports/base/FreeBSD-acct/ is were to find the content for base/FreeBSD-acct . That is not where any of the files are for the acct base package. The files related to base packages are not in the ports tree at all, but in the src git repository (usually used via /usr/src/ references). They are not stored with the pkg program source: they are FreeBSD configuration files that pkg processes. Also, the ports git repository has a history that includes time period that had a category "base", the last before that was removed is visible via: = https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/?id=3Dfb16dfecae4a6efac9f3a78e0b759fb7= a3c53de4 It shows a "base" directory. Looking in it, there was: base/Makefile base/README base/binutils/ base/gcc6/ The commit that removed that base directory was: = https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/base?id=3D2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77d= 5e7a2c0cfaac09 author John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 committer John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 commit 2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77d5e7a2c0cfaac09 (patch) tree d26d1548ef28cbecf4630f49462c79367d59e7af /base parent f3b6cfcaa96240335e8c343a90bcbfa3ff7534c7 (diff) base/*: Remove the base ports to install an external toolchain in /usr. . . . 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R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:7d0:8437:1300::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3249, ipnet:2001:7d0::/32, country:EE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ketas.si.pri.ee:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cW3tZ4CbZz49gL On September 23, 2025 4:24:15 AM GMT+03:00, Mark Millard wrote: >Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:19:03 UTC : > >> the subject is what i found from >>=20 >> release/packages/template=2Eucl >>=20 >> when i tried to figure out why >>=20 >> pkg info -qoa >>=20 >> gave me series of "bases" on my current-with-pkgbase test >>=20 >> i had to do >>=20 >> pkg query %n > >There is also the likes of: > ># pkg query "%n-%v" | less >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >FreeBSD-acct-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >FreeBSD-acpi-16=2Esnap20250910190529 >FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16=2Esnap20250905060419 >=2E =2E =2E > >It also shows the version information (that has >an encoded date/time in the name)=2E > >I'll note that there is also remote query: > ># pkg rquery "%n-%v" | less >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >FreeBSD-acct-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >FreeBSD-acpi-16=2Esnap20250910190529 >FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16=2Esnap20250905060419 >=2E =2E =2E > >and its "-r" variation, such as: > ># pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%n-%v" | less >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >FreeBSD-acct-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >FreeBSD-acpi-16=2Esnap20250910190529 >FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16=2Esnap20250905060419 >=2E =2E =2E > >(pkg query does not involve or support -rFreeBSD-base >or the like=2E) > >> or >>=20 >> pkg query %C/%n > >For visual reference: > ># pkg query "%C/%n" | less >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >base/FreeBSD-acct >base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg >base/FreeBSD-acpi >base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg >=2E =2E =2E > ># pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%C/%n" | less >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >base/FreeBSD-acct >base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg >base/FreeBSD-acpi >base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg >=2E =2E =2E > >> in order to get "real package names"=2E latter blows up if more than on= e category is added, of course > >As an example, base/FreeBSD-acct is not a 'real base package name' >at all (note the extra word before "package"): > ># pkg info base/FreeBSD-acct >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >pkg: No package(s) matching base/FreeBSD-acct > >By contrast: > ># pkg info FreeBSD-acct-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstra= p -f" recommended >FreeBSD-acct-16=2Esnap20250915234127 >Name : FreeBSD-acct >Version : 16=2Esnap20250915234127 >Installed on : Tue Sep 16 20:57:58 2025 PDT >Origin : base >Architecture : FreeBSD:16:amd64 >Prefix : / >Categories : base >Licenses : BSD2CLAUSE >Maintainer : re@FreeBSD=2Eorg >WWW : https://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg >Comment : System Accounting Utilities >Shared Libs required: > libc++=2Eso=2E1 > libc=2Eso=2E7 > libcxxrt=2Eso=2E1 > libgcc_s=2Eso=2E1 > libm=2Eso=2E5 > libxo=2Eso=2E0 >Annotations : > FreeBSD_version: 1600000 > repo_type : binary > repository : FreeBSD-base > set : base >Flat size : 129KiB >Description : >System Accounting Utilities > >> is there any reason the origin can't be like with "normal" (ports) pack= ages? any technical things i don't see here? dependencies from ports can't = be resolved anymore? i mean yes category and name is correct=2E but i mean = why? :) > >The notation base/FreeBSD-acct is supposed >to mean that (presuming default ports placement) >/usr/ports/base/FreeBSD-acct/ is were to >find the content for base/FreeBSD-acct =2E >That is not where any of the files are for >the acct base package=2E > >The files related to base packages are not in the >ports tree at all, but in the src git repository >(usually used via /usr/src/ references)=2E They are >not stored with the pkg program source: they are >FreeBSD configuration files that pkg processes=2E > >Also, the ports git repository has a history >that includes time period that had a category >"base", the last before that was removed is >visible via: > >https://cgit=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/ports/tree/?id=3Dfb16dfecae4a6efac9f3a78e0b7= 59fb7a3c53de4 > >It shows a "base" directory=2E Looking in it, >there was: > >base/Makefile >base/README >base/binutils/ >base/gcc6/ > >The commit that removed that base directory was: > >https://cgit=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/ports/commit/base?id=3D2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a= 0a77d5e7a2c0cfaac09 > >author John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 >committer John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 > >commit 2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77d5e7a2c0cfaac09 (patch) >tree d26d1548ef28cbecf4630f49462c79367d59e7af /base >parent f3b6cfcaa96240335e8c343a90bcbfa3ff7534c7 (diff) > >base/*: Remove the base ports to install an external toolchain in /usr=2E > >=2E =2E =2E > >Avoiding confusions with the ports tree base category >and its history seems appropriate to me=2E > >> i even wanted to change it but there must be a reason for this and i th= ought i ask first=2E maybe get some insight to this too >>=20 >> this is my first try with pkgbase! > > > >=3D=3D=3D >Mark Millard >marklmi at yahoo=2Ecom > > oh yes that makes sense but problem i have is that they all get installed by pkg into system and i= t's db so it's very confusing i mean pkg also allows one to install whatever one wants=2E doesn't have t= o come neither ports nor base yes there are limiting per repo but if it's in all one pkg info list, it g= ets messy this was all fine when pkg was just for ports i wonder what linux distros do here=2E many of them allow own repos=2E it = would extremely cursed if it's like pkg here is but i don't have real solution for this it just did bite my ass when i was playing around with altroot in a dir an= d local repo, when i found i have good set, i wanted to save it and with %n= i indeed did eventually=2E that made me list of packages i would be able t= o feed into install, doesn't matter which version they are that was a wtf so i looked around why and the freebsd- prefix is also understandable but hmm typing that in is h= uge hassle=2E of course i have copy and paste and scripts but still so yeah, those were first impressions of pkgbase from someone who never tr= ied it before but knows it=2E imagine if you know less=2E i immediately wen= t to pkg-query manpage to see for name only var so i can build a list i never installed any ports there but if one uses pkg info (maybe with -q)= , it doesn't help to see that there's also 49 "bases" installed=2E but i do= n't know what's fix either=2E=2E=2E From nobody Tue Sep 23 08:53:55 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cWDKz3CThz68K8Y for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 08:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cWDKx6kWSz3vSJ for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 08:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: 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ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWDKx6kWSz3vSJ On CURRENT and 15.0-ALPHA2, pulling a USB-stick out returns EIO instead of= ENXIO Easy way to test: # plug usb-stick in recoverdisk -v /dev/da0 # pull usb-stick out On 14.3 we, correctly, get ENXIO and recoverdisk(1) terminates. On 16.0-CURRENT and 15.0-ALPHA2 we, wrongly, get EIO, despite the "umass0: detached" message in /var/log/messages. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= . From nobody Tue Sep 23 09:13:03 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cWDm335Fgz68M6n for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cWDm15WqSz40Dm for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of phk@critter.freebsd.dk designates 130.225.244.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=phk@critter.freebsd.dk Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1142BC3F40 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.18.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 58N9D3uY011779; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:13:03 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202509230913.58N9D3uY011779@critter.freebsd.dk> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing USB stick returns EIO now, not ENXIO as 14.x From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <11777.1758618783.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:13:03 +0000 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.32 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.326]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWDm15WqSz40Dm -------- Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > On CURRENT and 15.0-ALPHA2, pulling a USB-stick out returns EIO instead of= > ENXIO > > Easy way to test: > > # plug usb-stick in > recoverdisk -v /dev/da0 > # pull usb-stick out > > On 14.3 we, correctly, get ENXIO and recoverdisk(1) terminates. > > On 16.0-CURRENT and 15.0-ALPHA2 we, wrongly, get EIO, despite > the "umass0: detached" message in /var/log/messages. Ticket: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=289785 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. 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Works on my T14s gen 2. The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started within the last approx 8 weeks). -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= . 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[bapt has changed the pkgbase origin naming] Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 07:50:51 -0700 References: <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-current-freebsd-org111@ketas.si.pri.ee, FreeBSD Current In-Reply-To: <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57@yahoo.com> Message-Id: <7D2CA065-A2D6-477E-97BE-ED28FE060274@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.68.30:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.68.30:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWNG43Dfkz3mWM On Sep 22, 2025, at 18:24, Mark Millard wrote: > Sulev-Madis Silber = wrote on > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:19:03 UTC : >=20 >> the subject is what i found from >>=20 >> release/packages/template.ucl >>=20 >> when i tried to figure out why >>=20 >> pkg info -qoa >>=20 >> gave me series of "bases" on my current-with-pkgbase test >> . . . > . . . bapt has made the origin-naming change for main, scheduled for MFC to relevant stable branches in 3 days: QUOTE > From: Baptiste Daroussin > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:14:07 UTC > The branch main has been updated by bapt: >=20 > URL: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D23e69b54973fcb68d14986ec1600d9df= d0cb7af3 >=20 > commit 23e69b54973fcb68d14986ec1600d9dfd0cb7af3 > Author: Baptiste Daroussin > AuthorDate: 2025-09-23 07:53:58 +0000 > Commit: Baptiste Daroussin > CommitDate: 2025-09-23 13:13:50 +0000 >=20 > pkgbase: set origin for each packages as base/FreeBSD-* > =20 > MFC After: 3 day > Reviewed by: ivy > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52689 > --- > release/packages/template.ucl | 3 +-- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) >=20 > diff --git a/release/packages/template.ucl = b/release/packages/template.ucl > index bf4b1b44bbec..1609a7213be0 100644 > --- a/release/packages/template.ucl > +++ b/release/packages/template.ucl > @@ -8,8 +8,7 @@ name =3D "${PKG_NAME_PREFIX}-${PKGNAME}" > # Base packages always install to /. > prefix =3D "/" > =20 > -# For base packages, origin is always "base". > -origin =3D "base" > +origin =3D "base/${PKG_NAME_PREFIX}-${PKGNAME}" > categories =3D [ base ] > =20 > # $VERSION is the version of the base system being built. 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To: Mark Millard , FreeBSD Developers Cc: FreeBSD Current , Baptiste Daroussin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWVr10xwZz3VRq I have not looked into pkgbase implementation, but would it be too crazy to suggest that we should at least try to re-use some of the ports infrastructure to create those packages? This lines up with the idea that I had for many years that we, as a project, need to support packages coming from the multiple separately maintained "port trees" in order to resolve some of the long-standing issues with how ports operate, both on technical level and organizationally. Those could be either sub-project trees (pkgbase, gnome, kde etc), or even private vendor trees. Then we can have a totally separate pkgbase_ports repository that would re-use some of the existing bsd.port.mk infrastructure to maintain those. We have a success story here operating such a vendor tree at Sippy Software, where all our internal components (~70 at the time of this writing) are managed as private ports in a private ports sub-tree for the past 15 years. Since we are only interested in a single system image (i.e. no incremental updates), none of it has been integrated into pkg tools, but I see no technical obstacles for this to be generalized further to make it more broadly applicable (ENOTIME mostly). Technically this can be achieved by embedding "srcrepo" parameter into a package along with the "origin", so this tuple would uniquely identify origin of any package allowing intelligent handling of updates and upgrades, as well as proper integration with tools like portupgrade. So for packages coming out of the third-party ports this would be simply "https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports@main", and for hypotetical 16.3 pkgbase - "https://github.com/freebsd/pkgbase-ports@releng/16.3". Once this is in place, we can look into making inter-tree dependencies working when building, so that the set of packages we or someone else builds can source ports from a different potentially independently-maintained port trees. This would allow then an "official third-party FreeBSD software package" to depend on the "official FreeBSD pkgbase package" if necessary (e.g. specific libs/bin to run), or use a port from a vendor-specific tree without pulling it into our own tree. Some tooling and bsd.port.mk changes would be necessary at this stage to do steps necessary to "compile" (i.e. pull from git and arrange locally) all trees in the dependency chain, but again I see no huge technical obstacles there either. Just in case, I am the original author of the "origin" feature and some of the "early" (back then cutting-edge) large scale bsd.port.mk portmgr-stype reorganization efforts before portmgr even existed, so I consider myself at least to a some degree qualified to bring those ideas here now. Any comments, ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks! -Maxim On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Mark Millard wr= ote: > > Sulev-Madis Silber wr= ote on > Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:19:03 UTC : > > > the subject is what i found from > > > > release/packages/template.ucl > > > > when i tried to figure out why > > > > pkg info -qoa > > > > gave me series of "bases" on my current-with-pkgbase test > > > > i had to do > > > > pkg query %n > > There is also the likes of: > > # pkg query "%n-%v" | less > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 > FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 > FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 > FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 > . . . > > It also shows the version information (that has > an encoded date/time in the name). > > I'll note that there is also remote query: > > # pkg rquery "%n-%v" | less > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 > FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 > FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 > FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 > . . . > > and its "-r" variation, such as: > > # pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%n-%v" | less > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 > FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 > FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 > FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 > . . . > > (pkg query does not involve or support -rFreeBSD-base > or the like.) > > > or > > > > pkg query %C/%n > > For visual reference: > > # pkg query "%C/%n" | less > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > base/FreeBSD-acct > base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg > base/FreeBSD-acpi > base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg > . . . > > # pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%C/%n" | less > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > base/FreeBSD-acct > base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg > base/FreeBSD-acpi > base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg > . . . > > > in order to get "real package names". latter blows up if more than one = category is added, of course > > As an example, base/FreeBSD-acct is not a 'real base package name' > at all (note the extra word before "package"): > > # pkg info base/FreeBSD-acct > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > pkg: No package(s) matching base/FreeBSD-acct > > By contrast: > > # pkg info FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended > FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 > Name : FreeBSD-acct > Version : 16.snap20250915234127 > Installed on : Tue Sep 16 20:57:58 2025 PDT > Origin : base > Architecture : FreeBSD:16:amd64 > Prefix : / > Categories : base > Licenses : BSD2CLAUSE > Maintainer : re@FreeBSD.org > WWW : https://www.FreeBSD.org > Comment : System Accounting Utilities > Shared Libs required: > libc++.so.1 > libc.so.7 > libcxxrt.so.1 > libgcc_s.so.1 > libm.so.5 > libxo.so.0 > Annotations : > FreeBSD_version: 1600000 > repo_type : binary > repository : FreeBSD-base > set : base > Flat size : 129KiB > Description : > System Accounting Utilities > > > is there any reason the origin can't be like with "normal" (ports) pack= ages? any technical things i don't see here? dependencies from ports can't = be resolved anymore? i mean yes category and name is correct. but i mean wh= y? :) > > The notation base/FreeBSD-acct is supposed > to mean that (presuming default ports placement) > /usr/ports/base/FreeBSD-acct/ is were to > find the content for base/FreeBSD-acct . > That is not where any of the files are for > the acct base package. > > The files related to base packages are not in the > ports tree at all, but in the src git repository > (usually used via /usr/src/ references). They are > not stored with the pkg program source: they are > FreeBSD configuration files that pkg processes. > > Also, the ports git repository has a history > that includes time period that had a category > "base", the last before that was removed is > visible via: > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/?id=3Dfb16dfecae4a6efac9f3a78e0b759fb= 7a3c53de4 > > It shows a "base" directory. Looking in it, > there was: > > base/Makefile > base/README > base/binutils/ > base/gcc6/ > > The commit that removed that base directory was: > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/base?id=3D2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77= d5e7a2c0cfaac09 > > author John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 > committer John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 > > commit 2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77d5e7a2c0cfaac09 (patch) > tree d26d1548ef28cbecf4630f49462c79367d59e7af /base > parent f3b6cfcaa96240335e8c343a90bcbfa3ff7534c7 (diff) > > base/*: Remove the base ports to install an external toolchain in /usr. > > . . . > > Avoiding confusions with the ports tree base category > and its history seems appropriate to me. > > > i even wanted to change it but there must be a reason for this and i th= ought i ask first. maybe get some insight to this too > > > > this is my first try with pkgbase! > > > > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > marklmi at yahoo.com > > From nobody Tue Sep 23 20:23:15 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cWWdL6Rp0z67sb8 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cWWdL5XqYz3b5h; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758658998; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=s5WrtlD+6CadP+l142YB6vYwUl+6uzowE+RUdzjNCco=; b=qZlk7Q2d5ECuB3cQtMauakSRfiU6itdF3q0lnMpEbhEpiUDE8K5s+8ersB1cebENKRD33k pemsLMXwvasl5MOESXby7wRgZ41VVvobZTWzRgZfHoYc7uki4bIgdIo0NW9LxZmG0z9QMX OIQqg8FajvrcDSAab0UCp4Mf7W5A9rYhKKu0LZvBeZaqsT3slShdHhk35PGJhkIM9vl+H4 N6XOZlQhYLqbRFfxQWBRhompctl73k8tbmE8YYxeQQmvT92WRalU27tKhGi98WHO3oPnLo Rnhl3/GBIp/jHzYZF+grSdAE1z/xXVvVpXQPvV28k5X950VmUsy4SIZRrUgyBw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758658998; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=s5WrtlD+6CadP+l142YB6vYwUl+6uzowE+RUdzjNCco=; b=hq6+ACPDvy3p2Jgx61pxOgEOrQRo7vR4ee9EIDIO756P1b/issIKUPIwY2YbfQrGIL+329 Y3bSZJZ+8T31G4hUZ3HILz59n4G/dmIVVcw6jbJ+1wEFcKn6vgJ5AEDm1+RMJQDS2qHjFH 3+/PjW2pbxJyiaczrrqJjeq/9/27XqSxVfFNu9B18/sqU/4Wdy4ChYmDeW3ETPfqFUuOnF aK48Lfjr6WPDkUw7ElIzhX5NQtL+W9T0Sar/Rx3qDGVBPKF04dGAmIiDvb2oFGJx6fecM+ 1t44ApfE0E7NR/dsBr68KW/zpeXZI1Btn8/mAX2jM+SchiDkGzH0CLCDtEFsDg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1758658998; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SfU4wekVqY88zxu/rpD8OcRQE7Xqb4gbu0avLjBaGIt0gstl+sYKxjmLQdalkPxy4AvOWF 2bAQn1GBEUIm2QiYOs/Ia/O4T6AcKe2R1gJ81va0LY/8GLXyAtRNfDrX8NQZTh0cgarQNV vUjeNvB4PWYDERE6hkrpuJmGRY+BQqRooR6qWKoxoH2cArX0HJXhaZ0d+gT7AVBlzWv8Kb 2s/ndkpDVggKFkzu9xXoeMAubPQMrLx/m53R9ztuLbugfhyRqLOl54qLH+DHNa0unL8TND xRQQIF8Lp0qOiXqoTMgSoBwcUl0HS3JgfrJFL0NTlIUXKxWKnkly9lk6sHt7LA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from cell.glebi.us (glebi.us [162.251.186.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: glebius) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cWWdL2Bptz3b3; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:23:15 -0700 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: September 2025 stabilization week Message-ID: References: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 01:00:30AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: T> This is an automated email to inform you that the September 2025 stabilization week T> started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was tagged as T> main-stabweek-2025-Sep. The A/B testing at Netflix did not discover any performance neither stability regressions compared to August stabweek. My personal desktop with nVidia upgrade went almost smoothly, except that COMPAT_FREEBSD14 seems to be needed for X to work. Note that X doesn't exit due to bad syscall, just doesn't see the nvidia device. I wasn't able to find out what is the real requirement for COMPAT_FREEBSD14. Laptop upgrade has a regression - USB ports do not work after resume. Poul- Henning also reports the same for a different Thinkpad version. This definitely needs to be bisected. The problem is that both me and Poul-Henning have skipped the August stabweek on our laptops (this is why it is important to have the packages in the repo, btw!), so the regression could come from August. Right now at EuroBSDCon using laptop as main terminal, I can't bisect this until next week. There is a known regression with nd_ifinfo ABI, and a fix 0ec13430c583 has been committed. 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Did someone import a new ACPICA or something? -adrian On Tue, 23 Sept 2025 at 02:18, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > This is an automated email to inform you that the September 2025 > stabilization week > > started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was tagged > as > > main-stabweek-2025-Sep. > > Works on my T14s gen 2. > > The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started > within the last approx 8 weeks). > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > --00000000000032b850063f7e2c6f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
can you narrow down the commit range? Did someone import a= new ACPICA or something?



= -adrian


On Tue, 23 Sept 2025 at 0= 2:18, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.f= reebsd.dk> wrote:
> This is an automated email to inform you that the September= 2025 stabilization week
> started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was tagg= ed as
> main-stabweek-2025-Sep.

Works on my T14s gen 2.

The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started<= br> within the last approx 8 weeks).

--
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Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.=
--00000000000032b850063f7e2c6f-- From nobody Tue Sep 23 22:32:03 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cWZV85wxnz682xN for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo75.interia.pl (smtpo75.interia.pl [217.74.67.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cWZV82XrFz3tLJ; Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:32:03 +0200 From: vermaden Subject: Re: For base packages, origin is always "base". To: Maxim Sobolev , Mark Millard , FreeBSD Developers Cc: FreeBSD Current , Baptiste Daroussin X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: References: <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57.ref@yahoo.com> <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57@yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 45.148.42.23 Message-Id: List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=biztos; t=1758666727; bh=sW+GLO7Ojufm+nYjgH4f7ReZNW7UanmydTRzWZAUZn4=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qxlyiqWL0M01yw8Sb0eMsnC1ST0mSEn2xwVXcd/zvGbcFFDYE3r0kebuQTaiIFp19 4ZwzYYoOVD7DTCIqPW4RZ/QY9bdqmiW9Kz2Fg3z/B/nWSzJqC3zP5lufqZqsBwdXNC /HG7ZVRTA0bKKVeMwf0YSbft38ivoxSQi/V0uvu0= X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWZV82XrFz3tLJ There was time when GhostBSD 'Base System' were in their Ports tree. They had just another 'os' category under which it happened. #/ BUILD GhostBSD os BASE PORTS /# builder # poudriere bulk -j 13-2-R-amd64-src -p ghostbsd \ os/buildkernel \ os/buildkernel-debug \ os/buildworld \ os/kernel \ os/kernel-debug \ os/kernel-debug-symbols \ os/kernel-symbols \ os/userland \ os/userland-base \ os/userland-base-bootstrap \ os/userland-bin \ os/userland-boot \ os/userland-conf \ os/userland-debug \ os/userland-devtools \ os/userland-docs \ os/userland-lib \ os/userland-lib32 \ os/userland-lib32-development \ os/userland-rescue \ os/userland-sbin \ os/userland-tests \ os/ports \ os/src Some more details here: - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2023/12/09/personal-freebsd-pkgbase-update= -server/ I always liked that idea. Regards, vermaden Temat: Re: For base packages, origin is always "base". Data: 2025-09-23 21:48 Nadawca: "Maxim Sobolev" <sobomax@freebsd.org> Adresat: "Mark Millard" <marklmi@yahoo.com>; "FreeBSD Developers" <de= velopers@freebsd.org>;=20 DW: "FreeBSD Current" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>; "Baptiste Daroussin= " <bapt@freebsd.org>;=20 >=20 > > I have not looked into pkgbase implementation, but would it be too > crazy to suggest that we should at least try to re-use some of the > ports infrastructure to create those packages? This lines up with the > idea that I had for many years that we, as a project, need to support > packages coming from the multiple separately maintained "port trees" > in order to resolve some of the long-standing issues with how ports > operate, both on technical level and organizationally. Those could be > either sub-project trees (pkgbase, gnome, kde etc), or even private > vendor trees. Then we can have a totally separate pkgbase_ports > repository that would re-use some of the existing bsd.port.mk > infrastructure to maintain those. >=20 > We have a success story here operating such a vendor tree at Sippy > Software, where all our internal components (~70 at the time of this > writing) are managed as private ports in a private ports sub-tree for > the past 15 years. Since we are only interested in a single system > image (i.e. no incremental updates), none of it has been integrated > into pkg tools, but I see no technical obstacles for this to be > generalized further to make it more broadly applicable (ENOTIME > mostly). >=20 > Technically this can be achieved by embedding "srcrepo" parameter into > a package along with the "origin", so this tuple would uniquely > identify origin of any package allowing intelligent handling of > updates and upgrades, as well as proper integration with tools like > portupgrade. So for packages coming out of the third-party ports this > would be simply "https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports@main", and > for hypotetical 16.3 pkgbase - > "https://github.com/freebsd/pkgbase-ports@releng/16.3". >=20 > Once this is in place, we can look into making inter-tree dependencies > working when building, so that the set of packages we or someone else > builds can source ports from a different potentially > independently-maintained port trees. This would allow then an > "official third-party FreeBSD software package" to depend on the > "official FreeBSD pkgbase package" if necessary (e.g. specific > libs/bin to run), or use a port from a vendor-specific tree without > pulling it into our own tree. Some tooling and bsd.port.mk changes > would be necessary at this stage to do steps necessary to "compile" > (i.e. pull from git and arrange locally) all trees in the dependency > chain, but again I see no huge technical obstacles there either. >=20 > Just in case, I am the original author of the "origin" feature and > some of the "early" (back then cutting-edge) large scale bsd.port.mk > portmgr-stype reorganization efforts before portmgr even existed, so I > consider myself at least to a some degree qualified to bring those > ideas here now. >=20 > Any comments, ideas or suggestions are welcome. Thanks! >=20 > -Maxim >=20 > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Mark Millard=20 wrote: >> >> Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on >> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:19:03 UTC : >> >> > the subject is what i found from >> > >> > release/packages/template.ucl >> > >> > when i tried to figure out why >> > >> > pkg info -qoa >> > >> > gave me series of "bases" on my current-with-pkgbase test >> > >> > i had to do >> > >> > pkg query %n >> >> There is also the likes of: >> >> # pkg query "%n-%v" | less >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 >> FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 >> FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 >> FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 >> . . . >> >> It also shows the version information (that has >> an encoded date/time in the name). >> >> I'll note that there is also remote query: >> >> # pkg rquery "%n-%v" | less >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 >> FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 >> FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 >> FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 >> . . . >> >> and its "-r" variation, such as: >> >> # pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%n-%v" | less >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 >> FreeBSD-acct-dbg-16.snap20250915234127 >> FreeBSD-acpi-16.snap20250910190529 >> FreeBSD-acpi-dbg-16.snap20250905060419 >> . . . >> >> (pkg query does not involve or support -rFreeBSD-base >> or the like.) >> >> > or >> > >> > pkg query %C/%n >> >> For visual reference: >> >> # pkg query "%C/%n" | less >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> base/FreeBSD-acct >> base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg >> base/FreeBSD-acpi >> base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg >> . . . >> >> # pkg rquery -rFreeBSD-base "%C/%n" | less >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> base/FreeBSD-acct >> base/FreeBSD-acct-dbg >> base/FreeBSD-acpi >> base/FreeBSD-acpi-dbg >> . . . >> >> > in order to get "real package names". latter blows up if more than one category is added, of course >> >> As an example, base/FreeBSD-acct is not a 'real base package name' >> at all (note the extra word before "package"): >> >> # pkg info base/FreeBSD-acct >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> pkg: No package(s) matching base/FreeBSD-acct >> >> By contrast: >> >> # pkg info FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 >> pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended >> FreeBSD-acct-16.snap20250915234127 >> Name : FreeBSD-acct >> Version : 16.snap20250915234127 >> Installed on : Tue Sep 16 20:57:58 2025 PDT >> Origin : base >> Architecture : FreeBSD:16:amd64 >> Prefix : / >> Categories : base >> Licenses : BSD2CLAUSE >> Maintainer : re@FreeBSD.org >> WWW : https://www.FreeBSD.org >> Comment : System Accounting Utilities >> Shared Libs required: >> libc++.so.1 >> libc.so.7 >> libcxxrt.so.1 >> libgcc_s.so.1 >> libm.so.5 >> libxo.so.0 >> Annotations : >> FreeBSD_version: 1600000 >> repo_type : binary >> repository : FreeBSD-base >> set : base >> Flat size : 129KiB >> Description : >> System Accounting Utilities >> >> > is there any reason the origin can't be like with "normal" (ports) packages? any technical things i don't see here? dependencies from ports can't be resolved anymore? i mean yes category and name is correct. but i mean why? :) >> >> The notation base/FreeBSD-acct is supposed >> to mean that (presuming default ports placement) >> /usr/ports/base/FreeBSD-acct/ is were to >> find the content for base/FreeBSD-acct . >> That is not where any of the files are for >> the acct base package. >> >> The files related to base packages are not in the >> ports tree at all, but in the src git repository >> (usually used via /usr/src/ references). They are >> not stored with the pkg program source: they are >> FreeBSD configuration files that pkg processes. >> >> Also, the ports git repository has a history >> that includes time period that had a category >> "base", the last before that was removed is >> visible via: >> >> https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/?id=3Dfb16dfecae4a6efac9f3a78e0b759fb7a= 3c53de4 >> >> It shows a "base" directory. Looking in it, >> there was: >> >> base/Makefile >> base/README >> base/binutils/ >> base/gcc6/ >> >> The commit that removed that base directory was: >> >> https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/base?id=3D2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77d5= e7a2c0cfaac09 >> >> author John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 >> committer John Baldwin 2023-02-13 21:14:34 +0000 >> >> commit 2ed924f5ecb1efe13229a0a77d5e7a2c0cfaac09 (patch) >> tree d26d1548ef28cbecf4630f49462c79367d59e7af /base >> parent f3b6cfcaa96240335e8c343a90bcbfa3ff7534c7 (diff) >> >> base/*: Remove the base ports to install an external toolchain in /usr. >> >> . . . >> >> Avoiding confusions with the ports tree base category >> and its history seems appropriate to me. >> >> > i even wanted to change it but there must be a reason for this and i thought i ask first. maybe get some insight to this too >> > >> > this is my first try with pkgbase! >> >> >> >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> marklmi at yahoo.com >> >> >=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Wed Sep 24 00:01:10 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cWcSl0Nhsz688Jj; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from salvadore@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cWcSk2DK2z40FT; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from salvadore@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758672070; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc; bh=GqnjX5wO3V1OMET4a3AkNWtv954YwRpHfUSTPNCamc4=; b=Aq+HhaXoJWK00/4r6iqW0dk6mOqnPj5K7pEU9bR6CjwvLCdlumRn/B9CjI9Nkou3KHwjOc HIACD8uUMdzr56LtPr0KeSIImzaevRKwxf3bHe+EqPOu/2WSTD8vR3H/EPxkzkdpOY2wTR +k7JlJt8SFE6TNSNsVlIMAuqdeoJEC7cIK794TVePaOqY0Wjhf5SL4ob2dbTYKZQVQ1C6K ZqMFVEuM10I26BZsMp4VRNbJZaBb7fxbhT761RI4jKv+rVMEhFWxtbIEknLMKoYPj67aaO Hg2L/xNj36sBGbiC2oVe5pMp8ntlfjNX/wwoPhBOE3GrfB63Rk6GZ1ziRev9eA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758672070; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc; bh=GqnjX5wO3V1OMET4a3AkNWtv954YwRpHfUSTPNCamc4=; b=Jvv93hALziByJALIFdjgWkTmI0IyTIjLoFd0lYdy2DtToLU/yLLusyrdFMt9nTEh2AEY5M eeH6sk8qDS0DpOL/K8k5+DDeouKyJApd8b05N2VbjHS/HGxIIT0HROQonhCgCYlM5cSkQO OOPrQUAtCkDNJdnWHwf1c9Jrlc5xgDDJyz7DJUDsMG649evFrUuOUzd6tmwQuTo9C1EEnc 9qPO6O/wNhMH0FcRPH9uBnWP1loP05qrB9r1QkBtnIVbKY3KXgrFq4W4wzRcjgLvbVxywI QZE+WHuzPNG/Lvy1Wgj2AjSZwRDSwcS8qD05n9j6ZoFxRwRKTAjRMm9oWNId8g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1758672070; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=qpPFh1mAVDmYRM1O30Hn+hSVehYXhiZC+oAAfSeU8f9f9Y7ofa9KfK5iAF2KQsxVQlj7Mf h63yMk7a/7hOixmvwH9mxPGvLmygM8SY9hO0/c4HEqZGDFk/QXFG4lE/FOSMdYj0umYRnp uOrbfT9E+HQt3aekevhQJ2HA05sCKsqAFI7mGt668buqGU2CL+IvtqeRVUDrL+GgwlHwcL mWMN8VR34pn8fxntPjpOo8HlqqKR+X8/AeXnZn+0h4WwJNZm0UoGTSTZbEdYqx98l6LqMr BHVp1aP5jqvxeox3g1vI66YOaVBKlWwz/En44ZhPtcSz6qvGiCebzk1vhra9iA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1472) id 150501A044; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:01:10 +0000 (-00) To: freebsd-status-calls@FreeBSD.org Subject: [LAST OFFICIAL REMINDER] Call for 2025Q3 status reports Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org,freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org,devsummit@FreeBSD.org,soc-students@FreeBSD.org,soc-mentors@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20250924000110.150501A044@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:01:10 +0000 (-00) From: Lorenzo Salvadore List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD Community, The deadline for the next FreeBSD Status Report update is September, 30th 2025 for work done since the last round of quarterly reports: July 2025 - September 2025. 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A contradiction. 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Did someone import a new ACPICA or something? -adrian On Tue, 23 Sept 2025 at 02:18, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > This is an automated email to inform you that the September 2025 > stabilization week > > started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was tagged > as > > main-stabweek-2025-Sep. > > Works on my T14s gen 2. > > The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started > within the last approx 8 weeks). > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > --00000000000032b850063f7e2c6f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
can you narrow down the commit range? Did someone import a= new ACPICA or something?



= -adrian


On Tue, 23 Sept 2025 at 0= 2:18, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.f= reebsd.dk> wrote:
> This is an automated email to inform you that the September= 2025 stabilization week
> started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was tagg= ed as
> main-stabweek-2025-Sep.

Works on my T14s gen 2.

The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started<= br> within the last approx 8 weeks).

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charset=utf-8 > On Sep 21, 2025, at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM, Kevin Oberman = wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:24=E2=80=AFPM Yasuhiro Kimura = wrote: > From: Kevin Oberman > Subject: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88 > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:45:07 -0700 >=20 > > Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of this = errors: > > acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22) `err 22` means `EINVAL`, which points to this block of code from = `sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c`: ``` 3193 acpi_ReqSleepState(struct acpi_softc *sc, int state) 3194 { 3195 #if defined(__amd64__) || defined(__i386__) 3196 struct apm_clone_data *clone; 3197 ACPI_STATUS status; 3198 =20 3199 if (state < ACPI_STATE_S1 || state > ACPI_S_STATES_MAX) 3200 return (EINVAL); ``` What state are you trying to enter? You might have not be = entering the mode, which could be why you=E2=80=99re hitting that = message (some defensive code might be missing). I wonder if this commit is related: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d20= 130e1bca = (CCed obiwac@). 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boundary="000000000000346aed063f85ad62" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWmHg0D6kz3X9t --000000000000346aed063f85ad62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 7:25=E2=80=AFPM Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) < yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 21, 2025, at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:24=E2=80=AFPM Yasuhiro Kimura > wrote: > > From: Kevin Oberman > > Subject: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88 > > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:45:07 -0700 > > > > > Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of this > errors: > > > acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22) > > `err 22` means `EINVAL`, which points to this block of code from > `sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c`: > ``` > 3193 acpi_ReqSleepState(struct acpi_softc *sc, int state) > 3194 { > 3195 #if defined(__amd64__) || defined(__i386__) > 3196 struct apm_clone_data *clone; > 3197 ACPI_STATUS status; > 3198 > 3199 if (state < ACPI_STATE_S1 || state > ACPI_S_STATES_MAX) > 3200 return (EINVAL); > ``` > > What state are you trying to enter? You might have not be enterin= g > the mode, which could be why you=E2=80=99re hitting that message (some de= fensive > code might be missing). > I wonder if this commit is related: > https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d2= 0130e1bca > < > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d2= 0130e1bca> > (CCed obiwac@). > Cheers, > -Enji Thanks, but these errors were caused by hte commit that broke several ports including postfix. It turns out that rebuilding the failed ports. That is really a work-around, but allowed me to get postfix working correctly and, as a fringe benefit, fixed the ACPI errors. since it was a change in error returns that caused the problem. --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --000000000000346aed063f85ad62 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 7:25=E2= =80=AFPM Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
rkoberman@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:24=E2=80=AFPM Yasuhiro Kimura <yasu@freebsd.org> wrote:=
> From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
> Subject: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:45:07 -0700
>
> > Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of thi= s errors:
> > acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 `err 22` means `EINVAL`, which points to this b= lock of code from `sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c`:
```
3193 acpi_ReqSleepState(struct acpi_softc *sc, int state)
3194 {
3195 #if defined(__amd64__) || defined(__i386__)
3196=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0struct apm_clone_data *clone;
3197=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ACPI_STATUS status;
3198=C2=A0
3199=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0if (state < ACPI_STATE_S1 || state > ACPI_S_S= TATES_MAX)
3200=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0return (EINVAL);
```

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 What state are you trying to enter? You might h= ave not be entering the mode, which could be why you=E2=80=99re hitting tha= t message (some defensive code might be missing).
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I wonder if this commit is related: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/= commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d20130e1bca <https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/co= mmit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d20130e1bca> (CCed obiwac@).=
Cheers,
-Enji

Thanks, but = these errors were caused by hte commit that broke several ports including p= ostfix. It turns out that rebuilding the failed ports. That is really a wor= k-around, but allowed me to get postfix working correctly and, as a fringe = benefit, fixed the ACPI errors. since it was a change in error returns that= caused the problem.
-- =
Kevin Oberman, Part = time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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This is my primary work machine so a bisect is not compatible with my other responsibilies, but I have kept old kernels around and their results are: Works, august 18: main-n279689-c04fe26aa2f7 Fails, august 25: main-n279849-49ae0c259205 During resume the failing kernel outputs: xhci1: Controller reset timeout. xhci1: detached pci6: detached pcib7: detached pci5: detached pcib6: detached [...] My personal prime suspect would be: commit b5daf675efc746611c7cfcd1fa474b8905064c4b Merge: b03f765f076c 5bb60d44e941 Author: Jung-uk Kim Date: Thu Aug 21 17:45:33 2025 -0400 acpica: Merge ACPICA 20250807 Merge commit '5bb60d44e94172a567412968545c82065695d871' commit 5bb60d44e94172a567412968545c82065695d871 Author: Jung-uk Kim Date: Thu Aug 21 16:38:34 2025 -0400 Import ACPICA 20250807 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. 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[209.85.161.47]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 46e09a7af769-7691cbf90c7sm7652232a34.19.2025.09.24.02.30.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Sep 2025 02:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oo1-f47.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-62f5f5cfc58so1398148eaf.0 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 02:30:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWm124I6CPgEAMgOrl/lD9mENh9ouusP/oYj+xxm0d2D/AFtVedyyVVziGz/dXyLqONe38/RnPLSLd7MdGSBhI=@freebsd.org X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:2e43:b0:437:dd6e:6844 with SMTP id 5614622812f47-43f2d46965dmr3276355b6e.38.1758706250958; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 02:30:50 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250922.112305.218918605244730977.yasu@FreeBSD.org> <2E2426C6-C2E4-49E1-99E5-60D5A98383BF@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: obiwac Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 11:30:39 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AS18NWC2IKQ4HK8KUn7aVAGsCH5PLS0QJiXjIorEU2tN2fcGEF-6yzxg_s7CPgE Message-ID: Subject: Re: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88 To: Kevin Oberman Cc: "Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya)" , Yasuhiro Kimura , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cWs646s7Lz41y4 > I wonder if this commit is related: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?= id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d20130e1bca (CCed obiwac@). This commit shouldn't be the issue as it is just a revert of a recent commi= t. > Thanks, but these errors were caused by hte commit that broke several por= ts including postfix. It turns out that rebuilding the failed ports. That i= s really a work-around, but allowed me to get postfix working correctly and= , as a fringe benefit, fixed the ACPI errors. since it was a change in erro= r returns that caused the problem. Which commit is that exactly? On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 07:53, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 7:25=E2=80=AFPM Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya) wrote: >> >> >> > On Sep 21, 2025, at 10:41=E2=80=AFPM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 7:24=E2=80=AFPM Yasuhiro Kimura wrote: >> > From: Kevin Oberman >> > Subject: ACPI error after update to n280504-1f2a65222b88 >> > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:45:07 -0700 >> > >> > > Since updating my 16.0 system on Friday, I am getting lots of this e= rrors: >> > > acpi0: request to enter state NONE failed (err 22) >> >> `err 22` means `EINVAL`, which points to this block of code from= `sys/dev/acpica/acpi.c`: >> ``` >> 3193 acpi_ReqSleepState(struct acpi_softc *sc, int state) >> 3194 { >> 3195 #if defined(__amd64__) || defined(__i386__) >> 3196 struct apm_clone_data *clone; >> 3197 ACPI_STATUS status; >> 3198 >> 3199 if (state < ACPI_STATE_S1 || state > ACPI_S_STATES_MAX) >> 3200 return (EINVAL); >> ``` >> >> What state are you trying to enter? You might have not be enteri= ng the mode, which could be why you=E2=80=99re hitting that message (some d= efensive code might be missing). >> I wonder if this commit is related: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src= /commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d20130e1bca (CCed obiw= ac@). >> Cheers, >> -Enji > > > Thanks, but these errors were caused by hte commit that broke several por= ts including postfix. It turns out that rebuilding the failed ports. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if people here use rctl to limit memory utilization for some practical purposes and what your experience is. Recently I had a "bright" idea to limit memory use of Firefox (which, for me, tends to consume all memory and swap impacting everything else on the system). Since Firefox is multi-process now, I decided to use a "null" jail as a resource container. That is, a jail configured with path=/ mount.nodevfs host=inherit ip4=inherit. There is no filesystem or network isolation (so, no security benefits), just grouping of related Firefox processes. The memory limit is set with this rule: jail:firefox-cage:memoryuse:deny=8g I didn't know in advance how the memory limiting would affect Firefox and how Firefox would react to it, so I decided to go ahead and experiment. I want to add that initially I also had a rule to limit swapuse but with it enabled, Firefox wouldn't even start. When I removed the rule I observed that initially rctl reported some absurdly high and unstable swapuse for the jail. Gradually, it went down to some reasonable values. Maybe there is some bug in RACCT code about accounting swap. For example: $ rctl -h -u jail:firefox-cage: | sort coredumpsize=0 cputime=524 datasize=276K maxproc=23 memorylocked=0 memoryuse=8236M msgqqueued=0 msgqsize=0 nmsgq=0 nsem=0 nsemop=0 nshm=0 nthr=559 openfiles=5376 pcpu=93 pseudoterminals=0 readbps=0 readiops=0 shmsize=0 stacksize=8792K swapuse=32G vmemoryuse=73G wallclock=3445 writebps=288 writeiops=2 One minute later: $ rctl -h -u jail:firefox-cage: | sort coredumpsize=0 cputime=588 datasize=312K maxproc=26 memorylocked=0 memoryuse=8249M msgqqueued=0 msgqsize=0 nmsgq=0 nsem=0 nsemop=0 nshm=0 nthr=633 openfiles=5496 pcpu=80 pseudoterminals=0 readbps=0 readiops=0 shmsize=0 stacksize=10M swapuse=19G vmemoryuse=73G wallclock=5140 writebps=32K writeiops=16 So, I had to ditch that rule although I find limiting memoryuse without limiting swapuse to be incomplete. Also, I didn't even consider limiting vmemoryuse because it is very large, it is hard to predict and it seems to have little correlation with the physical memory use. Regarding the experiment, Firefox more or less works, but not without issues. When there are a lot of sites are open in tabs, especially some "web applications" that I have to use and which I know to be memory hogs, Firefox start glitching here and there. Mostly it looks like some broken JavaScript. Another observation is that memoryuse always stays somewhat above the 8 GB limit. Sometimes it's just very slightly above, sometimes it's a couple of hundred megs (or a few percent) above, e.g., memoryuse=8455M. And almost all the time I see a vmdaemon thread being active: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 16 root 119 - 0B 16K CPU4 4 57.1H 68.98% vmdaemon And it's always somewhere in this call chain: procstat -kk 16 PID TID COMM TDNAME KSTACK 16 100177 vmdaemon - vm_swapout_object_deactivate+0x130 vm_swapout_map_deactivate_pages+0x1f3 vm_daemon+0x87d fork_exit+0xc7 fork_trampoline+0xe My impression is that vm_daemon is trying to inactivate some pages belonging to processes in the jail, so that they could get swapped out. But either they get reactivated or the pageout code does not see a need to swap them out and they remain resident. I'd say that this is kind of unexpected consequence. It keeps a CPU core busy and doesn't allow the system to enter power saving states. To conclude, this has a been useful experiment for me. Initially, I had some naive expectations that memory limiting would just magically "limit memory". The experiment forced me to think about what it actually means to limit memory, how it could be done, what consequences it would have and in what cases it could be useful. If anyone has better suggestions and better experience, please let me know. 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P> P> Works on my T14s gen 2. P> P> The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started P> within the last approx 8 weeks). I bisected my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 7th Gen down to 02a8fadd2c4dc4b78d6d93d9d8b70e9348a6de6d. Note: to reproduce the dead USBs I need not only suspend-resume cycle, but also pull out power cord. Good news: Aymeric is here at EuroBSDCon and in next two days he is close to my laptop and we are going to debug this. Can you try reverting this revision, too? -- Gleb Smirnoff From nobody Wed Sep 24 15:12:04 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cX0gp4j7nz681Cn for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cX0gp0PzLz3nqd; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37DD8C3F40; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.18.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 58OFC4NH004779; Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:12:04 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202509241512.58OFC4NH004779@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Gleb Smirnoff cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: September 2025 stabilization week In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <202509230918.58N9IrBq011875@critter.freebsd.dk> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4777.1758726724.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 15:12:04 +0000 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cX0gp0PzLz3nqd -------- Gleb Smirnoff writes: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 09:18:53AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > P> > started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was t= agged as > P> > main-stabweek-2025-Sep. > P> = > P> Works on my T14s gen 2. > P> = > P> The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this st= arted > P> within the last approx 8 weeks). > > I bisected my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 7th Gen down to 02a8fadd2c4dc4b78d6d93d= 9d8b70e9348a6de6d. > Can you try reverting this revision, too? I've added that to the TODO list, may get to it tonight. > Note: to reproduce the dead USBs I need not only suspend-resume > cycle, but also pull out power cord. I dont need to do that, but I'm powering through a dock, so that may make some kind of difference. > Good news: Aymeric is here at EuroBSDCon and in next two days > he is close to my laptop and we are going to debug this. Great! Is there any additional info I can collect that he wants ? -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= . 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Yes! Can you send me your dmesg after doing a suspend-resume and also the result of: acpidump -s Also would help me if you could apply this patch: diff --git a/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c b/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c index 0a8b67a5fa84..c0c0c9c758c9 100644 --- a/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c +++ b/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c @@ -741,13 +741,14 @@ acpi_pwr_switch_consumer(ACPI_HANDLE consumer, int state) * before we were checking D-states. */ if (ACPI_FAILURE(acpi_pwr_get_state_locked(consumer, &new_state))) { - printf("%s: failed to get new D-state\n", __func__); + printf("%s: failed to get new D-state (device %s)\n", __func__, + acpi_name(consumer)); pc->ac_state = state; } else { if (new_state != state) - printf("%s: new power state %s is not the one requested %s\n", + printf("%s: new power state %s is not the one requested %s (%s)\n", __func__, acpi_d_state_to_str(new_state), - acpi_d_state_to_str(state)); + acpi_d_state_to_str(state), acpi_name(consumer)); pc->ac_state = new_state; } On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 17:59, Aymeric Wibo wrote: > > > Is there any additional info I can collect that he wants ? > > Yes! Can you send me your dmesg after doing a suspend-resume and also > the result of: > > acpidump -s > > Also would help me if you could apply this patch: > > diff --git a/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c b/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c > index 0a8b67a5fa84..c0c0c9c758c9 100644 > --- a/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c > +++ b/sys/dev/acpica/acpi_powerres.c > @@ -741,13 +741,14 @@ acpi_pwr_switch_consumer(ACPI_HANDLE consumer, int state) > * before we were checking D-states. > */ > if (ACPI_FAILURE(acpi_pwr_get_state_locked(consumer, &new_state))) { > - printf("%s: failed to get new D-state\n", __func__); > + printf("%s: failed to get new D-state (device %s)\n", __func__, > + acpi_name(consumer)); > pc->ac_state = state; > } else { > if (new_state != state) > - printf("%s: new power state %s is not the one requested %s\n", > + printf("%s: new power state %s is not the one requested %s (%s)\n", > __func__, acpi_d_state_to_str(new_state), > - acpi_d_state_to_str(state)); > + acpi_d_state_to_str(state), acpi_name(consumer)); > pc->ac_state = new_state; > } > > > > On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 17:12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > -------- > > Gleb Smirnoff writes: > > > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 09:18:53AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > P> > started with FreeBSD/main at main-n280533-f72908c94df9, which was tagged as > > > P> > main-stabweek-2025-Sep. > > > P> > > > P> Works on my T14s gen 2. > > > P> > > > P> The right hand USB-A port is still dead after suspend-resume (this started > > > P> within the last approx 8 weeks). > > > > > > I bisected my Thinkpad X1 Carbon 7th Gen down to 02a8fadd2c4dc4b78d6d93d9d8b70e9348a6de6d. > > > > > Can you try reverting this revision, too? > > > > I've added that to the TODO list, may get to it tonight. > > > > > Note: to reproduce the dead USBs I need not only suspend-resume > > > cycle, but also pull out power cord. > > > > I dont need to do that, but I'm powering through a dock, so that may > > make some kind of difference. > > > > > Good news: Aymeric is here at EuroBSDCon and in next two days > > > he is close to my laptop and we are going to debug this. > > > > Great! > > > > Is there any additional info I can collect that he wants ? > > > > -- > > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. 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The function is quite smart and can use either tmpfs or a memory disk depending on the configuration. 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ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:7d0:8437:1300::/56]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3249, ipnet:2001:7d0::/32, country:EE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ketas.si.pri.ee:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cXy1z4Kwvz3gfW ok=2E=2E=2E i kept on looking seems like it runs out of order i also noticed "buildworld buildkernel installworld installkernel distribu= tion" installs world before building kernel but according to make, kernel should be first, then dtb, however the log b= elow shows as if it doesn't=2E i don't really know=2E it checks for some fi= le, what creates it, i can't find=2E or is it even missing=2E but that coul= d explain why second run works in the end i don't know why i don't have dtb package=2E i didn't even know= it should be there=2E and as i don't use fdt from tree, i didn't even noti= ce=2E none of my repo builds have it either=2E unsure if it's my option or = what=2E but second run creates it, options unchanged =3D=3D=3D> etc/termcap (install) --- installdirs-CONFSDIR --- installing DIRS CONFSDIR install -N /root/files/poudriere/basefs/jails/current-armv7-minimal/usr/sr= c/etc -U - M /root/files/poudriere/obj/current-armv7-minimal/root/files/poudriere/bas= efs/jails/ current-armv7-minimal/usr/src/arm=2Earmv7/worldstage//METALOG -D /root/fil= es/poudriere /obj/current-armv7-minimal/root/files/poudriere/basefs/jails/current-armv7= -minimal/u sr/src/arm=2Earmv7/worldstage -T package=3Dutilities -d -m 0755 -o root -= g wheel /root /files/poudriere/obj/current-armv7-minimal/root/files/poudriere/basefs/jai= ls/current -armv7-minimal/usr/src/arm=2Earmv7/worldstage/etc -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Installing everything completed on Thu Sep 25 14:39:00 EEST 2025 >>> Install world completed in 64 seconds, ncpu: 2, make -j2 -------------------------------------------------------------- 63=2E98 real 53=2E16 user 22=2E72 sys --- _repodir --- --- create-packages-world --- --- create-packages-kernel --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstrap= -f" recomme nded --- create-packages-world --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstrap= -f" recomme nded --- create-packages-kernel --- --- create-dtb-package --- --- create-kernel-packages-flavor-default --- --- create-packages-world --- --- create-world-packages --- --- create-packages-kernel --- =3D=3D=3D> Creating FreeBSD-kernel-generic-nodebug-16=2Esnap20250925113748 pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstrap= -f" recomme nded --- create-packages-world --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstrap= -f" recomme nded =3D=3D=3D> Creating FreeBSD-acpi-16=2Esnap20250925113748 pkg -o ABI=3DFreeBSD:16:armv7 -o ALLOW_BASE_SHLIBS=3Dyes -o OSVERSION=3D"= 1600000" create -f txz -l -1 -M /root/files/poudriere/obj/current-armv7-minimal/root/fil= es/poudrie re/basefs/jails/current-armv7-minimal/usr/src/arm=2Earmv7/worldstage/acpi= =2Eucl -p /roo t/files/poudriere/obj/current-armv7-minimal/root/files/poudriere/basefs/ja= ils/curren t-armv7-minimal/usr/src/arm=2Earmv7/worldstage/acpi=2Eplist -r /root/file= s/poudriere/ob j/current-armv7-minimal/root/files/poudriere/basefs/jails/current-armv7-mi= nimal/usr/ src/arm=2Earmv7/worldstage -o /root/files/poudriere/basefs/data/images/cu= rrent-armv7- minimal-repo/FreeBSD:16:armv7/16=2Esnap20250925113748 pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected=2E Running "pkg bootstrap= -f" recomme nded =3D=3D=3D> Creating FreeBSD-at-16=2Esnap20250925113748 From nobody Fri Sep 26 04:38:47 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cXyXQ57hjz699X5 for ; 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Fri, 26 Sep 2025 14:50:58 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 14:50:58 +0300 From: Sulev-Madis Silber To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: dev docs updates are awesome User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Message-ID: <6F1AEE9F-4369-428B-A508-D3B4742D2380@ketas.si.pri.ee> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.70 / 15.00]; HFILTER_HOSTNAME_5(3.00)[d004-fea2-0bff-021e-13e8-8437-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.914]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ketas.si.pri.ee,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ketas.si.pri.ee:s=ketas-si-pri-ee-20240416002854-4096]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:7d0:8437:1300::/56]; 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mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from b.nours.eu (b.nours.eu [IPv6:2001:41d0:303:5e39::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cY8R26g3yzkgJ; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 12:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by b.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 611BA2C1F0; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 14:04:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 14:04:59 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Sulev-Madis Silber Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For base packages, origin is always "base". [bapt has changed the pkgbase origin naming] Message-ID: References: <0EAFDC33-DC46-4A41-995B-1CE20395EF57@yahoo.com> <7D2CA065-A2D6-477E-97BE-ED28FE060274@yahoo.com> <0B88C5F7-F979-4175-BF81-16C1315884C8@ketas.si.pri.ee> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0B88C5F7-F979-4175-BF81-16C1315884C8@ketas.si.pri.ee> On Fri 26 Sep 07:38, Sulev-Madis Silber wrote: > but metapackage sets still have it "base" i noticed This is not a big deal because this part is only "informative", actually we should just remove it entirely theorically, it still is mandatory because some third party tool required (still requires ?) it in ports. Best regards, Bapt > > On September 23, 2025 5:50:51 PM GMT+03:00, Mark Millard wrote: > >On Sep 22, 2025, at 18:24, Mark Millard wrote: > > > >> Sulev-Madis Silber wrote on > >> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:19:03 UTC : > >> > >>> the subject is what i found from > >>> > >>> release/packages/template.ucl > >>> > >>> when i tried to figure out why > >>> > >>> pkg info -qoa > >>> > >>> gave me series of "bases" on my current-with-pkgbase test > >>> . . . > >> . . . > > > >bapt has made the origin-naming change for main, > >scheduled for MFC to relevant stable branches in > >3 days: > > > >QUOTE > >> From: Baptiste Daroussin > >> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 13:14:07 UTC > >> The branch main has been updated by bapt: > >> > >> URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=23e69b54973fcb68d14986ec1600d9dfd0cb7af3 > >> > >> commit 23e69b54973fcb68d14986ec1600d9dfd0cb7af3 > >> Author: Baptiste Daroussin > >> AuthorDate: 2025-09-23 07:53:58 +0000 > >> Commit: Baptiste Daroussin > >> CommitDate: 2025-09-23 13:13:50 +0000 > >> > >> pkgbase: set origin for each packages as base/FreeBSD-* > >> > >> MFC After: 3 day > >> Reviewed by: ivy > >> Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52689 > >> --- > >> release/packages/template.ucl | 3 +-- > >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 2 deletions(-) > >> > >> diff --git a/release/packages/template.ucl b/release/packages/template.ucl > >> index bf4b1b44bbec..1609a7213be0 100644 > >> --- a/release/packages/template.ucl > >> +++ b/release/packages/template.ucl > >> @@ -8,8 +8,7 @@ name = "${PKG_NAME_PREFIX}-${PKGNAME}" > >> # Base packages always install to /. > >> prefix = "/" > >> > >> -# For base packages, origin is always "base". > >> -origin = "base" > >> +origin = "base/${PKG_NAME_PREFIX}-${PKGNAME}" > >> categories = [ base ] > >> > >> # $VERSION is the version of the base system being built. > >END QUOTE > > > >=== > >Mark Millard > >marklmi at yahoo.com > > > > > From nobody Fri Sep 26 17:25:36 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cYHYD5T9yz68cGf for ; 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The function is quite smart and can us= e > either tmpfs or a memory disk depending on the configuration. > But mount_tmpmfs in rc.d/tmp tests only for an md device when it checks > whether > /tmp is already a "memory filesystem". > That sounds wrong to me... Warner --000000000000972384063fb793a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Sep 25,= 2025 at 8:10=E2=80=AFAM Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org> wrote:

I've just had a quick look at rc.d/tmp and noticed that it uses mount_m= d
function for the actual mounting.=C2=A0 The function is quite smart and can= use
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/tmp is already a "memory filesystem".

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RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b12d:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cYP8k3tQkz3NK9 --0000000000003100cc063fbb1b90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:30=E2=80=AFAM obiwac wrote: > > I wonder if this commit is related: > https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d2= 0130e1bca > < > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d2= 0130e1bca> > (CCed obiwac@). > > This commit shouldn't be the issue as it is just a revert of a recent > commit. > > > Thanks, but these errors were caused by hte commit that broke several > ports including postfix. It turns out that rebuilding the failed ports. > That is really a work-around, but allowed me to get postfix working > correctly and, as a fringe benefit, fixed the ACPI errors. since it was a > change in error returns that caused the problem. > > Which commit is that exactly? > I believe it was https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D9dc1ac8691966480= . I believe updating any port that was impacted will resolve the issue. It seems likely that the issue has been fixed by commit f72908c94df9a256422790d4e2a60c9c33a35f2d on 2025-09-22 05:01:47. --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --0000000000003100cc063fbb1b90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 2:30=E2= =80=AFAM obiwac <obiwac@freebsd.or= g> wrote:
> I wonder if this c= ommit is related: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d201= 30e1bca <ht= tps://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D506b36c4fdde0b402cc730b41a9d9d20130= e1bca> (CCed obiwac@).

This commit shouldn't be the issue as it is just a revert of a recent c= ommit.

> Thanks, but these errors were caused by hte commit that broke several = ports including postfix. It turns out that rebuilding the failed ports. Tha= t is really a work-around, but allowed me to get postfix working correctly = and, as a fringe benefit, fixed the ACPI errors. since it was a change in e= rror returns that caused the problem.

Which commit is that exactly?

I be= lieve it was=C2=A0https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D9dc1ac8691966480. I believe updating any port that was impacted will resolve the issue. It= seems likely that the issue has been fixed by commit=C2=A0

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That's what we get when git doesn't build. 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This happened to me. --186932634ed2861b_9fade2c57f001111_602bc7441e55b40d-- From nobody Sat Sep 27 18:06:01 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cYwPJ38d9z68SnT for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2025 18:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cYwPH635Zz3PBQ; Sat, 27 Sep 2025 18:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (124-18-6-240.area1c.commufa.jp [124.18.6.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.18.1/8.17.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 58RI622r028247; Sun, 28 Sep 2025 03:06:04 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dec.sakura.ne.jp; s=s2405; t=1758996365; bh=lwlyFYnp18pz4G6NF30Q5upxWWjizbHDrUKDV6SSFNE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=eKQpYGGwKiRivciFaNJ655826E9jZk6Ka3JM/5XMNFXWk9d5dVsM41Gt5z0FARQFm 2FAsjmwB+dQ/qsBJ84u5aQr8yzJHk+0N7voTCQTHUKHYFTgg17YcBk4auNeesBnsXg JDO7TZQgkeKBfqUy4gtm6NwxrgyGLqcrouop78ho= Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2025 03:06:01 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: Tomek CEDRO Cc: Andriy Gapon , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: rc.d/tmp: tmpfs support not entirely complete? Message-Id: <20250928030601.8489ed419f642d6f5c4b50b6@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd15.0) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cYwPH635Zz3PBQ On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 18:02:54 +0200 Tomek CEDRO wrote: > one question here by the way is md faster than tmpfs? i find tmpfs a bit > slow.. > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info My understanding is that both are different in their purpose. md acts as virtual "disk", backed by disk image like *.iso, and needed to be mounted as the backed filesystem (if the image is partitioned, mount the partition as the defined filesystem type, like FAT, UFS, ...). Not 100% sure, but if filesystems inside md can be updated via md if mounted with rw. OTOH, tmpfs itself act as a actual (but volatile) filesystem, mounted as tmpfs. And once in memory pressures, less actively used part of it is swapped, if swap partitions or swap files are cofigured (swap backed). And these differences can affect performance, depending on memory pressures. -- Tomoaki AOKI