From nobody Mon Oct 6 03:11:43 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-net@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cg4822275z69SGf for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2025 03:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cross+freebsd@relay.distal.com) Received: from relay.wiredblade.com (relay.wiredblade.com [168.235.95.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cg4810RgCz3xMB for ; Mon, 06 Oct 2025 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cross+freebsd@relay.distal.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=relay.distal.com header.s=mail header.b="j9b/OzUJ"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cross+freebsd@relay.distal.com designates 168.235.95.80 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=cross+freebsd@relay.distal.com dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=relay.distal.com; s=mail; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; h=From:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=cdSBIuyO1iccwEsIDToFETXfsym3FaqVehwAA783NRU=; b=j9b/OzUJcL63OcbCbShRucSg2QxR95dKAdD+m4d6FcNBCZkRtlJmKbA/XHhLlQw94qhsq6jeIiegmkj+aClTUK01phwdCdQa4q8G0qgMASwYoVT6xcoty5B+ycIsIhs0HIgqsPION7Y+5Xv+PyDhX4JEe1GzSoPTtwfykFfoSlbr7fuBLScmUFJ1rHP+MJLAJ4hwG+UrvpaxqA+RlQM0gXidKbAtGXMoxvO24+VdxBzBD5XgVnoPqpZVcg +BbF0CeijuyE/fmJn8h5F+wXIruUtsoLHIFk0RpykCQVgtg2UBeKd1J0OO4kIwz8k812ST8BOEUY/HMEBvgSVGJxZu1A== Received: from mail.distal.com (pool-108-45-29-236.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.45.29.236]) by relay.wiredblade.com with ESMTPSA (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256) ; Mon, 6 Oct 2025 03:12:25 +0000 Received: from smtpclient.apple ( [2600:4040:2cc8:f620:f141:7f06:f21:8921]) by tristain.distal.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id d5110dc9 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2025 23:12:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Ross Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.100.1.1.5\)) Subject: Network interface renaming Message-Id: <1CB5332A-5E7E-420A-A6AC-3F2D70A0B6C3@distal.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 23:11:43 -0400 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.100.1.1.5) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[cross@distal.com,cross@relay.distal.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[relay.distal.com:s=mail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:relay.dynu.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3842, ipnet:168.235.92.0/22, country:US]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[distal.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cross@distal.com,cross@relay.distal.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-net@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-net@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[relay.distal.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cg4810RgCz3xMB Hello. I am booting a 14.3 amd64 router, and the network connections = are all vlan interfaces on a 10Gbe link. I found some time ago that I can rename these interfaces and decided to do so. But, recently, I=E2=80=99m = noting that some things are not working properly at boot, including (but not=20 limited to) local_unbound. I fear this is because the interfaces are renamed _after_ local_unbound tries to start using them. I don=E2=80=99t see any log messages from local-unbound in daemon.log = until I manually start it after the system comes up. And I don=E2=80=99t have = a full view of the boot messages as they=E2=80=99ve scrolled off of the = screen. 1. Is interface renaming just too dangerous to use? 2. Is there any way I can make the interfaces take their names earlier? 3. Can I verify when local-onbound, or other, daemons are starting up and if they=E2=80=99re failing get that reported somewhere I can see After the system is multi-user? Thank you for your help. - Chris=