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The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1 (or later) and take less time, even if the number of port-package builds is the same. Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+ based before the next build starts. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Fri Sep 26 08:01:04 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkg@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cY31k0RXGz69NmM for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 08:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smtp-relay-int-backup.realworks.nl (smtp-relay-int-backup.realworks.nl [87.255.56.188]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cY31j5PyHz43S5 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 08:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtp-relay-int-backup.realworks.nl (crmpreview3.colo2.realworks.nl [10.2.52.33]) by mailrelayint2.colo2.realworks.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cY31Y4txXzJt; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 10:01:05 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=klop.ws; s=rw2; t=1758873665; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=FCTf0w2mjlXDstgkdWIXif0thtxQZlqIqZY+ASDMATE=; b=FZjlo6OcxWOzuB0Tm2EB7bHnSRmKNnLtY5m1wv0ZcYvh+HnIPyz3UDub/pXCaOqQ7xv6eV 9/J6Qr3viayvjAAFyXHWuQB1ko5k94ETp48Rf/tRpYLOmr8Ea0jDJSbecza8tmlU2aahqB 0uRHmax/dgP51bYOTf019COxLMge0XUtUwY9ZiNR/DLhYKCMkJwos+Qcxde+4o3IVS9DnC nBzLSEkE3lXbeWCqOK3ctAj8W0nYg0yYLj4CmhlLCN0szutMyYEp2eN8OnqsrOnExFLrWf DFAidWzlBFvFcAs4BQRWmLr5Z2uDu79LsQ73ftEZv5cevnBUOwqv70RAxUoSSg== Received: from crmpreview3.colo2.realworks.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crmpreview3.colo2.realworks.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCD21401F4; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 10:01:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 10:01:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald Klop To: Mark Millard Cc: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2037391737.2952.1758873664938@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build) List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2951_1942882188.1758873664933" X-Mailer: Realworks (767.1) X-Originating-Host: from (89-20-164-210.static.ef-service.nl [89.20.164.210]) by crmpreview3.colo2.realworks.nl [10.2.52.33] with HTTP; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 10:01:04 +0200 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Originating-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:143.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/143.0 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cY31j5PyHz43S5 ------=_Part_2951_1942882188.1758873664933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does anybody know on what machine the new 15arm64 builds will be running? As that will give another long running build on these machines which are already under pressure. I really hope there will be a new machine available for this. Regards, Ronald. Van: Mark Millard Datum: vrijdag, 26 september 2025 07:48 Aan: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Onderwerp: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build) > > The port-package builds are done and ampere2 is doing the > "clean_restricted:" and "pkgrepo:" sorts of final stages > before distribution servers around the world are updated. > > The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1 > (or later) and take less time, even if the number of > port-package builds is the same. > > Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+ > based before the next build starts. > > === > Mark Millard > marklmi at yahoo.com > > > > > ------=_Part_2951_1942882188.1758873664933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

Does anybody know on what machine the new 15arm64 builds will be running? As that will give another long running build on these machines which are already under pressure. I really hope there will be a new machine available for this.

Regards,
Ronald.

 

Van: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Datum: vrijdag, 26 september 2025 07:48
Aan: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org
Onderwerp: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build)

The port-package builds are done and ampere2 is doing the
"clean_restricted:" and "pkgrepo:" sorts of final stages
before distribution servers around the world are updated.

The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1
(or later) and take less time, even if the number of
port-package builds is the same.

Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+
based before the next build starts.

===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com

 

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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0db1123f3ab1073edf1b035d62d96404; Fri, 26 Sep 2025 14:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build) From: Mark Millard X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <2037391737.2952.1758873664938@localhost> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 07:51:26 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3BDA08A0-F73D-4B7A-95FD-303AAC5FBBB5@yahoo.com> References: <2037391737.2952.1758873664938@localhost> To: Ronald Klop X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cYD7L6533z3gsG On Sep 26, 2025, at 01:01, Ronald Klop wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Does anybody know on what machine the new 15arm64 builds will be = running? As that will give another long running build on these machines = which are already under pressure. I really hope there will be a new = machine available for this. Tier 1 requires (quoting): =E2=80=A2 Official binary packages for third party software will be provided by the ports team. For embedded architectures, these packages may be cross-built from a different architecture. =E2=80=A2 Dedicated hardware in one of the FreeBSD clusters for package building (either natively or via qemu-user). =E2=80=A2 Developers should be able to build packages on commonly available, non-embedded Tier 1 systems. This can mean either native builds if non-embedded systems are commonly available for the platform in question, or it can mean cross-builds=20 hosted on some other Tier 1 architecture. Tier 2 does not. But (quoting): =E2=80=A2 The ports infrastructure should include basic support for Tier 2 architectures sufficient to support building ports and packages. This includes support for basic packages such as ports-mgmt/pkg, but there is no guarantee that arbitrary ports will be buildable or functional. =E2=80=A2 Tier 2 platforms should be self-hosting either via the in-tree toolchain or an external toolchain. If an external toolchain is required, official binary packages for an external toolchain will be provided. So: no claim of Official binary packages for general 3rd party software. armv7 is Tier 2 for All Supported Platforms (13.*, 14.*, and upcoming 15.*). Technically FreeBSD could choose to not do as many types (or any types) of armv7 builds for a time. Or they could go back to trying to use qemu on amd64 for targeting armv7 for a time for at least some types of builds. (As I remember, the qemu armv6 builds were only able to build a few thousand ports towards the end of the armv6 official builds time frame.) Or adding new builder machines. Or just adding to the work load on the existing builder machines, still doing some or all of the armv7 builds. It will be interesting to see what is done. Mark > Regards, > Ronald. >=20 > Van: Mark Millard > Datum: vrijdag, 26 september 2025 07:48 > Aan: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org > Onderwerp: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 = and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 = build) > The port-package builds are done and ampere2 is doing the > "clean_restricted:" and "pkgrepo:" sorts of final stages > before distribution servers around the world are updated. >=20 > The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1 > (or later) and take less time, even if the number of > port-package builds is the same. >=20 > Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+ > based before the next build starts. >=20 =20 =20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Sat Sep 27 04:33:56 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkg@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cYZNP5HHgz68j9m for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2025 04:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic301-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic301-20.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.64.146]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cYZNM6qy8z40vg for ; 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ac4632b3b322cbdf183981007e63c3da; Sat, 27 Sep 2025 04:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done [15stable-arm64 is building on ampere2] From: Mark Millard X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <3BDA08A0-F73D-4B7A-95FD-303AAC5FBBB5@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 21:33:56 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2037391737.2952.1758873664938@localhost> <3BDA08A0-F73D-4B7A-95FD-303AAC5FBBB5@yahoo.com> To: Ronald Klop X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.146:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.146:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cYZNM6qy8z40vg On Sep 26, 2025, at 07:51, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 26, 2025, at 01:01, Ronald Klop wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> Does anybody know on what machine the new 15arm64 builds will be = running? As that will give another long running build on these machines = which are already under pressure. I really hope there will be a new = machine available for this. See: = https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/ampere2/build.html?mastername=3D15stable-ar= m64-default&build=3D53919f5dd30e It is 15stable-arm64-default (arm64 latest's port packages) being built on ampere2 . Looks like builds of main-arm64 and main-armv7 port-packages are canceled for now. (The 15.0-RELELASE process likely can not afford to wait for either of the others to be in a cycle that would force long periods between 15.0-* builds.) (But it trades off doing the type of testing that building port-packages for main involves.) > Tier 1 requires (quoting): >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Official binary packages for third party software will be > provided by the ports team. For embedded architectures, these > packages may be cross-built from a different architecture. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Dedicated hardware in one of the FreeBSD clusters for > package building (either natively or via qemu-user). >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Developers should be able to build packages on commonly > available, non-embedded Tier 1 systems. This can mean either > native builds if non-embedded systems are commonly available > for the platform in question, or it can mean cross-builds=20 > hosted on some other Tier 1 architecture. >=20 >=20 > Tier 2 does not. But (quoting): >=20 > =E2=80=A2 The ports infrastructure should include basic support > for Tier 2 architectures sufficient to support building ports > and packages. This includes support for basic packages such > as ports-mgmt/pkg, but there is no guarantee that arbitrary > ports will be buildable or functional. >=20 > =E2=80=A2 Tier 2 platforms should be self-hosting either via the > in-tree toolchain or an external toolchain. If an external > toolchain is required, official binary packages for an external > toolchain will be provided. >=20 >=20 > So: no claim of Official binary packages for general 3rd party > software. >=20 >=20 > armv7 is Tier 2 for All Supported Platforms (13.*, 14.*, and > upcoming 15.*). Technically FreeBSD could choose to not do as > many types (or any types) of armv7 builds for a time. Or they > could go back to trying to use qemu on amd64 for targeting armv7 > for a time for at least some types of builds. (As I remember, > the qemu armv6 builds were only able to build a few thousand > ports towards the end of the armv6 official builds time frame.) > Or adding new builder machines. Or just adding to the work load > on the existing builder machines, still doing some or all of > the armv7 builds. >=20 > It will be interesting to see what is done. >=20 > Mark >=20 >> Regards, >> Ronald. >>=20 >> Van: Mark Millard >> Datum: vrijdag, 26 september 2025 07:48 >> Aan: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org >> Onderwerp: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 = and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 = build) >> The port-package builds are done and ampere2 is doing the >> "clean_restricted:" and "pkgrepo:" sorts of final stages >> before distribution servers around the world are updated. >>=20 >> The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1 >> (or later) and take less time, even if the number of >> port-package builds is the same. >>=20 >> Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+ >> based before the next build starts. >>=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Sun Sep 28 21:00:10 2025 X-Original-To: pkg@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cZcCZ6qqhz68GsG for ; 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The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 220049 | ports-mgmt/pkg installs unneeded packages Open | 219036 | ports-mgmt/pkg: pkg confused, installs older ver New | 284263 | ports-mgmt/pkg: [1.21.3] --raw-format is broken w Open | 268296 | ports-mgmt/pkg: pip-audit regularly shows vulnera In Progress | 287989 | ports-mgmt/pkg: packages version recognizing erro Open | 264962 | ports-mgmt/pkg 1.18.2: 'pkg-static: pkg_checksum_ 6 problems total for which you should take action. --17590932103.0F76.42141 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2025 21:00:10 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" 
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users,
which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering
all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Status      |    Bug Id | Description
------------+-----------+---------------------------------------------------
Open        |    220049 | ports-mgmt/pkg installs unneeded packages
Open        |    219036 | ports-mgmt/pkg:  pkg confused, installs older ver
New         |    284263 | ports-mgmt/pkg: [1.21.3] --raw-format is broken w
Open        |    268296 | ports-mgmt/pkg: pip-audit regularly shows vulnera
In Progress |    287989 | ports-mgmt/pkg: packages version recognizing erro
Open        |    264962 | ports-mgmt/pkg 1.18.2: 'pkg-static: pkg_checksum_

6 problems total for which you should take action.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 10a2330d5bddc302d3928ed7f61d97ff; Sun, 28 Sep 2025 21:48:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: FYI: Both beefy18 (main-amd64) and beefy17 (15stable-amd64) recently got "sigterm:" status, stopping the 2 builds Message-Id: <751C97D8-49E4-44ED-BF36-DCB3480BDD1A@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2025 14:48:37 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <751C97D8-49E4-44ED-BF36-DCB3480BDD1A.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.86 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.982]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.876]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.205:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.205:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cZdHm5Wf8z3NLZ I'm unsure what will be next for beefy1[78] --or when. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com