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Mon, 6 Oct 2025 08:00:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkg List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThreadId: AmVAXOHgsl9g Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2025 12:00:02 +0000 From: "Dave Cottlehuber" To: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org, yann.kerherve@gmail.com Message-Id: <837b6748-528a-43d7-8fa5-220fb4c274f9@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: upgrade of poudriere builders to major versions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.05 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.960]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[skunkwerks.at,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[skunkwerks.at:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.168.172.128/27:c]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[103.168.172.155:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:151847, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:AU]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dch]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[freebsd.org,gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[skunkwerks.at:+,messagingengine.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cgHs30C9Cz4QLM On Mon, 29 Sep 2025, at 18:03, Yann Kerherv=C3=A9 wrote: > Hello, > > I build in poudriere jails, and upgrade my hosts so that my jails have=20 > an equal or inferior version. > > I also build my poudriere builder machines inside poudriere (using the=20 > poudriere image option, which replaced my nanoBSD setup). > > What's the recommended way to jump from 14 to 15? I can't use my 14=20 > builder machines because the jail is not happy and the ABI changed=20 > enough in 15 that it doesn't work (IIRC 13->14 was ok). Yann you might need to provide some more info. What does=20 "jail is not happy" mean? At a very high level, you should be able to: - upgrade host to 15 (currently in ALPHA5 only) - continue to use your existing poudriere setup - add a 15.0 builder by `poudriere jail -c -j 15amd64 -v 15.0-ALPHA5 -K = GENERIC` or similar > How is FreeBSD's releng infrastructure deal with this? FreeBSD releng infrastructure typically runs a recent-ish CURRENT=20 now at 16.x, and builds from sources, using the makefile targets in /usr/src/ & /usr/src/release to ensure a pristine build env, not poudriere. Generally, I'd suggest waiting for at least the BETA or RC to test, follow https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/schedule/ for timelines. A+ Dave