From nobody Wed May 28 01:18:45 2025 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b6WqB0Q2fz5wgj8; Wed, 28 May 2025 01:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4b6Wq93J67z4Jyf; Wed, 28 May 2025 01:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1748395125; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; 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Wed, 28 May 2025 09:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 10:59:37 +0100 From: Lexi Winter To: Ronald Klop Cc: pkgbase@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 15.0 pkgbase, manual action required on upgrade Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Ronald Klop , pkgbase@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org References: <1106157033.1339.1748414263174@localhost> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2AO2UilA7nu86TTi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1106157033.1339.1748414263174@localhost> --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Ronald Klop: > This makes me think of the /usr/ports/MOVED construction. Maybe > something similar can be useful for base pkgs. ideally this isn't something we want to be doing on an ongoing basis. at the moment there are a number of files that are installed in the wrong package by accident (usually in -utilities, because that's the default package) or that are deliberately installed in -utilities but would be better in their own package. i'm trying to fix all of these prior to the 15.0 release so that people who install a release version don't have to deal with this. if we want to do something like this again after 15.0-RELEASE then we will need to come up with a better solution. we could also do with some sort of metapackage / package groups system, so you can easily install a workload like "development tools" and also get new packages for that workload when you upgrade... i believe the pkg(8) people are working on something like this, or at least would like to work on it if they have time :-) --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaDbehgAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YNp7AP4vA9dxrva2/tTq+8FuIIPEXEnriF5N5YQ/e01NFPO1WwEAzNi3qUkQj73Y 6/a/6TVACxaOpUXUO8p8p08zFrJeuwg= =aHEv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2AO2UilA7nu86TTi-- From nobody Fri May 30 06:47:12 2025 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4b7v1G3JVhz5x8wm for ; 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Scenario A is not rare. It may lead to scenario B. Whilst B (with or without A) might not affect a base package, affected users might perceive the overall upgrade experience (including base) as unreliable. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2c0612b3b22a721cac819465f0b50ee8; Fri, 30 May 2025 16:03:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.600.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: CFT: pkgbase support in 15.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 09:02:50 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org To: Graham Perrin , FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.600.51.1.1) References: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.66 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.97)[0.968]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.81)[-0.811]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4b87Ld0CCQz3Wvl X-Spamd-Bar: / Graham Perrin wrote on Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 08:18:17 UTC : [This seems to be about pkg in use for updating ports, but was sent to just FreeBSD-pkgbase@ instead of to FreeBSD-pkg@ .] > Maybe worth noting: >=20 >=20 > A) pkg: killed: failed to reclaim memory > First, some notes about the various reports that were not here for reference, various examples, including notes about missing information: 4 GiBytes of RAM with 16 GByte of SWAP (ZFS? tmpfs use?) (sddm-gre* and Xorg are shown to be in use in the screen shot) real memory =3D 536870912 (512 MB) avail memory =3D 481169408 (458 MB) (SWAP? ZFS? tmpfs use? sddm? Xorg?) 2048 MB "Base Memory". ZFS is shown as in use for this example. (SWAP? tmpfs use?) (sddm? Xorg?) In general for leading up to the failures: All significant sources of keeping at least one CPU busy keeping memory use active and free RAM low? (This combination does NOT use SWAP for paging the Active category's RAM use. "failed to reclaim memory" means Active stayed large via busy CPUs and the FreeRAM threshold was not achieved within vm.pageout_oom_seq attempts.) Note about the above: If SWAP avoids memory constraints is workload dependent. It takes specifying workload properties to identify if SWAP space for paging use is helpful vs. not. Active? Inact? Wired? Free? Swap? for use leading up to the failure? Which processes were keeping the Active category large via the memory access patterns of some busy cpu(s)? (Note: Wired includes the ZFS ARC.) Context for the following quote: Based on the same amount of RAM, going from a 32-bit system to a 64-bit one does not generally mean needing less RAM (or less RAM+SWAP): they are separate issues. The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System 2nd edition, bottom paragraph of page 49 and top paragraph of page 549, both being sections about ZFS: "However, it is neither designed for nor is it well suited to run on resource-constrained systems using 32-bit CPUs with less than 8 GBytes of memory and one small, nearly full disk typical of many embedded system. Thus, the fast filesystem continues to be the file system of choice for these smaller systems." (There is more material documenting the context for the repeated summary statements.) I expect that VM configurations made to look like such a system count in that. Did you do any tuning of the ZFS-in-use examples to try to mitigate some of that status? (Not that I've any expertise to interpret/judge such.) You wrote elsewhere: QUOTE I might expect a killing in a constrained environment, however in this case: =E2=80=A2 the virtual machine has 4 G memory (and 16 G swap) . . . END QUOTE When ZFS is involved, your definition for constrained vs. not does not match the Book's. > B) pkg upgrade finding nothing after an incomplete upgrade > , in particular > >=20 > > =E2=80=A6 I see what may be variations of this issue: > |> > > * pkg upgrade| following an interruption to an upgrade command > /> does/ proceed to install packages, but not everything > > that should be installed. >=20 >=20 > Scenario A is not rare. For whatever the type of contexts you have set up, anyway. > It may lead to scenario B. 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ZFS is shown as in use for this > example. (SWAP? tmpfs use?) (sddm? Xorg?) > > … "before exiting the installer"; no swap, SDDM, or X.Org. I didn't bother to look at tmpfs (I'm usually focused on other things when pkg is killed). Sorry/thanks