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Are your drm kmods built = against=20 > > the > > T> C> > same kernel you're running? > > T> C>=20 > > T> C> This problem was fixed a couple of weeks ago when patches were = applied=20 > > to=20 > > T> C> the drm-66-kmod port. Make sure ports are up to date. > > T>=20 > > T> Yes, looks like ports are buildable at least. Probably = FreeBSD-kmods pkg r > > epo > > T> is lagging behind. > > > > Confirmed. The drm packages just need to be manually rebuilt from = ports. >=20 > Ports are built against 14.2. Those of us using -CURRENT need to = rebuild=20 > any kmod ports ourselves. Not that I know how useful they generally are by content, but there are: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/kmods_latest/ https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:aarch64/kmods_latest/ https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:armv7/kmods_latest/ https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:powerpc/kmods_latest/ https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:powerpc64/kmods_latest/ https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:powerpc64le/kmods_latest/ to go with the matching: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:*/base_latest at the time of installing a PkgBase build for the FreeBSD:15:* involved. Or that seems to be the intent, if it is not in-fact working. One issue can be what subset of the *-kmod* packages are actually available in each of those places. Any other kmods would definitely have the need-to-build issue. For example, on main aarch64 (as I write this): # pkg search -rFreeBSD-kmods -g '*' acpi_call-1.0.1.1500043_2 Kernel module for calling ACPI methods = from userspace devctl-jail-kmod-g20190521.1500043 Module to expose jail lifecycle = events intel-ixv-kmod-1.5.34.1500043_2 10G FreeBSD Base Driver Virtual Function = for Intel(R) NIC linux_dvbwrapper-kmod-1.0.1500043_2 Linux compatibility layer - DVB = ioctl handler mac_nonet-kmod-g20150821.1500043 MAC policy to disable access to = networking for certain group mac_rtprio-kmod-g20170417.1500043 MAC policy to manage access for = setting realtime priorities by GID mbgtools-f.1.0.0.1500043_1 Drivers and tools for Meinberg PTP/GPS = cards ng_mikrotik_eoip-1.0.1500043 Netgraph node for Mikrotik EoIP tunneling open-vm-kmod-12.5.0.1500043,2 Open VMware kernel modules for FreeBSD = VMware guests openzfs-kmod-2.3.2.1500043,1 OpenZFS kernel module for FreeBSD plasma-kmod-0.1.1500043_4 Plasma-effect screensaver kernel module pwcbsd-1.4.1.1500043_15 The Linux pwc webcam driver ported to = FreeBSD quantis-kmod-v18.03.08.1500043 Kernel driver for Quantis PCI/PCIe random = number generator realtek-re-kmod-1100.00.1500043_1 Kernel driver for Realtek PCIe = Ethernet Controllers realtek-re-kmod198-198.00.1500043 Kernel driver for Realtek PCIe = Ethernet Controllers sysctlbyname-improved-kmod-20221211.1500043 Internal sysctl object to = implement an improved sysctlbyname(3) sysctlinfo-kmod-20221211.1500043_1 Kernel sysctl MIB-Tree interface uarduno-1.02.1500043_1 FreeBSD Kernel Driver for the Arduino Uno = USB interface utouch-kmod-0.0.5.1500043 Kernel driver for absolute USB HID mice wifi-firmware-ath10k-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = ath10k (ath10k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-ath11k-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = ath11k (ath11k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-ath12k-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = ath12k (ath12k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-iwlwifi-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = iwlwifi (iwlwifi) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-mt76-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the mt76 = (mt76) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-mt7601u-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = mt7601u (mt7601u) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-rtw88-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = rtw88 (rtw88) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-rtw89-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = rtw89 (rtw89) WiFi NIC driver And on main amd64 (as I write this): # pkg search -rFreeBSD-kmods -g '*' acerhdf-kmod-0.1.4.1500043_1 Acer Aspire One fan control acpi_call-1.0.1.1500043_2 Kernel module for calling ACPI methods = from userspace biosfont-1.3.1.1500043 Kernel module to retrieve bitmap fonts = from BIOS memory devctl-jail-kmod-g20190521.1500043 Module to expose jail lifecycle = events drm-515-kmod-5.15.160.1500043_4 DRM drivers modules drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1500043_4 DRM drivers modules drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500043_3 DRM drivers modules gpu-firmware-amd-kmod-aldebaran-20230625.1500043_2 Firmware modules for = aldebaran AMD GPUs gpu-firmware-intel-kmod-skylake-20230625.1500043 Firmware modules for = skylake Intel GPUs gpu-firmware-radeon-kmod-aruba-20220511.1500043 Firmware modules for = aruba Radeon GPUs intel-ixv-kmod-1.5.34.1500043_2 10G FreeBSD Base Driver Virtual Function = for Intel(R) NIC isboot-kmod-0.2.15.1500043 Kernel module enabling iSCSI/IBFT boot linux_dvbwrapper-kmod-1.0.1500043_2 Linux compatibility layer - DVB = ioctl handler mac_nonet-kmod-g20150821.1500043 MAC policy to disable access to = networking for certain group mac_rtprio-kmod-g20170417.1500043 MAC policy to manage access for = setting realtime priorities by GID mbgtools-f.1.0.0.1500043_1 Drivers and tools for Meinberg PTP/GPS = cards ng_mikrotik_eoip-1.0.1500043 Netgraph node for Mikrotik EoIP tunneling open-vm-kmod-12.5.0.1500043,2 Open VMware kernel modules for FreeBSD = VMware guests opencbm-kmod-0.4.99.104.1500043_2 OpenCBM driver module for = parallel-port X[MA]-1541 cables openzfs-kmod-2.3.2.1500043,1 OpenZFS kernel module for FreeBSD pefs-kmod-g20230913.1500043_1,1 PEFS kernel level stacked cryptographic = filesystem plasma-kmod-0.1.1500043_4 Plasma-effect screensaver kernel module ptx-kmod-0.0.20111212.1500043_2 Device driver for PT1/PT2 ISDB-S/T tuner = cards pwcbsd-1.4.1.1500043_15 The Linux pwc webcam driver ported to = FreeBSD quantis-kmod-v18.03.08.1500043 Kernel driver for Quantis PCI/PCIe random = number generator realtek-re-kmod-1100.00.1500043_1 Kernel driver for Realtek PCIe = Ethernet Controllers realtek-re-kmod198-198.00.1500043 Kernel driver for Realtek PCIe = Ethernet Controllers sysctlbyname-improved-kmod-20221211.1500043 Internal sysctl object to = implement an improved sysctlbyname(3) sysctlinfo-kmod-20221211.1500043_1 Kernel sysctl MIB-Tree interface uarduno-1.02.1500043_1 FreeBSD Kernel Driver for the Arduino Uno = USB interface utouch-kmod-0.0.5.1500043 Kernel driver for absolute USB HID mice virtualbox-ose-kmod-6.1.50.1500043_1 VirtualBox kernel module for = FreeBSD virtualbox-ose-kmod-70-7.0.26.1500043 VirtualBox kernel module for = FreeBSD virtualbox-ose-kmod-71-7.1.8.1500043 VirtualBox kernel module for = FreeBSD virtualbox-ose-kmod-legacy-5.2.44.1500043_7 VirtualBox kernel module for = FreeBSD wifi-firmware-ath10k-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = ath10k (ath10k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-ath11k-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = ath11k (ath11k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-ath12k-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = ath12k (ath12k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-iwlwifi-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = iwlwifi (iwlwifi) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-mt76-kmod-20240513.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the mt76 = (mt76) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-mt7601u-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for the = mt7601u (mt7601u) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-rtw88-kmod-20241017.1500043_2 Firmware modules for 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So: 1500043 based, not 1500048 based. For reference: 150043 started: committer Lexi Winter 2025-05-15 = 00:02:52 +0000 150044 started: committer Konstantin Belousov = 2025-05-28 11:11:23 +0000 So: over 3 weeks ago. (The detailed timing depends on that pkg 2.1+ is still in use in the ampere* based ports-package builds for the aarch64 context. They will eventually get to pkg 2.2+ .) That means it looks like the PkgBase builds for main are not building a FreeBSD-kmods that is a match to any of the kernel from main's PkgBase build. Instead, it looks to be providing whatever the ports-package builders have built. For main, that will frequently not match any of the PkgBase kernels built. SIDE QUESTION: main has multiple kernels available but only one FreeBSD-kmods (instead of one per kernel). Which kernel is FreeBSD-kmods supposed to match? What happens if/when a different one of those kernels is used instead? As near as I can tell, unless the kmods are built to match the intended PkgBase kernel, FreeBSD-kmods would best be avoided (disabled) for main and handled separately. NOTE: I've not checked any context but main. 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Instead, it looks to be providing > whatever the ports-package builders have built. … As far as I can tell, it's different from the whatever. Gleb observed a lag, I see the same. Currently, for AMD64 we have: * 1500043 in FreeBSD-kmods (the first match below) * 1500045 in FreeBSD-ports (the second match below) – superior grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> pkg search drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500043 drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500043_3   DRM drivers modules grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.150004 drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500045_3   DRM drivers modules grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> drm-66-kmod as an example above, because it formed part of the drm-kmod example at , where my local-current repo had the highest version (for 1500048). Looking ahead, FreshPorts might show versions of packages in FreeBSD-kmods repos: . is for base package builds. Re: the current lag, I don't know where to find the status for any FreeBSD-kmods repo. 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FreeBSD-kmods-14-latest is up to date. root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # pkg search -r FreeBSD-kmods-14-latest drm-61-kmod drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1403501_4  DRM drivers modules root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # pkg repos -e FreeBSD-kmods-14-latest FreeBSD-kmods-14-latest: {     url             : "pkg+https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:amd64/kmods_latest",     enabled         : yes,     priority        : 0,     mirror_type     : "SRV",     signature_type  : "FINGERPRINTS",     fingerprints    : "/usr/share/keys/pkg"   } root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:~ # cd /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:/usr/local/etc/pkg/repos # uclcmd set --file FreeBSD-kmods-14-latest.conf FreeBSD-kmods-14-latest.enabled no root@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd:/usr/local/etc/pkg/repos # pkg repos -el ---- is outdated (1402505 at the foot of the table). 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Instead, it looks to be providing > whatever the ports-package builders have built. … As far as I can tell, it's different from the whatever. Gleb observed a lag, I see the same. Currently, for AMD64 we have: * 1500043 in FreeBSD-kmods (the first match below) * 1500045 in FreeBSD-ports (the second match below) – superior grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> pkg search drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500043 drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500043_3   DRM drivers modules grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> pkg search -r FreeBSD-ports drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.150004 drm-66-kmod-6.6.25.1500045_3   DRM drivers modules grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-zbook-freebsd ~> drm-66-kmod as an example above, because it formed part of the drm-kmod example at , where my local-current repo had the highest version (for 1500048). Looking ahead, FreshPorts might show versions of packages in FreeBSD-kmods repos: . is for base package builds. Re: the current lag, I don't know where to find the status for any FreeBSD-kmods repo. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 42e2b9d4e2dfbcc0b0b511fe2f008945; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 19:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.600.51.1.1\)) Subject: Re: For main [so: 15] FreeBSD:15:*/base_latest/ and FreeBSD:15:*/kmods_latest/ do not track [14.3-STABLE's FreeBSD:14:* too] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 12:29:58 -0700 Cc: Cy Schubert , FreeBSD Current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4DD836C1-C173-40B3-96D8-8B358D741E09@yahoo.com> References: To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.600.51.1.1) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.19 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.959]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.35)[0.347]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.190.32:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.190.32:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSBjh1Pmjz3vS4 X-Spamd-Bar: / On Jun 24, 2025, at 20:08, Mark Millard wrote: > [This is based on what I eventually noticed in the material > of my reply to a different message on freebsd-current .] >=20 > Modern https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/blame/sys/sys/param.h has: >=20 > #define __FreeBSD_version 1500048 >=20 > as of = https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/sys/sys/param.h?id=3De3a4b989d7f7 >=20 > which was from: >=20 > committer Olivier Certner 2025-06-18 02:09:29 +0000 >=20 > Yet today when I do commands like (aarch64 example here aarch64): > (Note: amd64 also observed.) >=20 > # pkg search -rFreeBSD-kmods -g '*' > acpi_call-1.0.1.1500043_2 Kernel module for calling ACPI methods from = userspace > devctl-jail-kmod-g20190521.1500043 Module to expose jail lifecycle = events > intel-ixv-kmod-1.5.34.1500043_2 10G FreeBSD Base Driver Virtual = Function for Intel(R) NIC > linux_dvbwrapper-kmod-1.0.1500043_2 Linux compatibility layer - DVB = ioctl handler > mac_nonet-kmod-g20150821.1500043 MAC policy to disable access to = networking for certain group > mac_rtprio-kmod-g20170417.1500043 MAC policy to manage access for = setting realtime priorities by GID > mbgtools-f.1.0.0.1500043_1 Drivers and tools for Meinberg PTP/GPS = cards > ng_mikrotik_eoip-1.0.1500043 Netgraph node for Mikrotik EoIP tunneling > open-vm-kmod-12.5.0.1500043,2 Open VMware kernel modules for FreeBSD = VMware guests > openzfs-kmod-2.3.2.1500043,1 OpenZFS kernel module for FreeBSD > . . . >=20 > So: 1500043 based, not 1500048 based. >=20 > For reference: > 150043 started: committer Lexi Winter 2025-05-15 = 00:02:52 +0000 > 150044 started: committer Konstantin Belousov = 2025-05-28 11:11:23 +0000 >=20 > So: over 3 weeks ago. (The detailed timing depends on that pkg 2.1+ > is still in use in the ampere* based ports-package builds for the > aarch64 context. They will eventually get to pkg 2.2+ .) >=20 > That means it looks like the PkgBase builds for main are not > building a FreeBSD-kmods that is a match to any of the kernel > from main's PkgBase build. Instead, it looks to be providing > whatever the ports-package builders have built. For main, that > will frequently not match any of the PkgBase kernels built. >=20 > SIDE QUESTION: main has multiple kernels available but only one > FreeBSD-kmods (instead of one per kernel). Which kernel is > FreeBSD-kmods supposed to match? What happens if/when a > different one of those kernels is used instead? >=20 > As near as I can tell, unless the kmods are built to match the > intended PkgBase kernel, FreeBSD-kmods would best be avoided > (disabled) for main and handled separately. >=20 >=20 > NOTE: I've not checked any context but main. But it may well > be that 14.3-STABLE's PkgBase has some similar issues to what > main has. I got an aarch64 booted with a 14.3-STABLE PkgBase installation (somewhat older, but after 14.3-STABLE). # uname -apKU FreeBSD official-PkgBase 14.3-STABLE FreeBSD 14.3-STABLE = stable/14-n271679-d752f91d7f0a GENERIC arm64 aarch64 1403502 1403502 So: 1403502 has been in place for some time. # pkg repositories FreeBSD: {=20 url : = "http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:14:aarch64/latest", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } FreeBSD-kmods: {=20 url : = "http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:14:aarch64/kmods_latest", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } FreeBSD-base: {=20 url : = "pkg+https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:14:aarch64/base_latest", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } # pkg search -rFreeBSD-kmods -g '*' acpi_call-1.0.1.1403501_2 Kernel module for calling ACPI methods = from userspace devctl-jail-kmod-g20190521.1403501 Module to expose jail lifecycle = events hammer2-1.2.9.1403501 HAMMER2 file system for FreeBSD = (experimental write support) intel-em-kmod-7.7.8.1403501 Gigabit FreeBSD Base Drivers for Intel(R) = Ethernet intel-ice-kmod-1.38.16.1403501_2 Intel=C2=AE Network Adapter Driver for = E810 Series Devices intel-igb-kmod-2.5.28.1403501 NIC Driver for Intel(R) 82575/6 and = 82580-Based cards intel-ix-kmod-3.3.35.1403501_2 10 gigabit FreeBSD Base Driver for = Intel(R) Network Connections intel-ixl-kmod-1.13.4.1403501_2 40 gigabit FreeBSD Base Driver for = Intel(R) Network Connections intel-ixv-kmod-1.5.34.1403501_2 10G FreeBSD Base Driver Virtual Function = for Intel(R) NIC linux_dvbwrapper-kmod-1.0.1403501_2 Linux compatibility layer - DVB = ioctl handler mac_nonet-kmod-g20150821.1403501 MAC policy to disable access to = networking for certain group mac_rtprio-kmod-g20170417.1403501 MAC policy to manage access for = setting realtime priorities by GID mbgtools-f.1.0.0.1403501_1 Drivers and tools for Meinberg PTP/GPS = cards ndproxy-3.2.1403501_1 Implementation of IPv6 Neighbor Discovery = proxy ng_mikrotik_eoip-1.0.1403501 Netgraph node for Mikrotik EoIP tunneling open-vm-kmod-12.5.0.1403501,2 Open VMware kernel modules for FreeBSD = VMware guests openzfs-kmod-2.3.2.1403501,1 OpenZFS kernel module for FreeBSD parallels-tools-0.1.2.1403501_1 Parallels Desktop Tools for FreeBSD plasma-kmod-0.1.1403501_4 Plasma-effect screensaver kernel module pwcbsd-1.4.1.1403501_15 The Linux pwc webcam driver ported to = FreeBSD quantis-kmod-v18.03.08.1403501 Kernel driver for Quantis PCI/PCIe random = number generator realtek-re-kmod-1100.00.1403501_1 Kernel driver for Realtek PCIe = Ethernet Controllers realtek-re-kmod198-198.00.1403501 Kernel driver for Realtek PCIe = Ethernet Controllers sysctlbyname-improved-kmod-20221211.1403501 Internal sysctl object to = implement an improved sysctlbyname(3) sysctlinfo-kmod-20221211.1403501_1 Kernel sysctl MIB-Tree interface uarduno-1.02.1403501_1 FreeBSD Kernel Driver for the Arduino Uno = USB interface utouch-kmod-0.0.5.1403501 Kernel driver for absolute USB HID mice vether-kmod-g20211214.1403501_1 Virtual Ethernet Interface wifi-firmware-ath10k-kmod-20240513.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = ath10k (ath10k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-ath11k-kmod-20240513.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = ath11k (ath11k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-ath12k-kmod-20240513.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = ath12k (ath12k) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-iwlwifi-kmod-20241017.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = iwlwifi (iwlwifi) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-mt76-kmod-20240513.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the mt76 = (mt76) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-mt7601u-kmod-20241017.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = mt7601u (mt7601u) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-rtw88-kmod-20241017.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = rtw88 (rtw88) WiFi NIC driver wifi-firmware-rtw89-kmod-20241017.1403501_2 Firmware modules for the = rtw89 (rtw89) WiFi NIC driver So: 1403501 based kmods, not 1403502 based. Again not matching any kernel's built by PkgBase for the installation/update that would be done now (for 14.3-STABLE this time). It would seem that when FreeBSD-kmods does not match the intended kernel, it should be avoided/disabled, much like for main. (At least for the likes of 14.3-STABLE, it likely updates less often than main and a smaller fraction might be breaking changes. So an asctually-valid combination would likely be possible for a higher fraction of the overall time.) Which kernel should it track? There is more than one kernel to pick from for 14.3-STABLE: # pkg search -rFreeBSD-base -g '*kernel*' | grep -v '\-dbg-' FreeBSD-kernel-generic-14.snap20250625092520 FreeBSD GENERIC kernel=20 FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-14.snap20250625092520 FreeBSD = GENERIC-MMCCAM kernel=20 (The names do not identify the 1403502 status, which is unfortunate for the purpose here.) The 2 kernels conflict on dtb files and so cannot both be installed. But amd64 might allow both to be installed, there being no *.dtb files involved. What should happen when the other kernel is picked? I'll note that 14.3-RELEASE patching may be unlikely to have such issues and certainly happens less often overall. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I ran ./pkgbasify.lua --force then pkg upgrade -fy Is the resulting downgrade of interest? Lines 7443 to 7835 of the attached file. Snippets: Installed packages to be DOWNGRADED:     FreeBSD-acct: 15.snap20250623040706 -> 15.snap20250618023730 [FreeBSD-base] Number of packages to be reinstalled: 180 Number of packages to be downgraded: 207 ---- The first edition of this email was sent, but neither rejected nor archived. I'm resending without the attachment. --------------jmmi3ZwNCirr83ECkht9d6BB Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I ran 
./pkgbasify.lua --force
then
pkg upgrade -fy

Is the resulting downgrade of interest?

Lines 7443 to 7835 of the attached file. Snippets: 


Installed packages to be DOWNGRADED:
    FreeBSD-acct: 15.snap20250623040706 -> 15.snap20250618023730 [FreeBSD-base]


Number of packages to be reinstalled: 180
Number of packages to be downgraded: 207

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XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:151847, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:AU]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dch]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org,freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[skunkwerks.at:+,messagingengine.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bV8gW1HBTz3HG4 X-Spamd-Bar: - I'm very excited about pkgbase, but also stuck on how this -B flag should work. The objective is to use official pkgbase packages, to build poudriere images, that can be deployed directly to new systems, with overlay. First step is to make a jail, that uses pkgbase! https://man.freebsd.org/poudriere-jail says: -B Build the pkgbase set (for use with -b or -m git/svn/...) -m method Specify which method to use to create the jail -b Build the source provided with the -m src=path option. This would seem to be sufficient to "Build the pkgbase set" poudriere jail -c -j 14_3_x64 -v 14.3-RELEASE -B -K GENERIC But this fails after some time: ``` Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 14.3-RELEASE-p0. 14.3-RELEASE [00:04:38] Recording filesystem state for clean... done Error: (94492) [:update_pkgbase:1501: -gt: unexpected operator [00:04:38] Starting make update-packages env: -C: No such file or directory [00:04:38] Error: /usr/local/share/poudriere/jail.sh:update_pkgbase:30:Failed to 'make update-packages' [00:04:38] Error while creating jail, cleaning up. [00:04:38] Removing 14_3_x64 jail... done ``` This is because JAIL_OSVERSION isn't set. Elsewhere this is done via `setup_build_env` so https://github.com/skunkwerks/poudriere/commit/5ca24f3 got me further, but still no success, so I reverted it. I tried again after doing a traditional pkgbase build from sources (make with buildworld, kernel, packages, update-packages) with CURRENT: # poudriere jail -c -j current_x64 -B -b -v 15 -K GENERIC-NODEBUG -m pkgbase=latest -U file:///var/www/pkgbase Which created a jail, but again - no base system packages to be found. The jail is indeed a pkg base jail, at lest. I reverted that, and then tried a 14.3 build from sources: poudriere jail -c -j 14_3_x64 -v 14.3-RELEASE -B -K GENERIC -b -m src=/projects/freebsd/fourteen This also fails, during `make create kernel-packages`: ... 1.77 real 1.54 user 1.07 sys -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Installing everything completed on Sun Jun 29 00:01:12 UTC 2025 -------------------------------------------------------------- 11.82 real 32.96 user 32.53 sys --- _repodir --- --- create-packages-world --- --- create-packages-kernel --- --- create-packages-source --- --- create-packages-world --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended --- create-packages-source --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended --- create-packages-kernel --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended --- create-packages-world --- --- create-world-packages --- --- create-packages-kernel --- make[4]: don't know how to make create-kernel-packages. Stop make[4]: stopped making "create-kernel-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src *** [create-packages-kernel] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped making "real-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src --- create-packages-source --- *** [create-packages-source] Error code 6 make[3]: stopped making "real-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src --- create-packages-world --- pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended *** [create-world-packages] Error code 6 make[4]: stopped making "create-world-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src make[4]: 1 error make[4]: stopped making "create-world-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src *** [create-packages-world] Error code 2 make[3]: stopped making "real-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src make[3]: 3 errors make[3]: stopped making "real-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src make[2]: stopped making "real-packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src *** [packages] Error code 2 make[1]: stopped making "packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src make[1]: 1 error make[1]: stopped making "packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src make: stopped making "packages" in /usr/local/poudriere/jails/14_3_x64/usr/src [00:28:09] Error: /usr/local/share/poudriere/jail.sh:build_pkgbase:15:Failed to 'make packages' [00:28:09] Error while creating jail, cleaning up. [00:28:09] Removing 14_3_x64 jail... done Is it possible to use poudriere to build pkgbase packages, for 14.3-RELEASE? I was unable to get even the jail built, let alone create packages. A+ Dave