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After reboot I want to see what PKGBASE packages are installed (and maybe remove some of them) but I am not able to because pkg(8) is not bootstrapped ... why? This is OFFLINE installation. These are bad defaults. root@A2:~ # pkg info The package management tool is not yet installed on your system. Do you want to fetch and install it now? 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Data: 2025-09-17 0:23 Nadawca: "Colin Percival" <cperciva@tarsnap.com> Adresat: "vermaden" <vermaden@interia.pl>; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org; >> On 9/16/25 15:16, vermaden wrote: >> I just made an 'offline' installation of FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA2 with these options selected: >> - Use PKGBASE. >> - Do 'Offline' install. >> - Auto ZFS with Partition Scheme: GPT (BIOS+UEFI) >> - Add '+lib32' to wanted sets. >> >> After reboot I want to see what PKGBASE packages are installed (and maybe remove some of them) but I am not able to because pkg(8) is not bootstrapped ... why? This is OFFLINE installation. These are bad defaults. >> >> root@A2:~ # pkg info >> The package management tool is not yet installed on your system. >> Do you want to fetch and install it now? [y/N]: > > I'm planning on adding pkg to the pkgbase repository on disc1 and dvd1. Thanks. > -- > Colin Percival > FreeBSD Release Engineering Lead & EC2 platform maintainer > Founder, Tarsnap | www.tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid From nobody Tue Sep 16 23:11:03 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cRHhL123Qz67mCB; Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo75.interia.pl (smtpo75.interia.pl [217.74.67.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cRHhK3q3rz3qSP; Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 01:11:03 +0200 From: vermaden Subject: Re: Why pkg(8) is NOT bootstrapped in PKGBASE install by default? 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Regards, vermaden Temat: Re: Why pkg(8) is NOT bootstrapped in PKGBASE install by default? Data: 2025-09-17 0:49 Nadawca: "Sulev-Madis Silber" <freebsd-stable-freebsd-org730@ketas.si.pri.ee> Adresat: stable@freebsd.org; > memstick too i hope? > > or any installer which contains pkgbase? > > or perhaps any installer? > > i don't get why this decision was made. you can always upgrade pkg. > but what if it's truly offline? > > i never understood why pkg is not in base. after all that's like most > important tool ever. especially now > > yeah, everyone can take src and build whatever installer they want > but hell with those defaults > > only reason here is that pkg should always be latest and can't in > some cases be upgraded? > > at least give me reasons i can disagree with! 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On 17/09/2025 01:41, Mark Millard wrote: > ... 15.0-PRERELEASE > materials. (So far?) They might not match up with > DEBUG kernels or other changes after PRERELEASE > finished. Mixing 1500063 with 1600000, condensed: . Short-term. For fun. Not a recommendation to mix things -- the pkgbase major upgrade from 15 to 16 was, primarily, to test a workaround for the segfault in issue 2475,  | . Apoplexy at the potential consequences of mixing may be offset by amusement at my newfound login skills: . 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289368 Dave Cottlehuber changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|In Progress |Closed Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #11 from Dave Cottlehuber --- thanks Graham, this should now be fixed after MFC. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID aff30539990ba3036e5e750a84a508d5; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 15:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: git: 66f36c368676 - main - packages: Add meta-package sets [ a pkgbase poudriere jail creation got a populated /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-amd64/usr/src/ ], not just sys/ From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 08:04:52 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99.ref@yahoo.com> <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.969]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.30:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.30:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cRhs42TZ4z3NvZ On Sep 14, 2025, at 09:04, Lexi Winter wrote: > Mark Millard: >> Lexi Winter wrote on >>> packages: Add meta-package sets >> [poudriere installs more packages than before] > > sorry. however, this is something poudriere should be able to fix quite > easily by adjusting which packages they install. for example, they > could install the 'FreeBSD-set-base' set to get the entire base system, > then add FreeBSD-src-* if required (i believe some ports need this). > > please file a PR against poudriere for that. Status update: The split out of FreeBSD-set-src and FreeBSD-set-tests partially fixed the overall issue without changes to poudriere(-devel). One thing that is now worse for poudriere(devel) jails is that the bundling of man pages with -dev means that such man pages are installed in all poudriere(-devel) jails during creation. poudreire(-devel) definitely does need -dev but does not need the related man pages. poudriere(-devel) does not not yet filter out FreeBSD-set-kernels-* as the plural form is not matched by poudriere(-devel)'s filtering: grep -vE -- '-man|-dbg|-kernel-|-tests|-src-' So, as stands, the individual kernel packages are filtered out but the FreeBSD-set-kernels-* is not filtered out, causing the kernels to end up being installed into the jail. Note: poudriere(-devel) handles installing FreeBSD-src-sys separately. >> NOTE: FreeBSD-kernel-16.snap20250911200332 turns out to be the man pages >> under: /usr/share/man/man[49]/ > > this is a regression caused by a8a18eeb5e17 which disabled MANSPLITPKG > by default. this package is meant to be called "FreeBSD-kernel-man" and > there should not be any "FreeBSD-kernel" package at all. i'll look at a > fix for this. the contents of the package should be correct, though. Confirmed for my (non-poudriere jail) main 16 updates: FreeBSD-kernel-man is now in place instead of FreeBSD-kernel . === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Wed Sep 17 15:32:14 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cRjSN4FfDz67bB9 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 15:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cRjSN3Q34z3TYt; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 15:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; 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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YmSrObFQCLyxJQKc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: --YmSrObFQCLyxJQKc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Millard wrote in : > One thing that is now worse for poudriere(devel) jails is that the > bundling of man pages with -dev means that such man pages are installed > in all poudriere(-devel) jails during creation. poudreire(-devel) > definitely does need -dev but does not need the related man pages. we decided to disable MANSPLITPKG by default because it's annoying for users having to install manpages by hand for every package, and because they're very small: for FreeBSD-set-base (excluding lib32) the installed size is 815MB, of which 8MB (i.e., 1%) are manpages. if you really don't want to install manpages, you can rebuild world with WITH_MANSPLITPKG=3D1, or you can tell pkg(8) not to install manpages: # pkg -r /my/jail -o FILES_IGNORE_GLOB=3D'/usr/share/man/*' install freebsd= -set-base it might be worth poudriere doing that by default, i don't really have any strong opinion there. > poudriere(-devel) does not not yet filter out FreeBSD-set-kernels-*=20 > as the plural form is not matched by poudriere(-devel)'s filtering: >=20 > grep -vE -- '-man|-dbg|-kernel-|-tests|-src-' >=20 > So, as stands, the individual kernel packages are filtered out but > the FreeBSD-set-kernels-* is not filtered out, causing the kernels > to end up being installed into the jail. the simplest solution here would be for poudriere to just install FreeBSD-set-base, which does not include any kernels. it may also need FreeBSD-set-lib32, i'm not sure if any ports need that to build. we may be adding a FreeBSD-set-base-jail later which will exclude things only required for physical hosts (like dhclient and WPA) but the actual size difference between that and set-base will probably be fairly small. --YmSrObFQCLyxJQKc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3799be9fe91a360d112d3b9f0bc5b30f; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: git: 66f36c368676 - main - packages: Add meta-package sets [ a pkgbase poudriere jail creation got a populated /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-amd64/usr/src/ ], not just sys/ From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 09:14:55 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <45E58CE3-82C0-4261-AC9D-6AB82E77AA7F@yahoo.com> References: <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99.ref@yahoo.com> <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.52 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.52)[-0.521]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.147:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.147:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cRkPx2Bvwz3dFd On Sep 17, 2025, at 08:04, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 14, 2025, at 09:04, Lexi Winter wrote: >=20 >> Mark Millard: >>> Lexi Winter wrote on >>>> packages: Add meta-package sets >>> [poudriere installs more packages than before] >>=20 >> sorry. however, this is something poudriere should be able to fix = quite >> easily by adjusting which packages they install. for example, they >> could install the 'FreeBSD-set-base' set to get the entire base = system, >> then add FreeBSD-src-* if required (i believe some ports need this). >>=20 >> please file a PR against poudriere for that. >=20 > Status update: >=20 > The split out of FreeBSD-set-src and FreeBSD-set-tests partially fixed > the overall issue without changes to poudriere(-devel). My note about FreeBSD-set-tests was incomplete relative to tests overall, it appears: # pkg-static -c /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-aarch64 info | grep = tests- pkg-static: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended FreeBSD-tests-16.snap20250917014314 Test Suite FreeBSD-tests-dev-16.snap20250916002513 Test Suite (development files) > One thing that is now worse for poudriere(devel) jails is that the > bundling of man pages with -dev means that such man pages are = installed > in all poudriere(-devel) jails during creation. poudreire(-devel) > definitely does need -dev but does not need the related man pages. I'll note that I'm trying to report differences in what is installed in poudiere(-devel) jails that used to not be. I'm just trying to avoid unnoticed additions from being implicitly accepted. I'm not objecting if the overall choice ends up being that some of the additions are okay to leave in place. (I might be surprised in some cases, but that is not the same as trying to require a lack of surprise.) As far as the choices go, it appears to me that such is between Byran D. Baptiste D., you, and possibly others. > poudriere(-devel) does not not yet filter out FreeBSD-set-kernels-*=20 > as the plural form is not matched by poudriere(-devel)'s filtering: >=20 > grep -vE -- '-man|-dbg|-kernel-|-tests|-src-' >=20 > So, as stands, the individual kernel packages are filtered out but > the FreeBSD-set-kernels-* is not filtered out, causing the kernels > to end up being installed into the jail. >=20 > Note: poudriere(-devel) handles installing FreeBSD-src-sys > separately. >=20 >>> NOTE: FreeBSD-kernel-16.snap20250911200332 turns out to be the man = pages >>> under: /usr/share/man/man[49]/ >>=20 >> this is a regression caused by a8a18eeb5e17 which disabled = MANSPLITPKG >> by default. this package is meant to be called "FreeBSD-kernel-man" = and >> there should not be any "FreeBSD-kernel" package at all. i'll look = at a >> fix for this. the contents of the package should be correct, though. >=20 > Confirmed for my (non-poudriere jail) main 16 updates: = FreeBSD-kernel-man > is now in place instead of FreeBSD-kernel . =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Wed Sep 17 16:35:35 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cRksk375rz67gSy for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic303-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic303-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.64.205]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cRksk1Y7gz3f9N for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1758126948; bh=q90UG9HHo3m6mZh0xIWlMo+v94pHI4IDIA9sFNRbyMc=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=Ba+x+pfzNN+M6fCKhrvjIXeLnnWI/pSRADD3vtEKg9mbcrniD6QMOL10F4O0xCMBpylXfoiHy72X5k6xyi1ijle9tPcLuDUPnSvpKik3lKRcfE26TRHqM6PulQQ+Fo49LivwJXXtL6LiPnIgAzmWTUbPg1wXssY8girTi2nE9c1nAv0OBOV4fuxjUbiboGJaXhdHPG6WaENrDNj7CdWmU+BsmNarF7ND+jBMI3OV1j0JjNxCp/e4BII/ixnV4neFuV6QY4+55IokEJajyJxt/c/7mh9wqQD04lH+9tip0O7C3jCGRo1nmWvTWbBhXhKE3exp8AX2o6KqgloTqWYh+Q== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1758126948; bh=fLuoymcVo6b3PlMkBLH0umW9k0E0UUWMQsaoS3qqJlC=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Subject:From:Date:To:From:Subject; b=Kulov5fyPTtSkV6wLlKNlALTsgDVML2lJZ7dSXmwovCLAyCwN0x2vlckWxJowEgvc9AkuXhNHxb062KE5i9E5/albjNPJ1kXRoBK9NXWK7AFi6RXYaKWe4QYWFobX/xsINdy9WEUiwcSFWPGPPFnlMhX5jEzTZlF/b35p9mGYZ8n+8xhDSdtJ9PeXfMruiYH2uZzoXvCKDKwkoF6QxZT9eFoFpz3Pd6/umdruEWFCItiUMzeLEHzKNaEErWtUyWTRfzqNwnHXg2k+nhWJ4cmlBA3s5vpqEzru648QuptwVW4u9jgNmahf/whOouuNqmHJoSR94N4Wfq8XOkmKX3sbQ== X-YMail-OSG: Z30rN44VM1mMwtyfjN9RH8uKR5WxDlyo7pdo0lx6yo8YI2cYUxPLpbwB2RzmOIY i2u5hmmaltdkyvd8CVH9F.0Csercko0EpZg.DVvCzY584xnfYL4d_oeVdvxs8z.3.0ALKCSlia_M oA6gC7dp8HtiKxumH4gXj2d_lqPDqTU5U8PzC13yxLZw7UIGM.uc_qDnznJgC_kCQuEyeNeV5eVk t2CQFvn7E5EWm5p5F3EbSDCTHve9cFBgDw59y8U_qG.MIRGrQ3eFlLliyO9X4UDCRtP1ZRFvldOE qijyt0.ULLd0LHEkz1RL_u8mXnL3MZbnYKBUnSIXsxASkB2NP_JXyICQUz2LAegkHFNxF_wtXRyv b.Ak5R8TTIxn4v12olSQ1sZFRuZ5uGqKrYOfi.7tgR4w1lQ44P1YRiUuLSRCmcNsaGjfqPIZDlRA O_Zsr2XEXXajHIE2t5gIVN4ESZ1tDWtmtejyA3XIa2p6hOWpm2FMiwMAbOM1iFMEKQT4IFEnxXZ. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID cfbdc0f279d6679f29672b46c659611a; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: git: 66f36c368676 - main - packages: Add meta-package sets [ a pkgbase poudriere jail creation got a populated /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-amd64/usr/src/ ], not just sys/ From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 09:35:35 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99.ref@yahoo.com> <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cRksk1Y7gz3f9N On Sep 17, 2025, at 08:32, Lexi Winter wrote: > Mark Millard wrote in = : >> One thing that is now worse for poudriere(devel) jails is that the >> bundling of man pages with -dev means that such man pages are = installed >> in all poudriere(-devel) jails during creation. poudreire(-devel) >> definitely does need -dev but does not need the related man pages. >=20 > we decided to disable MANSPLITPKG by default because it's annoying for > users having to install manpages by hand for every package, and = because > they're very small: for FreeBSD-set-base (excluding lib32) the = installed > size is 815MB, of which 8MB (i.e., 1%) are manpages. I'll note that I'm trying to report differences in what is installed in poudiere(-devel) jails that used to not be. I'm just trying to avoid unnoticed additions from being implicitly accepted/installed. I'm not objecting if the overall choice ends up being that some of the additions are okay to leave in place. (I might be surprised in various cases, but that is not the same as trying to require a lack of surprise.) As far as the choices go, it appears to me that such is between Byran D., Baptiste D., you, and possibly others. Not me. > if you really don't want to install manpages, you can rebuild world = with > WITH_MANSPLITPKG=3D1, or you can tell pkg(8) not to install manpages: >=20 > # pkg -r /my/jail -o FILES_IGNORE_GLOB=3D'/usr/share/man/*' install = freebsd-set-base >=20 > it might be worth poudriere doing that by default, i don't really have > any strong opinion there. I'm not going to object to what Byran D., Baptiste D., you, and possibly others end up choosing for the tradeoffs: if they are noticed, considered, and left in place in a way that I know was an explicit choice across those folks, I'm not going to be trying override such. If I can not tell that an explicit choice was made across that set of folks for some type of addition, then I'm likely to report the change in behavior for consideration (if I noticed it, anyway). >> poudriere(-devel) does not not yet filter out FreeBSD-set-kernels-*=20= >> as the plural form is not matched by poudriere(-devel)'s filtering: >>=20 >> grep -vE -- '-man|-dbg|-kernel-|-tests|-src-' >>=20 >> So, as stands, the individual kernel packages are filtered out but >> the FreeBSD-set-kernels-* is not filtered out, causing the kernels >> to end up being installed into the jail. >=20 > the simplest solution here would be for poudriere to just install > FreeBSD-set-base, which does not include any kernels. it may also > need FreeBSD-set-lib32, i'm not sure if any ports need that to build. >=20 > we may be adding a FreeBSD-set-base-jail later which will exclude = things > only required for physical hosts (like dhclient and WPA) but the = actual > size difference between that and set-base will probably be fairly = small. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 13b72eda74d1b3b035a862c434701f8a; Wed, 17 Sep 2025 17:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: git: 66f36c368676 - main - packages: Add meta-package sets [ a pkgbase poudriere jail creation got a populated /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-amd64/usr/src/ ], not just sys/ From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <45E58CE3-82C0-4261-AC9D-6AB82E77AA7F@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 10:17:04 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99.ref@yahoo.com> <7C39A648-EFF8-4195-9979-D740C8A86F99@yahoo.com> <45E58CE3-82C0-4261-AC9D-6AB82E77AA7F@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.205:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.205:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cRlnb3hzLz3mpl On Sep 17, 2025, at 09:14, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 17, 2025, at 08:04, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 >> On Sep 14, 2025, at 09:04, Lexi Winter wrote: >>=20 >>> Mark Millard: >>>> Lexi Winter wrote on >>>>> packages: Add meta-package sets >>>> [poudriere installs more packages than before] >>>=20 >>> sorry. however, this is something poudriere should be able to fix = quite >>> easily by adjusting which packages they install. for example, they >>> could install the 'FreeBSD-set-base' set to get the entire base = system, >>> then add FreeBSD-src-* if required (i believe some ports need this). >>>=20 >>> please file a PR against poudriere for that. >>=20 >> Status update: >>=20 >> The split out of FreeBSD-set-src and FreeBSD-set-tests partially = fixed >> the overall issue without changes to poudriere(-devel). >=20 > My note about FreeBSD-set-tests was incomplete relative to tests > overall, it appears: >=20 > # pkg-static -c /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-aarch64 info | grep = tests- > pkg-static: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > FreeBSD-tests-16.snap20250917014314 Test Suite > FreeBSD-tests-dev-16.snap20250916002513 Test Suite (development files) Turns out that the split out of FreeBSD-set-tests is not completely the case (but FreeBSD-set-src was completely the case): FreeBSD-set-devel requires FreeBSD-tests-dev , which, in turn requires FreeBSD-tests . . . # pkg-static -c /usr/local/poudriere/jails/main-armv7 info -r -g = 'FreeBSD-tests*' pkg-static: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended FreeBSD-tests-16.snap20250917013424: FreeBSD-tests-dev-16.snap20250916000217 FreeBSD-tests-dev-16.snap20250916000217 (libprivateatf-c.so.1) FreeBSD-tests-dev-16.snap20250916000217 (libval2.so.0) FreeBSD-tests-dev-16.snap20250916000217: FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250912211618 As stands, poudriere(-devel) is including FreeBSD-set-devel . Again, this may be judged to be fine overall, even though there is a FreeBSD-set-tests as well. I'm just noting the change in poudreire(-devel) jail creation results so that (more) accidental additions are avoided and that (most) additions have been explicitly chosen. I have been adding notes to: https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/issues/1247 as well. >> One thing that is now worse for poudriere(devel) jails is that the >> bundling of man pages with -dev means that such man pages are = installed >> in all poudriere(-devel) jails during creation. poudreire(-devel) >> definitely does need -dev but does not need the related man pages. >=20 > I'll note that I'm trying to report differences in what is > installed in poudiere(-devel) jails that used to not be. > I'm just trying to avoid unnoticed additions from being > implicitly accepted. >=20 > I'm not objecting if the overall choice ends up being that > some of the additions are okay to leave in place. (I > might be surprised in some cases, but that is not the same > as trying to require a lack of surprise.) >=20 > As far as the choices go, it appears to me that such is > between Byran D. Baptiste D., you, and possibly others. >=20 >> poudriere(-devel) does not not yet filter out FreeBSD-set-kernels-*=20= >> as the plural form is not matched by poudriere(-devel)'s filtering: >>=20 >> grep -vE -- '-man|-dbg|-kernel-|-tests|-src-' >>=20 >> So, as stands, the individual kernel packages are filtered out but >> the FreeBSD-set-kernels-* is not filtered out, causing the kernels >> to end up being installed into the jail. >>=20 >> Note: poudriere(-devel) handles installing FreeBSD-src-sys >> separately. >>=20 >>>> NOTE: FreeBSD-kernel-16.snap20250911200332 turns out to be the man = pages >>>> under: /usr/share/man/man[49]/ >>>=20 >>> this is a regression caused by a8a18eeb5e17 which disabled = MANSPLITPKG >>> by default. this package is meant to be called "FreeBSD-kernel-man" = and >>> there should not be any "FreeBSD-kernel" package at all. i'll look = at a >>> fix for this. the contents of the package should be correct, = though. >>=20 >> Confirmed for my (non-poudriere jail) main 16 updates: = FreeBSD-kernel-man >> is now in place instead of FreeBSD-kernel . >=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Wed Sep 17 19:00:08 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cRp4F1wz2z67t3S for ; 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Lazily worked around by (wastefully) installing all base packages, after which pkg-which(8) discovered FreeBSD-bsdconfig: I'm aware of the work on sets. Does that work negate the need to address what's above? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 77037831fb7bc4f71258207686f02afe; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 01:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: FYI: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ has been updated with 15.0-ALPHA2 *.pkg files From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <255AF41C-DE96-4F55-9C29-20ED8BA15910@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 18:03:17 -0700 Cc: lukas.engelhardt@gmx.de, grahamperrin@gmail.com, FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9B74F1F3-9DCF-4502-88A0-E2D082ECDEBA@yahoo.com> References: <255AF41C-DE96-4F55-9C29-20ED8BA15910@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmx.de,gmail.com,freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cRy7b39y1z3r79 On Sep 16, 2025, at 17:41, Mark Millard wrote: > FYI: >=20 > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ >=20 > has been updated with 15.0-ALPHA2 *.pkg files. >=20 > (So previously I misinterpreted what bapt had written > earlier about what would be distributed there. Sorry.) >=20 > *.pkg path/file names for 15.0-ALPHA2 look like, for > example: >=20 > = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-src-sys-15.0.= a2.20250916030728.pkg >=20 > (So previously I misinterpreted what bapt had written > earlier about what would be distributed there. Sorry.) >=20 > By contrast, all of: >=20 > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_weekly/ > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/kmods_latest/ [Note: The above do not show updates at this point.] Looks like the following has been updated with the first port-packages are being officially distributed for: building for: FreeBSD 15stable-amd64-default-job-01 15.0-ALPHA2 FreeBSD = 15.0-ALPHA2 1500064 amd64 https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/latest/ is showing new timestamps, such as: 2025-Sep-16 21:55 So 15.0-ALPHA2 shoudl be able to bootstrap into a pkg 2.3.1 official build. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e70830ff376dddc7c8d10b535e3ea45e; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 02:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: Re: FYI: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ has been updated with 15.0-ALPHA2 *.pkg files From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <9B74F1F3-9DCF-4502-88A0-E2D082ECDEBA@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 19:55:22 -0700 Cc: lukas.engelhardt@gmx.de, grahamperrin@gmail.com, FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <255AF41C-DE96-4F55-9C29-20ED8BA15910@yahoo.com> <9B74F1F3-9DCF-4502-88A0-E2D082ECDEBA@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.204:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmx.de,gmail.com,freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.204:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cS0cs6tkVz43Nh On Sep 17, 2025, at 18:03, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 16, 2025, at 17:41, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 >> FYI: >>=20 >> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ >>=20 >> has been updated with 15.0-ALPHA2 *.pkg files. >>=20 >> (So previously I misinterpreted what bapt had written >> earlier about what would be distributed there. Sorry.) >>=20 >> *.pkg path/file names for 15.0-ALPHA2 look like, for >> example: >>=20 >> = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-src-sys-15.0.= a2.20250916030728.pkg >>=20 >> (So previously I misinterpreted what bapt had written >> earlier about what would be distributed there. Sorry.) >>=20 >> By contrast, all of: >>=20 >> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_weekly/ >> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/kmods_latest/ >=20 > [Note: The above do not show updates at this point.] >=20 > Looks like the following has been updated with the > first port-packages are being officially distributed > for: >=20 > building for: FreeBSD 15stable-amd64-default-job-01 15.0-ALPHA2 = FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA2 1500064 amd64 >=20 > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/latest/ >=20 > is showing new timestamps, such as: 2025-Sep-16 21:55 > So 15.0-ALPHA2 shoudl be able to bootstrap into > a pkg 2.3.1 official build. >=20 > Also: freshports is showing the pkg 2.3.1 based > build for FreeBSD:15:latest with a repo build date > 2025-09-16 20:57 (UTC). Freshport's import is > listed as at 2025-09-18 00:00 UTC, so about an > hour ago as I write this. >=20 > aarch64, armv7, the various powerpc* are showing > older main 15 builds, such as PREPRELEASE ones. >=20 > Previously: >> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/latest/ >>=20 >> still look to be populated with 15.0-PRERELEASE >> materials. (So far?) They might not match up with >> DEBUG kernels or other changes after PRERELEASE >> finished. Looks like 15stable-amd64-default (latest) is going to be continuing to be updated via beefy17 until it becomes based on a releng/15.0 build instead of a stable/15 build. 15stable-amd64-default started an update, queuing 7587 port-packages for building. (Compared to 37060 queued for the previous run, which completed 36239 that it built in 91:27:10 .) 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6cdd05e474dd2d0f263d17271b9f2e88; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 03:44:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Millard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3826.700.81\)) Subject: An idea for some future point : provide for FreeBSD-kernel-generic-debug installs to help debug 15.?-RELEASE problems without software builds Message-Id: <04605C89-2F7E-410C-862B-B7FEDD5E6A93@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 20:44:03 -0700 To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <04605C89-2F7E-410C-862B-B7FEDD5E6A93.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.84:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.84:from]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cS1hw33Mfz48sv [I well realize the the below idea does not fit with the 15.0-RELEASE schedule. I'm thinking longer term.] https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ has *.pkg for various kernels, one also in some *.iso and *.img distributions, here showing ALPHA2 notation, just for illustration: FreeBSD-kernel-generic-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-generic-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg Note: The above pair is in the likes of *boot1.iso* *dvd1.iso* and *memstick.img* . The below 2 pairs are not. FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-generic-mmccam-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-minimal-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg The idea is to at some point start to enable users gathering debug information to some degree using a pre-built pkgbase GENERIC-DEBUG kernel that they could pkg install and then use via a reboot: FreeBSD-kernel-generic-debug-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg FreeBSD-kernel-generic-debug-dbg-15.0.a2.2025*.pkg ( Based on same /usr/src/sy/s and /usr/src/ code as the matching: FreeBSD-kernel-generic{,-dbg} .) Thus it would not be necessary for someone to build a kernel.GENERIC-DEBUG kernel to see if such a kernel would report something interesting related to some problem that was happening. 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Does that work negate the need to address > what's above? bsdconfig is in the base set, so in a hypothetical world where 14.x supported sets, it would only be automatically installed on upgrade if you had the base set installed. for 15.x, the base set will be offered as an option in the installer, but it remains to be seen if users will prefer to install that or to only install the minimal set and add packages themselves. 14 to 15 is a bit of a special case here because 14.x with pkgbase was never a supported configuration, so a few rough edges when upgrading are expected. this is why i tried to get all of these package splits done prior to the 15.0 release, where pkgbase *is* a supported configuration (and i think we've been largely successful there). how we approach new packages after 15.0 is released will depend on each specific case, but to speculate a bit: - i think we'll try to avoid moving existing files to new packages in the stable/15 release cycle, unless there's a very clear benefit to doing so, and even then probably only if it's included in the minimal set which (nearly) all users will have installed. this means you can upgrade across 15.x releases and not have to worry about this. however, we might add new packages for new functionality, so for example if 15.1 imported KDE into the base system[0], we'd add a new FreeBSD-kde package for that. in that case the new package(s) would be mentioned in the release notes for 15.1, and would be part of the appropriate set (probably base). this is reasonable because people expect that adding new functionality requires installing new packages, and for people who don't want to deal with that, they can simply install the base set and get everything, just like before. [0] a hypothetical example, obviously we're not planning to do that. - although i don't have any plans to do this, i think we can reasonably move existing files to new packages across a major release, e.g., 15.x to 16.0, even if the new packages aren't in minimal. in that case we'd mention the new packages in the release notes in the expectation that users upgrading to a new major release read the release notes. i would like to see a mechanism in pkg to handle package splits like this, so it would automatically install the new package if you upgrade across the split point, but i'm not sure if that will happen or if it's even worth it considering how infrequently we're likely to do this. --MkpuSFY0CX3FR7KZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaMu8vgAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YB8iAP4tv54rccGQ+zX855tCICWHJVo/VrB3y8diFUZ4MsYb0QEAhCTPMEFtAyjv P4AjVYTcRQtGEaU2RrWvvEaekO4NbQ0= =GaGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MkpuSFY0CX3FR7KZ-- From nobody Thu Sep 18 21:24:24 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cSTDL6mvZz683ry for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 21:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com (mail-wr1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cSTDK1z16z3bdg for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 21:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=EHj4D9FQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::433 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3ef166e625aso60255f8f.2 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1758230666; x=1758835466; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:autocrypt:to:cc :content-language:from:references:subject:user-agent:mime-version :date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=k7XymuPUzDMAGMHj+X54wyPARb7jo39EAdzaS7eoPJw=; b=EHj4D9FQ8vQAH75/6NcXJHUAiEnZXr2Zoj/c7coBRW2Cpg3mw6xOi/5WpsALyTCsQH 0E8OWkyg0SywF08zJgJrUvn6vaWfvJbKTH5BswEbEkQIfBfd0adyi8qWOOt1loOBVJIz zOZP5DzS8RN6ti6LUJB7FIWlRL98RwUBSzZBewwVuuOEzwbAs5JVPntlgTTm5XR9W+Zz jxoTFRrBnPxXlghRV3LGZRAGZlN03RWCXCTAESfjiDaLzwKAnVdAuWip7dJZXQLUKT3G iAZza9DrQejJwxw7L7wRp2mohSx8VW4ghURYlYW1IC+X1mXCzAjbFH8IuuNiTNjI0Ki7 LHbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1758230666; x=1758835466; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:autocrypt:to:cc :content-language:from:references:subject:user-agent:mime-version :date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=k7XymuPUzDMAGMHj+X54wyPARb7jo39EAdzaS7eoPJw=; b=CYS6bQHk5IBpXBxD5uoDfECxlEcQi8qbfkxo6WF+vZzc3X7zwvP77K0BIk3n4x5z0w bLTPDgxGVWQ6gejqa0rbgkJ3qZEl9WXWYxm1fhRCmF/5YiBbEiEzzjy23Y+AtuchzK2r puGEnSFcom87JYHnozwgrqWLZPSdC7G7IuNZxdGcKZ7bcljp2svw4S4k+pn6Y1RZywY7 RAOny3JiSmb1k5O1KMlKjGllXKzWDiCY16XlUgzlmX6sgeM4HsuE8kKeOJmpMwLIO/Jp esecQ+tWGFK/NL5wAo5JvuaF1/3YWyuCm5ldNEtr53I8961CrBknk2ef+5mY7+55diV5 lAMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzZRI3B8+qnROFIs6MKwoP8lse0uUUICKGdEOItV/L5xd8MWVGc jMjbZSNL1kWMLr3JqsY/RyyBfMB30i1ny4DfyWG33beqj6MID46yYY9EicpLwA== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncumrNzsoeEiWDjkrQoRotINBt5QVLkzluYJ3kFYOwCc4IORKRoCqWGVPWfR404 A/RgGagbTtANh2y4kjriIAZMoJE0oOvcTOH+KHICmyj6YF6pRWAHhKJ2L5Ob6VK9DnO6+M0oWYb 5ikLBDx4vssh5l2o8jgaEs46C+TVdT6QECNzpcnpMv8UGgX/KJSKZuGcsrztE+GgcSyXaFRc5+h upDK+hHEZcA48AHpRI/5nx4MC5heKCDk8RgRyyUDOu/BQJhvMSUD2/Enm0mhX+E5LxKhp2SEB1K 4k5a5i9ADZUtDkM7znGOysD5v3Eo46n1D9BKxQ5HxLK/90CMj9ZKaKX1UH6T4JBao+rDXMWsI8P 1xKERVYyy16Su+OXRKGaVHFNGP/f1kyvdJfarucQ+wtqVae9mTg7YjNnkseGWyF4baZuwR0r9+r HIrQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFr0gTjwrcLSQ55WG4sdrAOsns5aZs7lHC7PzzqgVU4s7F57bWP9zgJsQjDI3MGFYB/W2xOWw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:144f:b0:3ed:e1d8:bd68 with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3ee7c552a3dmr519903f8f.7.1758230665889; Thu, 18 Sep 2025 14:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (host-89-241-205-78.as13285.net. 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Without attempting to understand the apparent discrepancy: I'm glad that it's fifty percent complete after twenty hours. Not too long to wait until I can more thoroughly retest a workaround for something. (My usual set of non-base packages, for testing, includes x11/kde.) 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Message-Id: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 20:48:11 -0700 To: Lexi Winter , Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.84:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.84:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cSdlK69jmz3YBm This is a potential bug report, I'm not sure. main 16 context. For reference, using the amd64 example (details are for after updating activity): # uname -apKU FreeBSD 7950X3D-ZFS 16.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 16.0-CURRENT = main-n280461-506b36c4fdde GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 amd64 1600000 1600000 # pkg -v 2.3.1 # file /usr/local/sbin/pkg /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static=20 /usr/local/sbin/pkg: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 = (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1, for = FreeBSD 16.0 (1600000), FreeBSD-style, with debug_info, not stripped /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 = (FreeBSD), statically linked, for FreeBSD 16.0 (1600000), FreeBSD-style, = with debug_info, not stripped (The port=3Dpackages were not updated, including pkg.) I updated both an amd64 system and a aarch64 system today directly with pkg-static commands and the /usr/src/ that resulted for both has: # grep -r vital /usr/src/release/packages/sets/ | sort /usr/src/release/packages/sets/base.ucl:vital =3D true /usr/src/release/packages/sets/devel.ucl:vital =3D true /usr/src/release/packages/sets/lib32.ucl:vital =3D true /usr/src/release/packages/sets/minimal-jail.ucl:vital =3D true /usr/src/release/packages/sets/minimal.ucl:vital =3D true /usr/src/release/packages/sets/src.ucl:vital =3D yes /usr/src/release/packages/sets/tests.ucl:vital =3D yes I fetch separately from updating. I also install booting materials (bootloader files, dtb files if involved, and kernels) and reboot into a new kernel before doing other installs. My updates were via the likes of: # pkg-static install -U -rFreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*' (smaller list for the earlier booting materials install). Afterwards I tried deleting FreeBSD-set-* without force being requested and it reported only 4 as vital and allowed the others to be deleted: # pkg-static del FreeBSD-set-base FreeBSD-set-base-dbg FreeBSD-set-devel = FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg FreeBSD-set-minimal FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg = FreeBSD-set-kernels FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg FreeBSD-set-lib32 = FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail = FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg FreeBSD-set-src FreeBSD-set-tests pkg-static: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) The following package(s) are locked or vital and may not be removed: FreeBSD-set-base FreeBSD-set-devel FreeBSD-set-minimal FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail Deinstallation has been requested for the following 10 packages (of 0 = packages in the universe): Installed packages to be REMOVED: FreeBSD-set-base-dbg: 16.snap20250918100450 FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-kernels: 16.snap20250917214757 FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-lib32: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg: 16.snap20250918100450 FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg: 16.snap20250917214757 FreeBSD-set-src: 16.snap20250916221226 FreeBSD-set-tests: 16.snap20250916221226 Number of packages to be removed: 10 Proceed with deinstalling packages? [y/N]: y [1/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450... [2/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739... [3/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757... [4/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739... [5/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739... [6/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739... [7/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450... [8/10] Deinstalling = FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757... [9/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226... [10/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226... That behavior does not seem to match the (not -dbg) files: /usr/src/release/packages/sets/*.ucl that I reported on earlier above. One possibility might be that some built FreeBSD-set-*.pkg files were not based on the provided /usr/src/ content. I'll note that after the above I did: # pkg-static del -f FreeBSD-set-base FreeBSD-set-base-dbg = FreeBSD-set-devel FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg FreeBSD-set-minimal = FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail = FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg so that no FreeBSD-set-* would be installed. 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Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Mark Millard , Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Lo56gvDHFDKwLISD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> --Lo56gvDHFDKwLISD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Millard wrote in <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com>: > # pkg-static install -U -rFreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*' >=20 > Afterwards I tried deleting FreeBSD-set-* without force > being requested and it reported only 4 as vital and > allowed the others to be deleted: are you able to reproduce this on a clean system (e.g., in a chroot)? if so, the particular sequence of commands that triggers it would be useful to have. also, please show the output of this command on the affected system: pkg info | awk '/^FreeBSD-set-/ { print $1 }' | xargs pkg query '%n %V' i've tested this here and even if FreeBSD-set-src isn't marked as vital prior to the upgrade, it becomes vital after updating, which seems to be the expected behaviour from a quick inspection of the pkg(8) source. --Lo56gvDHFDKwLISD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289654 Mark Johnston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |289698 Status|New |Open CC| |markj@FreeBSD.org Assignee|sysinstall@FreeBSD.org |pkgbase@FreeBSD.org --- Comment #4 from Mark Johnston --- /proc is created by installworld and in the traditional distsets, but not by pkgbase. I'm not sure which package should be responsible for that. 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289654 --- Comment #5 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch main references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Db3468202994f6856c5c49f3365e05f4f8= 017d680 commit b3468202994f6856c5c49f3365e05f4f8017d680 Author: Lexi Winter AuthorDate: 2025-09-19 16:38:24 +0000 Commit: Lexi Winter CommitDate: 2025-09-19 16:39:04 +0000 mtree: Add package tags to some root directories This ensures the normally-empty directories /proc, /net, /media and /mnt are created on a fresh pkgbase install. Put /proc, /mnt and /media in -runtime since those are basic directories that should always exist. /net is only used by the automounter, so put that in -autofs. While here, also tag /rescue in -rescue, since nothing else installs there. Reported by: Graham Perrin PR: 289654 MFC after: 3 days Reviewed by: emaste Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52622 etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist | 10 +++++----- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Sep 19 16:44:17 2025 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cSyyT3rCVz68FsS for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cSyyT3GcQz4FRC for ; 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Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 58JGiHJ2017549 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:44:17 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 58JGiHYR017548 for pkgbase@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:44:17 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 289654] 15.0-ALPHA2 packages: no /proc directory Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:44:17 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: conf X-Bugzilla-Version: 16.0-CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: install, pkgbase X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: commit-hook@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: In Progress X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: ivy@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289654 --- Comment #6 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch stable/15 references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D724972790e8c862dd8f4b42622000cd87= 9392936 commit 724972790e8c862dd8f4b42622000cd879392936 Author: Lexi Winter AuthorDate: 2025-09-19 16:38:24 +0000 Commit: Lexi Winter CommitDate: 2025-09-19 16:42:54 +0000 mtree: Add package tags to some root directories This ensures the normally-empty directories /proc, /net, /media and /mnt are created on a fresh pkgbase install. Put /proc, /mnt and /media in -runtime since those are basic directories that should always exist. /net is only used by the automounter, so put that in -autofs. While here, also tag /rescue in -rescue, since nothing else installs there. After discussion with cperciva, this is being MFC'd early so we can land it in the 15.0-ALPHA3 build. Reported by: Graham Perrin PR: 289654 MFC after: 3 days Reviewed by: emaste Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52622 (cherry picked from commit b3468202994f6856c5c49f3365e05f4f8017d680) etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist | 10 +++++----- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Sep 19 16:45:11 2025 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cSyzX0cjCz68GDr for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cSyzX0977z4FcT for ; 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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 10:18:07 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cSzjv2yDJz4LVc On Sep 19, 2025, at 08:48, Lexi Winter wrote: >=20 > Mark Millard wrote in = <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com>: >> # pkg-static install -U -rFreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*' >>=20 >> Afterwards I tried deleting FreeBSD-set-* without force >> being requested and it reported only 4 as vital and >> allowed the others to be deleted: >=20 > are you able to reproduce this on a clean system (e.g., in a chroot)? > if so, the particular sequence of commands that triggers it would be > useful to have. I think the below means I do not need to do this: the *.pkg files agree with the "only 4" status. > also, please show the output of this command on the affected system: >=20 > pkg info | awk '/^FreeBSD-set-/ { print $1 }' | xargs pkg query '%n = %V' Unfortunately since the deletes happened, the FreeBSD-set-* in question are no longer listed in the info output. Similarly for my later having forcing the delete of the 4 that did report being vital. So, overall: empty output on both systems. But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves agree with the just-4-vitals status: amd64: # find -s /var/cache/pkg/ -name "FreeBSD-set*~*.pkg" -exec pkg info -R = -F {} \; | grep -e name: -e vital: pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended name: "FreeBSD-set-base" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-src" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-tests" aarch64: # find -s /var/cache/pkg/ -name "FreeBSD-set*~*.pkg" -exec pkg info -R = -F {} \; | grep -e name: -e vital: pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended name: "FreeBSD-set-base" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail" vital: true pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-src" pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended }name: "FreeBSD-set-tests" Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is: categories: [ "base" ] annotations: { FreeBSD_version: "1600000" }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" origin: "base" The example also showing the lack of vital: for lib32 is: . . . categories: [ "base" ] annotations: { FreeBSD_version: "1600000" }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32" origin: "base" version: "16.snap20250912212418" comment: "32-bit compatibility libraries (metapackage)" maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" abi: "FreeBSD:16:aarch64" arch: "freebsd:16:aarch64:64" prefix: "/" flatsize: 0 licenselogic: "single" licenses: [ "BSD2CLAUSE" ] desc: "This metapackage installs compatibility libraries required for = building and\nrunning 32-bit applications on a 64-bit host system." . . . (When listed, vital: is the line just before "desc:".) So the problem appears to have been from upstream. For reference, amd64: /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450~c89aadaed9.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450~d584303e89.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450~afeee71eda.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~94132e3b9c.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757~cd5edfd16f.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~d150e3cf2e.pk= g /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739~01dd34d6a9.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~6bf2e897c8.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450~d5a6a3a3cb.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450~a9dbb207b2.pk= g /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757.pkg = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757~3e33cdaaf4.p= kg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757.pkg = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757~74d0186d= 0e.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226~7620158652.pkg > i've tested this here and even if FreeBSD-set-src isn't marked as = vital > prior to the upgrade, it becomes vital after updating, which seems to = be > the expected behaviour from a quick inspection of the pkg(8) source. It appears that what happend in my environment matches the materials downloaded from upstream. It seems upstream is what needs the investigation. Again, I wonder if the /usr/src/ downloaded did not match what was actually built and downloaded. For reference, amd64 context: /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450~1656b05fd3.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450~c6577afa66.pkg Side Note: Looking around I do see an oddity in /var/db/pkg/ : # ls -C1 /var/db/pkg/*-15.*.pkg | wc -l 840 Those *.pkg files have (local) date/times that are rather old: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 65 Jan 25 23:51:43 2025 = /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD-libsqlite3-dbg-lib32-15.snap20250123224330.pkg -> = FreeBSD-libsqlite3-dbg-lib32-15.snap20250123224330~ab7a13a036.pkg . . . -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 13161 Dec 8 13:22:05 2024 = /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD-libmagic-man-15.snap20241208191210~5c9a803aa3.pkg # ls -C1 /var/db/pkg/*-16.*.pkg | wc -l ls: /var/db/pkg/*-16.*.pkg: No such file or directory 0 Looks to me like I should delete these old *.pkg files from /var/db/pkg/ . =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Fri Sep 19 17:32:18 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cT0202LMCz68KPT for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cT0201pPnz4N5w; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758303144; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=86xV6p0VCG+qI+iB4nEXSj/i9HvUsi/ODbQiaBjZQqo=; b=NoXemvE3ILElRnE2qV2NuAMXXk7OmHbe0OXjPSkQIZkDT/gPNezsRlg90Zn4f8p6OVKuia Xywybp199/sL/vqGpqXORMMA9uYAXtObfMVHSE0r034tRekpCwZPs3B2cMHDjChy1dZLrI Cn4P6bdje/GUjVNEa4ToxbwpsEUnz7OBnPDUNxv0jhZl1vSNR5rtCSqR88nCExRGX7/kBh k6H+CLuF7260MBRivbOXwhMklTg+mUULSvzBi0v0hJbLxzsEDCpjGIUQtLqp4ytBh64kD4 K7gehecbGo/EWWTnRsKUGUTmzHnoxeL36HE9H/3soTr2MCqCG/UZx+FLy13mRA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758303144; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=86xV6p0VCG+qI+iB4nEXSj/i9HvUsi/ODbQiaBjZQqo=; b=VICFeboPpCixqTNpovsyDW8K6LmvxckT7fI5S2979JN8D3glfkUAVCCly5ZY439krRKe3m /RTxGtO8blc1nqJH6toapTu4rRjGcdWIbcU8mNFK+SHaBVwet5xLRx19RRcE/sau5bj1/c cGfhmtdYmYFFqS7aQe85A3THenNw3Ruyka5cxeqEiy1TojPsso/Fh/cxL7fy9tpELUQEX7 dQx+s9926n2LdwoaH55Rie4h/tK0DDsE0l6HlALS6GxJ5xSf/p9L4mjJ2bcbFISCVv+F/5 t31Iw6rFUY15Mq01p5LHTrd/0GFFiT4oKBgMWhTkPUj1oKYQgkNgiU4YJ6I9yw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1758303144; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gNDYXSGXcvmVfAqPX4abj5+cuIF+NPPnzQKK+jhSkmGWyICUiOdEJrIPO2tGA2lW001bgk wi1GA6fk/8BNNMOlA6b7wYus+6oqUyq6FmChMQI9nhhDGrsjjTBoWLXBhEUvs4kSx6Dpfy 963uMLS9EWhx5iJyT2SegviIFFqHxtssZLt7+IlCSnBkMrpz+js+/AGYKyX4QzNeZ4OvI/ OAReBnOpO7nIf964eAofmD4QfdGkPzaCT6hUFAsNvtj5zi7cNhJ6TP6zwA0jNRvsJoJh5e +E5nDKTAZ7t6ypw6bBGJSOw+v1rdY3gBxdh7IwwoXldSb7ufAiU/xbShLqR8ng== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from amaryllis.le-fay.org (amaryllis.le-fay.org [IPv6:2a00:1098:6b:400::9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ivy/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cT01z618dz6ST; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:32:18 +0100 From: Lexi Winter To: Mark Millard Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An odd vital FreeBSD-set-* result? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Mark Millard , Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r77GJ9tIYFtF8VGr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: --r77GJ9tIYFtF8VGr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark Millard wrote in : > But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves > agree with the just-4-vitals status: do you build your packages with "make update-packages"? if so, can you try deleting your ${REPODIR} and rebuilding, so all packages are recreated? i'm wondering if adding the vital flag (but not changing anything else) doesn't cause update-packages to actually update the package. > Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the > name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is: >=20 > categories: [ > "base" > ] > annotations: { > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" > origin: "base" it looks the UCL output from 'pkg info' doesn't have a trailing newline. i think this is a pkg(8) bug, but it shouldn't have anything to do with this issue. to confirm, this is the full output i get for the set-src package, using 'echo' to force a trailing newline: # pkg info -R -F /build/packages/base/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest/FreeBSD-set-s= rc-16.snap20250919160159.pkg; echo name: "FreeBSD-set-src" origin: "base" version: "16.snap20250919160159" comment: "System source code" maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" abi: "FreeBSD:16:amd64" arch: "freebsd:16:x86:64" prefix: "/" flatsize: 0 licenselogic: "single" licenses: [ "BSD2CLAUSE" ] vital: true desc: "This metapackage installs source code for the base system and kernel= =2E" deps: { FreeBSD-src: { origin: "base", version: "16.snap20250919160159" }, FreeBSD-src-sys: { origin: "base", version: "16.snap20250919160159" } } categories: [ "base" ] annotations: { FreeBSD_version: "1600000" } # other than the vital flag, does this match what you have? 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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 11:04:11 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <915D38A6-572C-469B-A12A-BA8ABE992797@yahoo.com> References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cT0l54WM7z4Prs On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:32, Lexi Winter wrote: > Mark Millard wrote in = : >> But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves >> agree with the just-4-vitals status: >=20 > do you build your packages with "make update-packages"? if so, can = you > try deleting your ${REPODIR} and rebuilding, so all packages are > recreated? I never build packages (and I've not done any system builds in a vey long time, never having packaged one that I did build): what I use for pkgbase testing is official upstream material from https://pkg.freebsd.org/ via pkg-static that is using: # cat /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD-base.conf=20 FreeBSD-base: { url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_latest", mirror_type: "srv", signature_type: "fingerprints", fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", enabled: yes } There is no build of mine to be oddly done in some way. > i'm wondering if adding the vital flag (but not changing anything = else) > doesn't cause update-packages to actually update the package. Unsure. >> Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the >> name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is: >>=20 >> categories: [ >> "base" >> ] >> annotations: { >> FreeBSD_version: "1600000" >> }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" >> origin: "base" >=20 > it looks the UCL output from 'pkg info' doesn't have a trailing = newline. > i think this is a pkg(8) bug, but it shouldn't have anything to do = with > this issue. >=20 > to confirm, this is the full output i get for the set-src package, = using > 'echo' to force a trailing newline: >=20 > # pkg info -R -F = /build/packages/base/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap202509= 19160159.pkg; echo > name: "FreeBSD-set-src" > origin: "base" > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > comment: "System source code" > maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" > www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" > abi: "FreeBSD:16:amd64" > arch: "freebsd:16:x86:64" > prefix: "/" > flatsize: 0 > licenselogic: "single" > licenses: [ > "BSD2CLAUSE" > ] > vital: true > desc: "This metapackage installs source code for the base system and = kernel." > deps: { > FreeBSD-src: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > }, > FreeBSD-src-sys: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > } > } > categories: [ > "base" > ] > annotations: { > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > } > # >=20 > other than the vital flag, does this match what you have? Again: the following are from upstream, official builds, not from me building or packaging anything. Note that it is not the same snapshot that you show: It is from when I happened to fetch the official materials of the time. But you can see the exact snapshot naming, including the timestamp part below. # find -s /var/ -name 'FreeBSD-set-src*.pkg' -print /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg # pkg info -R -F = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg ; = echo pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg bootstrap = -f" recommended name: "FreeBSD-set-src" origin: "base" version: "16.snap20250916221226" comment: "System source code" maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" abi: "FreeBSD:16:amd64" arch: "freebsd:16:x86:64" prefix: "/" flatsize: 0 licenselogic: "single" licenses: [ "BSD2CLAUSE" ] desc: "This metapackage installs source code for the base system and = kernel." deps: { FreeBSD-src: { origin: "base", version: "16.snap20250916221226" }, FreeBSD-src-sys: { origin: "base", version: "16.snap20250916221226" } } categories: [ "base" ] annotations: { FreeBSD_version: "1600000" } # The snapshot name and the vital line's status seem to be the differences between your example and mine. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Fri Sep 19 18:06:49 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cT0nn5hMXz68MJ8 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cT0nn4tmfz4QXl; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758305213; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Qnj/pCLzoz08fe2tn38YBzEDOQiXnzA94/WbGHqAo0E=; b=dYAmNtZjIYPi0oSyU3DF5+tpvRHwhgoYE0k/O02Q2FI+1pSfvr2c4nyYqMT8XRH5tYGv1J 4mcZjxdg7pVk13vD7OAtbfWePhVmT+bM5xDMDl4J9nqu9LRMaw+sgTTaun7W7VG6itptHz tlSvmaGqOFmcNIkTUlsd9Yg2sTyDAbZnZjG943ARRYv0P1CwysKn3ZmQLbXKk9wLUj+fln KQoqUZdU0beCKAFYLESVOO9vvW8S+/qpvD/K0CMwDHrkoKdrfCugXR1B6QGr+niYoY+tOL YRNgujPPINLdvtFVUv6vuP+cwGUzWOi0hpl/FVo6F/4l1KKHqrlk6NT4Y1pkeQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1758305213; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Qnj/pCLzoz08fe2tn38YBzEDOQiXnzA94/WbGHqAo0E=; b=D5+6+KF4HMz5+vfvlhXO4WKv/5LZt57GCzaxJW4PQt1GDlp2ArHc0QMA21PbBdeo+pCl/4 Y+hwFm9+4aboNeklD6GYbBJXXkohBHlajWXLPpXjxbk4G7syvlpPvKxsqcKngRx9DNdQfw YYLqAwZfbvh3ygx1JSbFk4rNnqL6KN/s6RErI6CX1LRaNEsItaKYvLKcnK0eEgliqvyuco svGfFYFKMFrrw0iFnctq8EypriWpwJm5Syfg8Fe6JwgSd3eRQULhOYjAzoF9r5uvJ9OPdX JRwstRggdlAVZyryhMsQVxeJ1W7rJSQE7Uo4MRXxJyfw9B4z5cFlARSNpI+VkQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1758305213; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=p953ZfG2SyCgvQ5mm8qBKmDL1yXQH0Q9hnPOIU6t6UsCa5NGQYGC13xMBoUbBr/NgYzpVD qdWBkxBnGIkprWVm6IxO5JIfwHwMsshQ6DBNiaX3mmxZmK7slwHUBavmuKPKk8afiLmaDm IRBsu4e6/z4r9GSz1VGnRLYysLedTNr1VZdCCPYg06s51/mgt3Hd0OTEG4IREdGc2MaBrR WkyHujl3QNGlnZJP4ma8v7rJPSr9e1PkRzs74nzkqbz6ecZvSvWDLaLFeWyWm6LuGvBJp6 6tyYuidzI34IcSV4oHMB2TdZgm5ydcOG62YY+w8Agg/iGEQbwMpZdEohcZ3kFg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from amaryllis.le-fay.org (amaryllis.le-fay.org [IPv6:2a00:1098:6b:400::9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ivy/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cT0nn1kZqz6xP; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivy@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 19:06:49 +0100 From: Lexi Winter To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is the base set of packages everything, or not? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Graham Perrin , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <0814dcd1-e662-4e94-9ac0-ce1cc2fab833@gmail.com> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hdaAE045M+v1upcV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0814dcd1-e662-4e94-9ac0-ce1cc2fab833@gmail.com> --hdaAE045M+v1upcV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham Perrin wrote in <0814dcd1-e662-4e94-9ac0-ce1cc2fab833@gmail.com>: > > line 82, >=20 > base is the complete base system. >=20 > , >=20 > > =E2=80=A6 by default select "base", "kernel-dbg"=C2=A0and any libcompat= sets (e.g., > > lib32) if they're available. =E2=80=A6 set-base is supposed to be equivalent to the "base.txz" set, which is the base system excluding src, tests, lib32, kernels and debug symbols. so it's not really "the complete base system", but it is the complete base system in the sense that it includes all the software we ship, just not the ancillary bits. > Are kernel-dbg and the libcompat sets additional to, or included within, > base (the complete base system)? those are separate components and set-base does not install them. i've just created https://reviews.freebsd.org/D52621 which will mean set-base no longer includes the compilers and toolchain. this might be a good time to either rename set-base to something else, or else add a new set with the meaning of "everything except toolchain". if you have any suggestions for the names and/or descriptions of these sets, any input would be appreciate, because it's proving quite difficult to come up with succinct values for that. --hdaAE045M+v1upcV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaM2btgAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YEApAP9uKfG18b4FNo/URoieThoh0FaznQzYLuSlgCvQwNO9VAD/eqV6007Xtj0a H3L+jQD1RIelB/XX4cTMz7TiA+tYlA8= =nDXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hdaAE045M+v1upcV-- From nobody Fri Sep 19 19:00:07 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cT1zP3WRKz68QRb for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 19:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cT1zN54WHz3GnS for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 19:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=XiQ4Pqi4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3f2ae6fadb4so302822f8f.1 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1758308408; x=1758913208; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:autocrypt:content-language :from:references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ckNumEFgsOjOdSthnAIdGtRH4j2pEDd4mE0n6u/JkF0=; b=XiQ4Pqi4u4/3mfvttJJQvD23vFRmebkHhYPFsUJUAMzUIcSmrbBArR69beSY1i33UW bHW4w7tWotYma7CfE37RMfn/qZJRM0L4EDFepX8aS0/qLOaSgPTUdVPWC4MR+mOh45Az xDFwXVU9iTsqRnHzJohs7hZcl66rPhHs+rvJaBsWAd7DtvF/llwPkcwBvopygDGoOx9a RIySgZUc9g/jxShammOtwB91FO9G8b8LQ8lZh8aOrcZQPH87DoH/kxFB4rrlm2W9xooo gr5axexRbv77tq5ZnswpoIH7L0LZ3jqBx645ACCvwWJbpYeOzYH3a7JiJCEQjpWpe5DA ShXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1758308408; x=1758913208; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:autocrypt:content-language :from:references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ckNumEFgsOjOdSthnAIdGtRH4j2pEDd4mE0n6u/JkF0=; b=bd+tOHieFDDyY0uGbCBatugY2LoU5hMtl7IaFseQTJxcknvETDB1NlitwAPfyhSax5 /2ImbqizK4dfW5QyYEjv6tbpYxP9akZMwKuWh1kmVvRXrdMNom0bc/7spEw7rJhhYstZ X6G+rDIsW9nRKkrhnRwhqGw3WPfWwzT1X+tuoQYcnLBmotMAIdSPWWkAT4AaeoVtbiRg rACqH9BUS1X1/Y47CUwTVsagr33t8sdrL9ezaxxOv26ipwRsT1E37jEsRGDbjIjesjoP OzTwhO5bsUrtYAfWrUAeHddYgLEAi3a+klKp0fAS5fdw58EEDcvV7LuvGPJJxqImQ/t1 ORDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy9MDNpuUUM8NINJ33Xvh7eyRT7ZRVUosXaB0pXzKWzHg+vOpud b6V7jSUvR5RV9kMzOpSzZd9nIyaPauScax4JqC1wHAneVeiCCcgb3fzQJQcy7A== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncvWTjLrYoOlRn51jKPuhu6+qstcAPHVG9XdqBBcdfafDtGFOPL5dIxiVwbxtVJ ySEChMfdrVzEb+JMxkVMJ4HnKq4hduBV1U87W3HUWhaC6Az9KzYF22yrI+j149pdELRYAYO/IGa PyoLG2MgrV/4TMiA0SlfciTCaSx5PxsfIHZP502XMiyW9wwShGu0bVAVVgaALpc7Em1i3GVndy3 GDwoR84QioqOImpdY9SXlUb4qaVUy4SDFwSeSEKd4El1JM+LUZsPmB8KxNRkZJv8wlkA/XfU1Kb pkWBAnJ1fmnTe9k53pwPAr7HAqhTR9t6WmWHwTAnZK1v0i49qgT2YlHc0cjWZqk16SV2/8f3Uad Ft1icCZ91xUfBMHJwbX/xgyGYXiUzieI+Y2omtx/Cx/v+cA2x/QuxIo0AjdY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHVOHdsKY9FAmnNf7dB1hGLsqwf3kWH+NCUcdjDh8BQfylE9HTdpGwYqSvy0f7ArnlCSnyeow== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:2486:b0:3e9:f852:491 with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-3ee86b845b9mr4348531f8f.56.1758308408450; Fri, 19 Sep 2025 12:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (host-89-241-205-78.as13285.net. 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At the time, I could not put my finger on what felt/looked/sounded wrong. Also partly why I asked about contextual hints in bsdinstall dialogues. 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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 14:55:58 -0700 References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9B20ED6C-6B45-4C08-BF9C-3B524AEA136D@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.205:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.205:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cT5tN6Bdlz3cpG On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:18, Mark Millard wrote: [Just notice that I'd referenced the wrong files in part of the below.] > On Sep 19, 2025, at 08:48, Lexi Winter wrote: >>=20 >> Mark Millard wrote in = <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com>: >>> # pkg-static install -U -rFreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*' >>>=20 >>> Afterwards I tried deleting FreeBSD-set-* without force >>> being requested and it reported only 4 as vital and >>> allowed the others to be deleted: >>=20 >> are you able to reproduce this on a clean system (e.g., in a chroot)? >> if so, the particular sequence of commands that triggers it would be >> useful to have. >=20 > I think the below means I do not need to do this: the *.pkg files > agree with the "only 4" status. >=20 >> also, please show the output of this command on the affected system: >>=20 >> pkg info | awk '/^FreeBSD-set-/ { print $1 }' | xargs pkg query '%n = %V' >=20 > Unfortunately since the deletes happened, the FreeBSD-set-* in > question are no longer listed in the info output. >=20 > Similarly for my later having forcing the delete of the 4 that did > report being vital. >=20 > So, overall: empty output on both systems. >=20 > But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves > agree with the just-4-vitals status: >=20 > amd64: >=20 > # find -s /var/cache/pkg/ -name "FreeBSD-set*~*.pkg" -exec pkg info -R = -F {} \; | grep -e name: -e vital: > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > name: "FreeBSD-set-base" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-src" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-tests" >=20 >=20 > aarch64: >=20 > # find -s /var/cache/pkg/ -name "FreeBSD-set*~*.pkg" -exec pkg info -R = -F {} \; | grep -e name: -e vital: > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > name: "FreeBSD-set-base" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail" > vital: true > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-src" > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > }name: "FreeBSD-set-tests" >=20 > Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the > name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is: >=20 > categories: [ > "base" > ] > annotations: { > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" > origin: "base" >=20 >=20 > The example also showing the lack of vital: for lib32 is: >=20 > . . . > categories: [ > "base" > ] > annotations: { > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > }name: "FreeBSD-set-lib32" > origin: "base" > version: "16.snap20250912212418" > comment: "32-bit compatibility libraries (metapackage)" > maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" > www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" > abi: "FreeBSD:16:aarch64" > arch: "freebsd:16:aarch64:64" > prefix: "/" > flatsize: 0 > licenselogic: "single" > licenses: [ > "BSD2CLAUSE" > ] > desc: "This metapackage installs compatibility libraries required for = building and\nrunning 32-bit applications on a 64-bit host system." > . . . >=20 > (When listed, vital: is the line just before "desc:".) >=20 > So the problem appears to have been from upstream. >=20 > For reference, amd64: >=20 > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450~c89aadaed9.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450~d584303e89.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450~afeee71eda.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~94132e3b9c.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757~cd5edfd16f.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~d150e3cf2e.pk= g > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739~01dd34d6a9.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739~6bf2e897c8.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450~d5a6a3a3cb.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450~a9dbb207b2.pk= g > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757~3e33cdaaf4.p= kg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757.pkg > = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757~74d0186d= 0e.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226~7620158652.pkg >=20 >> i've tested this here and even if FreeBSD-set-src isn't marked as = vital >> prior to the upgrade, it becomes vital after updating, which seems to = be >> the expected behaviour from a quick inspection of the pkg(8) source. >=20 > It appears that what happend in my environment matches the materials > downloaded from upstream. It seems upstream is what needs the > investigation. >=20 > Again, I wonder if the /usr/src/ downloaded did not match what was > actually built and downloaded. >=20 > For reference, amd64 context: >=20 > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450~1656b05fd3.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450~c6577afa66.pkg Above I should have referenced: /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg > Side Note: >=20 > Looking around I do see an oddity in /var/db/pkg/ : >=20 > # ls -C1 /var/db/pkg/*-15.*.pkg | wc -l > 840 >=20 > Those *.pkg files have (local) date/times that are rather old: >=20 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel uarch 65 Jan 25 23:51:43 2025 = /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD-libsqlite3-dbg-lib32-15.snap20250123224330.pkg -> = FreeBSD-libsqlite3-dbg-lib32-15.snap20250123224330~ab7a13a036.pkg > . . . > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel uarch 13161 Dec 8 13:22:05 2024 = /var/db/pkg/FreeBSD-libmagic-man-15.snap20241208191210~5c9a803aa3.pkg >=20 > # ls -C1 /var/db/pkg/*-16.*.pkg | wc -l > ls: /var/db/pkg/*-16.*.pkg: No such file or directory > 0 >=20 > Looks to me like I should delete these old *.pkg files > from /var/db/pkg/ . =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Sat Sep 20 01:42:08 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cTBvQ68hKz680FS for ; 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[ release/packages/sets/*.ucl vs. FreeBSD-set-* update timing ] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <915D38A6-572C-469B-A12A-BA8ABE992797@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:42:08 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> <915D38A6-572C-469B-A12A-BA8ABE992797@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.971]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.69.206:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cTBvQ4Ql1z48vW On Sep 19, 2025, at 11:04, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:32, Lexi Winter wrote: >=20 >> Mark Millard wrote in = : >>> But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves >>> agree with the just-4-vitals status: >>=20 >> do you build your packages with "make update-packages"? if so, can = you >> try deleting your ${REPODIR} and rebuilding, so all packages are >> recreated? >=20 > I never build packages (and I've not done any system builds > in a vey long time, never having packaged one that I did build): > what I use for pkgbase testing is official upstream material > from https://pkg.freebsd.org/ via pkg-static that is using: >=20 > # cat /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD-base.conf=20 > FreeBSD-base: { > url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/base_latest", > mirror_type: "srv", > signature_type: "fingerprints", > fingerprints: "/usr/share/keys/pkg", > enabled: yes > } >=20 > There is no build of mine to be oddly done in some way. >=20 >> i'm wondering if adding the vital flag (but not changing anything = else) >> doesn't cause update-packages to actually update the package. >=20 > Unsure. Reminder, with a note added: QUOTE (with a note added) The following package(s) are locked or vital and may not be removed: FreeBSD-set-base FreeBSD-set-devel FreeBSD-set-minimal FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail [ NOTE: Missing: FreeBSD-set-lib32 , FreeBSD-set-src , FreeBSD-set-tests = ] Deinstallation has been requested for the following 10 packages (of 0 = packages in the universe): Installed packages to be REMOVED: FreeBSD-set-base-dbg: 16.snap20250918100450 FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-kernels: 16.snap20250917214757 FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-lib32: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg: 16.snap20250912210739 FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg: 16.snap20250918100450 FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg: 16.snap20250917214757 FreeBSD-set-src: 16.snap20250916221226 FreeBSD-set-tests: 16.snap20250916221226 Number of packages to be removed: 10 Proceed with deinstalling packages? [y/N]: y [1/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450... [2/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739... [3/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757... [4/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739... [5/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739... [6/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739... [7/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450... [8/10] Deinstalling = FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757... [9/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226... [10/10] Deinstalling FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226... END QUOTE Overall: # find -s /var/ \( -name 'FreeBSD*-src-*' -o -name 'FreeBSD-set-*' \) = -print | grep -v "\~" | sed -e 's@^.*\(FreeBSD-.*-\(16\..*$\)\)@\2 \1@' = | sort -r 16.snap20250918100450.pkg FreeBSD-src-sys-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250918100450.pkg FreeBSD-src-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250918100450.pkg = FreeBSD-set-minimal-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250918100450.pkg FreeBSD-set-minimal-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250918100450.pkg FreeBSD-set-devel-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250918100450.pkg FreeBSD-set-base-dbg-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250918100450.pkg FreeBSD-set-base-16.snap20250918100450.pkg 16.snap20250917214757.pkg = FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-dbg-16.snap20250917214757.pkg 16.snap20250917214757.pkg = FreeBSD-set-minimal-jail-16.snap20250917214757.pkg 16.snap20250917214757.pkg FreeBSD-set-kernels-16.snap20250917214757.pkg 16.snap20250916221226.pkg FreeBSD-set-tests-16.snap20250916221226.pkg 16.snap20250916221226.pkg FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg 16.snap20250912210739.pkg = FreeBSD-set-lib32-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg 16.snap20250912210739.pkg FreeBSD-set-lib32-16.snap20250912210739.pkg 16.snap20250912210739.pkg = FreeBSD-set-kernels-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg 16.snap20250912210739.pkg = FreeBSD-set-devel-dbg-16.snap20250912210739.pkg Compare/contrast with the update to 7 release/packages/sets/*.ucl files, via: QUOTE author Lexi Winter 2025-09-17 20:12:21 +0000 committer Lexi Winter 2025-09-17 20:14:18 +0000 . . . packages: Mark all sets as vital END QUOTE 20250912210739 for FreeBSD-set-lib32 is well before 2025-09-17 20:14:18 = +0000. 20250916221226 for FreeBSD-set-src is also. 20250916221226 for FreeBSD-set-tests is also. So: those 3 were not updated by making the changes to the matching release/packages/sets/*.ucl The other 4 are all after 2025-09-17 20:14:18 +0000 and so were updated --but possibly for other reasons than the matching release/packages/sets/*.ucl change. It looks like /usr/src/ indicates what should have happened (and, so, was correct). Instead it is the lack of updating to the 3 FreeBSD-set-*.pkg files that is evidence of the type problem, whatever its details. >>> Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the >>> name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is: >>>=20 >>> categories: [ >>> "base" >>> ] >>> annotations: { >>> FreeBSD_version: "1600000" >>> }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" >>> origin: "base" >>=20 >> it looks the UCL output from 'pkg info' doesn't have a trailing = newline. >> i think this is a pkg(8) bug, but it shouldn't have anything to do = with >> this issue. >>=20 >> to confirm, this is the full output i get for the set-src package, = using >> 'echo' to force a trailing newline: >>=20 >> # pkg info -R -F = /build/packages/base/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap202509= 19160159.pkg; echo >> name: "FreeBSD-set-src" >> origin: "base" >> version: "16.snap20250919160159" >> comment: "System source code" >> maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" >> www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" >> abi: "FreeBSD:16:amd64" >> arch: "freebsd:16:x86:64" >> prefix: "/" >> flatsize: 0 >> licenselogic: "single" >> licenses: [ >> "BSD2CLAUSE" >> ] >> vital: true >> desc: "This metapackage installs source code for the base system and = kernel." >> deps: { >> FreeBSD-src: { >> origin: "base", >> version: "16.snap20250919160159" >> }, >> FreeBSD-src-sys: { >> origin: "base", >> version: "16.snap20250919160159" >> } >> } >> categories: [ >> "base" >> ] >> annotations: { >> FreeBSD_version: "1600000" >> } >> # >>=20 >> other than the vital flag, does this match what you have? >=20 > Again: the following are from upstream, official builds, not > from me building or packaging anything. Note that it is not > the same snapshot that you show: It is from when I happened > to fetch the official materials of the time. But you can see > the exact snapshot naming, including the timestamp part > below. >=20 > # find -s /var/ -name 'FreeBSD-set-src*.pkg' -print > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226.pkg > /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg >=20 > # pkg info -R -F = /var/cache/pkg/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250916221226~cfde358ad0.pkg ; = echo > pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected. Running "pkg = bootstrap -f" recommended > name: "FreeBSD-set-src" > origin: "base" > version: "16.snap20250916221226" > comment: "System source code" > maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" > www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" > abi: "FreeBSD:16:amd64" > arch: "freebsd:16:x86:64" > prefix: "/" > flatsize: 0 > licenselogic: "single" > licenses: [ > "BSD2CLAUSE" > ] > desc: "This metapackage installs source code for the base system and = kernel." > deps: { > FreeBSD-src: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250916221226" > }, > FreeBSD-src-sys: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250916221226" > } > } > categories: [ > "base" > ] > annotations: { > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > } > # >=20 > The snapshot name and the vital line's status seem to be > the differences between your example and mine. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Sat Sep 20 06:16:32 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cTJzx35Y1z68Kn4 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2025 06:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Received: from mx.blih.net (mx.blih.net [212.83.155.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cTJzw5Sb6z3c0K; Sat, 20 Sep 2025 06:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from manu@bidouilliste.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from skull.home.blih.net (mwc0868.ftth.cust.milkywan.net [45.13.107.196]) by mx.blih.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id bd343a02 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Sat, 20 Sep 2025 06:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2025 08:16:32 +0200 From: Emmanuel Vadot To: Lexi Winter Cc: Mark Millard , Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An odd vital FreeBSD-set-* result? Message-Id: <20250920081632.bf262c28742cf9eb3ed9e31a@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: References: <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8.ref@yahoo.com> <780BB42C-1EBE-4847-ADE6-F8F6730617B8@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd15.0) List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:212.83.128.0/19, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cTJzw5Sb6z3c0K On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 18:32:18 +0100 Lexi Winter wrote: > Mark Millard wrote in : > > But the following indicates that the cached *.pkg files themselves > > agree with the just-4-vitals status: > > do you build your packages with "make update-packages"? if so, can you > try deleting your ${REPODIR} and rebuilding, so all packages are > recreated? > > i'm wondering if adding the vital flag (but not changing anything else) > doesn't cause update-packages to actually update the package. Vital flag isn't taken into account for calculating the internal checksum (See https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/blob/main/libpkg/pkg_checksum.c#L197) we should probably add it there. Cheers, > > Also of note is the lack of a new-line between the prior } and the > > name: for most of the above. An example of a surrounding context is: > > > > categories: [ > > "base" > > ] > > annotations: { > > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > > }name: "FreeBSD-set-base-dbg" > > origin: "base" > > it looks the UCL output from 'pkg info' doesn't have a trailing newline. > i think this is a pkg(8) bug, but it shouldn't have anything to do with > this issue. > > to confirm, this is the full output i get for the set-src package, using > 'echo' to force a trailing newline: > > # pkg info -R -F /build/packages/base/FreeBSD:16:amd64/latest/FreeBSD-set-src-16.snap20250919160159.pkg; echo > name: "FreeBSD-set-src" > origin: "base" > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > comment: "System source code" > maintainer: "re@FreeBSD.org" > www: "https://www.FreeBSD.org" > abi: "FreeBSD:16:amd64" > arch: "freebsd:16:x86:64" > prefix: "/" > flatsize: 0 > licenselogic: "single" > licenses: [ > "BSD2CLAUSE" > ] > vital: true > desc: "This metapackage installs source code for the base system and kernel." > deps: { > FreeBSD-src: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > }, > FreeBSD-src-sys: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > } > } > categories: [ > "base" > ] > annotations: { > FreeBSD_version: "1600000" > } > # > > other than the vital flag, does this match what you have? -- Emmanuel Vadot From nobody Sat Sep 20 22:42:44 2025 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cTksc5Dmsz68WQw for ; 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Is the below as expected? Looking at https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ shows 9 files updated to have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg names. The rest still have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a2.*.pkg names. The 9 FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg are: 3 kernel pkgbase files: = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-generi= c-15.0.a3.20250920233141.pkg = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-generi= c-mmccam-15.0.a3.20250920233141.pkg = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-minima= l-15.0.a3.20250920233141.pkg The runtime pkgbase file: = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-runtime-15.0.= a3.20250920233141.pkg 2 src pkgbase files: = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-src-15.0.a3.2= 0250920233141.pkg = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-src-sys-15.0.= a3.20250920233141.pkg 3 dbg pkgbase files: = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-generi= c-dbg-15.0.a3.20250920233141.pkg = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-generi= c-mmccam-dbg-15.0.a3.20250920233141.pkg = https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/FreeBSD-kernel-minima= l-dbg-15.0.a3.20250920233141.pkg No FreeBSD-set-*.pkg files are named FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg . 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I might describe things as fast-moving and pleasantly overlapping. On 21/09/2025 03:37, Mark Millard wrote: > Should any of the FreeBSD-set-*.pkg files have updated for 15.0-ALPHA3 ? > Is the below as expected? > > > Looking at https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ shows > 9 files updated to have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg names. The rest still > have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a2.*.pkg names. ... Thanks. The result of an actual (possibly premature) upgrade: tl;dr the end result, following a restart, was 15.0-ALPHA3 for the running kernel and for userland. In a little more detail: ... root@pkg-issue-2414:~ # pkg prime-origins | grep base | wc -l pkg: Warning: Major OS version upgrade detected.  Running "pkg bootstrap -f" recommended      260 root@pkg-issue-2414:~ # ... Number of packages to be removed: 94 Number of packages to be installed: 33 Number of packages to be upgraded: 101 The process will require 62 MiB more space. [1/239] Deinstalling FreeBSD-acct-man-15.0.a2.20250912171634... ... Number of packages to be installed: 9 Number of packages to be upgraded: 5 The process will require 7 MiB more space. 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Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Mark Millard , Baptiste Daroussin , Emmanuel Vadot , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dSo8McafdAd3Xq0J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: --dSo8McafdAd3Xq0J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Mark Millard wrote in : > Looking at https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ shows > 9 files updated to have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg names. The rest still > have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a2.*.pkg names. The 9 FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg are: the timestamp on these packages indicate they were built after ALPHA2, but before newvers.sh was updated to ALPHA3. most likely, re@ ran the build several times before updating newvers.sh and did not clean the package repository in the interim. as long as the contents are correct, this has no impact on pkg, and it's expected that the base repository will have different package versions because we only update packages which actually changed. --dSo8McafdAd3Xq0J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSyjTg96lp3RifySyn1nT63mIK/YAUCaNA80wAKCRD1nT63mIK/ YBflAQD/kn04UhzOc+a2jsX3LJp0YAMG3n/gd2KZIrviArVz6AD/XeH95jqvJIpi 9vdkny1bLCUaOw28i+q+htRQXlJ4pQI= =APhl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dSo8McafdAd3Xq0J-- From nobody Sun Sep 21 18:17:03 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cVDwx56G3z67l31 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic303-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic303-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.64.206]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cVDwx2N1rz3KqT for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2025 18:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1758478639; bh=DM9WFCq6ju38HksswQ6TNVAY5Sz3UaEKHKjk5jw1ka8=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=G+6s9r4pEfcULBBpGRHMnqxIgS++lhc78f+DqvdB72fvqCb17dzp/getBP/iwiftGspV0mEJAqYQhmuyOSarnCgXyvB7ZQxgAlSVoY5aW8Yo6Aw22ROt3HBvh3Ufm2nUU2vM0QKBs/FpM5c3TSCaksnlMxKtUN8C5OnkJ0puufJF2B/bZOhXorAezDcB255ji9dyQ2oB6cpPS5ZJMpBNYV0cVqZ06/9SWLZB2BcZtB8RPPI4YE0PI5crK5M6oJueV/SvDdwuhRGyKLGCfkvQkMBf0JHkB9bJ9vpShsWlqaMO4uS7hfvLg/bJSF1mz4P2hEudUEtv3mBqZ+fTgOEJXA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1758478639; bh=ynD9+FYbTK+QPuE6gmJwOKl21erlMF8fKgjkYrpIhSm=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Subject:From:Date:To:From:Subject; b=PJ+1nn36qttgT8pYWn1EB6FknQDX9rRLULnzaojLBQEFgx9cJQwZRaJaYuh4MTp6DGqOTXsliQ2iVw3aDeX6SEKBl8grXchIS52f81D+W1BN+PHj0krRy+eHu1Lnn13EFs/zG9GxCYPC/BpgyK4cSnzdeJh2pYPrFgCobwBcNgc9eA/MfIuVUGxVxo7Y3cv4yqVl1+gLa/A6wia+9MKBzNqTB3BJiy3HvAzpw1A0rXtuK0GPC5w6K+hQzJhqNGy7Lwx6wRbv4M5iiO+HJx76viu4F8c44n2Iw7cN4+t8IaZfr1fZBohFOMR5U36gO39rIrHwHFUYEAZjqYgLprtnoQ== X-YMail-OSG: YCmlAhAVM1lN7GSJPHdXihaGGYqxe4Ki951Sb.8HSFhD8W8wHr0_AsGQ4EvLAdK OhrgnaS7fyjnEs6rGu7hGJuorDELiSRhq06EFg_kAFSqRiktRBkte3jq6HEKbinS_3UwnlSCZA4L Fx001cBqVpVmwNAv814qpnw5h1CFazGemnRsMQ36PzGmSJYl3DIDqd8gQjxHKbEvtm6jX77d_7Xb wXha3Z82NXcp6q3TOBIahbZnIXuM0_KNMxB7lHaEmn30mK6Qt9ujPIwNBVi__fZZMjswelt8I9as vTySkxGrPYW0sKAft94T0yQ.4aMBe7yNr7SXPbRo3sOmb4W6zeKonSeAoXgZUZA5S5c20jNx3S5F oySkdjeI7HCW6O8WoPZSh8KahrQ4Pq6nVXbL8tcOFL3rJZxuuZTY0bcG3ba.20wx_AZogdHUIR0E qIc7EXz8BONrk0QX7WPEy89yJlNCjYk8awe2351VOKVnrfJLHMvw53jDxYpS4S9zjrS0Yi7pmAul CJBlUL_Ox0qP.vrt4apSkNeFUGJrBg_49XAOmlRP9tOtISQk5Ffz_rjWKe57aWk5M0ZtnByOkFMX pUyiy_qHuZ2aaOiXJoBLfzZrGtk4J.5_3MPWdnWbP7gRZ6OrFA8bR.t7j7xiF_2fnLJXc.eJnBiP X5HZEqRKCP5wWgFCIoh4UUkWxTIzDN29KOX64Vhvf.42nCO1t5TSJ7KAI5ADV5cZpu6WuLHW0_wK i0EmvCwbltaM5Ztjz3gBY9FvhXKrdIji1VdqaWH4QV2htm3eBEYhifW_Ayoe1Tw4tGHxDWpWU0.0 TYYypItRSyvNIXOintRLk2v4fpUvjXrETqtwdX0jw9eTt4aw8Trw3cM5AvubSRDYLTopogQK54PA nty19WOd8MBpa19pR3KgkA124JluJn6couUU4Bt9XkdORP4KzuvoDyJkRRGaUgUK5jx4XJeOm876 S8NHjdAm0YQgqc290LbwHBAc7W2ydjtJj6toA43Rsk9hL6Ojk25G7At11QfT96QB5fGIWdNR387. 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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 11:17:03 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Emmanuel Vadot , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0C369B1C-C86C-4BB0-8237-3863B8BD4A1B@yahoo.com> References: To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVDwx2N1rz3KqT On Sep 21, 2025, at 10:58, Lexi Winter wrote: > Mark Millard wrote in : >> Looking at https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ shows >> 9 files updated to have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg names. The rest still >> have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a2.*.pkg names. The 9 FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg are: > > the timestamp on these packages indicate they were built after ALPHA2, > but before newvers.sh was updated to ALPHA3. most likely, re@ ran the > build several times before updating newvers.sh and did not clean the > package repository in the interim. > > as long as the contents are correct, this has no impact on pkg, and it's > expected that the base repository will have different package versions > because we only update packages which actually changed. I'm confused by that statement. The below example is not based on 15.0, but some material from prior main 16 reporting related to FreeBSD-set-* vintages and content, where some FreeBSD-set-* had not been updated, in this case FreeBSD-set-src : deps: { FreeBSD-src: { origin: "base", version: "16.snap20250919160159" }, FreeBSD-src-sys: { origin: "base", version: "16.snap20250919160159" } } If the FreeBSD-set-src involved for such is older than the actual FreeBSD-src and FreeBSD-src-sys distributed, the "version:" fields are out of date, as they were in the main 16 example in question. 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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <0C369B1C-C86C-4BB0-8237-3863B8BD4A1B@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2025 11:30:34 -0700 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Emmanuel Vadot , FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2137C048-C9FD-4C4E-97EF-EFBC187437F5@yahoo.com> References: <0C369B1C-C86C-4BB0-8237-3863B8BD4A1B@yahoo.com> To: Lexi Winter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3826.700.81) X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.63 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.63)[-0.633]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.68.205:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.68.205:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVFDc71G1z3LpL [Just fising some wording.] On Sep 21, 2025, at 11:17, Mark Millard wrote: > On Sep 21, 2025, at 10:58, Lexi Winter wrote: > >> Mark Millard wrote in : >>> Looking at https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_latest/ shows >>> 9 files updated to have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg names. The rest still >>> have FreeBSD-*-15.0.a2.*.pkg names. The 9 FreeBSD-*-15.0.a3.*.pkg are: >> >> the timestamp on these packages indicate they were built after ALPHA2, >> but before newvers.sh was updated to ALPHA3. most likely, re@ ran the >> build several times before updating newvers.sh and did not clean the >> package repository in the interim. >> >> as long as the contents are correct, this has no impact on pkg, and it's >> expected that the base repository will have different package versions >> because we only update packages which actually changed. > > I'm confused by that statement. The below example is not > based on 15.0, but some material from prior main 16 > reporting related to FreeBSD-set-* vintages and content, > where some FreeBSD-set-* had not been updated, in this > case FreeBSD-set-src : > > deps: { > FreeBSD-src: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > }, > FreeBSD-src-sys: { > origin: "base", > version: "16.snap20250919160159" > } > } > > If the FreeBSD-set-src involved for such is > older than the actual FreeBSD-src and > FreeBSD-src-sys distributed, the "version:" > fields are out of date, as they were in the > main 16 example in question. > > If they are ignored/unused and do not track > updates, why are they even present? Fixing that last statement to be explicit and adding another question: If the "version:" fields in a FreeBSD-set-* are ignored/unused and do not track update to members of the FreeBSD-set-* in question, then why are the "version:" fields even present in the data for the FreeBSD-set-* ? Are the "version:" fields being out of date and example of: contents are incorrect ? === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com