From nobody Fri Jan 10 11:06:55 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YTzPl20cPz5k6X1 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abuhussain@secure.mailbox.org) Received: from mxtls2.mailbox.org (mxtls2.mailbox.org [80.241.60.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "Thawte TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YTzPj6pm2z4N4s for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abuhussain@secure.mailbox.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=secure.mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b="Mad2/6Ff"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of abuhussain@secure.mailbox.org designates 80.241.60.214 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=abuhussain@secure.mailbox.org; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=secure.mailbox.org Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mxtls2.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4178841157 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:06:58 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secure.mailbox.org; s=mail20150812; t=1736507218; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=SpVz+TSRrvlBjyzBBJxIcliJAMg6p5AsZfhY2Ts1Nsc=; b=Mad2/6Ff7UWyG0KR1MQSs7jAeIwKe2wRGXeOXSOKmMw7TeHp0Nh2tSaKQd4mCM8DPR36P1 gijC/thp/0dRbProuRX84r1bE/4j6bV2q7DgyyJp2bg5BdMjtmabikJ9kLD4K0nNq6rQrW Dfq7gJxebX/y2WkX7beuvZHMGhYarPNxrQLx6mF4sNggNoVw4L5jgCggLhLWHZYEq7um+3 RfFpWdb6TWU3PUvR+G2YucZicAYTOkPAqf/u88IOely6g8saY7TPG7CKZfI9FDPzHsRKX5 l/UxXZLR68hv8KDppVyzbUb63TY/6tv8PtjwAlPW1h9sNh6nQ6l3b28NsNwCvQ== Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:06:55 +0000 From: Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Netbooting an xserve G5? 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As the subject line implies, I am looking for a way to netboot an XServe G5 using the ppc64 port. This server I got for close to nothing is on an excellent state, though unfortunately, the CD drive is not really working (it ejects every CD/DVD I have ever tried to feed it), and there are conflicting accounts on whether or not these machines can boot from an USB stick. I was searching for something like 'ofwboot' (which I am used to since I have successfully netbooted macppc machines to NetBSD and OpenBSD), but I didn't find anything on the mirrors...or on the source tree for that matter. I did find a 'loader' file, though I am not sure if that is the right file or if it is relevant/appropriate to netboot from at all. Has anyone had experience with these machines? or any experience trying to netboot ppc(64) whatsoever? Any helpful pointers greatly appreciated. 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Message-ID: References: List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 11:06:55AM +0000, Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar wrote: > Hi all! > > As the subject line implies, I am looking for a way to netboot an > XServe G5 using the ppc64 port. This server I got for close to nothing > is on an excellent state, though unfortunately, the CD drive is not > really working (it ejects every CD/DVD I have ever tried to feed it), and > there are conflicting accounts on whether or not these machines can boot > from an USB stick. I've never bothered to boot my macs from removable media, and always preferred netbooting, esp. given how easy it is to setup. This is the first option recommended by grehan@ in his guide* and that's how I've installed FreeBSD on all my G4/G5 machines. HTH, ./danfe *) https://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/install.html From nobody Fri Jan 10 19:13:16 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-ppc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YVBC96rWxz5kN7K for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abuhussain@secure.mailbox.org) Received: from mxtls1.mailbox.org (mxtls1.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:104:1:1:25:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "Thawte TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YVBC94j59z4MZR; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abuhussain@secure.mailbox.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org (smtp2.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mxtls1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E26B4353A; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:13:31 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secure.mailbox.org; s=mail20150812; t=1736536411; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=WsS3aFeajC4vxFXF95jqH5Jj+P5gmIQTBYFbDsbGhRo=; b=XrJW5mZYifOTvo0m1SQtFd9kado8/EQ80QhHv9RrzXJqUNKzJozQLKzabr7QOosYmtWLwa m2Gd36v5iFkhxUk61Pwhl3446TRAlPpnE+QZSEtS66GoXMfq1tlMPJwT674acOtwtp+NwP x8OMCB6/YQjrBL0u5nU2Y0f0XGzkgnAOSTMrjwPSKszxvpYClpWDa38dG3s+elYjpK/+Fs /zMHMnnAEKixLLtY/H2mtv0wykpxd3vsUrClz9Wb/0G9Da30C0flQzN+hzvZ9D94D74/K7 LXICEmC61Vqt46oucXbI/a/Ivh3se1nFQVoEF48Wu9m/WkWrxAyZsanC3R6fsg== Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:13:16 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secure.mailbox.org; s=mail20150812; t=1736536409; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=WsS3aFeajC4vxFXF95jqH5Jj+P5gmIQTBYFbDsbGhRo=; b=lmgOdMm57kE0kH0vqQYVRi8hjQ72gN3+tZ0KGmJNqy4k0uCoDlHwSwFwvVrGwbXjl6AFAc u1sHfvNugiPha67pPkSITYebwxvK5yoSyBL1twfdhNR3f1JXsJJzJ+2XwhknJI2KeGVBAq PGqiHbRAdS9vi1YLHEtd/7SMHH5+Ax94hEIn87ccI2QvG67ZCHiHQFHHi8f+Qb3ZxEq68k gpv35AvqJ4dqYaXCSz/UeAFLCQhdhA8Z7a/DKTvxsgBAgkEmgPTeChoSP+bC1heaofuHDN DOgovICb2A7s9zuC9jvAwdZpxZl6ArOsua1aG87RibXLpANHv0V3ujwT0Fgm9w== From: Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooting an xserve G5? Message-ID: References: List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YVBC94j59z4MZR X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:199118, ipnet:2001:67c:2050::/48, country:DE] Hi Alexey, Thank you very much - I totally missed that guide. It worked, and I am able to boot single user now. The only problem: the host runs e x c r u c i a t i n g l y slow - not as in 'it lags!', but as in 'I have to wait for minutes until what I type on the keyboard appears on the screen', so the system really isn't usable in this state. My NFS server is a DragonFly box. It has netbooted, as I stated before, NetBSD and OpenBSD seamlessly. I checked the FreeBSD docs, specifically the 'Advanced Networking' section which describes PXE, but there is no mention of specific/preferred flags to be passed to NFS/mountd. Has anyone seen this behaviour before and/or could you share the relevant portion of your rc.conf so I can check it against mine? Alexey: Thanks again for the useful hint! BR.- * Alexey Dokuchaev : > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 11:06:55AM +0000, Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > As the subject line implies, I am looking for a way to netboot an > > XServe G5 using the ppc64 port. This server I got for close to nothing > > is on an excellent state, though unfortunately, the CD drive is not > > really working (it ejects every CD/DVD I have ever tried to feed it), and > > there are conflicting accounts on whether or not these machines can boot > > from an USB stick. > > I've never bothered to boot my macs from removable media, and always > preferred netbooting, esp. given how easy it is to setup. This is the > first option recommended by grehan@ in his guide* and that's how I've > installed FreeBSD on all my G4/G5 machines. 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Message-ID: <20250110142044.0fa100b5@ralga.knownspace> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.43; powerpc64le-unknown-linux-gnu) List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this an SMP XServe, or a single CPU? If SMP, you can try disabling SMP with "kern.smp.disabled=1" at loader prompt, and see if that improves things. It sounds counter-intuitive, but if there's a bug in the clock sync that could explain the problem. I recall a PR opened about something related. - Justin On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:13:16 +0000 Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar wrote: > Hi Alexey, > > Thank you very much - I totally missed that guide. > > It worked, and I am able to boot single user now. > > The only problem: the host runs e x c r u c i a t i n g l y slow - > not as in 'it lags!', but as in 'I have to wait for minutes until > what I type on the keyboard appears on the screen', so the system > really isn't usable in this state. > > My NFS server is a DragonFly box. It has netbooted, as I stated > before, NetBSD and OpenBSD seamlessly. I checked the FreeBSD docs, > specifically the 'Advanced Networking' section which describes PXE, > but there is no mention of specific/preferred flags to be passed to > NFS/mountd. > > Has anyone seen this behaviour before and/or could you share the > relevant portion of your rc.conf so I can check it against mine? > > Alexey: Thanks again for the useful hint! > > BR.- > > * Alexey Dokuchaev : > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 11:06:55AM +0000, Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar > > wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > As the subject line implies, I am looking for a way to netboot an > > > XServe G5 using the ppc64 port. This server I got for close to > > > nothing is on an excellent state, though unfortunately, the CD > > > drive is not really working (it ejects every CD/DVD I have ever > > > tried to feed it), and there are conflicting accounts on whether > > > or not these machines can boot from an USB stick. > > > > I've never bothered to boot my macs from removable media, and always > > preferred netbooting, esp. given how easy it is to setup. This is > > the first option recommended by grehan@ in his guide* and that's > > how I've installed FreeBSD on all my G4/G5 machines. 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Message-ID: References: <20250110142044.0fa100b5@ralga.knownspace> List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250110142044.0fa100b5@ralga.knownspace> Organization: "N01ytics" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YVVM23vr2z4rTX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:199118, ipnet:80.241.60.0/24, country:DE] Hi Justin, sysctl hw.ncpu shows 2, so I would assume that the former is the case. Unfortunately, there must be something else going on here. I tried set kern.smp.disabled=1 at the loader prompt. It doesn't matter if I then 'boot -s' or simply 'boot', in both cases, the system never reaches the stage where I am prompted for the shell - it just hangs. If I detach and reattach peripherals, such as the keyboard, the console tells me so, but there is nothing else. I remember something (probably) similar happening a couple of years ago while trying to netboot NetBSD from the same box, and M. Dillon from DFly giving me the advice of setting the '-2' and '-r' mountd flags in rc.conf - which worked like a charm for NetBSD but didn't help at all in this case so I am kind of out of ideas. Does this sound remotely familiar and/or do you have any other suggestions? Thanks a lot, BR.- * Justin Hibbits : > Is this an SMP XServe, or a single CPU? If SMP, you can try disabling > SMP with "kern.smp.disabled=1" at loader prompt, and see if that > improves things. It sounds counter-intuitive, but if there's a bug in > the clock sync that could explain the problem. I recall a PR opened > about something related. > > - Justin > > On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:13:16 +0000 > Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar wrote: > > > Hi Alexey, > > > > Thank you very much - I totally missed that guide. > > > > It worked, and I am able to boot single user now. > > > > The only problem: the host runs e x c r u c i a t i n g l y slow - > > not as in 'it lags!', but as in 'I have to wait for minutes until > > what I type on the keyboard appears on the screen', so the system > > really isn't usable in this state. > > > > My NFS server is a DragonFly box. It has netbooted, as I stated > > before, NetBSD and OpenBSD seamlessly. I checked the FreeBSD docs, > > specifically the 'Advanced Networking' section which describes PXE, > > but there is no mention of specific/preferred flags to be passed to > > NFS/mountd. > > > > Has anyone seen this behaviour before and/or could you share the > > relevant portion of your rc.conf so I can check it against mine? > > > > Alexey: Thanks again for the useful hint! > > > > BR.- > > > > * Alexey Dokuchaev : > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 11:06:55AM +0000, Abu Hussain Al Mukhtar > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > > > As the subject line implies, I am looking for a way to netboot an > > > > XServe G5 using the ppc64 port. This server I got for close to > > > > nothing is on an excellent state, though unfortunately, the CD > > > > drive is not really working (it ejects every CD/DVD I have ever > > > > tried to feed it), and there are conflicting accounts on whether > > > > or not these machines can boot from an USB stick. > > > > > > I've never bothered to boot my macs from removable media, and always > > > preferred netbooting, esp. given how easy it is to setup. This is > > > the first option recommended by grehan@ in his guide* and that's > > > how I've installed FreeBSD on all my G4/G5 machines. HTH, > > > > > > ./danfe > > > > > > *) https://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/install.html > > > > > > >