From nobody Mon Jan 6 17:57:01 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YRhhn0FDcz5jxRQ for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@ymmv.dk) Received: from mail01.ymmv.dk (193-106-164-141.ip4.fiberby.net [193.106.164.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YRhhl4F9Kz4Dlv for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@ymmv.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ymmv.dk header.s=ymmv-mail-dkim header.b=iWhOPPdb; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@ymmv.dk has no SPF policy when checking 193.106.164.141) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@ymmv.dk; dmarc=none Received: from c02qx0.local (193-106-164-140.ip4.fiberby.net [193.106.164.140]) by mail01.ymmv.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05C1F130E3A for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 18:57:03 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ymmv.dk; s=ymmv-mail-dkim; t=1736186224; bh=Pou01jJxsYOwcfOCUsabDcthTDos7Ik5EDHMoJPgn0c=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=iWhOPPdbN1dKD67SfnhR0Ft6m+xQXT+ZQK0yQrsm+Kuv1lJ2FiMPJKk2zyLIMcWDM RJFoNjw70cfaYR7vW4PxNEIkrsk1lmeNIOUxypyJvwIGro5s3G4JAPz1Ln7GATb34M LpwF5S+FYT3ckjZ3tkyzTCvZ0oxCST9u+f6hw7QSjg/6FRLBumaM8akoJ04ARO37bC 02aPqRfDboT3iasv9OJ31vPhix0MbfhEjTzF7hDBxDYGS1RGm/jab4ymdIcpRYWeUO bXEHQeWp651xnAaBndgq6VSNMa/4rL7vizkPocTw9YX+PX+uTrVPb/ydUFE3VFuCiG BMCYieSemjeCg== Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 18:57:01 +0100 From: Jon Clausen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: running dhclient on a statically configured interface? Message-ID: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YRhhl4F9Kz4Dlv X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ymmv.dk:s=ymmv-mail-dkim]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42541, ipnet:193.106.164.0/22, country:DK]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ymmv.dk]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ymmv.dk:+] Hi I have a slightly overengineered network at home, which is based on the idea that all routing is handled by (vnet) jails. Central in the network is a "link net" that all routing instances have one interface in, while the other interface goes to "whereever". It has a lot of flexibility, and it lets me have dedicated devices do dedicated things without affecting the rest of the network. One of the jails is the "uplink router". This one knows the public ipv4 address and runs PF in order to do NAT. The uplink is business grade, with a proper public, static address, with no carrier grade NAT and no filtering. This is all good. A while ago my ISP was aquired by some other ISP. The other day, the ISP provided (redundant) DNS stopped working for a while. It was fixed later, but not before I had written "support" to ask what was going on. (Basically: "what's the point of having redundant resolvers if they're both allowed to go offline at the same time?") The explanation was that one of the servers had malfunctioned, which was fixed, but the other one had been fine all along. It then became apparent that they were referring to a *different* ip for one of the pair of resolvers, than the one I had configured. And now it turns out that this new ISP expects all customers to run dhcp clients, even on the static IPs. This makes me uncomfortable. I have a lot of things set up under the assumption that my IP is *my* IP, and that it stays the same - as in *static* But on top of that, my setup really doesn't match the "single device that does all the things". ISPs reasoning is that changes such as replacing the IP of a resolver can be deployed in the network without much effort on their part, by using DHCP. And for this reason they simply do not support communicating such a change by any other method. So when they decided to replace one of the resolvers, they just did that, and changed the DHCP server to match. I do understand their POV, and if push comes to shove, I'm sure their legal department has this situation covered in the EULA somewhere. BUT: Aside from the "surprise element" that some misconfiguration of their DHCP server might provide, I am *also* not running a local resolver in the "uplink" jail. So even if the uplink *was* a DHCP client, I would still need to have the resolver info propagated to the "resolver jail" that I have for that purpose. So now finally the question(s): Is it feasible to run dhclient(8) on the uplink interface, but still have the interface itself be statically configured? And secondly, is there some method to propagate the options that dhclient receives from the server for other non-standard purposes? I am not very well acquainted with DHCP client stuffs, so all hints are welcome and appreciated. br /jon -- YMMV From nobody Mon Jan 6 21:14:17 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YRn4P47gnz5kDv8 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 21:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Received: from alisa.souji-thenria.net (alisa.souji-thenria.net [188.68.37.165]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YRn4N66sCz4dnd for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 21:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=souji-thenria.net; s=20231116; t=1736198061; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=U4mk2H63jSAxC42ypMP5tnOfxjXmDTBiIJTNKffIfIQ=; b=K1dgeNDRcpRX03ftbOzjkFm9McJRGUdEiyFerxZA9Jyk0TGi4T6WMvsr5RbheT3JDg3kkT /55Y/Gd98bWFjLMW0IufzyVaL1NRmEKd0ImKzoJnAqS0PKqYHKeSSFy+Sj+IL6XOIePp37 Xg8VR0RV67wFCKUlE5LpxWpezc9mnPLsxVx32vLIy2QD8i8plNHx7PGQg8mWhdgQ2DUpGB PoobLn1MgWjSOW6s/y56HcVwihpB5IsO8JyIPv2tZTzo4RJoj1YhPBe2mAY9L+9O2efLnX nJFWm0nEqKUSa9m3d9fzKsy1FXC4RmB+UpWClLBp845lHdCLTApsVKTnHeWenj6qItWX9u jHt19Sh9At+H3wIKNxFYr2bGAHmOtdajiCLBv4KDu0Cc4uH7+prczTp7QbHdU15QvhkdVN e0RjL/clR9WStHNXaAA+AlbnkM8Q4WH+gCn1ee+VqgZ5UO52hg3+IxBpQlShhuk6Q+CkG+ /VvZv1h/YgDKjumIa/olDj9AeVwgN7nMwWUuYVJY6JMJVUV1Ijlt38ssUk6QBJawzfDsx0 BIg9CoaWwO9n7xi5DTBatUkXeJxIBDl32/TFn+hzuKGrli9Mj/HVHbf6gW/0MWtzZT6BaW xLXmqJs2ANZNsLVzROTgKNai0L5nUTgZFiAel4uZhtkXS2wnBINdQ= Received: by alisa.souji-thenria.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 990de911 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 6 Jan 2025 22:14:19 +0100 (CET) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=1d78e85f644715ccde29a8085bc69240dc12c19af7af4052208ae7aa6bec; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 22:14:17 +0100 Message-Id: To: "Jon Clausen" , Subject: Re: running dhclient on a statically configured interface? From: "Souji Thenria" References: In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YRn4N66sCz4dnd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:188.68.32.0/20, country:DE] --1d78e85f644715ccde29a8085bc69240dc12c19af7af4052208ae7aa6bec Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=Flowed Hi Jon, On Mon Jan 6, 2025 at 6:57 PM CET, Jon Clausen wrote: > Is it feasible to run dhclient(8) on the uplink interface, but still > have > the interface itself be statically configured? You might be able to configure this in the dhclient.conf(5) file; Something like this: interface "ep0" { request domain-name-servers; } This should only request the DNS server and not anything else. However, I never tested this configuration... > > And secondly, is there some method to propagate the options that dhclient > receives from the server for other non-standard purposes? > I'm not sure what you mean by that. But DHCP supports custom options, and I'm sure you can configure it somehow in the dhclient.conf(5) file as well. 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To: Matt Timpson Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YRwwJ5zhBz4T9w X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 9:48=E2=80=AFPM Matt Timpson wrote: > > Hello, > > I have to assume they use slightly different instruction sets, right? Doe= s AMD64 just imply that the programmers wrote the software with AMD's parti= cular chips in mind? One of those annoying articles written by "Contributor= " sent me here, saying you don't use both terms interchangably. > There's lots of differences. Some 32 bit instructions have been retired and no longer exist on 64 bit cp= us. Those instructions that haven't been retired and still exist have to be expanded to include instruction 'parameters' to include new cpu registers. You could say, same instruction but larger depending on registers used. Not only this, the way parameters are passed to functions differs as well -- mostly. Stack vs registers. The 64 bit arch has a red zone, the 32 bit arch doesn't. I could go on and on, but when we're talking about architecture the above come to mind immediately. These can't be used interchangeably. Just try running a 64 bit OS of any kind on a 32bit cpu and well, it won't work. As an aside, 99.999% of programmers don't target their program for a specific chipset. They write generic code and a compiler does all the heavy lifting for them. I left .001% of the programmers that do, but they aren't in the wild. ~Paul From nobody Tue Jan 7 11:11:54 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YS7fx08fkz5kP34 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 11:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YS7fw5SKnz59L3 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 11:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e53a5ff2233so20932450276.3 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 03:12:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; t=1736248327; x=1736853127; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nRbWEaypad8uOdHURm3dG69+keI2AgQGPXi32mwDS9w=; b=O0474BZYKfztGAiuKnTFb88kBd+GmrkGzAx63J873DHRUE33F88tq5k+L/co/6sgKJ TMl8M3b3lBk+UcWhW6auhZ/r8p3lZ0aGIa0+d2uTMHiinzCrVOEzu9va5eTxs1quBFZZ 8pspYOse3NaRvBpQSgQevlOv/N9eE/0e9FBl3qselZV30l51G6n7zlRuw7VrgYyRiRys A3V7lNpif1YlsRlo0tK0Ur7FIfx2F8QpF5+4e3SclUZQstCK4JySFwRFrLBe+sDOoXqK xrTTTmZ34aM5EotXTxz1gVTfXquT8+iUf5tJ5iR6w77qyS/5QCBhnIR+IBUwv0pken0p 9bEA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1736248327; x=1736853127; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nRbWEaypad8uOdHURm3dG69+keI2AgQGPXi32mwDS9w=; b=XhOG0jYlfRnSkwmvT9jmC6SqiVHCazttE19tFa0gGAn9XjF3J3z8QUC7UEBA3yW5bJ vEToBKibaWMDogBfvC2+DbcPw//QZBsms/aKVFZSvOBzmjexU/XQe/YwtR8XZiFE/4g0 HZ8PQ+4x7Tn964u96EH4NaWBkqPUV0coOcEYLwVloQwqmRxj6MDBBbEu3sO/ysPfFbCr xUBJIALHXPga1d/Yjoa+qYQRJHno4b92nO1Ts+D4RNPc3jouSAlhCOjBBarPDYUDF8k9 +iC+WshSI6cKVvIkf2/xPs3oJau98yiGF89+pjWM2bHxQu5RqTMF1tm0ckUbGaBFhlZ2 lb9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzu4uwuTbAjnbuhxH9lGk8UJY0oWS4K18gp2UxlG2PaxtHvXYfV a/Owkuma+QgzBSDCQo6AguSyLDSL0AuFuagjLSTRK8hrsnELLuIgEWibB/1tR9HTCDOw+ai7T0I = X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctKvj3gFpy7flJCrJML7qsw9jc5RLa5grjVTtTYXg6SUdcTRwgMV0X6I4wnHJT Zkd+vrsQCIy3Dchp3l/VsF2UooIJ3QBQmuXIUWiiqBneZHJHjbWkKSOlAKhFy7qw0SM6Yz4ZgKN +aHSS+IIMtgzEovazS4yeJ8q91bbsGhj2MgHpUS4mMdjl4svvqeaZ9d3ZnzfjLnHLc+zV9W025y PXz9wkixHFhUT0DDtpNNntadyMNqlSLDVvGOYun85tP2gWsstN2brywkUXVyy3KtDksMapZPsXr aX1ECyNB5/6kN4GgMQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHlrikRfWT7DRWfLV7M7mNFlW2DjJSr6axmbFR6+pxQ0AC6wocg4o2TI0RXne8dg/npplzxIQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:11cf:b0:e39:87f0:7074 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e538c350cd3mr41505786276.35.1736248327065; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 03:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yb1-f182.google.com (mail-yb1-f182.google.com. [209.85.219.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 3f1490d57ef6-e537cf74da3sm9445057276.54.2025.01.07.03.12.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Jan 2025 03:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e46ebe19368so19664076276.0 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 03:12:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a25:c7c7:0:b0:e4d:25c6:c3a5 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e538c1e78abmr31700858276.2.1736248324414; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 03:12:04 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:11:54 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does the Project distinguish between AMD64 and x86? To: Matt Timpson Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009e6d4c062b1bd0d8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YS7fw5SKnz59L3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --0000000000009e6d4c062b1bd0d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" AMD64 is equal to x86_64 and means 64-bit CPU PC (AMD or Intel). x86 is for 32-bit CPU. 64-bit PC can run 32-bit OS, but not the other way 32-bit PC cannot run 64-bit OS. In addition to that you can fine tune FreeBSD to match your exact CPU but that requires kernel and modules and ports rebuild: https://wiki.freebsd.org/UsingCPUTYPE As simple as that :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info --0000000000009e6d4c062b1bd0d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
AMD64 is equal to x86_64 and means 64-bit CPU PC (AM= D or Intel).

x86 is for = 32-bit CPU.

64-bit PC ca= n run 32-bit OS, but not the other way 32-bit PC cannot run 64-bit OS.

In addition to that you can = fine tune FreeBSD to match your exact CPU but that requires kernel and modu= les and ports rebuild:

<= a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/UsingCPUTYPE">https://wiki.freebsd.org/U= singCPUTYPE

As simpl= e as that :-)

-= -
CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.to= mek.cedro.info
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Maybe check back with freebsd-current, "a developer might be interested" someone wrote :-) C. -- BOFH excuse #199: the curls in your keyboard cord are losing electricity. From nobody Tue Jan 7 18:59:23 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YSL2G2PK8z5jmMt for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 18:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@ymmv.dk) Received: from mail01.ymmv.dk (193-106-164-141.ip4.fiberby.net [193.106.164.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YSL2F4vNZz4qll for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 18:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@ymmv.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from c02qx0.local (193-106-164-140.ip4.fiberby.net [193.106.164.140]) by mail01.ymmv.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4588130F8C; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:59:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ymmv.dk; s=ymmv-mail-dkim; t=1736276366; bh=TOBKTVvCmt6Aas/vEPEYMTrfCpbl9HuuiyHugGhhWnk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=WQLew84hF/5xIK/PqtdstHInpT8b6T1WF3MNxBDUy4Wn4biI9wK4S8LpzvFo0+7B/ mjPYp0/m9cJvy/2af5OvRXJauIu/Z46o6zdoYZBuKZn+7dKxN+9jz4wSXH3sLAvakE G+P9NyRJ2+rSesQz8ws6yGypUPDvQph0Lq10ecbYxEhxn/DUthrsYB0kDZVyZgTvV0 g9Er61nxEUeY9ImNrpGj455FejA0ZccZkvb8CSw94DOdOgRfCr3Ko9V/7/K7fC9ytV CKwQ6BeE4tSHnl4qiU0uLwTMB5Kds5ivwZ7PNQ38PJ0oN+N9bj8DOxooQP/YhUBYpt 6R/6ki+99A7vA== Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 19:59:23 +0100 From: Jon Clausen To: questions@freebsd.org, Souji Thenria Subject: Re: running dhclient on a statically configured interface? Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YSL2F4vNZz4qll X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42541, ipnet:193.106.164.0/22, country:DK] Hi Souji On 2025-01-06 22:14:17 (+0100), Souji Thenria wrote: > Hi Jon, > > On Mon Jan 6, 2025 at 6:57 PM CET, Jon Clausen wrote: > > Is it feasible to run dhclient(8) on the uplink interface, but still > > have > > the interface itself be statically configured? > > You might be able to configure this in the dhclient.conf(5) file; > Something like this: > > interface "ep0" { > request domain-name-servers; > } Interesting. I'll definitely have to read the man page closer, though I suspect there's not a direct way to do what I'm fishing for. > This should only request the DNS server and not anything else. However, > I never tested this configuration... I think you're right. > > And secondly, is there some method to propagate the options that dhclient > > receives from the server for other non-standard purposes? > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by that. Some sort of "script hook" or something, dhclient could be configured to hand over the information from the dhcp server over to, so that I could create my own tooling to handle whatever the server provides. For the resolver info, for example: I would need to get that from the jail running the uplink, to the jail that handles dns. > But DHCP supports custom options, > and I'm sure you can configure it somehow in the dhclient.conf(5) file > as well. Having thought a little more about it, I think a better way of describing what I'd like might be: Sort of a "dry-run" option, that'll let the client listen on the network and report the offer from the server somewhere else - maybe just log it - but not actually let it reconfigure the network interface. Essentially, I'd just like to get notified if the servers offer changes, and make my decisions manually. Of course the real issue here is that I'm not happy about letting my ISP make changes to my devices unilaterally. I've seen enough fatfingering over the years to not really trust anyone... br /jon -- YMMV From nobody Tue Jan 7 20:27:54 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YSN0H6lP0z5jvjp for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 20:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Received: from alisa.souji-thenria.net (alisa.souji-thenria.net [188.68.37.165]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YSN0H3Lbsz43XV for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 20:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@souji-thenria.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=souji-thenria.net; s=20231116; t=1736281677; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7fPu6qB2BzSjdL0S6We7NJQIURrSU+YfRihFvlvIL08=; b=wXOJJcjEKjCwpdexmiXo4+YCgT93SUp3xTeF6sn4zoZ321qbsGQPV43MOyQJqGXuUdalDd yMzP3AbPgOhvoclruCMgI9gbwLDA5s//MtDXn9f4Fi/JqU2iXnrLXSxDDYKuG0vFWbiwvY LAky+WJV/OnRt2lFrkdm5vqkDT6+Uv86O2J3Y57Vu4aEXuBePtQPxFvV9ZEs6OA9yZEm9W DmXqYKoDvJXWfW9arBgCgWLafkX0reSrSP0/EwvbJgvkEbr7Rgsu4hhPTFR/Rnjfv4Lp9l J0TnXSwNstYLIWY7ec5yKCtUODOt/5Rq4VzIkC0OlzQvjl6nn9YRn1AMEBAQJ10J0uXigv 9Ko9iRIpg3G3PzFxtAWDCS+imi2/OAbNMj+vdwGNWSAdWXz8+G8b+3r3OW0rXJBF6C1O6g +GU8zEghNbDYsL1532sUAgDFy3skh0Ag/iVmqYql9L0U7xQSjolwHGaeDQP7rljwXDDqqA sQrFqK5W9AFZxEaOps7MRiXLENGioE9zDNQhoKobGvYvgNdPSZrnWKpLktO2Ob55Ti5eNf u3H4jXjbe/W7BfybKCkklPFKFyAOJo3I/S+WYc/qmdMclAa9O5kPKOAGez++ajJz+de2QO F58tDuRCRIkLfatT5vCk34JZVQAVZKAn9ploh/q9KobM1ywBWxZ/4= Received: by alisa.souji-thenria.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 4812c5b4 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 7 Jan 2025 21:27:55 +0100 (CET) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=55ca2710c50fe3532e3533d95c273ce04d1fd44e9cc5d2f136da4ce61df6; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 21:27:54 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: running dhclient on a statically configured interface? From: "Souji Thenria" To: "Jon Clausen" , References: In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YSN0H3Lbsz43XV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:197540, ipnet:188.68.36.0/22, country:DE] --55ca2710c50fe3532e3533d95c273ce04d1fd44e9cc5d2f136da4ce61df6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=Flowed Hi Jon, On Tue Jan 7, 2025 at 7:59 PM CET, Jon Clausen wrote: > Hi Souji > > On 2025-01-06 22:14:17 (+0100), Souji Thenria wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > > > On Mon Jan 6, 2025 at 6:57 PM CET, Jon Clausen wrote: > > > Is it feasible to run dhclient(8) on the uplink interface, but still > > > have > > > the interface itself be statically configured? > > > > You might be able to configure this in the dhclient.conf(5) file; > > Something like this: > > > > interface "ep0" { > > request domain-name-servers; > > } > > Interesting. I'll definitely have to read the man page closer, though I > suspect there's not a direct way to do what I'm fishing for. > > > This should only request the DNS server and not anything else. However, > > I never tested this configuration... > > I think you're right. > > > > And secondly, is there some method to propagate the options that dhclient > > > receives from the server for other non-standard purposes? > > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by that. > > Some sort of "script hook" or something, dhclient could be configured to > hand over the information from the dhcp server over to, so that I could > create my own tooling to handle whatever the server provides. > > For the resolver info, for example: > I would need to get that from the jail running the uplink, to the jail that > handles dns. > > > But DHCP supports custom options, > > and I'm sure you can configure it somehow in the dhclient.conf(5) file > > as well. > > Having thought a little more about it, I think a better way of describing > what I'd like might be: > > Sort of a "dry-run" option, that'll let the client listen on the network and > report the offer from the server somewhere else - maybe just log it - but > not actually let it reconfigure the network interface. > > Essentially, I'd just like to get notified if the servers offer changes, and > make my decisions manually. > > Thanks for the explanation. I now get what you are trying to do. Based on what I have seen on the man pages, dhclient won't be the right tool. Some ideas, what you could do, there are probably better ones...: 1. Use other public DNS servers e.g. Cloudflare/Google/etc... 2. Write a shell script that uses other CLI tools. There are some tools that are mainly used for debugging purposes, but they might do what you are looking for (like dhcping and dhcpdump.) 3. Modify the source code of the dhclient tool to fit your needs. 4. It's time to run your own DNS resolver. > Of course the real issue here is that I'm not happy about letting my > ISP > make changes to my devices unilaterally. > > I've seen enough fatfingering over the years to not really trust anyone... > > > br > /jon I feel like, in that case, your best options are 1 and 4 of the above list. Regards, Souji -- Souji Thenria Website: www.souji-thenria.net --55ca2710c50fe3532e3533d95c273ce04d1fd44e9cc5d2f136da4ce61df6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSG4/SRE6pqved9MLdAFYmA9YTsaAUCZ32OSwAKCRBAFYmA9YTs aOPvAQCnYomvcEStRavbe+tYZsql1q3qjSLXr/a0B9x31C33TQD9EEQtsRqYBhF8 uF8+V4u+Ho8hswjRX4eLpB5Rl9jzAww= =2KAa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --55ca2710c50fe3532e3533d95c273ce04d1fd44e9cc5d2f136da4ce61df6-- From nobody Tue Jan 7 21:10:48 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YSNxw152Lz5jyZw for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 21:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpiero@rm-rf.it) Received: from charlotte.rm-rf.it (charlotte.rm-rf.it [149.28.228.198]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YSNxv3qTXz47Bs for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 21:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpiero@rm-rf.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gpiero@rm-rf.it designates 149.28.228.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gpiero@rm-rf.it; dmarc=none Received: from valentina.fdc.rm-rf.it (valentina.fdc.rm-rf.it [192.168.192.1]) by charlotte.fdc.rm-rf.it (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 94449b85 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:10:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from marcopolo.fdc.rm-rf.it (marcopolo.fdc.rm-rf.it [192.168.192.51]) by valentina.fdc.rm-rf.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12F91F6CD for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:10:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by marcopolo.fdc.rm-rf.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C700C1C4CF5; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 22:10:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:10:48 +0100 From: Gian Piero Carrubba To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running dhclient on a statically configured interface? 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Well, that's how dhclient works. Check /sbin/dhclient-script and the script parameter in dhclient.conf. Ciao, Gian Piero. 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Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1izcypH/AO5tsfxP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: https://www.FreeBSD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 --1izcypH/AO5tsfxP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 8 January 2025 at 3:30:36 +0000, Matt Timpson wrote: > > I know this goes beyond what most people ought to know, but I ask > just for the sake of completeness. A lot depends on what you want to do, and it's not quite clear. If your "raw binary" is really machine code, then most debuggers have a way of disassembling code and converting it to assembler. There are probably more comfortable methods; a search for " disassembler" will certainly bring results. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Sent from my desktop computer. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. 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[80.115.226.119]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d99046dd55sm1867552a12.54.2025.01.10.11.19.18 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:19:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:19:17 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Installer asks for password and crashes downloading packages Content-Language: en-US References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tzsz In-Reply-To: X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YVBKl02p3z4P1B X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::541:from] Hello everyone, I was just about to install FreeBSD to my T430 laptop when I encountered two small issues. I am using FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly 1) The installation was aborted when the installer couldn't find the sets on the finish ftp mirror. I have to lovely situation that I do not get a IPv6 address from my internet provider and therefore I have to use v4 mirrors. With almost all software I use, I go for some german mirrors but all of them were v6 only, so I tried the finnish ftp. However, for some reason there were multiple sets missing on this server (incl base) and the installer aborted the installation process instead of giving me the option to select a new mirror. Although this is annoying because I'd have to type my ZFS-encryption password again, it is completely manageable. I could just use a different mirror or use an installation medium that has these sets already included. And I would not have written this mail if I didn't encounter: 2) The installer asks for my ZFS password?! After the installation failed, I tried to run the installer a second time - now with a different mirror. I did not reboot the machine because I was given the option to simply restart the process. When I got to the Auto-ZFS setup, I was unable to select any disk. The installer said that there were no disks available. I changed to a different tty and used 'camcontrol devlist' and my drive was listed there. So I rebooted the machine but now I was asked to put in the password I setup in the first (unsuccessful) installation attempt. Only after that I was able to boot from usb again and launch the installer another time. I am 100% certain that I did not select the USB for installation before. I even flashed the USB another time but it would still ask me for the disk password before I can boot from USB. And yes, I did select the USB in the boot menu. I have installed FreeBSD many times but this confuses me and does not seem to be the intended behavior. So I thought I would write a mail about this. Also while writing this and staring at the laptop, it seems to restart every so often while waiting for the disk password. I have never seen this before. I'll probably try a different image now but I am still very unsure if I should proceed with the installation when he asks me for the disk password. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YVDRx56tWz4Zr5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.85 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.956]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rail.eu.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rail.eu.org:s=m2024]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:176.9.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rail.eu.org:+] I am looking to rent a bare metal server with an Intel 219_LM Nic. I see several problems with early FreeBSD 13, but s=does it work correctly with 14.2 ? Thanks From nobody Fri Jan 10 22:17:13 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YVGHF0zbTz5kgcs for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from ns0.genyosha.net (ns0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.220]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "float.home.genyosha.net", Issuer "float.home.genyosha.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YVGHD4BmFz4n52 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (ops0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.219]) by ns0.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 50AMHJbP064603 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:17:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 50AMHEiP023178; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:17:14 -0800 Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 50AMHDs7023177; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:17:13 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:17:13 -0800 From: Steve Rikli To: Erwan David Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD 14.2 and Intel 219_LM Message-ID: References: <4758adab-4447-4e3a-8e7d-924ed97713e3@rail.eu.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4758adab-4447-4e3a-8e7d-924ed97713e3@rail.eu.org> X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.220]); Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:17:21 -0800 (PST) for IP:'50.39.243.219' DOMAIN:'ops0.genyosha.net' HELO:'dragon.home.genyosha.net' FROM:'sr@genyosha.net' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.220]); Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:17:21 -0800 (PST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YVGHD4BmFz4n52 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20055, ipnet:50.39.128.0/17, country:US] On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 09:54:43PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > I am looking to rent a bare metal server with an Intel 219_LM Nic. > > I see several problems with early FreeBSD 13, but s=does it work correctly > with 14.2 ? I have a Lenovo m920q with that NIC, running 14.2 OK: em0: mem 0xb1200000-0xb121ffff at device 31.6 on pci0 em0: EEPROM V0.5-4 em0: Using 1024 TX descriptors and 1024 RX descriptors em0: Using an MSI interrupt em0: netmap queues/slots: TX 1/1024, RX 1/1024 00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (7) I219-LM (rev 10) >-------Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3136 >-------Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- >ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+ >-------Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- >SERR- -------Latency: 0 >-------Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 255 >-------Region 0: Memory at b1200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) >-------Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3 >------->-------Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA >PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) >------->-------Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME- >-------Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ >------->-------Address: 00000000fee08000 Data: 0033 I haven't stressed or measured for performance etc. but it's been entirely functional here. Fwiw there are a few hits for Intel I219 on https://bsd-hardware.info/ . Cheers, sr. 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Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YVWH73RJHz4vJt X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ymmv.dk:s=ymmv-mail-dkim]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42541, ipnet:193.106.164.0/22, country:DK]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ymmv.dk]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ymmv.dk:+] On 2025-01-07 22:10:48 (+0100), Gian Piero Carrubba wrote: > * [Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 07:59:23PM +0100] Jon Clausen: > > Some sort of "script hook" or something, dhclient could be configured to > > hand over the information from the dhcp server over to, so that I could > > create my own tooling to handle whatever the server provides. > > Well, that's how dhclient works. Check /sbin/dhclient-script and the script > parameter in dhclient.conf. ...heh :) I had actually seen the script option in dhclient.conf(5) but had not looked at /sbin/dhclient-script - so thanks for pointing it out. There's probably no way around setting up some "lab conditions" before I start butchering dhclient-script, but from my cursory glance at the script it should be quite feasible to do what I want. So now I have to decide what exactly it *is* that I want... 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 10/01/2025 19:19, tzsz wrote: > … I rebooted the machine but now I was asked to put in the password I > setup in the first (unsuccessful) installation attempt. Only after > that I was able to boot from usb again and launch the installer > another time .… That's normal. If the partly unsuccessful installation did successfully apply encryption, then the loader (on a USB memory stick or wherever) will detect the encryption. The prompt for a password is proper. If you think of the partition as locked: the loader can not tell whether what's in the partition is good or bad. --------------3VQvdkWnSL7Bk2qMpdfezAag Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 10/01/2025 19:19, tzsz wrote:
… I rebooted the machine but now I was asked to put in the password I setup in the first (unsuccessful) installation attempt. Only after that I was able to boot from usb again and launch the installer another time .…


That's normal.

If the partly unsuccessful installation did successfully apply encryption, then the loader (on a USB memory stick or wherever) will detect the encryption.

The prompt for a password is proper.

If you think of the partition as locked: the loader can not tell whether what's in the partition is good or bad.

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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 10/01/2025 19:19, tzsz wrote: > … restart every so often while waiting for the disk password. I have > never seen this before. I discussed this in FreeBSD Discord. The timeout may be in Firmware, not a feature of FreeBSD. I see the same behaviour with an old HP ZBook 17 G2. in 2015 naively suggested a shutdown (not a restart) after five minutes. --------------eMS8TSi6KjDIauid3fKGGN0i Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 10/01/2025 19:19, tzsz wrote:
… restart every so often while waiting for the disk password. I have never seen this before.

I discussed this in FreeBSD Discord. 

The timeout may be in Firmware, not a feature of FreeBSD. I see the same behaviour with an old HP ZBook 17 G2.

<https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=205691> in 2015 naively suggested a shutdown (not a restart) after five minutes.

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