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I tried > on my laptop change to rec: > > > > # mixer speaker.recsrc=3Dadd > > mixer: speaker.recsrc=3Dadd: Operation not supported by device > > pcm1:mixer: on hdaa1 (play/rec) (default) > > vol =3D 1.00:1.00 pbk > > pcm =3D 1.00:1.00 pbk > > speaker =3D 1.00:1.00 pbk > > rec =3D 0.01:0.01 pbk > > monitor =3D 0.56:0.56 rec src > > > > But I can't do that. Perhaps you can: > > > > # mixer speaker.recsrc=3Dremove I just reinstalled FreeBSD and think I will stick it out t longer.. not going to install a window manager just yet cause I want to make sure sound is working.. this is crucial > > --0000000000007ac36d063831f279 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM Joe B <jcb2016az@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:22=E2=80=AFPM Eduardo Morr= =C3=A1s <emorrasg= @yahoo.es> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 18:38:57 -0700
> Joe B <jcb= 2016az@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > pcm1:mixer: <Conexant CX20751/2 (Analog)> on hdaa1 (pl= ay/rec)
> > > (default) vol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.= 00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speaker=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.01:0.= 01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0monitor=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.56:0.56=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec src
>
> The pcm1 above shows my speaker, it's on pbk playback mode.
>
> >
> > joe@freebsd ~> mixer -d pcm0
> > default_unit: 0 -> 0
> > pcm0:mixer: <Realtek (0x0287) (Analog)> on hdaa0 (play/rec)= (default)
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speaker=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0rec
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mic=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.75:0.75=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec src
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.37:0.37=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> >
> > Does that mean its muted ? how would i change the volume ? sorry = for
> > the n00b questions.. im reading snd_hda (4) as much as i can
>
> But yours is on rec mode, don't know how to change to pbk mode. I = tried on my laptop change to rec:
>
> # mixer speaker.recsrc=3Dadd
> mixer: speaker.recsrc=3Dadd: Operation not supported by device
> pcm1:mixer: <Conexant CX20751/2 (Analog)> on hdaa1 (play/rec) (d= efault)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speaker=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.01:0.01=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0monitor=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.56:0.56=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0rec src
>
> But I can't do that. Perhaps you can:
>
> # mixer speaker.recsrc=3Dremove

I just reinstalled FreeBSD and think I will stick it ou= t t longer.. not going to install a window manager just yet cause I want to= make sure sound is working.. this is crucial=C2=A0

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On Mon, Jun 23,= 2025 at 3:04=E2=80=AFAM Joe B <j= cb2016az@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 5:23=E2=80=AFPM Joe B <jcb2016az@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
On Fri= , Jun 20, 2025 at 10:22=E2=80=AFPM Eduardo Morr=C3=A1s <emorrasg@yahoo.es> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 18:38:57 -0700
> Joe B <jcb= 2016az@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > pcm1:mixer: <Conexant CX20751/2 (Analog)> on hdaa1 (pl= ay/rec)
> > > (default) vol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.= 00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speaker=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.01:0.= 01=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0monitor=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.56:0.56=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec src
>
> The pcm1 above shows my speaker, it's on pbk playback mode.
>
> >
> > joe@freebsd ~> mixer -d pcm0
> > default_unit: 0 -> 0
> > pcm0:mixer: <Realtek (0x0287) (Analog)> on hdaa0 (play/rec)= (default)
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speaker=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0rec
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mic=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.75:0.75=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec src
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.37:0.37=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
> >
> > Does that mean its muted ? how would i change the volume ? sorry = for
> > the n00b questions.. im reading snd_hda (4) as much as i can
>
> But yours is on rec mode, don't know how to change to pbk mode. I = tried on my laptop change to rec:
>
> # mixer speaker.recsrc=3Dadd
> mixer: speaker.recsrc=3Dadd: Operation not supported by device
> pcm1:mixer: <Conexant CX20751/2 (Analog)> on hdaa1 (play/rec) (d= efault)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vol=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pcm=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0speaker=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 1.00:1.00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rec=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.01:0.01=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0pbk
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0monitor=C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D 0.56:0.56=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0rec src
>
> But I can't do that. Perhaps you can:
>
> # mixer speaker.recsrc=3Dremove

I just reinstalled FreeBSD and think I will stick it ou= t t longer.. not going to install a window manager just yet cause I want to= make sure sound is working.. this is crucial=C2=A0

If you want a FreeBSD machine with sound, get on= e of the Desktop versions -=C2=A0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9Xm52v1D8qo&= amp;t=3D178s.
Or just use your favorite Linux flavor and run FreeBSD= as a VM. Less pain!


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Nairobi,KE
+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223<= /div>
=C2=A0In=C2=A0an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a c= onstant: DNS.
"Oh, the cruf= t.",=C2=A0egrep -v '^$|^.*#'=C2=A0=C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2= =A0:-)
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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000533523063839a919" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bQjB06Dy1z3bPK X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --000000000000533523063839a919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 7:44=E2=80=AFPM Xavier B. = wrote: > I installed samba420 (version samba420-4.20.7_4). After, run service > samba_server start I get: > > # service samba_server start > Performing sanity check on Samba configuration: OK > nmbd already running? (pid=3D1411). > Starting smbd. > ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libavahi-client.so.3" not found, required by > "libsmbd-base-private-samba.so" > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba_server: WARNING: failed to start smbd > > I installed avahi (version avahi-0.8) but the same results happened. > > Thanks in advance, > Xavier > cd /usr/ports/net/samba420 && make config Enable the option of AVAHI that you need, then: make reinstall clean --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] --000000000000533523063839a919 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Jun 22,= 2025 at 7:44=E2=80=AFPM Xavier B. <somenxavier@posteo.net> wrote:
I installed samba420 (version samba420-4.20.7_4= ). After, run service samba_server start I get:

# service samba_server start
Performing sanity check on Samba configuration: OK
nmbd already running?=C2=A0 (pid=3D1411).
Starting smbd.
ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libavahi-client.so.3" not found, requ= ired by "libsmbd-base-private-samba.so"
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba_server: WARNING: failed to start smbd

I installed avahi (version avahi-0.8) but the same results happened.

Thanks in advance,
Xavier

cd=C2=A0/usr/ports/net/samba420 = && make config
Enable the option of AVAHI that you need, = then:
make reinstall clean=C2=A0


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Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254 7 3200 = 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
=C2=A0I= n=C2=A0an Internet failure case,= the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS.
"Oh, the cruft.",=C2= =A0egrep -v '^$|^.*#'=C2=A0= =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2=A0:-)
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This seems reasonable as probably no one > launches new projects on i386, armv6, or powerpc. However, the story > with armv7 is a little bit different. >=20 > Armv7 is omnipresent on SoC platforms with FPGAs. > Not so long ago, AMD extended the lifecycle of its 7 Series SoCs to > 2040. I started using FreeBSD on 32-bit armv7 SoC platforms a few > weeks ago. My experience is surprisingly good. > It is much easier to use and maintain than the official PetaLinux > released by AMD. >=20 > I would like to incorporate FreeBSD into embedded classes at the > university. I am also thinking about using it in a commercial project. > However, the uncertainty of future support for armv7 makes me > reluctant. >=20 > Does anyone have more up-to-date information on whether armv7 support > will also be dropped and potentially when? >=20 > I have also recently noticed that FreeBSD journal issues from May to > December 2024 had columns dedicated to embedded FreeBSD. All of them > were written by Christopher R. Bowman, and utilized Zynq-7000 SoC, > which is armv7 based. I thought that the FreeBSD Foundation's actions > are somehow coordinated with the FreeBSD development. What would be > the point of promoting something that a few months earlier was marked > as a 'potentially deprecated'. >=20 See https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ for official statement about platform support. Also https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/schedule/ for upcomming 15.0-RELEASE schedule. 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FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bQytZ4TR2z3Gp7 X-Spamd-Bar: + On 22/06/2025 07:31, Ramiro Aceves wrote: > Hello, > > After a 14.1-14.3 FreeBSD system update I tried to upgrade packages. > pkg-static segfaulted this way. > > … > > Number of packages to be removed: 3 > Number of packages to be installed: 25 > Number of packages to be upgraded: 526 > Number of packages to be reinstalled: 500 > > The process will require 2 GiB more space. > > Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y > Child process pid=63665 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault > How much memory? Did you attempt the upgrade in vt (e.g. ttyv1), or whilst using a desktop environment? 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I do not use drm-510-kmod, it is not installed, why it is built here?? o_O I also found someone with the same problem but no solution at https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/issues/337. Any hints welcome :-) # cat /etc/make.conf DEVELOPER=3Dyes DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dssl=3Dlibressl MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3D24 #WITH_DEBUG_PORTS=3D comms/limesuite WRKDIRPREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/ports # git branch main * releng/14.2 # pwd /usr/src # make buildkernel -j24 (..) cc -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd14.2 --sysroot=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -g -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ck/include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/libfdt -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer -fdebug-prefix-map=3D./machine=3D/usr/src/sys/amd64/include -fdebug-prefix-map=3D./x86=3D/usr/src/sys/x86/include -fdebug-prefix-map=3D./i386=3D/usr/src/sys/i386/include -mcmodel=3Dkernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv -fstack-protector -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -D__printf__=3D__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-error=3Dtautological-compare -Wno-error=3Dempty-body -Wno-error=3Dparentheses-equality -Wno-error=3Dunused-function -Wno-error=3Dpointer-sign -Wno-error=3Dshift-negative-value -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-format-zero-length -mno-aes -mno-avx -std=3Dgnu99 -Werror vers.c ctfconvert -L VERSION -g vers.o --- kernel.full --- linking kernel.full ctfmerge -L VERSION -g -o kernel.full ... text data bss dec hex filename 20055000 1605377 4685440 26345817 0x1920159 kernel.full --- kernel.debug --- objcopy --only-keep-debug kernel.full kernel.debug --- kernel --- objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=3Dkernel.debug kernel.full kerne= l --- all --- =3D=3D=3D> Ports module graphics/drm-510-kmod (all) cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-510-kmod; env -u CC -u CXX -u CPP -u MAKESYSPATH -u MK_AUTO_OBJ -u MAKEOBJDIR MAKEFLAGS=3D"-j 24 -J 15,16 -j 24 -J 15,16 -D NO_MODULES_OBJ KERNEL=3Dkernel TARGET=3Damd64 TARGET_ARCH=3Damd64" SYSDIR=3D/usr/src/sys PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tm= p/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.= amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/= usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp= /legacy/usr/libexec::/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/loca= l/sbin SRC_BASE=3D/usr/src OSVERSION=3D1402000 WRKDIRPREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/port= s make -B clean build =3D=3D=3D> Cleaning for drm-510-kmod-5.10.163.1402000_12 =3D=3D=3D> drm-510-kmod-5.10.163.1402000_12 not supported on FreeBSD 14.2 = and higher. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[3]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-510-kmod *** [all] Error code 1 make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC 1 error make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC 51.68 real 890.11 user 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ipnet:40.80.0.0/12, country:US]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bR5dB44XLz40xs X-Spamd-Bar: ++ On 6/23/25 17:31, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > Hello world :-) > > I am trying to build custom kernel to test a driver, kernel seems to > build fine but then a graphics/drm-510-kmod build kicks in and fails. > I do not use drm-510-kmod, it is not installed, why it is built here?? > o_O Do you have PORTS_MODULES defined (/etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf)? You can confirm its definition with the output of: `make -VPORTS_MODULES -C /usr/src/` > I also found someone with the same problem but no solution at > https://github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod/issues/337. > > Any hints welcome :-) > > # cat /etc/make.conf > DEVELOPER=yes > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=ssl=libressl > MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=24 > #WITH_DEBUG_PORTS= comms/limesuite > WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/ports > > > # git branch > main > * releng/14.2 > > # pwd > /usr/src > > # make buildkernel -j24 > (..) > > cc -target x86_64-unknown-freebsd14.2 > --sysroot=/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp > -B/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin -c -O2 -pipe > -fno-strict-aliasing -g -nostdinc -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ck/include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/libfdt > -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h > -fno-common -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mno-omit-leaf-frame-pointer > -fdebug-prefix-map=./machine=/usr/src/sys/amd64/include > -fdebug-prefix-map=./x86=/usr/src/sys/x86/include > -fdebug-prefix-map=./i386=/usr/src/sys/i386/include -mcmodel=kernel > -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -mno-sse -msoft-float > -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fwrapv > -fstack-protector -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > -D__printf__=__freebsd_kprintf__ -Wmissing-include-dirs > -fdiagnostics-show-option -Wno-unknown-pragmas > -Wno-error=tautological-compare -Wno-error=empty-body > -Wno-error=parentheses-equality -Wno-error=unused-function > -Wno-error=pointer-sign -Wno-error=shift-negative-value > -Wno-address-of-packed-member -Wno-format-zero-length -mno-aes > -mno-avx -std=gnu99 -Werror vers.c > ctfconvert -L VERSION -g vers.o > --- kernel.full --- > linking kernel.full > ctfmerge -L VERSION -g -o kernel.full ... > text data bss dec hex filename > 20055000 1605377 4685440 26345817 0x1920159 kernel.full > --- kernel.debug --- > objcopy --only-keep-debug kernel.full kernel.debug > --- kernel --- > objcopy --strip-debug --add-gnu-debuglink=kernel.debug kernel.full kernel > --- all --- > ===> Ports module graphics/drm-510-kmod (all) > cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-510-kmod; env -u CC -u CXX -u CPP -u > MAKESYSPATH -u MK_AUTO_OBJ -u MAKEOBJDIR MAKEFLAGS="-j 24 -J 15,16 > -j 24 -J 15,16 -D NO_MODULES_OBJ KERNEL=kernel TARGET=amd64 > TARGET_ARCH=amd64" SYSDIR=/usr/src/sys > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/legacy/usr/libexec::/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin > SRC_BASE=/usr/src OSVERSION=1402000 WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/ports > make -B clean build > ===> Cleaning for drm-510-kmod-5.10.163.1402000_12 > ===> drm-510-kmod-5.10.163.1402000_12 not supported on FreeBSD 14.2 and > higher. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > make[3]: stopped in /usr/ports/graphics/drm-510-kmod > *** [all] Error code 1 > > make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC > 1 error > > make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC > 51.68 real 890.11 user 80.91 sys > > make[1]: stopped in /usr/src > > make: stopped in /usr/src > > From nobody Tue Jun 24 01:59:14 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bR7Rp6zZRz605vc for ; 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It worked well before the upgrade with my bluetooth s= peaker:

ugen1.6: <Realtek Bluetooth Radio> a= t usbus1
ubt0 on uhub1
ubt0: <Realtek Bluetooth Radio, class 224/1= , rev 1.10/1.10, addr 5> on usbus1

Now even= with=C2=A0ng_ubt kernel module loader it's does not bind to ubt0
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[37.11.37.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4535e983a4bsm162997475e9.13.2025.06.23.20.58.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 05:58:25 +0200 From: Ramiro Aceves To: questions@freebsd.org, Graham Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg-static upgrade -f segmentation fault User-Agent: Thunderbird for Android In-Reply-To: <2da9d175-4e3d-4c76-9269-87c9518a4c7d@gmail.com> References: <6cd6adf6-6365-4685-b444-3fddebe60207@gmail.com> <2da9d175-4e3d-4c76-9269-87c9518a4c7d@gmail.com> Message-ID: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRB562l3Fz3sj2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] El 23 de junio de 2025 21:33:33 CEST, Graham Perrin escribi=C3=B3: >On 22/06/2025 07:31, Ramiro Aceves wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> After a 14=2E1-14=2E3 FreeBSD system update I tried to upgrade packages= =2E pkg-static segfaulted this way=2E >>=20 >> =E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> Number of packages to be removed: 3 >> Number of packages to be installed: 25 >> Number of packages to be upgraded: 526 >> Number of packages to be reinstalled: 500 >>=20 >> The process will require 2 GiB more space=2E >>=20 >> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y >> Child process pid=3D63665 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault >>=20 >How much memory? > Hello Graham, Thanks for answering: 16 GB RAM=2E =20 >Did you attempt the upgrade in vt (e=2Eg=2E ttyv1), or whilst using a des= ktop environment? Upgrade was under ssh session=2E > >Also: > >freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU 14=2E3-RELEASE 14=2E3-RELEASE 14=2E3-RELEASE FreeBSD freebsd-nuc 14=2E3-RELEASE FreeBSD 14=2E3-RELEASE releng/14=2E3-n2= 71432-8c9ce319fef7 GENERIC amd64 1403000 1403000 root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiroot@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg repos -el | sort -f root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg repos -el | sort -f FreeBSD FreeBSD-kmods root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg repos -e root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg repos -e FreeBSD: { url : "pkg+https://pkg=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg/FreeBSD:14:amd64/qu= arterly", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } FreeBSD-kmods: { url : "pkg+https://pkg=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg/FreeBSD:14:amd64/km= ods_quarterly_3", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg -v root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg -v 2=2E2=2E0 root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg prime-origins | sort -u root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg prime-origins | sort -u astro/xephem comms/rtl-sdr devel/autoconf devel/gdb devel/git devel/nasm editors/vim graphics/drm-kmod graphics/gphoto2 lang/gcc13 multimedia/dvb-apps multimedia/ffmpeg4 multimedia/libvdpau-va-gl multimedia/w_scan2 multimedia/webcamd ports-mgmt/dialog4ports ports-mgmt/pkg sysutils/coreutils sysutils/debootstrap sysutils/screen x11-fonts/urwfonts x11-wm/xfce4 x11/xorg root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # I filled a bug report there: https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D287738 Say that they are trying to fix it=2E Thanks so much=2E Regards=20 Ramiro > > From nobody Tue Jun 24 03:58:25 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRB565ZCFz60DV2; 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[37.11.37.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-4535e983a4bsm162997475e9.13.2025.06.23.20.58.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 05:58:25 +0200 From: Ramiro Aceves To: questions@freebsd.org, Graham Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg-static upgrade -f segmentation fault User-Agent: Thunderbird for Android In-Reply-To: <2da9d175-4e3d-4c76-9269-87c9518a4c7d@gmail.com> References: <6cd6adf6-6365-4685-b444-3fddebe60207@gmail.com> <2da9d175-4e3d-4c76-9269-87c9518a4c7d@gmail.com> Message-ID: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRB562l3Fz3sj2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] El 23 de junio de 2025 21:33:33 CEST, Graham Perrin escribi=C3=B3: >On 22/06/2025 07:31, Ramiro Aceves wrote: >> Hello, >>=20 >> After a 14=2E1-14=2E3 FreeBSD system update I tried to upgrade packages= =2E pkg-static segfaulted this way=2E >>=20 >> =E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> Number of packages to be removed: 3 >> Number of packages to be installed: 25 >> Number of packages to be upgraded: 526 >> Number of packages to be reinstalled: 500 >>=20 >> The process will require 2 GiB more space=2E >>=20 >> Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y >> Child process pid=3D63665 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault >>=20 >How much memory? > Hello Graham, Thanks for answering: 16 GB RAM=2E =20 >Did you attempt the upgrade in vt (e=2Eg=2E ttyv1), or whilst using a des= ktop environment? Upgrade was under ssh session=2E > >Also: > >freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # freebsd-version -kru ; uname -aKU 14=2E3-RELEASE 14=2E3-RELEASE 14=2E3-RELEASE FreeBSD freebsd-nuc 14=2E3-RELEASE FreeBSD 14=2E3-RELEASE releng/14=2E3-n2= 71432-8c9ce319fef7 GENERIC amd64 1403000 1403000 root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiroot@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg repos -el | sort -f root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg repos -el | sort -f FreeBSD FreeBSD-kmods root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg repos -e root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg repos -e FreeBSD: { url : "pkg+https://pkg=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg/FreeBSD:14:amd64/qu= arterly", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } FreeBSD-kmods: { url : "pkg+https://pkg=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg/FreeBSD:14:amd64/km= ods_quarterly_3", enabled : yes, priority : 0, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg -v root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg -v 2=2E2=2E0 root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # > >pkg prime-origins | sort -u root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # pkg prime-origins | sort -u astro/xephem comms/rtl-sdr devel/autoconf devel/gdb devel/git devel/nasm editors/vim graphics/drm-kmod graphics/gphoto2 lang/gcc13 multimedia/dvb-apps multimedia/ffmpeg4 multimedia/libvdpau-va-gl multimedia/w_scan2 multimedia/webcamd ports-mgmt/dialog4ports ports-mgmt/pkg sysutils/coreutils sysutils/debootstrap sysutils/screen x11-fonts/urwfonts x11-wm/xfce4 x11/xorg root@freebsd-nuc:/home/ramiro # I filled a bug report there: https://bugs=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/bugzilla/show_bug=2Ecgi?id=3D287738 Say that they are trying to fix it=2E Thanks so much=2E Regards=20 Ramiro > > From nobody Tue Jun 24 05:55:07 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRDgg2wxgz60LML for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 05:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.65]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRDgf70pFz3h5K for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 05:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29291240027 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 07:55:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=posteo.net; s=1984.ea087b; t=1750744508; bh=Xqw4R67wXXx+rJUtiO5d++/B2gYPJS17sJp1yqCuK5k=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=VjFwc5UQl4bKlcG2DuBiAbzct88goHpu4A0HXgzP0yjqNHy40IomIo8mDUO1PCGKN R1HVJnY1c40cqJMrShUdxsM+zUyV7P0ouIpEsSOZmWZy2o92t21iiNBaTNNJah01xq 26lVoMVX0ddc6h0/tzDLUBsOQF4UTIJW1YQ+lO7bDLa8G1RKrwUPGFXVGLW7uWaQ0s itbA7TeifTKFA4rqeOxjAmiVN7XKn2nciaPp4qx9VhkOwwSuEGox26AnKt2HVlLIeX LJDknhuTkIHMMIXmmmvwsCvSGRj0V2y02p6v9dGUsv6oUapr4P5fxvxvQjKpPZNYbA D3s+F8x3iObZ02z8f/ywsMSErYQfticNFeXNJV5If7no9TNDyNwciiKhKl0dOph1xL GZEgJN9fUSuhx/yvtCw6+h5YdOySKxxP/dkexgmZtasB/AY4TcFJUvj7I2q0Kdivh2 Z+QA1qPEU1t5Lo2hJl7wTwSmoKc5Puybikj8EfEc0DryPtrUjmg Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4bRDgb40YBz6tsf; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 07:55:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 05:55:07 +0000 From: "Xavier B." To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba Message-Id: <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20250622184107.a3341dc042a3432b31ceac13@posteo.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRDgf70pFz3h5K X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8495, ipnet:185.67.36.0/23, country:DE] Thanks but I do not have the directory /usr/ports/net/samba420: # cd /usr/ports/net/sa* sacc/ sakisafecli/ samba412/ samba413/ samplicator/ savvycan/ Regards, > > cd /usr/ports/net/samba420 && make config > Enable the option of AVAHI that you need, then: > make reinstall clean From nobody Tue Jun 24 06:18:06 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRFBz6njzz60MKn for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRFBz4nTYz3q25 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ade33027bcfso9276366b.1 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 23:18:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1750745924; x=1751350724; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=TdZ3ogCf7Ce/Tc+k/67aUmkDUm2DEk8NgKi1q4wWqA4=; b=nTHpu0cUF07ErVYezyk20w1nttNOccHVadBhpDww5A7BIuWSLXjHXojLUdsCYTNru1 WgJP2m4Hht8ue7fotRjzjoRvw3JS+qa5wLfLn81Of+J3B/5cBYabn2+ymt3vs+4kMkPG t0CA7lFtkIgFmL24ZPEw5IB8GZKziVYgizUKz8NBotlx7erJITf0LV8sjU0DHvY11x+B pGGDS7C/XjicIkhTAfU2IAmgiosw9NHROWEyjbkbmMJc4Qly2Xvyw1NN8diNI06ftnMy vt4NXlB7mCsq5JMS5fdp8pKlRRAfX02kNWkaWxrp6PwyLUpIvblJfE9D3wnj9ES2vkxj 2MtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1750745924; x=1751350724; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=TdZ3ogCf7Ce/Tc+k/67aUmkDUm2DEk8NgKi1q4wWqA4=; b=bmydp61t0qfvqkXxZf747ioUY2crrJbrskn9Tyzcp/CGlpk7DnKDjBaE8+6BcMr7op GVafAo5qQeYM6oZDKnTyasdKovaTKzXzZO4bv3/Hd+RPBemciF1xjEE0Kikyel6QVyfj mVpDU13xBnKs1BlI+iyzXozQSYr0f3hiPJIhJBEbPAFKHSB7Lrjhg5lWukowV/dd41x7 RDDF7zw6dh8AobztlhyUSIbLrbyU14AYyhMlY6zv3cT/o0Ez08vDMtNDfdAn9r2mDb6B XCi9qmixORPjfi/FGfb3Z8g1xbcAvMLAO4ZzwrOc71/XpX2/NtOWb9zsaZBICVLr/PZh IsFg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWEu3q2stsfTaG0tRckQpByc0K8SiRZk2PfYqVEHMcdiVkbVyibFBe3CMBTrki/s/25oXftgMdBgp+NpREC8MfGCw==@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzTGThEUC8J/+BFX5GVq1+RWBftg4z5l4BbUcp2F2/Z71O/qz3C DSBTo/795MAu3gdOapUe6H8nm1JLVJfGtc2TfoLPCnW2RekmimsoQ0eFT+pnAEnGTBNvBHqVQ6v Uzpifuw0V4bjTQJUxVxmYpp1kNWbHDgw= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctC6Jkwy9HlwW5Jh/gejOittyeUQdZUd8ufKqfMCrPvtOpW3QUXa+cvGSc8s89 euy7YVvXBY058h1Sslz+FG/Emie4n332rb9zD4BtTWc8gUYd+c6qgzRziFkL4JbMbmmoHhk5gaQ Ey/nXpECnyZRYzfITge+3nmLlZJ6oGnw8U//enolYuJL3hjuOkYcWnAPk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH59/PPH6MP3ddzfal4qgmofqUsFZGJTamAYrbXouK7y8//K9/1PjInGEwrF/n86ABtNnp9tIUsDR5b4lK+UxM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6a2a:b0:ad8:9a3b:b274 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ae057c70972mr1500367766b.52.1750745923593; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 23:18:43 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250622184107.a3341dc042a3432b31ceac13@posteo.net> <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> In-Reply-To: <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> From: "Jack L." Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 23:18:06 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFuNGxpqcTZEiXTCGyUgyviUEwC0ft0APCvEX0J2sjVUVN2RYhzAMp41dRU Message-ID: Subject: Re: samba To: "Xavier B." Cc: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000de2a4206384b4ce6" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRFBz4nTYz3q25 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] --000000000000de2a4206384b4ce6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You need to update your ports tree https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ports/#ports-using On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 10:56=E2=80=AFPM Xavier B. = wrote: > Thanks but I do not have the directory /usr/ports/net/samba420: > > # cd /usr/ports/net/sa* > sacc/ sakisafecli/ samba412/ samba413/ samplicator/ savvycan= / > > Regards, > > > > > cd /usr/ports/net/samba420 && make config > > Enable the option of AVAHI that you need, then: > > make reinstall clean > > --000000000000de2a4206384b4ce6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You need to update your ports tree


On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 10:56=E2=80=AFPM Xavier B. = <somenxavier@posteo.net>= ; wrote:
Thanks = but I do not have the directory /usr/ports/net/samba420:

# cd /usr/ports/net/sa*
sacc/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 sakisafecli/ samba412/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 samba4= 13/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 samplicator/ savvycan/

Regards,

>
> cd /usr/ports/net/samba420 && make config
> Enable the option of AVAHI that you need, then:
> make reinstall clean

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On Tue, Jun 24,= 2025 at 8:55=E2=80=AFAM Xavier B. <somenxavier@posteo.net> wrote:
Thanks but I do not have the directory /usr/por= ts/net/samba420:

# cd /usr/ports/net/sa*
sacc/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 sakisafecli/ samba412/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 samba4= 13/=C2=A0 =C2=A0 samplicator/ savvycan/

How did you install sambo420 in the first=C2=A0place?
Did you us= e "pkg install" option?

=

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Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
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+254 7 3200 00= 04/+254 7 2274 3223
=C2=A0In= =C2=A0an Internet failure case, = the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS.
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--0000000000008e10f206384b4f54-- From nobody Tue Jun 24 09:43:44 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRKlR6YwSz5yYsY for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.65]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRKlR18Vcz3hTB for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF433240027 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:43:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=posteo.net; s=1984.ea087b; t=1750758224; bh=rN+T27F5TeTiwqHiYXLzUrlnrKWIH+CV5MSVSkVDSjY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=JJXaTvKrOs5Vk0knYzOkyoNACUYUM9ku4d8KMKDc/FRcA8gVkuAirRh4Rc/326PmF 9mVdn4TE3QoEk5e+pWhHO/FoanpvYZaBiSKdMC2GrxL9xbA+fddOP23gZIe10HwsxK zEvMePedXccE1GJjTl01teXGakrHVVqvl66B6+GXfst1QwnrBpjviOceabh5aBjxMT v1qfdcXG3+oxRFvyPz/XEB2LlW2/Y3PHwwYk2hm3Zfu5P4Syj5dlSUOqG5603T8nIV L3oQkCZZNypH8+8Um2TC0A9oysMUYHPHfgkSOsPK4Dcq2weUWtZ+noFcEzyNafE4l8 /bFa54vxJmm7OxCOT3A+5G1BAmRxKfRCxhfVkbGiTZ08jzmU1Fi/7mqXfsIyWn/F58 9X9cqCB+FIOX3D6IuZG37XxxNuNjxtdBHA1Qa6PLyDsXx5eVc0k/ILgj1BfRtdDY58 ObnEjHqWTr9+6GSCyNqqV/DV8tiT0fgCqyRaKDndIXhcPDO0WAL Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4bRKlN37wNz6tyg; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:43:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:43:44 +0000 From: "Xavier B." To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba Message-Id: <20250624114344.363d3792e5c252c953dd8fe9@posteo.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20250622184107.a3341dc042a3432b31ceac13@posteo.net> <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRKlR18Vcz3hTB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8495, ipnet:185.67.36.0/23, country:DE] I used "pkg install". All worked before 14.3 upgrade What can I do? Xavier On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:18:51 +0300 Odhiambo Washington ha escrit: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 8:55 AM Xavier B. wrote: > > > Thanks but I do not have the directory /usr/ports/net/samba420: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/net/sa* > > sacc/ sakisafecli/ samba412/ samba413/ samplicator/ savvycan/ > > > > How did you install sambo420 in the first place? > Did you use "pkg install" option? > If that be the case, then this can help you: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-install-and-configure-mdnsresponder.70713/ > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. > "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) > [How to ask smart questions: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] From nobody Tue Jun 24 09:49:12 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRKsk4yJJz5yZSv for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.65]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRKsk4BWgz3ktk for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F4BD240027 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:49:13 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=posteo.net; s=1984.ea087b; t=1750758553; bh=TfDWsxZ7d8WmyQLujYzwJEcahceiiywUBaA6B0slOOQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=lJNTV4rQq54bAoIJaQtZxoxSaq+FiSba9ZJHVt0Spa9UGzozRvyd2RueOy7spU4lX YUKkD0P9B7mhj6C+hCeVNuXzH8nO7cJaV/ef26VfBlzukDHK83WKdnj5jvaLxbsqlg tWoXxyckzop/z5xps06XeBsrDbDB0hLpf5XUWWP70zkN3htdv/chIiIvR/L1U/ruiL FPOJyhM72A7SCx080DoJMp0m7ieBLa8QVtMW9tWjjvc/AkHdrz8COJAXVif0tUEilD oGtRd173BGbfiUhH0SjbEEeUosAhUZ6eQwA/VcD71myfSu80BTD2m7pa4fzCVV2JEo EZZCsYOH684gapqPgbqk5+eOU9VrdkR0q2kN2sh0OiFZwvbm58bddD5v91mMnHWOgs FsFhVAnc40BTNqmG6uBDRo/sK+GayuDxgD6SB8/SQVm8TOi1637T8qKrrf+avF6X1x MxQGgYDUfDm4ZS/1x4SvVT38UBjpHFChgOIul/sNYgcEHRgCKAd Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4bRKsj0LWbz9rxY; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:49:12 +0000 From: "Xavier B." To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba Message-Id: <20250624114912.d384c5dee19fd8b3a539da2a@posteo.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20250622184107.a3341dc042a3432b31ceac13@posteo.net> <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRKsk4BWgz3ktk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8495, ipnet:185.67.36.0/23, country:DE] If I remove samba420 and I install samba419 all works Strange. On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:18:51 +0300 Odhiambo Washington ha escrit: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 8:55 AM Xavier B. wrote: > > > Thanks but I do not have the directory /usr/ports/net/samba420: > > > > # cd /usr/ports/net/sa* > > sacc/ sakisafecli/ samba412/ samba413/ samplicator/ savvycan/ > > > > How did you install sambo420 in the first place? > Did you use "pkg install" option? > If that be the case, then this can help you: > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-install-and-configure-mdnsresponder.70713/ > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 > In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. > "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) > [How to ask smart questions: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] From nobody Tue Jun 24 10:24:23 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRLg15gSWz5ybyL for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x32e.google.com (mail-ot1-x32e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRLg12kBVz3w1j for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ot1-x32e.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-735b2699d5dso3377027a34.0 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:25:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1750760699; x=1751365499; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Oq/AZck4W3ZO2cshyItmu5ddhFMaFJhHhUSwNjyc0f0=; b=IoirA64VrsQ9mxIKFa62KrqqVh94aUntcc0LZF6/VpLcKlNysdBq9MypDwmiTXU2Eh 1eaRp1FeRvH5P9P2E89aUUePOzdLPHxMVTWy9Ddcs+NSV8T6eum3vEnV0ENpF9eppcmd 51ExaiNOaEzg42qzDgjW/3UUdkv4GNOrlCHUyJcrd737CglcTBv69dVdlQ/n0wMGPiKw ACpVZSoR+yQJH9KyP6GmaTIYZw007Hp2xYS6j5Rq09EEomvIt8gzaYw9vTXIP6lJOgiQ plS6eNLhio/42NZnqxSrXOe8oIITN8Ga+R4YlkfMmlaVoBIqt/PLxawINsqKLMvgZcq0 kjDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1750760699; x=1751365499; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Oq/AZck4W3ZO2cshyItmu5ddhFMaFJhHhUSwNjyc0f0=; b=QvAw4S2hKtNVYz9htwP0VC8FrpiZAg5tLct6ZwtVydz5Vqu1NzpTScuJQSaOd4EZUU CjTe0OWWLkKATbOPqtJv/9dOobYxOM1c+g3keF7ZOgJe9kayT4rGnn+8tdWrPwVxty/U 6har+oAzMGN/CuduDQsUze+7fwKc4nTTFR3iHSDZ6b+aRr6O+Atam3iaKsqezDVCdQpF AhSHKQIxLEwjqEBDA7P/nhFRKjH1Hx02ezZsEuzYq4AKFdzj/3JchYnGKFZWsnZ0n/oH pQ456w4/TUwW3vIA0/pPYNaC/DX3apL5bNBuTVUKKOvBdrHSPEW1R5Z1qMWhY7YQP65q 6i2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzO5CmW/TUb/qBEsaLjhljJ/tvavt6i3DRQNdGUEqmKggq00kWH dxGcGSdUtqdAO0wkdxFFQWkyPlYqOksexC8mpnLv0q/3dO9wwE0Yu7nvIJHCKqVM4cytcoIGeUT UYKA0XEcwKZQly86ysnWq6+1U6iYiHy/0zrQwJ3yF8w== X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsGZPjzl4sE3fanwY2omZUwv8Law26zWKFdKnOVR6JszNSY6LHvqcVszchyk7I +VFX2ymkrjYgAK+BQDc9NmLI8ZSuH0KK2URGMwPMQCgNs1I47SeFND05WauJ+vdaSkBqwWuPnhj fK1dFGC1AHhCTYpJdOXRM8bsn3IZlzL9qXOoKq9Ngn7ym1fw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFSwQTmnnf3REyag5UIsHS3blGATh/NvTSQSBPaeLt4I6Aipbq5cKEN8upxKGtSa3bY0i7UA91XM5lFFFQEazw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:830e:b0:2e4:4617:f6e1 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-2eeda569baemr11128814fac.2.1750760699226; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:24:59 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250622184107.a3341dc042a3432b31ceac13@posteo.net> <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> <20250624114912.d384c5dee19fd8b3a539da2a@posteo.net> In-Reply-To: <20250624114912.d384c5dee19fd8b3a539da2a@posteo.net> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:24:23 +0300 X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFsu8JMU-OvlXebrNvNfjKUnYf_TSBhdlIcOm-UmdHONq2sI3PEhhKt4PQY Message-ID: Subject: Re: samba To: "Xavier B." Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000090700906384ebdd6" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRLg12kBVz3w1j X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --00000000000090700906384ebdd6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 12:49=E2=80=AFPM Xavier B. = wrote: > If I remove samba420 and I install samba419 all works > > Strange. > PS: It's good practice to post your reply below, not on top. That way the thread hierarchy is maintained. I installed samba420 on my FreeBSD 14.3 using the ports and it runs fine. So perhaps you need to update the avahi pkg as well? --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] --00000000000090700906384ebdd6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jun 24,= 2025 at 12:49=E2=80=AFPM Xavier B. <somenxavier@posteo.net> wrote:
If I remove samba420 and I install samba419 al= l works

Strange.

PS: It's good practice to = post your reply below, not on top. That way the thread hierarchy is maintai= ned.

I installed sa= mba420 on my FreeBSD 14.3 using the ports and it runs fine.
So pe= rhaps you need to update the avahi pkg as well?

--
Best regards,
Odhia= mbo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
=C2=A0In=C2=A0an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant:= DNS.
"Oh, the cruft.",=C2=A0egrep -v '^$|^.*#'=C2=A0=C2= =AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2=A0:-)
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[209.85.128.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-712c4a1625fsm20190217b3.27.2025.06.24.03.43.50 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-70e4b1acf41so40293057b3.3 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:43:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:700b:b0:70e:2ba2:659d with SMTP id 00721157ae682-712c64f92femr236854027b3.23.1750761829883; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 03:43:49 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:43:38 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFuC0Ohteu__klG35lQ_J8x0lMtUdU4alOh3cu8G2exhUGxUxyNxuuE3nZc Message-ID: Subject: Re: make buildkernel on 14.2 tries to build graphics/drm-510-kmod and fails To: "Edward Sanford Sutton, III" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRM4n49fkz44MV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 2:38=E2=80=AFAM Edward Sanford Sutton, III wrote: > On 6/23/25 17:31, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > Hello world :-) > > > > I am trying to build custom kernel to test a driver, kernel seems to > > build fine but then a graphics/drm-510-kmod build kicks in and fails. > > I do not use drm-510-kmod, it is not installed, why it is built here?? > > o_O > > Do you have PORTS_MODULES defined (/etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf)? You > can confirm its definition with the output of: > > `make -VPORTS_MODULES -C /usr/src/` Thanks Edward! Yes it seems to be defined.. but I have no idea where and wh= y? # make -VPORTS_MODULES -C /usr/src graphics/drm-510-kmod # cat /etc/make.conf DEVELOPER=3Dyes DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dssl=3Dlibressl MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3D24 #WITH_DEBUG_PORTS=3D comms/limesuite WRKDIRPREFIX=3D/usr/obj/usr/ports NO_KERNELCLEAN=3D1 I can override this only with make -VPORTS_MODULES -C /usr/src PORTS_MODULE= S=3D I do have drm-61-kmod installed as dependency of nvidia-drm-kmod / nvidia-drm-61-kmod: # pkg info -x drm drm-61-kmod-6.1.128.1402000_5 drm-kmod-20250428 drm_info-2.7.0 libdrm-2.4.123,1 nvidia-drm-61-kmod-570.153.02.1402000_2 nvidia-drm-kmod-570.153.02 Why drm-510-kmod is being built is a mystery :-P --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From nobody Tue Jun 24 21:44:24 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRdl71F1Tz60K2s for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from ns.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "discoveriesinwood.com", Issuer "E5" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRdl45YzXz3QZC for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 21:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.151.122] (breakaway.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.122]) by ns.dreamchaser.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 55OLiOxl009958 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:44:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:44:24 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: xcalc missing fonts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:44:25 -0600 (MDT) for IP:'192.168.151.122' DOMAIN:'breakaway.dreamchaser.org' HELO:'[192.168.151.122]' FROM:'freebsd@dreamchaser.org' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:44:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.88 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.981]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_TO_DOM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRdl45YzXz3QZC X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Recently upgraded 13.4 -> 13.5, deleted and reinstalled all ports. running xcalc, some of the buttons have the wrong symbols, e.g. a ',' is displayed for the division symbol. When running from an xterm, on startup I see: ~$ xcalc Warning: Cannot convert string "8x13" to type FontStruct Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-symbol-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct I have the following fonts pkgs installed: ~$ pkg info | grep freefont freefont-ttf-20120503_2 Free UCS Outline Fonts root@breakaway:/usr/ports/x11-fonts # pkg info | grep adobe font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Adobe 100dpi font font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Adobe 75dpi font font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.4_4 X.Org Adobe Utopia 100dpi font font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.4_4 X.Org Adobe Utopia 75dpi font font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.4_4 X.Org Adobe Utopia Type1 font root@breakaway:/usr/ports/x11-fonts # pkg info | grep font GentiumBasic-1102_1 Gentium Basic and Gentium Book Basic TrueType fonts crosextrafonts-caladea-20130214_4 Font created by Google for ChromeOS to replace MS Cambria crosextrafonts-carlito-20130920_4 Font created by Google for ChromeOS to replace MS Calibri encodings-1.1.0,1 X.Org Encoding fonts font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Adobe 100dpi font font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Adobe 75dpi font font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.4_4 X.Org Adobe Utopia 100dpi font font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.4_4 X.Org Adobe Utopia 75dpi font font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.4_4 X.Org Adobe Utopia Type1 font font-alias-1.0.4 X.Org Font aliases font-arabic-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Arabic fonts font-bh-100dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bigelow Holmes 100dpi font font-bh-75dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bigelow Holmes 75dpi font font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bigelow Holmes Lucida TypeWriter 100dpi font font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bigelow Holmes Lucida TypeWriter 75dpi font font-bh-ttf-1.0.3_5 X.Org Bigelow & Holmes TTF font font-bh-type1-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bigelow Holmes Type1 font font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bitstream Vera 100dpi font font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bitstream Vera 75dpi font font-bitstream-type1-1.0.3_4 X.Org Bitstream Vera Type1 font font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.3_4 X.Org Cronyx Cyrillic font font-cursor-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Cursor fonts font-daewoo-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Daewoo fonts font-dec-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Dec fonts font-ibm-type1-1.0.3_4 X.Org IBM Type1 font font-isas-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous ISAS fonts font-jis-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous JIS fonts font-micro-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Micro fonts font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Cyrillic font font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.4 X.Org miscellaneous Ethiopic font font-misc-meltho-1.0.3_5 X.Org miscellaneous Meltho font font-misc-misc-1.1.2_4 X.Org miscellaneous Misc fonts font-mutt-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Mutt fonts font-schumacher-misc-1.1.2_4 X.Org miscellaneous Schumacher fonts font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.4_4 X.Org Screen Cyrillic font font-sony-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Sony fonts font-sun-misc-1.0.3_4 X.Org miscellaneous Sun fonts font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.3_4 X.Org Winitzki Cyrillic font font-xfree86-type1-1.0.4_4 X.Org XFree86 Type1 font fontconfig-2.15.0_3,1 XML-based font configuration API for X Windows freefont-ttf-20120503_2 Free UCS Outline Fonts freetype2-2.13.3 Free and portable TrueType font rendering engine ftgl-2.4.0_2,1 OpenGL FreeType fonts rendering library gsfonts-8.11_8 Standard Fonts for Ghostscript libXfont-1.5.4_3,2 X font library libXfont2-2.0.6 X font library libXft-2.3.8 Client-sided font API for X applications liberation-fonts-ttf-2.1.5,2 Liberation fonts from Red Hat to replace MS TTF fonts libfontenc-1.1.8 The fontenc Library linuxlibertine-g-20120116_2 Linux Libertine G and Linux Biolinum G fonts mkfontscale-1.2.3 Creates an index of scalable font files for X py311-fonttools-4.56.0 Open source library for manipulating fonts, written in Python twemoji-color-font-ttf-15.1.0 Color emoji font using Twitter Unicode 10 urw-base35-fonts-20200910 URW core35 fonts in various formats urwfonts-1.0_8 Another font package for X woff2-1.0.2_5 Library and converter tools for the WOFF 2.0 web font format xlsfonts-1.0.8 Server font list displayer for X xorg-fonts-7.7_1 X.org fonts meta-port xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.7 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.7 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.7 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-7.7_1 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-7.7 X.Org Type1 fonts The only thing I found referencing something like this was this: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/issues/23002 /usr/local/etc/X11/fontpath.d and xorg.conf.d are both empty. It's my understanding all that's needed is xorg-fonts-100dpi or -75dpi and way back when I'm pretty sure that was the case. Hints? Thanks, Gary From nobody Wed Jun 25 00:13:20 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRj2w5ZVbz60SRk for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRj2t6vmqz4H1R for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=UUgXKbRA; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews02-sea.riseup.net (fews02-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.112]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRj2s1xwjz9t6y for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:13:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1750810405; bh=CbIbyA0q5Os3r0ePsMTiwwL0NJ3VjFoHah7C6zHsmR8=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=UUgXKbRARXpL83sDGieS5V+I/IGldDtJ2vZeaYbiVJVBPvCLMHqowZ3ZxL0V1ZA1p Z20cSecJZ+oLFKKP6BmmZrjo5cQUcb534QGexyAuL9FNG38rxST2wdf+LrbQCTurUk PXV4L7tivI8IAbZ1VyuI+VPBHqYFxJ+jz6nSDqV0= X-Riseup-User-ID: 7A3DC7AD42DF109349EF43D8AF5C1611E4A2DECC4D9E290B330501F10810817F Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews02-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4bRj2r47nBzFwwc for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: xcalc missing fonts From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 02:13:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> References: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.43 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.66)[0.664]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[198.252.153.6:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRj2t6vmqz4H1R X-Spamd-Bar: - On Tue, 2025-06-24 at 13:44 -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: > It's my understanding all that's needed is xorg-fonts-100dpi or -75dpi > and way back when I'm pretty sure that was the case. >=20 > Hints? Probably the same issue as I experienced on Arch Linux. I installed xorg-fonts-100dpi and -75dpi. After that I needed to run $ xset fp+ /path_to_fonts_100dpi/,/path_to_fonts_75dpi/ $ xset fp rehash https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42196 From nobody Wed Jun 25 04:25:11 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRpdR1q5Zz60gxq for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 04:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from ns.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "discoveriesinwood.com", Issuer "E5" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRpdQ3ZCGz3m3J for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 04:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [192.168.151.122] (breakaway.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.122]) by ns.dreamchaser.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 55P4PBEo010648; Tue, 24 Jun 2025 22:25:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <87c7b666-297b-415a-b019-a284d09ebb86@dreamchaser.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 20:25:11 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: xcalc missing fonts To: Ralf Mardorf , questions@freebsd.org References: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> Content-Language: en-US Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 24 Jun 2025 22:25:12 -0600 (MDT) for IP:'192.168.151.122' DOMAIN:'breakaway.dreamchaser.org' HELO:'[192.168.151.122]' FROM:'freebsd@dreamchaser.org' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 24 Jun 2025 22:25:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRpdQ3ZCGz3m3J X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US] On 6/24/25 16:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2025-06-24 at 13:44 -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: >> It's my understanding all that's needed is xorg-fonts-100dpi or -75dpi >> and way back when I'm pretty sure that was the case. >> >> Hints? > > Probably the same issue as I experienced on Arch Linux. > > I installed xorg-fonts-100dpi and -75dpi. After that I needed to run > > $ xset fp+ /path_to_fonts_100dpi/,/path_to_fonts_75dpi/ > $ xset fp rehash > > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42196 Thanks. Interesting: $ pkg info -l xorg-fonts-100dpi xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7: /usr/local/share/licenses/xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7/LICENSE /usr/local/share/licenses/xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7/NA /usr/local/share/licenses/xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7/catalog.mk That does not look promising; it's the same for all xorg-fonts* packages. Where is the actual font data? in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpi: # make fetch ===> License NA accepted by the user ===> xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Fetching all distfiles required by xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7 for building # make extract ===> License NA accepted by the user ===> xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Fetching all distfiles required by xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7 for building ===> Extracting for xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.7 # ls Makefile pkg-descr work # cd work # ls -al total 20 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jun 24 22:18 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jun 24 22:03 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 24 22:18 .build_done.xorg-fonts-100dpi._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 24 22:18 .configure_done.xorg-fonts-100dpi._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 24 22:03 .extract_done.xorg-fonts-100dpi._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 147 Jun 24 22:18 .license-catalog.mk -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 56 Jun 24 22:18 .license-report -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 24 22:18 .license_done.xorg-fonts-100dpi._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jun 24 22:18 .patch_done.xorg-fonts-100dpi._usr_local -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 40 Jun 24 22:18 NA Is that all correct? Or is my ports tree (which hasn't been used since upgrading to 13.5) trashed? (but ports should be irrelevant here because everything was installed with pkgs) I did a portsnap fetch ; portsnap update right after upgrading, then a pkg delete -a follwed by a bunch of pkg install(s) pkg install -f xorg-fonts-100dpi doesn't change anything. Thanks for any suggestions, Gary From nobody Wed Jun 25 05:45:27 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRrQ40DZ7z60lx8 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 05:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Received: from mout02.posteo.de (mout02.posteo.de [185.67.36.66]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRrQ32jHxz3JcV for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 05:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from somenxavier@posteo.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A59E240103 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 07:45:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=posteo.net; s=1984.ea087b; t=1750830329; bh=JVoXgX2SNW1AcoQSvQ96Wv4+WMbvkiwTucCVF9+e90o=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=EytLOkgRhJfXAFGApXzs2DEcv2LT/szotAJD0BdPTcJYALpnrevKnh0rRDVs2pxZZ JjrZ+3n1PzbvBHDzW/Tp90N67CE5xueG2fCCg6UQrcezFBCjrI9Xib9gcptB8lKnZV ECUx3IQ6+Qznok02Zv/ISCwu8HijQja3h4ELmHjjIQN0BDBi1vjyNxFBA5MRxB2Ozd ljRUGvjFVmHEJ3/ICG3uOiLy5QYdGyR6tX4qu+K9lv+D3C7re3JfoZdtlHkiMldU56 3koBOFQpOFiVObm6HHUW9z9BOsMu+kdcPJlwmHtLA8DNbzxRIVQlf5gYqb2j31LiWq 9eRnUC9VofoLGzfwNjuI5ZhqVkJIA4/of0TlS8lzxYn1m3uBwo1fXjFfSYEljIQ5dZ fwpsku71dXBU0vqQv9JuQvmYKuMfzGWgwSen3lOjUf8h+yYedn2d+6zUuj5D5XIHF1 h7fvuhKy8/y7Hs2VeZAXTuXI8zAObeIkPpPFLVfjtbvyoTwIGqP Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4bRrQ02t72z9rxL; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 07:45:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 05:45:27 +0000 From: "Xavier B." To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba Message-Id: <20250625074527.c44013caf3a199cb6c9c4c79@posteo.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20250622184107.a3341dc042a3432b31ceac13@posteo.net> <20250624075507.b2863b7ecdbea90bbeab2c4a@posteo.net> <20250624114912.d384c5dee19fd8b3a539da2a@posteo.net> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRrQ32jHxz3JcV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8495, ipnet:185.67.36.0/23, country:DE] On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:24:23 +0300 Odhiambo Washington ha escrit: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 12:49 PM Xavier B. wrote: > > > If I remove samba420 and I install samba419 all works > > > > Strange. > > > > PS: It's good practice to post your reply below, not on top. That way the > thread hierarchy is maintained. > > I installed samba420 on my FreeBSD 14.3 using the ports and it runs fine. > So perhaps you need to update the avahi pkg as well? > I did: # pkg delete py311-h11 # pkg delete libxml2 # pkg autoremove # pkg clean # pkg install samba419 With 4.19 I do not have avahi installed. Regards, Xavier PS; Mark as solved but perhaps samba20 has a bug there. 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That way > > the thread hierarchy is maintained. > > Is that the list consensus/rule? Just like emacs/vi, it is one of > those great divisive issues. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style > > I like bottom-posting as long as the person trims the original > message to just the essential, but I hate wading through several > pages of quoted stuff just to see a 1- or 2-line response... > > Julf > > I _prefer_ bottom-posting or the interleaved style. Top-posting is a no. --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] --0000000000008e93fe063860c7e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Jun 25,= 2025 at 9:07=E2=80=AFAM Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
On 24/06/2025 12:24, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> PS: It's good practice to post your reply below, not on top. That = way
> the thread hierarchy is maintained.

Is that the list consensus/rule? Just like emacs/vi, it is one of
those great divisive issues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

I like bottom-posting as long as the person trims the original
message to just the essential, but I hate wading through several
pages of quoted stuff just to see a 1- or 2-line response...

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Julf


I _prefer_ bottom-posting or the inter= leaved style. Top-posting is a no.

=

--
= Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254 7 3200 0004/+25= 4 7 2274 3223
=C2=A0In=C2=A0<= /span>an Internet failure case, the #1 = suspect is a constant: DNS.
"Oh, the cruft.",=C2=A0egrep -v '^$|^.*#'=C2=A0=C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2=A0:-)
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NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.15)[-0.145]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.03)[0.032]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tenebras.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1029:from]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tenebras-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRwJs2R5xz46ry X-Spamd-Bar: / On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:32=E2=80=AFAM Johan Helsingius w= rote: > > On 25/06/2025 09:55, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I _prefer_ bottom-posting or the interleaved style. Top-posting is a no= . > > Sure, I understand it is your personal preference. I am just wondering > if the list has a consensus or rule about it. I am persuaded by the argument I've seen since my early days on USENET that interlineal (bottom) responses are best. There are some standards from that time that are archaic =E2=80=93 ASCII in a Unicode worl= d =E2=80=93 keeping lines at 64 or 72 characters in length =E2=80=93 etc. I repeat th= e argument below. Why top-posting is problematic: Disrupts reading order: It forces readers to scroll past the reply to see the original message, which is the opposite of how we typically read text. Creates long, redundant posts: Top-posters often include the entire original message, leading to lengthy emails with unnecessary repetition, especially in threaded conversations. Hinders efficient reading: It makes it difficult to quickly grasp the context of the conversation, especially in longer threads. Can lead to missed points: When replying to a multi-part email, top-posting can make it easy to overlook or forget to address specific points in the original message. Why bottom-posting or inline replies are preferred: Maintains chronological order: Bottom-posting keeps the conversation in a logical top-to-bottom order, making it easy to follow the flow of discussion. Reduces redundancy: Inline replies allow you to quote only the relevant parts of the original message that you are responding to, keeping the email concise. Improves clarity: By directly addressing specific points within the original message, inline replies ensure that all parts of the discussion are properly addressed. More efficient for longer discussions: Inline replies and bottom-posting are more efficient for reading and understanding lengthy email threads. 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Top-posting is a no. >> >> Sure, I understand it is your personal preference. I am just wondering >> if the list has a consensus or rule about it. > > I am persuaded by the argument I've seen since my early days on USENET > that interlineal (bottom) responses are best. There are some > standards from that time that are archaic – ASCII in a Unicode world – > keeping lines at 64 or 72 characters in length – etc. I repeat the > argument below. > > Why top-posting is problematic: > > Disrupts reading order: It forces readers to scroll past the reply to > see the original message, which is the opposite of how we typically > read text. > Creates long, redundant posts: Top-posters often include the entire > original message, leading to lengthy emails with unnecessary > repetition, especially in threaded conversations. > Hinders efficient reading: It makes it difficult to quickly grasp the > context of the conversation, especially in longer threads. > Can lead to missed points: When replying to a multi-part email, > top-posting can make it easy to overlook or forget to address specific > points in the original message. > > Why bottom-posting or inline replies are preferred: > > Maintains chronological order: Bottom-posting keeps the conversation > in a logical top-to-bottom order, making it easy to follow the flow of > discussion. > Reduces redundancy: Inline replies allow you to quote only the > relevant parts of the original message that you are responding to, > keeping the email concise. > Improves clarity: By directly addressing specific points within the > original message, inline replies ensure that all parts of the > discussion are properly addressed. > More efficient for longer discussions: Inline replies and > bottom-posting are more efficient for reading and understanding > lengthy email threads. > There are pros and cons with all three ways. I prefer properly trimmed inline replies. 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"Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] --000000000000cbcbfc063862bd32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have this:
```
root@gw:/home/wash # df= -h
Filesystem =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Size =C2=A0 =C2=A0Used =C2=A0 Avail Capacit= y =C2=A0Mounted on
/dev/ada0p2 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.8T =C2=A0 =C2=A0552G =C2= =A0 =C2=A01.1T =C2=A0 =C2=A033% =C2=A0 =C2=A0/
devfs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00B =C2=A0 =C2=A01.0K =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0% =C2=A0 =C2=A0/dev
fdescfs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01.0K =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A00B =C2=A0 =C2=A01.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0% =C2=A0 =C2=A0/dev/fd
= procfs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00B =C2=A0 =C2= =A08.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0% =C2=A0 =C2=A0/proc
linprocfs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A08.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00B =C2=A0 =C2=A08.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0% =C2=A0 = =C2=A0/compat/linux/proc
linsysfs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8.0K =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A00B =C2=A0 =C2=A08.0K =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0% =C2=A0 =C2=A0/compat/linux/= sys
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What i= s the fastest way to wipe all data on /dev/ada1p2?


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--000000000000cbcbfc063862bd32-- From nobody Wed Jun 25 10:29:27 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bRyjw1jZMz5yrfl for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 10:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mm@dorfdsl.de) Received: from srv1.dorfdsl.de (srv1.dorfdsl.de [IPv6:2a01:170:118f:3::22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "srv1.dorfdsl.de", Issuer "E5" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bRyjt6bBnz3lsC for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 10:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mm@dorfdsl.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=dorfdsl.de header.s=default header.b=DBwsAPDy; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mm@dorfdsl.de designates 2a01:170:118f:3::22 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mm@dorfdsl.de; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=dorfdsl.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dorfdsl.de; s=default; t=1750847370; bh=TJnM9DRxPBJcB6TDFno4hzXvDUQmhYrRCH+ZBUDY+Wc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=DBwsAPDy3HONO/7QfJggJdXDoqIHTfcUGbgGdEGPVnseQ44oTUH+vKMQV5IXnuYTn 654VQvPGu57hLy5zfRVHiExWuJwogwdM1Fv8sk80BSwhhuNYIHuM/5DVjbJj89vK8+ v6zbXeErakAi7A7eOhGW9LBMlttRCIefLmvoZrg43lwYou7bvaz1YxZQchdrLNX+IQ u59M4/Ax59LbPSJ9stp6T0ICHXbztafl1cBot3L4Ky09MZrrwY8+CAA1YG5s6swMeX E93qcz/dNhwLrGgVjkT6kz3HgVhawRgjTfI3KiKWmK6spv79yBEakkBo12RGpVUB2r AHnGzXQLpoD+Q== Received: from localhost.localdomain ([IPv6:2a01:170:118f:1:71cc:5bcd:b302:7da]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPSA id 55PATT1G078803 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 12:29:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 12:29:27 +0200 From: Marco Moock To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wiping a disk partition Message-ID: <20250625122927.46067656@dorfdsl.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.1 (GTK 3.24.49; i686-pc-linux-gnu) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.22 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dorfdsl.de,none]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:170:118f:3::22]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dorfdsl.de:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8820, ipnet:2a01:170:1000::/36, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mm]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dorfdsl.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bRyjt6bBnz3lsC X-Spamd-Bar: / On 25.06.2025 13:16 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > What is the fastest way to wipe all data on /dev/ada1p2? Unmount it, then use dd to overwrite it with zeros. 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Quick and dirty is to use newfs(8) to create a new filesystem. That's not going to render any previous data on the partition completely unrecoverable, but you'ld probably need to hire a specialist recovery firm to do so. Also, as you continue using the drive, old data will be successively overwritten. You might need to use dd(1) to write a few MB of zeroes over the beginning of the partition if newfs engages an anti-foot-shooting mode. 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That > > way the thread hierarchy is maintained. > Is that the list consensus/rule? It's how we've done things for the last 30-odd years. 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First, ensure that you know how to recreate the partition and more importantly the filesystem exactly (if that matters), using something like: - gpart show ada1 - gpart show -l ada1 - dumpfs -m /dev/ada1p2 Then use the steps below: - umount /dev/ada1p2 - gpart delete -i 2 ada1 - gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ada1 (use -a, -s and other options as appropriate) - newfs /dev/ada1p2 (assuming the previous command returned something like "ada1p2 created", may not be the case if entries in your GPT are sparse; use same parameters as reported above if relevant). If using ZFS, you would just destroy and recreate the dataset. This wipes all data in the common sense of the word. In particular, it does not make any effort to protect against some malicious actor recovering some of the previously written bytes. Regards. -- Olivier Certner --nextPart4113046.p4y8TspHLy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Would it be this one?: = https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ISO-IMAGES/14.3/FreeBSD-14.3-RELEASE= -amd64-disc1.iso = Searching the web gives some results where FreeBSD seems to be a = preinstalled option in the process of choosing a VM image under Parallels. But this predefined path for FreeBSD doesn't seem no = longer to be supported by Parallels. -- Christoph --Apple-Mail=_FB686534-4458-4B7B-973B-5781A9BCC205 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I'm wondering what 14.3 FreeBSD image would be suited to run under = Parallels 18.3.3 macOS intel core i7 (BigSur).
Would it be = this one?:
https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ISO-IMAGES/14.3/FreeBSD-1= 4.3-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso

Searching the = web gives some results where FreeBSD seems to be a preinstalled option = in the process of choosing a VM image
under = Parallels. But this predefined path for FreeBSD doesn't seem no longer = to be supported by Parallels.

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Christoph
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Do you want to destroy the data (overwrite it) or do you simply want to wipe the partition (data still physically there though)? 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[209.85.128.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-712c4c1f62fsm24607747b3.121.2025.06.25.07.28.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-70e5d953c0bso20235037b3.1 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:6701:b0:70f:83ef:ddf7 with SMTP id 00721157ae682-71406cb55e0mr48485717b3.13.1750861713116; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 16:28:22 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AX0GCFsl2zHKNoOP_eN8b-FO4mGoTMHCDepNDvldf85qcQqVteXSAdj_BX1nORQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wiping a disk partition To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bS41g5w29z3Xy1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 12:18=E2=80=AFPM Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have this: > ``` > root@gw:/home/wash # df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ada0p2 1.8T 552G 1.1T 33% / > devfs 1.0K 0B 1.0K 0% /dev > fdescfs 1.0K 0B 1.0K 0% /dev/fd > procfs 8.0K 0B 8.0K 0% /proc > linprocfs 8.0K 0B 8.0K 0% /compat/linux/proc > linsysfs 8.0K 0B 8.0K 0% /compat/linux/sys > /dev/ada1p2 1.8T 856G 802G 52% /disk2 > ``` > > What is the fastest way to wipe all data on /dev/ada1p2? The fastest way would be to overwrite partition with zeros: dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada1p2 bs=3D1g status=3Dprogress In order to overwrite data safely so these are not easily recovered you can use /dev/random in several overwrite loops, then in the last iteration you can use /dev/zero to mark partition clean (or leave random data for someone to wonder). Note /dev/random is much slower than /dev/zero. You may also use badblocks utility in destructive-write test to overwrite with different patterns and check disk condition at the same time but this will be slowest solution :-) https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbadblocks Have fun :-) --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From nobody Wed Jun 25 17:28:47 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bS81m36P3z60Jct for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [66.165.241.226]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bS81l60Zlz3XLj for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomadlogic.org; s=04242021; t=1750872496; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=IvJ2EdIfqDW2YtYvHzl/FC9UXS+69UyctFx7dCKKl8Y=; b=RLN52R04swU2Sxmrlboja0mnopbcxhlANFuXzUAv2/lvywbHvgA78PPLONWcASddnkDZhU eVOQxjE6ezkgCaQxyHwSW1rMog+sZT56HDmeMyR96ycJkIEr7SFykKwG0dsfNjlpwq6KTU 5b2A9eYphX9/v+uKCRFcynWF07K8thw= Received: from [192.168.1.45] (47-154-20-141.fdr01.snmn.ca.ip.frontiernet.net [47.154.20.141]) by mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id d9cd1e44 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 10:28:47 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: FreeBSD under macOS (Parallels) To: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9731EC47-DB47-40A5-869D-019B677CD2BD@kukulies.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Pete Wright In-Reply-To: <9731EC47-DB47-40A5-869D-019B677CD2BD@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bS81l60Zlz3XLj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29802, ipnet:66.165.240.0/22, country:US] On 6/25/25 6:34 AM, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I'm wondering what 14.3 FreeBSD image would be suited to run under > Parallels 18.3.3 macOS intel core i7 (BigSur). > Would it be this one?: > https://download.freebsd.org/releases/ISO-IMAGES/14.3/FreeBSD-14.3- > RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso IMAGES/14.3/FreeBSD-14.3-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso> > > Searching the web gives some results where FreeBSD seems to be a > preinstalled option in the process of choosing a VM image > under Parallels. But this predefined path for FreeBSD doesn't seem no > longer to be supported by Parallels. I haven't used Parallels in quite a while, but this directory contains our prebuild images for VM's: https://download.freebsd.org/releases/VM-IMAGES/14.3-RELEASE/amd64/Latest/ You can choose either a raw image, qcow, vhd or vmdk file - I forget what Parallels supports. There are also traditional UFS as well as ZFS flavors as well. -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org From nobody Wed Jun 25 17:55:34 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bS8cY65gvz60KmG for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from ns.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "discoveriesinwood.com", Issuer "E5" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bS8cW3hQ4z3sBb for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.151.122] (breakaway.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.122]) by ns.dreamchaser.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 55PHtYcL014584; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:55:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 09:55:34 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: Gary Aitken Subject: Re: xcalc missing fonts Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org To: Ralf Mardorf , questions@freebsd.org References: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> <87c7b666-297b-415a-b019-a284d09ebb86@dreamchaser.org> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <87c7b666-297b-415a-b019-a284d09ebb86@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:55:35 -0600 (MDT) for IP:'192.168.151.122' DOMAIN:'breakaway.dreamchaser.org' HELO:'[192.168.151.122]' FROM:'freebsd@dreamchaser.org' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:55:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.21 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.984]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.67)[-0.674]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_TO_DOM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bS8cW3hQ4z3sBb X-Spamd-Bar: + On 6/24/25 20:25, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 6/24/25 16:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 2025-06-24 at 13:44 -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: >>> It's my understanding all that's needed is xorg-fonts-100dpi or -75dpi >>> and way back when I'm pretty sure that was the case. >>> >>> Hints? >> >> Probably the same issue as I experienced on Arch Linux. >> >> I installed xorg-fonts-100dpi and -75dpi. After that I needed to run >> >> $ xset fp+ /path_to_fonts_100dpi/,/path_to_fonts_75dpi/ >> $ xset fp rehash This doesn't change the behavior; still no divide symbol or square-root on the xcalc buttons: $ xset q | grep font catalogue:/usr/local/etc/X11/fontpath.d,built-ins,/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/share/fonts/freefont-ttf/,/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/ $ xset fp rehash $ xcalc Warning: Cannot convert string "8x13" to type FontStruct Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion Warning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-symbol-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct > Where is the actual font data? From the handbook, /usr/local/share/fonts/ Looking at the individual font directories, there is no fonts.dir in some of them. The server log shows: (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/"). Running mkfontdir in each of the subdirs in /usr/local/share/fonts solves the problem: # bash # cd /usr/local/share/fonts # for dir in * ; do cd $dir ; mkfontdir ; cd .. ; done $ xset fp rehash $ xcalc However, doing an "xset fp default" restores the original behavior, so I still have to set the font path explicitly despite the fonts.dir files now being present. Restarting the server solves the problem. Questions I have remaining: 1, Does anyone else see this same problem with xcalc not displaying the divide and square-root buttons correctly? i.e. missing fonts.dir files in some of /usr/local/share/fonts/* directories? 2. Of all the ports in x11-fonts, only cyr-rfx and uw-ttyp0 have a pkg-plist which contains an active reference to fonts.dir. In all the others, there is either no pkg-plist at all, or the fonts.dir line is commented out: $ grep fonts. freefonts/pkg-plist @comment %%FONTSDIR%%/fonts.dir @comment %%FONTSDIR%%/fonts.scale Are the fonts.dir files supposed to be auto-generated after pkg install? 3. Can anyone point me to a description of exactly what is supposed to be in /usr/local/etc/X11/fonts.d/ ? My searches are coming up useless. Thanks, Gary From nobody Wed Jun 25 18:15:11 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bS93L6SKZz60LRM for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 18:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from ns1.genyosha.net (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "float.home.genyosha.net", Issuer "float.home.genyosha.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bS93L28mnz45Sd for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 18:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (ops0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.219]) by ns1.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 55PIFHAU020198 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 55PIFCNX017266; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:15:12 -0700 Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 55PIFBvN017265; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:15:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:15:11 -0700 From: Steve Rikli To: Gary Aitken Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xcalc missing fonts Message-ID: References: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> <87c7b666-297b-415a-b019-a284d09ebb86@dreamchaser.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:15:17 -0700 (PDT) for IP:'50.39.243.219' DOMAIN:'ops0.genyosha.net' HELO:'dragon.home.genyosha.net' FROM:'sr@genyosha.net' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:15:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bS93L28mnz45Sd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20055, ipnet:50.39.128.0/17, country:US] On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 09:55:34AM -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 6/24/25 20:25, Gary Aitken wrote: > > On 6/24/25 16:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Tue, 2025-06-24 at 13:44 -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: > > > > It's my understanding all that's needed is xorg-fonts-100dpi or -75dpi > > > > and way back when I'm pretty sure that was the case. > > > > > > > > Hints? > > > > > > Probably the same issue as I experienced on Arch Linux. > > > > > > I installed xorg-fonts-100dpi and -75dpi. After that I needed to run > > > > > > $ xset fp+ /path_to_fonts_100dpi/,/path_to_fonts_75dpi/ > > > $ xset fp rehash > > This doesn't change the behavior; still no divide symbol or square-root on the > xcalc buttons: > > $ xset q | grep font > catalogue:/usr/local/etc/X11/fontpath.d,built-ins,/usr/local/share/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/local/share/fonts/freefont-ttf/,/usr/local/share/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/local/share/fonts/misc/ > $ xset fp rehash > $ xcalc > Warning: Cannot convert string "8x13" to type FontStruct > Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion > Warning: Cannot convert string "-adobe-symbol-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct > > > Where is the actual font data? > > From the handbook, /usr/local/share/fonts/ > > Looking at the individual font directories, there is no fonts.dir in some of them. Fwiw, my 14.3 system has these: $ pwd /usr/local/share/fonts $ l 100dpi/ OTF/ cyrillic/ encodings/ noto/ 75dpi/ TTF/ dejavu/ misc/ $ find . -name fonts.dir ./misc/fonts.dir ./dejavu/fonts.dir ./noto/fonts.dir ./TTF/fonts.dir ./OTF/fonts.dir ./100dpi/fonts.dir I've not manually created or otherwise manipulated anything therein. I expect some of those were created today when I installed xcalc (see below). > However, doing an "xset fp default" restores the original behavior, > so I still have to set the font path explicitly despite the fonts.dir files > now being present. > Restarting the server solves the problem. My 'xset q' shows a Font Path: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins > 1, Does anyone else see this same problem with xcalc not displaying > the divide and square-root buttons correctly? My xcalc divide and sqrt symbols look OK. For reference: $ xcalc --version xcalc 1.1.2 Fwiw this is from a pkg install I just did today; the pre-reqs it came with: New packages to be INSTALLED: font-adobe-100dpi: 1.0.3_4 [FreeBSD] font-alias: 1.0.4 [FreeBSD] font-misc-misc: 1.1.2_4 [FreeBSD] xcalc: 1.1.2_1 [FreeBSD] > 2. Of all the ports in x11-fonts, only cyr-rfx and uw-ttyp0 have a pkg-plist > which contains an active reference to fonts.dir. In all the others, there is > either no pkg-plist at all, or the fonts.dir line is commented out: > $ grep fonts. freefonts/pkg-plist > @comment %%FONTSDIR%%/fonts.dir > @comment %%FONTSDIR%%/fonts.scale > Are the fonts.dir files supposed to be auto-generated after pkg install? > > 3. Can anyone point me to a description of exactly what is supposed to be in > /usr/local/etc/X11/fonts.d/ ? My searches are coming up useless. Not a reference or documentation per se, but this 14.3-STABLE system has no /usr/local/etc/X11/fonts.d/ subdir at all. I don't know if any of this is helpful to you or not. Cheers, sr. From nobody Wed Jun 25 19:46:22 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSC4L5281z60RCZ for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 19:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from ns.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "discoveriesinwood.com", Issuer "E5" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSC4K6ymMz45lN for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 19:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [192.168.151.122] (breakaway.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.122]) by ns.dreamchaser.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTP id 55PJkMQ1014899; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:46:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Message-ID: <7013246a-8082-4f59-9409-b20eef51ca72@dreamchaser.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:46:22 -0800 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: xcalc missing fonts To: Steve Rikli Cc: questions@freebsd.org References: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> <87c7b666-297b-415a-b019-a284d09ebb86@dreamchaser.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Gary Aitken In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:46:22 -0600 (MDT) for IP:'192.168.151.122' DOMAIN:'breakaway.dreamchaser.org' HELO:'[192.168.151.122]' FROM:'freebsd@dreamchaser.org' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:46:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSC4K6ymMz45lN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US] On 6/25/25 10:15, Steve Rikli wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 09:55:34AM -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 6/24/25 20:25, Gary Aitken wrote: ...> Fwiw, my 14.3 system has these: ... > $ find . -name fonts.dir > ./misc/fonts.dir > ./dejavu/fonts.dir > ./noto/fonts.dir > ./TTF/fonts.dir > ./OTF/fonts.dir > ./100dpi/fonts.dir > > I've not manually created or otherwise manipulated anything therein. I expect > some of those were created today when I installed xcalc (see below). ... > My 'xset q' shows a Font Path: > /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins Do you know how that path got set; since it doesn't include everything in /usr/local/share/fonts ? > $ xcalc --version > xcalc 1.1.2 My version is the same: $ pkg info -d xcalc xcalc-1.1.2_1: xbitmaps-1.1.2 libX11-1.8.12,1 libXt-1.3.0,1 libXaw-1.0.16,2 font-misc-misc-1.1.2_4 font-alias-1.0.4 font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.3_4 libX11-1.8.12,1 (libX11.so.6) libXaw-1.0.16,2 (libXaw.so.7) libXt-1.3.0,1 (libXt.so.6) > Not a reference or documentation per se, but this 14.3-STABLE system has > no /usr/local/etc/X11/fonts.d/ subdir at all. Thanks Gary From nobody Wed Jun 25 20:26:04 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSCy65hz6z60Tgq for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Received: from util.redbarn.org (util.redbarn.org [24.104.150.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.redbarn.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSCy601tXz3gGS for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=redbarn.org header.s=util header.b=YUgcBt0W; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paul@redbarn.org designates 24.104.150.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paul@redbarn.org; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=redbarn.org Received: from family.redbarn.org (family.redbarn.org [24.104.150.213]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.redbarn.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS RSA CA G1" (not verified)) by util.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC91B160B99 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:26:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=redbarn.org; s=util; t=1750883164; bh=8w/DfyopSgWS49FiN1Cx2t3wu26BDACNY2cqRaJ/iEM=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=YUgcBt0WwY/zYc7+aWS0Rck940cTTJWNDcjj7OiRmN0kpDzuFjuDk//TZdDJxHgNO yQHNSbLJjBgZV7GYUQgwQTfIYByHIUMSEGraiiQ7ECOvPZonqS+LacaEiuveE6RJZ5 sJejvwCKZPGDfr1cTUNFvDE8HeEP8nXAsGUl1zBU= Received: from localhost.localnet (dhcp-188.access.rits.tisf.net [24.104.150.188]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by family.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD0179 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:26:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Vixie To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: two questions about su(1) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:26:04 +0000 Message-ID: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> Organization: FW List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.09 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[redbarn.org:dkim]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.971]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.72)[0.720]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[redbarn.org,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:24.104.150.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[redbarn.org:s=util]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[24.104.150.213:received]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[redbarn.org:+]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33651, ipnet:24.104.150.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[paul]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSCy601tXz3gGS X-Spamd-Bar: + first, why is the -c check not applied until after a password is collected? > =E2=9E=9C ~ su -c zsh > Password: > su: only root may use -c second, what exactly do we think this -c restriction is buying us? > =E2=9E=9C ~ su > Password: > root@util:/home/vixie # exec zsh > util# =2D-=20 Paul Vixie From nobody Wed Jun 25 20:42:46 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSDKW1qfbz60Tvg for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSDKV5Fd0z3s5L for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 39749 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2025 20:42:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=9b43685c5f48.k2506; t=1750884158; x=1751229758; bh=a0+4roms62IMdEhfWZT6TB8DJ63RoVBKVlq+8VceQJQ=; b=qo6L2P34q4FE2RQPER3YIENc5eGEuN7QD8+j2mpu7aWvCWeWFsPJpqqCEXORF+V16voCipnXoRXrW+AsnsY7B2g78F2zbexTn8TP1HvAoVNQsw+9O8c30K9biASztnmhz3xGLSvmxJJogZDHYzHUsgLKbRC2s9k+2nkr4fe8u7YjnXHHT5sBYHkYt0daARvfvdi17u2c3OyhjYiy3OkqvWMCTqNq5LpfhOv6ddvL7FI3gf3e/osvd6ubMZymKRPSWBRnzhp2yYXsGbtuYrgRNJk7x1fASt8ZUJqiVcJGpTjE7K3XKHpK7HT1UHi8z9OId60D141l3QJ+EEgQtx2fYQ== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 25 Jun 2025 20:42:47 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 11192CFF43F6; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 16:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: 25 Jun 2025 16:42:46 -0400 Message-Id: <20250625204247.11192CFF43F6@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: paul@redbarn.org Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) In-Reply-To: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> Organization: Taughannock Networks References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSDKV5Fd0z3s5L X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] It appears that Paul Vixie said: >first, why is the -c check not applied until after a password is collected? Beats me, it's a very old program >second, what exactly do we think this -c restriction is buying us? Keeping in mind that -c specfies a login class, not a command, different login classes can have different resource limits, so I expect that they didn't want to let random users turn into other random users with raised reource limits. Personally, I've never used any login class other than the default so there is a lot of hand waving here. R's, John From nobody Wed Jun 25 21:36:49 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSFWv097mz5yYwK for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 21:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from ns1.genyosha.net (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "float.home.genyosha.net", Issuer "float.home.genyosha.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSFWt1SLxz3Hpg for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 21:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (ops0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.219]) by ns1.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 55PLasMw021157 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 55PLanRO018272; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:36:49 -0700 Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 55PLanJE018271; Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:36:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:36:49 -0700 From: Steve Rikli To: Gary Aitken Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xcalc missing fonts Message-ID: References: <425a86a7-cda0-46a1-882b-b06fe29a4b11@dreamchaser.org> <87c7b666-297b-415a-b019-a284d09ebb86@dreamchaser.org> <7013246a-8082-4f59-9409-b20eef51ca72@dreamchaser.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7013246a-8082-4f59-9409-b20eef51ca72@dreamchaser.org> X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) for IP:'50.39.243.219' DOMAIN:'ops0.genyosha.net' HELO:'dragon.home.genyosha.net' FROM:'sr@genyosha.net' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Wed, 25 Jun 2025 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSFWt1SLxz3Hpg X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20055, ipnet:50.39.128.0/17, country:US] On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:46:22AM -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 6/25/25 10:15, Steve Rikli wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 09:55:34AM -0800, Gary Aitken wrote: > ... > > My 'xset q' shows a Font Path: > > /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins > > Do you know how that path got set; since it doesn't include everything in > /usr/local/share/fonts ? I don't; I'm guessing it's compiled into 'xset' or the dependency X libs. Fwiw I've done nothing myself to create that path, so I assume it's the default, wherever it comes from. That aside, I suspect the path reported by 'xset' isn't involved in 'xcalc' (et al?) finding fonts. I'm no expert, and IME X(11,Free,Org) config and pathing can be a twisty maze :-), but my guess is the determining factor in this case is fontconfig. See fonts-conf(5) as a starting point, and note that the prefix for files described therein is likely /usr/local/etc/ rather than /etc/. Also note most fontconfig comands start with "fc-", e.g. fc-list, fc-conflist etc. I have pkg fontconfig-2.15.0_3,1 (it's prereq for xcalc, xterm, etc.) and it apparently creates /usr/local/etc/fonts/fonts.conf . When I check that file for the configuration I find: /usr/local/share/fonts fonts ~/.fonts and /usr/local/share/fonts is indeed where the 100dpi X fonts went when I installed the xcalc-1.1.2_1 pkg. If you have the same setup, I'd suggest checking that the default dirs and config isn't being overridden somehow in places like /etc/X11/, /etc/fonts/, your .xinitrc (if you have one), etc. Fwiw I haven't manually configured any of that, merely installed things with pkg. 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Thu, 26 Jun 2025 00:53:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 00:53:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Vixie Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) Message-Id: <20250626005347.af00aaa0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lCWX3SJB+gdZKMSdl4tzW09jJ9nZoZIAWSOmPtIlJ+U1Lf73gwf TCQkY235q8niaBcdfiAOrManeQqObtpWF7OZZKpvnA9j4wb0gWnhLilmiQgL9u6KjYMyX0b id+gfWXhE1asJDaM8fnFoDcmHkj56kwARdqFBLinSwL2mFTukT334PaAheGChQ145M3tjtS Qv+fHOUlfi6NpmM/TobSw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:7qBJOQ3NETY=;NaEX0Nxw5YGVtkYUIiOkpqL5l2X gX5/PwsvEBZU2d83+5ZOsWVd5MsPqIHiMKqNnhhrq2NRe7XGxUamlji1ejxlm6KpAVVDI44+W 1BRAtdmApM1IwDhzAoDxe8Io1Q+/NpbzHx3vjuEBqNeO1ynrvbO4UyXyBRCJPZyyFJuYmNzJI nrkPc1PAkUh4n5hXCNoepMd+lH9zgKjNa9N9oj/YRCVZmXZBUwb0WEZonkFblNIF0cpHmruxX pXY75R9KQqTLgiIY1kwUOCTixHLBeOpcUNPX9LERkNxtz5Ns+OnP2ZWyu3rZNBz7ViKHg9B2t nEuTob36elTrMyJXnRP5XNmzrAHjcNazGTHxeWHq0D1RaMqA/W+zA5zCaYOkv4JrLWI7/XpKe /rZvo8NlMXP1xeuN9bAWpoiJfdXZp5GHmwzVRjNPqMb/Srf09gb3mplZJptvcT0BgngHhz/n4 EP34DDzm6Kw2438BTOwtCy+fzJ8+Je4/r3WsBfWcglwHpbOaziu2P/8lvWh6YdOzHxDvlHZvp rsQC5PGVK1EqdAyhhD1QsdzsvTYAYj5k131nc8QNpyksmkarXTmdgrYjIyw3jaYx0ARa6I3Zu 71ZrOwZIpwKt1+zy+McNrOjryDWVp0o+HRN8js+w3f7lm/MbasYWlGiGuwscW+Pe0fMWYGtlq KkkJ5VZqLDP3DHsWo5jq3r+8QGh4G3t5Ku/KQuC4aZBCS5vWmsGP92upxKkyfBHktA0Ur86fd dTfCDPgkuj86gAaG+I0qml0p9nAZgyGUgOhQ++t26dVF6RiZSyTmAy5nDvCXv26SZoDtZoyAD fB/HK9WLIGQ83mivPrB3Qz5gjgCwts+lc/usf71hIOvHup5VO6VYHAub83uaZPquP1ttrwZ4Z UMqapw4KjHpJFWfI89rc+5kCMR6CZQOXG2wXIAl7KgOZRfhFR8lsvu+hbTK5imcypTQeUCVas UkI7l87jRB5eUh/Zrc4yYZUIYLf1kYUkQhJV9AAdO6/17uYagKgrv+HLwVW7D4ItBIxbLVlbg wUUx5M593O/gVXDbZTK+cDqmSO8SVH9BZzp/r89sjl001VqRDBAEMyzQFKdqUNuGZe/RmeuIA VToNLYJ6XY7/cRL7PeoPkm3vtva0AJkubxWKVL+aiM0Q12scHP6K49HlSs0y34+UL4yiQpaNQ kCn+QOeTzQznNXyUF9ddf2I8CwnYQ4ue2lrh0UC3qpxbq+5issu1vFQm9QmitjjqBfOzOTH5i HWPqvtumF1YpvQgWSwcK39NdlgIN2U/L+pMRaOQiHw6Pu0tIUBPsoSRXCei2Ju/6GU03G3jVE 9LlAwqk9l9Rfjm5+elCxP/CKa5MWTscyzVrnnRmnnobalogGoRNacoioFQbsydmrmgkGo0TcW eFKXzaRzrPpmXz1nqV3jTtmdfU9mBwmwWYGfRYno4LrQY9JTZd/dJa8/auAs4bb57AyHrrO85 83D0e8uhf8e7TFRErXzRgOy04S1PphOW1zOVuiMuXCIlcDTHjbe5CjlHd5BdqL0Cj/7nAekpK HuhjEFzIA1hNOhtwL1TLImxmYGwinH4asxzmpJNsxTu7HfVEtjX7lq+UH38XOeHAyK3T54bD0 zqxLi8UixE= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSHDx6d1fz3JfY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE] On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:26:04 +0000, Paul Vixie wrote: > first, why is the -c check not applied until after a password is collect= ed? >=20 > > =E2=9E=9C ~ su -c zsh > > Password: > > su: only root may use -c The reason probably lies within the "business logic" of su: 1. check if user can su at all 2. if yes: request password 3. apply any further options when invoking session and check their respective restrictions 4. start shell That part, invoking the new session (shell), can include things like requesting a different *login class*. See "man su" for details, EXAMPLES section. Also see "man 5 login.conf" regarding login classes. > second, what exactly do we think this -c restriction is buying us? A change of the login class _might_ include changes to environmental variables (and that, in turn, can have effect on many things, from $PAGER to $EDITOR or any maliciously crafted $LD_PRELOADs, coming from a user-side "infected" ~/.login_conf), and maybe that is not actually desired for a non-root user, because... well, when you "su root", your're _totally_ expected to know what you're doing: you're abandoning all restrictions and safeguards, because with absolute power comes the ability to do something stupid and shoot your foot, if you really want that. ;-) =2D-=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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If /dev/ada1 is an drive that supports the SCSI command "secure erase", this is the correct way to wipe *everything* on the drive -- contents such as slice/partition table, slices/partitions, file systems, etc.. If the drive is an SSD, it also erases invisible contents -- dirty blocks being held in reserve (over-provisioning), etc.. Afterwards, you will need to re-create slice/ partition tables, slices/ partitions, filesystems, etc.. Secure erase is also the fastest way to wipe an SSD, as the SSD controller has direct hardware access to the storage cells; the OS is not involved and no data is transferred over the HBA-drive bus. See camcontrol(8) -> Primary command functions -> security See also camcontrol(8) -> EXAMPLES But first, check the current security status of the drive. Here is an SSD in my SOHO file server: 2025-06-25 16:22:32 toor@f5 ~ # camcontrol security ada1 pass5: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device pass5: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) Security Option Value supported yes enabled no drive locked no security config frozen yes count expired no security level high enhanced erase supported yes erase time 4 min enhanced erase time 2 min master password rev fffe Note that "security config frozen" is "yes". This will block any attempt to secure erase the SSD. My work-around is to use a computer with a hot-swap bay. I boot FreeBSD and insert the SSD into the hot-swap bay. "security config frozen" should then be "no". I can then issue the secure erase command (untested): # camcontrol security ada1 -U user -s MyPass -e MyPass I believe the secure erase also resets the user and master passwords (untested). 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Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) Content-Language: en-US To: Paul Vixie , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> From: list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com In-Reply-To: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSMzM2k0bz3vYR X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:2607:f740:c::/48, country:US] On 2025-06-25 13:26, Paul Vixie wrote: > first, why is the -c check not applied until after a password is collected? > >> ➜ ~ su -c zsh >> Password: >> su: only root may use -c > > second, what exactly do we think this -c restriction is buying us? It restricts class-hopping to those who can already gain unrestricted access to the system. Without that, a user could use su to get around limits set in /etc/login.conf. >> ➜ ~ su >> Password: >> root@util:/home/vixie # exec zsh >> util# > Try: # su root -c zsh su uses the login username to separate args to su from args to be passed to the shell it will exec From nobody Thu Jun 26 02:40:55 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSNGn15Q7z5ytqm for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Received: from util.redbarn.org (util.redbarn.org [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cd::222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.redbarn.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSNGm4w6tz46DL for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from family.redbarn.org (family.redbarn.org [24.104.150.213]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.redbarn.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS RSA CA G1" (not verified)) by util.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21503160B99; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:40:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=redbarn.org; s=util; t=1750905656; bh=Xo8BbL5vHtbNkF0/qUYXl6z3rtpSX4HI7EyUJTG0kZw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=Tgv1WgrXx5gbGJV+fuKh6FJ+V5XH5T85lINBRDemavel6dwN1ONrT21optIDC/AKw T612yzkuze6SN+UnhNuYi8bC8N2tUO1FPv7N8gqJUc9334mYr13E73D672ZxcahfMF yT0+/z9Gh3o5rT3PDFzhbGRV8Ikm0zXMMomUi6i4= Received: from localhost.localnet (dhcp-188.access.rits.tisf.net [24.104.150.188]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by family.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7DE89; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:40:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Vixie To: FreeBSD Mailing List , list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:40:55 +0000 Message-ID: <2852001.rzyxZ31qjY@localhost> Organization: FW In-Reply-To: <85bac60f-82df-075a-4e3c-d113301aa53f@bluerosetech.com> References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> <85bac60f-82df-075a-4e3c-d113301aa53f@bluerosetech.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSNGm4w6tz46DL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33651, ipnet:2001:559:8000::/48, country:US] On Thursday, June 26, 2025 2:27:35 AM UTC list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com wrote: > > Try: > # su root -c zsh > > su uses the login username to separate args to su from args to be passed > to the shell it will exec ty! -- Paul Vixie From nobody Thu Jun 26 04:02:23 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSQ5l25KTz600Cg for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 04:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from heuristicsystems.com.au (hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au [203.41.22.115]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2560 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au", Issuer "Heuristic Systems Type 4 Host CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSQ5h084qz483K for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 04:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=heuristicsystems.com.au header.s=hsa header.b=WHzWRmfk; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au designates 203.41.22.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au; dmarc=none Received: from [10.0.5.4] (bigears.hs [10.0.5.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by heuristicsystems.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id 55Q42NCT050815 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:02:29 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=heuristicsystems.com.au; s=hsa; t=1750910549; x=1751515350; bh=8UiWMx14ukNI1+m9KkPXJZgJGObKMM+zS+Tlv7BkFzM=; h=Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; b=WHzWRmfkejZ3AYEEv6WHJuW7lm8YARNJEVr52HyhDGkJks2oQ45LXb6UMZAu4xAgj dppgcxGFqGRiqQ704k4ohzZJtXj+PiJwidRq03TBgHTU/4B1vn/r3k4VJqwQp6DChk dQGgqTwm7CtIIUuUxKPN9jdtxseDVssloXarB5leX1qrP80I6hOXo X-Authentication-Warning: b3.hs: Host bigears.hs [10.0.5.4] claimed to be [10.0.5.4] Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:02:23 +1000 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) To: questions@freebsd.org References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> <85bac60f-82df-075a-4e3c-d113301aa53f@bluerosetech.com> Content-Language: en-GB From: Dewayne Geraghty In-Reply-To: <85bac60f-82df-075a-4e3c-d113301aa53f@bluerosetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.64 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:dkim]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.993]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.21)[0.213]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[203.41.22.115:from]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[heuristicsystems.com.au:s=hsa]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.16)[0.157]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSQ5h084qz483K X-Spamd-Bar: - Paul, Just expanding on bluerosetech's answer Q 1. The user needs to authenticate before su looks-up the class record for the user in login.conf.db. Are you using a class zsh? :) Q 2. For example su -c Bobs_class Alice -c "$Process $Args" is very useful when testing (or running) Processes that you don't wont to run as root and would like to monitor process behaviour with different class attributes. Using classes via login.conf helps (me) to restrict process behaviour. Its particularly useful when using jails, as the restrictions that you apply to a class are applied to the user logging into a jail - I typically use classes to change MAC labels, process priority, cpu and memory limits and open files. For example jexec -U Alice $Jail $Process will use the class that Alice has been assigned (within the jail). An example of a modified record in my login.conf audit:\ :openfiles=16:\ :priority=-6:\ :label=partition/3:\ :tc=itsp: su with classes is very useful mechanism. Cheers. From nobody Thu Jun 26 05:39:36 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSSJ04b08z60591 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Received: from heuristicsystems.com.au (hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au [203.41.22.115]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2560 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "hermes.heuristicsystems.com.au", Issuer "Heuristic Systems Type 4 Host CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSSHw6tW3z4B1L for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 05:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=heuristicsystems.com.au header.s=hsa header.b=VVPiRu5D; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au designates 203.41.22.115 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au; dmarc=none Received: from [10.0.5.4] (bigears.hs [10.0.5.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by heuristicsystems.com.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPA id 55Q5dbQp017565 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:39:37 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from dewayne@heuristicsystems.com.au) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=heuristicsystems.com.au; s=hsa; t=1750916377; x=1751521178; bh=juh+6/eiYOEJcFTviWdijbrFJjAeKUeWHtgdk0ftD6E=; h=Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; b=VVPiRu5Di8ikdANXf0fG7llJ8hcJrjqq1evFfYsxxlk/je+tvPmDgF6wFZyydNBBa TCJ42+MuSVrAS5oq7RwSC6+1ildVmzMb2c2lcj0q20ZgY7itS7r3VbxbqYRTxc9KM6 HCuYbrmkmuf9HfXnf/Vx9/2PAv4qhc3PEKauZB83KNRC9917/INnN X-Authentication-Warning: b3.hs: Host bigears.hs [10.0.5.4] claimed to be [10.0.5.4] Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:39:36 +1000 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Wiping a disk partition To: questions@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-GB From: Dewayne Geraghty In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.21 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.922]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.85)[0.853]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[heuristicsystems.com.au:s=hsa]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[203.41.22.115:from]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1221, ipnet:203.40.0.0/13, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[heuristicsystems.com.au:+]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSSHw6tW3z4B1L X-Spamd-Bar: -- Hi Washington, MAGNETIC Media I wasn't familiar with David's approach so I visited the "Australian Defence Signals Directorate's" ISM Manual "The Advanced Technology Attachment (ATA) secure erase command was built into the firmware of post-2001 non-volatile magnetic hard drives and is able to access sectors that have been added to the growth defects table. (ie bad sectors)" which is good news. Thanks David for the explanation. FLASH Media Also the ISM states for: "For non-volatile flash memory media, a technique known as wear levelling ensures that writes are distributed evenly across each memory block. This feature necessitates non-volatile flash memory media being overwritten with a random pattern twice as this helps to ensure that all memory blocks are overwritten". So dd is a good solution as mentioned by others. There's a plethora of standard and methods (NIST SP 800-88 Guidelines for Media Sanitization, p32-35 is useful), but this is sufficient. PS I reference the ASD ISM because its widely required in my location (Australia) and follows NIST800-53r pretty well. 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FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::332:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSVtd1Cyrz4FMl X-Spamd-Bar: / --0000000000009058db063874a7b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 3:05=E2=80=AFAM David Christensen wrote: > On 6/25/25 03:16, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have this: > > ``` > > root@gw:/home/wash # df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ada0p2 1.8T 552G 1.1T 33% / > > devfs 1.0K 0B 1.0K 0% /dev > > fdescfs 1.0K 0B 1.0K 0% /dev/fd > > procfs 8.0K 0B 8.0K 0% /proc > > linprocfs 8.0K 0B 8.0K 0% /compat/linux/proc > > linsysfs 8.0K 0B 8.0K 0% /compat/linux/sys > > /dev/ada1p2 1.8T 856G 802G 52% /disk2 > > ``` > > > > What is the fastest way to wipe all data on /dev/ada1p2? > > > If /dev/ada1 is an drive that supports the SCSI command "secure erase", > this is the correct way to wipe *everything* on the drive -- contents > such as slice/partition table, slices/partitions, file systems, etc.. > If the drive is an SSD, it also erases invisible contents -- dirty > blocks being held in reserve (over-provisioning), etc.. Afterwards, you > will need to re-create slice/ partition tables, slices/ partitions, > filesystems, etc.. > > > Secure erase is also the fastest way to wipe an SSD, as the SSD > controller has direct hardware access to the storage cells; the OS is > not involved and no data is transferred over the HBA-drive bus. > > > See camcontrol(8) -> Primary command functions -> security > > > See also camcontrol(8) -> EXAMPLES > > > But first, check the current security status of the drive. Here is an > SSD in my SOHO file server: > > 2025-06-25 16:22:32 toor@f5 ~ > # camcontrol security ada1 > pass5: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device > pass5: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) > > Security Option Value > supported yes > enabled no > drive locked no > security config frozen yes > count expired no > security level high > enhanced erase supported yes > erase time 4 min > enhanced erase time 2 min > master password rev fffe > > > Note that "security config frozen" is "yes". This will block any > attempt to secure erase the SSD. My work-around is to use a computer > with a hot-swap bay. I boot FreeBSD and insert the SSD into the > hot-swap bay. "security config frozen" should then be "no". I can then > issue the secure erase command (untested): > > # camcontrol security ada1 -U user -s MyPass -e MyPass > > > I believe the secure erase also resets the user and master passwords > (untested). > So I looked at mine: ``` root@gw:/ # camcontrol security ada1 pass1: ACS-4 ATA SATA 3.x device pass1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) Security Option Value supported yes enabled no drive locked no security config frozen yes count expired no security level high enhanced erase supported yes erase time 4 min enhanced erase time 8 min master password rev fffe ``` However, I actually do not need "secure erase". I only wanted to know the fastest way of emptying the partition. --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' =C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] --0000000000009058db063874a7b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Jun 26,= 2025 at 3:05=E2=80=AFAM David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
On 6/25/25 03:16, Odhiambo Washin= gton wrote:
> I have this:
> ```
> root@gw:/home/wash # df -h
> Filesystem=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Size=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Used=C2=A0 =C2=A0Avail= Capacity=C2=A0 Mounted on
> /dev/ada0p2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.8T=C2=A0 =C2=A0 552G=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.1T=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 33%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /
> devfs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 1.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /dev
> fdescfs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 1.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /dev/fd
> procfs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A08.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 8.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /proc
> linprocfs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B=C2=A0 =C2=A0= 8.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /compat/linux/proc
> linsysfs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A08.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0B=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 8.0K=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /compat/linux/sys
> /dev/ada1p2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.8T=C2=A0 =C2=A0 856G=C2=A0 =C2=A0 802G=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 52%=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /disk2
> ```
>
> What is the fastest way to wipe all data on /dev/ada1p2?


If /dev/ada1 is an drive that supports the SCSI command "secure erase&= quot;,
this is the correct way to wipe *everything* on the drive -- contents
such as slice/partition table, slices/partitions, file systems, etc..
If the drive is an SSD, it also erases invisible contents -- dirty
blocks being held in reserve (over-provisioning), etc..=C2=A0 Afterwards, y= ou
will need to re-create slice/ partition tables, slices/ partitions,
filesystems, etc..


Secure erase is also the fastest way to wipe an SSD, as the SSD
controller has direct hardware access to the storage cells; the OS is
not involved and no data is transferred over the HBA-drive bus.


See camcontrol(8) -> Primary command functions -> security


See also camcontrol(8) -> EXAMPLES


But first, check the current security status of the drive.=C2=A0 Here is an=
SSD in my SOHO file server:

2025-06-25 16:22:32 toor@f5 ~
# camcontrol security ada1
pass5: <INTEL SSDSC2BW180A3L LE1i> ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device
pass5: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes)

Security Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Value
supported=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0yes<= br> enabled=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0no
drive locked=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 no
security config frozen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 yes
count expired=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no
security level=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 high
enhanced erase supported=C2=A0 yes
erase time=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 4 min
enhanced erase time=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 min
master password rev=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fffe


Note that "security config frozen" is "yes".=C2=A0 This= will block any
attempt to secure erase the SSD.=C2=A0 My work-around is to use a computer =
with a hot-swap bay.=C2=A0 I boot FreeBSD and insert the SSD into the
hot-swap bay.=C2=A0 "security config frozen" should then be "= ;no".=C2=A0 I can then
issue the secure erase command (untested):

# camcontrol security ada1 -U user -s MyPass -e MyPass


I believe the secure erase also resets the user and master passwords
(untested).

<= div>So I looked at mine:

```
root@gw:/ # camcon= trol security ada1
pass1: <Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB SVT02B6Q> ACS-4= ATA SATA 3.x device
pass1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO = 512bytes)

Security Option =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Valuesupported =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 yes
= enabled =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 nodrive locked =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no
securi= ty config frozen =C2=A0 =C2=A0yes
count expired =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 no
security level =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0high
enhanced erase supported =C2=A0yes
erase time =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A04 min
enhanced erase time = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 min
master password rev =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 fffe=
```

However, I actually do not need "secu= re erase". I only wanted to know the fastest way of emptying the parti= tion.


--
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,= KE
+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
=C2=A0In=C2=A0an Inte= rnet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS.
"Oh, the cruft.",=C2=A0egrep -v '^= $|^.*#'=C2=A0=C2=AF\_(=E3=83=84)_/=C2=AF=C2=A0:-)
[How to ask smart questions:=C2=A0http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.h= tml]
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You don't know who the target user is until after you've completed the PAM conversation, because PAM can translate user names. >> =E2=9E=9C ~ su -c zsh This means =E2=80=9Cswitch credentials to the root user but with the login = class set to zsh instead of the root user's normal login class, then run the root user's shell=E2=80=9D. I suspect you actually meant =E2=80=9Cswitch c= redentials to the root user, then run zsh=E2=80=9D, which is written `su root -c zsh` (he= re the `-c zsh` part is not interpreted by su, but added to the shell's command line). 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>> >> # camcontrol security ada1 -U user -s MyPass -e MyPass > > So I looked at mine: > > ``` > root@gw:/ # camcontrol security ada1 > pass1: ACS-4 ATA SATA 3.x device > pass1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) > > Security Option Value > supported yes > enabled no > drive locked no > security config frozen yes > count expired no > security level high > enhanced erase supported yes > erase time 4 min > enhanced erase time 8 min > master password rev fffe > ``` > > However, I actually do not need "secure erase". I only wanted to know the > fastest way of emptying the partition. Another approach could be rm(1) followed by a manual TRIM of the filesystem. This should remove the files and directories, and erase the blocks behind them, on the /disk2 filesystem. Beware of using the confusingly named trim(8) command (!): https://freebsd-hackers.freebsd.narkive.com/o3g3PuaA/how-to-use-trim-command fsck_ufs(8) appears to be the right tool for a manual TRIM. So (untested): # rm -rf /disk2/* /disk2/.?* # fsck_ufs -E /disk2 I ran `fsck_ufs -E /` on my SOHO file server, but could not tell if any TRIM commands were executed (?). Adding the debug option `-d` did not help. A third approach could be to enable TRIM on the filesystem in fstab(5), reboot, and then run rm(1). I would expect rm(1) and disk write performance to be reduced: # vi /etc/fstab /dev/ada1p2 /disk2 ufs rw 1 2 # shutdown -r now # rm -rf /disk2/* /disk2/.?* David From nobody Thu Jun 26 17:56:08 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bSmZr3bR4z5ybJd for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bSmZr2gDBz3gcB for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 53741 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2025 17:56:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=d1e9685d89b9.k2506; t=1750960559; x=1751306159; bh=IJHFHcDVtNOLtCTwS7Gp2VYP4FX4ePeKxkHZ4fpyr+M=; b=VWfd1BMjPTobZbdbMSr83PiN7oQBdVMVZUJHlfXiDeGSevBizSnWoFTTOIIAthA7s5jwp2xqUlWViPBTF5ApzS3PsYk1ynkXLBPqivGQJWWnmMtUF8jzyXpWQQ2qTKy1WhC6PqzAPh9dk1tdd3GhYZMnTQihbLxDSS3sR+LaJdR4eJitki+bOiplMV57nSSRZfdzMJLhkvCqwon4gB5T9EcrthUjFHRNzDIbteQ0AEczXgSWHtqwFaWh4iZwOCo8pTCSJNwn/jQL2GZlChWrYkcuL2CgtQZ1iKjAOJBiS56nWsMXM2rkwnUKjGvhz9l+JMMS+ROrTxGG0DguCOVJig== Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 26 Jun 2025 17:56:08 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 85F71D01A2AD; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: 26 Jun 2025 13:56:08 -0400 Message-Id: <20250626175608.85F71D01A2AD@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: des@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) In-Reply-To: <8634bmfp8s.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Organization: Taughannock Networks References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> <8634bmfp8s.fsf@ltc.des.dev> X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSmZr2gDBz3gcB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] It appears that Dag-Erling Smørgrav said: >root user's shell”. I suspect you actually meant “switch credentials to >the root user, then run zsh”, which is written `su root -c zsh` (here >the `-c zsh` part is not interpreted by su, but added to the shell's >command line). To pile on here, don't most people now use sudo for this kind of thing? R's, John From nobody Thu Jun 26 23:49:07 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTP id 4bSwQ93nD0z5yxbg for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Received: from util.redbarn.org (util.redbarn.org [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cd::222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.redbarn.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS RSA CA G1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPS id 4bSwQ75gz0z3fcN for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=redbarn.org header.s=util header.b=Z30gTyFd; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paul@redbarn.org designates 2001:559:8000:cd::222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paul@redbarn.org; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=redbarn.org Received: from family.redbarn.org (family.redbarn.org [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cd::5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.redbarn.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS RSA CA G1" (not verified)) by util.redbarn.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPS id 08BB7160B99 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:49:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=redbarn.org; s=util; t=1750981752; bh=O+iRd64UqFDh79Zb5yaE/YVefVOhPN643LvYYtTtNdE=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject; b=Z30gTyFd7P/ZI8qbcAN4mAXWCqSziF3lMiNYMfjYsq800wPaMrA1wJQDQBZELlsjd xTOPzHjwfPXJwDFIS2398EFsf0ZizPHg5106hXLt+NrnqhfdDVxeE1gGdGSLfnNHlR Wh1qCDXEeolB0mLaX+M8kKCX4W8X+leOLl+59YIk= Received: from dummy.faircode.eu (unknown [IPv6:2607:fb90:37af:9656:ac39:9f97:67d3:2243]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by family.redbarn.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPSA id 6DED89 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Vixie To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20250626175608.85F71D01A2AD@ary.qy> References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> <8634bmfp8s.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <20250626175608.85F71D01A2AD@ary.qy> Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3_211003592.1750981748079" X-Correlation-ID: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.56 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[redbarn.org:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.947]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.887]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.723]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[redbarn.org,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[redbarn.org:s=util]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:559:8000::/48]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33651, ipnet:2001:559:8000::/48, country:US]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[paul]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[redbarn.org:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bSwQ75gz0z3fcN X-Spamd-Bar: ----- ------=_Part_3_211003592.1750981748079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't love sudo but if it some day appears in the base system I'll switch to it. 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------=_Part_3_211003592.1750981748079-- From nobody Fri Jun 27 16:07:08 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bTL6l6LVZz5yy3K for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 16:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bTL6k4xKKz43wM for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 16:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk designates 84.45.41.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host81-129-121-116.range81-129.btcentralplus.com [81.129.121.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 55RG7Jn2049210 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:07:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------n6UknNwz5YSmCFd2fudR0hAO" Message-ID: <41cc959a-dc3f-4877-b01e-ad5106b48a94@fjl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:07:08 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: two questions about su(1) Content-Language: en-GB To: questions@freebsd.org References: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> From: Frank Leonhardt In-Reply-To: <2810770.4sosBPzcNG@localhost> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.08 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.920]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:84.45.41.196]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25577, ipnet:84.45.0.0/17, country:GB]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fjl.co.uk]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bTL6k4xKKz43wM X-Spamd-Bar: + This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------n6UknNwz5YSmCFd2fudR0hAO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 25/06/2025 21:26, Paul Vixie wrote: > first, why is the -c check not applied until after a password is collected? > >> ➜ ~ su -c zsh >> Password: >> su: only root may use -c > second, what exactly do we think this -c restriction is buying us? > >> ➜ ~ su >> Password: >> root@util:/home/vixie # exec zsh >> util# An observation, as others have answered: SU is wrongly assumed to mean "Super User" by Linux types, instead of Switch User or Substitute User. From here, confusion as to its real purpose starts. Linux and Apple Unix (whatever it's called this month) favour sudo to allow non-root users to run things, which they believe is a better equivalent to su when in fact they're for different purposes. su MAY be used to switch to the root user, or also any other user. I don't want to get into which mechanism is better, other than to say it's obviously not sudo[1]. But if you think "Switch User", su makes a lot more sense. [1] sudo has uses for auditing what multiple administrators do, although you can avoid the complexity and get better control using suid/sgid and wrappers. --------------n6UknNwz5YSmCFd2fudR0hAO Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 25/06/2025 21:26, Paul Vixie wrote:
first, why is the -c check not applied until after a password is collected?


➜  ~ su -c zsh
Password:
su: only root may use -c

second, what exactly do we think this -c restriction is buying us?


➜  ~ su
Password:
root@util:/home/vixie # exec zsh
util#

An observation, as others have answered:

SU is wrongly assumed to mean "Super User" by Linux types, instead of Switch User or Substitute User. From here, confusion as to its real purpose starts. Linux and Apple Unix (whatever it's called this month) favour sudo to allow non-root users to run things, which they believe is a better equivalent to su when in fact they're for different purposes. su MAY be used to switch to the root user, or also any other user. I don't want to get into which mechanism is better, other than to say it's obviously not sudo[1].

But if you think "Switch User", su makes a lot more sense.

[1] sudo has uses for auditing what multiple administrators do, although you can avoid the complexity and get better control using suid/sgid and wrappers.

--------------n6UknNwz5YSmCFd2fudR0hAO-- From nobody Fri Jun 27 22:48:21 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bTW1X6wZjz60Msm for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 22:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Received: from beesty.loosely.org (beesty.loosely.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bTW1V2h04z49SC for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 22:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org designates 2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org; dmarc=none Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=beesty ident=itz) by beesty with esmtp (Exim 4.98.1-5-133ee3edc) (envelope-from ) id 1uVHrp-000000008B7-1fL2 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 15:48:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 15:48:21 -0700 From: fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: base vulnerabilities Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.30 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.33)[0.330]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.07)[0.069]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:63949, ipnet:2600:3c01::/32, country:SG]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[aceecat.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bTW1V2h04z49SC X-Spamd-Bar: + I'm trying to keep track of unfixed known security bugs in all of my systems, and I'm having a hellish time doing that. 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When he tries to install packages, pkg seems to want to install the linux-compat-rl9 package with many of the packages that he is trying to install. This leads to a few questions: How do you find which installed packages require the linux compatibility package? Is there a way to find this for packages in general? Has FreeBSD made any changes to packages to increase the use of linux compat? If finding the packages that use/require linux compat isn't easy, how many use it it and what are the common packages that use it? Thank you, Walter -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis --0000000000006319380638960da3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

A=C2=A0friend=C2=A0just = had something different happen to his new FreeBSD box.=C2=A0
When= he tries to install packages, pkg seems to want to install the linux-compa= t-rl9 package with many of=C2=A0the=C2=A0packages that he is trying to inst= all.=C2=A0
This leads to a few questions:
How do you fi= nd which installed packages require the linux compatibility package?
<= div>Is there a way to find this for packages in general?
Has Free= BSD made any changes to packages to increase the use of linux compat?
=

If finding the packages that use/require linux compat i= sn't easy, how many use it it and what are the common packages that use= it?


Thank you,

Walter

-- =
The greatest dangers to libe= rty lurk in insidious encroachment by men=C2=A0of zeal, well-meaning but wi= thout understanding. =C2=A0 -- Justice Louis D.=C2=A0Brandeis
<= /div> --0000000000006319380638960da3-- From nobody Sat Jun 28 01:45:34 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bTZy453m0z60Xjl for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from ns1.genyosha.net (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "float.home.genyosha.net", Issuer "float.home.genyosha.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bTZy41tZMz3FyP for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2025 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (ops0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.219]) by ns1.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 55S1jekB036916 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 55S1jZ1G003989; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:45:35 -0700 Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 55S1jYuQ003988; Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:45:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:45:34 -0700 From: Steve Rikli To: Walter Parker Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux subsystem requirement Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:45:40 -0700 (PDT) for IP:'50.39.243.219' DOMAIN:'ops0.genyosha.net' HELO:'dragon.home.genyosha.net' FROM:'sr@genyosha.net' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bTZy41tZMz3FyP X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20055, ipnet:50.39.128.0/17, country:US] If I understand the question, I think you want something like: pkg search -Q required-by [pkg name] You can check pkg-search(8) for other filters and options and such. FYI I don't see a package called "linux-compat-rl9" in the repo at the moment, at least not with 'pkg search' or Freshports or a quick search through /usr/ports/ src -- you may want to check that name. 'pkg search' and related commands are quite useful, and Freshports et al are good tools for searching FreeBSD pkg things in general. Cheers, sr. On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 04:29:29PM -0700, Walter Parker wrote: > > A friend just had something different happen to his new FreeBSD box. > When he tries to install packages, pkg seems to want to install the > linux-compat-rl9 package with many of the packages that he is trying to > install. > This leads to a few questions: > How do you find which installed packages require the linux compatibility > package? > Is there a way to find this for packages in general? > Has FreeBSD made any changes to packages to increase the use of linux > compat? > > If finding the packages that use/require linux compat isn't easy, how many > use it it and what are the common packages that use it? > > Thank you, > Walter > -- > The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of > zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 26/06/2025 01:40, hlyg wrote: > … i don't know why it keeps showing msg below both before and after > installation: > > Root mount waiting for: CAM Check the hardware, not only the disks. cam(4) --------------Rb0xh5vReOj2Rx0spb1Z0koe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 26/06/2025 01:40, hlyg <hlyg2023@outlook.com> wrote:


> … i don't know why it keeps showing msg below both before and after 
> installation:
> 
> Root mount waiting for: CAM


Check the hardware, not only the disks. 

cam(4) <https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cam&sektion=4&manpath=freebsd-release>


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On 28/06/2025 02:45, Steve Rikli wrote: > … I don't see a package called "linux-compat-rl9" Yep, not many ports have 'compat' in the name: – and none of those includes the phrase 'linux'. I wondered whether it's the name of a file that's installed by a package. 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FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector10001:i=1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.87)[0.869]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.854]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[hotmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f403::/49]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hotmail.com:s=selector1]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[hotmail.com:dkim]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[hotmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hotmail.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bTqPq1tqhz3Ghp X-Spamd-Bar: + On 6/27/25 16:29, Walter Parker wrote: > Hi, > > A friend just had something different happen to his new FreeBSD box. > When he tries to install packages, pkg seems to want to install the > linux-compat-rl9 package with many of the packages that he is trying to > install. > This leads to a few questions: > How do you find which installed packages require the linux compatibility > package? Linux compatibility comes from base; maybe something about pkgbase can help sort it out but I am not familiar enough with that. If you otherwise mean to ask what depended on linux-base_rl9 instead of linux compatibility in general, try `pkg required-depends linux_base-rl9`. You can find some other things you can do with pkg but aren't given official commands with `pkg alias -l` and what command is really used with `pkg alias required-depends` and similar. To filter the required-depends list down to what you installed and help ignore dependencies, I'd try something like write the output of `pkg query -e '%#r == 0' '%n'` (like required-depends but without version #s) to a file, then append `pkg prime-list` to the file, and finally pass the file through `unique -d`. > Is there a way to find this for packages in general? My previous answer can be used in a more general sense, but some other approaches: ports-mgmt/pkg_tree and ports-mgmt/porttree will likely help. The ports framework also has *-depedns-list targets that may help. You can also review build logs at https://pkg-status.freebsd.org ; just make sure you look at the right 'builds' category (check others if it doesn't have what you are after or not loading properly), find the 'jail' for the OS version + hardware you are interested in, and then open the date+time link in the build column. From there, open the log link on the right. This will have the complete build log to create the package. You do not have full build logs of each dependency in that log but you will see the log of what dependencies were installed both directly and indirectly. It has a ascii art tree-like view provided by the ports pretty print depends list target. Building the port yourself will show that too but I think if it is not built in a clean environment then preinstalled items will cause the tree to not display. Custom built ports may offer some dependencies as optional. Some Linux things install more than is necessary but fixing that requires fixing the port (main or dependency port), splitting the dependencies into separate pieces, or deleting the pkg with -f (causes pkg to see dependency issues, expect to have to repeat after updates). > Has FreeBSD made any changes to packages to increase the use of linux > compat? The use of Linux WiFi and video drivers comes to mind. Not sure if more or less ports have added additional dependencies against Linux binaries or not. There has been a trend to merge more and more of the -rl9 dependencies into one single package so installing will bring in more bloat as I understand it, but it will also look 'cleaner' for total package count involved. > If finding the packages that use/require linux compat isn't easy, how > many use it it and what are the common packages that use it? It would be easier to answer how the dependency gets pulled in by knowing what you and your friend try to install than trying to type up a list of everything that uses the linux compatibility layer. Linux compatibility is used with some wifi and video drivers as some of them are just the linux driver + linux kpi but I don't know if that triggers a need for any linux-* packages. NVIDIA being a native FreeBSD video driver has optional additional linux support. Not every port that is a Linux binary has Linux in its name so there isn't an easy way that I know of to sort it out without more thought. > Thank you, > > Walter > > -- > The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of > zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.   -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis From nobody Sat Jun 28 18:44:54 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bV1Z75wcLz60KrX for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Received: from beesty.loosely.org (beesty.loosely.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bV1Z60NC7z42BC for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org designates 2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org; dmarc=none Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=beesty ident=itz) by beesty with esmtp (Exim 4.98.1-5-133ee3edc) (envelope-from ) id 1uVaXl-000000001kJ-3OBj for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:44:54 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:44:54 -0700 From: fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: base and ports vulnerabilities Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <9a8fd6fc-36d2-45cf-88aa-9d55a35cf82a@gmail.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9a8fd6fc-36d2-45cf-88aa-9d55a35cf82a@gmail.com> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.85 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.95)[0.954]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:63949, ipnet:2600:3c01::/32, country:SG]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[aceecat.org]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bV1Z60NC7z42BC X-Spamd-Bar: ++ On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 05:41:30AM +0100, Graham Perrin wrote: > is for the base > system, distinct from the ports collection. > From : > for documenting security issues in a software package collection > such as the FreeBSD Ports Collection. 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Thanks in advance for your replies.

Bob Melson

 
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Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX
--
A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as
it's compulsory.  M. Stanton Evans
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Having read the documentation on git, I'm left wondering if a ppd file is even necessary.  I still don't want to end up with another (expensive) paperweight or finding myself unable to take advantage of all the device's features. Again, many thanks in advance for your replies. Bob Melson On 6/28/25 20:06, Bob Melson wrote: > Anybody out there know if there's a CUPS ppd file available for the > Epson XP-7100 printer/copier/scanner?  I have a good deal being > offered but don't want to accept if I can't access the full capability > of the device or have it as just another paperweight. > > Thanks in advance for your replies. > > Bob Melson > > -- > Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX > -- > A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as > it's compulsory. M. Stanton Evans -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX -- A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as it's compulsory. M. Stanton Evans --------------TM8rYljrHSF97KE9fiDFpZsf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit  Re: my email below ...  Having read the documentation on git, I'm left wondering if a ppd file is even necessary.  I still don't want to end up with another (expensive) paperweight or finding myself unable to take advantage of all the device's features.

Again, many thanks in advance for your replies.

Bob Melson

On 6/28/25 20:06, Bob Melson wrote:
Anybody out there know if there's a CUPS ppd file available for the Epson XP-7100 printer/copier/scanner?  I have a good deal being offered but don't want to accept if I can't access the full capability of the device or have it as just another paperweight.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Bob Melson

 
-- 
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX
--
A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as
it's compulsory.  M. Stanton Evans


-- 
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande Microsolutions | El Paso, TX
--
A modern liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as
it's compulsory.  M. Stanton Evans

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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 28/06/2025 19:44, fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org wrote: > … I am confused, because > > https://www.vuxml.org/freebsd/ > > says right on top: > > Security issues that affect the FreeBSD operating system or > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > applications in the FreeBSD Ports Collection > > etc. is a security advisory that mentions CVE IDs but not VuXML. is the VuXML entry for SA-24:09.libnv. ---- Via : tools: import a conversion tool to and from VuXML by khorben · Pull Request #237 · ossf/osv-schema Also: FreeBSD Ports and Packages Security Project | FreeBSD Foundation --------------DWryaf1vO2o0200JsjhqLgjX Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 28/06/2025 19:44, fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org wrote:
… I am confused, because

https://www.vuxml.org/freebsd/

says right on top:

Security issues that affect the FreeBSD operating system or
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
applications in the FreeBSD Ports Collection

etc.


<https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-24:09.libnv.asc> is a security advisory that mentions CVE IDs but not VuXML. 

<https://vuxml.freebsd.org/freebsd/8d1f9adf-6b4f-11ef-9a62-002590c1f29c.html> is the VuXML entry for SA-24:09.libnv. 

----

Via <https://www.freebsd.org/status/report-2024-10-2024-12/#_security_engineering_at_the_freebsd_foundation>: 

<https://github.com/ossf/osv-schema/pull/237>
tools: import a conversion tool to and from VuXML by khorben · Pull Request #237 · ossf/osv-schema

Also: 

<https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/freebsd-ports-and-packages-security-project/>
FreeBSD Ports and Packages Security Project | FreeBSD Foundation

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Taking these numbers into account, I guess I'd be much more impressed with FreeBSD. Maybe stop this thread here? -- Ian From nobody Sun Jun 29 16:43:58 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bVZr43Kffz60QtL for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bVZr32ZVLz3W4p for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b="PS/ectzn"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews02-sea.riseup.net (fews02-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.112]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bVZr153dDzDqNB for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:44:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1751215441; bh=aL9Rl0QSYTFkS+1ED+wkhCqKpyNkhjoXuhqGek7zkts=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=PS/ectznZnmT5Gtr3/nRLolvFjFEI72zal8ZkBdF3RSth/f94KJFcMfKrTCPS/6NM Y349W+QzB+uu1H3aJF3/BfCkgDgu+KiKG1btV2aUmjMkdYtKjqJSKYOS7sLdfA2iN0 oFu5+fZ9PQvvfNkZPPsi6hNWAxGfmp2a5xu6ty/4= X-Riseup-User-ID: F6921ECAD926A76B3A4BE290540A3B601C8F926E136EE151F005C853991DDD0A Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews02-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4bVZr10Bf5zFtgC for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <587304863b5ccf18babe83660baf44da863c7156.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: Root mount waiting for: CAM From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 18:43:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.33 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.957]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.89)[0.892]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx1.riseup.net]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.06)[-0.063]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bVZr32ZVLz3W4p X-Spamd-Bar: -- On Sun, 2025-06-29 at 11:56 +0800, hlyg wrote: > my general impression is linux has less problems and support more=20 > hardware than freebsd Hardware vendors don't jump through hoops for either FreeBSD or Linux drivers. In addition to quantity, quality also plays a role, and as far as quality is concerned, luck also plays a role, i.e. whether a highly motivated programmer owns a certain hardware and needs the driver for it for FreeBSD and/or Linux herself/himself.