From nobody Mon Oct 13 13:42:11 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cldnK5SZHz6CXwP for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R12" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cldnJ6MmSz3TFt for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202510 header.b=IPIW64Xl; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.18.1/8.17.2) with ESMTPSA id 59DDgBTS006892 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:42:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfence.it; s=202510; t=1760362931; bh=eYbkA4ukqNoGTY+IH1rcXTfbV4xtdSbHBpIUqTUYmFk=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:References:In-Reply-To; b=IPIW64Xl4B7kDzPUyfHiHLpzdutHFPnK2BhykDVGxN96ADLprvzcHLRjGzMhaZYpn yACPLceMNxK4Xdd7g7qg51EwSWAl6E5BirORC1DEop9Wn5XOe/3hdcOYok6G4HvhAq hIKIYT0pQnHJraNiPnmFEJ2RwDLnuoStSbnVhufY= X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: <81c906a6-1b27-4780-9979-57e31cf3a11c@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:42:11 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Cannot find out what uses space in ZFS dataset Content-Language: en-US From: Andrea Venturoli To: questions@freebsd.org References: <8edc1a9d-bad8-4d35-8e90-b750eec84e0a@netfence.it> <09543B55-0259-4CCD-B56B-49FAACFB9663@vanderzwan.org> <804e8cad-e197-4ce0-b8cf-7ee326a53a94@netfence.it> <7C87A153-C197-486B-B67E-81542D9BBDA6@vanderzwan.org> <344daf02-f1e2-4be3-9c65-834d9582197f@netfence.it> <5841211A-B05C-40FF-953E-87B7A377B7AD@vanderzwan.org> <7F88E7F0-6B24-4E5B-AEBE-BF67D623FAEF@vanderzwan.org> <4c460392-04d3-4d28-bf52-753a84ac188f@netfence.it> <31F76B72-CE2C-47B4-AA5C-A4BDD3C9FB03@vanderzwan.org> <6376c8ce-a83d-46ac-9d52-514f2e034f08@netfence.it> <4149a7bf-7617-43c2-9742-ba62c507aff9@netfence.it> <00c2122d-1dca-4966-b5af-eb356e27b176@netfence.it> <8970d469-8e20-466d-945a-e26ea7564012@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <8970d469-8e20-466d-945a-e26ea7564012@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202510]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cldnJ6MmSz3TFt On 9/25/25 19:13, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 9/25/25 18:18, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > >> Could you post the output of this again, now you've deleted the >> snapshots? In the end, I decided to open a bug report: >https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=290205 bye & Thanks to all av. From nobody Tue Oct 14 07:03:40 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cm4vH5Zrsz6BtbD for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 07:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from mail.rail.eu.org (mail.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2a01:4f9:2b:29c:1000::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cm4vG1SGxz3bWF for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 07:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rail.eu.org header.s=m2024 header.b=QteJj7Ug; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rail.eu.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of erwan@rail.eu.org designates 2a01:4f9:2b:29c:1000::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=erwan@rail.eu.org Received: from rail.eu.org (mail.rail.eu.org [IPv6:2a01:4f9:2b:29c:1000::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: erwan) by mail.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 56BE4CD86 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 07:03:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=rail.eu.org; s=m2024; t=1760425421; bh=21t/yRvmTgj4v2v3aprf1NLvVC3iOCjDYlvIA6TDCZc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Content-Type:From:Content-Type; b=QteJj7UgA2TWqQN5gZaHK/X4NsFmn7zx6ER2NpsDGu+qoMPwpcmOXPpPfR9zNUOTG HcOHWsszFp52ndx/oYqDGXKz/DZVAzvZPmWZclxkP5wdF6uZIsL2Ksv1cKI5sUDWGp mv4JyLqBxKqe7nK7LCEwB9yR+M23CKMRkpjSQXtY2geQG3hMKOSXHs1Jy8nkGB0jl6 vyXSly9o//3yFGSMrmXRlt5XvmXjbrZmLELGokcxhw9zwTWwd3DBpVO43AKgy4Um9J RfNOIjmJ+MxTUtWeIg0ES4W2pVQL1VwnRRj4dVbK1EhwL2/62EwrSQ7zchb4rxDZiC MklsfZpOWrnYA== Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:03:40 +0200 From: Erwan David To: FreeBSD Subject: etcupdate usage Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rail.eu.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rail.eu.org:s=m2024]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f9::/32, country:DE]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rail.eu.org:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cm4vG1SGxz3bWF Hello, I do not understand how to use etcupdate. I am lost in the different options. s there somewhere a tutorial on its usage ? PS: on a machine that juste went from 14.2 to 14.3, etcuodate diff shows diff, but etcupdate says Failed to build new tree. Is it because src is not on the machine ? (not enough disk) I soon will upgrade another machine (with /usr/src this one), and I'd prefer to be sure to be able to use etcupdate on it (especially if I need to to a extract or build before upgrade) -- Erwan David From nobody Tue Oct 14 10:01:31 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cm8rM5wYJz6C8dX for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cryintothebluesky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x429.google.com (mail-wr1-x429.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::429]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cm8rM1S0Mz3vKH for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cryintothebluesky@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-4257aafab98so4336018f8f.3 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1760436093; x=1761040893; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=2TMkZxvXdnfxa5NzaDK4b/uXsk5fkBQOHtoTxeTiSWk=; b=KL1SJjNSyM4h2LsDs5F1Lu/cxX8hF1FblG1+ltMV/yktDINqSm7G6VenDXecmeeKpo ZoCHgzdrgD60HeIlOPu0CJerspy3dPqi/ZFtOZrK6QyHp1CEkXEsfrGIvPiXj5SwL0St ijUrPDNN+PhZFlp9ehbbgz1lXEyW2r3oxBgmYi3V4n5tQdHuONgp/50DoIf9z3xN1Kyf Wst//+zgZ19ubEgLDE8ZUzKAniNF4HPonaHZXZm/5lajinZVb2ERWSkJZhQHQEMy44jh c+TMdiV5T8EUa3tEKY6Jo18mBsMPPXJF5KApdG+b/5G5dNGaK6e4ceASWJ/5IVj7tv/e aTFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1760436093; x=1761040893; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=2TMkZxvXdnfxa5NzaDK4b/uXsk5fkBQOHtoTxeTiSWk=; b=bSphy+P1y0OxTsx36J03CAHZv3mO07lF4Mhq1aIHXj9/dpZZ2FvlhiIEpIGdlehC+p YCsr6wTjwHQV7zH+Fp3B+sJfZCkREug9L/n0ALAq0QRCcEDkRrreqGo7pEAey57tor7U cMAKk8uTfsxNhnpnkDqAk5DPfsLE8v8JH1WJRIIqFLr9/FHeTUL4uqv9OxhjO2Z0ZaRe x7OZ6dMU74BfWpbwEe9Z0MzJYmw4OqgaRwuyDAJmmMLzgTCCvxI4b/Dsyp15RvprF/Mk 7Np18RS5k5W9fQ9orxhiSxVIxEOPTPZ7I4+kwZgmUBVLjvZMlECYch/dJtM+m85vxDul FPVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwpOVmxohwgVvTJHPbj7bI95veh4C0QaOmQBIwF7Wz4RTprr2T8 QvOatrPErX8QTxFCxe9niF0DQwgg1lNy5sVMHR/QgarxXV6ZMTAW1aMw X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnct1p6JlBvGSaE9ZXrbr4q797FvvcaMXKRy916n6YskBPquSRTgtCBtVipkpNDW 4pZ1UQWCtdr5vTkHEiMEnmB3+iXI8SZ5VmjNaMAvU3ie/ZAV231Mf1Go8rgplg/0IQFF+zcRdOI f6p9oCqfY9yMjCJgFRkASH0etOn7/Fl2Db/CVp3VYHJo37NwtZlE0zEY94nwgaWepw8UDhD5+Aj Sn1wfJoz97nHTgymO0IMKkpRS+vsbHcdu8HvxyJXb1rFsN5UDF0/x4bHBWvCeIiiP3e0F6ByC5S afY1OF/srG4wAa3Oaf0j5Bq18rX9VkJyo70Eg2GIYnnCu8YZgeRD+zlPMlQTI3RFEAqZXI2x1UR I/XwhZx9eZtqCVnbYagGmoNphBSGFOq2UpX9U/7hjfA7jL1buOJt6ZHJ46YMbRhlP1Uy9Wcr1TL yMEJDgNw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFr6EAHJz4aZpZeaxVaVrmTeSBAwydG+QgmFokRNg7hCkJH9XJHZdKmhiSgkX2YZleFGIKaOQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:26c2:b0:3d0:b3cc:c1ff with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-4266e7d917bmr17215825f8f.39.1760436092645; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 03:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z600.home.lan (214.85.199.146.dyn.plus.net. [146.199.85.214]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-426ce583424sm22517838f8f.21.2025.10.14.03.01.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Oct 2025 03:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 11:01:31 +0100 From: Sad Clouds To: Erwan David Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: etcupdate usage Message-Id: <20251014110131.5d3b680e141cd42c37092d0c@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.8.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cm8rM1S0Mz3vKH On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:03:40 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > Hello, > > I do not understand how to use etcupdate. I am lost in the different options. > s there somewhere a tutorial on its usage ? Not sure about tutorials, but you may find this post useful: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2024-September/005666.html I think NetBSD etcupdate is much better. 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[...] Is it because src is > not on the machine ? If you didn't upgrade from source, you don't need etcupdate. > I soon will upgrade another machine (with /usr/src this one), and I'd > prefer to be sure to be able to use etcupdate on it > (especially if I need to to a extract or build before upgrade) If and only if upgrading your machine from source, run `etcupdate -B` after `make installworld`. This will update every file that isn't conflicted and tell you of any that are, in which case you will have to run `etcupdate resolve` to resolve the conflicts. Once in a great while (the last time it happened was in 2020), `make installworld` will fail due to a missing user or group. In that case, you need to run `etcupdate -p` (and possibly `etcupdate resolve -p`) to update the user and group databases before retrying `make installworld`. When doing so, you will still have to run `etcupdate -B` afterwards to update everything else. 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[...] Is it because src is > > not on the machine ? > > If you didn't upgrade from source, you don't need etcupdate. 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[...] Is it because src is > > not on the machine ? > > If you didn't upgrade from source, you don't need etcupdate. Thanks, I upgrade through freebsd-update thus no worry to have. -- Erwan David From nobody Tue Oct 14 15:27:35 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cmJ4k2lBQz6CcFK for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 15:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from ns1.genyosha.net (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cerebus.home.genyosha.net", Issuer "cerebus.home.genyosha.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cmJ4h1HZZz3jcr for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 15:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sr@genyosha.net designates 50.39.243.221 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sr@genyosha.net Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (ops0.genyosha.net [50.39.243.219]) by ns1.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 59EFReKY005777 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@genyosha.net) Received: from dragon.home.genyosha.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 59EFRZwO058096 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr@dragon.home.genyosha.net) Received: (from sr@localhost) by dragon.home.genyosha.net (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) id 59EFRZ9Q058095 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sr) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:27:35 -0700 From: Steve Rikli To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: etcupdate usage Message-ID: References: List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: inspected by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) for IP:'50.39.243.219' DOMAIN:'ops0.genyosha.net' HELO:'dragon.home.genyosha.net' FROM:'sr@genyosha.net' RCPT:'' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (ns1.genyosha.net [50.39.243.221]); Tue, 14 Oct 2025 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.29 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.986]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20055, ipnet:50.39.128.0/17, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[genyosha.net]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cmJ4h1HZZz3jcr On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 09:03:40AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Hello, > > I do not understand how to use etcupdate. I am lost in the different options. > s there somewhere a tutorial on its usage ? The general reference I use for updating FreeBSD, which discusses several different methods (src, binary, etc): https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/ For upgrading systems from src (*not* pkgbase or freebsd-update) I use this as a reference: "26.6. Updating FreeBSD from Source" https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#makeworld There are several examples and walk-thru, both quickstart and more thorough + annotated. For etcupdate in particular, there is this specific section: "26.6.6.1. Merging Configuration Files with etcupdate(8)" https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#updating-src-completing-merge-etcupdate in general, in my experience there isn't usually a lot you need to do most times for etcupdate to work. I run it with every world src upgrade procedure as advised, so my /etc/ doesn't grow stale or drift from the installed binaries and such. > PS: on a machine that juste went from 14.2 to 14.3, etcuodate diff > shows diff, but etcupdate says > Failed to build new tree. > > Is it because src is not on the machine ? (not enough disk) That's a possibility; etcupdate is for upgrading systems from src (not freebsd-update binary upgrades) and it constructs its list of diffs and changes from /usr/src/etc/ for reference. > I soon will upgrade another machine (with /usr/src this one), and I'd > prefer to be sure to be able to use etcupdate on it (especially if I > need to to a extract or build before upgrade) If you're just getting started building FreeBSD from src, it's worth reading that whole Handbook chapter 26.6 IME. sr. 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.79 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rail.eu.org,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rail.eu.org:s=m2024]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rail.eu.org:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cmMTQ3H6rz48gm Le 14/10/2025 à 17:27, Steve Rikli a écrit : > On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 09:03:40AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I do not understand how to use etcupdate. I am lost in the different options. >> s there somewhere a tutorial on its usage ? > The general reference I use for updating FreeBSD, which discusses several > different methods (src, binary, etc): > > https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/ > > For upgrading systems from src (*not* pkgbase or freebsd-update) I use > this as a reference: > > "26.6. Updating FreeBSD from Source" > https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#makeworld > > There are several examples and walk-thru, both quickstart and more > thorough + annotated. For etcupdate in particular, there is this > specific section: > > "26.6.6.1. Merging Configuration Files with etcupdate(8)" > https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#updating-src-completing-merge-etcupdate > > in general, in my experience there isn't usually a lot you need to do > most times for etcupdate to work. I run it with every world src upgrade > procedure as advised, so my /etc/ doesn't grow stale or drift from the > installed binaries and such. > >> PS: on a machine that juste went from 14.2 to 14.3, etcuodate diff >> shows diff, but etcupdate says >> Failed to build new tree. >> >> Is it because src is not on the machine ? (not enough disk) > That's a possibility; etcupdate is for upgrading systems from src > (not freebsd-update binary upgrades) and it constructs its list of > diffs and changes from /usr/src/etc/ for reference. > >> I soon will upgrade another machine (with /usr/src this one), and I'd >> prefer to be sure to be able to use etcupdate on it (especially if I >> need to to a extract or build before upgrade) > If you're just getting started building FreeBSD from src, it's worth > reading that whole Handbook chapter 26.6 IME. > > sr. > > I use freebsd-update thus, I do not need /etc/update. Except maybe for jails : I use thin jails with a shared world using nullfs (as in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/jails/#creating-thin-jail-nullfs ). When updating them with freebsd-update, following https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/jails/#upgrading-thin-jail I then update the sahred part. However /etc is not shared, thus cannot be updated. Should I use etcupdate then ? From nobody Thu Oct 16 18:26:59 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cnbyh0T7wz6CwJl for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Received: from beesty.loosely.org (beesty.loosely.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cnbyg2P6bz481x for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org designates 2600:3c01:e000:4c0::2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org Received: from [::1] (helo=localhost ident=itz) by beesty.loosely.org with esmtp (Exim 4.98.2-41-8ebb9f17d) (envelope-from ) id 1v9Sgl-000000004rK-2HMT for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2025 11:26:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 11:26:59 -0700 From: fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ROCK64 anyone? 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Yesterday I powered it up for the first time with an SD card flashed with FreeBSD 14.3. Perhaps naively, I connected a USB keyboard and a HDMI display. I saw nothing (except the power LED on the board itself). Is this supposed to work as the BSD console, or do I have to mess with a serial connection? In the latter case, I'd prefer to get started over ssh, so is sshd enabled to start with and what is the initial login and password? Aside: there is also a Raspberry Pi image, but only for RPi 3 and 4. What is the status of RPi 5? Known to not work, known to work, supposed to work, unknown? Thanks, -- Ian From nobody Fri Oct 17 10:56:14 2025 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cp1wL0b8wz6D5vf for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2025 10:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cp1wK46Svz3H4B for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2025 10:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [192.168.1.154] (mux.fjl.org.uk [92.62.9.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 59HAuJRj032614; Fri, 17 Oct 2025 11:56:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------Ca5IpzkumJnFey8nmFK2Ls01" Message-ID: <8f352c4a-bc86-4b57-b388-ad7cc18f8919@fjl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 11:56:14 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [List] ROCK64 anyone? Content-Language: en-GB To: questions@freebsd.org References: From: Frank Leonhardt Cc: fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cp1wK46Svz3H4B This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------Ca5IpzkumJnFey8nmFK2Ls01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 16/10/2025 19:26, fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org wrote: > Hello, > > I have the ROCK64 SBC by Pine64, and it is one of the handful of > non-x86 systems with an image intended for it on the FreeBSD download > page. Yesterday I powered it up for the first time with an SD card > flashed with FreeBSD 14.3. Perhaps naively, I connected a USB keyboard > and a HDMI display. I saw nothing (except the power LED on the board > itself). Is this supposed to work as the BSD console, or do I have to > mess with a serial connection? > > In the latter case, I'd prefer to get started over ssh, so is sshd > enabled to start with and what is the initial login and password? I don't have any experience of that particular board, but if the HDMI isn't working (which I think it should be) you will have to connect using a serial console. There are problems with the resolution not being detected on some monitors - force the thing by adding something like hw.fb.default_mode="1280x720"in /boot/loader.conf The default root password is blank, but in case you didn't know, the default sshd configuration doesn't allow root logins so although sshd is normally enabled out of the box it's not going to be much use to you for initial configuration. The serial console settings are either 1.5M or 115,200. Do you have a serial connection already, or are you using it stand-alone? It looks to me like the serial console will be on UART2 (pins 8 and 10). If it is a monitor resolution detection issue, you could also try it with another monitor. Good luck! And if you have any more questions, remember I don't actually have this board so I'm the wrong person to ask :-O Regards, Frank. --------------Ca5IpzkumJnFey8nmFK2Ls01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


On 16/10/2025 19:26, fatty.merchandise677@aceecat.org wrote:
Hello,

I have the ROCK64 SBC by Pine64, and it is one of the handful of
non-x86 systems with an image intended for it on the FreeBSD download
page. Yesterday I powered it up for the first time with an SD card
flashed with FreeBSD 14.3. Perhaps naively, I connected a USB keyboard
and a HDMI display. I saw nothing (except the power LED on the board
itself). Is this supposed to work as the BSD console, or do I have to
mess with a serial connection?

In the latter case, I'd prefer to get started over ssh, so is sshd
enabled to start with and what is the initial login and password?

I don't have any experience of that particular board, but if the HDMI isn't working (which I think it should be) you will have to connect using a serial console. There are problems with the resolution not being detected on some monitors - force the thing by adding something like hw.fb.default_mode="1280x720"in /boot/loader.conf

The default root password is blank, but in case you didn't know, the default sshd configuration doesn't allow root logins so although sshd is normally enabled out of the box it's not going to be much use to you for initial configuration.

The serial console settings are either 1.5M or 115,200. Do you have a serial connection already, or are you using it stand-alone? It looks to me like the serial console will be on UART2 (pins 8 and 10).

If it is a monitor resolution detection issue, you could also try it with another monitor.

Good luck! And if you have any more questions, remember I don't actually have this board so I'm the wrong person to ask :-O

Regards, Frank.


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I can do this on a lynix system but can't figure out how on my fbsd 13.5. I have urndis loaded: $ kldstat | grep urn 16 1 0xffffffff82773000 3380 if_urndis.ko $ dmesg | tail ugen7.2: at usbus7 umodem0 on uhub2 umodem0: on usbus7 umodem0: data interface 2, has no CM over data, has no break I could not find anything that seemed relevant in the handbook, but may have missed it. Thanks, Gary From nobody Sun Oct 19 17:40:37 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cqQnj2Z8kz6DVXw for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cqQnj0gPsz3slY for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=unixarea.de ; s=blu3434000; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=kumrDnDS3HWjAm+N9jWhlPZSaQ1iFAzrO+Q3GpcPA/Y=; b=g1UNwSz+JpX3hz5gYCjRbK0QTy n7vEHy4xPLaWtHoY1+UZN3FBfdHgHYhxDOOZbCofRcS2PcYTTNEs3ArKbIZ0sG3i4BN1nCTihIbar NAjCvcwKUnoao4flI5fzzQmU4MNMSCu70bM5wG2y6Ui5dvXabBtA2lWKbn5T2gB4EElJRt2CR/RR+ FzLjb/pFo2hXh46lpMciOvc1+crD1GG7jXGuYvKZtcpxRmOPWifOvTqZFgEX1t1ZqmjTVVRxI/3lP QG1iN2eKvXvkyZ11ubezLQ2YkDVQR7UZvDlhotxlWojR2M22BjOPRG78PE1xrn1U4KGKGYd03F9hY L2+/LGWA==; Received: from [62.216.210.150] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1vAXOY-00ASH1-HT; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:40:38 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-1400094 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.17.1/8.14.9) with ESMTP id 59JHecgQ009564; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:40:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.17.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 59JHebsT009563; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:40:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:40:37 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Gary Aitken Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mount phone for file transfer? Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Gary Aitken , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <68fecabb-1b86-4533-9766-8fe3f86c875a@dreamchaser.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <68fecabb-1b86-4533-9766-8fe3f86c875a@dreamchaser.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT r1400094 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails in HTML will not be read! Please, only plain text. X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 62.216.210.150 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.0.0/19, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cqQnj0gPsz3slY El día domingo, octubre 19, 2025 a las 11:13:50a. m. -0600, Gary Aitken escribió: > Hi all, > > How does one mount a phone (android) to transfer files? > I can do this on a lynix system but can't figure out how on my fbsd 13.5. > I have urndis loaded: > > $ kldstat | grep urn > 16 1 0xffffffff82773000 3380 if_urndis.ko > > $ dmesg | tail > ugen7.2: at usbus7 > umodem0 on uhub2 > umodem0: on usbus7 > umodem0: data interface 2, has no CM over data, has no break > > ... I don't mount, but use SSH and SCP from/to my Linux cellphone Purism L5. On plugin of the USB cable the following driver is loaded: Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: ugen0.4: at usbus0 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: cdce0 on uhub0 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: cdce0: on usbus0 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: ue0: on cdce0 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: ue0: Ethernet address: a2:7a:8e:7f:ac:93 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: umodem0 on uhub0 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: umodem0: on usbus0 Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: umodem0: data interface 1, has no CM over data, has no break Oct 19 19:33:24 c720-1400094 kernel: ue0: link state changed to UP Oct 19 19:33:29 c720-1400094 kernel: usb_dev_resume_peer: Clearing device remote wakeup failed: USB_ERR_TIMEOUT $ ifconfig ue0 ue0: flags=1008843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=80000 ether a2:7a:8e:7f:ac:93 inet 10.42.0.19 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.42.0.255 inet6 fe80::a07a:8eff:fe7f:ac93%ue0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 media: Ethernet autoselect status: active nd6 options=23 This is done by devd-hooks: $ cat /usr/local/etc/devd/l5.conf notify 1 { match "system" "IFNET"; match "subsystem" "ue0"; match "type" "ATTACH"; action "/usr/local/etc/devd/l5.sh"; }; $ cat /usr/local/etc/devd/l5.sh #!/bin/sh # dhclient ue0 exit 0 And works for years this way already, I forgot the hooks and have had to look into :-) HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub An die deutsche Bundesregierung: Nein, meine Söhne geb' ich nicht für Ihren Krieg! 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To: questions@freebsd.org References: <68fecabb-1b86-4533-9766-8fe3f86c875a@dreamchaser.org> Content-Language: en-US From: "Jin Guojun[VFF]" In-Reply-To: <68fecabb-1b86-4533-9766-8fe3f86c875a@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.73 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.274]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::112f:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cqQwR1R0hz3vh8 On 10/19/25 10:13, Gary Aitken wrote: > Hi all, > > How does one mount a phone (android) to transfer files? > I can do this on a lynix system but can't figure out how on my fbsd 13.5. > I have urndis loaded: > > $ kldstat | grep urn > 16    1 0xffffffff82773000     3380 if_urndis.ko > > $ dmesg | tail > ugen7.2: at usbus7 > umodem0 on uhub2 > umodem0: on usbus7 > umodem0: data interface 2, has no CM over data, has no break > > I could not find anything that seemed relevant in the handbook, > but may have missed it. > > Thanks, > > Gary > # kldload fusefs.ko # jmtpfs -o allow_other /mnt Make sure the phone is allowed other device to access its storage: usually, the phone will ask this permission when  jmtpfs command is issued. -Jin From nobody Sun Oct 19 18:28:50 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cqRtf5FYNz6DYwq for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 18:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4cqRtf2ygTz42g8 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 18:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.98.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1vAY9C-00000000Dqi-1lCw; Sun, 19 Oct 2025 12:28:50 -0600 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 12:28:50 -0600 From: The Doctor To: Gary Aitken Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: mount phone for file transfer? Message-ID: References: <68fecabb-1b86-4533-9766-8fe3f86c875a@dreamchaser.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <68fecabb-1b86-4533-9766-8fe3f86c875a@dreamchaser.org> X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6171, ipnet:204.209.81.0/24, country:CA] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cqRtf2ygTz42g8 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 11:13:50AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > Hi all, > > How does one mount a phone (android) to transfer files? > I can do this on a lynix system but can't figure out how on my fbsd 13.5. > I have urndis loaded: > > $ kldstat | grep urn > 16 1 0xffffffff82773000 3380 if_urndis.ko > > $ dmesg | tail > ugen7.2: at usbus7 > umodem0 on uhub2 > umodem0: on usbus7 > umodem0: data interface 2, has no CM over data, has no break > > I could not find anything that seemed relevant in the handbook, > but may have missed it. > Try the ports for mounting your android file. > Thanks, > > Gary > -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! 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