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System updates/upgrades have *always* been managed with freebsd-update. Latest upgrade from 13.3-p6 to 13.4-p1 shows "loader needs to be updated" in the beastie menu in the console now. This is new. # zfs --version zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 (perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same -FreeBSD_gd99134be8 ?!!) This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on a non-boot virtual disk. "zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've not done this (have never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless I'm absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything. I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last September https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.html that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host's /boot/lua files" but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with Azure as the host. What do i have to do? 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This is new. > > # zfs --version > zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 > zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 > > (perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same -FreeBSD_gd99134be8 > ?!!) > > This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on > a non-boot virtual disk. > > "zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've not done this (have > never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless I'm > absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything. > > I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last September > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.= html > that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host's /boot/lua files= " > but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with Azure > as the host. > > What do i have to do? Also, is the warning safe to ignore in this context= ? > In this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky to fix in a pX for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13. It's just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. And even if you hadn't actually updated the loader, it will fail safe for loaders installed from FreeBSD 11 and newer (though not relevant to your use case). It should be in the release notes for 13.4 as a known issue, but the process for post release revision is murky at best. The host vs guest issue you highlighted is a different thing and applies only to bhyve. Warner > --000000000000b62454062a809441 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 8:45=E2=80= =AFAM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:
Hi,

context is

freebsd amd64 vm on Azure (initially installed via azure marketplace severa= l
years ago (12-releng)), and has been upgraded as updates became available <= br> with freebsd-update over the years all the way up to 13.4-p1 now.
System updates/upgrades have *always* been managed with freebsd-update.

Latest upgrade from 13.3-p6 to 13.4-p1 shows "loader needs to be updat= ed"
in the beastie menu in the console now. This is new.

# zfs --version
zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8
zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8

(perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same -FreeBSD_gd99134be8 ?= !!)

This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on
a non-boot virtual disk.

"zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've not done = this (have
never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless I'm absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything.

I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last September
https://list= s.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.html
that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host's /boo= t/lua files"
but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with Azure as the host.

What do i have to do? Also, is the warning safe to ignore in this context?<= br>

I= n this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky to fix = in a pX for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13.= It's just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. And even if you had= n't actually updated the loader, it will fail safe for loaders installe= d from FreeBSD 11 and newer (though not relevant to your use case). It shou= ld be in the release notes for 13.4 as a known issue, but the process for p= ost release revision is murky at best.

The host vs guest issue you highlighted is a different thing= and applies only to bhyve.

Warner
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Skimming through the commit and screenshots from the differential revision (haven't tested it personally yet) I see that it describes it as changing options to the ZFS pool but is then followed by changing options for datasets within the pool. There is a difference for options that apply to a pool versus options that apply to a dataset. I thought reading and writing properties is only sometimes interchangeable between pool and dataset with ZFS tools doing what is intended instead of what was asked while other times you just get an error. Can this be clarified for adjusting dataset(s) properties instead of pool properties if that is what is being done? Example screenshots form discussion while it was worked on normally showed compression=lz4 and atime=off which is the default for all but 1 dataset last I reviewed what the installer is doing. I figure altering compression, encryption, (ref)reservation/quota would be more likely to be adjusted and away from defaults when adjustments are made by users. Setting options that apply to all datasets on the one pool is a handy quick override. Further expanding how users are prompted to be able to adjust each dataset individually would be more useful than having to change all datasets to use same override. This then opens up options like a read only dataset that won't be used for storage getting refreservation to force a certain amount of space to remain free; this example is a dataset property that is easy to add after the fact but likely more steps for someone wanting to automate an install with it being done during install but some proerties require being set during creation or have limitations and consequences otherwise. It would be useful if the installer gave us disk selection, likely combined with pool(s) creation but both could be separate configuration screens with one feeding to the next; that opens up options for multiple pool creation during install and with different devices, layouts, and options. Then having control of pool specific layout+options which I presume is quite hard to implement in a way giving full control to the user. After that, a list of all partitions/datasets where selecting them allows changing individual partition/dataset properties would be handy; inheriting the properties to other datasets should be part of the user prompt when adjusting datasets that others depend on. Such an installer layout should make adding geli, labels, etc. start to become easier to provide as additional options or entirely new layers between these for the installer's interface. 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Previously there were about 25 files with permission r-xr-xr-x and 871 with other permissions (mainly -r--r--r--). But on the FreeBSD 14.2 (upgraded by freebsd-update), there are 809 files with r-xr-xr-x permission and only 66 with other permissions (63 with r--r--r--) Why it was changed? I tought modules does not need to be executable. 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From: Zhenlei Huang In-Reply-To: <5120eb91-86c1-4c60-8d73-cbc46689669a@quip.cz> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 10:35:59 +0800 Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <10B8CED2-104F-4047-AED0-2B270CECB258@FreeBSD.org> References: <5120eb91-86c1-4c60-8d73-cbc46689669a@quip.cz> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.10) > On Jan 1, 2025, at 7:55 AM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: >=20 > I upgraded my desktop from FreeBSD 13.3 to 14.2 few days ago and = noticed there is a huge difference in the permissions on the kernel = modules in /boot/kernel. > Previously there were about 25 files with permission r-xr-xr-x and 871 = with other permissions (mainly -r--r--r--). > But on the FreeBSD 14.2 (upgraded by freebsd-update), there are 809 = files with r-xr-xr-x permission and only 66 with other permissions (63 = with r--r--r--) 13.4 has the same permissions for kernel modules. >=20 > Why it was changed? I tought modules does not need to be executable. Yes, indeed. The permission of kernel modules was changed from 555 to = KMODMODE ( NOBINMODE, 444 ). 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Blind cc here: Eric's address. Re: , please note that '-r FreeBSD' in the first command may be superfluous. Enhancements to pkg include: multiple uses of `-r`, to specify multiple repositories (version 1.21.99.4). Not yet in the ports collection. 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In-Reply-To: <10B8CED2-104F-4047-AED0-2B270CECB258@FreeBSD.org> (Zhenlei Huang's message of "Thu, 2 Jan 2025 10:35:59 +0800") References: <5120eb91-86c1-4c60-8d73-cbc46689669a@quip.cz> <10B8CED2-104F-4047-AED0-2B270CECB258@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:05:46 +0100 Message-ID: <8634i1r3f9.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zhenlei Huang writes: > Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> writes: > > Previously there were about 25 files with permission r-xr-xr-x and > > 871 with other permissions (mainly -r--r--r--). > > But on the FreeBSD 14.2 (upgraded by freebsd-update), there are 809 > > files with r-xr-xr-x permission and only 66 with other permissions > > (63 with r--r--r--) > Yes, indeed. The permission of kernel modules was changed from 555 to > KMODMODE ( NOBINMODE, 444 ). See https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42768 > for more context. And yet the observed change is the opposite. Looking at a 14.2 kernel tarball, the modules are not executable, but on a 14.2 system updated from an earlier release using freebsd-update, they are. 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From: Zhenlei Huang In-Reply-To: <8634i1r3f9.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 18:15:39 +0800 Cc: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1CF31C37-9177-4267-8387-2E5089DDC2F9@FreeBSD.org> References: <5120eb91-86c1-4c60-8d73-cbc46689669a@quip.cz> <10B8CED2-104F-4047-AED0-2B270CECB258@FreeBSD.org> <8634i1r3f9.fsf@ltc.des.dev> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.10) > On Jan 2, 2025, at 5:05 PM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav = wrote: >=20 > Zhenlei Huang writes: >> Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> writes: >>> Previously there were about 25 files with permission r-xr-xr-x and >>> 871 with other permissions (mainly -r--r--r--). >>> But on the FreeBSD 14.2 (upgraded by freebsd-update), there are 809 >>> files with r-xr-xr-x permission and only 66 with other permissions >>> (63 with r--r--r--) >> Yes, indeed. The permission of kernel modules was changed from 555 to >> KMODMODE ( NOBINMODE, 444 ). See https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42768 >> for more context. >=20 > And yet the observed change is the opposite. >=20 > Looking at a 14.2 kernel tarball, the modules are not executable, but = on > a 14.2 system updated from an earlier release using freebsd-update, = they > are. 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X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D283755 --- Comment #2 from Eric --- (in reply to comment #1) Thanks. With the suggested settings, it seems the following sequence=20 of two commands is a practicle work-around at the moment: pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-kmods As mentioned, and contrary to what is documented in pkg-upgrade(8) and pkg.conf(5), I haven't been able to deploy PRIORITY in FreeBSD.conf or CONSERVATIVE_UPGRADE in /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf in such a way=20 that it enables the use of pkg upgrade (without the -r option) spanning both repositories. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Jan 3 00:56:53 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YPQC350SBz5kC3H for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 00:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=rg+p=T3=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YPQC30cP8z4LQN; Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=rg+p=T3=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EE4D7897; Fri, 3 Jan 2025 01:56:55 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quip.cz; s=private; t=1735865815; bh=AVImaJT78/DfWbWki+iayNjnIqynzsYIOSbBm/XBzds=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=MgBtKfZSqtME0IadgEQEwYxIecEWJKUos0qYeoGJgG1R68V1Yq7wWazUVYlnBTTBY eZECBlzGr2r/kcszS7k4IUMdy6NrmevexoGCkmJq8We/oLM8bZ6FD1rfqK9O7nIUR/ uL9VTJF5UjwrO29tJxBhAAfMrZzWW6p8qaxcr2Lo= Received: from [192.168.145.49] (ip-89-177-27-225.bb.vodafone.cz [89.177.27.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1368FD788A; Fri, 3 Jan 2025 01:56:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quip.cz; s=private; t=1735865814; bh=AVImaJT78/DfWbWki+iayNjnIqynzsYIOSbBm/XBzds=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=IocOYy8k1oCfoHJOnfwVChPRh37OLd0RaZESUCcNP7EshxUMS3ZCq6fp+FZ3PtJet ZRFnzRAwETPdjkVlRP4Xj8cztQ8jYHT5SQbdS5Qh+S47p4pOnpt4FtN1mGY9nkJxm8 KWQaN4e/D7VVBeDimOcbPp9qHEA5vlNI/Yb1h+5A= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 01:56:53 +0100 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Should kernel modules be executable? To: Zhenlei Huang , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , hrant@dadivanyan.net References: <5120eb91-86c1-4c60-8d73-cbc46689669a@quip.cz> <10B8CED2-104F-4047-AED0-2B270CECB258@FreeBSD.org> <8634i1r3f9.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <1CF31C37-9177-4267-8387-2E5089DDC2F9@FreeBSD.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <1CF31C37-9177-4267-8387-2E5089DDC2F9@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YPQC30cP8z4LQN X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[p=T3=quip.cz=000.fbsd]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42000, ipnet:94.124.104.0/21, country:CZ] On 02/01/2025 11:15, Zhenlei Huang wrote: > > >> On Jan 2, 2025, at 5:05 PM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >> >> Zhenlei Huang writes: >>> Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> writes: >>>> Previously there were about 25 files with permission r-xr-xr-x and >>>> 871 with other permissions (mainly -r--r--r--). >>>> But on the FreeBSD 14.2 (upgraded by freebsd-update), there are 809 >>>> files with r-xr-xr-x permission and only 66 with other permissions >>>> (63 with r--r--r--) >>> Yes, indeed. The permission of kernel modules was changed from 555 to >>> KMODMODE ( NOBINMODE, 444 ). See https://reviews.freebsd.org/D42768 >>> for more context. >> >> And yet the observed change is the opposite. >> >> Looking at a 14.2 kernel tarball, the modules are not executable, but on >> a 14.2 system updated from an earlier release using freebsd-update, they >> are. > > I also observed this. `freebsd-upgrade IDS` reported the issue and I manually fixed the *wrong* permissions. Thanks to all who replied. I upgraded another machine from 13.3 to 14.2 and checked everything before and after upgrade. If the modules were read only in 13.3, they are read only after the upgrade. So the ones that are executable were executable before the upgrade too and the upgrade did not "fix" the permissions on them. I will manually set 0444 on modules on all machines. 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Fri, 3 Jan 2025 09:05:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 14:05:27 +0000 From: void To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Loader needs to be updated" (azure guest context) Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YPlhp61CXz4M7M X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.29 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.691]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[f-m.fm,none]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[f-m.fm:s=fm2,messagingengine.com:s=fm2]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:202.12.124.128/27]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[202.12.124.159:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[f-m.fm:+,messagingengine.com:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim] On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 10:59:47AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >In this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky to fix in a pX >for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13. It's >just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. 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X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: attachments.created Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D283755 --- Comment #3 from Eric --- Created attachment 256383 --> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D256383&action= =3Dedit debug output from pkg upgrade drm-61-kmod --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.= From nobody Fri Jan 3 17:13:52 2025 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YPqt918RHz5kD33 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 17:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YPqt82BLwz4jgF for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2025 17:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1735924432; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ToB8Q0Xe1Mhp8gyiaXl/3BnnKHcNctG5ImAoQi/r3/s=; b=bbVWryOhYcQTM6OAnYyP5+8Egwl8GxEEoSgavt46BvZvXcYg60FBSv4KM8dRj9iBO06xY/ tU3ytTpTAoGx8kXqmUYT2+bZftZtZBiGYSyq5rBo4cnNyxJWh1cAPH+0mxG7ibvBLiJ1SE guL/pbKe7YwPjL9WMSQvGE5gsrAPx0LwlPlVGq7eGOzX3gyQR9YOSHgRQQqlsprA8a5gw2 PRUpHsT0M3hmUYooiAdQ6zVd2Y4d/Lyv+StFq/afZi3s6gVVJEWh+e9I6AIxcOLF2tkG7i g7jmoWTy0QO5lcQcjZPXkTlZqFmBP4Q+w2YTQvHqfStrb0viO/9BtxMMjiPHKA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1735924432; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=DdyBYacxkPS6RMfgTG4AQnyGrCsGz3pGHu5TtI6t/j5QvRPinhOhyDBpUs5jCHYOPehDlY Y33r0C5WKwU/9ZJNKCzOhTOv9hVKwyxHquukfnXRpDKPwEQgowhIHQzfsO3RjTlU92Tso0 bh3SJniXLdQRQ6SidCtUmCsf05cEcYO4V1EO2dWwMMYXRopa/T8G5rKYmz27lE3GrRg2oS BZSP1WbC7fsVmc6uw6uy08pQP0yqrCCE/jq0EYwOlDgEfZSzeP/IaP0sqnjGrTlypvrjey IwwvI3UWvH1aCWiMPvZ3SdqjLexszEM2yleQ0e7ZssbP8hOKVjNChlDttgM8mA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YPqt81TxRz155 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 17:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 503HDq2s045154 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2025 17:13:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 503HDqkj045153 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 3 Jan 2025 17:13:52 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 283755] ports-mgmt/pkg: pkg-upgrade(8) - version comparison new kernel modules ("kmods") failure Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 17:13:52 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: erichanskrs@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: pkg@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? 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This is new. >> >> # zfs --version >> zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 >> zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 >> >> (perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same -FreeBSD_gd99134be8 >> ?!!) >> >> This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on >> a non-boot virtual disk. >> >> "zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've not done this (have >> never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless I'm >> absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything. >> >> I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last September >> >> https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.html >> that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host's /boot/lua files" >> but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with Azure >> as the host. >> >> What do i have to do? Also, is the warning safe to ignore in this context? >> > > In this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky to fix in a pX > for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13. It's > just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. And even if you hadn't actually > updated the loader, it will fail safe for loaders installed from FreeBSD 11 > and newer (though not relevant to your use case). It should be in the > release notes for 13.4 as a known issue, but the process for post release > revision is murky at best. 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This is new. > >> > >> # zfs --version > >> zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 > >> zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8 > >> > >> (perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same > -FreeBSD_gd99134be8 > >> ?!!) > >> > >> This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on > >> a non-boot virtual disk. > >> > >> "zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've not done this (hav= e > >> never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless I'm > >> absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything. > >> > >> I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last September > >> > >> > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.= html > >> that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host's /boot/lua > files" > >> but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with Azure > >> as the host. > >> > >> What do i have to do? Also, is the warning safe to ignore in this > context? > >> > > > > In this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky to fix in = a > pX > > for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13. It'= s > > just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. And even if you hadn't actual= ly > > updated the loader, it will fail safe for loaders installed from FreeBS= D > 11 > > and newer (though not relevant to your use case). It should be in the > > release notes for 13.4 as a known issue, but the process for post relea= se > > revision is murky at best. > > Why is there no errata entry for it? > I don't know how to create that. If someone reminds me I'll add it. Warner > > The host vs guest issue you highlighted is a different thing and applie= s > > only to bhyve. > > > > Warner > > > >> > > > > > --000000000000486e26062ad08289 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Jan 3, 2025, 10:15=E2=80= =AFAM Edward Sanford Sutton, III <mirror176@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/30/24 10:59, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 8:45=E2=80=AFAM void <void@f-m.fm> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> context is
>>
>> freebsd amd64 vm on Azure (initially installed via azure marketpla= ce
>> several
>> years ago (12-releng)), and has been upgraded as updates became av= ailable
>> with freebsd-update over the years all the way up to 13.4-p1 now.<= br> >> System updates/upgrades have *always* been managed with freebsd-up= date.
>>
>> Latest upgrade from 13.3-p6 to 13.4-p1 shows "loader needs to= be updated"
>> in the beastie menu in the console now. This is new.
>>
>> # zfs --version
>> zfs-2.1.14-FreeBSD_gd99134be8
>> zfs-kmod-2.1.15-FreeBSD_gd99134be8
>>
>> (perhaps side issue - different version numbers, same -FreeBSD_gd9= 9134be8
>> ?!!)
>>
>> This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data = on
>> a non-boot virtual disk.
>>
>> "zpool status" invites me to upgrade the pool. I've = not done this (have
>> never done it with this vm, either), and don't want to unless = I'm
>> absolutely certain upgrading the pool won't break everything.<= br> >>
>> I note from a (similar, but different context) thread last Septemb= er
>>
>> htt= ps://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2024-September/006378.html<= /a>
>> that FreeBSD uses "the guest's boot loader and the host&#= 39;s /boot/lua files"
>> but I'm clueless how this would apply in an amd64 context with= Azure
>> as the host.
>>
>> What do i have to do? Also, is the warning safe to ignore in this = context?
>>
>
> In this context, it's a known false positive. It's too risky t= o fix in a pX
> for 13.4, so will be in 13.5 since the fix is already in stable/13. It= 's
> just cosmetic, there's no bug it exposes. And even if you hadn'= ;t actually
> updated the loader, it will fail safe for loaders installed from FreeB= SD 11
> and newer (though not relevant to your use case). It should be in the<= br> > release notes for 13.4 as a known issue, but the process for post rele= ase
> revision is murky at best.

Why is there no errata entry for it?



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DBG(2)[3037]> universe: add new remote pkg: drm-61-kmod, (drm-61-kmod-6.1.92.1402000_3:. . .) DBG(2)[3037]> universe: add new remote pkg: drm-61-kmod, (drm-61-kmod-6.1.92.1401000_3:. . .) DBG(1)[3037]> removing drm-61-kmod from the request as it is the same as lo= cal Note the 2 "remote" examples, just one of which is a match to the "local" one. The mismatch is larger: drm-61-kmod-6.1.92.1401000_3 < drm-61-kmod-6.1.92.1402000_3 --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=