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Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:26:31 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: virtualization@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 285681] [Hyper-V] i386 panic during storvsc_xferbuf_prepare() Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:26:31 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 15.0-CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: crash X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: commit-hook@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: In Progress X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: virtualization@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D285681 --- Comment #31 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch stable/14 references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3De6a3962d7dd7f302c094d5cea68a3d63a= 1b67eb6 commit e6a3962d7dd7f302c094d5cea68a3d63a1b67eb6 Author: Mark Johnston AuthorDate: 2025-03-31 10:45:55 +0000 Commit: Mark Johnston CommitDate: 2025-04-15 02:25:24 +0000 hyperv/storvsc: Avoid conditional asserts in storvsc_xferbuf_prepare() whu@ cannot reproduce the assertion failure which led to these ifdefs being added in the first place, and since they appear wrong, i.e., the assertions ought to apply to all platforms, let's remove them. This reverts commits 0af5a0cd2788efce9f444f4f781357d317bb0bb1 and 6f7b1310b6fe36f9bb653d3e97bc257adced3a2b. 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D285415 --- Comment #19 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch stable/14 references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D24b82123a83e375f2b4a045c4bff3fb86= 9a7c9dc commit 24b82123a83e375f2b4a045c4bff3fb869a7c9dc Author: Mark Johnston AuthorDate: 2025-03-26 09:34:53 +0000 Commit: Mark Johnston CommitDate: 2025-04-15 02:25:24 +0000 i386: Avoid registering overlapping vm_phys_seg entries The entry added in pmap_bootstrap() is guaranteed to be covered by that added in pmap_cold(). This apparently went unnoticed until commit 8a14ddcc1d8e ("vm_phys: Check for overlap when adding a segment"). PR: 285415 Tested by: dim MFC after: 2 weeks (cherry picked from commit e173855c9f6b3b87c975418d0acf1c22ac4f1626) sys/i386/i386/pmap.c | 9 --------- 1 file changed, 9 deletions(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Apr 15 02:26:35 2025 X-Original-To: virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Zc7MH4GGTz5sjY5 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Zc7MH1Wxpz3PZx for ; 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charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D285681 --- Comment #32 from commit-hook@FreeBSD.org --- A commit in branch stable/14 references this bug: URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3D07c5a2486cc6f8e64715b5d7c31ccfa02= f9f3745 commit 07c5a2486cc6f8e64715b5d7c31ccfa02f9f3745 Author: Mark Johnston AuthorDate: 2025-03-31 10:45:14 +0000 Commit: Mark Johnston CommitDate: 2025-04-15 02:25:24 +0000 hyperv/storvsc: Fix busdma constraints - The BUS_DMA_KEEP_PG_OFFSET flag is needed, since storvsc_xferbuf_prepare() assumes that only the first segment may have a non-zero offset, and that all following segments are page-sized and -aligned. - storvsc_xferbuf_prepare() handles 64-bit bus addresses, so avoid unneeded bouncing on i386. PR: 285681 Reported by: dim Tested by: dim, whu MFC after: 2 weeks (cherry picked from commit a319ba694538a38429115aaaf1d4b3946ea3a8b5) sys/dev/hyperv/storvsc/hv_storvsc_drv_freebsd.c | 7 ++++++- 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.= From nobody Tue Apr 15 13:10:54 2025 X-Original-To: virtualization@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ZcPfl6b66z5t7N1 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ZcPfl5Gb4z3kNn for ; 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[178.175.197.122]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5f37f475234sm9925306a12.16.2025.04.17.02.15.57 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Apr 2025 02:15:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Orsatti Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1037096C-A1F3-44C1-97D4-2F3F3BAF5267" List-Id: Discussion List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-virtualization List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51.11.1\)) Subject: Win 11 Pro has high CPU usage on idle in bhyve Message-Id: <95CDB4A8-D05C-4BB8-8049-FBA967E40D60@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:15:44 +0200 To: "virtualization@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3776.700.51.11.1) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.83 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.83)[0.827]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_SPACES(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~,3:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[virtualization@freebsd.org]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[virtualization@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::533:from]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ZdXLm3cKGz3phC X-Spamd-Bar: / --Apple-Mail=_1037096C-A1F3-44C1-97D4-2F3F3BAF5267 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 G=E2=80=99day I installed a windows 11 virtual machine with bhyve on FreeBSD 14.2 x64 = and I always have a very busy CPU even when windows is in Idle. I tried different CPU configurations for the VM, but without success. 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THey have no fix and your problem is likely not this, but it is a possibility. Obviously, if you don't run Outlook Classic, this is not the problem. You can see the article at https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/classic_outlook_cpu_spike/ --=20 Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer. E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --0000000000008ea87c0632f8ce4a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 2:16=E2= =80=AFAM Marco Orsatti <marco.d= mc12@gmail.com> wrote:
G=E2=80=99= day

I installed a windows 11 virtual machine with bhyve on FreeBSD 14.2 x64 and= I always have a very busy CPU even when windows is in Idle.
I tried different CPU configurations for the VM, but without success.

This is the current configuration (vm-bhyve):

loader=3D"uefi"
graphics_port=3D"5950"
graphics=3D"yes"
graphics_res=3D"1024x768"
xhci_mouse=3D"yes"
cpu=3D8
cpu_sockets=3D4
cpu_cores=3D2
#cpu_threads=3D1
memory=3D16G
ahci_device_limit=3D"8"
network0_type=3D"virtio-net"
network0_switch=3D=E2=80=9Cfirewall"
disk0_type=3D"ahci-hd"
disk0_name=3D"/dev/zvol/vm/win11"
disk0_dev=3D"custom"
utctime=3D"no"
bhyve_options=3D"-AP"

The first VM is Windows 11, the second is FreeBSD, the third is Debian, and= the others are Windows 10:





Could it be an incompatibility between windows 11 and my CPU (E5-2690 v4)?<= br>
Thanks

Marco
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This is a long shot= , but Microsoft has admitted that Outlook Classic can cause Windows to spik= e CPU use that is significant. THey have no fix and your problem is likely = not this, but it is a possibility. Obviously, if you don't run Outlook = Classic, this is not the problem. You can see the article at https://www= .theregister.com/2025/04/16/classic_outlook_cpu_spike/
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E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP = Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic in the VM, I also used this = script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove unnecessary = components, but the CPU is still very much in use. It's really a strange behavior because from inside the VM the CPU usage = is around 3% while at the same time from the Host it is at 240% > Marco Orsatti > direttore > I.T. Museum > Museo dell=E2=80=99evoluzione Informatica >=20 > www.itmuseum.it > p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 Felonica (MN) > Tel. +39 320 26 92 994 =20 > Mail. info@itmuseum.it=20 > Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore 14:47, Kevin Oberman = ha scritto: >=20 > On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 2:16=E2=80=AFAM Marco Orsatti = > wrote: >> G=E2=80=99day >>=20 >> I installed a windows 11 virtual machine with bhyve on FreeBSD 14.2 = x64 and I always have a very busy CPU even when windows is in Idle. >> I tried different CPU configurations for the VM, but without success. >>=20 >> This is the current configuration (vm-bhyve): >>=20 >> loader=3D"uefi" >> graphics_port=3D"5950" >> graphics=3D"yes" >> graphics_res=3D"1024x768" >> xhci_mouse=3D"yes" >> cpu=3D8 >> cpu_sockets=3D4 >> cpu_cores=3D2 >> #cpu_threads=3D1 >> memory=3D16G >> ahci_device_limit=3D"8" >> network0_type=3D"virtio-net" >> network0_switch=3D=E2=80=9Cfirewall" >> disk0_type=3D"ahci-hd" >> disk0_name=3D"/dev/zvol/vm/win11" >> disk0_dev=3D"custom" >> utctime=3D"no" >> bhyve_options=3D"-AP" >>=20 >> The first VM is Windows 11, the second is FreeBSD, the third is = Debian, and the others are Windows 10: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Could it be an incompatibility between windows 11 and my CPU (E5-2690 = v4)? >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> Marco > =20 > This is a long shot, but Microsoft has admitted that Outlook Classic = can cause Windows to spike CPU use that is significant. THey have no fix = and your problem is likely not this, but it is a possibility. Obviously, = if you don't run Outlook Classic, this is not the problem. You can see = the article at = https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/classic_outlook_cpu_spike/ > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer. > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 --Apple-Mail=_EB6106BB-965E-4777-9130-4BF9939FC5AF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks Kevin = for the info.

I checked, but there is no Outlook = Classic in the VM, I also used this script = (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove unnecessary = components, but the CPU is still very much in = use.

It's really a strange behavior because = from inside the VM the CPU usage is around 3% while at the same time = from the Host it is at 240%




Marco = Orsatti
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I.T. Museum
Museo dell=E2=80=99evoluzione = Informatica

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p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 = Felonica (MN)
Tel. +39 320 26 92 994 =  
Mail. info@itmuseum.it 

Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore = 14:47, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> ha scritto:

On Thu, Apr 17, = 2025 at 2:16=E2=80=AFAM Marco Orsatti <marco.dmc12@gmail.com> = wrote:
G=E2=80=99day

I installed a windows 11 virtual machine with bhyve on FreeBSD 14.2 x64 = and I always have a very busy CPU even when windows is in Idle.
I tried different CPU configurations for the VM, but without = success.

This is the current configuration (vm-bhyve):

loader=3D"uefi"
graphics_port=3D"5950"
graphics=3D"yes"
graphics_res=3D"1024x768"
xhci_mouse=3D"yes"
cpu=3D8
cpu_sockets=3D4
cpu_cores=3D2
#cpu_threads=3D1
memory=3D16G
ahci_device_limit=3D"8"
network0_type=3D"virtio-net"
network0_switch=3D=E2=80=9Cfirewall"
disk0_type=3D"ahci-hd"
disk0_name=3D"/dev/zvol/vm/win11"
disk0_dev=3D"custom"
utctime=3D"no"
bhyve_options=3D"-AP"

The first VM is Windows 11, the second is FreeBSD, the third is Debian, = and the others are Windows 10:





Could it be an incompatibility between windows 11 and my CPU (E5-2690 = v4)?

Thanks

Marco
 
This is a long shot, but Microsoft has admitted = that Outlook Classic can cause Windows to spike CPU use that is = significant. THey have no fix and your problem is likely not this, but = it is a possibility. Obviously, if you don't run Outlook Classic, this = is not the problem. You can see the article at https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/classic_outlook_cpu_spike/
=
--
Kevin Oberman, = Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer.
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boundary="00000000000057941a0632fcc85b" --00000000000057941a0632fcc85b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19=E2=80=AFAM Marco Orsatti wrote: > Thanks Kevin for the info. > > I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic in the VM, I also used this > script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove unnecessary > components, but the CPU is still very much in use. > > It's really a strange behavior because from inside the VM the CPU usage i= s > around 3% while at the same time from the Host it is at 240% > Since you're running in graphics mode you likely have a VNC client running to connect to it. Try disconnecting the VNC connection and check the bhyve CPU usage. Screen updates need to be sent over VNC so even little changes (blinking cursors, clock, etc.) will generate traffic and use CPU. Mark --00000000000057941a0632fcc85b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19=E2=80=AFAM = Marco Orsatti <marco.dmc12@gmai= l.com> wrote:
=
Thanks Kevin for the= info.

I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic i= n the VM, I also used this script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) = to remove unnecessary components, but the CPU is still very much in use.

It's really a strange behavior because from insi= de the VM the CPU usage is around 3% while at the same time from the Host i= t is at 240%

Since you= 9;re running in graphics mode you likely have a VNC client running to conne= ct to it. Try disconnecting the VNC connection and check the bhyve CPU usag= e. Screen updates need to be sent over VNC so even little changes (blinking= cursors, clock, etc.) will generate traffic and use CPU.

Mark
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I have tested the various editions of Win11, Pro, LTSC, IoT, and they = all have the same CPU problem. > Marco Orsatti > direttore > I.T. Museum > Museo dell=E2=80=99evoluzione Informatica >=20 > www.itmuseum.it > p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 Felonica (MN) > Tel. +39 320 26 92 994 =20 > Mail. info@itmuseum.it - Skype.marco.orsatti > Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore 19:32, Mark Peek ha = scritto: >=20 > On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19=E2=80=AFAM Marco Orsatti = > wrote: >> Thanks Kevin for the info. >>=20 >> I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic in the VM, I also used = this script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove = unnecessary components, but the CPU is still very much in use. >>=20 >> It's really a strange behavior because from inside the VM the CPU = usage is around 3% while at the same time from the Host it is at 240% >=20 > Since you're running in graphics mode you likely have a VNC client = running to connect to it. Try disconnecting the VNC connection and check = the bhyve CPU usage. Screen updates need to be sent over VNC so even = little changes (blinking cursors, clock, etc.) will generate traffic and = use CPU. >=20 > Mark --Apple-Mail=_291C77BA-888B-47BE-A7F2-FF512C6BD6A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I = actually connect to the VM via RDP (from another PC), but when I took = the screenshot and looked at the CPU, there is no active connection, = neither VNC nor RDP.

I have tested the various = editions of Win11, Pro, LTSC, IoT, and they all have the same CPU = problem.




Marco = Orsatti
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I.T. Museum
Museo dell=E2=80=99evoluzione = Informatica

www.itmuseum.it
p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 = Felonica (MN)
Tel. +39 320 26 92 994 =  
Mail. info@itmuseum.it   -   = Skype.marco.orsatti

Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore = 19:32, Mark Peek <mp@freebsd.org> ha scritto:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19=E2=80=AFAM Marco Orsatti = <marco.dmc12@gmail.com>= wrote:
Thanks Kevin for the = info.

I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic = in the VM, I also used this script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove = unnecessary components, but the CPU is still very much in = use.

It's really a strange behavior because = from inside the VM the CPU usage is around 3% while at the same time = from the Host it is at = 240%

Since you're = running in graphics mode you likely have a VNC client running to connect = to it. Try disconnecting the VNC connection and check the bhyve CPU = usage. Screen updates need to be sent over VNC so even little changes = (blinking cursors, clock, etc.) will generate traffic and use = CPU.

Mark

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17.04.25 20:45, Marco Orsatti:
I actually connect to the VM via RDP (from another PC), but when I took the screenshot and looked at the CPU, there is no active connection, neither VNC nor RDP.

I have tested the various editions of Win11, Pro, LTSC, IoT, and they all have the same CPU problem.




Marco Orsatti
direttore
I.T. Museum
Museo dell’evoluzione Informatica

www.itmuseum.it
p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 Felonica (MN)
Tel. +39 320 26 92 994  
Mail. info@itmuseum.it   -   Skype.marco.orsatti

Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore 19:32, Mark Peek <mp@freebsd.org> ha scritto:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19 AM Marco Orsatti <marco.dmc12@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kevin for the info.

I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic in the VM, I also used this script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove unnecessary components, but the CPU is still very much in use.

It's really a strange behavior because from inside the VM the CPU usage is around 3% while at the same time from the Host it is at 240%

Since you're running in graphics mode you likely have a VNC client running to connect to it. Try disconnecting the VNC connection and check the bhyve CPU usage. Screen updates need to be sent over VNC so even little changes (blinking cursors, clock, etc.) will generate traffic and use CPU.

Mark


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I noticed a difference between WIN10 and WIN11, in the boot phase when = it starts to load the system the CPU with WIN11 immediately increases = its use. This makes me think that the problem could be related to the = UEFI. I checked the UEFI options, but I did not see anything that could create = problems for the CPU > Il giorno 18 apr 2025, alle ore 08:24, Oleksandr Kryvulia = ha scritto: >=20 > Try also to change disk0_type=3D"nvme" >=20 > 17.04.25 20:45, Marco Orsatti: >> I actually connect to the VM via RDP (from another PC), but when I = took the screenshot and looked at the CPU, there is no active = connection, neither VNC nor RDP. >>=20 >> I have tested the various editions of Win11, Pro, LTSC, IoT, and they = all have the same CPU problem. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> Marco Orsatti >>> direttore >>> I.T. Museum >>> Museo dell=E2=80=99evoluzione Informatica >>>=20 >>> www.itmuseum.it >>> p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 Felonica (MN) >>> Tel. +39 320 26 92 994 =20 >>> Mail. info@itmuseum.it - = Skype.marco.orsatti >>=20 >>=20 >>> Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore 19:32, Mark Peek = ha scritto: >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:19=E2=80=AFAM Marco Orsatti = > wrote: >>>> Thanks Kevin for the info. >>>>=20 >>>> I checked, but there is no Outlook Classic in the VM, I also used = this script (https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat) to remove = unnecessary components, but the CPU is still very much in use. >>>>=20 >>>> It's really a strange behavior because from inside the VM the CPU = usage is around 3% while at the same time from the Host it is at 240% >>>=20 >>> Since you're running in graphics mode you likely have a VNC client = running to connect to it. Try disconnecting the VNC connection and check = the bhyve CPU usage. Screen updates need to be sent over VNC so even = little changes (blinking cursors, clock, etc.) will generate traffic and = use CPU. >>>=20 >>> Mark >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_AFF365E8-9265-4C83-88CC-498470D7E906 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I tried = with NVMe, but nothing changed.

I noticed a = difference between WIN10 and WIN11, in the boot phase when it starts to = load the system the CPU with WIN11 immediately increases its use. This = makes me think that the problem could be related to the = UEFI.

I checked the UEFI options, but I did not = see anything that could create problems for the CPU



Il giorno 18 apr 2025, alle ore = 08:24, Oleksandr Kryvulia <shuriku@shurik.kiev.ua> ha = scritto:

=20 =20
Try also to change disk0_type=3D"nvme"

17.04.25 20:45, Marco Orsatti:
I actually connect to the VM via RDP (from another PC), but when I took the screenshot and looked at the CPU, there is no active connection, neither VNC nor RDP.

I have tested the various editions of Win11, Pro, LTSC, IoT, and they all have the same CPU problem.




Marco Orsatti
direttore
I.T. Museum
Museo dell=E2=80=99evoluzion= e Informatica

www.itmuseum.it
p.zza Municipio, 15 - 46022 Felonica (MN)
Tel. +39 320 26 92 994  
Mail. info@itmuseum.it   - =   Skype.marco.orsatti

Il giorno 17 apr 2025, alle ore 19:32, Mark Peek <mp@freebsd.org> ha = scritto:




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