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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.24866 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.973]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.68.206:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.68.206:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dlZzs2gz2z3Hn5 To see the setting: Go to: https://admin.gmane.io In the first (left most) box enter freebsd In the next box to the right enter: pkg Select in the box below select: gmane.os.freebsd.devel.pkg freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org (even if there is only one item shown) Looks at the line above "Project URL": it shows "encode" and "encrypt" This leads to text like: QUOTE of examples: bugzilla-noreply-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org pkg-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org Problem reports for pkg-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org that need special attention END QUOTE It is trying to make the text anonymous. The other lists I've looked at are not configured this way. My guess here is that someone officially tied to the FreeBSD organization would need to make any change request for what the status of "encode" should be for any list. Generalizing beyond just freebsd-pkg@ as additional oddities (some of which apply to freebsd-pkg@ as well) . . . Another issue is that almost everything Ive looked at indicates mailman use instead of mlmmj use. But "gmane.os.freebsd.current.scm dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org" indicates "mlmmj+" . (Is the "+" being there incorrect?) ("mailman" leads to emails with instructions for mailman instead being for mlmmj.) "gmane.os.freebsd.architechture freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" is an example were the "Project URL" is empty. There are others, such as for freebsd-arm@freebsd.org . Sometimes the project URL is an old mailman URL for the list. Other times it is more generic for freebsd.org . Some selections list alias lines, such as: "gmane.os.freebsd.devel.cvs.ports dev-commits-ports-all@FreeBSD.org" listing: alias cvs-ports@freebsd.org alias ports-committers@freebsd.org alias svn-ports-all@freebsd.org alias svn-ports-branches@freebsd.org alias cvs-ports@freebsd.org Some aliases tend to be for distinct things, rather than alternate namiing for the same thing. -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com