From nobody Fri Mar 20 09:54:27 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fcdFl03Khz6Vhlb; Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo63.interia.pl (smtpo63.interia.pl [217.74.67.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fcdFk33Fkz3MTs; Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:54:27 +0100 From: vermaden Subject: RE: pkg upgrade with inverting match? 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Hope that helps. Regards, vermaden Temat: Re: pkg upgrade with inverting match? Data: 2026-03-19 16:24 Nadawca: "Kurt Jaeger" Adresat: "Charles Sprickman" ; DW: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org" ; > This is where bugs.freebsd.org waits for > patches and submissions. > > And wiki.freebsd.org pages to update 8-} > > Well, at least, before the Big AI in the Sky > comes to do all this for us 8-} > > -- > pi@FreeBSD.org +49 171 3101372 Now what ? 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(proposal) To: Kurt Jaeger , Charles Sprickman , vermaden Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org References: <59ce425f-77a5-409f-a307-b54541addc90@gmx.com> <78216885-a40b-4247-94f3-0c0fd6cba7bd@gmx.com> <7F6E569A-4027-4B39-A547-63F886BB0D06@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <1779FFB8-03E5-4DE9-B19C-AA7BD53D9C3D@bway.net> Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.25380 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fcrVD6qbkz3Z8s X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On 3/20/26 02:54, vermaden wrote: > Added my proposal for additional pkg(8) aliases here: > - https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/2626 > > In short: > > ``` > % grep -E 'FreeBSD-(p|b)' /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf > upgrade-packages = "upgrade -r FreeBSD-ports -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods"; > upg-pkgs = "upgrade -r FreeBSD-ports -r FreeBSD-ports-kmods"; > upgrade-base = "upgrade -r FreeBSD-base"; > upg-base = "upgrade -r FreeBSD-base"; > ``` > > So now one can: > > # pkg upgrade-packages > > To only upgrade pkg(8) 3rd party packages w/o touching PKGBASE Base System. > > ... and with that: > > # pkg upgrade-base > > To only upgrade PKGBASE Base System and do not mess with 3rd party software. > > Hope that helps. > > > Regards, > vermaden For "pkg upgrade" to work does require that the repo(s) listed to have been enabled. Using something like "-r FreeBSD-base" notation does not implicitly enable the repo, even temporarily. That prevents the update part of overall upgrade sequence if the repo is not enabled already. Unless there is also other activity for such enabling, the above requires that FreeBSD-base , FreeBSD-ports , and FreeBSD-ports-kmods to already be configured as enabled by default in the context. (Something for the man page(s) to note?) There is also the repo variability in naming conventions for those using 14.* and its unofficial pkgbase related status vs. 15.0+ and main that use the new, official repo naming convention (as above). Manual updating such 14.* contexts to use the new naming convention might be appropriate. (More for the man page(s) to note?) (Also: I've checked how recent poudriere(-devel) deals with the naming convention variations or the use of personal repos with yet other names.) > > > > > Temat: Re: pkg upgrade with inverting match? > Data: 2026-03-19 16:24 > Nadawca: "Kurt Jaeger" > Adresat: "Charles Sprickman" ; > DW: "freebsd-stable-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org" ; > >> This is where bugs.freebsd.org waits for >> patches and submissions. >> >> And wiki.freebsd.org pages to update 8-} >> >> Well, at least, before the Big AI in the Sky >> comes to do all this for us 8-} >> >> -- >> pi-HZy0K5TPuP5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org +49 171 3101372 Now what ? > > > -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Sun Mar 22 19:43:58 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ff6F25p2cz6VxX4 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2026 19:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic312-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic312-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.69.205]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ff6Dz6zKnz46jK for ; Sun, 22 Mar 2026 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yahoo.com header.s=s2048 header.b="K/AAzhAd"; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=yahoo.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marklmi@yahoo.com designates 98.137.69.205 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=marklmi@yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1774208640; bh=+mSzwwYNGZoexUucc8zPRR4njq4LLKMoXO7ck6Yd5pw=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:References:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=K/AAzhAd/qCdbDv76qriMZvHfbeBOycxjfiSQRPjt+0R+g9js+0R0cjQ1lO93yjinSyIQA0zAZQOPQYBy6JRz+7fQNm+I0u1/ccQfsEfaW9Av+9BsrI6nFyFw86iYQ0ZA0MyohBAlYfsiOnOskKYi5nbmFAJo1cHoKcX3HyC6dA78IBap8UepD/JQevQFtYicFRBA8858fAjcRcw2Mh1s0fF1nO8vEARsc3eE24BgT0leFKPB8fYUOccbEWPdyMGraDtFxW4cFxBkdNNnuTEVRWAetF2sK9+fhL0/PdvRow3yaMziRXq4Xi4AvZcj1AwsdXFj0grv6FL503pJU9+dQ== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1774208640; bh=3z94Qj+MLgHQRixYP3ZGYcSFlBRvlSomkUFxNBsnXWs=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Date:To:From:Subject:From:Subject; b=nstTFJzl3fA61JFLAyZ8cCG52JO2d6MCdHRexogoFwjfEj3TgCMHNCAMORIPpcyiwySL3fOs61C3s4R25ILKf28sZ9a5pmczKK4x5KyAW9xtt+gtq0XrYFhd0Oqucj/XW0aakkP0C+c0/XWeUO4l3pV9M5iM9aJsnPWGPTnMPc2CYuiX57g3mC81K5UpVT+0BQM8xvk1HYQGv2M6wo2Bqw6CZBGy3G7NhU/5Dx+/Wa/reEFfbHgFDwA769fNAT/IlnQt9FL9hYq5LJZME7B8BAUx/pd3Gylv1dZd56sqDNdvuLDLM9f8m1T/nMm6Uv6jQ1Iyv2tEqbZOdiiDnQHQyw== X-YMail-OSG: vFEEKvUVM1kovS.e9wNh_e6yWs8M_njB32ZPbGF1iw3uA.sebBK.C0WttW86hAB rZSdrBV2RJ6_g0wkWrE5TxrfK.s_hoEiaGE1AktLWOmmNrpshguSJLboXDcLlPV32G4cYw9VVfeI 8ij_XYHl_DIAWddyYbaSNMYFyPKNghW2aGReMKg.Cr0eLeNMQY9A84e13zBgEYNwsNXbBcXOxwq8 owu2aHlxdyjLPILHeHdpp98bw_aDPjz6AF.eNGmguHevOUSz9I86TDUd8iP6JfePX4geazsH.8WY YuPiYLH44BGRh.9BdHQ0Y17CDMa72GSFTf.IENaRCGVmHQGaVXvxnS8cYbk56BV5ZUg.hEey2_HS OiFBQ.yWac3THl6XhYEsmhWry8XX9NUFtGBDxAMzDVZtysHqTyawJqZX7ANvEIK4mbNNECHSH8.S w1JpJUDnEj7wjwvN8arLSsOQa8imSAj0h.98mIXjOp9Ba6M3MOx2qgMcuqg25CpVng9yWhovXd0E aOIvyYguEgPNeUCTwQn.hx9SvDSpQ67hDol8T5svozo5ic3c8K3YP7qvNavL9kC.mWIoyyB98rT_ w3A8qXDme5fIpD4GUgFtNTXIJCikk7vZL70YM3ZoulflSaLd9G9nK4RVgvP9FzplOjoo8DZ2RFkt pZBeEh7ke.7zVkujGLGWULUCDNR7q96rNuG5mbmOomxsmOO6dOFHGvGILVRq9tvdTSxxzyv4VvyR oJFnabVDraP2yEW6thUrr.sjKhZ3yXfCwXfJg.UYnmMaxGfLHNBhceE.kLgeYSU2b8gjFQQ5LbzD dT.xpkZZGKNMO2VPfNKD47WvKpY4c4IF88eWozlszTnaFaeJtpOZkJweZwG1.0.qrChm7HuHuPL. 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