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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID a6e1981acfc16b72097b66e5eb0fd970; Wed, 20 May 2026 14:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 07:05:42 -0700 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: only .pkgnew and only for user-touched files To: Anthony Pankov , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <838056711.20260520130025.ref@yahoo.com> <838056711.20260520130025@yahoo.com> Content-Language: en-US Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <838056711.20260520130025@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.25725 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gLCxW2BlRz3X0v X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 5/20/26 03:00, Anthony Pankov wrote: > Hello, > > after upgrading minor upgrade with pkgbase I found many .pkgsave files such as: > .. > /etc/rc.d/noshutdown.pkgsave > /etc/rc.d/mountd.pkgsave > /etc/rc.d/FILESYSTEMS.pkgsave > /etc/rc.d/zfs.pkgsave > ... > > with changes that do not bothers me: > > diff /etc/rc.d/noshutdown.pkgsave /etc/rc.d/noshutdown > 6c6 > < # REQUIRE: var > --- >> # REQUIRE: FILESYSTEMS > ----- > > Is it possible during pkgbase upgrade to follow the next logic: > > IF configuration/script file is not modified (== identical to what was installed by package) then silently replace it with new file > ELSE just save new file as .pkgnew (do not touch existing) and print a note. > > Is there already any switches for pkg to do this? > > I ask because sshd_config was replaced and server control lost. But master.passwd was keeped. I'm not complaining just missing single logic. > My impression was that: ) pkg install is what generates pkg.save files, installing those new files ) pkg upgrade is what generates pkg.new files, not installing those new files (At least when files are not auto merged?) I'm not sure that the documentation is explicit about when each is used. -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Fri May 22 06:14:24 2026 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gMFNr2Csyz6dsZ5 for ; Fri, 22 May 2026 06:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sugondo@hlrs.de) Received: from mgw.hlrs.de (mgw.hlrs.de [141.58.2.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gMFNp6Bgqz46SC for ; Fri, 22 May 2026 06:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sugondo@hlrs.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=hlrs.de header.s=mgw25 header.b="rP/jQTpa"; dkim=pass header.d=hlrs.de header.s=5D1F534E-D3E0-11EF-98C4-3E94437CB890 header.b=DvXf48Jy; dmarc=none; 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 57ec4219f6569daf1396aa75047c2286; Fri, 22 May 2026 16:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <887f0791-8acf-4577-9a52-23b8dc4d57df@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 09:15:45 -0700 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: ERROR 403: Forbidden for base_release_0 and 1 To: Colin Percival , daniel.sugondo@hlrs.de, pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <0100019e4e6ab8f5-a1616d46-6a9f-4891-80e4-4898c23e2235-000000@email.amazonses.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <0100019e4e6ab8f5-a1616d46-6a9f-4891-80e4-4898c23e2235-000000@email.amazonses.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.25725 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gMVkg3kJfz3mkg X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 5/21/26 23:41, Colin Percival wrote: > On 5/21/26 23:14, Daniel Haryo Sugondo wrote: >> the base_release_0 and base_release_1 aren't accessible. >> [...] >> >> Should it be so? > The raw directories aren't accessible.  But the files are there, e.g. >   https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_release_0/meta.conf > should load just fine. > So one needs to already know the file names and to list them all explicitly? 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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Feedback-ID: ::1.us-east-1.Lv9FVjaNvvR5llaqfLoOVbo2VxOELl7cjN0AOyXnPlk=:AmazonSES X-SES-Outgoing: 2026.05.22-54.240.8.13 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:54.240.8.0/21, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gMXVZ00K7z46NL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 5/22/26 09:15, Mark Millard wrote: > On 5/21/26 23:41, Colin Percival wrote: >> On 5/21/26 23:14, Daniel Haryo Sugondo wrote: >>> the base_release_0 and base_release_1 aren't accessible. >>> [...] >>> >>> Should it be so? >> The raw directories aren't accessible.  But the files are there, e.g. >>   https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_release_0/meta.conf >> should load just fine. >> > > So one needs to already know the file names and to list them all explicitly? > > Is there an appropriate, systematic way to discover all the file names > and then list them all? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 5be9459d2348445d83536cd0bbc5bcb7; Fri, 22 May 2026 18:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 11:05:45 -0700 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: ERROR 403: Forbidden for base_release_0 and 1 To: Colin Percival , daniel.sugondo@hlrs.de, pkgbase@freebsd.org References: <0100019e4e6ab8f5-a1616d46-6a9f-4891-80e4-4898c23e2235-000000@email.amazonses.com> <887f0791-8acf-4577-9a52-23b8dc4d57df@yahoo.com> <0100019e50c1b598-883dd9e1-cf40-4f35-bbac-f2a40cb9cbb1-000000@email.amazonses.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <0100019e50c1b598-883dd9e1-cf40-4f35-bbac-f2a40cb9cbb1-000000@email.amazonses.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.25725 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gMY9Y64NQz3C8M X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 5/22/26 10:35, Colin Percival wrote: > On 5/22/26 09:15, Mark Millard wrote: >> On 5/21/26 23:41, Colin Percival wrote: >>> On 5/21/26 23:14, Daniel Haryo Sugondo wrote: >>>> the base_release_0 and base_release_1 aren't accessible. >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> Should it be so? >>> The raw directories aren't accessible.  But the files are there, e.g. >>>    https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_release_0/meta.conf >>> should load just fine. >>> >> >> So one needs to already know the file names and to list them all >> explicitly? >> >> Is there an appropriate, systematic way to discover all the file names >> and then list them all? > The pkg tool can fetch packages. > > Making a directory listing available would just be begging LLM scrapers to > waste our bandwidth. > If that is why for 15.0-* and 15.1-* (non-armv7), then why are the non-15.*'s exposed? For example: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:14:aarch64/base_release_0/ shows the list of *.pkg files. Other than 15.* (non-armv7), all the https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:*:*/base_*/ show each pkg (and more). 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0a87870d0fe5a9027a4b1933deca04a1; Fri, 22 May 2026 18:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 11:26:41 -0700 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: ERROR 403: Forbidden for base_release_0 and 1 To: daniel.sugondo@hlrs.de, pkgbase@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.25725 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gMYdl2MyZz3GFZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 5/21/26 23:14, Daniel Haryo Sugondo wrote: > Dear pkgbase maintainer, > > the base_release_0 and base_release_1 aren't accessible. > > Yesterday > $ wget https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_release_0 . . . > 2600:9000:2013:d000:14:fc66:e9c0:93a1|:443... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden > 2026-05-21 14:59:55 ERROR 403: Forbidden. > > Today > $ date > Fri May 22 08:08:10 AM CEST 2026 > $ wget https://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:15:amd64/base_release_0 > . . . > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden > 2026-05-22 08:08:13 ERROR 403: Forbidden. > > Should it be so? > > Regards, > > Daniel Sugondo. > For official pkgbase releases, there are the likes of: (Also: CHECKSUM.SHA* files.) So, the suggestive pattern: gives an idea where to get tar files that would contain the *.pkg files (and likely more). There are also snapshots in pkgbase form for 15.* and main [so: 16 as stands], such as: (Also: CHECKSUM.SHA* files.) Suggestive pattern: Note: 15.0 does not look to have any snapshots. But there being only one active 15.*-STABLE for stable/15 makes sense. 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To: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[google.com:s=arc-20240605:i=1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[asomers]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.48:from]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.48:from] X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gMj696zW7z41PQ I'd like to snapshot my repo directories after I build each batch of packages. But by default, REPODIR is defined as ${OBJROOT}repo . That puts it adjacent to the amd64.amd64 directory, which contains object files. So even if I make /usr/obj be its own dataset, I'll still be wasting lots of storage space snapshotting frequently-changing object files. To forestall that problem, I can define REPODIR somewhere else in /etc/src-env.conf , for example, /usr/repos. But if I have two worktrees, one for releng/15.0 and one for releng/15.1, then both worktrees' repos will live in the same path. So I can't have separate package directories for each minor OS release. How can I defined REPODIR in a way that allows me to separate my packages from my objects, and also keep multiple worktrees? Another problem is that when you do "make update-packages", even if a package doesn't change it gets copied to a new file. Probably the "cp" in Makefile.inc1 in real-update-packages can be replaced by "ln", but I haven't tested that. 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[212.227.15.18:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmx.at]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmx.at:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmx.at]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gND2J2525z3W6W Hi list, Is there a configuration option I have overseen that creates a boot=20 environment automatically should a pkg of FreeBSD-base be upgraded? I'd=20 like to have it the same way as freebsd-update ... (I am fully aware=20 that I can create a boot environment any time) thanks and regards Robert From nobody Sat May 23 21:09:29 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gNFC62pflz6dqyL for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@montesse.ca) Received: from foxtrot.brtsvcs.net (foxtrot.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:f740:14::c13]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gNFC55mRlz3Z79 for ; Sat, 23 May 2026 21:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists@montesse.ca) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (chombo [65.100.43.2]) by foxtrot.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B5E011C100; Sat, 23 May 2026 21:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.26.25.201] (unknown [10.26.25.201]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFF674017; Sat, 23 May 2026 14:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <81dab1b2-dd0e-911d-36e8-7e46dfa6f4a4@montesse.ca> Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 14:09:29 -0700 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: boot environments To: infoomatic , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Jordan Montesse In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:2607:f740:14::/48, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gNFC55mRlz3Z79 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 2026-05-23 13:16, infoomatic wrote: > Is there a configuration option I have overseen that creates a boot > environment automatically should a pkg of FreeBSD-base be upgraded? I'd > like to have it the same way as freebsd-update ... (I am fully aware > that I can create a boot environment any time) No, pkg lacks BE integration like freebsd-update has. You'll need to run the `bectl create ...` pre-upgrade command yourself. 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Sat, 23 May 2026 14:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 21:25:08 +0000 From: Shawn Webb To: Jordan Montesse Cc: infoomatic , freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot environments Message-ID: <3g4zowxsj2smesox346uae6xdrblnyeuloffjj2lrt65birglx@hkmdoozybaz5> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 15.0-STABLE-HBSD FreeBSD 15.0-STABLE-HBSD HARDENEDBSD amd64 X-PGP-Key: https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/blob/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc References: <81dab1b2-dd0e-911d-36e8-7e46dfa6f4a4@montesse.ca> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="65xfqf3gtwfr3txr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <81dab1b2-dd0e-911d-36e8-7e46dfa6f4a4@montesse.ca> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; 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I'd > > like to have it the same way as freebsd-update ... (I am fully aware > > that I can create a boot environment any time) >=20 > No, pkg lacks BE integration like freebsd-update has. You'll need to run > the `bectl create ...` pre-upgrade command yourself. I could've sworn there was a third-party module for pkg that implemented boot environment supported, but I can't seem to locate it. I might be confusing myself with the jail module, but perhaps someone else knows of a boot environment module. If one doesn't exist, I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to implement for someone sufficiently motivated. 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