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Sat, 20 Jun 2026 17:49:38 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 296168] pkg fetch -d fails to download pkgbase dependencies Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 17:49:38 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: new X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Package Infrastructure X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: jlduran@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_id short_desc product version rep_platform op_sys bug_status bug_severity priority component assigned_to reporter Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D296168 Bug ID: 296168 Summary: pkg fetch -d fails to download pkgbase dependencies Product: Ports & Packages Version: Latest Hardware: Any OS: Any Status: New Severity: Affects Only Me Priority: --- Component: Package Infrastructure Assignee: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Reporter: jlduran@FreeBSD.org Let's fetch the FreeBSD-ssh package into /tmp/foo: # mkdir /tmp/foo # tar cf - /usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted | tar xvf - -C /tmp/foo tar: Removing leading '/' from member names x usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/ x usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301 # pkg -r /tmp/foo fetch -d -r FreeBSD-base -y FreeBSD-ssh ... The following packages will be fetched: New packages to be FETCHED: FreeBSD-ssh: 16.snap20260619222841 (947 KiB: 100.00% of the 947 KiB= to download) Number of packages to be fetched: 1 ... The list of packages is incomplete compared with install, for example: # pkg -r /tmp/foo install -r FreeBSD-base -y FreeBSD-ssh ... The following 17 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: FreeBSD-audit-lib: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-blocklist-lib: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-bzip2-lib: 16.snap20260604235624 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-clibs: 16.snap20260620003812 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-kerberos-lib: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-libarchive: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-libcasper: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-libldns: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-ncurses-lib: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-openssl-lib: 16.snap20260620003812 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-pam-lib: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-runtime: 16.snap20260620003812 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-ssh: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-tcpd: 16.snap20260620003812 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-xz-lib: 16.snap20260619222841 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-zlib: 16.snap20260604235624 [FreeBSD-base] FreeBSD-zstd-lib: 16.snap20260610184705 [FreeBSD-base] Number of packages to be installed: 17 ... As a workaround, we can use pkg install -F. 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For starters, I downloaded and installed the memstick image of 15.1 AMD64. So that is what I am working with here. OK, under the prior environment when I wanted to update from, say, p5 to p6 of the current installed version (e.g., 14.3 p5 to 14.3 p6), I had a script that ran ... /usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch then, after a yes/no prompt ... /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install then, when that completed the script ran ... InstalledKernelVersion=$( /bin/freebsd-version -k ) RunningKernelVersion=$( /bin/freebsd-version -r ) InstalledUserLandVersion=$( /bin/freebsd-version -u ) echo "Running kernel: ${RunningKernelVersion}" echo "Installed kernel: ${InstalledKernelVersion}" echo "Installed userland: ${InstalledUserLandVersion}" and based upon that, I knew whether or not I needed to reboot. It was fairly simple. I just ran the script. No config file changes needed. Now, as I understand the pkgbase system, it has gotten a bit more complex. I no longer see that easy ability to update from one patch level to the current patch level within the installed version. As I read... https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase I see examples of "Minor version upgrades." But no examples of updating from one patch level to a subsequent patch level within a version. Is there a FreeBSD wiki article I have missed? thx. 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Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:41:32 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 296168] pkg fetch -d fails to download pkgbase dependencies Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:41:33 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Package Infrastructure X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: marklmi26-fbsd@yahoo.com X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D296168 Mark Millard changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marklmi26-fbsd@yahoo.com --- Comment #1 from Mark Millard --- (In reply to Jose Luis Duran from comment #0) For reference (not that my context is a time match): # pkg info -d FreeBSD-ssh | sort FreeBSD-audit-lib-16.snap20260529181012 (libbsm.so.3) FreeBSD-blocklist-lib-16.snap20260529181012 (libblocklist.so.0) FreeBSD-clibs-16.snap20260610184705 (libc.so.7) FreeBSD-kerberos-lib-16.snap20260610184705 (libgssapi_krb5.so.122) FreeBSD-kerberos-lib-16.snap20260610184705 (libkrb5.so.122) FreeBSD-libldns-16.snap20260610184705 (libprivateldns.so.5) FreeBSD-openssl-lib-16.snap20260612060339 (libcrypto.so.35) FreeBSD-pam-lib-16.snap20260607215030 (libpam.so.6) FreeBSD-runtime-16.snap20260611020731 (libcrypt.so.5) FreeBSD-runtime-16.snap20260611020731 (libedit.so.8) FreeBSD-runtime-16.snap20260611020731 (libutil.so.10) FreeBSD-tcpd-16.snap20260607215030 (libwrap.so.6) FreeBSD-zlib-16.snap20260604235624 (libz.so.6) So: no FreeBSD-bzip2-lib , FreeBSD-libarchive , FreeBSD-libcasper , FreeBSD-pam-lib , FreeBSD-tcpd , FreeBSD-xz-lib , FreeBSD-zstd-lib . (Although, the documentation is not explicit about if the -d produces the full transitive closure of dependencies vs. not. So, may be those missing ones are just more indirect.) man pkg-fetch is not explicit about if dependencies already present are (re)downloaded vs. not. 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To: Mike , freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.26016 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gjX174wjvz3LMD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On 6/20/26 16:25, Mike wrote: > > I have a couple of questions as I run a test environment ... > > For starters, I downloaded and installed the memstick image of 15.1 > AMD64.  So that is what I am working with here. > > OK, under the prior environment when I wanted to update from, say, p5 to > p6 of the current installed version (e.g., 14.3 p5 to 14.3 p6), I had a > script that ran ... > >     /usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch > > then, after a yes/no prompt ... > >     /usr/sbin/freebsd-update install > > then, when that completed the script ran ... > >     InstalledKernelVersion=$( /bin/freebsd-version -k ) >     RunningKernelVersion=$( /bin/freebsd-version -r ) >     InstalledUserLandVersion=$( /bin/freebsd-version -u ) > >     echo "Running kernel:     ${RunningKernelVersion}" >     echo "Installed kernel:   ${InstalledKernelVersion}" >     echo "Installed userland: ${InstalledUserLandVersion}" > > and based upon that, I knew whether or not I needed to reboot. Well, if you do not reboot, the live system processes would still be based on the old userland files --if any of those were updated. The old kernel would also be running. > > It was fairly simple.  I just ran the script.  No config file changes > needed. I expect that, while rare, needing to touch a configuration file is still a possibility for a patch release. > > > Now, as I understand the pkgbase system, it has gotten a bit more complex. > > I no longer see that easy ability to update from one patch level to the > current patch level within the installed version. > > As I read... > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase > > I see examples of "Minor version upgrades."  But no examples of updating > from one patch level to a subsequent patch level within a version. > > Is there a FreeBSD wiki article I have missed? > > thx. > > > > Presuming that the updates have updated in what is accessed by, say,: then: # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base or: # pkg-static upgrade -r FreeBSD-base is a way intended for much of the activity. It will prompt unless you supply specific command line options to avoid such. The command may leave behind *.pkgnew files that should be considered for merging or replacing the older file (the * part of the name). Any *.pkgsave files are the other way around: a new file was put in place and the old one has the new, longer name for consideration of merging content. (Technically an upgrade can cause an install of something new. Not likely for patch releases.) pkgbase is not following the "kernel then reboot then world then reboot" sort of protocol so far. A manual reboot afterwards is probably appropriate unless you know that no file used by the live system was updated. The closest I know of for figuring out ahead of time if the update is available is to use: https://people.freebsd.org/~dbaio/pkg-master-report.html looking for, say, freebsd:15:x86:64 with base_release_1 and seeing what its Timestamp and Elapsed time are if it is 100% Synced with Sync present for that context. This can get into judging time relationships that are not obvious. Otherwise just try the command and see what it reports. -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com From nobody Sun Jun 21 00:42:25 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gjXbn30Q7z6hyKG for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2026 00:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mgm51.net (oneyou.mgm51.net [174.136.99.202]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "oneyou.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gjXbm4jw5z3Nxb for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2026 00:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mgm51.com header.s=mgm51.com-10 header.b=HaCSAqow; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mgm51.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of the.lists@mgm51.com designates 174.136.99.202 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=the.lists@mgm51.com Received: from sentry.mgm51.net (sentry.mgm51.net [IPv6:2001:558:6017:e3:1130:5cc5:3dee:2458]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384 client-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) client-digest SHA384) (Client CN "sentry.mgm51.net", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gjXbk5qrtzHh0G for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2026 20:42:26 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgm51.com; s=mgm51.com-10; t=1782002546; bh=QX5YaIor9ViiopyZyuFmtoO5ICw0oNLcYB/cMMh50jg=; h=Date:Subject:From; b=HaCSAqow7nF0F2gTai8doP5SefJVGAtYyRbLDR2QR3ATtO9hGwYs8FuwJuSRhoRHe wKrdT8lvawHeQ2jmVC6VUG9AALZyo6ty0neqtph/X2EkxKmLrFAmRKywsfvUBd26gu 7D32busS/PZ3AjiZf1PRPzTg8uNR/cL7N2LgpJO6yzsioo+u1DUICY/HC7NprHH5HK +bsqNDbA1XdedsSXcFqznEqUR6yGaj7oawItb4HCtNzLw+G8nbmWzPXVUKXKnMwDFb t4zFJ6nP8GPxeREAO5VvbQJ6x+WqhoNDxBKroVXnTscsAqbSIY/JEgTgKuMzku3+Al Ya50cE9SFhdZw== Received: from [10.11.2.100] (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.11.2.100]) by sentry.mgm51.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gjXbj54K9zRcq3 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2026 20:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <07752971-ba18-41f9-989b-ccdb88384a4c@mgm51.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2026 20:42:25 -0400 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Moving to pkg-based in 15.1 ... To: freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Mike In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.66 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[mgm51.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[mgm51.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[174.136.99.202:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:174.136.99.202:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mgm51.com:s=mgm51.com-10]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:174.136.96.0/20, country:US]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mgm51.com:+] X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gjXbm4jw5z3Nxb On 6/20/2026 8:15 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > I expect that, while rare, needing to touch a configuration file is > still a possibility for a patch release. I have yet to see on the FreeBSD wiki a way to essentially duplicate the simplicity of my prior script (sans config file changes) to update within a current release level. That prior script ~just worked.~ For years ... Indeed, your comment illustrates the new complexity that seems to have been introduced to a prior quite simple process. 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In-Reply-To: (Mike's message of "Sat, 20 Jun 2026 19:25:02 -0400") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2026 16:01:11 +0200 Message-ID: <86a4sot2l4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike writes: > Now, as I understand the pkgbase system, it has gotten a bit more > complex. On the contrary... > I no longer see that easy ability to update from one patch level to > the current patch level within the installed version. To upgrade a pkgbase system, simply run: # pkg upgrade or, if you want to upgrade _only_ the base system and leave the rest untouched: # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base This essentially replaces `freebsd-update fetch` and `freebsd-update install` in your script, including the intervening prompt, and the rest will work as before. If you want to get fancy, do: # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base -Fy to download updated packagtes without installing them, then # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base to prompt the user and install the downloaded packages. This will also avoid a rare situation (very unlikely to occur with pkgbase on a release branch) where pkg computes an upgrade plan, prompts the user, then computes a different plan after examining the packages it downloaded and prompts the user a second time. A reboot is always recommended, unless you know exactly what was updated and can manually restart all affected services (or you know that none of the services that you run are affected). That was always the case. > https://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgBase This is severely out of date and (like most of the wiki) was always more of an internal roadmap than any sort of user documentation. 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User-Agent: Thunderbird for Android In-Reply-To: <86a4sot2l4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> References: <86a4sot2l4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> Message-ID: <439B3749-A366-446E-B54C-3E4098F4CE72@pizarro.net> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----VENH4CQ2S6KYJ5ZG0Y6ZMN95F5FB66 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.48 / 15.00]; FORGED_MUA_THUNDERBIRD_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[pizarro.net,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pizarro.net:s=dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:1c1b:1324::1]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/32, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_HELO_LOCALHOST(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pizarro.net:+] X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gjvQk1141z40jj ------VENH4CQ2S6KYJ5ZG0Y6ZMN95F5FB66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed, it has never been that simple and robust=2E You can also follow thi= s guide: https://www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/releases/15=2E1R/installation/#upgrade-pkg On 21 June 2026 16:01:11 CEST, "Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav" wrote: >Mike writes: >> Now, as I understand the pkgbase system, it has gotten a bit more >> complex=2E > >On the contrary=2E=2E=2E > >> I no longer see that easy ability to update from one patch level to >> the current patch level within the installed version=2E > >To upgrade a pkgbase system, simply run: > > # pkg upgrade > >or, if you want to upgrade _only_ the base system and leave the rest >untouched: > > # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base > >This essentially replaces `freebsd-update fetch` and `freebsd-update >install` in your script, including the intervening prompt, and the rest >will work as before=2E If you want to get fancy, do: > > # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base -Fy > >to download updated packagtes without installing them, then > > # pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base > >to prompt the user and install the downloaded packages=2E This will also >avoid a rare situation (very unlikely to occur with pkgbase on a release >branch) where pkg computes an upgrade plan, prompts the user, then >computes a different plan after examining the packages it downloaded and >prompts the user a second time=2E > >A reboot is always recommended, unless you know exactly what was updated >and can manually restart all affected services (or you know that none of >the services that you run are affected)=2E That was always the case=2E > >> https://wiki=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/PkgBase > >This is severely out of date and (like most of the wiki) was always more >of an internal roadmap than any sort of user documentation=2E > >DES >--=20 >Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD=2Eorg > ------VENH4CQ2S6KYJ5ZG0Y6ZMN95F5FB66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Indeed, it has never been that s= imple and robust=2E You can also follow this guide:

https://= www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/releases/15=2E1R/installation/#upgrade-pkg


On 21 June 2026 16:01= :11 CEST, "Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav" <des@FreeBSD=2Eorg> wrote:
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Mike <the=2Elists@mgm51=2Ecom> writes:
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This is severely out of date and (like most of the w= iki) was always more
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------VENH4CQ2S6KYJ5ZG0Y6ZMN95F5FB66-- From nobody Sun Jun 21 17:36:02 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gjz5K00mjz6hQDY for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2026 17:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "YR1" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gjz5J4Qnwz3NZn; Sun, 21 Jun 2026 17:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1782063364; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=B3ji9+l2q0no58Fzlrtir5G6BIgH2rAUgSraInGYU9Q=; b=oqAWcS6wwJOO+WPKrRRHcnnOB0QyAjldOt51E1kBP2PtQWtZ6XDUT+RP1pX7vWBayWOiUA apLok0tHTbgnyCKJFwuSYuD04IAoFDsVVCFDdQd1h4/ISEz6Glwz0T8Jau1BIoS3DFZ9ak RvnRUaKaXJYTGti4SVXzoX6NrATZBDxa8UHpv7WmscC1nMLoYPN+s+zIwes2Nu/T4ecq0R SNcR8XVPJieuBqryLY2X5WtQE6Wv+7PpKoyUUeaPCv8yKrSFdTb0eXa7I5Lafil7f/vbzp Iy+8hO3DTihMqoNq8v4uaKKxMqcxrXVQ0fjjANzZpzBfUCBt2IzxeVDXASkvFw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1782063364; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rt/rvZQoTCqyCV143VRFMdIQOfvRULl01qBqqA0mfAyeoG2ZRz26yRIl01kPMV0YNQXju9 c243iet3oaWyk8m89m0t32zhMkS6EcCLhGC+sHWktGGnr+o9gyPjbl8ka+EYFoa9bUgi6p /gMPXhHc/rjfgKskMVY1aB/7A2TJK83YlOiZoPxioXq4gNsmAx7BImC9hmkCP2mFOf1O8X TdHdp357pReKyAl8GTcQCz2schguewDuDpJO4rBHGVyGmKmKjoU76ldXySXDhmHMOhuFiI IWTICmKAJs3nOGbMu5fu+BnYNQ3qhZ2FRFrbHowvnjr4Bo3Ef/mwBj3HYFDN0A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1782063364; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=B3ji9+l2q0no58Fzlrtir5G6BIgH2rAUgSraInGYU9Q=; b=U3W+WAun3K5Z/mGgQmy3UvS1DyWaHQa2kJyyEBKMs7/yeSsH1QWgxC69xGWi84yPurejSp ur4j6UF/XD8dmM6DIKDh4vVRouiNk6ORlF7HfGBt4uYhsvYn7N8jsbSuBM3/CD1tPHWICI JLLOn9vZxZwKjJlbJpDUZPr8+H3srryYZwmQGun9WfF9+h7HAjCbFoRN8auI2aJjv5eWgY e7ynvFuUdkZrr0tAA7/Rurg5e+sfMQhKTMBA6Vt4dfo/jw731y3Yv1JxFRqq+08vnrEs90 aM89aNXInHq+vwXCwBg2u1I2qbp3FaRXpUh+bW+HbJBA4VoH5Hc4d6c5Rgzehg== Received: from ltc.des.dev (2a01cb0585070b0036e894fffeca9834.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr [IPv6:2a01:cb05:8507:b00:36e8:94ff:feca:9834]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4gjz5J2V1mz12xr; Sun, 21 Jun 2026 17:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D01345078E; Sun, 21 Jun 2026 19:36:02 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Matias Pizarro Cc: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving to pkg-based in 15.1 ... In-Reply-To: <439B3749-A366-446E-B54C-3E4098F4CE72@pizarro.net> (Matias Pizarro's message of "Sun, 21 Jun 2026 16:50:41 +0200") References: <86a4sot2l4.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <439B3749-A366-446E-B54C-3E4098F4CE72@pizarro.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2026 19:36:02 +0200 Message-ID: <86y0g7ssn1.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matias Pizarro writes: > Indeed, it has never been that simple and robust. You can also follow thi= s guide: > > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.1R/installation/#upgrade-pkg No, that guide documents how to upgrade from 14.4 or 15.0 to 15.1, which is not what Mike asked for. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org